December 17, 2024 • 13 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth conversation with the Way Brothers, Chapman and Maclain; who join the program to preview their new Netflix docuseries 'Kings of Tupelo: A Southern Crime Saga,' which follows the “stranger-than-fiction story of an Elvis impersonator that finds himself embroiled in a small-town that is so bizarre it must be seen to be believed” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me tell you about a small town feud in
Mississippi which escalates into an all out war. From emby
award winning directors McLain way and Chapman Way, comes the
new three episode documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a
Southern crime saga now streaming on Netflix. It might be
the strangest yet truest story ever told. It has an
Elvis impersonator, a taekwondo instructor in elephant which was shot
(00:29):
to drive by a tiny dog with the tranquilizers of
means of revenge, and oh yeah, an attempt to assassinate
then President Obama with rice and can't leave that out. Yes,
a true story.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Please say.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Their investigation began from an anonymous tip.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I told the FBI, we have a strange individual.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I had the most controversial story in the entire state
of Mississippi and possibly the entire country.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
My mama raised me on Jesus and all this incormborating.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
Yes, in that order.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I had a peaceful and nice life, but one person
hated me.
Speaker 8 (01:05):
And made my life a living hail.
Speaker 7 (01:07):
James Everett Dusky, a karate instructure in Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Dutch Key Dusky Dusky.
Speaker 8 (01:13):
We called him douchebag.
Speaker 9 (01:14):
I'm Jay of Erdusky, and I approved this message.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I could have never dreamed how it turned into such
a scandal.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
This is my.
Speaker 8 (01:21):
Rival enemy stalking every move I made. Suck it, Kevin.
This thing became a war.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
My neighbor called your houses on fire.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
These two had a Napoleonic syndrome. Little men trying to
be big. I said, what's stalk could be?
Speaker 9 (01:34):
I have nothing to do with this.
Speaker 8 (01:36):
Are you having an affair with my wife?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Maybe we crossed the line?
Speaker 8 (01:39):
How far were this gop?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
We're following new development for Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Who mailed poison filed letters for the President of the
United States.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
A Mississippi congressman and US senator targeted.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
He'll be charged with an attempt to kill the President
of the United States.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
During my twenty five years in the Bureau, I've described
this case as the craziest in my career.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Some of our people are very insane.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I shot my dog with a tranquilizer little mookas anything suspicious.
Speaker 9 (02:09):
Everybody has something suspicious in their house.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
How do you go from a few with a former
friend to sending rising from the president I station that's a.
Speaker 8 (02:17):
Bad no note.
Speaker 9 (02:17):
I still don't even understand all of it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Of an elephant was shot in a drive by shooting,
I just found a server.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Hip you is said to be an Elvis impersonator obsessed
with conspiracies.
Speaker 8 (02:28):
Welcome to Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Joining me now in the show our code directors McClain
and Chapman Way. You may also know them from their
outstanding untold sports documentary series and Wild Wild Country, also
on Netflix.
Speaker 8 (02:41):
Gentlemen, thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That thank you for having us. We're excited to talk
about it. It's a banana.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
Story, Chapman. Let's start there, Chapman.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
As I said in my introduction, in just three episodes,
we will see a taekwondo instructor slash Elvis impersonator, learn
of an elephant shot and to drive by, an attempt
to kill President Obama with rice, then a dog shot
with a tranquilizer.
Speaker 8 (03:02):
And that's just for starters, right, that's.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Just the beginning of the madness.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, we you know, we had a recollection of this,
you know, happening in twenty thirteen, when an Elvis impersonator
was arrested for trying to assassinate President Barack Obama with
poisonous letters, and.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So it seemed like such an odd, bizarre story.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Mac and I flew out the two below in twenty
twenty one to meet with Paul Kevin Curtis, the main character,
find out what happened here, you know what is this
story about? And quickly kind of just uncovered so much
more than we could have ever bargained for. You know,
Kevin's story starts with finding a severed head in a
hospital working as a janitor. And that's kind of the
(03:42):
first step in this journey, so to speak, just to
give you a quick.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Taste, mclaan or Mac is some duke call you. That's
the first step or the first part this. But tell
me more about these former friends turned dangerous rivals.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Do we know what started the few?
Speaker 9 (03:58):
Yeah, so sure to give a little context. Kevin's journey
is a complicated one, but it certainly is what explains
of kind of where this story starts and where it begins.
So to pick pick up or chapelift up Kevin, He's
Elvison personator in Tuo Blow, Misissippi. He's working at a
janitor in a hospital, finds a severed head in a
mord and what Kevin becomes convinced of is that there
(04:20):
is a black market organ body parts trade happening in Tuplow, Mississippi.
That leads him to want to create his own House
bill resolution. You need a state representative from Mississippi to
pass a House bill resolution. That gets him to Steve Holland,
who himself as a state representative. Steve Holland is also
a funeral homeowner, which is a central part of Kevin's
(04:41):
black market body conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That then takes him to Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (04:46):
To the city US Senator Roger Wicker, who's from Mississippi.
Kevin performs as an Elvis and one of Roger Wicker's weddings,
and then that ultimately leads him to President of Brock
Obama to try to try and get this chaos pass.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Now, in the midst of that, he makes a lot
of enemies.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
One of these enemies that he makes is a karate
instructor Tupelo, a man named James Everett dutch Key. Now
Kevin ultimately gets ends up getting arrested for sending these
poisonous letters to Obama, to Wicker, to Holland. But I'll
leave it at this because a big portion is did
Kevin do it?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Did he not?
Speaker 9 (05:21):
That was a big part of his innocence, which involves
James ever Dutchby's story.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Chapman, I've never been to Mississippi, and given this story,
I don't think I will ever go to Mississippi. But
this sounds like it could only happened in Mississippi. What
is it about this state which lends itself to this
type of weirdness and mayhem?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, we quickly.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Realized, you know, flying out there and then meeting a
lot of the people in tu Blow and surrounding areas,
that you know.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
They're very proud of their eccentricity.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It's something they wear. It's a badge of honor. They
wear it on their sleeve. They embrace it. Which was
incredible for us as filmmakers and storytellers. And quickly realized
that it was just like a murderer's row of talking
heads of storytellers.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
All these people can can weave an incredible yarn to
spinning yarn. They can heighten stories, they can embellish stories.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Sometimes some untruths are even thrown into these stories and
really became a big part of making this series is
what is real, what is not, what's fact, what's fiction?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What really happened here?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And it's part of the fun of the roller coaster,
of going on the watching the Kings of Tupula.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Maybe that's the app description, Mac, because when when Chap
says roller coaster, we get on a ride, we expect
to enjoy it, we want the thrill. But nobody dies.
How is it nobody died in this story.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's a great question. I've been asked that one yet,
and maybe some people came close. Because I don't want
to spoil too much.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
But there's a judge who does take a sniff of
these rising letters, and she's older, but even she was
able to survive. But I think had this thing kept
on eating up, I think someone might ended up in
the ground.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
I know that an elephant got shot, like Chad mentioned,
Kevin's dog got tranquilized.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But everyone made it out of this story alive.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
That we know, Chap.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm quite sure when you and Max started researching this story,
you probably thought one thing or thought the story might
have been told one way, but then it probably grew
the more you investigated, the more people that you talked to,
and became even more incredible than you originally thought.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
Am I right?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
What we initially thought was just going to be a
story about a feud basically turned into this massive conspiracy
rabbit hole of severed heads and the black market organ
trade happening in the South and around the world, and
so it took us down a rabbit hole of trying
to figure out what's going on here, how this all works,
and there's just yeah, I mean, it was never a
(07:49):
shortage of shocking events. I mean, Kevin's house burns down
to the ground during this conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Rabbit holes, car is blown up.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I mean, it's just kind of nonstot madness and figuring
out who's responsible, who is behind this, what's going on
is part of the investigative process of the audience gets
to go on when they watch it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Gentlemen, let's take a brief pause and then we can
pick up our conversation. There's so much I do want
to cover with you as we talk about The Kings
of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now available on Netflix.
My guess right now are Chapman and McLain way, the
co directors of the Kings of Tupelo. Will have more
in just a moment. It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI
(08:27):
AM six forty. We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I'm right in the middle of an incredible conversation
with co directors. Brothers fantastic filmmakers Chapman Way and McLain way.
They are co directors of the new three episode documentary
series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now
available on Netflix. The story is seemingly unbelievable, but it
(09:01):
is all true. It has an Elvis impersonator slashing a
taekwondo instructor, an elephant which was shot in a drive
by shooting, not kidding, a tiny dog shot with a
tranquilizer as a means of revenge, and oh yeah, an
attempt to assassinate then President Obama with rising.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
FBI, Secret Service, US Capitol Police, Postal Service, National Guard
on insecurity Senate daily talks in to the US President.
There's a lot of folks going to start trying to
figure out who you are.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I really didn't know why this particular individual shows me,
but sending the letter to the president was a grave,
grave mistake on his part.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
The first step of the investigation we needed to do
some link analysis. The envelopes were all postmarked Memphis, Tennessee.
When they go through the postal service, their stand with
a bar code, and the bar code indicated that the
originating office was Tuplo, Mississippi. So Tuplo became ground zero
(10:17):
for this operation.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It is incredible, but it is now part of the
three part documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern
crime Saga and Mac take me into the creation process.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
You have all this.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Raw video and stories that you didn't know prior to
starting on this journey. How do you and your brother,
your co directors sit down and try to make some
sense out of the seeming nonsense and tell a coherent
story across maybe three episodes.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
It's a great question because a part of the story
is a confusing conspiracy theory that as filmmakers you then
need to break down and process and make conspiracy, which
doesn't really make a lot of sense kind of makes
sense to an audience.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And so that was a bit of a two and
a half year journey.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Now what's helpful is we probably had sixty shoot days,
and we interviewed people for a really long time. Listen,
I think we interviewed Kevin for four or five NonStop days.
We interviewed his former wife Laura for two days. We
interviewed Steve Holland, who's one of our main character, for
three days, and you're just pulling all this information out
of it. I will say this, one of the things
that we got lucky on is there's a tremendous amount
(11:29):
of archive footage in the series, and that's because we
got a lot of that archive footage from the FBI themselves.
Because the FBI rated both Paul Kevin Curtis's house and
James Everett Dutchby's house. They pick up all their hard drives,
they pick up all their tapes, they pick up all
their video cameras, and it's been kept in storage for
the last eleven years. So for us, that was a
God said because all of a sudden, all this footage
(11:50):
shows up on our doorstep and it's perfectly organized and
that's because the FBI were the people that controlled this
media for quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Let me close with this one question. They seem simple,
but I know it's not. First to you, Chap, what
was your takeaway from doing this project, from learning this
story which is a little bit different from Wild Wold
Country or maybe not or different from Untold.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Yeah, I think the big takeaway for me was kind
of the insight into the birth of internet and internet
conspiracies and the rabbit holes and how do people find
themselves going down these rabbit holes and what does it
provide to them. Maybe it's a sense of validation, a
sense of importance, a sense of meaning, and so I
(12:33):
think it's like, obviously, conspiracies have become such.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
A huge part of our culture today.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
So I think this story kind of is shows you
a window into a time much earlier in our country
when the kind of birth of all this stuff was happening.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
Mac last word to.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
You, Yeah, for me, it was I'm excited to get
to introduce audiences to this really unique town of Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It was certainly my experience there.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
I think that Tupelo is the only place where a
kid could have been born in a shotgun shack and
he rises to become the king of rock and roll.
And I think that that has an impact on the
talent Citi sense. I think a lot of these people
have very big dreams, aspirations, ideals of right and wrong,
and for us, we got to just kind of press
record and let them go.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And that's certainly what our documentary series is.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He is mac Atan McLain way, and alongside of his
brother Chapman Way, they are co directors of the new
three episode documentary series The Kings of Two Plow, a
Southern crime saga, now available on Netflix. Gentlemen, thank you
so much for doing this. I don't know how you
did it, but I'm glad you did it. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Thanks so much both. I'm really fun conversation. Thanks for
having us on.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me tell you about a small town feud in
Mississippi which escalates into an all out war. From emby
award winning directors McLain way and Chapman Way, comes the
new three episode documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a
Southern crime saga now streaming on Netflix. It might be
the strangest yet truest story ever told. It has an
Elvis impersonator, a taekwondo instructor in elephant which was shot
(00:29):
to drive by a tiny dog with the tranquilizers of
means of revenge, and oh yeah, an attempt to assassinate
then President Obama with rice and can't leave that out. Yes,
a true story.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Please say.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Their investigation began from an anonymous tip.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I told the FBI, we have a strange individual.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I had the most controversial story in the entire state
of Mississippi and possibly the entire country.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
My mama raised me on Jesus and all this incormborating.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
Yes, in that order.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I had a peaceful and nice life, but one person
hated me.
Speaker 8 (01:05):
And made my life a living hail.
Speaker 7 (01:07):
James Everett Dusky, a karate instructure in Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Dutch Key Dusky Dusky.
Speaker 8 (01:13):
We called him douchebag.
Speaker 9 (01:14):
I'm Jay of Erdusky, and I approved this message.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I could have never dreamed how it turned into such
a scandal.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
This is my.
Speaker 8 (01:21):
Rival enemy stalking every move I made. Suck it, Kevin.
This thing became a war.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
My neighbor called your houses on fire.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
These two had a Napoleonic syndrome. Little men trying to
be big. I said, what's stalk could be?
Speaker 9 (01:34):
I have nothing to do with this.
Speaker 8 (01:36):
Are you having an affair with my wife?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Maybe we crossed the line?
Speaker 8 (01:39):
How far were this gop?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
We're following new development for Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Who mailed poison filed letters for the President of the
United States.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
A Mississippi congressman and US senator targeted.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
He'll be charged with an attempt to kill the President
of the United States.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
During my twenty five years in the Bureau, I've described
this case as the craziest in my career.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Some of our people are very insane.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I shot my dog with a tranquilizer little mookas anything suspicious.
Speaker 9 (02:09):
Everybody has something suspicious in their house.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
How do you go from a few with a former
friend to sending rising from the president I station that's a.
Speaker 8 (02:17):
Bad no note.
Speaker 9 (02:17):
I still don't even understand all of it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Of an elephant was shot in a drive by shooting,
I just found a server.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Hip you is said to be an Elvis impersonator obsessed
with conspiracies.
Speaker 8 (02:28):
Welcome to Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Joining me now in the show our code directors McClain
and Chapman Way. You may also know them from their
outstanding untold sports documentary series and Wild Wild Country, also
on Netflix.
Speaker 8 (02:41):
Gentlemen, thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That thank you for having us. We're excited to talk
about it. It's a banana.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
Story, Chapman. Let's start there, Chapman.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
As I said in my introduction, in just three episodes,
we will see a taekwondo instructor slash Elvis impersonator, learn
of an elephant shot and to drive by, an attempt
to kill President Obama with rice, then a dog shot
with a tranquilizer.
Speaker 8 (03:02):
And that's just for starters, right, that's.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Just the beginning of the madness.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, we you know, we had a recollection of this,
you know, happening in twenty thirteen, when an Elvis impersonator
was arrested for trying to assassinate President Barack Obama with
poisonous letters, and.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So it seemed like such an odd, bizarre story.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Mac and I flew out the two below in twenty
twenty one to meet with Paul Kevin Curtis, the main character,
find out what happened here, you know what is this
story about? And quickly kind of just uncovered so much
more than we could have ever bargained for. You know,
Kevin's story starts with finding a severed head in a
hospital working as a janitor. And that's kind of the
(03:42):
first step in this journey, so to speak, just to
give you a quick.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Taste, mclaan or Mac is some duke call you. That's
the first step or the first part this. But tell
me more about these former friends turned dangerous rivals.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Do we know what started the few?
Speaker 9 (03:58):
Yeah, so sure to give a little context. Kevin's journey
is a complicated one, but it certainly is what explains
of kind of where this story starts and where it begins.
So to pick pick up or chapelift up Kevin, He's
Elvison personator in Tuo Blow, Misissippi. He's working at a
janitor in a hospital, finds a severed head in a
mord and what Kevin becomes convinced of is that there
(04:20):
is a black market organ body parts trade happening in Tuplow, Mississippi.
That leads him to want to create his own House
bill resolution. You need a state representative from Mississippi to
pass a House bill resolution. That gets him to Steve Holland,
who himself as a state representative. Steve Holland is also
a funeral homeowner, which is a central part of Kevin's
(04:41):
black market body conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That then takes him to Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (04:46):
To the city US Senator Roger Wicker, who's from Mississippi.
Kevin performs as an Elvis and one of Roger Wicker's weddings,
and then that ultimately leads him to President of Brock
Obama to try to try and get this chaos pass.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Now, in the midst of that, he makes a lot
of enemies.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
One of these enemies that he makes is a karate
instructor Tupelo, a man named James Everett dutch Key. Now
Kevin ultimately gets ends up getting arrested for sending these
poisonous letters to Obama, to Wicker, to Holland. But I'll
leave it at this because a big portion is did
Kevin do it?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Did he not?
Speaker 9 (05:21):
That was a big part of his innocence, which involves
James ever Dutchby's story.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Chapman, I've never been to Mississippi, and given this story,
I don't think I will ever go to Mississippi. But
this sounds like it could only happened in Mississippi. What
is it about this state which lends itself to this
type of weirdness and mayhem?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, we quickly.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Realized, you know, flying out there and then meeting a
lot of the people in tu Blow and surrounding areas,
that you know.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
They're very proud of their eccentricity.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It's something they wear. It's a badge of honor. They
wear it on their sleeve. They embrace it. Which was
incredible for us as filmmakers and storytellers. And quickly realized
that it was just like a murderer's row of talking
heads of storytellers.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
All these people can can weave an incredible yarn to
spinning yarn. They can heighten stories, they can embellish stories.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Sometimes some untruths are even thrown into these stories and
really became a big part of making this series is
what is real, what is not, what's fact, what's fiction?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What really happened here?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And it's part of the fun of the roller coaster,
of going on the watching the Kings of Tupula.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Maybe that's the app description, Mac, because when when Chap
says roller coaster, we get on a ride, we expect
to enjoy it, we want the thrill. But nobody dies.
How is it nobody died in this story.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's a great question. I've been asked that one yet,
and maybe some people came close. Because I don't want
to spoil too much.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
But there's a judge who does take a sniff of
these rising letters, and she's older, but even she was
able to survive. But I think had this thing kept
on eating up, I think someone might ended up in
the ground.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
I know that an elephant got shot, like Chad mentioned,
Kevin's dog got tranquilized.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But everyone made it out of this story alive.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
That we know, Chap.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm quite sure when you and Max started researching this story,
you probably thought one thing or thought the story might
have been told one way, but then it probably grew
the more you investigated, the more people that you talked to,
and became even more incredible than you originally thought.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
Am I right?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
What we initially thought was just going to be a
story about a feud basically turned into this massive conspiracy
rabbit hole of severed heads and the black market organ
trade happening in the South and around the world, and
so it took us down a rabbit hole of trying
to figure out what's going on here, how this all works,
and there's just yeah, I mean, it was never a
(07:49):
shortage of shocking events. I mean, Kevin's house burns down
to the ground during this conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Rabbit holes, car is blown up.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I mean, it's just kind of nonstot madness and figuring
out who's responsible, who is behind this, what's going on
is part of the investigative process of the audience gets
to go on when they watch it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Gentlemen, let's take a brief pause and then we can
pick up our conversation. There's so much I do want
to cover with you as we talk about The Kings
of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now available on Netflix.
My guess right now are Chapman and McLain way, the
co directors of the Kings of Tupelo. Will have more
in just a moment. It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI
(08:27):
AM six forty. We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I'm right in the middle of an incredible conversation
with co directors. Brothers fantastic filmmakers Chapman Way and McLain way.
They are co directors of the new three episode documentary
series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now
available on Netflix. The story is seemingly unbelievable, but it
(09:01):
is all true. It has an Elvis impersonator slashing a
taekwondo instructor, an elephant which was shot in a drive
by shooting, not kidding, a tiny dog shot with a
tranquilizer as a means of revenge, and oh yeah, an
attempt to assassinate then President Obama with rising.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
FBI, Secret Service, US Capitol Police, Postal Service, National Guard
on insecurity Senate daily talks in to the US President.
There's a lot of folks going to start trying to
figure out who you are.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I really didn't know why this particular individual shows me,
but sending the letter to the president was a grave,
grave mistake on his part.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
The first step of the investigation we needed to do
some link analysis. The envelopes were all postmarked Memphis, Tennessee.
When they go through the postal service, their stand with
a bar code, and the bar code indicated that the
originating office was Tuplo, Mississippi. So Tuplo became ground zero
(10:17):
for this operation.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It is incredible, but it is now part of the
three part documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern
crime Saga and Mac take me into the creation process.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
You have all this.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Raw video and stories that you didn't know prior to
starting on this journey. How do you and your brother,
your co directors sit down and try to make some
sense out of the seeming nonsense and tell a coherent
story across maybe three episodes.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
It's a great question because a part of the story
is a confusing conspiracy theory that as filmmakers you then
need to break down and process and make conspiracy, which
doesn't really make a lot of sense kind of makes
sense to an audience.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And so that was a bit of a two and
a half year journey.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Now what's helpful is we probably had sixty shoot days,
and we interviewed people for a really long time. Listen,
I think we interviewed Kevin for four or five NonStop days.
We interviewed his former wife Laura for two days. We
interviewed Steve Holland, who's one of our main character, for
three days, and you're just pulling all this information out
of it. I will say this, one of the things
that we got lucky on is there's a tremendous amount
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of archive footage in the series, and that's because we
got a lot of that archive footage from the FBI themselves.
Because the FBI rated both Paul Kevin Curtis's house and
James Everett Dutchby's house. They pick up all their hard drives,
they pick up all their tapes, they pick up all
their video cameras, and it's been kept in storage for
the last eleven years. So for us, that was a
God said because all of a sudden, all this footage
(11:50):
shows up on our doorstep and it's perfectly organized and
that's because the FBI were the people that controlled this
media for quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Let me close with this one question. They seem simple,
but I know it's not. First to you, Chap, what
was your takeaway from doing this project, from learning this
story which is a little bit different from Wild Wold
Country or maybe not or different from Untold.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Yeah, I think the big takeaway for me was kind
of the insight into the birth of internet and internet
conspiracies and the rabbit holes and how do people find
themselves going down these rabbit holes and what does it
provide to them. Maybe it's a sense of validation, a
sense of importance, a sense of meaning, and so I
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think it's like, obviously, conspiracies have become such.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
A huge part of our culture today.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
So I think this story kind of is shows you
a window into a time much earlier in our country
when the kind of birth of all this stuff was happening.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
Mac last word to.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
You, Yeah, for me, it was I'm excited to get
to introduce audiences to this really unique town of Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It was certainly my experience there.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
I think that Tupelo is the only place where a
kid could have been born in a shotgun shack and
he rises to become the king of rock and roll.
And I think that that has an impact on the
talent Citi sense. I think a lot of these people
have very big dreams, aspirations, ideals of right and wrong,
and for us, we got to just kind of press
record and let them go.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And that's certainly what our documentary series is.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He is mac Atan McLain way, and alongside of his
brother Chapman Way, they are co directors of the new
three episode documentary series The Kings of Two Plow, a
Southern crime saga, now available on Netflix. Gentlemen, thank you
so much for doing this. I don't know how you
did it, but I'm glad you did it. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Thanks so much both. I'm really fun conversation. Thanks for
having us on.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
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