April 18, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the latest incident of violence connected to LA Metro with news of yet another Metro station stabbing…PLUS – A recap of KFI reporter Michael Monks' coverage of the Menendez Brothers resentencing hearing at the Van Nuys courthouse - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
KFI AM six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly. We're
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and of course on
YouTube at mister mo'kelly. The video speed video feed is live,
so you can see everything that's going on in the studio,
and you'll want to see what's going on because at
the bottom of the hour, I'll be joined by cafi's
own Michael Monks, who was following in person the Menindez trial.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, there was a postponement, but there's.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
More to tell you about what has been going on
behind the scenes and what we should expect in the
future come May ninth, when the trial or the hearing,
i should say, resume. So Michael will be joining us. Well,
I don't know if he's going to be joining us
as soon. As a matter of fact, I think he
might be remote, but he will be joining the show
at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Also, we do have the.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Most mispronounced words and names for twenty twenty five, and
given it's only April of twenty twenty five, I'm surprised
they have a twenty twenty five list. But that's the
list and I've looked it over. It's it's reasonable there's
some words that reaffirm that we're idiots.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Designation. Are you gonna have Tauala read the list?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
No, I'll read it, but then we'll ask Tuala if
he has an alternate pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Tuala's name pronunciations are some of the most entertaining content
on KFI.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No, you should see the way that people try to
spell his name. Oh that too, Yeah, Oh my goodness,
I've seen t u a l l A tw A
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bunch of places. You can find out how the man
spells his name. Yeah, and it's real funny. When people
want to reach out to me, they say, mum as
in m Oe. So don't you see my handle is
(02:03):
at mister mo Kelly and I spell it every damn
night m R m O K E l L Y.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
What in mister Kelly? Says m Oe. Oh, we're all
in the same club. People have messed up my name,
my entire life, every graduation, everything you're talking about ronner
ro O N and e R. Yeah, you're in the
ballpark whatever. I don't even care. I'm going to become
a Muslim and change it to X and just be done.
With it, Mark X, we'll just support you even sooner now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I actually X is getting overused lately, so I got
to figure something else out.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You do, Mark, Oh, Marco? Hello? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And Tuala, I knew this. I knew you were going
to put this, Toy, I saw that. I knew you're
gonna put this story. We recently had the all female
astronaut Blue Origin, the Shepherd Capsule Launch whatever you want
to call it, with Gail King and Katy Perry and
some other women on there.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
There's a new conspiracy theory where it didn't happen at all.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was like a capricorn one type of situation, and
there were some clues that people were pointing to. It's like,
wait a minute, how did that just come back from space?
And the door's already open exactly. So that is something
we're going to look into. If George Nori hasn't already
looked into it, I'm surprised. We know we're gonna be
the first. Okay, we're gonna be the first. We're breaking
(03:27):
it wide open, all right, all right, I'm gonna bust
it wide open like they say.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes. Oh, and by the way, there was a stabbing
this morning going to Metro.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, we've been stabbing in a while.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I know we got a little too complacent and someone
got their ass stabbed this morning. It was about rush
hour and it was in Pasadena. I know, that's what
really neara Madre area ish.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah. Yeah, So Metro is back to metroing.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
We're right on schedule for the Carlss Olympics coming up
in twenty twenty eight. We're all gonna be using the
Metro and we're all all gonna get stabbed. No, can
we wear pads? Will they arrest us if we wear
like bulletproof vests?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I think that is illegal. Mark, you did a cop beat,
you may know.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh, what's the question? Is it legal to wear like
kevlar where? Just in general public enough that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That's what I thought. I didn't think you could. So
we just have to risk No. No, But see, the
thing is, it's not like anyone's gonna know. It's not
like you have like a Kevlar Levi or you know.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I just look, I just when we go car free,
I don't want to get stabbed.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I may have to catch that metro.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Then just don't get on the metro. If you don't
want to get stabbed. There's an easy way not to
die in the plane crash. Don't get on the plane.
There's an easy way not to get stabbed on the metro.
Don't get on the metro.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, how the hell are we going to get around
in a car free twenty twenty eight Olympic Zone.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, that's what we were talking about last night. I'm
just gonna stay home and watch the games on my TV.
It's kind of like the answer to everything. I don't
want to get caught up in the hustle and bustle
of the movie theater and people kicking the back of
my chair. How do I solve that? I stay my
ass home and watch it on streaming. It's a very
very simple proposition. Do I want to necessarily get ronored
by Mark Ronald when I'm out there driving? I try
to stay off the freeways as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
If you don't drive like a horrible human being, you
will not be given a one finger salute.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, that's very, very, very subjective.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know, you may think that my driving is awful,
but I happen to think is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
If you practice good citizenship on the road, you got
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's the most beautiful driving you've ever seen. It's really
beautifulst is it?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yes? Because I said so.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, I'm also glad that there's nothing wrong with your
self esteem.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
This is good news. All a wrong. I've never lacked
for self confidence. I can say that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm pretty sure I never have lacked for that, and
maybe to the point of being a fault. Yes, but
I don't think so. Yes, I don't think so. We're
not there yet, that's all. That's all. That's my worst quality.
Are you sure you're the best judge of that?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yes I am, Yes, I am.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It is subjective, but my judgment is usually the best judgment.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Whatever you say. And Stephan is here, Stephan, what's this?
You're not gonna be You're not gonna be with us
on Monday? I will not again.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think he's dating someone else. Okay, I really do.
What's her name? Uh huh, that's what I thought? That pause?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Is she at least cute? It's Sophia? Wait? Wait? Whoa wait, God,
wait the Sofia that we know? The caller Sofia.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh there's more than one, Sofia. I just wanted to separate.
You know's Sophia.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
You're trying to throw us off the scin you got
something going on.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I wish I doubt that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
See he's so very humble, you know, he's self deprecating itself.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That was the latest like that.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They probably aren't trying to get on the phone right now.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh foosh, we love you. We heard all the calls.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh they see that Acentinian with the green eyes, Like,
what's his name?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, that's Stephan.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Look at this new Go Tea Cuddies guy. Yeah, yeah,
cut his hair and everything. I look, yeah, man, makeover.
It's got to be for somebody. That's not an answer.
That's a laugh.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, I you're not full of us.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Try to keep it clean. Oh that's what they call it.
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and on YouTube. When we come back, we'll tell
you about the latest Metro stabbing and why it happened,
at least to the best of our knowledge.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app as well as YouTube
at mister mo Kelly. You can tune in and see
the live feed right now. Had a question from the
live feed chat wondering whether I was agoraphobic. We had
briefly talked about the subway, and we're getting ready to
talk about it now as far as the Pasadena Metro
station where they had a stabbing earlier this morning. And
(07:55):
I was talking about how I didn't necessarily want to
ride the subway, and the question was asked, Mo, are
you a go or phobic?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I said, I said no.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I would say I'm increasing in my claustrophobia as I
get older.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's not like an irrational fear.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's not like I'm going to break out in a
cold sweat or I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Really nervous. It's just it just makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't like to be in tightly packed crowds. I
don't mind, like if you put me at Coachella, for example,
it doesn't bother me, it doesn't bother me at all.
But the idea of being on a very very tightly
packed bus makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Not fearful, but uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Because as we talk about these situations, whether there's a
stabbing or something like that. I get uncomfortable with the
idea that if something jumps off, I will not have
any ability to really protect myself because you can't.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Run, you can't really go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You're subject to the circumstances whatever's happening at the time.
So that's about the only way I can describe it.
But yeah, I would have a I would have a fear.
And Mark is probably gonna laugh at this. No, never, Yeah,
I would have a fear though, because I do have
a dream from time to time. I wouldn't say it's recurring,
but there is more than once where I ended up
in a chimney, and that does scare the Bejesus out
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of me.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
One of your sent to nightmares.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, it's just like you're being in the chimneys, like
you can't climb out of it. Most likely you can't
back your way out through the fireplace a chimney. Yeah, look,
it's a dream. Don't try to make sense out of nonsense.
It's a chimney odd and it is odd. And I
think about like I wouldn't be able to breathe, I
wouldn't be able to move. You know, it's like Bruce Willis,
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feel like you're a microwave dinner.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Is this a Gremlins nightmare that was set in? I
don't know you. I never have weird dreams.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I mean, from being caught pooping in public to being
stuck in a chimney. Okay, I'm sorry, Metro stabbing right.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
In any of these dreams? Are you pooping in the chimney? No, no,
excuse me.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The Sierra Madre Metro passenger station was closed most of today.
They were investigating a stabbing incident, and from what I understand,
the person who was stabbed was taken to a hospital
and listed.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
In critical condition.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
One person was arrested for what I can read here,
but there's not a lot of information as far as
what preceded the event, whether the two people knew each other,
whether there was an altercation between two people who didn't
know each other, whether it was someone who was waiting
(10:39):
for a trade and someone else just follow him or
her onto the on the platform. Now it said the
victim is in his mid thirties and suffered several stab wounds.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That sounds kind of personal.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It didn't seem like it was a momentary occurrence or
was a crime of opportunity. But that's the only thing
I can glean from it, and it says quote Metro
is grateful to the La Sheriff's Department who found and
assisted a person on the pedestrian bridge leading to the
Sierra Madre station on the A Line after that person
was injured following an apparent altercation. So it's not even
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clear whether it was connected to Metro or someone was
trying to get away from someone and was going towards Metro.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
But the magnet to this crime, to this stabbing, to
this violence is still the metronetic pole of Metro.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, no, and violence invariably. And this will be my question.
From what we understand, La County Sheriff Sheriff's Department intervened.
I know, if they had dedicated Metro police, they would
have already been there.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Now maybe the.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Metro of the La County Sheriff happened to already be
on the platform. I doubt it because from when I
was riding Metro, that's not what they did. Every once
in a while they would come through and ride the
train and they get off like two stops later, but
they weren't just sitting on the trains and sitting on
the platforms. They would just ride from here to there.
But you know it's another stabbing. Yeah, we talk about
(12:19):
the robberies of seven eleven, what's the consistent variable seven
to eleven? We talk about the crime on Metro. What's
the consistent variable Metro. I feel the same way now
as I did maybe two years ago when we started
talking about this. The crime is not a matter of
statistics but specifics. The crime is still happening on these platforms,
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on these buses, on these trains, and there's seemingly nothing
they can do about it, or there's nothing they could
do to mitigate it.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The way things are at the moment.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
At the moment, more funding to go towards more officers,
not more ambassadors. More officers is the only its answer.
I love the idea of your lock them in doors
or whatever they are called. The turnstiles were not the turnstiffs,
but then you have to pay the exit.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh yeah, exit.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
That did not prevent this individual from getting up to
the platform to stab some one. So all that didn't
do anything.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I know.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They're putting in metal detectors on certain buses or stations, whatever,
that didn't do anything to stop this individual from getting
up and stabbing someone.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, this was on the bridge to the platform.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, so as far as we're concerned, it's still a
part of the general public, but still the common variable.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I'm gonna get this individual on the Metro, even if
it's something that started out on the street it led
to Metro because that's obviously a safe place to get
away or something.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I don't know, right, it wasn't like the assailant was worried.
Let me back up.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yes, I'm glad they caught the person, but clearly the
person wasn't worried about being caught leading up until that point,
because they wouldn't have tried to stab them. Yes, I
can't a good conscience get on the Metro right now.
I couldn't say to my wife, you know what, it'll be, okay,
the odds of you getting stabbed or one in thirty five,
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you know, don't even worry about it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Just go ahead and get on the train.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
You know, don't stand too close to the platform and
make sure that no one stands close to you because
he or shere they may have a knife, for a
gun or some other blunt object.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Right now the odds are closer to one in one.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Do you really want to play those odds? I mean,
do you want to play the lottery with?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You know what, on this day, nothing bad is going
to happen because it's not like it's happening at midnight,
or I should say it's not only happening at midnight,
it's happening during rush hour. You know how many people
might have been on that platform at seven forty five
in the morning, A bunch. Why because it's a workday
and seven forty five is a high traffic period. I
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know this for I would get on the subway at
six fifteen am in Long Beach and it'd take me
to about eight am, almost eight to fifteen to get
here in Burbank. All that time the trains are packed.
Why because it's morning rush hour. So if this could
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happen at morning rush hour, then everyone is at risk,
every single person, your mother, your wife, your child, your teenager, elderly, grandparent,
able body. Meant every single person because and you understand this,
Tuala you, the stabbing may not have anything to do
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with you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
You could just be wrong place, wrong time.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You could be that innocent bystander who unfortunately gets caught
up because you're just there.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh yeah, like you.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I well, maybe not like you, because you chose to
catch the train into work to say of time and
injury on the commute. I didn't actually start driving until
late in life. I didn't start driving until I was
into my twenties. So I was on the bus the
entire time. And I'm telling you, every time I got
on the bus there was that not a fear, but
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that awareness that some violence could absolutely happen on this bus.
I absolutely believe wholeheartedly that more can be done to
protect passengers on the Metro and until such a time,
maybe allow Metro riders to carry mace. Maybe they need
a special you know, metro weapon for riders. I don't know,
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because again, like my son who today, I wasn't able
to give them a ride home from work. So it
was like, look, hopefully you can get a ride home
with your friends, and it's like that secondary thought of.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Now, if not, you can catch the bus.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And I immediately scratched out and said no, no, no, no, no.
You're either gonna come with me or you're gonna get
a ride home with your friends. Well too there was
no bus in between. Right, you don't want wrong place,
wrong time, and who wants to play those percentages? I'm not,
I'm not not. Just too convenience myself.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Could I save some money and maybe some time by
taking public transportation?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Probably? But there's something I remember. I never closed my eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I never took a nap on the subway, even though
I was dog tired. Why because something could jump off
at any time. Yep, anytime. Sometimes it did, maybe not majorly,
but still you always have to have your wits about
you when someone might get stabbed, presumably or worse.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Were going to catch up speaking of law and order
with Michael Monks and find out the latest on the
Menendez hearing today. Are they any closer to freedom? We'll
find out in just a moment.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Live on the iHeartRadio app and also YouTube, and joining
us now from the iHeartRadio Studios in downtown Los Angeles
is kfi's own Michael Monks.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Michael, good evening.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Thank you for spending your whole day, your literal whole day,
covering the Menindez brothers. First, you were down at the
Van Eys courthouse. Now you're talking to me. We know
from published news reports that the hearing has been postponed
until May ninth.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But I'm quite sure there was more to the day,
was there not?
Speaker 7 (18:22):
No, this was a wild day in Van Nuys. Actually,
most of us who showed up there to cover it
very early this morning anticipated being there all day to day,
but also back there again tomorrow. And I think fans
and family of the Menindez brothers were chomping at the
bit that this might be a real shot at freedom.
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But the day got off to a very strange start
because word had come out last night that La County
District Attorney Nathan Hawkman had suggested that maybe we should
delay this thing. He felt emotion to that effect. We
didn't know why exactly, But when he showed up before
entering court this morning, came over and talked all of us,
holding microphones in his face, which he likes to do,
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and he says, I got my hands on this risk
assessment report that the State Parole Board has been working
on per the order of Governor Newsom, related to the
Menindez brothers, and I don't think the judge has it,
and I don't think the defense team has it, and
I think they should have it. So to give us
time to review it, I filed emotion to do just that.
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Let's take a break and let's look at it. That
was the first little kink that we had in the
day's events, because when they go into Courtney argues this,
the judge has no We're proceeding. But later in the
morning the judge halts everything and says we need to
take a long recess because we need to get clarity
from the state on whether anybody else is allowed to
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read this document. And that's where things really started to
get weird.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I actually air on the side of the family who
want the Menindez brother's release, in the sense that if
you were in the court room and you have a
shot or a chance, even though slight as it may be,
you got a chance. And I think the Menindez brothers,
against my wishes, have a chance to be set free. Now,
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did this from what you could glead, did this continuance
this postpone met? How was that received by the Menindez
brothers and their council?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Not well? Not well at all.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
In fact, it was very strange to hear their defense attorney,
Mark Geragos after the fact, and we already know he
thinks the district attorney has it out for the Menindez
brothers for whatever reason, rather than just prosecuting this game
straight down the line. But it got real intense afterwards.
First of all, Garigo suggested that Hakman was using this
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document from the parole board as a weapon. You know,
some of the family members said they thought they were
going to have to testify and be cross examined on
the contents of a document no one had ever seen before.
Of course that's not going to happen and not been
admitted into court, but they were saying this on the
record with the support of their defense team. So that
was very, very strange. But what ended up happening was
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Garagoscot so angry that the second kink in the day appeared,
a second motion, one that Garago says he's going to
file to have Nathan Hockman booted off this case, to
have the entire case stripped away from the La County
District Attorney's office. And he says he's going to file
that very soon. So when May ninth rolls around, It
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won't be a hearing on whether the Menindez brothers should
be resentenced. It will be consideration of these two issues.
One can this report from the State Parole Board be
admitted into this case involving the resentencing? And two should
Nathan Hakman be recused from this case?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You basically answered my next question I was going to ask.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
How large does it loom that it's Nathan Hockman on
this case in a not George Gone, who's seemingly had
a very different level of appreciation my word for the
Menindez brother's story.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I think what George Gascone, the previous La County District
Excuse me, I'm sorry if my mic broke up a
little bit there. The previous La County District attorney saw
an opportunity for his failing reelection campaign. He saw an
increase in popularity there for the Menindez brothers because of
some Netflix broadcast, and I think he might have tried
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to cash in a little bit as a hail Mary
to save his failing reelection campaign and obviously didn't work.
He was trounced in the November election by Nathan Hackman.
Hawkman has presided over this case in a way that
I've even said to Hawkman himself that it feels a
bit like a law school class because he never just
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comes out and releases a statement. You're always going to
be sitting there in front of him for about forty
five minutes while he meanders through all of the murky
underneath of the law and explains all of the different
paths He did that even today, it's never right to
the point, never giving the sound bite right away that
you need to follow your story. It's always a full
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explanation of the law. But one thing is clear. Nathan
Hackman believes Eric and Leuman Indez committed a heinous crime.
They murdered their parents in cold blood. They premeditatedly murdered them.
They lied about it, They lied again about it, they
lied again about it. They had an ever evolving story,
and even now, he says, even though they're arguing that
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they have new evidence that supports their allegations of sexual
abuse and that they acted in self defense, they have
not fully owned up to what they did to their
parents in Beverly Hills in nineteen eighty nine, and they
have not expressed a level of remorse that is sufficient
to him, and that is far different than what you
saw from a more sympathetic George Gascon.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Before we go to break, let me just ask a
question as a far to that, what difference does it
or should it make that the Menindez brothers show contrition
when we're talking about resentencing, we're not talking about a
parole board hearing.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If that makes any difference.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
It does, because again, there are three different paths that
the menindez Is are currently seeking, all at the same time.
They're fighting on all fronts. Today was about resentencing. When
they were originally sentenced in nineteen ninety six, it was
to life in prison without parole. A re sentencing could
drop that down to fifty years to life, and because
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they were under the age of twenty six at the
time of the killing, they could be eligible for immediate parole.
So that's very, very important. But one of the considerations
is their rehabilitation. One of the other avenues they're seeking
is a new trial that hasn't moved forward yet. Nathan
Hoffman also opposes that, and the third one is potential
(24:56):
clemency from Governor Newsom, which would require the involvement of
the Parole Board. And that's where today's document came from.
So now you've got a couple of these avenues intermingling
and kind of screwing with each other.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Michael Monks, you have enlightened us to such a great
degree about what seemingly was a non event today. But
there's a lot underneath just the news that the resentencing
has been postponed.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I want to talk to you one more segment. If
you've got time for us, sure, it's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Cafi's own Michael Monks, who's been reporting on the Menindez
resentencing hearing, joins us. You know, join us again on
the other side of the break. We're live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app and on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's mo Kelly and also on YouTube at mister mo
Kelly Live everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. I'm
right in the middle of a conversation with kfi's own
Michael Monks, who spent the better part of the day
we were basically pasting each other. In fact, Michael Monks
almost hit me in the garage day. Try to run
me down. I was mind of my own business. I
thought I had right away walking from my car to
(26:04):
the stairwell and Michael came to a screeching halt, and.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You looked a little suspicious, and then he gave me
a runner and said, why am I in his path?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I didn't know we were going to have this conversation
tonight or not. Just because of that, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I am a very pedestrian conscious, though I promise you
I would not have run over you. That's I might
have had the thought you the long day.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, you say that because you know that all of
Southern California's listening right now.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You just want to put that on the record.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I don't want to be suspected in anything, but I'm
trying to be employee of the Monthy do they still
do that?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Okay, I saw you one it once. You're still on
the plot.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah. Yeah, It's one of my finest moments in my life.
I got to say that in my career.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But to be serious, we were talking about the Menindez
Brothers and I was wondering. I asked, like, does it
really matter if it's Nathan Hawkman or George Gascon, and
there's an argument to be made that this might have
gone very differently if George Gascone were still are La
County DA. But beyond that, when we get back on
(27:05):
May ninth, there's no real reason to be able to
forecast how these motions are going to play out. But
do you get a sense of any momentum after today?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
I was trying to think about this, like who won today,
and it doesn't look like anybody did because and I'll
tell you something else that was really interesting this event.
They announced that, Hey, if you're just from the public,
but you want to sit in the courtroom and watch this,
we're going to have a lottery basically a raffle, and
(27:36):
we'll pull the numbers out and if your number is called,
you'll have a seat in the courtroom. And when they
did this months ago, when these hearings first started, it
was a madhouse. There were sixteen seats available today in
that raffle, and I think there were just barely more
than that who showed up for them. So the sort
(27:58):
of allure of this thing has worn off in terms
of who's showing up. There weren't any protesters. There was
one person running around saying, you know, shouting free them
and indez and I think there was a live stream
involved with that, so who knows what that person was doing.
But it was not a madhouse. It was mostly just
guys like me, you know, holding microphones with pens and
notebooks and trying to report on what was going on.
(28:21):
But the public interest, I don't know if it has waned,
because it is still an interesting story. I think that's indisputable.
These guys have been part of our lives for three
decades and a lot recently after years of no one
really thinking about them, but nobody really showed up for
them today, or showed up for this event. I thought
that was the first interesting thing I saw, and then
(28:43):
the real interesting stuff started in the courtroom. So as
far as who won today, I don't know. I think
both parties left kind of angry. I think it got
kind of heated. Some of the reporting I've read from
my colleagues indicates that it got pretty heated in the courtroom.
We're challenged because if you're there on the scene, you
can't actually go into the courtroom. They take everything from you,
(29:03):
They take your phone from you. You can't send any
messages out, so we kind of stayed outside and waited
for updates that way, so I didn't get to see
the actual court reports indicate it got heated in there.
I think this was like if we put it into
a sports event. This was just like a bad basketball game.
Nobody was making any shots and it was just brutal.
(29:24):
And now we have to go to overtime and watch
more of it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Speaking of how the Menindas brothers have been part of
our lives, even in a distance since for more than
thirty years, I wonder about the larger evolution of how
the media may impact the courtroom. What I mean by
that is I think of the free Britney movement, how
Britney spears and her well was it her her resership conservativeship, yes,
(29:52):
where she was being overseen by her family, and how
that changed because of media and also documentaries and what
have you. I think about R Kelly and how it
wasn't until you had these dueling documentaries talking about, you know,
surviving R Kelly that the legal end began to change.
And I can think about this and public statements made
(30:15):
by Kim Kardashian and others about the Menindez plight and
their case and how that's led I think in great
degree to this what we're seeing now. More philosophical question,
what do you think the media has done, either done
well or even done to its own detriment to shape
(30:35):
what is important in the courtroom these days?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Well, regardless of the score you might give the media,
and not really the news media, mostly the creative, the
entertainment media that has been created around the story of
the Menindezes. It has absolutely led us to this occasion,
There's no question about it. Have you ever imagined in
your life that a fifteen year old would suddenly become
a total stan of Eric and lyleman Indez right possible
(31:01):
because of this new media that existed, the documentary and
the docuseries that came out on streaming, and George gas
Snollan acknowledged that. Nathan Hoffman has acknowledged that, And I
think the Menindez brothers must be eternally grateful, regardless of
what they think of their portrayals, they have to be
grateful that that media exists, because it turned the tide
and got them, has gotten them this far. They may
(31:23):
not get out, but the only reason they have a
fighting chance at all is because of the rise and
their profile because of that media. What I was thinking
today was, you know, I was a kid when the
Menindez brothers were in the news, and I remember that,
you know what I mean, And I'm thinking, what if
my life had kind of stopped as I know it.
(31:44):
But I'm still alive, but I'm kind of confined like
they are in prison. Nineteen ninety six was a pretty
peak year. I think humanity kind of peaked there in
the mid to late nineties. We had a little bit
of Internet culture was pretty good. I think all music
genres were really at their peak. A bad time to
like have the last memory of America. But I wonder
(32:06):
what it will be like for them if they do
get out to be like nineties guys and re released
on the streets in twenty twenty five America. It's it's
quite a different place.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It is not an impossibility, And I think that is
the takeaway. They have not a great chance, but more
than no chance at all.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That's exactly right, Michael Monks.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
We appreciate you spinning your whole life down there today
and you'll probably do it again on May ninth, but
until that time, thank you for what you do.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Just stay out of the way of my pathfinder.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I'll do my best.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's that or or take the subway and might get
still run down by you somehow.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Someway. You know me.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
That is my preferred mode of transportation. But they made
me drive that company car and it's very big and scary,
Yes it is. It's scared that Jesus out of me today.
Have a safe I'll probably see them all. But if
I don't see you, have a safe weekend. You do
the same, can if I am six forty. We're live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app A F I.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
N K O S T h D two Los Angeles,
Orange County, live everywhere on the Younger Radio
KFI AM six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly. We're
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and of course on
YouTube at mister mo'kelly. The video speed video feed is live,
so you can see everything that's going on in the studio,
and you'll want to see what's going on because at
the bottom of the hour, I'll be joined by cafi's
own Michael Monks, who was following in person the Menindez trial.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, there was a postponement, but there's.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
More to tell you about what has been going on
behind the scenes and what we should expect in the
future come May ninth, when the trial or the hearing,
i should say, resume. So Michael will be joining us. Well,
I don't know if he's going to be joining us
as soon. As a matter of fact, I think he
might be remote, but he will be joining the show
at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Also, we do have the.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Most mispronounced words and names for twenty twenty five, and
given it's only April of twenty twenty five, I'm surprised
they have a twenty twenty five list. But that's the
list and I've looked it over. It's it's reasonable there's
some words that reaffirm that we're idiots.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Designation. Are you gonna have Tauala read the list?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
No, I'll read it, but then we'll ask Tuala if
he has an alternate pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Tuala's name pronunciations are some of the most entertaining content
on KFI.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No, you should see the way that people try to
spell his name. Oh that too, Yeah, Oh my goodness,
I've seen t u a l l A tw A
l l A. It's like, look, it's posted in a
bunch of places. You can find out how the man
spells his name. Yeah, and it's real funny. When people
want to reach out to me, they say, mum as
in m Oe. So don't you see my handle is
(02:03):
at mister mo Kelly and I spell it every damn
night m R m O K E l L Y.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
What in mister Kelly? Says m Oe. Oh, we're all
in the same club. People have messed up my name,
my entire life, every graduation, everything you're talking about ronner
ro O N and e R. Yeah, you're in the
ballpark whatever. I don't even care. I'm going to become
a Muslim and change it to X and just be done.
With it, Mark X, we'll just support you even sooner now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I actually X is getting overused lately, so I got
to figure something else out.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You do, Mark, Oh, Marco? Hello? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And Tuala, I knew this. I knew you were going
to put this, Toy, I saw that. I knew you're
gonna put this story. We recently had the all female
astronaut Blue Origin, the Shepherd Capsule Launch whatever you want
to call it, with Gail King and Katy Perry and
some other women on there.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
There's a new conspiracy theory where it didn't happen at all.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was like a capricorn one type of situation, and
there were some clues that people were pointing to. It's like,
wait a minute, how did that just come back from space?
And the door's already open exactly. So that is something
we're going to look into. If George Nori hasn't already
looked into it, I'm surprised. We know we're gonna be
the first. Okay, we're gonna be the first. We're breaking
(03:27):
it wide open, all right, all right, I'm gonna bust
it wide open like they say.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes. Oh, and by the way, there was a stabbing
this morning going to Metro.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, we've been stabbing in a while.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I know we got a little too complacent and someone
got their ass stabbed this morning. It was about rush
hour and it was in Pasadena. I know, that's what
really neara Madre area ish.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah. Yeah, So Metro is back to metroing.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
We're right on schedule for the Carlss Olympics coming up
in twenty twenty eight. We're all gonna be using the
Metro and we're all all gonna get stabbed. No, can
we wear pads? Will they arrest us if we wear
like bulletproof vests?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I think that is illegal. Mark, you did a cop beat,
you may know.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh, what's the question? Is it legal to wear like
kevlar where? Just in general public enough that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That's what I thought. I didn't think you could. So
we just have to risk No. No, But see, the
thing is, it's not like anyone's gonna know. It's not
like you have like a Kevlar Levi or you know.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I just look, I just when we go car free,
I don't want to get stabbed.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I may have to catch that metro.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Then just don't get on the metro. If you don't
want to get stabbed. There's an easy way not to
die in the plane crash. Don't get on the plane.
There's an easy way not to get stabbed on the metro.
Don't get on the metro.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, how the hell are we going to get around
in a car free twenty twenty eight Olympic Zone.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, that's what we were talking about last night. I'm
just gonna stay home and watch the games on my TV.
It's kind of like the answer to everything. I don't
want to get caught up in the hustle and bustle
of the movie theater and people kicking the back of
my chair. How do I solve that? I stay my
ass home and watch it on streaming. It's a very
very simple proposition. Do I want to necessarily get ronored
by Mark Ronald when I'm out there driving? I try
to stay off the freeways as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
If you don't drive like a horrible human being, you
will not be given a one finger salute.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, that's very, very, very subjective.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know, you may think that my driving is awful,
but I happen to think is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
If you practice good citizenship on the road, you got
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's the most beautiful driving you've ever seen. It's really
beautifulst is it?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yes? Because I said so.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, I'm also glad that there's nothing wrong with your
self esteem.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
This is good news. All a wrong. I've never lacked
for self confidence. I can say that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm pretty sure I never have lacked for that, and
maybe to the point of being a fault. Yes, but
I don't think so. Yes, I don't think so. We're
not there yet, that's all. That's all. That's my worst quality.
Are you sure you're the best judge of that?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yes I am, Yes, I am.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It is subjective, but my judgment is usually the best judgment.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Whatever you say. And Stephan is here, Stephan, what's this?
You're not gonna be You're not gonna be with us
on Monday? I will not again.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think he's dating someone else. Okay, I really do.
What's her name? Uh huh, that's what I thought? That pause?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Is she at least cute? It's Sophia? Wait? Wait? Whoa wait, God,
wait the Sofia that we know? The caller Sofia.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh there's more than one, Sofia. I just wanted to separate.
You know's Sophia.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
You're trying to throw us off the scin you got
something going on.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I wish I doubt that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
See he's so very humble, you know, he's self deprecating itself.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That was the latest like that.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They probably aren't trying to get on the phone right now.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh foosh, we love you. We heard all the calls.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh they see that Acentinian with the green eyes, Like,
what's his name?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, that's Stephan.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Look at this new Go Tea Cuddies guy. Yeah, yeah,
cut his hair and everything. I look, yeah, man, makeover.
It's got to be for somebody. That's not an answer.
That's a laugh.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, I you're not full of us.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Try to keep it clean. Oh that's what they call it.
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and on YouTube. When we come back, we'll tell
you about the latest Metro stabbing and why it happened,
at least to the best of our knowledge.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app as well as YouTube
at mister mo Kelly. You can tune in and see
the live feed right now. Had a question from the
live feed chat wondering whether I was agoraphobic. We had
briefly talked about the subway, and we're getting ready to
talk about it now as far as the Pasadena Metro
station where they had a stabbing earlier this morning. And
(07:55):
I was talking about how I didn't necessarily want to
ride the subway, and the question was asked, Mo, are
you a go or phobic?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I said, I said no.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I would say I'm increasing in my claustrophobia as I
get older.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's not like an irrational fear.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's not like I'm going to break out in a
cold sweat or I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Really nervous. It's just it just makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't like to be in tightly packed crowds. I
don't mind, like if you put me at Coachella, for example,
it doesn't bother me, it doesn't bother me at all.
But the idea of being on a very very tightly
packed bus makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Not fearful, but uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Because as we talk about these situations, whether there's a
stabbing or something like that. I get uncomfortable with the
idea that if something jumps off, I will not have
any ability to really protect myself because you can't.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Run, you can't really go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You're subject to the circumstances whatever's happening at the time.
So that's about the only way I can describe it.
But yeah, I would have a I would have a fear.
And Mark is probably gonna laugh at this. No, never, Yeah,
I would have a fear though, because I do have
a dream from time to time. I wouldn't say it's recurring,
but there is more than once where I ended up
in a chimney, and that does scare the Bejesus out
(09:16):
of me.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
One of your sent to nightmares.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, it's just like you're being in the chimneys, like
you can't climb out of it. Most likely you can't
back your way out through the fireplace a chimney. Yeah, look,
it's a dream. Don't try to make sense out of nonsense.
It's a chimney odd and it is odd. And I
think about like I wouldn't be able to breathe, I
wouldn't be able to move. You know, it's like Bruce Willis,
(09:40):
feel like you're a microwave dinner.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Is this a Gremlins nightmare that was set in? I
don't know you. I never have weird dreams.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I mean, from being caught pooping in public to being
stuck in a chimney. Okay, I'm sorry, Metro stabbing right.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
In any of these dreams? Are you pooping in the chimney? No, no,
excuse me.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The Sierra Madre Metro passenger station was closed most of today.
They were investigating a stabbing incident, and from what I understand,
the person who was stabbed was taken to a hospital
and listed.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
In critical condition.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
One person was arrested for what I can read here,
but there's not a lot of information as far as
what preceded the event, whether the two people knew each other,
whether there was an altercation between two people who didn't
know each other, whether it was someone who was waiting
(10:39):
for a trade and someone else just follow him or
her onto the on the platform. Now it said the
victim is in his mid thirties and suffered several stab wounds.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That sounds kind of personal.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It didn't seem like it was a momentary occurrence or
was a crime of opportunity. But that's the only thing
I can glean from it, and it says quote Metro
is grateful to the La Sheriff's Department who found and
assisted a person on the pedestrian bridge leading to the
Sierra Madre station on the A Line after that person
was injured following an apparent altercation. So it's not even
(11:18):
clear whether it was connected to Metro or someone was
trying to get away from someone and was going towards Metro.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
But the magnet to this crime, to this stabbing, to
this violence is still the metronetic pole of Metro.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, no, and violence invariably. And this will be my question.
From what we understand, La County Sheriff Sheriff's Department intervened.
I know, if they had dedicated Metro police, they would
have already been there.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Now maybe the.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Metro of the La County Sheriff happened to already be
on the platform. I doubt it because from when I
was riding Metro, that's not what they did. Every once
in a while they would come through and ride the
train and they get off like two stops later, but
they weren't just sitting on the trains and sitting on
the platforms. They would just ride from here to there.
But you know it's another stabbing. Yeah, we talk about
(12:19):
the robberies of seven eleven, what's the consistent variable seven
to eleven? We talk about the crime on Metro. What's
the consistent variable Metro. I feel the same way now
as I did maybe two years ago when we started
talking about this. The crime is not a matter of
statistics but specifics. The crime is still happening on these platforms,
(12:44):
on these buses, on these trains, and there's seemingly nothing
they can do about it, or there's nothing they could
do to mitigate it.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The way things are at the moment.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
At the moment, more funding to go towards more officers,
not more ambassadors. More officers is the only its answer.
I love the idea of your lock them in doors
or whatever they are called. The turnstiles were not the turnstiffs,
but then you have to pay the exit.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh yeah, exit.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
That did not prevent this individual from getting up to
the platform to stab some one. So all that didn't
do anything.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I know.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They're putting in metal detectors on certain buses or stations, whatever,
that didn't do anything to stop this individual from getting
up and stabbing someone.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, this was on the bridge to the platform.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, so as far as we're concerned, it's still a
part of the general public, but still the common variable.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I'm gonna get this individual on the Metro, even if
it's something that started out on the street it led
to Metro because that's obviously a safe place to get
away or something.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I don't know, right, it wasn't like the assailant was worried.
Let me back up.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yes, I'm glad they caught the person, but clearly the
person wasn't worried about being caught leading up until that point,
because they wouldn't have tried to stab them. Yes, I
can't a good conscience get on the Metro right now.
I couldn't say to my wife, you know what, it'll be, okay,
the odds of you getting stabbed or one in thirty five,
(14:18):
you know, don't even worry about it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Just go ahead and get on the train.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
You know, don't stand too close to the platform and
make sure that no one stands close to you because
he or shere they may have a knife, for a
gun or some other blunt object.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Right now the odds are closer to one in one.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Do you really want to play those odds? I mean,
do you want to play the lottery with?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You know what, on this day, nothing bad is going
to happen because it's not like it's happening at midnight,
or I should say it's not only happening at midnight,
it's happening during rush hour. You know how many people
might have been on that platform at seven forty five
in the morning, A bunch. Why because it's a workday
and seven forty five is a high traffic period. I
(14:59):
know this for I would get on the subway at
six fifteen am in Long Beach and it'd take me
to about eight am, almost eight to fifteen to get
here in Burbank. All that time the trains are packed.
Why because it's morning rush hour. So if this could
(15:20):
happen at morning rush hour, then everyone is at risk,
every single person, your mother, your wife, your child, your teenager, elderly, grandparent,
able body. Meant every single person because and you understand this,
Tuala you, the stabbing may not have anything to do
(15:42):
with you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
You could just be wrong place, wrong time.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You could be that innocent bystander who unfortunately gets caught
up because you're just there.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh yeah, like you.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I well, maybe not like you, because you chose to
catch the train into work to say of time and
injury on the commute. I didn't actually start driving until
late in life. I didn't start driving until I was
into my twenties. So I was on the bus the
entire time. And I'm telling you, every time I got
on the bus there was that not a fear, but
(16:14):
that awareness that some violence could absolutely happen on this bus.
I absolutely believe wholeheartedly that more can be done to
protect passengers on the Metro and until such a time,
maybe allow Metro riders to carry mace. Maybe they need
a special you know, metro weapon for riders. I don't know,
(16:37):
because again, like my son who today, I wasn't able
to give them a ride home from work. So it
was like, look, hopefully you can get a ride home
with your friends, and it's like that secondary thought of.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Now, if not, you can catch the bus.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And I immediately scratched out and said no, no, no, no, no.
You're either gonna come with me or you're gonna get
a ride home with your friends. Well too there was
no bus in between. Right, you don't want wrong place,
wrong time, and who wants to play those percentages? I'm not,
I'm not not. Just too convenience myself.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Could I save some money and maybe some time by
taking public transportation?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Probably? But there's something I remember. I never closed my eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I never took a nap on the subway, even though
I was dog tired. Why because something could jump off
at any time. Yep, anytime. Sometimes it did, maybe not majorly,
but still you always have to have your wits about
you when someone might get stabbed, presumably or worse.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Were going to catch up speaking of law and order
with Michael Monks and find out the latest on the
Menendez hearing today. Are they any closer to freedom? We'll
find out in just a moment.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Live on the iHeartRadio app and also YouTube, and joining
us now from the iHeartRadio Studios in downtown Los Angeles
is kfi's own Michael Monks.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Michael, good evening.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Thank you for spending your whole day, your literal whole day,
covering the Menindez brothers. First, you were down at the
Van Eys courthouse. Now you're talking to me. We know
from published news reports that the hearing has been postponed
until May ninth.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But I'm quite sure there was more to the day,
was there not?
Speaker 7 (18:22):
No, this was a wild day in Van Nuys. Actually,
most of us who showed up there to cover it
very early this morning anticipated being there all day to day,
but also back there again tomorrow. And I think fans
and family of the Menindez brothers were chomping at the
bit that this might be a real shot at freedom.
(18:43):
But the day got off to a very strange start
because word had come out last night that La County
District Attorney Nathan Hawkman had suggested that maybe we should
delay this thing. He felt emotion to that effect. We
didn't know why exactly, But when he showed up before
entering court this morning, came over and talked all of us,
holding microphones in his face, which he likes to do,
(19:04):
and he says, I got my hands on this risk
assessment report that the State Parole Board has been working
on per the order of Governor Newsom, related to the
Menindez brothers, and I don't think the judge has it,
and I don't think the defense team has it, and
I think they should have it. So to give us
time to review it, I filed emotion to do just that.
(19:27):
Let's take a break and let's look at it. That
was the first little kink that we had in the
day's events, because when they go into Courtney argues this,
the judge has no We're proceeding. But later in the
morning the judge halts everything and says we need to
take a long recess because we need to get clarity
from the state on whether anybody else is allowed to
(19:47):
read this document. And that's where things really started to
get weird.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I actually air on the side of the family who
want the Menindez brother's release, in the sense that if
you were in the court room and you have a
shot or a chance, even though slight as it may be,
you got a chance. And I think the Menindez brothers,
against my wishes, have a chance to be set free. Now,
(20:12):
did this from what you could glead, did this continuance
this postpone met? How was that received by the Menindez
brothers and their council?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Not well? Not well at all.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
In fact, it was very strange to hear their defense attorney,
Mark Geragos after the fact, and we already know he
thinks the district attorney has it out for the Menindez
brothers for whatever reason, rather than just prosecuting this game
straight down the line. But it got real intense afterwards.
First of all, Garigo suggested that Hakman was using this
(20:48):
document from the parole board as a weapon. You know,
some of the family members said they thought they were
going to have to testify and be cross examined on
the contents of a document no one had ever seen before.
Of course that's not going to happen and not been
admitted into court, but they were saying this on the
record with the support of their defense team. So that
was very, very strange. But what ended up happening was
(21:10):
Garagoscot so angry that the second kink in the day appeared,
a second motion, one that Garago says he's going to
file to have Nathan Hockman booted off this case, to
have the entire case stripped away from the La County
District Attorney's office. And he says he's going to file
that very soon. So when May ninth rolls around, It
(21:30):
won't be a hearing on whether the Menindez brothers should
be resentenced. It will be consideration of these two issues.
One can this report from the State Parole Board be
admitted into this case involving the resentencing? And two should
Nathan Hakman be recused from this case?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You basically answered my next question I was going to ask.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
How large does it loom that it's Nathan Hockman on
this case in a not George Gone, who's seemingly had
a very different level of appreciation my word for the
Menindez brother's story.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I think what George Gascone, the previous La County District
Excuse me, I'm sorry if my mic broke up a
little bit there. The previous La County District attorney saw
an opportunity for his failing reelection campaign. He saw an
increase in popularity there for the Menindez brothers because of
some Netflix broadcast, and I think he might have tried
(22:31):
to cash in a little bit as a hail Mary
to save his failing reelection campaign and obviously didn't work.
He was trounced in the November election by Nathan Hackman.
Hawkman has presided over this case in a way that
I've even said to Hawkman himself that it feels a
bit like a law school class because he never just
(22:51):
comes out and releases a statement. You're always going to
be sitting there in front of him for about forty
five minutes while he meanders through all of the murky
underneath of the law and explains all of the different
paths He did that even today, it's never right to
the point, never giving the sound bite right away that
you need to follow your story. It's always a full
(23:12):
explanation of the law. But one thing is clear. Nathan
Hackman believes Eric and Leuman Indez committed a heinous crime.
They murdered their parents in cold blood. They premeditatedly murdered them.
They lied about it, They lied again about it, they
lied again about it. They had an ever evolving story,
and even now, he says, even though they're arguing that
(23:34):
they have new evidence that supports their allegations of sexual
abuse and that they acted in self defense, they have
not fully owned up to what they did to their
parents in Beverly Hills in nineteen eighty nine, and they
have not expressed a level of remorse that is sufficient
to him, and that is far different than what you
saw from a more sympathetic George Gascon.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Before we go to break, let me just ask a
question as a far to that, what difference does it
or should it make that the Menindez brothers show contrition
when we're talking about resentencing, we're not talking about a
parole board hearing.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If that makes any difference.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
It does, because again, there are three different paths that
the menindez Is are currently seeking, all at the same time.
They're fighting on all fronts. Today was about resentencing. When
they were originally sentenced in nineteen ninety six, it was
to life in prison without parole. A re sentencing could
drop that down to fifty years to life, and because
(24:36):
they were under the age of twenty six at the
time of the killing, they could be eligible for immediate parole.
So that's very, very important. But one of the considerations
is their rehabilitation. One of the other avenues they're seeking
is a new trial that hasn't moved forward yet. Nathan
Hoffman also opposes that, and the third one is potential
(24:56):
clemency from Governor Newsom, which would require the involvement of
the Parole Board. And that's where today's document came from.
So now you've got a couple of these avenues intermingling
and kind of screwing with each other.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Michael Monks, you have enlightened us to such a great
degree about what seemingly was a non event today. But
there's a lot underneath just the news that the resentencing
has been postponed.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I want to talk to you one more segment. If
you've got time for us, sure, it's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Cafi's own Michael Monks, who's been reporting on the Menindez
resentencing hearing, joins us. You know, join us again on
the other side of the break. We're live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app and on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's mo Kelly and also on YouTube at mister mo
Kelly Live everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. I'm
right in the middle of a conversation with kfi's own
Michael Monks, who spent the better part of the day
we were basically pasting each other. In fact, Michael Monks
almost hit me in the garage day. Try to run
me down. I was mind of my own business. I
thought I had right away walking from my car to
(26:04):
the stairwell and Michael came to a screeching halt, and.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You looked a little suspicious, and then he gave me
a runner and said, why am I in his path?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I didn't know we were going to have this conversation
tonight or not. Just because of that, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I am a very pedestrian conscious, though I promise you
I would not have run over you. That's I might
have had the thought you the long day.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, you say that because you know that all of
Southern California's listening right now.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You just want to put that on the record.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I don't want to be suspected in anything, but I'm
trying to be employee of the Monthy do they still
do that?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Okay, I saw you one it once. You're still on
the plot.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah. Yeah, It's one of my finest moments in my life.
I got to say that in my career.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But to be serious, we were talking about the Menindez
Brothers and I was wondering. I asked, like, does it
really matter if it's Nathan Hawkman or George Gascon, and
there's an argument to be made that this might have
gone very differently if George Gascone were still are La
County DA. But beyond that, when we get back on
(27:05):
May ninth, there's no real reason to be able to
forecast how these motions are going to play out. But
do you get a sense of any momentum after today?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
I was trying to think about this, like who won today,
and it doesn't look like anybody did because and I'll
tell you something else that was really interesting this event.
They announced that, Hey, if you're just from the public,
but you want to sit in the courtroom and watch this,
we're going to have a lottery basically a raffle, and
(27:36):
we'll pull the numbers out and if your number is called,
you'll have a seat in the courtroom. And when they
did this months ago, when these hearings first started, it
was a madhouse. There were sixteen seats available today in
that raffle, and I think there were just barely more
than that who showed up for them. So the sort
(27:58):
of allure of this thing has worn off in terms
of who's showing up. There weren't any protesters. There was
one person running around saying, you know, shouting free them
and indez and I think there was a live stream
involved with that, so who knows what that person was doing.
But it was not a madhouse. It was mostly just
guys like me, you know, holding microphones with pens and
notebooks and trying to report on what was going on.
(28:21):
But the public interest, I don't know if it has waned,
because it is still an interesting story. I think that's indisputable.
These guys have been part of our lives for three
decades and a lot recently after years of no one
really thinking about them, but nobody really showed up for
them today, or showed up for this event. I thought
that was the first interesting thing I saw, and then
(28:43):
the real interesting stuff started in the courtroom. So as
far as who won today, I don't know. I think
both parties left kind of angry. I think it got
kind of heated. Some of the reporting I've read from
my colleagues indicates that it got pretty heated in the courtroom.
We're challenged because if you're there on the scene, you
can't actually go into the courtroom. They take everything from you,
(29:03):
They take your phone from you. You can't send any
messages out, so we kind of stayed outside and waited
for updates that way, so I didn't get to see
the actual court reports indicate it got heated in there.
I think this was like if we put it into
a sports event. This was just like a bad basketball game.
Nobody was making any shots and it was just brutal.
(29:24):
And now we have to go to overtime and watch
more of it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Speaking of how the Menindas brothers have been part of
our lives, even in a distance since for more than
thirty years, I wonder about the larger evolution of how
the media may impact the courtroom. What I mean by
that is I think of the free Britney movement, how
Britney spears and her well was it her her resership conservativeship, yes,
(29:52):
where she was being overseen by her family, and how
that changed because of media and also documentaries and what
have you. I think about R Kelly and how it
wasn't until you had these dueling documentaries talking about, you know,
surviving R Kelly that the legal end began to change.
And I can think about this and public statements made
(30:15):
by Kim Kardashian and others about the Menindez plight and
their case and how that's led I think in great
degree to this what we're seeing now. More philosophical question,
what do you think the media has done, either done
well or even done to its own detriment to shape
(30:35):
what is important in the courtroom these days?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Well, regardless of the score you might give the media,
and not really the news media, mostly the creative, the
entertainment media that has been created around the story of
the Menindezes. It has absolutely led us to this occasion,
There's no question about it. Have you ever imagined in
your life that a fifteen year old would suddenly become
a total stan of Eric and lyleman Indez right possible
(31:01):
because of this new media that existed, the documentary and
the docuseries that came out on streaming, and George gas
Snollan acknowledged that. Nathan Hoffman has acknowledged that, And I
think the Menindez brothers must be eternally grateful, regardless of
what they think of their portrayals, they have to be
grateful that that media exists, because it turned the tide
and got them, has gotten them this far. They may
(31:23):
not get out, but the only reason they have a
fighting chance at all is because of the rise and
their profile because of that media. What I was thinking
today was, you know, I was a kid when the
Menindez brothers were in the news, and I remember that,
you know what I mean, And I'm thinking, what if
my life had kind of stopped as I know it.
(31:44):
But I'm still alive, but I'm kind of confined like
they are in prison. Nineteen ninety six was a pretty
peak year. I think humanity kind of peaked there in
the mid to late nineties. We had a little bit
of Internet culture was pretty good. I think all music
genres were really at their peak. A bad time to
like have the last memory of America. But I wonder
(32:06):
what it will be like for them if they do
get out to be like nineties guys and re released
on the streets in twenty twenty five America. It's it's
quite a different place.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It is not an impossibility, And I think that is
the takeaway. They have not a great chance, but more
than no chance at all.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That's exactly right, Michael Monks.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
We appreciate you spinning your whole life down there today
and you'll probably do it again on May ninth, but
until that time, thank you for what you do.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Just stay out of the way of my pathfinder.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I'll do my best.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's that or or take the subway and might get
still run down by you somehow.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Someway. You know me.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
That is my preferred mode of transportation. But they made
me drive that company car and it's very big and scary,
Yes it is. It's scared that Jesus out of me today.
Have a safe I'll probably see them all. But if
I don't see you, have a safe weekend. You do
the same, can if I am six forty. We're live
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