September 21, 2024 • 29 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Hosts Tiffany Hobbs & Mark Rahner filling in for Mo’Kelly with thoughts on music mogul Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs being placed on 'suicide watch' while awaiting trial in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center, Comedian Ellen DeGeneres’ new Netflix stand-up special, “For Your Approval” AND Mark Rahner’s review of the new HBO Max series ‘The Penguin’ in ‘The Rahner Report’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm Tiffany Hobbs. That's Mark
Ronner across the table from me. About a year ago
right here on KFI, Moe and Tuala both predicted that
the me Too movement would hit the music industry, and
it has. It has hit the music industry with a sledgehammer.
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And Sean Combs, but are known as Diddy, is the
catalyst for this kind of uncovering of the sordidness or
the unscrupulous details of what goes on in the music industry,
as he is the latest subject to be discussed when
it comes to improprieties towards women and potentially others. He
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was just indicted, as you probably have heard thus far
on KFI and elsewhere, because it's everywhere, on multiple charge
charges of prostitution, human trafficking and other things involved in
his case, and in that indictment, many things have been unsealed.
We found out things that we didn't want to know.
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We found out things about baby oil and things about
other sorts of uses for things that Sean Didty Combs
had in his multiple homes where he was conducting these
lute and lavish parties.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I'm sure you know about that, Mark.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I think you're being vague now, but those do sound
like improprise to be.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm being a little, you know, a little conspicuous here
because it's still a family show, even though it's Friday night.
But Sean Diddy Combs was having a lot of fun
and fun that would be considered irresponsible, dangerous and predatory
for c for cligula.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Right, that would be an understatement.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, all of this to say, the details in the indictment,
of course, have been made public, and in the publicity
that Diddy is getting. There are lots of things happening,
lots of cards falling. We've seen resignations of prominent music
industry professionals and executives. There have been talks that more
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people will be exposed to have been connected to Ditty,
and it's kind of easy to assume that those facts
are probably on the way.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
In addition to all of this.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Ditty is now reportedly on suicide watch in the jail
that he is in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center. He was
arrested just this past Monday, and since then he has
been known to be suicidal. However, it's not fully known
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what he's expressed, the degree of his deterioration that he
is now in. But preventative measures have been taken to
secure Seawan Combs aka Ditty because quote, his mental state
is unclear, and this comes from people People was able
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to get some insight People Magazine as they do top
notch journal, top notch journal, So you can kind of
take some of this with the grain of salt. But
we do know that Sean Ditty Combs is now placed
on suicide watch and he is receiving that extra attention.
I wonder, as we've heard other prominent people who have
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been arrested and have been placed on suicide watch, if
this is not a common strategy to build a case.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Perhaps what for not guilty by reason of insanity? For
that I saw that viral video that everybody else saw
of him abusing his girlfriend Cassie Cassie v Interre in
the hotel hallway, just really intensely abusing her. And I'm
starting to get the impression that Didty is not a
very nice guy.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
In many people who are now unafraid to speak are
starting to chime in and offer their anecdotal evidence about
their experiences with Ditty. He asked, through his attorney Mark Agnifilo,
that he be moved or transferred to a prison in
Jersey because they felt that he might receive better treatment,
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you know, more fairness, if you will, And that was denied,
just like bail has been denied multiple times, and Didy
is under a very strict lock and key, so to speak,
because of the degree of the charges against him, that
the indictment is salacious at the least.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, let him cool his heels in jail. I think
it was what three times he applied for home confinement
and the judges shot that down every single time. That's okay,
he can stay behind bars. I don't want him to
commit suicide. Actually, back when I was writing Twilight Zone comics,
I wrote a story about sort of a dick Cheney
guy who was going to be forced in some supernatural
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way to answer for his crimes. And the person who
got a wish like a monkey's paw type wished wished
that the character didn't die from his heart ailments because
he wanted him to spend a long time in prison.
Now there's a twist of the story that you got
to go read the story to find out. But I
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don't ever wish for the worst for people like Diddy
who just sound like terrible human beings. I want them
to be healthy so that they have to answer for
everything that they've done and spend a while in the
old Big House.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And another person who is speaking out against what's going
on or speaking about what's going on, as Justin Bieber,
who collaborated with Puff Daddy p Diddy, Sean Combs years
ago and sense and he says essentially that he's trying
to make sense of all the allegations and that he's
grappling with them. Give that he has collaborated with Sean
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Combs in the past. We're going to shift gears from
one celebrity to another. Another celebrity who herself has come
under fire, has been in hot water. That is Ellen Degenerous,
and we'll talk about Ellen when we come back.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Six forty, Mark Ronner with Tiffany Hobbs in for motornight,
Moe was in for Conway.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We all just rotated over a chair.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You usually musical chairs in the studio.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's what it is. We go where we're needed. You
usually hear me anchoring the news here and now it's
Heather Brooker, and you usually hear Tiffany hosting.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
One Saturdays Wednesdays.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I'm all over the way whenever you hear the clarion call.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So Tiffany, you like that? Ellen?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know I am a fan of Ellen Degenerous.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I loved her show, her series.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I found her to be witty and quick and really
funny and re freshing for the times. I loved when
she started to express who she was in her personal
life and we got to meet more of who Ellen
DeGeneres is beyond the stardom. And then I was really
disheartened a couple of years ago to read reports that
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she might not be as kind.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Well, I feel like portrays yourself.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
We're getting into this continuum that we started with talking
about Diddy, which is I think getting too famous drives
people nuts. But not a lot of people get famous enough,
by the way, for that one name thing, Ellen share.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I'm not thinking of Ellen Pompeo, No disrespect to her.
She's a great actress, but she's not who first comes
to mind.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
It's Elon how do you like that? Uh, degenerous, Let's
keep moving.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Ellen DeGeneres has a special coming up on Netflix Monday
twenty fourth. It's called for Your Approval, and she says
she will talk about getting canceled.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Fush.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
If you can bring up the trailer while I'm yapping
and let me know, we'll go to it. But I'm
just going to start going here. It sounds good and
I'm probably going to watch the special. And if you
are not up to speed on Ellen Gate, I just
invented that word. I hope it sticks there. As Tiffany indicated,
there were reports of behaving monstrously the people behind the scenes,
and that just about sums it up without getting into
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every single detail.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
She's nasty, just a mean person.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I don't know how much was true, but there were
enough people complaining that you kind of figured there had
to be something to it. I mean to put it
in another way, if one woman accused a guy of
sexual assault, it might be nothing or he said, she said.
But if a couple doesn't do maybe you got to
cosby situation on your hands, something to take note of,
one way or the other. Now, I was never a
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viewer of her daytime show, but she seemed fairly benign.
Some people I respect who were viewers, seem to think
she was cool. I think Harlan Ellison really looked up
to her, liked her, and his word was good enough
for me. But then those allegations from employees came out
or I guess ex employees, and they began getting hard
to avoid, and she went away for a while. Doesn't
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seem like long. She certainly has to be several orders
of magnitude past comfortable, so I wasn't worried about if
she was going to get food on the table.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Who's has that clip for you? If you're ready, let's
hear at fush.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
All right, Well, let me catch up on what's been
going on with me since you saw me last. I
decided to take up gardening, I got chickens. Let me
see what else I can tell you about that. What's
been going on? Oh yeah, I got kicked out of
show business. Yeah yeah, the bee kind girl wasn't kind?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That was the headline. Here's the problem.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
People would have been pleasantly surprised to find out I'm kind.
Most women aren't raised with confidence. We're too self conscious,
which is why you rarely see a woman playing air guitar.
I didn't go into this business for money. It was
about healing my childhood wounds. I thought, if I could
make people happy, then they'll like me, and if they
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like me, I'll feel good about myself. And all I
can say about that is thank God for the money.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Foosh, did you hit the dump on that bomb? There? Yeah? Okay,
thank you Ellen.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Now that Ellen's back, she's gonna tell us all about
getting canceled. And you know, the saddest, most unfair thing
about cancel culture, the biggest outrage when you've been canceled
so hard that you get a Netflix special to complain
about it, which can be seen by millions of people
all over the world. And also when you get paid
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an enormous amount of money for it. What does she
make for this? I don't know, But man, that cancel culture.
I don't know why we tolerated. Oh wait, I just
remembered why it doesn't exist. There's no such thing as
cancel culture. No matter what Bill Maher or any other
whiner or workers of the ref try to tell you,
there's no cancel culture.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Just go away for a while, come back, rebrand, restructure,
try it again.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, sometimes it's just a perfectly reasonable reaction to people
who do despicable things. You know, yes, we call that consequences.
Also that sometimes people are held accountable for saying and
doing things that are wrong or nasty or abusive or monstrous,
but a lot of the times they're not. In fact,
most of the time they're not. If I'm with you
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and we're talking and I see you kick a cat,
or I hear you say something grotesquely racist, just for instance,
I'm not going to want to hang out with you
a lot anymore. And if you're a famous person and
you turn out to be a creep, I don't want
to do anything to you, but it's my business. If
I don't want to read or watch your stuff or
listen to your music, is that cancel culture? I think
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it's just a good old free market that so many
people pay lip service to, and the good old free
market at work, and some people can't stand it when
it doesn't go their way, can they?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So do you feel like Ellen is making kind of
a mountain out of a mole hill, Like this is just,
you know, kind of her being whiny?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I think that I got you there.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
If things don't go people's way. It just always seems
like it's rigged. They get canceled because it's got to
be rigged. Cancel culture. If people have to suffer any
consequences for anything they do, it's got to be communism
or something like that. It's a little like Elon Musk
trying to sue advertisers for not advertising on Twitter after
he told them to go at themselves. Now, I'm not
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saying there aren't some victims of cancel culture.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It's just rare.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
And I'll tell you honestly, what keeps coming to mind
to me is Kathy Griffin. She got canceled for a
comedic photo with an obviously phony Trump head that I
thought fell well within the normal bounds of satire. First Amendment.
But she got torched. That was some cancel culture.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Ellen. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean, I'm happy to pay my monthly Netflix bill
so I can hear Ellen talk about how she's been
canceled and kicked out a show business, after which she'll
go home to her opulent mansion and I will be
sitting in the small place I rent doing fist pumps
in the.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Air in support of her.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I wonder if there's going to be a number on
the screen where we can send donations, or a QR code.
That's what people use now, right, Tiffany, That's a QR
code because otherwise I might send Ellen a paper check
and now that I think of it, that could possibly
cause an inconvenience for her. When we come back, we
are going to talk about a Chinese zoo and a
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panda scandal.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Story is a mess. It's a hot mess.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
More hot mess coming up after this KFI AM six
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Speaker 1 (13:49):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (13:55):
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
It's Later with Mo Kelly, Tifny Hobbes. That's Mark Ronner.
Zoos a cont controversial topic unto themselves, and they're more
controversial now more than ever, with people weighing between their
morals and their ethics and of caging or the pinning
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of wild animals. Do you visit do you partake in
something that you might not necessarily feel is just or kind?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well, people do, and people love zoos.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Maybe it's the La zoo that you visit or the
San Diego Zoo, or if you're lucky, you've traveled out
of the country and perhaps you've landed yourself at a
zoo in China. And if you have gone to a
specific zoo in China, you might have learned that that
zoo does not necessarily subscribe to the same brand of
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professional integrity that you might expect. And what am I
talking about, Mark Ronner? I'm talking about pandas, but not
the pandas you might be thinking of, Josh Marcandas. Chinese
zoogoers are barking mad.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
See what I did there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Well, then, after.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Learning that the alleged pandas that they visited at the
Shane Way Zoo were just dogs painted to look like pandas, do.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
People know they're pandas? You don't screw with them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You do not screw with these people. However, they were
in fact duped and the deception was uncovered by visitors
after one of these so called pandas. These pandas began
barking and panting like a dog as they were in
their pin and people were watching.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I don't know if pandas sniffed each other's butts here
you really want to watch for the telltale signs that
it's not a panda.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Of course, there's video footage of all of this that happened.
And these dogs, these pan dogs, and to make their
make their moves around their pen, two pandas were roaming
around the enclosure and you could even see their curly
little tails, their little dogtails. At first, the zoo tried
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to kind of avoid everything. They didn't want to deal
with the allegations. They were just pushing them aside, claiming
that the dogs were a special breed of panda called
panda dogs.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
They were really stretching here.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Something from the island of Doctor Morrow constructed specific eyes situation.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
God can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And Zoogoers who were there said that they refused to
accept this claim. So the officials at the zoo were
trying to kind of quell the unrest.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Quell the confusion, and no, no, no, these.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Are not dogs.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
These are pan dogs, the special kind. And the zoogoers
were not trying to go for that mark. They said, no,
these are dogs. We want our money back. Unfortunately, the
zoo did in fact issue refunds.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
But here's the kicker.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
This is not the first time that this.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Specific zoo, or any or others in China, and I
don't know about all of them, but there are a few.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
This seems to be an epidemic.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
There are a few zoos in China have tried to
swap out actual pandas for dogs or dogs for pandas.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
This is a massive panda scandal and I will not
tolerate it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Back in May, another zoo pulled off a similar scheme,
and in this case they did apologize. They said, quote,
there are no panda bears at the zoo and we
want it to do this as a result, as its
single tear dripped down the zoo official's face.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You can kind of go either way on this, couldn't you.
It's either an admirable attempt to get scrappy and try,
you know, let's put the gang together and put on
a show or imagine, or else they're just filthy, frauds
and criminals.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Which where you.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I think I'm gonna go with the ladder, maybe with
the sprinkle of the former. And the funny thing is
they said that they were using chows. Chows that's the
breed of dogs, because they're popular in China and this
particular region of the world and chows, if you know,
are already unhinged as dogs. They are unruly. I'm a
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dog lover. I can call out a dog, you know,
I know dog temperament. Chows are not dogs who are
interested in being tamed. They are themselves very wild. So
to try and pass them off as kind of a
docile sort of animal, something quiet, something that might just
sit there and play nice. And to see that these dogs,
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these pan dogs are roaming around the enclosure, raising their
legs to urinate as dogs do with one leg up,
or sniffing at themselves, or barking and panting.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
There may be some key differences. Always look at the urination.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Is insane that they try to do this, So Chow's
not what you want.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
What do you want if you're going to try and
pass off a dog as a panda? Is that you
want to sharpay and you can you can tell the people, Okay,
you got to paint it the colors, but you tell
the people it has it has a skin condition. It's
it lost a bunch of weight and it's saggy now,
and it's got to get some surgery to take care
of all the loose skins.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You know, kind of a circumcision if you will, perhaps right,
please please, sorry too soon? A little sensitive, no pun intended.
My question is where are the pandas well?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
There's some in San Diego, they got a couple, but
people who don't have pandas want them. There may be
a global panda shortage and people should be supplied pandas
as needed.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
What's going on in China where that pandas aren't available
for year?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Zoo?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And you have to try and pull off this scheme
of sorts and pull one over on your.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'm scrolling through all the possible responses like a terminator cyborg,
and every single one of them is guaranteed to get
me fired. I wonder what could be happening to the
adorable zoo animals in China? And I think I had
better not say anything else other than that.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
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Speaker 3 (20:54):
Well, we come back. We're going to have the Runner Report.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
We're moving from pandas to penguin, pandas to penguins.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
That's not what I thought you were going to say,
and I am grateful for it.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
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Speaker 4 (21:35):
It's Later with Mo Kelly on KF I AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm Mark Ronner
here with Tiffany Hobbs. This is the Runner Report. If
you are a fan of, say David Attenborough's wildlife documentaries,
you're going to be disappointed to hear that the new
Penguin series on HBO, I mean Max has nothing to
do with cute little flightless birds on ice floes who
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mate for life. Here's one of the trailers for Foosh.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
You know what I like most about you, eys, You
are who you are.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It couldn't change if you tried.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It's fine. I'm gonna quiet taste everything you hide about me.
This trouble awesome. Do what it takes.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh, you're so close now having everything you ever wanted.
So much was taken from me, so I'm gonna take
from them now. Down together forces everyone.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
To their knees because a storm covered. It's not a
whole in the way, but what I've benna tell stories
about us. I'm gonna get a new king binnagott them
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all right.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Nothing cute about that. It's a spin off set in
the universe, said Matt Reeves. The Batman movie that had
Robert Pattinson as Batman. It's gritty, it's violent, there's no
Batman in it, and it's a crime slash mob story.
This Penguin show takes place after the events of that
Batman movie and it appears to be the gritty, violent
saga of how Oz Cobb. Yeah, they changed it from
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Oswald Cobblepot to make it sound like someone more gritty
and violent.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
He climbs the gritty, violent.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Ladder to become whatever he's destined to become, presumably a
crime boss and not so much the quirky villain with
a variety of gadget umbrellas. I say presumably because there's
only one episode of the eight out so far and
I watched it last night. Kristin Miliotti plays the crazy
adult daughter the crime family who's going to be either
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his adversary or his love interest or both. You may
remember her from a really good Black Mirror episode that
spoofs Star Trek, but she's been a prolific actress for
a while, and it's cool to see her headlining something
you're not in your head like you're familiar with this actress.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I am.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'm a Black Mirror fan, and Kristin MILAATEI I thought
it was mil Miliadi. I'm sorry I didn't enlarge the
spelling here. Christin Miliatti. She's fantastic in that episode. It's
that goodness. I can't remember the name of it, but yeah,
she plays a tortured character and she does it very well.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, she plays somebody who's one of the blue Shirts
that you think is a side character and a Star
Trek spoof and winds up becoming the central character. And
if you haven't seen it, I don't want to spoil
it anymore for you.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Then she's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
As you might have heard by now, Colin Ferrell plays
the Penguin with a pretty ridiculous, exaggerated New Yoick accent.
Although it's always funny to me to hear how people
from other countries think we sound. Generally, they think we
sound like morons. I was visiting a friend in York,
England a number of years ago, and I said, I
made the mistake of saying you all in a conversation,
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and my god, my friend and his mom couldn't stop
shrieking with laughter.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
They couldn't stop.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Buddy of mine named Glass would absolutely kill with his
bonehead Yankee accent accent.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Like, hey, what are you bastards doing?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Come on, guys, So that's what they think we sound like,
so irishman Colin Ferrell doing what he thinks is in
New York. Sorry, I mean Gotham accent. I would say, okay,
it's a comic book show, but we're going to get
back to that Farrell's also buried in a fat suit
and prosthetics, to the point that he kind of looks
like Tony Soprano. But if Tony had been hauled out
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of the water after a week in the old cement
shoes and the fish had been nibbling at him, not
It's a visual, not what you'd call a looker. Oz
takes on a young apprentice to help him in his scheme,
in which he seems way over his head.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Now, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Maybe it's supposed to be a Robin analog the young Kid,
but nobody is in any fun costumes. I feel like
I'm supposed to like the penguin, but instead I just
found myself wondering when this stuff stopped being fun. And
I can tell you the answer to that. If anyone
wants to get in the time machine and travel back
to nineteen eighty six, you can prevent all of this
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by stopping the publication of Frank Miller's Batman The Dark
Knight Returns and Alan Moore's Watchman. They both came out
in the same year. They're both fantastic books too, but
they were so influential that they changed the whole superhero
comic book, movie, TV industry into a weird assembly line
of middle aged dudes taking these tall tale heroes they
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loved when they were ten years old twelve years old
and trying to make them realistic and gritty violent. Some
of it's good, but it's an inherently silly project. I mean,
the Penguin was created in Batman comics more than eighty
years ago, and he came out of the sensibilities of
that time. I mean, what's coming next from the world
of Matt Reeves the Penguin? Maybe a gritty, violent mad
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Hatter series. Was he an asylum seeker and some idiot
thought he came from an actual asylum.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
How about an ultra.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Dark Mister Freeze show, Like Mister Freeze could be a
dermatologist who freezes off words and he's just pushed too far,
too far. Those would probably be more watchable than that
Miserable Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Did you like that?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
You know, as you are not interested in Transformers, I've
not gotten into the latest iteration of the Batman, the Joker,
all of this that type of stuff the last few years.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I this is the minority opinion. It was a really
successful movie. It did shockingly well for a super villain
story by a way of Martin Scorsese, and we're gonna
sequel to that shortly, whether we like it or not.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I'm saying the Penguin just didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Wake for me, even though I understand other people are
praising it before. It's pulpy aesthetic and for the performances.
I just kept thinking to myself, what are we doing here?
What's the poipois not porpoise purpose? You're not selling me
on this. You're trying to sell me something that I'm
not sure I need. But I'm open if it's a knockout.
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And it's not a knockout. This Penguin feels like it
was made for people who would never pick up a
comic book. It wants their respect. It's embarrassed of coming
from a comic book.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
It's trying.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Here's let me put it in a different way. The
Penguin is trying to pass. They even changed Oswald Cobblepot
to Oz Cobb, like an immigrant from the old days,
trying to americanize his name. Jesus, stop trying so hard
to make inherently silly children's characters edgy for adults all
the time. Remember Green Lantern. You know, I don't know
how well known that character is, but he's also from
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DC like Batman in the Justice League. Green Lantern had
a sidekick in the old days called pie Face, who
was a young Inuit. Now they stop using pie Face
and gave him a name because pie Face is offensive.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
It's offensive as hell.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
But now I can see kind of an HBO series
called Pie which would be like a gritty, violent and
ultimately uplifting story of a young Inuit struggles against racism
in the I don't know Alaskan gang world until he
meets this heroic white test pilot, But Green Lantern never
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appears in the show. Actually, don't don't steal that idea. Listen,
I haven't a liked the Burgess Meredith Batman from the
old TV show. The point is that it's a comic
book villain called the Penguin who's the enemy of a
comic book hero who dresses in a batsuit. How realistic,
sir or ma'am? Do you need this to be? Do
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you need ingmar Bergman to do a drama about how
Penguin's mate for life?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
No, get out of here.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
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You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm Tiffany Hobbs. That's Mark
Ronner across the table from me. About a year ago
right here on KFI, Moe and Tuala both predicted that
the me Too movement would hit the music industry, and
it has. It has hit the music industry with a sledgehammer.
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And Sean Combs, but are known as Diddy, is the
catalyst for this kind of uncovering of the sordidness or
the unscrupulous details of what goes on in the music industry,
as he is the latest subject to be discussed when
it comes to improprieties towards women and potentially others. He
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was just indicted, as you probably have heard thus far
on KFI and elsewhere, because it's everywhere, on multiple charge
charges of prostitution, human trafficking and other things involved in
his case, and in that indictment, many things have been unsealed.
We found out things that we didn't want to know.
(01:14):
We found out things about baby oil and things about
other sorts of uses for things that Sean Didty Combs
had in his multiple homes where he was conducting these
lute and lavish parties.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I'm sure you know about that, Mark.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I think you're being vague now, but those do sound
like improprise to be.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm being a little, you know, a little conspicuous here
because it's still a family show, even though it's Friday night.
But Sean Diddy Combs was having a lot of fun
and fun that would be considered irresponsible, dangerous and predatory
for c for cligula.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Right, that would be an understatement.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, all of this to say, the details in the indictment,
of course, have been made public, and in the publicity
that Diddy is getting. There are lots of things happening,
lots of cards falling. We've seen resignations of prominent music
industry professionals and executives. There have been talks that more
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people will be exposed to have been connected to Ditty,
and it's kind of easy to assume that those facts
are probably on the way.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
In addition to all of this.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Ditty is now reportedly on suicide watch in the jail
that he is in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center. He was
arrested just this past Monday, and since then he has
been known to be suicidal. However, it's not fully known
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what he's expressed, the degree of his deterioration that he
is now in. But preventative measures have been taken to
secure Seawan Combs aka Ditty because quote, his mental state
is unclear, and this comes from people People was able
(03:13):
to get some insight People Magazine as they do top
notch journal, top notch journal, So you can kind of
take some of this with the grain of salt. But
we do know that Sean Ditty Combs is now placed
on suicide watch and he is receiving that extra attention.
I wonder, as we've heard other prominent people who have
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been arrested and have been placed on suicide watch, if
this is not a common strategy to build a case.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Perhaps what for not guilty by reason of insanity? For
that I saw that viral video that everybody else saw
of him abusing his girlfriend Cassie Cassie v Interre in
the hotel hallway, just really intensely abusing her. And I'm
starting to get the impression that Didty is not a
very nice guy.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
In many people who are now unafraid to speak are
starting to chime in and offer their anecdotal evidence about
their experiences with Ditty. He asked, through his attorney Mark Agnifilo,
that he be moved or transferred to a prison in
Jersey because they felt that he might receive better treatment,
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you know, more fairness, if you will, And that was denied,
just like bail has been denied multiple times, and Didy
is under a very strict lock and key, so to speak,
because of the degree of the charges against him, that
the indictment is salacious at the least.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, let him cool his heels in jail. I think
it was what three times he applied for home confinement
and the judges shot that down every single time. That's okay,
he can stay behind bars. I don't want him to
commit suicide. Actually, back when I was writing Twilight Zone comics,
I wrote a story about sort of a dick Cheney
guy who was going to be forced in some supernatural
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way to answer for his crimes. And the person who
got a wish like a monkey's paw type wished wished
that the character didn't die from his heart ailments because
he wanted him to spend a long time in prison.
Now there's a twist of the story that you got
to go read the story to find out. But I
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don't ever wish for the worst for people like Diddy
who just sound like terrible human beings. I want them
to be healthy so that they have to answer for
everything that they've done and spend a while in the
old Big House.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And another person who is speaking out against what's going
on or speaking about what's going on, as Justin Bieber,
who collaborated with Puff Daddy p Diddy, Sean Combs years
ago and sense and he says essentially that he's trying
to make sense of all the allegations and that he's
grappling with them. Give that he has collaborated with Sean
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Combs in the past. We're going to shift gears from
one celebrity to another. Another celebrity who herself has come
under fire, has been in hot water. That is Ellen Degenerous,
and we'll talk about Ellen when we come back.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Six forty, Mark Ronner with Tiffany Hobbs in for motornight,
Moe was in for Conway.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We all just rotated over a chair.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You usually musical chairs in the studio.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's what it is. We go where we're needed. You
usually hear me anchoring the news here and now it's
Heather Brooker, and you usually hear Tiffany hosting.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
One Saturdays Wednesdays.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I'm all over the way whenever you hear the clarion call.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So Tiffany, you like that? Ellen?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know I am a fan of Ellen Degenerous.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I loved her show, her series.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I found her to be witty and quick and really
funny and re freshing for the times. I loved when
she started to express who she was in her personal
life and we got to meet more of who Ellen
DeGeneres is beyond the stardom. And then I was really
disheartened a couple of years ago to read reports that
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she might not be as kind.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Well, I feel like portrays yourself.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
We're getting into this continuum that we started with talking
about Diddy, which is I think getting too famous drives
people nuts. But not a lot of people get famous enough,
by the way, for that one name thing, Ellen share.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I'm not thinking of Ellen Pompeo, No disrespect to her.
She's a great actress, but she's not who first comes
to mind.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
It's Elon how do you like that? Uh, degenerous, Let's
keep moving.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Ellen DeGeneres has a special coming up on Netflix Monday
twenty fourth. It's called for Your Approval, and she says
she will talk about getting canceled.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Fush.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
If you can bring up the trailer while I'm yapping
and let me know, we'll go to it. But I'm
just going to start going here. It sounds good and
I'm probably going to watch the special. And if you
are not up to speed on Ellen Gate, I just
invented that word. I hope it sticks there. As Tiffany indicated,
there were reports of behaving monstrously the people behind the scenes,
and that just about sums it up without getting into
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every single detail.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
She's nasty, just a mean person.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I don't know how much was true, but there were
enough people complaining that you kind of figured there had
to be something to it. I mean to put it
in another way, if one woman accused a guy of
sexual assault, it might be nothing or he said, she said.
But if a couple doesn't do maybe you got to
cosby situation on your hands, something to take note of,
one way or the other. Now, I was never a
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viewer of her daytime show, but she seemed fairly benign.
Some people I respect who were viewers, seem to think
she was cool. I think Harlan Ellison really looked up
to her, liked her, and his word was good enough
for me. But then those allegations from employees came out
or I guess ex employees, and they began getting hard
to avoid, and she went away for a while. Doesn't
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seem like long. She certainly has to be several orders
of magnitude past comfortable, so I wasn't worried about if
she was going to get food on the table.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Who's has that clip for you? If you're ready, let's
hear at fush.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
All right, Well, let me catch up on what's been
going on with me since you saw me last. I
decided to take up gardening, I got chickens. Let me
see what else I can tell you about that. What's
been going on? Oh yeah, I got kicked out of
show business. Yeah yeah, the bee kind girl wasn't kind?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That was the headline. Here's the problem.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
People would have been pleasantly surprised to find out I'm kind.
Most women aren't raised with confidence. We're too self conscious,
which is why you rarely see a woman playing air guitar.
I didn't go into this business for money. It was
about healing my childhood wounds. I thought, if I could
make people happy, then they'll like me, and if they
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like me, I'll feel good about myself. And all I
can say about that is thank God for the money.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Foosh, did you hit the dump on that bomb? There? Yeah? Okay,
thank you Ellen.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Now that Ellen's back, she's gonna tell us all about
getting canceled. And you know, the saddest, most unfair thing
about cancel culture, the biggest outrage when you've been canceled
so hard that you get a Netflix special to complain
about it, which can be seen by millions of people
all over the world. And also when you get paid
(10:38):
an enormous amount of money for it. What does she
make for this? I don't know, But man, that cancel culture.
I don't know why we tolerated. Oh wait, I just
remembered why it doesn't exist. There's no such thing as
cancel culture. No matter what Bill Maher or any other
whiner or workers of the ref try to tell you,
there's no cancel culture.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Just go away for a while, come back, rebrand, restructure,
try it again.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, sometimes it's just a perfectly reasonable reaction to people
who do despicable things. You know, yes, we call that consequences.
Also that sometimes people are held accountable for saying and
doing things that are wrong or nasty or abusive or monstrous,
but a lot of the times they're not. In fact,
most of the time they're not. If I'm with you
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and we're talking and I see you kick a cat,
or I hear you say something grotesquely racist, just for instance,
I'm not going to want to hang out with you
a lot anymore. And if you're a famous person and
you turn out to be a creep, I don't want
to do anything to you, but it's my business. If
I don't want to read or watch your stuff or
listen to your music, is that cancel culture? I think
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it's just a good old free market that so many
people pay lip service to, and the good old free
market at work, and some people can't stand it when
it doesn't go their way, can they?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So do you feel like Ellen is making kind of
a mountain out of a mole hill, Like this is just,
you know, kind of her being whiny?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I think that I got you there.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
If things don't go people's way. It just always seems
like it's rigged. They get canceled because it's got to
be rigged. Cancel culture. If people have to suffer any
consequences for anything they do, it's got to be communism
or something like that. It's a little like Elon Musk
trying to sue advertisers for not advertising on Twitter after
he told them to go at themselves. Now, I'm not
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saying there aren't some victims of cancel culture.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It's just rare.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
And I'll tell you honestly, what keeps coming to mind
to me is Kathy Griffin. She got canceled for a
comedic photo with an obviously phony Trump head that I
thought fell well within the normal bounds of satire. First Amendment.
But she got torched. That was some cancel culture.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Ellen. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean, I'm happy to pay my monthly Netflix bill
so I can hear Ellen talk about how she's been
canceled and kicked out a show business, after which she'll
go home to her opulent mansion and I will be
sitting in the small place I rent doing fist pumps
in the.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Air in support of her.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I wonder if there's going to be a number on
the screen where we can send donations, or a QR code.
That's what people use now, right, Tiffany, That's a QR
code because otherwise I might send Ellen a paper check
and now that I think of it, that could possibly
cause an inconvenience for her. When we come back, we
are going to talk about a Chinese zoo and a
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panda scandal.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Story is a mess. It's a hot mess.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
More hot mess coming up after this KFI AM six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
It's Later with Mo Kelly, Tifny Hobbes. That's Mark Ronner.
Zoos a cont controversial topic unto themselves, and they're more
controversial now more than ever, with people weighing between their
morals and their ethics and of caging or the pinning
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of wild animals. Do you visit do you partake in
something that you might not necessarily feel is just or kind?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well, people do, and people love zoos.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Maybe it's the La zoo that you visit or the
San Diego Zoo, or if you're lucky, you've traveled out
of the country and perhaps you've landed yourself at a
zoo in China. And if you have gone to a
specific zoo in China, you might have learned that that
zoo does not necessarily subscribe to the same brand of
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professional integrity that you might expect. And what am I
talking about, Mark Ronner? I'm talking about pandas, but not
the pandas you might be thinking of, Josh Marcandas. Chinese
zoogoers are barking mad.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
See what I did there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Well, then, after.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Learning that the alleged pandas that they visited at the
Shane Way Zoo were just dogs painted to look like pandas, do.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
People know they're pandas? You don't screw with them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You do not screw with these people. However, they were
in fact duped and the deception was uncovered by visitors
after one of these so called pandas. These pandas began
barking and panting like a dog as they were in
their pin and people were watching.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I don't know if pandas sniffed each other's butts here
you really want to watch for the telltale signs that
it's not a panda.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Of course, there's video footage of all of this that happened.
And these dogs, these pan dogs, and to make their
make their moves around their pen, two pandas were roaming
around the enclosure and you could even see their curly
little tails, their little dogtails. At first, the zoo tried
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to kind of avoid everything. They didn't want to deal
with the allegations. They were just pushing them aside, claiming
that the dogs were a special breed of panda called
panda dogs.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
They were really stretching here.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Something from the island of Doctor Morrow constructed specific eyes situation.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
God can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And Zoogoers who were there said that they refused to
accept this claim. So the officials at the zoo were
trying to kind of quell the unrest.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Quell the confusion, and no, no, no, these.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Are not dogs.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
These are pan dogs, the special kind. And the zoogoers
were not trying to go for that mark. They said, no,
these are dogs. We want our money back. Unfortunately, the
zoo did in fact issue refunds.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
But here's the kicker.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
This is not the first time that this.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Specific zoo, or any or others in China, and I
don't know about all of them, but there are a few.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
This seems to be an epidemic.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
There are a few zoos in China have tried to
swap out actual pandas for dogs or dogs for pandas.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
This is a massive panda scandal and I will not
tolerate it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Back in May, another zoo pulled off a similar scheme,
and in this case they did apologize. They said, quote,
there are no panda bears at the zoo and we
want it to do this as a result, as its
single tear dripped down the zoo official's face.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You can kind of go either way on this, couldn't you.
It's either an admirable attempt to get scrappy and try,
you know, let's put the gang together and put on
a show or imagine, or else they're just filthy, frauds
and criminals.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Which where you.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I think I'm gonna go with the ladder, maybe with
the sprinkle of the former. And the funny thing is
they said that they were using chows. Chows that's the
breed of dogs, because they're popular in China and this
particular region of the world and chows, if you know,
are already unhinged as dogs. They are unruly. I'm a
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dog lover. I can call out a dog, you know,
I know dog temperament. Chows are not dogs who are
interested in being tamed. They are themselves very wild. So
to try and pass them off as kind of a
docile sort of animal, something quiet, something that might just
sit there and play nice. And to see that these dogs,
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these pan dogs are roaming around the enclosure, raising their
legs to urinate as dogs do with one leg up,
or sniffing at themselves, or barking and panting.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
There may be some key differences. Always look at the urination.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Is insane that they try to do this, So Chow's
not what you want.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
What do you want if you're going to try and
pass off a dog as a panda? Is that you
want to sharpay and you can you can tell the people, Okay,
you got to paint it the colors, but you tell
the people it has it has a skin condition. It's
it lost a bunch of weight and it's saggy now,
and it's got to get some surgery to take care
of all the loose skins.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You know, kind of a circumcision if you will, perhaps right,
please please, sorry too soon? A little sensitive, no pun intended.
My question is where are the pandas well?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
There's some in San Diego, they got a couple, but
people who don't have pandas want them. There may be
a global panda shortage and people should be supplied pandas
as needed.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
What's going on in China where that pandas aren't available
for year?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Zoo?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And you have to try and pull off this scheme
of sorts and pull one over on your.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'm scrolling through all the possible responses like a terminator cyborg,
and every single one of them is guaranteed to get
me fired. I wonder what could be happening to the
adorable zoo animals in China? And I think I had
better not say anything else other than that.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
We have a lot more show to do. But before
we do, go for it.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
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Speaker 3 (20:54):
Well, we come back. We're going to have the Runner Report.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
We're moving from pandas to penguin, pandas to penguins.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
That's not what I thought you were going to say,
and I am grateful for it.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from KFI,
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Forty keys, pop Culture, ron and Report with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
It's Later with Mo Kelly on KF I AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm Mark Ronner
here with Tiffany Hobbs. This is the Runner Report. If
you are a fan of, say David Attenborough's wildlife documentaries,
you're going to be disappointed to hear that the new
Penguin series on HBO, I mean Max has nothing to
do with cute little flightless birds on ice floes who
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mate for life. Here's one of the trailers for Foosh.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
You know what I like most about you, eys, You
are who you are.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It couldn't change if you tried.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It's fine. I'm gonna quiet taste everything you hide about me.
This trouble awesome. Do what it takes.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh, you're so close now having everything you ever wanted.
So much was taken from me, so I'm gonna take
from them now. Down together forces everyone.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
To their knees because a storm covered. It's not a
whole in the way, but what I've benna tell stories
about us. I'm gonna get a new king binnagott them
(22:56):
all right.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Nothing cute about that. It's a spin off set in
the universe, said Matt Reeves. The Batman movie that had
Robert Pattinson as Batman. It's gritty, it's violent, there's no
Batman in it, and it's a crime slash mob story.
This Penguin show takes place after the events of that
Batman movie and it appears to be the gritty, violent
saga of how Oz Cobb. Yeah, they changed it from
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Oswald Cobblepot to make it sound like someone more gritty
and violent.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
He climbs the gritty, violent.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Ladder to become whatever he's destined to become, presumably a
crime boss and not so much the quirky villain with
a variety of gadget umbrellas. I say presumably because there's
only one episode of the eight out so far and
I watched it last night. Kristin Miliotti plays the crazy
adult daughter the crime family who's going to be either
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his adversary or his love interest or both. You may
remember her from a really good Black Mirror episode that
spoofs Star Trek, but she's been a prolific actress for
a while, and it's cool to see her headlining something
you're not in your head like you're familiar with this actress.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I am.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'm a Black Mirror fan, and Kristin MILAATEI I thought
it was mil Miliadi. I'm sorry I didn't enlarge the
spelling here. Christin Miliatti. She's fantastic in that episode. It's
that goodness. I can't remember the name of it, but yeah,
she plays a tortured character and she does it very well.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, she plays somebody who's one of the blue Shirts
that you think is a side character and a Star
Trek spoof and winds up becoming the central character. And
if you haven't seen it, I don't want to spoil
it anymore for you.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Then she's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
As you might have heard by now, Colin Ferrell plays
the Penguin with a pretty ridiculous, exaggerated New Yoick accent.
Although it's always funny to me to hear how people
from other countries think we sound. Generally, they think we
sound like morons. I was visiting a friend in York,
England a number of years ago, and I said, I
made the mistake of saying you all in a conversation,
(24:53):
and my god, my friend and his mom couldn't stop
shrieking with laughter.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
They couldn't stop.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Buddy of mine named Glass would absolutely kill with his
bonehead Yankee accent accent.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Like, hey, what are you bastards doing?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Come on, guys, So that's what they think we sound like,
so irishman Colin Ferrell doing what he thinks is in
New York. Sorry, I mean Gotham accent. I would say, okay,
it's a comic book show, but we're going to get
back to that Farrell's also buried in a fat suit
and prosthetics, to the point that he kind of looks
like Tony Soprano. But if Tony had been hauled out
(25:29):
of the water after a week in the old cement
shoes and the fish had been nibbling at him, not
It's a visual, not what you'd call a looker. Oz
takes on a young apprentice to help him in his scheme,
in which he seems way over his head.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Now, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Maybe it's supposed to be a Robin analog the young Kid,
but nobody is in any fun costumes. I feel like
I'm supposed to like the penguin, but instead I just
found myself wondering when this stuff stopped being fun. And
I can tell you the answer to that. If anyone
wants to get in the time machine and travel back
to nineteen eighty six, you can prevent all of this
(26:03):
by stopping the publication of Frank Miller's Batman The Dark
Knight Returns and Alan Moore's Watchman. They both came out
in the same year. They're both fantastic books too, but
they were so influential that they changed the whole superhero
comic book, movie, TV industry into a weird assembly line
of middle aged dudes taking these tall tale heroes they
(26:26):
loved when they were ten years old twelve years old
and trying to make them realistic and gritty violent. Some
of it's good, but it's an inherently silly project. I mean,
the Penguin was created in Batman comics more than eighty
years ago, and he came out of the sensibilities of
that time. I mean, what's coming next from the world
of Matt Reeves the Penguin? Maybe a gritty, violent mad
(26:50):
Hatter series. Was he an asylum seeker and some idiot
thought he came from an actual asylum.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
How about an ultra.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Dark Mister Freeze show, Like Mister Freeze could be a
dermatologist who freezes off words and he's just pushed too far,
too far. Those would probably be more watchable than that
Miserable Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Did you like that?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
You know, as you are not interested in Transformers, I've
not gotten into the latest iteration of the Batman, the Joker,
all of this that type of stuff the last few years.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I this is the minority opinion. It was a really
successful movie. It did shockingly well for a super villain
story by a way of Martin Scorsese, and we're gonna
sequel to that shortly, whether we like it or not.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I'm saying the Penguin just didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Wake for me, even though I understand other people are
praising it before. It's pulpy aesthetic and for the performances.
I just kept thinking to myself, what are we doing here?
What's the poipois not porpoise purpose? You're not selling me
on this. You're trying to sell me something that I'm
not sure I need. But I'm open if it's a knockout.
(27:58):
And it's not a knockout. This Penguin feels like it
was made for people who would never pick up a
comic book. It wants their respect. It's embarrassed of coming
from a comic book.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
It's trying.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Here's let me put it in a different way. The
Penguin is trying to pass. They even changed Oswald Cobblepot
to Oz Cobb, like an immigrant from the old days,
trying to americanize his name. Jesus, stop trying so hard
to make inherently silly children's characters edgy for adults all
the time. Remember Green Lantern. You know, I don't know
how well known that character is, but he's also from
(28:31):
DC like Batman in the Justice League. Green Lantern had
a sidekick in the old days called pie Face, who
was a young Inuit. Now they stop using pie Face
and gave him a name because pie Face is offensive.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
It's offensive as hell.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
But now I can see kind of an HBO series
called Pie which would be like a gritty, violent and
ultimately uplifting story of a young Inuit struggles against racism
in the I don't know Alaskan gang world until he
meets this heroic white test pilot, But Green Lantern never
(29:06):
appears in the show. Actually, don't don't steal that idea. Listen,
I haven't a liked the Burgess Meredith Batman from the
old TV show. The point is that it's a comic
book villain called the Penguin who's the enemy of a
comic book hero who dresses in a batsuit. How realistic,
sir or ma'am? Do you need this to be? Do
(29:28):
you need ingmar Bergman to do a drama about how
Penguin's mate for life?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
No, get out of here.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
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