October 11, 2024 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the “100 Best Horror Movies of All Time” (according to Variety) from ‘The Omen’ & ‘The Blob,’ to ‘A Nightmare on Elm Street’ & ‘The Invasion of the Body Snatchers’ and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Last year, we did a list of the one hundred
best movies of all time and it was done by Variety,
and it was probably one of the worst cinematic lists
ever known to humankind. This is the one hundred best
horror movies of all time, also from Variety, and just
quickly perusing it, it might be the second worst list
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of all time. I think it might be worse. It. Well,
let's just get into it so we can show people
exactly what we mean. This is according to Variety, not us,
coming in at number one hundred. I will look to you,
Mark Roner. Most of these movies I don't know, but
the ones I do know, they're wildly out of place
as far as they're ranking.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh there's some stinkers on here. And I gotta warn
you before we really get into the meat of this.
Critics generally are not horror film fans, so you know,
going into this to kind of take it with a
grain of salt. But this is just outright clickbait approaching
rage bait. There are some weird choices on here.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
There are movies on this list which aren't even horror movies. Yes,
we'll get into it. Coming in at number one hundred
of the best horror movies of all time? Repulsion, okay, whatever, Polanski, Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, you know, fine, one hundred, number
ninety nine, Suspiria.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's the best thing our Gento has done. It's a masterpiece.
It should be higher than ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Agree, okay? Ninety eight The Devil's Backbone. Not a big
Ghermo del Toro fan when it comes to horror.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well, it's a worthy movie. But is it in the
top one hundred best of all time? I don't know
about that. Number ninety seven The Haunting, the nineteen sixty
three version, another masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, higher than ninety seven, especially when you look at
some of the stuff that's up higher.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I put it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Just highlight it because we'll come back to that again
and again. I'm trying to not use all the words
we can't use on the radio.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
This is where I about threw my phone across the room,
coming in at number ninety six. Invasion of the Body
Snatchers nineteen seventy eight. For me, it has to be
top ten. It deserves to be far higher than that.
I can listen to arguments like, well, bo, you forgot
about this, okay, and you move it down to twenty,
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but not ninety seven. Don't tell me that there are
ninety five movies which are better, more impactful, more meaningful
to the genre than the nineteen seventy eight version of
Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, especially on this list ninety five Dead Alive, early
Peter Jackson. It's entertaining, but I wouldn't put it on
this list, not on the top one.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Hundred, ninety four event horizon. I personally really like the movie,
it's not top one hundred. I can separate and compartmentalize.
Just because I like something, it doesn't make it great.
You know, I've had that on my rewatch list for
years and now. It didn't leave me with a very
strong impression when I first saw it. Yeah, it was okay.
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And also I have a friend who's in the movie,
so I have an affinity for movies like that. Oh
who the brother of the movie, okay man, Richard Jones.
His name nice number ninety three cat people val Lewton
if you don't know who that is. He was a
producer of Black and white, kind of short B films,
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and I guess generally the forties and fifties, and they're
all just absolutely wonderful. You could pick any one of them,
including cat people. I walked with the Zombie his whole Ouvra,
I guess should be on this list. He's terrific. The
Human Centipede Part two, Yeah, this is where we start
waking the throw chairs. Yeah, better than invasion on the
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body snatches.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, why is this even there? Who's responsible for this?
And why haven't they been fired? Number ninety one Dead
of Night. Didn't see it? Oh, that's good. It's a
British anthology what they call a Portmanteau movie with several
different stories.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You'll be using words like port Monteau.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, that's what they call it. We call them anthology.
Dead of Night's not bad at all.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Number ninety is a page of madness, not familiar. I
didn't know that one either. Eighty nine Horror of Dracula
fifty eight, that should be higher.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's from Hammer Films, that fantastic British company that kind
of flourished from i'd say the late fifties to the
early seventies, and there's a lot of terrific historic hammer
stuff that's not on this list, and that's infuriating, Like
where's the Curse of Frankenstein?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Where is that's not on the list?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Where is Brides of Dracula, which is one of the
all time greatest. Eighty eight Blood Feast Herschel Gordon lewis
the first real true gore film. It belongs on there,
just for historic reasons. Eighty seven The Vanishing I barely
remember it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's good, but if eighty six Village of the Damned
I listened to it, Yeah, yeah, exactly, I don't mind
it being there. Eighty five Reanimator, Yes, I'll just say
on the list. I don't know where. That's fine. Eighty
four Dead Ringers, Okay, Cronenberg.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Here's where we have an issue, because Cronenberg is one
of the masters. Dead Ringers isn't really a horror film,
and you're gonna put Dead Ringers on there, but not
Scanners The Dead.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Bone he did Scanners. Yeah, yeah, that's one of my
favorites as well. I didn't know for some reason, I
didn't make the connection. I can watch Scanners almost anything.
Watched that like two weeks ago. It's your first exploding
Head film. You know what, that's a movie. I would
be open to a remake. I would like to see
that universe expanded. Yes, as a music fan, you have
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to love the Howard Shore Sounds score to Scanners. It's terrific.
Eighty three Little Shop of Horrors. Yeah, I don't know
about that. Is it a horror movie? No, it's a
horror spoof. It's a comedy.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, you've got Little Shop of Horrors, which is from
Roger Corman, but you don't have Corman's Edgar Allan Poe
movies on there, like The Pit and the Pendulum, The
Mask of the Red Death, Go to hell with this.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Eighty two What Lies Beneath That is not a horror movie. Yeah. Again,
people need to be losing their jobs for that one.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Eighty one The wolf Man, Okay, yeah, all the universal
stuff belongs on there. Eighty House of Wax, I remember
some of it. You know, it's kind of a historic. Gimme,
you gotta have it in there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Seventy nine the omen Yes should be higher, agreed. Seventy
eight angst. I didn't know that one.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
That's an obscure choice, and it just kind of goes
to my point that some of these critics are so
jaded they want to kind of show off by throwing
some way out of left field thing in there. If I,
as a lifetime horror fan, have never heard of that,
Your Head's all the way.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Up your tailpipe seventy seven The Blob. I think it's meaningful,
it's relevant. Yeah, seventy six I walked with a zombie. No,
that's another val Luton, the same one as Cat People.
Terrific seventy five The Descent.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, it's kind of a you could accuse them
of recency bias, but the first Descent movie really is
an armed grip of the I'm trying to say, it'll
make you grip the arm of your chair. I took
it to another I took another hardcore horror fan with
me to the critics screening of that way back when
our eyes were both like saucers. By the end of
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that seventy four A Nightmare on Elm Street. I'll put
it on there for this reason. I think it is
genre defining for its time. Yeah, people dig it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Seventy three Blood for Dracula.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Okay, that's one of those two Andy Warhol Dracula and
Frankenstein movies. They were nothing but shocking kind of dirty
stuff for the time. They're not good, actual good horror films.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Seventy two, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Yes, seventy one,
Hostile Part two meaning that Hostile Part one, never mind
absolutely not rot in hell. Whoever put that on there?
And the last one before we go to Break the
Wailing Shutter has that and that's been on my watch
list forever. It's got a good reputation, but I don't
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know it, haven't seen it. When we come back. The
one hundred Best Horror Movies of All Time, picking up
with number sixty nine, it's Later with mo Kelly k
if I AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
We're right in the middle of the list from Variety,
the one hundred best Horror movies of all time, according
to idiots who work at Variety who know nothing about
the genre or movies. They must all be about twelve
years old, and they threw all these names in a
hat and threw it up and down, and then they
just put them on this list randomly. And we're reading
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the order that these twelve year olds came up with,
and I mean that most disrespectfully. Number sixty nine Near Dark,
Catherine Bigelow. Yeah, I don't love that like a lot
of people do. But it's a great horror vampire for
a landmark vampire movie, and I guess it deserves to
be on there. That's some good Lance Henrickson too, by
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the way. Number sixty eight The Sixth Sense, which put M.
Knight Shyamalan on the mat. I don't. I don't think
of this as a horror movie. I think of it
as a psychological thriller. Just because it includes dead people
doesn't make it horror.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I agree with you. And it also is the
one that kind of showed that he M. Knight made
a big splash but turned out to be kind of
a one trick pony for a very long time. Did
sixty seven Possession? You know that has had a growing
reputation right over the decades. Yeah, and what is it Isabella, Johnny?
You think you're right. It didn't leave me with a
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huge impression, but it's one of those movies that's quiet
and quiet and then just shocking.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Sixty six The Baba Duc decent okay. Sixty five The
Incredible Shrinking Man not a horror film?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well yeah, I mean it's an incredible movie based on
a book by Richard Matheson, and I could watch that
any day. It's just it holds up wonderfully. But where's
the horror? Why did they not have enough horror films
to choose from? As I can nay, so they left out?
Then they could have put in instead.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They must have, because as we get further in this list,
you'll realize that this is really not a horror list.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, The Shrinking Man should be on a list of
great sci fi movies.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Sci fi yes. Sixty four Planet Terror, absolutely not Go
to Hell. Sixty three Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde. Sure, sure, right, sure?
Which version though? Which version did they?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
The thirty one version? Okay, yeah, there's several, just pick one. Yeah, yeah,
listen to this though, coming in at number sixty two okay,
of the one hundred best horror movies of all time,
on a list which saw Invasion of the Body Snatchers
at ninety six with Donald Sutherland with one of the
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most classic scenes of all time, Jeff Gold It was
a wonderful cast Okay, that was ninety six. Coming in
at number sixty two Grimlins.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, I'm not going to bad mouth Joe Dante. I
think he's a great director, but that doesn't belong there.
It's not a horror movie, not really. No, it's more
a Christmas movie than it is a horror movie.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And it's.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It's just not a horror movie. Whoever put that there
doesn't understand horror.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Sixty one Candy Man. I think it's on the list,
but I will put it closer to one hundred.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Uh, let's just keep moving, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Number sixty Funny Games. Okay, have you seen Funny Games? Now?
I have not. I think you know.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's more suspense than horror, first of all, and there's
more than one version. There's an American version as well.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I just recently watched it because I was morbidly curious
and was like, oh, that's like, what's the most twisted movie?
And a lot of things that came up was Funny Games,
and it's it's pretty rough.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It makes those lists because it's absolutely neilistic and pointless.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Number fifty nine whatever happened to Baby Jane? Never have
seen that either by either by number fifty eight Raw
Eddie Murphy. No, not well, if be a toss up
between that and the Raw that they did include. I'm
not a fan of the Raw that they put on
this list, and I've seen a lot of kind of
if feat Film snobs praised that movie over the years,
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and you were the first person to use feet on
the radio, and it makes me want to punch those
people in the neck.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Number fifty seven Peeping Tom. That's decent, but it's not
a horror film. Powell and Presburger. Yeah, Number fifty six.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't mind this movie, and I don't mind it
in this location. The Fly, the Cronenberg Fly. Yes, yes, yeah,
you know, I just it might even a little higher.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Honestly, it's really a wonderful film, and I just rewatched
it for the first time since it came out recently.
It holds up phenomenal, phenomenally.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, And it's so it's such a sad movie because
you know, it only ends one way, and the ending
just leaves you sitting there with your mouth hanging all this. Yeah, yeah,
it's great. Number fifty five The Cabinet of Doctor Calgary Calgary, Okay, yeah,
you kind of have to have that because it was
one of the first. Uh fifty four, let the right
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one in. I didn't see this one, but I hear
good things about it. Well, there's an American version and
a foreign version, and they're both very good. Number fifty three.
I've never understood this movie. I don't know. I've never
understood the appeal of this movie, but I understand why
as far as horror genre, it's on every list. Eraser Head.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I saw that on a double bill when I was
a teenager with the original Night of the Living Dead,
and I wasn't the same for several days afterward.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's messed up. Fifty two Blood and Black Lace of
sixty four.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Early Mario Baba more of a Giallo than a horror.
But whatever. Compared to some of the other outrages on
this list, it's not that bad. Number fifty one Irreversible, Okay,
do you know that movie?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It is a really intense movie about a rape that
is told backward. I think Gaspernoe was the director. It's
not a horror film. I mean, it's tough to get through,
but it's not a horror film. Number fifty only Baba
on Ebaba on Baba. Yeah, it's a I think Japanese
horror film. It's been years since I've seen it. That's quality.
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Number forty nine The Witch twenty fifteen version, little great inflation,
a little recency bias with that one. It's very good,
but it's not one of the hundred best of all time.
That's that Robert Eggers, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yes, now here is a debate to be had. Number
forty eight Alfred Hitchcock. I don't believe Alfred Hitchcock all
of his stuff was horror. Some of it was more
psychological thriller. I believe for sure. Forty eight The Birds.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, I think The Birds kind of is horror because
you never get an explanation for these bird attacks and
it just abruptly ends. And when you see somebody in
the midst of a bird mailstream getting pecked to death,
that sure is horrific.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Number forty seven it's not a horror movie. It is
literally a different genre. Godzilla the nineteen fifty four version.
It's tragic Godzilla goes to town and destroys the city. But
just because people die doesn't make it a horror movie. Well,
there's your side. Debate.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Is a giant monster Kaiju movie really a horror movie,
I'm not so sure it is.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Number forty six. Yes, it deserves to be on this list,
and yes it deserves to be higher on my list.
The nineteen eighty two movie The Thing, Oh way higher.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, it's brilliant and it was a flop when it
came out, and it's done nothing but gain cred over
the decades. It's I've seen that movie so many times.
I know it chapter and verse.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Number forty five, The Invisible Band, Yes, just because yeaheah.
Number number forty four, Manhunter. I don't know if it's horror,
but it's one of Michael Mann's greatest forty three Vampire
p y r. The Theodore Dryer one thirty two, Carl
Theatre Dryer. Yep, yep, gotta have that number forty two.
I like this movie. I don't know where I would
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place it twenty eight days later. Oh, way too high,
Way too high.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's a quality film and it's it's pretty tense, and
even though the director Danny Boyle insists it not, it's
not zombies, it's zombies.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Number forty one, The Devil's nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, that one's hard to find and it is really
a shocking ordeal of a movie to go through. If
you've never seen that, strap yourself in track down a copy.
It's very good. And make sure you there's several different
versions floating around too. And that's like a side vocation
for people finding different versions of that to watch.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Last one for this break, number forty is Bride of Frankenstein. Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Absolutely one hundred percent should be way up high. It's
Later with mo.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Kelly more of the top one hundred horror movies according
to some twelve year olds at Variety.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
When we come back, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Let's get back to the list of the one hundred
best horror movies of all time according to Variety and
their editors who decided to send in their children to
work and make this list instead of them.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You cannot insult them enough for this. Oh, I have
another two segments to insult them. I have a lot
of real estate to work with. I letter Rip coming
in at number thirty nine. It's a freaking musical quieton,
Are you sure that's a music? I don't think that's
a musical. Oh well, it seems like a musical. No, no,
that's a Japanese horror film. It's okay, okay, so that's
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a quality film. They didn't screw up on that particular one, Okay,
I take it back there. Number thirty eight Freaks of
nineteen thirty two. Yeah, that's another one that didn't do
great when it came out, and it kind of destroyed
Todd Browning's career for a while because nobody really wanted
to see actual freaks in a movie. But again, its
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reputation picked up over the years and now it's considered
a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Number thirty seven Deep Red Profondo Rosso.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, Dario Argento. I think Suspiria, which is way up higher,
belongs in front of it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Though.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Number thirty six Hereditary, Yeah, another great inflation a recency
bias rather than that doesn't belong that far up.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's good though, shouldn't be on the list at all. Look,
I don't think anything made in the past ten years
should be on this list. I'm being honest. I think
it has to age like wine and let history tell
the story of its impact.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So you know, how like you've been saying, like children
were putting in charge of this list. Whoever was in
charge of writing Hereditary, I think they put their children to.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Let their kids do it.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I thought Hereditary was a decent movie, but it's certainly
not one of the hundred greatest of all time. And
you know, you are just shocked with your mouth hanging
open within the first few minutes of that. And the
ending of Hereditary is also one where you're just kind
of that's a talker when when you're walking out of
the theater. But not not top one hundred material, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Number thirty five. Invasion of the Body Snatcher is the
fifty six version. Absolutely yeah, yep. Number thirty four Evil
Dead Too is better than that. No, it's good. I mean,
everybody loves it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But and I say move it further down though, And
I've written Evil Dead comics, so I'm prone to like it.
But I think they're rating it too high. Number thirty
three M as in the letter M, that's not a
horror film. No, it's okay, it doesn't matter. Number thirty
two The Night of the Hi from nineteen fifty five,
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again not a horror film, but an absolutely phenomenal one
off from Charles Lawton, who was an actor and it's
the only film he directed. If you haven't seen that,
just bump it way up to the top of your
watch list. It's great. Number thirty one the Japanese movie Ring.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Whu.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I guess this is what the Ring was based on? Yeah, yeah,
I guess you kind of have that. That was one
of the couple that kicked off the whole Jay horror
tread yep. Number thirty Eyes Without a Face nineteen sixty.
You sends visage. It's not that scary, but I guess
for the time it came out, it was kind of
shocking in terms of its subject matter. It's about a
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surgeon who cuts faces off people to put him on,
I think his daughter who's disfigured. But the movie face
off they're distant cousins man, okay. Number twenty nine Phantom
of the Opera, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay? Yeah? Which one? Yep?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The twenty five version. Yeah, there's a hammer version from
I think the late fifties. That's pretty good too.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Isn't that a musical? No? No, not that one? Well adaptation, yeah,
oh yeah, there's that Andrew Lloyd Weber War Crime, which
that's a whole different list. Number twenty eight The wicker Man,
absolutely a masterpiece. Yeah, I'm thinking it might be higher.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, and not the Neil le Butte remake seventy The Bees, Oh,
not the Bees. No, this one is fantastic. It's the
best thing Edward Woodward ever did. And Christopher Lee is
magnificent in it too. Twenty seven Dracula, Yeah, of course,
which Dracula?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Thirty one? Okay, Yeah. Twenty six The Innocence CNTs.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, with Debra Carr. That's a great, great film. I
think it's based on Henry James Turn of the Screw.
If I'm remembering this right, you are. And it's a
ghost story. It's not so much a horror story, but
it's it's really good. Number twenty five.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I guess you could argue it's genre defining for the
decade Scream, but I don't think it's a good movie.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I'm not a fan of that at all. I don't
think it should be on this line.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Look, I could think of a bunch of other slasher
movies which were better than Screen, but it was jonitified.
It should just be lower, way lower. Number twenty four,
Get the f out of here, The Blair Witch Project
nolly garbage, No, That movie was garbage, absolute track. It
was a prank.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Number twenty three Daughter of the Dead, Yeah, one hundred
percent deserves to be very high on any list. That
that changed pop culture, and I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Twenty two Carnival of Souls.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I say, yes, well that's where Romero, George Romero got
the idea for a night of a living dead. It's
very spooky, not very scary. Number twenty one Black Sunday
didn't see this one?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is that another problem? Yeah? I think that's an early yellow,
not very scary. Number twenty. It was a good movie,
but I don't know if it's one of the top
one hundred and it's Yeah, I guess it's horror get out.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
No way should that be anywhere near this high if
it's even on the list?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, I look, I thought it was a nice twist,
you know, in the movie. But whatever now. Number nineteen
The Mummy, Yeah, which one thirty two? Uh huh? Number
eighteen We have not seen a lot from this creator
the Shining. Not a lot of Stephen King on this
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list as in Nune No, and Stephen King hates Stanley
Kubrick's version. Yes she does. There was a TV movie
made of it mini series is Stephen Weber. A few
years later that King actually liked Number seventeen. The Abolique, Yeah,
very good.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It's it's a little slow, but once you get to
the scare, you'll you'll know what happened.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Number sixteen, Yes, it is a classic horror movie, but
it's not better than the Shining Number sixteen is Halloween.
Sure you're right. Number fifteen, don't look now, didn't see
that one?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh oh, that's amazing, and it's that's a grown up
horror film. Takes place in Venice. A couple is mourning
the loss of their daughter. It is messed up.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Number fourteen nos Faratu, a Symphony of horror from twenty two.
In nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, that's the one they got banned because they they
were accused by bram Stoker's The State of ripping off Dracula,
and so that almost disappeared. We almost don't have that today,
but yeah, that belongs there. Number thirteen. I can't argue
with this. It might even be higher on my personal list.
The Silence of the Lambs. Again, whether or not it's
a horror film is up for debate, but it's great.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Number twelve. This is not a horror movie. If anything,
is closer to a love story than it is a
horror movie. King Kong, Oh, they can go soak their
head's a bit. That's a Kaiju movie. Yeah. Number eleven Alien,
I'll allow it, if only because it was billed as
a horror movie in space. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, Alien can do no wrong. Put it way up
on top of every list. It's a masterpiece of any kind.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
The top ten movies of all t as it relates
to the horror genre according to Variety.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
When we come back, you're listening to Later with Moe
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Speaker 2 (25:10):
Let's get this top ten out of the way of
the one hundred best horror movies of all time, according
to Variety. And I'm quite sure this will make everyone
mad or not. We'll see coming in at number ten
and I agree it should be on the list, maybe
top twenty. I don't know if I put it in
the top ten. Carrie nineteen seventy six, boy, that's a
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little overrated.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
It's yeah, it's a decent film and a decent Stephen
King adaptation, but it doesn't belong that far up the list.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Number nine Salo, I've never seen that.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
That's got quite a reputation for being just absolutely unbearably disgusting,
a torture porn. Number eight Frankenstein nineteen thirty one. The
Russian judges will mark you way down if you don't
include that. It's one of the perfunctory ones.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Number seven Audition and see it way way too high.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's slow and slow and slow until it's just unbelievably shocking,
and it's it may be your cup of tea, it
may not. Kind of a movie roshock test. Number six,
Night of the Living Dead. I'll allow it.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yes. Number five Rosemary's Baby, I'll allow it. We can Masterpiece. Yeah,
we could debate whether it should be four, number three, whatever,
but top ten is fine. Yep. Number four Jaws not
a horror? Is it a great movie? Yes? Is it
a classic? Yes? Is it a horror movie? Hell's no.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Fire all of these people who put this list together.
Fire them. That's like saying Star Wars is a war movie.
It really isn't it really isn't. Number three Psycho Yeah, sure, yeah,
a horror film.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I guess so. Because you stabbed someone in a shower,
I guess it's.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Absolutely brilliant, society changing film.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But is it horror in the way that maybe Silence
of the Lambs is psychological. That goes back to the
debate about Hitchcock and his movies. Yeah, yeah, I love
the movie though. Number two The Exorcist, absolutely Yeah. I
think for me personally and what I know about the
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genre generally, that would be by number one, because every
movie since then has tried to duplicate the impact of
the Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It really did change film in general film. It wasn't
just a great horror film. It was a great movie
that transitded the genre.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I am working on a demonic possession project right now,
and I keep trying to not imitate stuff that I
saw in The Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And number one, the greatest horror movie of all time,
according to Variety, is than the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know, that's a fair assessment of that. You could
have it could have been any number of others, But
that is an incredible film, and I think it gets
underrated for the artistry that went into that. Toby Hooper
and again, if you're gonna have Toby Hooper movie on
the list, Poulter guys should be on here as well.
But the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is extremely messed up and
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made a huge splash in the culture when it came out,
and yet for all the reputation that it's amassed, you
never really see that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Much, you know, the glaring omissions from this list. If
you have a Nightmare on Elm Street, if you have
these genre defining movies of a decade or so, I
don't see how you can have a Texas Chainsaw Massacre
and not have ad Jason A Friday the thirteenth somewhere
in the top one hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
At least the first one. Maybe just the first one,
just the first one. Yeah, And where is Where's Luccio Fulci?
Where's the Beyond? And Zombie No? I mean those names
might not mean much to non horror fans, but to
horror fans those are in the mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
How could you have a list of the best horror
movies of all time have a movie like Gremlins on
the list, but not have a movie like Pulture Guys
nineteen eighty two. It's and I'll listen to the argument
that it's not straight horror, but if you know the movie,
there are some definite horror moments in the movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Also, where's Cannibal Holocaust? I'm not making that up either.
It's that was such a shocking film released around nineteen
eighty by an Italian director named Riguiero Diodado. He had
to go to court to prove that it wasn't an
actual snuff film. It's a terribly shocking and it was
the first found footage horror movie as well. No fantasm,
(29:47):
Oh yeah, Don Coscarelli's terrific Phantasm is one of my favorites.
Fantasm or I mean, Coscarelli's done a bunch of really
good stuff. Even his John dies at the end movie
is magnificent. He's an incredible director and doesn't get the
credit he deserves.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Hey, I would put hell Razor one on here. I
would too. Yeah, I hate it when we agree, but
I would too. There are just some obvious omissions here,
like Martyrs, if you want one that was from the
last twenty years, Martyrs.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I got Foosh to watch Martyrs recently, and I think
it kind of did a number on him, and as
it does on everybody who sees it. Thought provoking, original,
and definitely not American because it kind of goes places
that most American mainstream films wouldn't go. Martyrs is terrific
that should be on there, like the Tales from the Crypt,
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some of these older ones from Amicus. Amicus was of
like second only to Hammer films in the seventies.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Last year, we did a list of the one hundred
best movies of all time and it was done by Variety,
and it was probably one of the worst cinematic lists
ever known to humankind. This is the one hundred best
horror movies of all time, also from Variety, and just
quickly perusing it, it might be the second worst list
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of all time. I think it might be worse. It. Well,
let's just get into it so we can show people
exactly what we mean. This is according to Variety, not us,
coming in at number one hundred. I will look to you,
Mark Roner. Most of these movies I don't know, but
the ones I do know, they're wildly out of place
as far as they're ranking.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh there's some stinkers on here. And I gotta warn
you before we really get into the meat of this.
Critics generally are not horror film fans, so you know,
going into this to kind of take it with a
grain of salt. But this is just outright clickbait approaching
rage bait. There are some weird choices on here.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
There are movies on this list which aren't even horror movies. Yes,
we'll get into it. Coming in at number one hundred
of the best horror movies of all time? Repulsion, okay, whatever, Polanski, Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, you know, fine, one hundred, number
ninety nine, Suspiria.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's the best thing our Gento has done. It's a masterpiece.
It should be higher than ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Agree, okay? Ninety eight The Devil's Backbone. Not a big
Ghermo del Toro fan when it comes to horror.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well, it's a worthy movie. But is it in the
top one hundred best of all time? I don't know
about that. Number ninety seven The Haunting, the nineteen sixty
three version, another masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, higher than ninety seven, especially when you look at
some of the stuff that's up higher.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I put it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Just highlight it because we'll come back to that again
and again. I'm trying to not use all the words
we can't use on the radio.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
This is where I about threw my phone across the room,
coming in at number ninety six. Invasion of the Body
Snatchers nineteen seventy eight. For me, it has to be
top ten. It deserves to be far higher than that.
I can listen to arguments like, well, bo, you forgot
about this, okay, and you move it down to twenty,
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but not ninety seven. Don't tell me that there are
ninety five movies which are better, more impactful, more meaningful
to the genre than the nineteen seventy eight version of
Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, especially on this list ninety five Dead Alive, early
Peter Jackson. It's entertaining, but I wouldn't put it on
this list, not on the top one.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Hundred, ninety four event horizon. I personally really like the movie,
it's not top one hundred. I can separate and compartmentalize.
Just because I like something, it doesn't make it great.
You know, I've had that on my rewatch list for
years and now. It didn't leave me with a very
strong impression when I first saw it. Yeah, it was okay.
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And also I have a friend who's in the movie,
so I have an affinity for movies like that. Oh
who the brother of the movie, okay man, Richard Jones.
His name nice number ninety three cat people val Lewton
if you don't know who that is. He was a
producer of Black and white, kind of short B films,
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and I guess generally the forties and fifties, and they're
all just absolutely wonderful. You could pick any one of them,
including cat people. I walked with the Zombie his whole Ouvra,
I guess should be on this list. He's terrific. The
Human Centipede Part two, Yeah, this is where we start
waking the throw chairs. Yeah, better than invasion on the
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body snatches.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, why is this even there? Who's responsible for this?
And why haven't they been fired? Number ninety one Dead
of Night. Didn't see it? Oh, that's good. It's a
British anthology what they call a Portmanteau movie with several
different stories.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You'll be using words like port Monteau.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, that's what they call it. We call them anthology.
Dead of Night's not bad at all.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Number ninety is a page of madness, not familiar. I
didn't know that one either. Eighty nine Horror of Dracula
fifty eight, that should be higher.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's from Hammer Films, that fantastic British company that kind
of flourished from i'd say the late fifties to the
early seventies, and there's a lot of terrific historic hammer
stuff that's not on this list, and that's infuriating, Like
where's the Curse of Frankenstein?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Where is that's not on the list?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Where is Brides of Dracula, which is one of the
all time greatest. Eighty eight Blood Feast Herschel Gordon lewis
the first real true gore film. It belongs on there,
just for historic reasons. Eighty seven The Vanishing I barely
remember it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's good, but if eighty six Village of the Damned
I listened to it, Yeah, yeah, exactly, I don't mind
it being there. Eighty five Reanimator, Yes, I'll just say
on the list. I don't know where. That's fine. Eighty
four Dead Ringers, Okay, Cronenberg.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Here's where we have an issue, because Cronenberg is one
of the masters. Dead Ringers isn't really a horror film,
and you're gonna put Dead Ringers on there, but not
Scanners The Dead.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Bone he did Scanners. Yeah, yeah, that's one of my
favorites as well. I didn't know for some reason, I
didn't make the connection. I can watch Scanners almost anything.
Watched that like two weeks ago. It's your first exploding
Head film. You know what, that's a movie. I would
be open to a remake. I would like to see
that universe expanded. Yes, as a music fan, you have
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to love the Howard Shore Sounds score to Scanners. It's terrific.
Eighty three Little Shop of Horrors. Yeah, I don't know
about that. Is it a horror movie? No, it's a
horror spoof. It's a comedy.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, you've got Little Shop of Horrors, which is from
Roger Corman, but you don't have Corman's Edgar Allan Poe
movies on there, like The Pit and the Pendulum, The
Mask of the Red Death, Go to hell with this.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Eighty two What Lies Beneath That is not a horror movie. Yeah. Again,
people need to be losing their jobs for that one.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Eighty one The wolf Man, Okay, yeah, all the universal
stuff belongs on there. Eighty House of Wax, I remember
some of it. You know, it's kind of a historic. Gimme,
you gotta have it in there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Seventy nine the omen Yes should be higher, agreed. Seventy
eight angst. I didn't know that one.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
That's an obscure choice, and it just kind of goes
to my point that some of these critics are so
jaded they want to kind of show off by throwing
some way out of left field thing in there. If I,
as a lifetime horror fan, have never heard of that,
Your Head's all the way.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Up your tailpipe seventy seven The Blob. I think it's meaningful,
it's relevant. Yeah, seventy six I walked with a zombie. No,
that's another val Luton, the same one as Cat People.
Terrific seventy five The Descent.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, it's kind of a you could accuse them
of recency bias, but the first Descent movie really is
an armed grip of the I'm trying to say, it'll
make you grip the arm of your chair. I took
it to another I took another hardcore horror fan with
me to the critics screening of that way back when
our eyes were both like saucers. By the end of
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that seventy four A Nightmare on Elm Street. I'll put
it on there for this reason. I think it is
genre defining for its time. Yeah, people dig it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Seventy three Blood for Dracula.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Okay, that's one of those two Andy Warhol Dracula and
Frankenstein movies. They were nothing but shocking kind of dirty
stuff for the time. They're not good, actual good horror films.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Seventy two, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Yes, seventy one,
Hostile Part two meaning that Hostile Part one, never mind
absolutely not rot in hell. Whoever put that on there?
And the last one before we go to Break the
Wailing Shutter has that and that's been on my watch
list forever. It's got a good reputation, but I don't
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know it, haven't seen it. When we come back. The
one hundred Best Horror Movies of All Time, picking up
with number sixty nine, it's Later with mo Kelly k
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Speaker 2 (08:31):
We're right in the middle of the list from Variety,
the one hundred best Horror movies of all time, according
to idiots who work at Variety who know nothing about
the genre or movies. They must all be about twelve
years old, and they threw all these names in a
hat and threw it up and down, and then they
just put them on this list randomly. And we're reading
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the order that these twelve year olds came up with,
and I mean that most disrespectfully. Number sixty nine Near Dark,
Catherine Bigelow. Yeah, I don't love that like a lot
of people do. But it's a great horror vampire for
a landmark vampire movie, and I guess it deserves to
be on there. That's some good Lance Henrickson too, by
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the way. Number sixty eight The Sixth Sense, which put M.
Knight Shyamalan on the mat. I don't. I don't think
of this as a horror movie. I think of it
as a psychological thriller. Just because it includes dead people
doesn't make it horror.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I agree with you. And it also is the
one that kind of showed that he M. Knight made
a big splash but turned out to be kind of
a one trick pony for a very long time. Did
sixty seven Possession? You know that has had a growing
reputation right over the decades. Yeah, and what is it Isabella, Johnny?
You think you're right. It didn't leave me with a
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huge impression, but it's one of those movies that's quiet
and quiet and then just shocking.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Sixty six The Baba Duc decent okay. Sixty five The
Incredible Shrinking Man not a horror film?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well yeah, I mean it's an incredible movie based on
a book by Richard Matheson, and I could watch that
any day. It's just it holds up wonderfully. But where's
the horror? Why did they not have enough horror films
to choose from? As I can nay, so they left out?
Then they could have put in instead.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They must have, because as we get further in this list,
you'll realize that this is really not a horror list.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, The Shrinking Man should be on a list of
great sci fi movies.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Sci fi yes. Sixty four Planet Terror, absolutely not Go
to Hell. Sixty three Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde. Sure, sure, right, sure?
Which version though? Which version did they?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
The thirty one version? Okay, yeah, there's several, just pick one. Yeah, yeah,
listen to this though, coming in at number sixty two okay,
of the one hundred best horror movies of all time,
on a list which saw Invasion of the Body Snatchers
at ninety six with Donald Sutherland with one of the
(11:09):
most classic scenes of all time, Jeff Gold It was
a wonderful cast Okay, that was ninety six. Coming in
at number sixty two Grimlins.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, I'm not going to bad mouth Joe Dante. I
think he's a great director, but that doesn't belong there.
It's not a horror movie, not really. No, it's more
a Christmas movie than it is a horror movie.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And it's.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It's just not a horror movie. Whoever put that there
doesn't understand horror.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Sixty one Candy Man. I think it's on the list,
but I will put it closer to one hundred.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Uh, let's just keep moving, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Number sixty Funny Games. Okay, have you seen Funny Games? Now?
I have not. I think you know.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's more suspense than horror, first of all, and there's
more than one version. There's an American version as well.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I just recently watched it because I was morbidly curious
and was like, oh, that's like, what's the most twisted movie?
And a lot of things that came up was Funny Games,
and it's it's pretty rough.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It makes those lists because it's absolutely neilistic and pointless.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Number fifty nine whatever happened to Baby Jane? Never have
seen that either by either by number fifty eight Raw
Eddie Murphy. No, not well, if be a toss up
between that and the Raw that they did include. I'm
not a fan of the Raw that they put on
this list, and I've seen a lot of kind of
if feat Film snobs praised that movie over the years,
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and you were the first person to use feet on
the radio, and it makes me want to punch those
people in the neck.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Number fifty seven Peeping Tom. That's decent, but it's not
a horror film. Powell and Presburger. Yeah, Number fifty six.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't mind this movie, and I don't mind it
in this location. The Fly, the Cronenberg Fly. Yes, yes, yeah,
you know, I just it might even a little higher.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Honestly, it's really a wonderful film, and I just rewatched
it for the first time since it came out recently.
It holds up phenomenal, phenomenally.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, And it's so it's such a sad movie because
you know, it only ends one way, and the ending
just leaves you sitting there with your mouth hanging all this. Yeah, yeah,
it's great. Number fifty five The Cabinet of Doctor Calgary Calgary, Okay, yeah,
you kind of have to have that because it was
one of the first. Uh fifty four, let the right
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one in. I didn't see this one, but I hear
good things about it. Well, there's an American version and
a foreign version, and they're both very good. Number fifty three.
I've never understood this movie. I don't know. I've never
understood the appeal of this movie, but I understand why
as far as horror genre, it's on every list. Eraser Head.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I saw that on a double bill when I was
a teenager with the original Night of the Living Dead,
and I wasn't the same for several days afterward.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's messed up. Fifty two Blood and Black Lace of
sixty four.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Early Mario Baba more of a Giallo than a horror.
But whatever. Compared to some of the other outrages on
this list, it's not that bad. Number fifty one Irreversible, Okay,
do you know that movie?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It is a really intense movie about a rape that
is told backward. I think Gaspernoe was the director. It's
not a horror film. I mean, it's tough to get through,
but it's not a horror film. Number fifty only Baba
on Ebaba on Baba. Yeah, it's a I think Japanese
horror film. It's been years since I've seen it. That's quality.
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Number forty nine The Witch twenty fifteen version, little great inflation,
a little recency bias with that one. It's very good,
but it's not one of the hundred best of all time.
That's that Robert Eggers, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yes, now here is a debate to be had. Number
forty eight Alfred Hitchcock. I don't believe Alfred Hitchcock all
of his stuff was horror. Some of it was more
psychological thriller. I believe for sure. Forty eight The Birds.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, I think The Birds kind of is horror because
you never get an explanation for these bird attacks and
it just abruptly ends. And when you see somebody in
the midst of a bird mailstream getting pecked to death,
that sure is horrific.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Number forty seven it's not a horror movie. It is
literally a different genre. Godzilla the nineteen fifty four version.
It's tragic Godzilla goes to town and destroys the city. But
just because people die doesn't make it a horror movie. Well,
there's your side. Debate.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Is a giant monster Kaiju movie really a horror movie,
I'm not so sure it is.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Number forty six. Yes, it deserves to be on this list,
and yes it deserves to be higher on my list.
The nineteen eighty two movie The Thing, Oh way higher.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, it's brilliant and it was a flop when it
came out, and it's done nothing but gain cred over
the decades. It's I've seen that movie so many times.
I know it chapter and verse.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Number forty five, The Invisible Band, Yes, just because yeaheah.
Number number forty four, Manhunter. I don't know if it's horror,
but it's one of Michael Mann's greatest forty three Vampire
p y r. The Theodore Dryer one thirty two, Carl
Theatre Dryer. Yep, yep, gotta have that number forty two.
I like this movie. I don't know where I would
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place it twenty eight days later. Oh, way too high,
Way too high.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's a quality film and it's it's pretty tense, and
even though the director Danny Boyle insists it not, it's
not zombies, it's zombies.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Number forty one, The Devil's nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, that one's hard to find and it is really
a shocking ordeal of a movie to go through. If
you've never seen that, strap yourself in track down a copy.
It's very good. And make sure you there's several different
versions floating around too. And that's like a side vocation
for people finding different versions of that to watch.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Last one for this break, number forty is Bride of Frankenstein. Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Absolutely one hundred percent should be way up high. It's
Later with mo.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Kelly more of the top one hundred horror movies according
to some twelve year olds at Variety.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
When we come back, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Let's get back to the list of the one hundred
best horror movies of all time according to Variety and
their editors who decided to send in their children to
work and make this list instead of them.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You cannot insult them enough for this. Oh, I have
another two segments to insult them. I have a lot
of real estate to work with. I letter Rip coming
in at number thirty nine. It's a freaking musical quieton,
Are you sure that's a music? I don't think that's
a musical. Oh well, it seems like a musical. No, no,
that's a Japanese horror film. It's okay, okay, so that's
(18:06):
a quality film. They didn't screw up on that particular one, Okay,
I take it back there. Number thirty eight Freaks of
nineteen thirty two. Yeah, that's another one that didn't do
great when it came out, and it kind of destroyed
Todd Browning's career for a while because nobody really wanted
to see actual freaks in a movie. But again, its
(18:27):
reputation picked up over the years and now it's considered
a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Number thirty seven Deep Red Profondo Rosso.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, Dario Argento. I think Suspiria, which is way up higher,
belongs in front of it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Though.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Number thirty six Hereditary, Yeah, another great inflation a recency
bias rather than that doesn't belong that far up.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's good though, shouldn't be on the list at all. Look,
I don't think anything made in the past ten years
should be on this list. I'm being honest. I think
it has to age like wine and let history tell
the story of its impact.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So you know, how like you've been saying, like children
were putting in charge of this list. Whoever was in
charge of writing Hereditary, I think they put their children to.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Let their kids do it.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I thought Hereditary was a decent movie, but it's certainly
not one of the hundred greatest of all time. And
you know, you are just shocked with your mouth hanging
open within the first few minutes of that. And the
ending of Hereditary is also one where you're just kind
of that's a talker when when you're walking out of
the theater. But not not top one hundred material, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Number thirty five. Invasion of the Body Snatcher is the
fifty six version. Absolutely yeah, yep. Number thirty four Evil
Dead Too is better than that. No, it's good. I mean,
everybody loves it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But and I say move it further down though, And
I've written Evil Dead comics, so I'm prone to like it.
But I think they're rating it too high. Number thirty
three M as in the letter M, that's not a
horror film. No, it's okay, it doesn't matter. Number thirty
two The Night of the Hi from nineteen fifty five,
(20:01):
again not a horror film, but an absolutely phenomenal one
off from Charles Lawton, who was an actor and it's
the only film he directed. If you haven't seen that,
just bump it way up to the top of your
watch list. It's great. Number thirty one the Japanese movie Ring.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Whu.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I guess this is what the Ring was based on? Yeah, yeah,
I guess you kind of have that. That was one
of the couple that kicked off the whole Jay horror
tread yep. Number thirty Eyes Without a Face nineteen sixty.
You sends visage. It's not that scary, but I guess
for the time it came out, it was kind of
shocking in terms of its subject matter. It's about a
(20:37):
surgeon who cuts faces off people to put him on,
I think his daughter who's disfigured. But the movie face
off they're distant cousins man, okay. Number twenty nine Phantom
of the Opera, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay? Yeah? Which one? Yep?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The twenty five version. Yeah, there's a hammer version from
I think the late fifties. That's pretty good too.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Isn't that a musical? No? No, not that one? Well adaptation, yeah,
oh yeah, there's that Andrew Lloyd Weber War Crime, which
that's a whole different list. Number twenty eight The wicker Man,
absolutely a masterpiece. Yeah, I'm thinking it might be higher.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, and not the Neil le Butte remake seventy The Bees, Oh,
not the Bees. No, this one is fantastic. It's the
best thing Edward Woodward ever did. And Christopher Lee is
magnificent in it too. Twenty seven Dracula, Yeah, of course,
which Dracula?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Thirty one? Okay, Yeah. Twenty six The Innocence CNTs.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, with Debra Carr. That's a great, great film. I
think it's based on Henry James Turn of the Screw.
If I'm remembering this right, you are. And it's a
ghost story. It's not so much a horror story, but
it's it's really good. Number twenty five.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I guess you could argue it's genre defining for the
decade Scream, but I don't think it's a good movie.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I'm not a fan of that at all. I don't
think it should be on this line.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Look, I could think of a bunch of other slasher
movies which were better than Screen, but it was jonitified.
It should just be lower, way lower. Number twenty four,
Get the f out of here, The Blair Witch Project
nolly garbage, No, That movie was garbage, absolute track. It
was a prank.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Number twenty three Daughter of the Dead, Yeah, one hundred
percent deserves to be very high on any list. That
that changed pop culture, and I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Twenty two Carnival of Souls.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I say, yes, well that's where Romero, George Romero got
the idea for a night of a living dead. It's
very spooky, not very scary. Number twenty one Black Sunday
didn't see this one?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is that another problem? Yeah? I think that's an early yellow,
not very scary. Number twenty. It was a good movie,
but I don't know if it's one of the top
one hundred and it's Yeah, I guess it's horror get out.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
No way should that be anywhere near this high if
it's even on the list?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, I look, I thought it was a nice twist,
you know, in the movie. But whatever now. Number nineteen
The Mummy, Yeah, which one thirty two? Uh huh? Number
eighteen We have not seen a lot from this creator
the Shining. Not a lot of Stephen King on this
(23:16):
list as in Nune No, and Stephen King hates Stanley
Kubrick's version. Yes she does. There was a TV movie
made of it mini series is Stephen Weber. A few
years later that King actually liked Number seventeen. The Abolique, Yeah,
very good.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It's it's a little slow, but once you get to
the scare, you'll you'll know what happened.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Number sixteen, Yes, it is a classic horror movie, but
it's not better than the Shining Number sixteen is Halloween.
Sure you're right. Number fifteen, don't look now, didn't see
that one?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh oh, that's amazing, and it's that's a grown up
horror film. Takes place in Venice. A couple is mourning
the loss of their daughter. It is messed up.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Number fourteen nos Faratu, a Symphony of horror from twenty two.
In nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, that's the one they got banned because they they
were accused by bram Stoker's The State of ripping off Dracula,
and so that almost disappeared. We almost don't have that today,
but yeah, that belongs there. Number thirteen. I can't argue
with this. It might even be higher on my personal list.
The Silence of the Lambs. Again, whether or not it's
a horror film is up for debate, but it's great.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Number twelve. This is not a horror movie. If anything,
is closer to a love story than it is a
horror movie. King Kong, Oh, they can go soak their
head's a bit. That's a Kaiju movie. Yeah. Number eleven Alien,
I'll allow it, if only because it was billed as
a horror movie in space. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, Alien can do no wrong. Put it way up
on top of every list. It's a masterpiece of any kind.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
The top ten movies of all t as it relates
to the horror genre according to Variety.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
When we come back, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Let's get this top ten out of the way of
the one hundred best horror movies of all time, according
to Variety. And I'm quite sure this will make everyone
mad or not. We'll see coming in at number ten
and I agree it should be on the list, maybe
top twenty. I don't know if I put it in
the top ten. Carrie nineteen seventy six, boy, that's a
(25:31):
little overrated.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
It's yeah, it's a decent film and a decent Stephen
King adaptation, but it doesn't belong that far up the list.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Number nine Salo, I've never seen that.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
That's got quite a reputation for being just absolutely unbearably disgusting,
a torture porn. Number eight Frankenstein nineteen thirty one. The
Russian judges will mark you way down if you don't
include that. It's one of the perfunctory ones.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Number seven Audition and see it way way too high.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's slow and slow and slow until it's just unbelievably shocking,
and it's it may be your cup of tea, it
may not. Kind of a movie roshock test. Number six,
Night of the Living Dead. I'll allow it.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yes. Number five Rosemary's Baby, I'll allow it. We can Masterpiece. Yeah,
we could debate whether it should be four, number three, whatever,
but top ten is fine. Yep. Number four Jaws not
a horror? Is it a great movie? Yes? Is it
a classic? Yes? Is it a horror movie? Hell's no.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Fire all of these people who put this list together.
Fire them. That's like saying Star Wars is a war movie.
It really isn't it really isn't. Number three Psycho Yeah, sure, yeah,
a horror film.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I guess so. Because you stabbed someone in a shower,
I guess it's.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Absolutely brilliant, society changing film.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But is it horror in the way that maybe Silence
of the Lambs is psychological. That goes back to the
debate about Hitchcock and his movies. Yeah, yeah, I love
the movie though. Number two The Exorcist, absolutely Yeah. I
think for me personally and what I know about the
(27:22):
genre generally, that would be by number one, because every
movie since then has tried to duplicate the impact of
the Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It really did change film in general film. It wasn't
just a great horror film. It was a great movie
that transitded the genre.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I am working on a demonic possession project right now,
and I keep trying to not imitate stuff that I
saw in The Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And number one, the greatest horror movie of all time,
according to Variety, is than the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know, that's a fair assessment of that. You could
have it could have been any number of others, But
that is an incredible film, and I think it gets
underrated for the artistry that went into that. Toby Hooper
and again, if you're gonna have Toby Hooper movie on
the list, Poulter guys should be on here as well.
But the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is extremely messed up and
(28:25):
made a huge splash in the culture when it came out,
and yet for all the reputation that it's amassed, you
never really see that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Much, you know, the glaring omissions from this list. If
you have a Nightmare on Elm Street, if you have
these genre defining movies of a decade or so, I
don't see how you can have a Texas Chainsaw Massacre
and not have ad Jason A Friday the thirteenth somewhere
in the top one hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
At least the first one. Maybe just the first one,
just the first one. Yeah, And where is Where's Luccio Fulci?
Where's the Beyond? And Zombie No? I mean those names
might not mean much to non horror fans, but to
horror fans those are in the mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
How could you have a list of the best horror
movies of all time have a movie like Gremlins on
the list, but not have a movie like Pulture Guys
nineteen eighty two. It's and I'll listen to the argument
that it's not straight horror, but if you know the movie,
there are some definite horror moments in the movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Also, where's Cannibal Holocaust? I'm not making that up either.
It's that was such a shocking film released around nineteen
eighty by an Italian director named Riguiero Diodado. He had
to go to court to prove that it wasn't an
actual snuff film. It's a terribly shocking and it was
the first found footage horror movie as well. No fantasm,
(29:47):
Oh yeah, Don Coscarelli's terrific Phantasm is one of my favorites.
Fantasm or I mean, Coscarelli's done a bunch of really
good stuff. Even his John dies at the end movie
is magnificent. He's an incredible director and doesn't get the
credit he deserves.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Hey, I would put hell Razor one on here. I
would too. Yeah, I hate it when we agree, but
I would too. There are just some obvious omissions here,
like Martyrs, if you want one that was from the
last twenty years, Martyrs.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I got Foosh to watch Martyrs recently, and I think
it kind of did a number on him, and as
it does on everybody who sees it. Thought provoking, original,
and definitely not American because it kind of goes places
that most American mainstream films wouldn't go. Martyrs is terrific
that should be on there, like the Tales from the Crypt,
(30:40):
some of these older ones from Amicus. Amicus was of
like second only to Hammer films in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Before we get out of here, since we've been talking
about horror movies, we have to remind you of the
later with Mo Kelly pre Halloween Soire which is coming
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We got a little help here. Wendy's is one of
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(31:10):
it's coming together good news every single day, so we're
gonna get fed that much. I do know again, the
only way you're going to get into this party is
to know Tuala Shark because he is the gatekeeper. We
had some employees walk in tonight said hey, can we
come to the party. I said, you have to get
Twalla's permission. Don't bring it to me. You got to
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(31:31):
then you can go. But this will be the hottest
ticket in the history of the station and it's going
to be October thirtieth. And if you don't get Twalla's permission,
that means you have to win to get in. As
in name that movie called Classic, the game that we
play each and every Friday, where you choose the clip,
I should say, you choose the number which corresponds to
(31:52):
a clip, and then we'll play the movie and you
get to guess the movie. That's how you're going to
get into the party. We're not advertising it. We're not
handing out passes to people who don't love us. We're
not handing out passes. Just you know, we're gonna give
way passes to night. No, we're not going to do that.
You got to come through to Walla Shark. That's it.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Please tell me Wendy's is supplying you and Toula with
Wendy costumes.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
We can do that. I need to see that. Yeah,
we're gonna put the wig on Twala, you know, looking
like Pippy Longstock exactly what it was happening right now
where all this is coming from.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
That's not happening. So I actually have a nice little dress. Yeah, okay, Mark,
that's all you. I have actually come up with with
what I'm gonna do and it's it's gonna be really
really cool.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah. See, I'm I'm just functional Halloween. I need to
be able to move around, and it has to be
not distracting. It has to be real simple. I might
come as a paper bag or something like that. I
really need to see the two of you in pigtails.
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, man, that that that that goes beyond the making
it weird.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Okay, I'm in the show. Yeah, okay, talk about a
horror movie. I think you need to go to your
room and just think about your life for a while. Yeah,
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