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October 4, 2024 15 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the nationwide Verizon service disruption AND the Dish/DirecTV merger on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest contributor; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Of course it's tech Thursday, so that means Marcia Calier
joins us.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Marsha, how you doing this evening?

Speaker 4 (00:13):
I'm just doing great, you know.

Speaker 5 (00:15):
And Mo, I have to tell you your listeners are
so loyal. I actually got fan mail after last week's show.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Look, there's nothing wrong with that fan mail, hate mail.
As long as they keep on listening, that's all I want.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
That's right. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
You remember earlier this week, I want to say it
was Monday, at the beginning of the week, you had
that huge Verizon outage. Customers across the US reported problems
accessing the company's wireless network. I assume it was a
hack or data breach of some sort.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Look, we can always speculate.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
But what do we know. There's a problem with that.
It's a real problem. Tens of thousands of people in
the area. I mean from Chicago, Indianapolis, all the way
down to Phoenix, Nebraska, Omaha, they did not have service.
These are the people who need service. And sos appeared

(01:10):
in the status bars of iPhones if the device is
not connected to a cellular network, So and supposedly it
can still make calls, but no, not on the Verizon network.
I think this points out that we need an alternate
mode of talking to people of getting help.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
What about the idea of like an emergency backup system
which is used for situations just like this, where it
may not accommodate anything as far as Internet, but it
will accommodate people making calls for the purpose of an emergency.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I mean, this is a thing week as Hurricane Helene.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
This is disaster. This is a complete disaster.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
One of the things that I do, and it's important
to me, is I keep an older phone. I have
it connected to Wi Fi and I can text. I
can make calls through WhatsApp, which is an excellent, excellent app,
or Google Voice. What do you use any alternates?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, I use Google Voice, and like you, I have
backup phones plural that hook up to any Wi Fi.
And for those who don't know, text messages take up
less bandwidth. It's easier for those to slip through in
an emergency situation. Remember we discussed this last week about
what to do if you're stranded in some remote area. Well,

(02:36):
people are now stranded in their own houses seemingly.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Have you ever been in a hurricane?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
No, that's why I live in California. I actually talked
about that on the show last Friday. I said, you know,
with great respect to the people who are dealing with
the hurricane. Part of the reason why I never moved
from California is there are certain things I did want
to deal with. I did want to deal with in
clement weather. I did not want to deal with tornadoes.
I did not want to deal with hurricanes. Yes, earthquakes

(03:02):
are a great unknown, but fewer people dying them comparatively
speaking than any other natural emergency.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
I mean, I felt so horrible for the people. Their
houses were in sticks. Literally, Yes, it was horrible. I
grew up on Miami Beach, so I know a lot
about hurricanes, and all of Miami Beach would flood. I
worked at the Miami Herald, and it would be flooded
up to three blocks away from the newspaper. And when

(03:32):
your car gave up the ghost, it couldn't drive any deeper.
You would just get out of your car, slog through
the wet and in the lobby of the Miami Herald,
John Knight had a setup with screens in the whole
thing and extra pressman's jumpsuits so you'd get to change
clothes when you got to work.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It was.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
And we were the lucky ones because newspapers have to
come out every day, right, But everywhere else. I also
remember flooding in my neighborhood, and when the eye of
the hurricane went over, the streets were filled with flopping fish,
and of course people were coming outside with the frying
pans getting well.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I was always aware of the fact that alligators are
everywhere in Florida, and when you have that massive flooding,
that means the alligators are going everywhere as well, so
the water can be very dangerous.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Oh yeah, but you know, I never saw an alligator
in Miami Beach, But then that that's Miami Beach. It's
kind of we don't let alligators on Miami Beach. There
are a cross on the city side in the lagoons.
But you know, this is a terrifying thing. And the
thing is the news always whoops it up worse than

(04:51):
it could possibly be and totally terrifies people.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
The only problem with that is, with all due respect,
we also know they can be very dangerous after the hurricane.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Absolutely, and they can't prepare for having their house blown over, right,
they can't prepare for their roof being blown off and
the entire house saturated with rainstorm. I've known people who's
had to replace carpeting and god knows what in their house.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
It's a horrible thing.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
But earthquakes, we kind of get a little beep on
the phone.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Now we doshas yeah, a whole three seconds of notice.
But going back to the story, this highlights how important
and essential our phone communication can be for moments just
like these.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Well, I think most importantly is like you said, have
a backup. Absolutely, have a backup. I mean in our
emergency kit with the earthquake, because I had such a
horrible time in the north Ridge earthquake. I even have
a radio where you can broadcast. So you have to

(05:57):
have these things. We need to make our homes emergency safe.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
We just have to going back to the Verizon down
period and again we'll get more information, I'm sure regardless
of whatever the first report is, we'll get more information
in the coming weeks about what happened, why, how extensive.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
But my question to you, Marcia.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Carlier, is does this signify that our infrastructure is exceptionally
vulnerable and fragile or is it something else?

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Well, just think about our electricity I mean, honestly, not
DWP and Los Angeles, but the other one further north
of us. They've been having outages on and off and
on and off. That's not just fragile, that's a fail.
And for how many years have we been paying taxes

(06:49):
to rebuild our infrastructure? I mean it always says that,
you know and like our problems with the schools. Oh yeah,
a lot of used to feed the schools. Uh huh
where does all that money go?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh you're waiting for me to answer, because I couldn't
tell you.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
All I know is that more money has been pumped
in and less output and less reliability in.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Response, which is why we as citizens need to be
unfortunately more responsible for our own safety, just like buying
new tires on a car.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
The takeaway is make sure you have backup devices, you
have your emergency kits, that you are prepared for any
eventuality as best you can, because you don't know when
disaster might strike, even if they tell you that it's
coming in the form of a hurricane or some sort
of major storm in the next week. When we come back,

(07:45):
let's get into this merger of Direct TV and Dish.
When this story broke also earlier this week, it blew
my mind because once again.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You think that you have a choice, but you really don't.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's all, yeah, I have Dish, TIEV so and so,
now you have Direct TV as well. Yeah, it's Later
with Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
It's Later with Mo Kelly and Marshall Callier. We're both
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And you know by
now a huge, huge telecom deal came down DirecTV Dish,
I would say, two of the preeminent cable providers in
the country are now coming together to form one super
telecommunications company. What it means for you, what it means

(08:37):
for me, It remains to be seen because even if
you have a streaming platform, most likely they are a
subsidiary of one of these cable giants. Marshall Callier, when
the news came down for you and you saw it
back on Monday, what first came.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
To mind, Well, first of all, I have Dish. I
like Dish.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
The only reason I keep Dish is because their technology
is really good, believe it or not. But more and
more people, you know, we have broken the cable and
we have a lot of over the air content at
our house. But this is something that is a big
deal because remember DirecTV is owned by EchoStar. Now, EchoStar

(09:24):
is worth a lot of money, and they have thirty
billion dollars in wireless spectrum investments, and then that means
they went at one time to an FCC auction. The
Federal Communication System auctions off segments of the spectrum for

(09:45):
people to use so you could start your own phone company.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
They own that.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
So I'm seeing maybe EchoStar will be the new wireless
carrier for a lot of people, or maybe they'll specialize
in something. But if you think about a lot of
the other networks, Comcast only has thirteen point two million
video subscribers, that's not a lot. You know, DirecTV has

(10:12):
about eleven million, so and Dish TV has eight point
one million. The only thing is it's subject to the
government's passing this, and I don't see why they wouldn't
because I think everybody deserves it. Direct TV and Dish
also are including Sling TV. That's me in the there

(10:35):
you go. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, yes, Sling originally is a division of Dish,
and so I was wondering if we were going to
be folded in.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
So yes, we are bingo.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Now, supposedly this is going to happen in the second
half of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Here's the question, and most likely the deal will go through.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
But we do know the federal government, at least this
administration has been more strict than others when it comes
to at least perceived antitrust monopoly mergers. They've broken up
a few, they've prevented a few. So I'm not going
to say that there's a foregone conclusion.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
You were saying, though, well, these are the only satellite providers.
I think that's the difference. Now you've got Starlink. If
elln ever decided to bounce TV off of Starlink, which
would seem to be a natural progression, eventually agreed he
could wipe everybody out.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
But you have cable.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
You know, your frontier, your spectrum, all that, and cable
is great and reliable, but so is satellite and satellite
really is the future. I mean even airlines now are
switching to Wi Fi from satellites versus ye whatever it is.

(11:55):
They're bouncing to the land and the whole thing. So yeah,
I think this is important and I think they will
pass it or they'll just let it hang and let
the next administration do it. I mean that's you know,
I don't know how to play political games, but I
think that's how they're played.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, there's a calculation that's being made because if the
deal's not supposed to be consummated until early twenty twenty five,
we will have a new president, a new administration, and
I'm sure and sure, but it's still I mean, even
if Kamala Harris wins, it's still a different administration, so
it still figures into the calculations of when they want
to finish this deal exactly.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
And I think everybody will benefit from it because it
will make it a stronger network. Andike I said dishes technology,
I love it. The one thing I love about Dish
technology is I can stop a show in one room,
pick it up in another room of the house the DVR.
But then again, I have DVR from Tableau which works

(12:57):
with a little antenna in the window and I can
get local news and things like that. And that's another
thing we have to consider. We were talking about preparedness before,
maybe having those antennas that only cost about ten bucks
and an inexpensive system that will allow you to get
over the air programs. You'll be able to get your

(13:19):
local news in an emergency when cable or satellite go down.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Not including kf I AM six forty one of those
very important outlets for breaking news during an emergency.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
So you know, just have to fill I actually have.
I am sounding like such a crazy person. I actually
have one of those radios that you can crank to
church and the battery I do.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I am so old school.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yes, well that isn't old school. That is when there's
no electricity. We also have a giant Goal zero battery,
a giant one that when we did have a power outage,
has rolled out the refrigerator, plugged it into the Goal
zero and we would have had power for three days

(14:07):
for just the refrigerator.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Well, we still have a generator. We'll probably upgrade to
a battery soon.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
The cool thing about the battery thing is we have
solar panels that you can plug into it and put outside,
and it'll charge while it's discharging. So in other words,
you can charge something and charge it at the same time.
I love technology, especially if it helps people and we're
given the right to use it at a reasonable price.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Because our electric grid, we're talking about everything here on
the electric grid. Look around you.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, if our infrastructure is not where it needs to
be the next five years or so, we're going to
have a bunch more problems that we're not ready for.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Oh well, we're busy with a whole lot of other
problems that we're not going to go to politics. But
it seems to me that's not at the top of
the list.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Ructure never is, unfortunately, Marsha, I got a run, and
I know you're probably going to be doing some traveling
sometime soon.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
But hopefully we'll be able to do this again in person.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
I will be over in England and I will download
all the apps that I can't download here.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
I'm bringing three.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Funds and updating apps and we'll talk more about the
differences between the EU and the US when I get back.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Look forward to it.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
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