December 28, 2024 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Last year, we did a list of the hundred best
movies of all time, and it was done by Variety,
and it was probably one of the worst cinematic lists
ever known to humankind. This is the one hundred best
horror Movies of all time, also from Variety, and just
quickly perusing it, it might be the second worst list
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of all time. I think it might be worse. It. Well,
let's just get into it so we can show people
exactly what we mean. This is according to Variety, not us.
Coming in at number hundred. I will look to you,
Mark Roner. Most of these movies I don't know, but
the ones I do know, they're wildly out of place
as far as they're ranking.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh, there's some stinkers on here, and I gotta warn
you before we really get into the meat of this.
Critics generally are not horror film fans, so you know,
going into this to kind of take it with a
grain of salt. But this is just outright clickbait approaching
rage bait. There are some weird choices on here.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There are movies on this list which aren't even horror movies. Yes,
we'll get into it. Coming in at number one hundred
of the best horror movies of all time? Repulsion Okay, whatever, Polanski, Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, you know, fine, one hundred, number
ninety nine, Suspiria.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's the best thing our Gento has done. It's a masterpiece.
It should be higher than ninety nine. Agree, Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Ninety eight The Devil's Backbone. Not a big geer moo
del Toro fan when it comes to horror.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, it's a worthy movie, but is it in the
top one hundred best of all time?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I don't know about that. Number ninety seven The Haunting,
the nineteen sixty three version, another masterpiece. Higher than ninety seven,
especially when you look at some of the stuff that's
up higher. I put it just highlighted because we'll come
back to that again and again. I'm trying to not
use all the words we can't use on the radio.
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This is where I about threw my phone across the room,
coming in at number ninety six Invasion of the Body
Snatchers nineteen seventy eight. For me, it has to be
top ten. It deserves to be far higher than that.
I can listen to arguments like, well, bo, you forgot
about this, okay, and you move it down to twenty,
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but not ninety seven. Don't tell me that there are
ninety five movies which are better, more impactful, more meaningful
to the genre than the nineteen seventy eight version of
Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, especially on this list. Ninety five Dead Alive, early
Peter Jackson. It's entertaining, but I wouldn't put it on
this list, not on the top one.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Hundred, ninety four event horizon. I personally really like the movie,
it's not top one hundred. I can separate and compartmentalize.
Just because I like something doesn't make you great.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You know. I've had that on my rewatch list for
years now. It didn't leave me with a very strong
impression when I first saw it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, it was it was okay. And also I have
a friend who's in the movie, so I have an
affinity for movies like that. Oh who the brother of
the movie okay man, Richard Jones. His name nice number
ninety three cat people val Lewton if you don't know
who that is.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
He was a producer of black and white kind of
short B films, and I guess generally the forties and
fifties and They're all just absolutely wonderful. You could pick
any one of them, including cat people. I walked with
the zombie his whole ouvra I guess should be on
this list. He's terrific.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The Human Centipede Part two. Yeah, this is where we
start watching the throw chairs. Yeah, better than invasion on
the body snatches.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, why is this even there? Who's responsible for this
and why haven't they've been fired? Number ninety one Dead
of Night. Didn't see it?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's a British anthology what they call a Portmanteau movie
with several different stories.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Can you be using words like port Monteau. Well, that's
what they call it. We call the anthology. Dead of
Night's not bad at all. Number ninety is a page
of madness, not familiar. I didn't know that one either.
Eighty nine Horror of Dracula fifty eight, that should be higher.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's from Hammer Films, that fantastic British company that kind
of flourished from i'd say the late fifties to the
early seventies. And there's a lot of terrific historic Hammer
stuff that's not on this list, and that's infuriating, Like
where's the Curse of Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Where is that's not on the list.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Where is Brides of Dracula, which is one of the
all time greatest eighty eight Blood Feast Herschel Gordon lewis
the first real true Gore film.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It belongs on there just for historic reasons. Eighty seven
The Vanishing. I barely remember it. It's it's good. But
if if he eighty six Village of the Damned I
listened to it, Yeah, yeah, exactly, I don't mind it
being there. Eighty five Reanimator, Yes, I'll just say on
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the list, I don't know where. That's fine. Eighty four
Dead Ringers, Okay, Cronenberg.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Here's where we have an issue because Cronenberg is one
of the masters. Dead Ringers isn't really a horror film,
and you're gonna put Dead Ringers on there, but not
Scanners the Dead Bone.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He did Scanners. Yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorites
as well. I didn't know for some reason, I didn't
make the connection. I can watch Scanners almost anything. Watch
it like two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's your first exploding head film, you know what, That's
a movie. I would be open to a remake. I
would like to see that universe expanded. Yes, as a
music fan, you have to love the Howard Shore Sounds
score to Scanners.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
It's terrific. Eighty three Little Shop of Horrors. Yeah, I
don't know about that. Is it a horror movie? No,
it's a horror spoof. It's a comedy.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, you've got Little Shop of Horrors, which is from
Roger Corman, but you don't have Corman's Edgar Allan Poe
movies on there, like The Pit and the Pendulum, The
Mask of the Red Death, Go to hell with this.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Eighty two What Lies Beneath That is not a horror movie. Yeah, again,
people need to be losing their jobs for that one.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Eighty one The wolf Man, Okay, yeah, all the universal
stuff belongs on there.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Eighty House of Wax, I I remember some of it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know, it's kind of a historic. Gimme, you gotta
have it in there.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Seventy nine the omen Yes should be higher, agreed. Seventy
eight Angst. I didn't know that one.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's an obscure choice, and it just kind of goes
to my point that some of these critics are so
jaded they want to kind of show off by throwing
some way out of left field thing in there. If I,
as a lifetime horror fan, have never heard of that,
Your Head's all the way up your tailpipe.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Seventy seven The Blob. I think it's meaningful, it's relevant. Yeah,
seventy six I walked.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
With a zombie. No, that's another val Luton, the same
one as Cat People. Terrific seventy five The Descent. You know,
it's kind of a you could accuse them of recency bias,
but the first Descent movie really is an armed grip
of the I'm trying to say, it'll make you grip
the arm of your chair. I took it to another
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I took another hardcore horror fan with me to the
critics screening of that way back when our eyes were
both like saucers by the end of that.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Seventy four A Nightmare on Elm Street. I'll put it
on there for this reason. I think it is genre
defining for its time. Yeah, people dig it. Seventy three
Blood for Dracula.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, that's one of those two Andy Warhol Dracula and
Frankenstein movies. They were nothing but shocking, kind of dirty
stuff for the time. They're not good, actual good horror film.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Seventy two, Creature the Black Lagoon, Yes, seventy one, Hostile
part two meaning that Hostile part one never mind.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Absolutely not rot in Hell. Whoever put that on there?
And the last one before we go to break the
Whiling Shutter has that and that's been on my watch
list forever. It's got a good reputation, but I don't know,
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
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Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's Later with Mo Kelly, and we're listening back to
when we counted down the top one hundred horror movies
of all time. Number sixty nine, Near Dark Catherine Bigelow. Yeah,
I don't love that like a lot of people do.
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But it's a great horror vampire for a landmark vampire movie,
and I guess it deserves to be on there. That's
some good Lance Henrickson too, by the way. Number sixty
eight The Sixth Sense, which put M. Knight Shyamalan on
the mat. I don't think of this as a horror movie.
I think of it as a psychological thriller. Just because
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it includes dead people doesn't make it horror.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I agree with you. And it also is the
one that kind of showed that he M. Knight made
a big splash but turned out to be kind of
a one trick pony for a very long time? Did
sixty seven Possession? You know that has had a growing
reputation over the decades. Yeah, and what is it Isabella?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Johnny? You think you're right.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It didn't leave me with a huge impression, but it's
one of those movies that's quiet and quiet and then
just shocking.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Sixty six The Baba Duk decent, Okay, sixty five The
Incredible Shrinking Man not a horror film?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well yeah, I mean it's an incredible movie based on
a book by Richard Matheson, and I could watch that
any day. It's just it holds up wonderfully. But where's
the horror? Did they not have enough horror films to
choose from? As I can say, so they left out
then they could have put in instead.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
They must have, because as we get further in this list,
you'll realize that this is really not a horror list.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, The Shrinking Man should be on a list of
great sci fi movies. Sci Fi yes, sixty four, Planet Terror,
absolutely not Go to Hell sixty.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Three Doctor Jeff and mister Hyde. Sure, sure, right, sure?
Which version though? Which version today?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The thirty one version? Okay, yeah, there's several, just pick one. Yeah, yeah,
listen to this stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Coming in at number sixty two, okay, of the one
hundred best horror movies of all time, on a list
which saw Invasion of the Body Snatchers at ninety six
with Donald Sutherland with one of the most classic scenes
of all time, Jeff Gold it was a wonderful cast. Okay,
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that was ninety six. Coming in at number sixty two Grimlins, Well, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Not going to bad mouth Joe Dante. I think he's
a great director, but that doesn't belong there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's not a horror movie, not really. No, it's more
a Christmas movie than it is a horror movie. And it's.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's just not a horror movie. Whoever put that there
doesn't underst Dan Horror.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sixty one, Candy Man. I think it's on the list,
but I will put it closer to one hundred. Uh,
let's just keep moving. Okay. Number sixty Funny Games. Okay,
have you seen Funny Games to have it now? I
have not.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I you know, it's more suspense than horror, first of all,
and there's more than one version. There's an American version
as well.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I just recently watched it because I was morbidly curious
and was like, oh, that's like, what's the most twisted movie?
And a lot of things that came up was Funny Games,
and it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's pretty rough.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It makes those lists because it's absolutely neolistic and pointless.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah. Number fifty nine whatever happened to Baby Jane. Never
have seen that either by either by number fifty eight
Raw Eddie Murphy. No, not Well, it'd be a toss
up between that and the Raw that they did include.
I'm not a fan of the a that they put
on this list, and I've seen a lot of kind
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of if feat Film snobs praised that movie over the years,
and you were the first person to use feet on
the radio, and it makes me want to punch those
people in the neck. Number fifty seven Peeping Tom.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's decent, but it's not a horror film. Powell and Pressburger.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah. Number fifty six. I don't mind this movie, and
I don't mind it in this location.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The Fly, the Cronenberg Fly. Yes, yes, yeah, you know,
it might even be a little higher. Honestly, it's really a
wonderful film, and I just rewatched it for the first
time since it came out recently. It holds up phenomenal phenomena.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, and it's so it's such a sad movie because
you know, it only ends one way, and the ending
just leaves you sitting there with your mouth hanging all this. Yeah, yeah,
it's great. Number fifty five The Cabinet of Doctor Calgary Caligary.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Okay, yeah, you kind of have to have that because
it was one of the first fifty.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Four let the right one in. I didn't see this,
but I hear good things about it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, there's an American version and a foreign version, and
they're both very good.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Number fifty three. I've never understood this movie. I don't know.
I've never understood the appeal of this movie, but I
understand why as far as horror genre, it's on every list.
Eraser Head.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I saw that on a double bill when I was
a teenager, with the original Night of the Living Dead,
and I wasn't the same for several days afterward.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's messed up. Fifty two Blood and Black Lace of
sixty four.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Early Mario Bava. More of a giallo than a horror.
But whatever. Compared to some of the other outrages on
this list, it's not that bad. Number fifty one Irreversible.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Okay, do you know that movie? I do not.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It is a really intense movie about a rape that
is told backward. I think Gaspernoe was the director. It's
not a horror film. I mean, it's tough to get through,
but it's not a horror film. Number fifty only Baba
only Baba. Yeah, it's a I think Japanese horror film.
It's been years since I've seen it. That's quality.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Number forty nine The Witch twenty fifteen version.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Little great inflation, a little recency bias with that one.
It's very good, but it's not one of the hundred
best of all time. That's that Robert Eggers, isn't it. Yes,
now here is a debate to be had. Number forty
eight Alfred Hitchcock. I don't believe Alfred Hitchcock.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
All of his stuff was horror some of it was
more psychological thriller, I believe for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Forty eight The Birds, Well, I think The Birds kind
of is horror because you never get an explanation for
these bird attacks and it just abruptly ends. And when
you see somebody in the midst of a bird mailstrom
getting pecked to death, that sure is horrific.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Number forty seven, It's not a horror movie. It is
literally a different genre. Godzilla the nineteen fifty four version.
It's tragic. Godzilla goes to town and destroys the city.
But just because people die doesn't make it a horror movie. Well,
there's your side debate. Is a giant monster Kaiju movie
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really a horror movie? I'm not so sure it is.
Number forty six. Yes, it deserves to be on this list,
and yes it deserves to be higher on my list.
The nineteen eighty two movie The Thing Away Higher.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, it's brilliant and it was a flop when it
came out, and it's done nothing but gain cred over
the decades. It's I've seen that movie so many times.
I know it chapter and verse.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Number forty five The Invisible Ban Yes, just because yeahah,
Number number forty four Manhunter.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't know if it's horror, but it's one of
Michael Mann's greatest forty three Vampire p y r. The
Theatre Dryer, one thirty two Carl Theatre Dryer Yep, yep,
gotta have that.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Number forty two. I like this movie. I don't know
where I would place it. Twenty eight days Later, Oh,
way too high, way too high.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's a quality film and it's it's pretty tense and
even though the direct Danny Boyle insists it not, it's
not zombies.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's zombies. Number forty one The Devil's nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, that one's hard to find and it is really
a shocking ordeal of a movie to go through. If
you've never seen that, strap yourself in, track down a copy.
It's very good, and make sure you there's several different
versions floating around too. And that's like a side vocation
for people finding different versions of that to watch.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Last one for this break, number forty is Bride of Frankenstein. Yep. Absolutely,
one hundred percent. Should be way up high. It's later
with mo Kelly. More of the top one hundred horror movies.
According to some twelve year olds at Variety. When we
come back, don't go anywhere, we'll have more of some
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of the best of twenty twenty four as we listen back.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (18:19):
If you're just joining us, you're listening to some of
the best from twenty twenty four and right now on
Later with Mo Kelly, we're counting down the top one
hundred horror movies of all time, or at least according
to Variety, and they're wrong. Coming in at number thirty
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nine is a freaking musical, Quieton. Are you sure that's
a musical. I don't think that's a musical. Oh well,
it seems like a musical.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, no, that's a Japanese horror film. It's okay, okay,
so that's a quality film. They didn't screw up on
that particular one. Okay, I take it back there. Number
thirty eight Freaks eighteen thirty two. Yeah, that's another one
that didn't do great when it came out, and it
kind of destroyed Todd Browning's career for a while because
nobody really wanted to see actual freaks in a movie.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But again.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Its reputation picked up over the years and now it's
considered a masterpiece.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Number thirty seven Deep red Profondo rosso.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, Dario Argento. I think Suspiria, which is way up higher,
belongs in front of it.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Though number thirty six Hereditary another great inflation the recency
bias rather than that doesn't belong that far. It's good, though,
shouldn't be on the list at all. Look, I don't
think anything made in the past ten years should be
on this list. I'm being honest. I think it has
to age like wine and let history tell the story
of its impact.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
So, you know, how like you've been saying, like children
were putting in charge of this list. Whoever was in
charge of writing Hereditary, I think they put their children
to let their kids do it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I thought Hereditary was a decent movie, but it's certainly
not one of the hundred greatest of all time. You know,
you are just shocked with your mouth hanging open within
the first few minutes of that, and the ending of
Hereditary is also one where you're just kinda that's a
talker when you're walking out of the theater. But not
not top one hundred material, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Number thirty five Invasion of the Body Snatcher is the
fifty six version, absolutely yeah, yep. Number thirty four Evil
Dead Too is better than that. No, it's good.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean, everybody loves it and I say move it
further down though, And I've written Evil Dead comics, so
I'm prone to like it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But I think they're rating it too high. Number thirty
three m as in the letter M. That's not a
horror film. No, it's okay, it doesn't matter. Number thirty
two The Night of the Hunter from nineteen fifty five, again.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Not a horror film, but an absolutely phenomenal one off
from Charles Lawton, who was an actor and it's the
only film he directed. If you haven't seen that, just
bump it way up to the top of your watch list.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's great already. One the Japanese movie Ring Wu. I
guess this is what the Ring was based on. Yeah, yeah,
I guess you kind of have that. That was one
of the couple that kicked off the whole Jay horror
tread yep. Number thirty Eyes Without a Face nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
You sends visage it's not that scary, but I guess
for the time it came out. It was kind of
shocking in terms of its subject matter. It's about a
surgeon who cuts faces off people to put him on,
I think his daughter who's disfigured, like the movie Face Off.
They're distant cousins man, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Number twenty nine Phantom of the Opera Yeah, why no, okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Which one? The twenty five version? Yeah, there's a hammer
version from I think the late fifties. That's pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Isn't that a musical? No? No, not that one. Well,
they're adaptation, yeah, Fanda.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh yeah, there's that Andrew Lloyd Webber War Crime, which
which that's a whole different list.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Number twenty eight The wicker Man absolutely a masterpiece. Yeah,
I'm thinking it might be higher. Yeah, and the Neil
Lebte remake. Seventy three Bees. Oh not the Bees.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
No, this one is fantastic. It's the best thing Edward
Woodward ever did. And Christopher Lee is magnificent in it too.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Twenty seven Dracula, Yeah, of course, which dracular? Thirty one okay, yeah,
twenty six The Innocence CNTs.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, Debra Carr. That's a great, great film. I think
it's based on Henry James Turn of the Screw. If
I'm remembering this right, you are. And it's a ghost story,
it's not so much a horror story, but it's it's
really good.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Number twenty five. I guess you could argue it's genre
defining for the decade Scream, but I don't think it's
a good movie.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'm not a fan of that at all. I don't
think it should be on this list.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Look, I can think of a bunch of other slasher
movies which were better than screen, but it was genre tofied.
It should just be lower, way lower. Number twenty four,
Get the f out of here. The Blair Witch Project,
Nollie Garbage. That movie was garbage, absolute it was a prank.
Number twenty three Daught of the Dead.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, one hundred percent deserves to be very high on
any list that that changed pop culture, and I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Twenty two Carnival of Souls.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I say, yes, Well that's where Romero, George Romero got
the idea for a Night of the living dead. It's
very spooky, not very scary. Number twenty one Black Sunday
didn't see this one?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Is that another pigblem? Yeah? I think that's an early Yellow,
not very scary. Number twenty. It was a good movie,
but I don't know if it's one of the top
one hundred and it's Yeah, I guess it's horror get out.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No way should that be anywhere near this high if
it's even on the list?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
No, I look, I thought it was a nice twist,
you know, in the movie. But whatever. No. Number nineteen
The Mummy. Yeah, which one thirty two? Uh huh? Number
eighteen We have not seen a lot from this creator
The Shining. Not a lot of Stephen King on this list,
as in none No, and Stephen King hates Stanley Kubrick's version. Yes,
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there was a TV movie made of it. Mini series
is Stephen Weber a few years later that King actually
liked Number seventeen Diabolique. Yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's a little slow, but once you get to the scare,
you'll you'll know what happened.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Number sixteen, Yes, it is a classic horror movie, but
it's not better than The Shining. Number sixteen is Halloween. Sure,
you're right. Number fifteen, don't look now, didn't see that one?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh oh, that's amazing, and it's that's a grown up
horror film. Takes place in Venice. A couple is mourning
the loss of their daughter. It is messed up.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Number fourteen nos Faratu, a Symphony of Horror from twenty
two nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, that's the one that got banned because they they
were accused by Bram Stoker's The State of ripping off Dracula,
and so that almost disappeared. We almost don't have that today,
but yeah, that belongs there.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Thirteen. I can't argue with this. It might even be
higher on my personal list. The Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Again, whether or not it's a horror film is up
for debate, but it's great.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Number twelve. This is not a horror movie. If anything,
is closer to a love story than it is a
horror movie.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
King Kong, Oh, they can go soak their head. That's
a Kaiju movie.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah. Number eleven. Alien, I'll allow it, if only because
it was billed as a horror movie in space. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, Alien can do no wrong. Put it way up
on top of every list. It's a masterpiece of any kind.
The top ten.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Movies of all time as it relates to the horror genre,
according to Variety. When we come back, we're listening back
to some of our favorite conversations this year. It's Later
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A fi iHeartRadio. It's Later with mo Kelly and we're
listening back to when we counted down the top one
hundred horror movies of all time. Let's get this top
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ten out of the way of the one hundred best
horror movie of all time according to Variety. And I'm
quite sure this will make everyone mad or not. We'll
see coming in at number ten, and I agree it
should be on the list, maybe top twenty. I don't
know if I put it in the top ten. Carrie
nineteen seventy six. Boy, that's a little overrated.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's yeah, it's a decent film and a decent Stephen
King adaptation, but it doesn't belong that far up the list.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Number nine Salo, I've never seen that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's got quite a reputation for being just absolutely unbearably
disgusting torture porn.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Number eight Frankenstein nineteen thirty one.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The Russian judges will mark you way down if you
don't include that. It's one of the perfunctory ones.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Number seven Audition didn't see it nineteen ninety nine, way
way too high.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
It's slow and slow and slow until it's just unbelievably shocking,
and it's it may be your cup of tea, it
may not. Kind of a movie. Rollshock test. Number six,
Night of the Living Dead, I'll allow it.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yes. Number five Rosemary's Baby, I'll allow it. We can Masterpiece. Yeah,
we could debate whether it should be four, number three, whatever,
but top ten is fine. Yep. Number four Jaws not
a horror film. Is it a great movie? Yes? Is
it a classic? Yes? Is it a horror movie? Hell's no.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Fire all of these people who put this list together.
Fire them. That's like saying Star Wars is a war movie.
It really isn't It really isn't. Number three Psycho Yeah, sure, Yeah,
I was a horror film. I guess so, because you
stabbed someone in a shower. I guess it's absolutely brilliant,
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society changing film.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But is it horror in the way that maybe Silence
of the Lambs is psychological?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That goes back to the debate about Hitchcock and his movies. Yeah, yeah,
I love the movie though.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Number two The Exorcist Absolutely, yeah, yeah, I think for
me personally and what I know about the genre generally,
that would be by number one, because every movie since
then has tried to duplicate the impact of the Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It really did change film in general. Film.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It wasn't just a great horror film. It was a
great movie that transcended the genre.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, I am working on a demonic possession project right now,
and I keep trying to not imitate stuff that I
saw in the Exorcist.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And number one, the greatest horror movie of all time,
according to Variety, is none other than The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know, that's a fair assessment of that. It could
have been any number of others, but that is an
incredible film, and I think it gets underrated for the
artistry that went into that. Toby Hooper And again, if
you're gonna have a Toby Hooper movie on the list,
polter guys should on here as well. But The Texas
Chainsaw Massacre is extremely messed up and made a huge
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splash in the culture when it came out, and yet
for all the reputation that it's amassed, you never really
see that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Dunch, you know, the glaring omissions from this list if
you have a Nightmare on Elm Street, if you have
these genre defining movies of a decade or so, I
don't see how you can have a Texas Chainsaw massacre
and not have Ad Jason a Friday thirteenth somewhere in
the top one hundred.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
At least the first one. Maybe just the first one,
just the first one. Yeah, And where where's Luccio Fulci?
Where's the Beyond? And Zombie No?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah? I mean those names might not mean much.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
To non horror fans, but to horror fans those are
in the mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
How can you have a list of the best horror
movies of all time have a movie like Gremlins on
the list, but not have a movie like Pulture Guys
nineteen eighty two. It's and I'll listen to the argument
that it's not straight horror, but if you know the movie,
there are some definite horror moments in the movie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Also, where's Cannibal Holocaust? I'm not making that up either.
It's that was such a shocking film released around nineteen
eighty by an Italian director named Riggio Diadado. He had
to go to court to prove that it wasn't an
actual snuff film. It's a terribly shocking and it was
the first found footage horror movie as well.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
No Fantasm, Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, Don Coscarelli's terrific Fantasm is one of my favorites.
Fantasm Or. I mean, Coscarelli's done a bunch of really
good stuff. Even his John dies at the end movie
is magnificent. He's an incredible director and doesn't get the
credit he deserves.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Hey, I would put hell Razor one on here. I
would too. Yeah, I hate it when we agree, but
I would too. There are just some obvious omissions here.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like Martyrs, if you want one that was from the
last twenty years Martyrs. I got Foosh to watch Martyrs recently,
and I think it kind of did a number on
him and as it does on everybody who sees it.
Thought provoking, original, and definitely not American because it kind
of goes places that most American mainstream films wouldn't go.
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Martyrs is terrific. That should be on there. The Tales
from the Crypt, some of these older ones from Amicus.
Amicus was a like second only to Hammer films in
the in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
Last year, we did a list of the hundred best
movies of all time, and it was done by Variety,
and it was probably one of the worst cinematic lists
ever known to humankind. This is the one hundred best
horror Movies of all time, also from Variety, and just
quickly perusing it, it might be the second worst list
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of all time. I think it might be worse. It. Well,
let's just get into it so we can show people
exactly what we mean. This is according to Variety, not us.
Coming in at number hundred. I will look to you,
Mark Roner. Most of these movies I don't know, but
the ones I do know, they're wildly out of place
as far as they're ranking.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh, there's some stinkers on here, and I gotta warn
you before we really get into the meat of this.
Critics generally are not horror film fans, so you know,
going into this to kind of take it with a
grain of salt. But this is just outright clickbait approaching
rage bait. There are some weird choices on here.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There are movies on this list which aren't even horror movies. Yes,
we'll get into it. Coming in at number one hundred
of the best horror movies of all time? Repulsion Okay, whatever, Polanski, Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, you know, fine, one hundred, number
ninety nine, Suspiria.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's the best thing our Gento has done. It's a masterpiece.
It should be higher than ninety nine. Agree, Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Ninety eight The Devil's Backbone. Not a big geer moo
del Toro fan when it comes to horror.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, it's a worthy movie, but is it in the
top one hundred best of all time?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I don't know about that. Number ninety seven The Haunting,
the nineteen sixty three version, another masterpiece. Higher than ninety seven,
especially when you look at some of the stuff that's
up higher. I put it just highlighted because we'll come
back to that again and again. I'm trying to not
use all the words we can't use on the radio.
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This is where I about threw my phone across the room,
coming in at number ninety six Invasion of the Body
Snatchers nineteen seventy eight. For me, it has to be
top ten. It deserves to be far higher than that.
I can listen to arguments like, well, bo, you forgot
about this, okay, and you move it down to twenty,
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but not ninety seven. Don't tell me that there are
ninety five movies which are better, more impactful, more meaningful
to the genre than the nineteen seventy eight version of
Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, especially on this list. Ninety five Dead Alive, early
Peter Jackson. It's entertaining, but I wouldn't put it on
this list, not on the top one.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Hundred, ninety four event horizon. I personally really like the movie,
it's not top one hundred. I can separate and compartmentalize.
Just because I like something doesn't make you great.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You know. I've had that on my rewatch list for
years now. It didn't leave me with a very strong
impression when I first saw it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, it was it was okay. And also I have
a friend who's in the movie, so I have an
affinity for movies like that. Oh who the brother of
the movie okay man, Richard Jones. His name nice number
ninety three cat people val Lewton if you don't know
who that is.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
He was a producer of black and white kind of
short B films, and I guess generally the forties and
fifties and They're all just absolutely wonderful. You could pick
any one of them, including cat people. I walked with
the zombie his whole ouvra I guess should be on
this list. He's terrific.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The Human Centipede Part two. Yeah, this is where we
start watching the throw chairs. Yeah, better than invasion on
the body snatches.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, why is this even there? Who's responsible for this
and why haven't they've been fired? Number ninety one Dead
of Night. Didn't see it?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's a British anthology what they call a Portmanteau movie
with several different stories.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Can you be using words like port Monteau. Well, that's
what they call it. We call the anthology. Dead of
Night's not bad at all. Number ninety is a page
of madness, not familiar. I didn't know that one either.
Eighty nine Horror of Dracula fifty eight, that should be higher.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's from Hammer Films, that fantastic British company that kind
of flourished from i'd say the late fifties to the
early seventies. And there's a lot of terrific historic Hammer
stuff that's not on this list, and that's infuriating, Like
where's the Curse of Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Where is that's not on the list.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Where is Brides of Dracula, which is one of the
all time greatest eighty eight Blood Feast Herschel Gordon lewis
the first real true Gore film.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It belongs on there just for historic reasons. Eighty seven
The Vanishing. I barely remember it. It's it's good. But
if if he eighty six Village of the Damned I
listened to it, Yeah, yeah, exactly, I don't mind it
being there. Eighty five Reanimator, Yes, I'll just say on
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the list, I don't know where. That's fine. Eighty four
Dead Ringers, Okay, Cronenberg.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Here's where we have an issue because Cronenberg is one
of the masters. Dead Ringers isn't really a horror film,
and you're gonna put Dead Ringers on there, but not
Scanners the Dead Bone.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He did Scanners. Yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorites
as well. I didn't know for some reason, I didn't
make the connection. I can watch Scanners almost anything. Watch
it like two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's your first exploding head film, you know what, That's
a movie. I would be open to a remake. I
would like to see that universe expanded. Yes, as a
music fan, you have to love the Howard Shore Sounds
score to Scanners.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
It's terrific. Eighty three Little Shop of Horrors. Yeah, I
don't know about that. Is it a horror movie? No,
it's a horror spoof. It's a comedy.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, you've got Little Shop of Horrors, which is from
Roger Corman, but you don't have Corman's Edgar Allan Poe
movies on there, like The Pit and the Pendulum, The
Mask of the Red Death, Go to hell with this.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Eighty two What Lies Beneath That is not a horror movie. Yeah, again,
people need to be losing their jobs for that one.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Eighty one The wolf Man, Okay, yeah, all the universal
stuff belongs on there.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Eighty House of Wax, I I remember some of it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know, it's kind of a historic. Gimme, you gotta
have it in there.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Seventy nine the omen Yes should be higher, agreed. Seventy
eight Angst. I didn't know that one.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's an obscure choice, and it just kind of goes
to my point that some of these critics are so
jaded they want to kind of show off by throwing
some way out of left field thing in there. If I,
as a lifetime horror fan, have never heard of that,
Your Head's all the way up your tailpipe.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Seventy seven The Blob. I think it's meaningful, it's relevant. Yeah,
seventy six I walked.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
With a zombie. No, that's another val Luton, the same
one as Cat People. Terrific seventy five The Descent. You know,
it's kind of a you could accuse them of recency bias,
but the first Descent movie really is an armed grip
of the I'm trying to say, it'll make you grip
the arm of your chair. I took it to another
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I took another hardcore horror fan with me to the
critics screening of that way back when our eyes were
both like saucers by the end of that.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Seventy four A Nightmare on Elm Street. I'll put it
on there for this reason. I think it is genre
defining for its time. Yeah, people dig it. Seventy three
Blood for Dracula.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, that's one of those two Andy Warhol Dracula and
Frankenstein movies. They were nothing but shocking, kind of dirty
stuff for the time. They're not good, actual good horror film.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Seventy two, Creature the Black Lagoon, Yes, seventy one, Hostile
part two meaning that Hostile part one never mind.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Absolutely not rot in Hell. Whoever put that on there?
And the last one before we go to break the
Whiling Shutter has that and that's been on my watch
list forever. It's got a good reputation, but I don't know,
I haven't seen it.
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It's Later with Mo Kelly, and we're listening back to
when we counted down the top one hundred horror movies
of all time. Number sixty nine, Near Dark Catherine Bigelow. Yeah,
I don't love that like a lot of people do.
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But it's a great horror vampire for a landmark vampire movie,
and I guess it deserves to be on there. That's
some good Lance Henrickson too, by the way. Number sixty
eight The Sixth Sense, which put M. Knight Shyamalan on
the mat. I don't think of this as a horror movie.
I think of it as a psychological thriller. Just because
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it includes dead people doesn't make it horror.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I agree with you. And it also is the
one that kind of showed that he M. Knight made
a big splash but turned out to be kind of
a one trick pony for a very long time? Did
sixty seven Possession? You know that has had a growing
reputation over the decades. Yeah, and what is it Isabella?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Johnny? You think you're right.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It didn't leave me with a huge impression, but it's
one of those movies that's quiet and quiet and then
just shocking.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Sixty six The Baba Duk decent, Okay, sixty five The
Incredible Shrinking Man not a horror film?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well yeah, I mean it's an incredible movie based on
a book by Richard Matheson, and I could watch that
any day. It's just it holds up wonderfully. But where's
the horror? Did they not have enough horror films to
choose from? As I can say, so they left out
then they could have put in instead.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
They must have, because as we get further in this list,
you'll realize that this is really not a horror list.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, The Shrinking Man should be on a list of
great sci fi movies. Sci Fi yes, sixty four, Planet Terror,
absolutely not Go to Hell sixty.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Three Doctor Jeff and mister Hyde. Sure, sure, right, sure?
Which version though? Which version today?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The thirty one version? Okay, yeah, there's several, just pick one. Yeah, yeah,
listen to this stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Coming in at number sixty two, okay, of the one
hundred best horror movies of all time, on a list
which saw Invasion of the Body Snatchers at ninety six
with Donald Sutherland with one of the most classic scenes
of all time, Jeff Gold it was a wonderful cast. Okay,
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that was ninety six. Coming in at number sixty two Grimlins, Well, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Not going to bad mouth Joe Dante. I think he's
a great director, but that doesn't belong there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's not a horror movie, not really. No, it's more
a Christmas movie than it is a horror movie. And it's.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's just not a horror movie. Whoever put that there
doesn't underst Dan Horror.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sixty one, Candy Man. I think it's on the list,
but I will put it closer to one hundred. Uh,
let's just keep moving. Okay. Number sixty Funny Games. Okay,
have you seen Funny Games to have it now? I
have not.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I you know, it's more suspense than horror, first of all,
and there's more than one version. There's an American version
as well.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I just recently watched it because I was morbidly curious
and was like, oh, that's like, what's the most twisted movie?
And a lot of things that came up was Funny Games,
and it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's pretty rough.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It makes those lists because it's absolutely neolistic and pointless.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah. Number fifty nine whatever happened to Baby Jane. Never
have seen that either by either by number fifty eight
Raw Eddie Murphy. No, not Well, it'd be a toss
up between that and the Raw that they did include.
I'm not a fan of the a that they put
on this list, and I've seen a lot of kind
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of if feat Film snobs praised that movie over the years,
and you were the first person to use feet on
the radio, and it makes me want to punch those
people in the neck. Number fifty seven Peeping Tom.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's decent, but it's not a horror film. Powell and Pressburger.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah. Number fifty six. I don't mind this movie, and
I don't mind it in this location.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The Fly, the Cronenberg Fly. Yes, yes, yeah, you know,
it might even be a little higher. Honestly, it's really a
wonderful film, and I just rewatched it for the first
time since it came out recently. It holds up phenomenal phenomena.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, and it's so it's such a sad movie because
you know, it only ends one way, and the ending
just leaves you sitting there with your mouth hanging all this. Yeah, yeah,
it's great. Number fifty five The Cabinet of Doctor Calgary Caligary.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Okay, yeah, you kind of have to have that because
it was one of the first fifty.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Four let the right one in. I didn't see this,
but I hear good things about it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, there's an American version and a foreign version, and
they're both very good.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Number fifty three. I've never understood this movie. I don't know.
I've never understood the appeal of this movie, but I
understand why as far as horror genre, it's on every list.
Eraser Head.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I saw that on a double bill when I was
a teenager, with the original Night of the Living Dead,
and I wasn't the same for several days afterward.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's messed up. Fifty two Blood and Black Lace of
sixty four.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Early Mario Bava. More of a giallo than a horror.
But whatever. Compared to some of the other outrages on
this list, it's not that bad. Number fifty one Irreversible.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Okay, do you know that movie? I do not.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It is a really intense movie about a rape that
is told backward. I think Gaspernoe was the director. It's
not a horror film. I mean, it's tough to get through,
but it's not a horror film. Number fifty only Baba
only Baba. Yeah, it's a I think Japanese horror film.
It's been years since I've seen it. That's quality.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Number forty nine The Witch twenty fifteen version.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Little great inflation, a little recency bias with that one.
It's very good, but it's not one of the hundred
best of all time. That's that Robert Eggers, isn't it. Yes,
now here is a debate to be had. Number forty
eight Alfred Hitchcock. I don't believe Alfred Hitchcock.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
All of his stuff was horror some of it was
more psychological thriller, I believe for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Forty eight The Birds, Well, I think The Birds kind
of is horror because you never get an explanation for
these bird attacks and it just abruptly ends. And when
you see somebody in the midst of a bird mailstrom
getting pecked to death, that sure is horrific.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Number forty seven, It's not a horror movie. It is
literally a different genre. Godzilla the nineteen fifty four version.
It's tragic. Godzilla goes to town and destroys the city.
But just because people die doesn't make it a horror movie. Well,
there's your side debate. Is a giant monster Kaiju movie
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really a horror movie? I'm not so sure it is.
Number forty six. Yes, it deserves to be on this list,
and yes it deserves to be higher on my list.
The nineteen eighty two movie The Thing Away Higher.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, it's brilliant and it was a flop when it
came out, and it's done nothing but gain cred over
the decades. It's I've seen that movie so many times.
I know it chapter and verse.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Number forty five The Invisible Ban Yes, just because yeahah,
Number number forty four Manhunter.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't know if it's horror, but it's one of
Michael Mann's greatest forty three Vampire p y r. The
Theatre Dryer, one thirty two Carl Theatre Dryer Yep, yep,
gotta have that.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Number forty two. I like this movie. I don't know
where I would place it. Twenty eight days Later, Oh,
way too high, way too high.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's a quality film and it's it's pretty tense and
even though the direct Danny Boyle insists it not, it's
not zombies.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's zombies. Number forty one The Devil's nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, that one's hard to find and it is really
a shocking ordeal of a movie to go through. If
you've never seen that, strap yourself in, track down a copy.
It's very good, and make sure you there's several different
versions floating around too. And that's like a side vocation
for people finding different versions of that to watch.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Last one for this break, number forty is Bride of Frankenstein. Yep. Absolutely,
one hundred percent. Should be way up high. It's later
with mo Kelly. More of the top one hundred horror movies.
According to some twelve year olds at Variety. When we
come back, don't go anywhere, we'll have more of some
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of the best of twenty twenty four as we listen back.
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If you're just joining us, you're listening to some of
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Later with Mo Kelly, we're counting down the top one
hundred horror movies of all time, or at least according
to Variety, and they're wrong. Coming in at number thirty
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nine is a freaking musical, Quieton. Are you sure that's
a musical. I don't think that's a musical. Oh well,
it seems like a musical.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, no, that's a Japanese horror film. It's okay, okay,
so that's a quality film. They didn't screw up on
that particular one. Okay, I take it back there. Number
thirty eight Freaks eighteen thirty two. Yeah, that's another one
that didn't do great when it came out, and it
kind of destroyed Todd Browning's career for a while because
nobody really wanted to see actual freaks in a movie.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But again.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Its reputation picked up over the years and now it's
considered a masterpiece.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Number thirty seven Deep red Profondo rosso.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, Dario Argento. I think Suspiria, which is way up higher,
belongs in front of it.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Though number thirty six Hereditary another great inflation the recency
bias rather than that doesn't belong that far. It's good, though,
shouldn't be on the list at all. Look, I don't
think anything made in the past ten years should be
on this list. I'm being honest. I think it has
to age like wine and let history tell the story
of its impact.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
So, you know, how like you've been saying, like children
were putting in charge of this list. Whoever was in
charge of writing Hereditary, I think they put their children
to let their kids do it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I thought Hereditary was a decent movie, but it's certainly
not one of the hundred greatest of all time. You know,
you are just shocked with your mouth hanging open within
the first few minutes of that, and the ending of
Hereditary is also one where you're just kinda that's a
talker when you're walking out of the theater. But not
not top one hundred material, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Number thirty five Invasion of the Body Snatcher is the
fifty six version, absolutely yeah, yep. Number thirty four Evil
Dead Too is better than that. No, it's good.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean, everybody loves it and I say move it
further down though, And I've written Evil Dead comics, so
I'm prone to like it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But I think they're rating it too high. Number thirty
three m as in the letter M. That's not a
horror film. No, it's okay, it doesn't matter. Number thirty
two The Night of the Hunter from nineteen fifty five, again.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Not a horror film, but an absolutely phenomenal one off
from Charles Lawton, who was an actor and it's the
only film he directed. If you haven't seen that, just
bump it way up to the top of your watch list.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's great already. One the Japanese movie Ring Wu. I
guess this is what the Ring was based on. Yeah, yeah,
I guess you kind of have that. That was one
of the couple that kicked off the whole Jay horror
tread yep. Number thirty Eyes Without a Face nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
You sends visage it's not that scary, but I guess
for the time it came out. It was kind of
shocking in terms of its subject matter. It's about a
surgeon who cuts faces off people to put him on,
I think his daughter who's disfigured, like the movie Face Off.
They're distant cousins man, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Number twenty nine Phantom of the Opera Yeah, why no, okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Which one? The twenty five version? Yeah, there's a hammer
version from I think the late fifties. That's pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Isn't that a musical? No? No, not that one. Well,
they're adaptation, yeah, Fanda.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh yeah, there's that Andrew Lloyd Webber War Crime, which
which that's a whole different list.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Number twenty eight The wicker Man absolutely a masterpiece. Yeah,
I'm thinking it might be higher. Yeah, and the Neil
Lebte remake. Seventy three Bees. Oh not the Bees.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
No, this one is fantastic. It's the best thing Edward
Woodward ever did. And Christopher Lee is magnificent in it too.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Twenty seven Dracula, Yeah, of course, which dracular? Thirty one okay, yeah,
twenty six The Innocence CNTs.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, Debra Carr. That's a great, great film. I think
it's based on Henry James Turn of the Screw. If
I'm remembering this right, you are. And it's a ghost story,
it's not so much a horror story, but it's it's
really good.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Number twenty five. I guess you could argue it's genre
defining for the decade Scream, but I don't think it's
a good movie.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'm not a fan of that at all. I don't
think it should be on this list.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Look, I can think of a bunch of other slasher
movies which were better than screen, but it was genre tofied.
It should just be lower, way lower. Number twenty four,
Get the f out of here. The Blair Witch Project,
Nollie Garbage. That movie was garbage, absolute it was a prank.
Number twenty three Daught of the Dead.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, one hundred percent deserves to be very high on
any list that that changed pop culture, and I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Twenty two Carnival of Souls.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I say, yes, Well that's where Romero, George Romero got
the idea for a Night of the living dead. It's
very spooky, not very scary. Number twenty one Black Sunday
didn't see this one?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Is that another pigblem? Yeah? I think that's an early Yellow,
not very scary. Number twenty. It was a good movie,
but I don't know if it's one of the top
one hundred and it's Yeah, I guess it's horror get out.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No way should that be anywhere near this high if
it's even on the list?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
No, I look, I thought it was a nice twist,
you know, in the movie. But whatever. No. Number nineteen
The Mummy. Yeah, which one thirty two? Uh huh? Number
eighteen We have not seen a lot from this creator
The Shining. Not a lot of Stephen King on this list,
as in none No, and Stephen King hates Stanley Kubrick's version. Yes,
(24:02):
there was a TV movie made of it. Mini series
is Stephen Weber a few years later that King actually
liked Number seventeen Diabolique. Yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's a little slow, but once you get to the scare,
you'll you'll know what happened.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Number sixteen, Yes, it is a classic horror movie, but
it's not better than The Shining. Number sixteen is Halloween. Sure,
you're right. Number fifteen, don't look now, didn't see that one?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh oh, that's amazing, and it's that's a grown up
horror film. Takes place in Venice. A couple is mourning
the loss of their daughter. It is messed up.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Number fourteen nos Faratu, a Symphony of Horror from twenty
two nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, that's the one that got banned because they they
were accused by Bram Stoker's The State of ripping off Dracula,
and so that almost disappeared. We almost don't have that today,
but yeah, that belongs there.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Thirteen. I can't argue with this. It might even be
higher on my personal list. The Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Again, whether or not it's a horror film is up
for debate, but it's great.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Number twelve. This is not a horror movie. If anything,
is closer to a love story than it is a
horror movie.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
King Kong, Oh, they can go soak their head. That's
a Kaiju movie.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah. Number eleven. Alien, I'll allow it, if only because
it was billed as a horror movie in space. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, Alien can do no wrong. Put it way up
on top of every list. It's a masterpiece of any kind.
The top ten.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Movies of all time as it relates to the horror genre,
according to Variety. When we come back, we're listening back
to some of our favorite conversations this year. It's Later
(25:58):
with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
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Speaker 1 (26:31):
A fi iHeartRadio. It's Later with mo Kelly and we're
listening back to when we counted down the top one
hundred horror movies of all time. Let's get this top
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ten out of the way of the one hundred best
horror movie of all time according to Variety. And I'm
quite sure this will make everyone mad or not. We'll
see coming in at number ten, and I agree it
should be on the list, maybe top twenty. I don't
know if I put it in the top ten. Carrie
nineteen seventy six. Boy, that's a little overrated.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's yeah, it's a decent film and a decent Stephen
King adaptation, but it doesn't belong that far up the list.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Number nine Salo, I've never seen that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's got quite a reputation for being just absolutely unbearably
disgusting torture porn.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Number eight Frankenstein nineteen thirty one.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The Russian judges will mark you way down if you
don't include that. It's one of the perfunctory ones.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Number seven Audition didn't see it nineteen ninety nine, way
way too high.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
It's slow and slow and slow until it's just unbelievably shocking,
and it's it may be your cup of tea, it
may not. Kind of a movie. Rollshock test. Number six,
Night of the Living Dead, I'll allow it.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yes. Number five Rosemary's Baby, I'll allow it. We can Masterpiece. Yeah,
we could debate whether it should be four, number three, whatever,
but top ten is fine. Yep. Number four Jaws not
a horror film. Is it a great movie? Yes? Is
it a classic? Yes? Is it a horror movie? Hell's no.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Fire all of these people who put this list together.
Fire them. That's like saying Star Wars is a war movie.
It really isn't It really isn't. Number three Psycho Yeah, sure, Yeah,
I was a horror film. I guess so, because you
stabbed someone in a shower. I guess it's absolutely brilliant,
(28:42):
society changing film.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But is it horror in the way that maybe Silence
of the Lambs is psychological?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That goes back to the debate about Hitchcock and his movies. Yeah, yeah,
I love the movie though.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Number two The Exorcist Absolutely, yeah, yeah, I think for
me personally and what I know about the genre generally,
that would be by number one, because every movie since
then has tried to duplicate the impact of the Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It really did change film in general. Film.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It wasn't just a great horror film. It was a
great movie that transcended the genre.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, I am working on a demonic possession project right now,
and I keep trying to not imitate stuff that I
saw in the Exorcist.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And number one, the greatest horror movie of all time,
according to Variety, is none other than The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know, that's a fair assessment of that. It could
have been any number of others, but that is an
incredible film, and I think it gets underrated for the
artistry that went into that. Toby Hooper And again, if
you're gonna have a Toby Hooper movie on the list,
polter guys should on here as well. But The Texas
Chainsaw Massacre is extremely messed up and made a huge
(30:05):
splash in the culture when it came out, and yet
for all the reputation that it's amassed, you never really
see that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Dunch, you know, the glaring omissions from this list if
you have a Nightmare on Elm Street, if you have
these genre defining movies of a decade or so, I
don't see how you can have a Texas Chainsaw massacre
and not have Ad Jason a Friday thirteenth somewhere in
the top one hundred.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
At least the first one. Maybe just the first one,
just the first one. Yeah, And where where's Luccio Fulci?
Where's the Beyond? And Zombie No?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah? I mean those names might not mean much.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
To non horror fans, but to horror fans those are
in the mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
How can you have a list of the best horror
movies of all time have a movie like Gremlins on
the list, but not have a movie like Pulture Guys
nineteen eighty two. It's and I'll listen to the argument
that it's not straight horror, but if you know the movie,
there are some definite horror moments in the movie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Also, where's Cannibal Holocaust? I'm not making that up either.
It's that was such a shocking film released around nineteen
eighty by an Italian director named Riggio Diadado. He had
to go to court to prove that it wasn't an
actual snuff film. It's a terribly shocking and it was
the first found footage horror movie as well.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
No Fantasm, Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, Don Coscarelli's terrific Fantasm is one of my favorites.
Fantasm Or. I mean, Coscarelli's done a bunch of really
good stuff. Even his John dies at the end movie
is magnificent. He's an incredible director and doesn't get the
credit he deserves.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Hey, I would put hell Razor one on here. I
would too. Yeah, I hate it when we agree, but
I would too. There are just some obvious omissions here.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like Martyrs, if you want one that was from the
last twenty years Martyrs. I got Foosh to watch Martyrs recently,
and I think it kind of did a number on
him and as it does on everybody who sees it.
Thought provoking, original, and definitely not American because it kind
of goes places that most American mainstream films wouldn't go.
(32:11):
Martyrs is terrific. That should be on there. The Tales
from the Crypt, some of these older ones from Amicus.
Amicus was a like second only to Hammer films in
the in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
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