August 7, 2024 • 28 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look inside ‘Cotino’; Disney's first-ever Storyliving community in Rancho Mirage, California…PLUS – Thoughts on Elon Musk suing advertisers & moving X out of San Francisco AND the DOJ’s suit against TikTok, over claims that the app has been illegally collecting children's data - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Disney is planning its first ever community. I guess you
could call it Pleasantville of sources. No, it's not going
to be stylized after Disneyland. These are legitimate houses in
their own right. There's even like a fifty five plus community.
And I said, wait a minute, that might be something
for me. And then I saw the process. I said, whoa,
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it's not for me because the houses start and the
high millions and the houses go up to the high
two millions. The Walt Disney Company is building Cotino cot
n O. It's first ever story Living by Disney and
it's a planned community in Rancho Mirage that's out near
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Palm Springs Holmes. As I said, start more than a million.
But if you go to the actual website, and I
was checking it out because I wanted to see what
the hoes look like, they're gorgeous. You can go to
story living by Disney dot com forward slash Cotino cot
I n O and you can see new home sales,
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you can get pictures of the homes, you can join
their lists, have a viewing walk out there and it.
They'll take you around some of the model homes, but
the prices are a little bit cost prohibitive unless you
are independently wealthy. The renderings of the home designs you
can see reveal the flat, multi level elevations of mid
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century design. They use a neutral palette. It's not bright colors,
it's muted colors, and it kind of fits in with
the whole desert motif. The first round of three hundred
homes went on sale earlier this year and they are
under construction, but the full community is slated to have
some nineteen hundred homes. And I think about this from
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a business strategy plan. If you think about Disney getting
into real estate, not necessarily a function of the amusement
park aspect, but just land and developing it. We know
that real estate is usually returns a great investment. If
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you're selling these million dollar homes, and I guess they're
just buying up all this land out in the desert
and then developing it. It makes sense. It really does
make sense. And this is going to be the next
i'll say chapter in the world Domination of Disney.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, I mean, look, I hear you talking about the
million dollar two million. Well, that's that's on the high end.
But the entry level round of about a million, that's
actually not that far off from where homes are just
period in California.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now, I remind you that. That's why I went to
the website. The story says in the millions. It says
it starts in the high one million. I got you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Even starting in the high one millions, isn't that far
off when you look at the average, just the average
in just your basic run of the mill neighborhood home
is over nine hundred thousand. That's just living you know,
right down the street from the station here at Bourbank.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I get that. But part of the reason why we
pay more here is because we are closer to more
here as opposed to living in Rancho Mirage. It'd be
different if Ranche Mirage in that area was more developed.
It's it's still a lot of desert out there. It's
not like you're moving to Palm Springs, which is very developed.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But look at how fast they are developing these desert communities. Yes,
and even hell in Lancaster, I mean Lancaster was nothing
but desert. In the next thing, Mondale, Laster, Victorville, those
are starting now looking at multimillion dollar houses some areas
in Palmdale.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm looking myself. I have no problem. It's crazy. It
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And now there's like thirteen eleven balls or whatever oute there.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Every time you turn around, there's a new development. But
it took about ten fifteen years for it to get
there because I was looking, to tell all my business,
I was looking for a house out in Palmdale in
like two thousand and one, two thousand and two, and
you can get a house like two fifty three hundred thousand,
but it was there was nothing out there. You were
just going to be out there by yourself for the
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most part. Now it's much more developed. Yes, they have
houses anywhere from five hundred thousand to a million dollars.
And on the way to Palmdale you see Santa Clarita
and that's really exploded. Yes. So if you got it early,
and this is talking about getting in early and early, yeah,
this would be reasonable if you compare to what it's
going to be five ten years. Yeah, because when it
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gets fully developed, these million dollar plus homes will be
three and four million dollars. Easy, easy, ye. But I'm
saying that goes back to Aha, Disney, I see what
you're doing. I see what you're doing. And if you
do this on a large level, let's just put it
in movie terms. Let's say you put in two hundred
million to make this movie, and let's say you put
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two hundred million in for this development, but it brings
you back a billion dollars. Yeah, I get it. I
get the math. I mean, look, the houses may be
priced at one one point nine million, when you look
at them, they didn't cost that much to make. They
didn't and you know they're going to sell them for
a lot more than what they cost to build them.
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So you know, I look at the bigger picture of
Disney just buying up land and not that they would
move away from movies. I'm just saying that's just the
evolution of the Disney brand, and it just makes sense
to me. So twala dark Donald Trump, Oh do we
(05:57):
ever tell this story?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I don't know what you're talking about. But I see
on the site, the Kotino site. Huh they have homes
for adults fifty five plus, So you're in business moment.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, I was say, that's part of the reason why
I was checking it out. And then they saw the
prices like two million dollars.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I said for the fifty five Yes, my man, Yes,
you can be around your fellow seniors. You can play
shuffleboard the whole nine yards. Yeah, but I just wouldn't
be able to afford into the houses. I'm not rolling
like that. Okay, Well they look happy in the photos.
They really they looked blissfully at I were tired. It's
like those commercials with the people who had the little
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bullet mixers.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They all look so happy. I want to tear off
a piece of that. Look. If I could move into
a fifty five plus community and keep out riff raft
like you and cosolutely yes, Actually, well, I don't know
if they can keep out coyotes because when you're in
that area, you're moving into their neighborhood. Yeah, you know
you have to buy you have to create some very
high fences because that they can jump over, like six
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seven feet fences. Oh yeah, so that I don't know
if I would be you know, I still would probably
have to deal with the coyotes. No, it seems like
there would be nice houses. It just be somewhere I
would have to go when I'm done working, or if
Robin would let me do the show remotely. I'm not
making that drive every day from my basically Palm Springs.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh, these people all look so happy. They look like
they've just passed around a vate pen. And they're not
wearing any pants under the table. They look like they
passed around more than a vate pen too. Oh yeah,
I can't believe you don't want to be a part
of this lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I do. I just can't afford it.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, if you can't afford it, I can't afford it. No,
they're not marketing to me. I'm just talking about it
from a business standpoint. No, I'm but I'm the dark
Trump story.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay, Twala, once upon a time had four hundred and
fifty five properties.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, it wasn't that close, but it was a lot.
Unfortunately it all led to bankruptcy. Yep, yep, yep. But
I do want to reach out to my guy and say, hey,
like about that time again. You know Contino, you know,
is there any way we can finagle something? I'm sure
here look at me and save t not again.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Look going back to then when they had those loans
where you could do just about anything if you had
a nickel and dime and a dream. You could get
a loan. It might have been an arm and adjustable
rate mortgage with the hell of a balloon payment, but
you could get a mortgage on just about any house.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Key key word that's missing their subprime subprime.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, man, a lot has changed since two thousand and eight.
Let me tell you now that like requiring twenty percent
down and everything, Like what the hell is that? That's
so unfair? So unfair? What happened to like one percent down?
And like no proof of the goo boy, the good
old days. This letter with Mokelly caf I AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and we have
(08:53):
an Elon Musk update when we come back in x
and advertisers in San Francisco and Twitter and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Forty, we have an Elon Musk update. Do you remember
last year when Elon Musk was being interviewed by a
person from the Washington Post as part of some form
I can't remember the name of it, but he was
asked about advertisers leaving the platform, and Elon Musk took
that opportunity to tell everyone to go f themselves online.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
There was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We talked to Bob id Stop. YopE hear that? Did
you hear that? He says, I hope they stop. It's
really important listen to that again.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Online there was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob id Stop. You don't advertise, you
don't don't advertise? What do you mean.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
If somebody to try to blackmail me with advertising, knowing
with money yourself. I remember him saying that, but go yourself. Okay,
that's really important because today Elon Musk is suing those
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very same advertisers, saying that they've allegedly colluded to boycott
his social media platform X. He said, don't advertise, he said,
go f yourself, and now he's suing alleging collusion. Now,
no one can stop you from suing. I can sue
(10:37):
Mark for anything. Now it may not be heard on
the merits. It could be tossed out. The judge can
say I don't have standing, YadA yah dah, blah blah blah.
There's nothing stopping me from suing you. Elbar twala for
any reason. It could be frivolous, but the court would
decide that we all just expect it. Sooner or later.
It's coming. It's coming. But Elon Musk is trying to
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sue the very advertisers who he said to go f themselves.
He said, don't advertise. I played the audio for him
for you. But in the lawsuit says quote defendants conspired
along with dozens of non defendant code conspirators to collectively
withhold billions of dollars in advertising revenue from Twitter now
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x online.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
There was all of the criticism, there was advertisers leaving.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We talked to Bob Iden. They stop. I hope they stop.
But it goes on concern that Twitter might deviate from
certain brand safety standards from advertising on social media platforms
set through GARM, which is a Global Alliance of Responsible Media.
The conspirators collectively acted to enforce Twitter's adherence to those
standards through the boycott. Close quote. Let me just make
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it real plain. Let's say that audio didn't exist, and
let's say advertisers, either individually or collectively felt that Twitter
as it was called then was incongruous with their with
their brand it was, it was not it was It
was not a good look for United Airlines or the
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Washington Post. But the I would say, the anti semitism,
the racism, the sexism, all the isms which were on
prominent display were not good as far as brand association.
What stops I should say, what forces a business to
advertise with someone? Let me let me put it another way.
(12:36):
Elon Musk has said that he's moving this same company
x slash Twitter out of San Francisco. What if businesses,
let's say, the state of California said, wait a minute,
why are you leaving California? Why are you taking that
opportunity away from California? And if California were to sue
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x X would have to say, no, I'm not obligated
to keep my business here in California. I'm not obligated
to do anything which is going to lead to me
paying taxes to the State of California. That's not my job,
that's not my goal. It's the exact same thing. It's
not a business's responsibility to cater to Elon Musk. We
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have no obligation to spend money to help out Elon Musk.
But the audio does exist. But he did tell these
same advertisers to go f themselves. That's not collusion, that's
just agreement. They said, okay, he said, do not advertise,
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and by golly, they obliged him.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Online there was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob byden they stop.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I hope they stopped. Hope, don't advertise, don't advertise, don't
want them to avertise. No, what do you mean.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
If somebodys going to try to blackmail me with advertising,
blackmailing with money?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Go for yourself, but go yourself?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Is that clear?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I hope it is.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Hey, Bob here in the audience, Well, then.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's how I feel that advertise.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
How do you think that about the economics of X
if part of the underlying model at least today, and
maybe it needs to shift, maybe the answers it needs
to shift away from advertising. If you believe that this
is the one part of your business where you will
beholden to those who.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Have this view, what do you do? Why said it
three or four times, go after yourself, don't advertise, and
they stopped advertising. They listened to him. Maybe they made
the decision having nothing to do with Elon Musk and
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what he said. But put it this way. If you
walked into any business that you were advertising and they
told you to go f yourself. Let's say you walked
into McDonald's and the okay, well that's unfair. Let's say
you walked into any Hamburger Johnny, and the person behind
the counter said, go f yourself. Are you obligated to
spend money there? They'd never do that at Burger King.
(15:20):
It's all have it your way there, that's right. If
you walked into some sandwich shops, some grocery store and
the president of the company said, go f yourself, would
you spend another cent there?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's almost as if some people hate free market capitalism
when it doesn't exactly go their way.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Look, and you're trying to require people businesses to spend
money on you. That almost sounds like what's the word
I'm looking for? So so look at the time, Okay,
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You're listening to Later with Mokel on demand from KFI
AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And from time to time I refer to the time
I was sitting on a federal grand jury. It was criminal,
not civil, but I learned a lot from it. It was
a great experience and if you are ever given the
opportunity to sit on a federal grand jury, it's so
unlike anything that you've probably ever experienced with the you know,
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the ordinary or county jury duty. It's a different process.
I was on for four months. We met every Tuesday,
had all sorts of cases, from immigration to child pornography unfortunately,
to murder, drug trafficking. But the main takeaway was this,
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when the federal government comes after you, be it civil
or criminal, they already have the goods if they filed
the lawsuit, if they filed the federal indictment, and to
get the true bill, they already have you. The data
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collection methods are so extreme, and you realize this when
you're sitting in the federal grand jury, the type of
access to just because in a grand jury they're only
showing you some of the information. They just want to
make sure they can secure an indictment. In a criminal sense,
they're not showing you everything they're going to actually divulge
at trial. And I have to assume on the civil side,
(17:31):
it's very similar when the federal government comes after you
They pretty much already have you. They don't bring cases
that they don't think they're gonna win. Absolutely absolutely, And
so when it hits the news, so and so has beendicted,
indicted like a Bob Benndez, they already had him. It
was pretty much a formality. You should not have been
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surprised when he was convicted on all counts. And I
say that because when the Department of Justice is suing
TikTok accusing the company of illegally collecting children's data, they
already have the data, they already have the proof. Just
know that. And the complaint was filed together with the
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FTC Federal Trade Commission in a California federal court, probably
the same court I was, in the Central District of California.
And the lawsuit focuses on allegations at TikTok and byte Dance,
its parent company, violated federal law that requires kid oriented
apps and websites to get parental consent before that's the
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KeyPoint before collecting personal information of children under thirteen. The
lawsuit also says that the companies failed to honor requests
from parents who wanted their children's accounts deleted and chose
not to delete accounts even when the firms knew they
belonged to kids under thirteen. I say all that to say,
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the federal government already has the evidence. And again it's
not criminal, but in a civil sense, it's preponderance of evidence.
It's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. We're talking like
fifty one to forty nine preponderance of evidence. They're gonna win,
and they're gonna win big. Also in the complaint, the
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Justice Department and the FTC alleged that TikTok has knowingly
allowed children to create accounts and retain their personal information
without notification of parents, and it extends to accounts created
in the quote unquote Kids Mode that's a version of
TikTok for children under thirteen. The feature supposedly allowed users
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to view videos but barred them and I say supposedly
from uploading content. They also accused TikTok of sharing the
data with other companies wait for it, such as Metas,
Facebook and an analytics company called apps Flyer to persuade
Kid's Mode users to be on the platform more and
(20:02):
practice TikTok. I don't know, well, put it this way,
I do know that Facebook has not been named in
this lawsuit, but I don't know if they might be
named in a future lawsuit for how they got this
information which was illegal in nature. But there's more. The
complaint says TikTok also allowed children to create accounts without
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having to provide their age or obtain parental consent by
using credentials from third party services. Like if you ever,
like I'm trying to think, let's say you wanted to
go to MTV dot com and you saw this cool
article whatever or a video, and you want to share
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that to TikTok and post it on TikTok. That's a
perfect example of a third party and you can get
permission for that third party app to post that content
on your behalf. And the complaint is saying TikTok allowed
this to go on with impunity, even though they did
not get the age of the child who was allowing
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the access of the third party service. When it hits
the news like this and the complaint is filed, you
can best be sure they already have all the evidence
they need. And it's a fad of complete how much
money that TikTok is probably going to have to pay
and lighten this lawsuit. I don't know, but it should
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be staggering when all this is said and done. It's
Later with Moe Kelly. The hour's almost up, so you
know what that means. There must be some Australian Pink
Floyd tickets just around the corner, and you would be right.
That's next segment.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (21:50):
Maybe you are a Pink Floyd sand Maybe you've been
jonesing for some Pink Floyd since the band has disbanded,
have been together for I don't know, some fifteen years
or so, give would take a few years. Maybe you're
missing some vintage Pink Floyd in your life and you
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don't know where to turn other than the albums you
have at home. Maybe you want to hear something like
The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish you were here,
Animals of Course the Wall. Maybe you want to relive
some of the greatness of Pink Floyd and you don't
know what to do or how to go about it. Well,
I have a solution for you, at least for one night.
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Australian Pink Floyd. They've sold over five million tickets performing
as one of the most venerable tribute bands in the world,
Pink Floyd, who has sold over two hundred and fifty
million records. The Times new Paper in newspaper in London
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described Australian Pink Floyd as the gold standard and coming
up on August fourteenth at the Orpheum Theater right here
in Los Angeles, they will be performing. Australian Pink Floyd
will be performing. And I told you last night we
will be giving away a pair of tickets, excuse me,
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two pairs of tickets each night of the week. Last
night we gave away two pairs of tickets. Tonight, We're
going to be giving away two pairs of tickets Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. Say it with me, two pairs of tickets.
All I need you to do right now is be
a loyal and professed Pink Floyd fan. How you go
(23:38):
crazy over the opportunity to see Australian Pink Floyd. And
if you just check out some of their music online,
close your eyes. They sound just about exactly like Pink Floyd.
So you're not going to get much closer than this.
I think, Elmer, we need to open up the phone
lines right now, It's about that time. We need to
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give away two pairs of Pink Floyd tickets. Let's give
it to caller number nine and eleven. Call her number nine.
Let's x out because these people are calling in early.
They're no cheaters allowed tonight. Call her number nine, call
her number eleven. The tickets are yours. And I have
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to ask you, Mark Rohner, as a music critic, I
don't need to introduce Pink Floyd to you, but I
do wonder did you ever have an opportunity to maybe
interview Roger Waters or someone.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
No, and I've never seen them live in a concert either,
But I love Pink Floyd and you were talking about
this last night, and you actually caused me to reach
out to the friend in high school who introduced me
to Pink Floyd on a walkman on our way home
at night on the wrestling fuss all because you started
talking about this one of my favorite memories of all time.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It's weird because any music fan that I know, especially
if you're a fan of rock or psychedelic rock, you
know Pink Floyd and you probably remember the first time
you heard Pink Floyd.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It blew my mind. It was transcendent. I'm not exaggerating. No, no,
this is not for effect or hyperbole. This is all real.
This is very true, it's very genuine.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Some of my earliest personal music memories are connected to
Pink Floyd.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, and you got to remember how ancient we are.
People didn't have earbuds every place back then, and I
think walkmen were fairly new. Of course, I was poor,
white trash and I didn't have anything like that. So
the friend who let me put his on it really
was on an eye opening experience.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, I am actually very jealous. I look at the
phone lines. They've just exploded with people calling for these
tickets to see Australian Pink Floyd at the Orpheum on
August fourteenth. We're giving away two pairs of tickets tonight
to call her number nine and call her number eleven.
I'm jealous because, like you, had never had the opportunity
to see Pink Floyd, and this probably would be the
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closest approximation to that. And from what I hear, they
sound virtually identical to them. And you know, not to
dismiss what Pink Floyd did, but that's some some feat
to be able to even be.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Thought of that way. This sounds really cool. I would
love to see this show. And you have a long
tradition of you know, rock band, beatles, imitation bands, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
This is great. Calling number nine, call he number eleven.
You will be the winners. And if you should not
win tonight, do not fret. We have tickets that we're
giving away Tomorrow night, Thursday night and Friday night. In fact,
we're giving away two pairs of tickets each and every
night this week. Where else can anyone say that they're
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giving away Australian Pink Floyd tickets like that every single
night this week Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and that's after Monday
and Tuesday. I remember trying to tell them we're going
to start giving away some very cool prizes and this
is another one just like that. It's one of those
prizes like I need to call our friends over at
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the Orphum and say, hey, can you set aside just
a pair of tickets for me and my wife? Because
it's fun to give away stuff, but sometimes I want
to be a part of stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
When you said me and my wife, when you were
on me and the part, I thought you were gonna
say Mark. Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot, thanks for nothing. Well,
you were talking smack earlier in the show, so you know, no,
that couldn't have been me. I remember you were trying
to get rim shots. Not definitely, touala. I don't recall
any of that.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Caller number nine calling number eleven. If you are one
of those two callers, you'll get a pair of tickets
to see Australian Pink Floyd at the Orpheum on August fourteenth.
Will be giving away another two pair of tickets tomorrow
night and Thursday night and Friday night. Can if I
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Common Sense left California a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We're bringing it back.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Disney is planning its first ever community. I guess you
could call it Pleasantville of sources. No, it's not going
to be stylized after Disneyland. These are legitimate houses in
their own right. There's even like a fifty five plus community.
And I said, wait a minute, that might be something
for me. And then I saw the process. I said, whoa,
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it's not for me because the houses start and the
high millions and the houses go up to the high
two millions. The Walt Disney Company is building Cotino cot
n O. It's first ever story Living by Disney and
it's a planned community in Rancho Mirage that's out near
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Palm Springs Holmes. As I said, start more than a million.
But if you go to the actual website, and I
was checking it out because I wanted to see what
the hoes look like, they're gorgeous. You can go to
story living by Disney dot com forward slash Cotino cot
I n O and you can see new home sales,
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you can get pictures of the homes, you can join
their lists, have a viewing walk out there and it.
They'll take you around some of the model homes, but
the prices are a little bit cost prohibitive unless you
are independently wealthy. The renderings of the home designs you
can see reveal the flat, multi level elevations of mid
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century design. They use a neutral palette. It's not bright colors,
it's muted colors, and it kind of fits in with
the whole desert motif. The first round of three hundred
homes went on sale earlier this year and they are
under construction, but the full community is slated to have
some nineteen hundred homes. And I think about this from
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a business strategy plan. If you think about Disney getting
into real estate, not necessarily a function of the amusement
park aspect, but just land and developing it. We know
that real estate is usually returns a great investment. If
(02:21):
you're selling these million dollar homes, and I guess they're
just buying up all this land out in the desert
and then developing it. It makes sense. It really does
make sense. And this is going to be the next
i'll say chapter in the world Domination of Disney.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, I mean, look, I hear you talking about the
million dollar two million. Well, that's that's on the high end.
But the entry level round of about a million, that's
actually not that far off from where homes are just
period in California.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now, I remind you that. That's why I went to
the website. The story says in the millions. It says
it starts in the high one million. I got you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Even starting in the high one millions, isn't that far
off when you look at the average, just the average
in just your basic run of the mill neighborhood home
is over nine hundred thousand. That's just living you know,
right down the street from the station here at Bourbank.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I get that. But part of the reason why we
pay more here is because we are closer to more
here as opposed to living in Rancho Mirage. It'd be
different if Ranche Mirage in that area was more developed.
It's it's still a lot of desert out there. It's
not like you're moving to Palm Springs, which is very developed.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But look at how fast they are developing these desert communities. Yes,
and even hell in Lancaster, I mean Lancaster was nothing
but desert. In the next thing, Mondale, Laster, Victorville, those
are starting now looking at multimillion dollar houses some areas
in Palmdale.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm looking myself. I have no problem. It's crazy. It
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And now there's like thirteen eleven balls or whatever oute there.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Every time you turn around, there's a new development. But
it took about ten fifteen years for it to get
there because I was looking, to tell all my business,
I was looking for a house out in Palmdale in
like two thousand and one, two thousand and two, and
you can get a house like two fifty three hundred thousand,
but it was there was nothing out there. You were
just going to be out there by yourself for the
(04:30):
most part. Now it's much more developed. Yes, they have
houses anywhere from five hundred thousand to a million dollars.
And on the way to Palmdale you see Santa Clarita
and that's really exploded. Yes. So if you got it early,
and this is talking about getting in early and early, yeah,
this would be reasonable if you compare to what it's
going to be five ten years. Yeah, because when it
(04:53):
gets fully developed, these million dollar plus homes will be
three and four million dollars. Easy, easy, ye. But I'm
saying that goes back to Aha, Disney, I see what
you're doing. I see what you're doing. And if you
do this on a large level, let's just put it
in movie terms. Let's say you put in two hundred
million to make this movie, and let's say you put
(05:15):
two hundred million in for this development, but it brings
you back a billion dollars. Yeah, I get it. I
get the math. I mean, look, the houses may be
priced at one one point nine million, when you look
at them, they didn't cost that much to make. They
didn't and you know they're going to sell them for
a lot more than what they cost to build them.
(05:36):
So you know, I look at the bigger picture of
Disney just buying up land and not that they would
move away from movies. I'm just saying that's just the
evolution of the Disney brand, and it just makes sense
to me. So twala dark Donald Trump, Oh do we
(05:57):
ever tell this story?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I don't know what you're talking about. But I see
on the site, the Kotino site. Huh they have homes
for adults fifty five plus, So you're in business moment.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, I was say, that's part of the reason why
I was checking it out. And then they saw the
prices like two million dollars.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I said for the fifty five Yes, my man, Yes,
you can be around your fellow seniors. You can play
shuffleboard the whole nine yards. Yeah, but I just wouldn't
be able to afford into the houses. I'm not rolling
like that. Okay, Well they look happy in the photos.
They really they looked blissfully at I were tired. It's
like those commercials with the people who had the little
(06:31):
bullet mixers.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They all look so happy. I want to tear off
a piece of that. Look. If I could move into
a fifty five plus community and keep out riff raft
like you and cosolutely yes, Actually, well, I don't know
if they can keep out coyotes because when you're in
that area, you're moving into their neighborhood. Yeah, you know
you have to buy you have to create some very
high fences because that they can jump over, like six
(06:53):
seven feet fences. Oh yeah, so that I don't know
if I would be you know, I still would probably
have to deal with the coyotes. No, it seems like
there would be nice houses. It just be somewhere I
would have to go when I'm done working, or if
Robin would let me do the show remotely. I'm not
making that drive every day from my basically Palm Springs.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh, these people all look so happy. They look like
they've just passed around a vate pen. And they're not
wearing any pants under the table. They look like they
passed around more than a vate pen too. Oh yeah,
I can't believe you don't want to be a part
of this lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I do. I just can't afford it.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, if you can't afford it, I can't afford it. No,
they're not marketing to me. I'm just talking about it
from a business standpoint. No, I'm but I'm the dark
Trump story.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay, Twala, once upon a time had four hundred and
fifty five properties.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, it wasn't that close, but it was a lot.
Unfortunately it all led to bankruptcy. Yep, yep, yep. But
I do want to reach out to my guy and say, hey,
like about that time again. You know Contino, you know,
is there any way we can finagle something? I'm sure
here look at me and save t not again.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Look going back to then when they had those loans
where you could do just about anything if you had
a nickel and dime and a dream. You could get
a loan. It might have been an arm and adjustable
rate mortgage with the hell of a balloon payment, but
you could get a mortgage on just about any house.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Key key word that's missing their subprime subprime.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, man, a lot has changed since two thousand and eight.
Let me tell you now that like requiring twenty percent
down and everything, Like what the hell is that? That's
so unfair? So unfair? What happened to like one percent down?
And like no proof of the goo boy, the good
old days. This letter with Mokelly caf I AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and we have
(08:53):
an Elon Musk update when we come back in x
and advertisers in San Francisco and Twitter and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Forty, we have an Elon Musk update. Do you remember
last year when Elon Musk was being interviewed by a
person from the Washington Post as part of some form
I can't remember the name of it, but he was
asked about advertisers leaving the platform, and Elon Musk took
that opportunity to tell everyone to go f themselves online.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
There was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We talked to Bob id Stop. YopE hear that? Did
you hear that? He says, I hope they stop. It's
really important listen to that again.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Online there was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob id Stop. You don't advertise, you
don't don't advertise? What do you mean.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
If somebody to try to blackmail me with advertising, knowing
with money yourself. I remember him saying that, but go yourself. Okay,
that's really important because today Elon Musk is suing those
(10:17):
very same advertisers, saying that they've allegedly colluded to boycott
his social media platform X. He said, don't advertise, he said,
go f yourself, and now he's suing alleging collusion. Now,
no one can stop you from suing. I can sue
(10:37):
Mark for anything. Now it may not be heard on
the merits. It could be tossed out. The judge can
say I don't have standing, YadA yah dah, blah blah blah.
There's nothing stopping me from suing you. Elbar twala for
any reason. It could be frivolous, but the court would
decide that we all just expect it. Sooner or later.
It's coming. It's coming. But Elon Musk is trying to
(11:01):
sue the very advertisers who he said to go f themselves.
He said, don't advertise. I played the audio for him
for you. But in the lawsuit says quote defendants conspired
along with dozens of non defendant code conspirators to collectively
withhold billions of dollars in advertising revenue from Twitter now
(11:24):
x online.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
There was all of the criticism, there was advertisers leaving.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We talked to Bob Iden. They stop. I hope they stop.
But it goes on concern that Twitter might deviate from
certain brand safety standards from advertising on social media platforms
set through GARM, which is a Global Alliance of Responsible Media.
The conspirators collectively acted to enforce Twitter's adherence to those
standards through the boycott. Close quote. Let me just make
(11:51):
it real plain. Let's say that audio didn't exist, and
let's say advertisers, either individually or collectively felt that Twitter
as it was called then was incongruous with their with
their brand it was, it was not it was It
was not a good look for United Airlines or the
(12:12):
Washington Post. But the I would say, the anti semitism,
the racism, the sexism, all the isms which were on
prominent display were not good as far as brand association.
What stops I should say, what forces a business to
advertise with someone? Let me let me put it another way.
(12:36):
Elon Musk has said that he's moving this same company
x slash Twitter out of San Francisco. What if businesses,
let's say, the state of California said, wait a minute,
why are you leaving California? Why are you taking that
opportunity away from California? And if California were to sue
(12:57):
x X would have to say, no, I'm not obligated
to keep my business here in California. I'm not obligated
to do anything which is going to lead to me
paying taxes to the State of California. That's not my job,
that's not my goal. It's the exact same thing. It's
not a business's responsibility to cater to Elon Musk. We
(13:17):
have no obligation to spend money to help out Elon Musk.
But the audio does exist. But he did tell these
same advertisers to go f themselves. That's not collusion, that's
just agreement. They said, okay, he said, do not advertise,
(13:37):
and by golly, they obliged him.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Online there was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob byden they stop.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I hope they stopped. Hope, don't advertise, don't advertise, don't
want them to avertise. No, what do you mean.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
If somebodys going to try to blackmail me with advertising,
blackmailing with money?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Go for yourself, but go yourself?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Is that clear?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I hope it is.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Hey, Bob here in the audience, Well, then.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's how I feel that advertise.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
How do you think that about the economics of X
if part of the underlying model at least today, and
maybe it needs to shift, maybe the answers it needs
to shift away from advertising. If you believe that this
is the one part of your business where you will
beholden to those who.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Have this view, what do you do? Why said it
three or four times, go after yourself, don't advertise, and
they stopped advertising. They listened to him. Maybe they made
the decision having nothing to do with Elon Musk and
(14:59):
what he said. But put it this way. If you
walked into any business that you were advertising and they
told you to go f yourself. Let's say you walked
into McDonald's and the okay, well that's unfair. Let's say
you walked into any Hamburger Johnny, and the person behind
the counter said, go f yourself. Are you obligated to
spend money there? They'd never do that at Burger King.
(15:20):
It's all have it your way there, that's right. If
you walked into some sandwich shops, some grocery store and
the president of the company said, go f yourself, would
you spend another cent there?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's almost as if some people hate free market capitalism
when it doesn't exactly go their way.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Look, and you're trying to require people businesses to spend
money on you. That almost sounds like what's the word
I'm looking for? So so look at the time, Okay,
if I Am six forty were live everywhere in the
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Speaker 1 (15:57):
You're listening to Later with Mokel on demand from KFI
AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And from time to time I refer to the time
I was sitting on a federal grand jury. It was criminal,
not civil, but I learned a lot from it. It was
a great experience and if you are ever given the
opportunity to sit on a federal grand jury, it's so
unlike anything that you've probably ever experienced with the you know,
(16:25):
the ordinary or county jury duty. It's a different process.
I was on for four months. We met every Tuesday,
had all sorts of cases, from immigration to child pornography unfortunately,
to murder, drug trafficking. But the main takeaway was this,
(16:48):
when the federal government comes after you, be it civil
or criminal, they already have the goods if they filed
the lawsuit, if they filed the federal indictment, and to
get the true bill, they already have you. The data
(17:09):
collection methods are so extreme, and you realize this when
you're sitting in the federal grand jury, the type of
access to just because in a grand jury they're only
showing you some of the information. They just want to
make sure they can secure an indictment. In a criminal sense,
they're not showing you everything they're going to actually divulge
at trial. And I have to assume on the civil side,
(17:31):
it's very similar when the federal government comes after you
They pretty much already have you. They don't bring cases
that they don't think they're gonna win. Absolutely absolutely, And
so when it hits the news, so and so has beendicted,
indicted like a Bob Benndez, they already had him. It
was pretty much a formality. You should not have been
(17:53):
surprised when he was convicted on all counts. And I
say that because when the Department of Justice is suing
TikTok accusing the company of illegally collecting children's data, they
already have the data, they already have the proof. Just
know that. And the complaint was filed together with the
(18:13):
FTC Federal Trade Commission in a California federal court, probably
the same court I was, in the Central District of California.
And the lawsuit focuses on allegations at TikTok and byte Dance,
its parent company, violated federal law that requires kid oriented
apps and websites to get parental consent before that's the
(18:34):
KeyPoint before collecting personal information of children under thirteen. The
lawsuit also says that the companies failed to honor requests
from parents who wanted their children's accounts deleted and chose
not to delete accounts even when the firms knew they
belonged to kids under thirteen. I say all that to say,
(18:58):
the federal government already has the evidence. And again it's
not criminal, but in a civil sense, it's preponderance of evidence.
It's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. We're talking like
fifty one to forty nine preponderance of evidence. They're gonna win,
and they're gonna win big. Also in the complaint, the
(19:20):
Justice Department and the FTC alleged that TikTok has knowingly
allowed children to create accounts and retain their personal information
without notification of parents, and it extends to accounts created
in the quote unquote Kids Mode that's a version of
TikTok for children under thirteen. The feature supposedly allowed users
(19:41):
to view videos but barred them and I say supposedly
from uploading content. They also accused TikTok of sharing the
data with other companies wait for it, such as Metas,
Facebook and an analytics company called apps Flyer to persuade
Kid's Mode users to be on the platform more and
(20:02):
practice TikTok. I don't know, well, put it this way,
I do know that Facebook has not been named in
this lawsuit, but I don't know if they might be
named in a future lawsuit for how they got this
information which was illegal in nature. But there's more. The
complaint says TikTok also allowed children to create accounts without
(20:27):
having to provide their age or obtain parental consent by
using credentials from third party services. Like if you ever,
like I'm trying to think, let's say you wanted to
go to MTV dot com and you saw this cool
article whatever or a video, and you want to share
(20:49):
that to TikTok and post it on TikTok. That's a
perfect example of a third party and you can get
permission for that third party app to post that content
on your behalf. And the complaint is saying TikTok allowed
this to go on with impunity, even though they did
not get the age of the child who was allowing
(21:10):
the access of the third party service. When it hits
the news like this and the complaint is filed, you
can best be sure they already have all the evidence
they need. And it's a fad of complete how much
money that TikTok is probably going to have to pay
and lighten this lawsuit. I don't know, but it should
(21:31):
be staggering when all this is said and done. It's
Later with Moe Kelly. The hour's almost up, so you
know what that means. There must be some Australian Pink
Floyd tickets just around the corner, and you would be right.
That's next segment.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Maybe you are a Pink Floyd sand Maybe you've been
jonesing for some Pink Floyd since the band has disbanded,
have been together for I don't know, some fifteen years
or so, give would take a few years. Maybe you're
missing some vintage Pink Floyd in your life and you
(22:10):
don't know where to turn other than the albums you
have at home. Maybe you want to hear something like
The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish you were here,
Animals of Course the Wall. Maybe you want to relive
some of the greatness of Pink Floyd and you don't
know what to do or how to go about it. Well,
I have a solution for you, at least for one night.
(22:32):
Australian Pink Floyd. They've sold over five million tickets performing
as one of the most venerable tribute bands in the world,
Pink Floyd, who has sold over two hundred and fifty
million records. The Times new Paper in newspaper in London
(22:53):
described Australian Pink Floyd as the gold standard and coming
up on August fourteenth at the Orpheum Theater right here
in Los Angeles, they will be performing. Australian Pink Floyd
will be performing. And I told you last night we
will be giving away a pair of tickets, excuse me,
(23:13):
two pairs of tickets each night of the week. Last
night we gave away two pairs of tickets. Tonight, We're
going to be giving away two pairs of tickets Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. Say it with me, two pairs of tickets.
All I need you to do right now is be
a loyal and professed Pink Floyd fan. How you go
(23:38):
crazy over the opportunity to see Australian Pink Floyd. And
if you just check out some of their music online,
close your eyes. They sound just about exactly like Pink Floyd.
So you're not going to get much closer than this.
I think, Elmer, we need to open up the phone
lines right now, It's about that time. We need to
(23:59):
give away two pairs of Pink Floyd tickets. Let's give
it to caller number nine and eleven. Call her number nine.
Let's x out because these people are calling in early.
They're no cheaters allowed tonight. Call her number nine, call
her number eleven. The tickets are yours. And I have
(24:19):
to ask you, Mark Rohner, as a music critic, I
don't need to introduce Pink Floyd to you, but I
do wonder did you ever have an opportunity to maybe
interview Roger Waters or someone.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
No, and I've never seen them live in a concert either,
But I love Pink Floyd and you were talking about
this last night, and you actually caused me to reach
out to the friend in high school who introduced me
to Pink Floyd on a walkman on our way home
at night on the wrestling fuss all because you started
talking about this one of my favorite memories of all time.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It's weird because any music fan that I know, especially
if you're a fan of rock or psychedelic rock, you
know Pink Floyd and you probably remember the first time
you heard Pink Floyd.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It blew my mind. It was transcendent. I'm not exaggerating. No, no,
this is not for effect or hyperbole. This is all real.
This is very true, it's very genuine.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Some of my earliest personal music memories are connected to
Pink Floyd.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, and you got to remember how ancient we are.
People didn't have earbuds every place back then, and I
think walkmen were fairly new. Of course, I was poor,
white trash and I didn't have anything like that. So
the friend who let me put his on it really
was on an eye opening experience.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, I am actually very jealous. I look at the
phone lines. They've just exploded with people calling for these
tickets to see Australian Pink Floyd at the Orpheum on
August fourteenth. We're giving away two pairs of tickets tonight
to call her number nine and call her number eleven.
I'm jealous because, like you, had never had the opportunity
to see Pink Floyd, and this probably would be the
(25:57):
closest approximation to that. And from what I hear, they
sound virtually identical to them. And you know, not to
dismiss what Pink Floyd did, but that's some some feat
to be able to even be.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Thought of that way. This sounds really cool. I would
love to see this show. And you have a long
tradition of you know, rock band, beatles, imitation bands, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
This is great. Calling number nine, call he number eleven.
You will be the winners. And if you should not
win tonight, do not fret. We have tickets that we're
giving away Tomorrow night, Thursday night and Friday night. In fact,
we're giving away two pairs of tickets each and every
night this week. Where else can anyone say that they're
(26:43):
giving away Australian Pink Floyd tickets like that every single
night this week Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and that's after Monday
and Tuesday. I remember trying to tell them we're going
to start giving away some very cool prizes and this
is another one just like that. It's one of those
prizes like I need to call our friends over at
(27:05):
the Orphum and say, hey, can you set aside just
a pair of tickets for me and my wife? Because
it's fun to give away stuff, but sometimes I want
to be a part of stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
When you said me and my wife, when you were
on me and the part, I thought you were gonna
say Mark. Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot, thanks for nothing. Well,
you were talking smack earlier in the show, so you know, no,
that couldn't have been me. I remember you were trying
to get rim shots. Not definitely, touala. I don't recall
any of that.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Caller number nine calling number eleven. If you are one
of those two callers, you'll get a pair of tickets
to see Australian Pink Floyd at the Orpheum on August fourteenth.
Will be giving away another two pair of tickets tomorrow
night and Thursday night and Friday night. Can if I
am six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Common Sense left California a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We're bringing it back.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
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