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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
YouTube at mister mo'kelly the live video stream going right
now and also live on the iHeartRadio app. We talked
about Fire Festival one. We talked about both of the
documentaries regarding Fire Festival one. We covered that very closely.
We gave you our music industry inside about what goes
into those types of festivals, what is expected, what is required,
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and the amount of criminality exhibited by Billy McFarlane who
created the first fire Festival that did not happen. He
spent four years in prison after being convicted of wirefraud
and he defrauded his investors out of twenty seven point
four million dollars, and for some reason, the same dude,
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same dude, tried to do it again. He's called it
fire Festival again. It's like if it didn't leave a
really bad taste in your mouth the first time, he's
going to try to name it. It's almost like after
you catch a venereal disease, you probably don't want to
have any reminder of that if you name it fire
Festival and everyone is pissed off because you took advantage
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of everyone, and you still had to pay twenty six
million dollars in restitution. The last thing you should do
is called the next iteration, Fire Festival two. Why because
it's going to remind everyone of Fire Festival one and
what a cluster truck that was. So not surprisingly, it
was announced yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Say it with me. Fire Festival two has been post polled.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Not that anyone actually believe that it was going to happen,
but it's been post poned. It was supposed to be
from May thirtieth to June second, and we were wonderings like,
I don't know how they're going to pull this off,
because they're selling tickets for it for like thousands of dollars.
They weren't selling a lot of tickets. There weren't a
lot of specifics. There was no idea as far as
the accommodations. In fact, where it was supposed to be
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held in Mexico, the play was supposed to be. Hell
there sound like, we have no idea what this is
supposed to be, We have no itinerary, we have no
expectation of.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Guests showing up.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
There was no official host hotel who was saying like yeah, we're.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Expecting this to happen in two months. None of that
was in place. And also and also Billy McFarlane, the
guy who was in prison and the founder of.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
This, it wasn't clear he would even get.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Permission because he was on parole to travel outside of
the country to attend this.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Even if they were to pull it off, and they didn't.
What is mind boggling to me is there probably are
some people who purchased some of the tickets and paid
thousands of dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
This is like how many times can Lucy pull the
football from you?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
There were several people that after the first time we
were reported this I saw that were online on the
post about it, talking about give him a chance. This
is a once in a lifetime event. I can't wait.
I've already got my tickets. For all we know, those
could have been bots that he hired. But I know
you had said you were going to reach out to
him on social media. Did you send him a request
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to come on and oh, yeah, yeah, I did has
responded at all.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, no, no, no, we reached out because I remember
we played some audio from him and I'm looking for
it now and we tried to. We picked it apart
and so like, you can't be serious that you're actually
going to try to do this again. And he was
actually dismissive of people who didn't believe in him or
believe that he could actually pull this off.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
He was literally saying, look, I'll come on and talk
about it with anyone anytime. I don't care. And I
was like, okay, you're invited and never heard of that. Yeah,
I knew this joker wasn't serious. This whole event isn't serious.
This is the textbook definition of delusions of grandeur.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Fire Festival is back, if you can believe it. It's
been eight years since this ad premiered, featuring bikini clad
models and promising an unforgettable Caribbean experience, complete with luxurious
accommodations and a list entertainment. It was basically the exact
opposite of everything we had promised and unforgettable. It was
festivalgoers who shelled out thousands of dollars were greeted with
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tents and soggy sandwiches in no electricity.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
There was no showers, there's no bathrooms, there's no like
running water.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
The disaster gained worldwide attention.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Spawning multiple documentaries.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm absolutely disaster.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
And landing co founder Billy McFarland in prison for four
years for SAWED.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
I really should have canceled everything and just stopped lying.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
After being released from prison in twenty twenty two, McFarlane
told our Michael Strahan he is not a con man.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
I put every dollar I had or could find to
make this festival happen.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Now, he says, Fire Festival is happening this time. No,
it is Farland posting. I'm sure many people think I'm
crazy for doing this again, but I feel I'd be
crazy not to do it again. The festival is set
to take place on a Mexican island beginning in late May.
Tickets now on st although no performers have been announced.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
What makes Fire so cool is that we are selling
the experience of fire. I want to be one of
the first festivals that can sell out with no artists.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
A total of two thousand tickets are being sold, the
cheapest fourteen hundred dollars, all the way up to waking
one point one million.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Dollars, which gets you a stay on a private yacht.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
And McFarlane could use the money, he owes twenty six
million dollars in restitution from his first Fire festival.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Solby once shame on me, but at the courage to
prove the impossible possible and the courage to be a
part of history. Before we get into the lineup news,
I need to discuss what happened this week. On Thursday,
we hosted a press conference at the Martina Beach Club,
which is one of the official venues for Fire II.
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Our production, venue and hospitality partners and the government were
all there and all spoke on their plans for Fire too.
This week we will begin to release the lineup. Never
have DJs, rappers, reggae artists, pop stars, but also athletes, divers, models,
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pilots and creators. Will leave the experiences for our guests.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Wait.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Divers is all about these intimate experiences. We'll have dozens
of artists in a private party. Like setting, Fire is
all about the people you'll meet, the memories will make,
and the stories that you will be able to tell
your rest of your life. Fire two can only happen once.
Once it's sold out, that's it. There's no way, never happened.
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Just like the battle and fighting every day, there are
no more chances.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Okay, so that means there's no more chances. We're done
with fire Festival, right, We're done. It's never gonna happen, right,
I never. No Fire three is coming. My favorite comment
is someone said they want to just buy tickets so
they can end up on the next documentary.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
How can you call it? Fire to would fire one
never happened? Fire to the Deuce? Yeah? Bugaloo? Right yeah?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Fire to electric Okay, okay, Oh, how do you tell
yourself that this is going to be any different when
you're starting from a further place behind, when you have
more working against you.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I know we're against the clock, but because Mo, you're
smarter than all of us. But how I appreciate that?
How how legally is he allowed to do this? No,
there was a question of whether he could because he's
using the same brand which was fraudulent, and using the
same mode of promising this, that and the other which
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you did not deliver, which landed his ass in prison before.
I don't know, maybe he pulled the plug because he
was getting close to.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That line again and he couldn't deliver on.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Any of this because all the things that he talked
about in that video he did not deliver We never
heard about anyone who's performing. We never heard anything about
the hotel, never heard anything about the other the activations
or activities which would be going on, none of that.
But he was asking for ungodly sums of money and
we don't know how many people bought tickets or whatever
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happened to the money that he did collect so far.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Mark my words, he's going to run for president and
he might win. Huh.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. And when we come back, we're
going to tell you about the streaming leader board, not
just what maybe you know, the top ten movies on Netflix,
but the top of streaming all across all platforms, and
it might surprise you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
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Speaker 2 (08:42):
Live on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app, and let's talk
a little bit about streaming. We've talked about any number
of shows that I liked, like, for example, I loved Adolescents,
Stephan saw Adolescents, Love Adolescents. We love Paradise, and I
think Stefan saw that as well saw it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Mark saw that, and you wonder at least on a week.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
To week basis, what is really capturing people's imagination and eyeballs.
In other words, something maybe in the top ten of Netflix,
but does that mean anything? What does that mean against
the Apple shows? What does that mean against maybe the
Hulu shows or the Max shows and the Hollywood Reporter.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
As of late, we need to do this more often.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Now is providing the Nielsen streaming ratings covering TV viewing
on TV sets and also streaming platforms, and you get
a better sense. I don't know how specifically accurate it is,
but it monitors the minutes of viewing and they rank
the shows across the streaming platforms as far as the
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most amount of time people spend watching the shows, and
that's how they rank these so very quickly. The top
ten shows of streaming for the week of March seventeenth
through the twenty third, so it's about maybe twenty twenty
five days behind right now, so coming in at number
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ten as far as streaming across that time period, Severance
on Apple TV plus nineteen episodes, eight hundred and seventy
six million minutes of viewership coming in at number nine
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wicket and it's available I Guess on Peacock at this
point one quote unquote episode nine hundred and five million
minutes of viewership. By the way, I didn't know that
that because you said the it's basically first this is
the first part, right, Yes, that thing is long. It's long,
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and they only got halfway through. Jeez, yeah, yeah they
And that's why I didn't do it for me, because
tell the whole story, not a portion of the story.
Most of the people were watching the movie. They know
the whole story. Yeah, because I considered watching it, but
it was almost three hours and I'm like, that's part one,
and you did get to the edge exactly. And I
think that's part of the reason why I did not
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win the main awards, because it was a complete coming
in at number eight. Family Guy on Hulu four hundred
and forty one episodes, nine hundred and nineteen million minutes
of viewership across that week.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Number seven.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The White Lotus on Max at that point nineteen episodes out,
nine hundred and seventy three million minutes of viewership.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I suspect that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's going to grow, And so when everybody's talking about
has everyone yeah, has anyone here seen that I don't
watch it, and Daniel just put up the top ten
list and sort of gave away.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I'm gonna ask you about that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I saw that god purpose of a Top ten coming
in at number six, if you didn't already see it
as posted on the YouTube videostream.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So much suspense, I know, count the piece of purpose
of a drum bluie.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I have no idea what this is on Disney Plus
Kids Show, Well, I figured that one hundred and fifty
four episodes, nine hundred and seventy five million minutes of viewership.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well, Mills, we'll forget the drum roll.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Number five is Gray's Anatomy on Hulu slash Netflix. Still, yeah,
that's what it's really interesting, Wow, nine hundred and seventy
seven million viewership minutes. Number four is Reacher on Prime
Video one one yeah, one thousand and so this would
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be a billion in ninety seven viewership minutes.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Well deserved.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Number three is Moana two on Disney Plus one point
one billion million, one point one billion viewership millions. I
know it's kind of because they say minutes and millions
transposing in my head.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Number two is The Residents.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I haven't seen that, but I've heard good things about
it on Netflix one point three billion and number one. Again,
this is across March seventeenth through the twenty third, So
we were really talking about this show during that time.
I don't know if it's still number one in contemporary views,
but across March seventeenth through the twenty third, number one
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is Adolescents on Netflix. So good, No, no real surprisere
no real surprise. But since it only had four episodes,
it tells you that there was a lot of intense
viewership during that time. Mark, have you seen it yet? No,
I'm working my way through Black Mirror right now. I'll
get to it though. Look I'm the same way.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You start something, and for me to start something, it
has to be digestible.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You gotta finish another one.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
First, Adolescents with digestibles four episodes, I could like watching movies.
They're digestible. When you say Black Mirror, how what seven seasons? Yeah, sure,
you can just jump in. Okay, all right, and there
you go. We're gonna try to add this each and
every week. The overall top ten of streaming. We get
a sense of what everybody's watching, not just what we
are watching. It's later with mo Kelly ca if I
(14:30):
AM six forty life everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and
on YouTube, where we give away all the top tens
before we even finish them.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I'm just playing with you, Daniel, Thank you for everything
you do.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
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Speaker 2 (14:44):
Five, everywhere, in iHeartRadio app and on YouTube. Let me
say hello to my mother who's watching right now on
YouTube at mister mo Kelly's where you'll find the live
stream and also previous streams. I know we live in
a conspiratorial world. It's not just this country, I would
say the whole world. I know we live in a
world where we have to deal with AI creations, deep
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fake creations. I know that we have to deal with
those malicious creators of content designed to fool us, to
have us disbelieve in what we thought was known to
be true, from landing on the Moon or whatever. There
are a lot of purveyors of disinformation and misinformation out there.
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I don't think anyone would dispute that. But now we
almost believe nothing, We see nothing. We questioned everything to
the point of not being able to discern what is
real or is not real, And although it was heavily covered,
there was a lot of media coverage of the six
women who flew into space. And I put that in
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air quotes because if you get into the weeds, they
broke the Carmen line, which is like sixty two miles
above the surface of the Earth, and they experienced weightlessness,
but they didn't go into outer space. I think it's
like the Messo sphere or something like that. But that's minutie.
There's a concern now and a question of whether it
happened at all, and they're pointing to some video that
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everyone saw.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was like it was hitting anything, and it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Called into question whether the Shepherd capsule worked as we
were told it was designed to work. There was a
moment on the video where you see the hatch being
opened from the inside, where prior to that we were
told that you can only open the hatch from the
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outside with a tool, and we saw Jeff Bezos fumbling
around the outside of the hatch and people who are
disbelieving that this ever happened at all, and that these celebrities,
including Katy Perry, where ever in danger or pointing to
this moment saying see this is a and I'm prepare
for phrasing. But if it were actually a pressurized capsule,
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you can't open a hatch inward. Think of like being
on a plane. Those doors have to open outward. I
don't know. I really don't know how it's supposed to work,
or whether it was like a double door where there's
an inward hatch and an outward hatch.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I don't know, but I know that we're so conditioned
to disbelieve everything.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Who knows because we're not dealing with space travel in
the way that the Apollo missions did it. They're not
going to outer space. It's basically they don't even qualify
as being astronauts as far as I'm concerned. They're in
a really high rocketed plane. If they're all women, it's astronauts.
(17:47):
Come on, foosh, see no astronauts. Sent all your hate
mail to Real Mark Runner. At Real Mark Runner. Look,
there's one thing that we do know.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Damn it.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Even when you get on Disney's Little Mermaid Ride, they
seal the hatch from the outside. There is no way
that eye on the inside can open it up to
let the pressure out let. All the water in. When
you get on a plane, doors are sealed from the outside.
Even the dam sub that exploded underwater was sealed from
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the outside.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But here's the thing, I gotta turn on my microphone.
You can open the doors from the inside. They extend
outward on a plane, so it's not that it's impossible,
but what we were told in advance was you could
not open it from the inside.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Thee not only what we're told, but the design. When
you look at this thing, the doors seal from the outside.
It's almost as if the capsule that we saw, the
staged capsule, was one where it was like, you know,
plywood and plastic and they just landed.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Don't you watch movies. There's an inner door and there's
an out. We didn't see the out. And here's the
here's the problem with that.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
What we saw first was the inner door open and
then his shut real fast, and then we see Basils come,
you know, with his heroic balding self, and then use
his Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Rig to open it up. It was an age. It's
all fake. I'm not and I'm here.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm not a Jeff Bezos hater or I'm rather indifferent
to Basils with exception of what he does to his
news media outlets, but outside of that, I don't care
about Bezos or care about Blue Origin. In fact, I
guess some stories I can tell you about Lauren Sanchez
sometimes because I used to not work with her, but
when I would do media hits for k Coop Channel thirteen,
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she was an anchor at the time, so I dealt
with her a lot. Now there's some things I can
tell you that I don't like about her, you know,
so I'm actually, oh, please do Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
She's living the life now. She has always been ladder climbing.
Let me put it that way. I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, that is consistent with what Keith Olberman says about
her his podcast. He touches on this subjects frequently. Yeah,
it's true. And if you know that, the semi intimate
details of who she's dated, who she's had children with,
it's an escalating pattern of wealth.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Mark Thompson said the same thing. It's true. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
And I say that as someone who's around her enough
to get a general idea. No, I didn't try to
holler out or anything like that. I'm just saying she
made it very clear what her ultimate designs were and
it wasn't to be a television anchor.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
That's all fine, and Danny and her and Katie Perry
and Gail, they can all act like they're floating around
in the kaleidoscope sphere or wherever it is they win.
I don't believe for a second that this thing, after
you look at clear footage of what happened after touchdown,
that is what caused all this In the question why
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they're doing it?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Why would be fake? I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe is to get stock up in.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
His uh phallic shaped ship.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It does look like a man, it does. It does
look like a Johnson. I think we can agree on that.
Probably not an accident, No, no, because you can't have
a design come across your desk and not everyone say
that looks just like, yes it is, let's build it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yes, So you.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Launch it up, you get some studio video of them
floating around in this room that you've got in the back,
and then you have them come down and all of
a sudden, the only cameras that are there to capture
it are cameras that he controls. Why Because he controls
his media. That's what he does.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The serious point you're making is we live in a
time where truth doesn't matter, where facts are fungible, and
reality is what powerful people make it to be.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That's the serious discussion.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't know if this was a stunt, a hoax,
a deep fake, a joke.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
On America or not.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I have always been, i would say, skeptical of sending
up a crew with basically little or no training, no
real spacesuit apparatus to speak of. At least on SpaceX
they have actual suits that they're wearing. Here, they just
have a jumpsuit like a romper, and the hair is
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all flowing and everything.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's like, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't know if what we were looking at was
real or not. I don't have any evidence to offer
to say definitively it was not, because, for as far
as I'm concerned, they're not going to space. They're just
going to a high altitude and then they're experiencing weightlessness,
which is something that can be done in an airplane.
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You know a lot of people train in those air
trainers and you can experience weightlessness.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
If we're being deceived, or we're just being told a
story which is different from what was presented.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'll let the conspiracy theorists like you sort that out.
If there's actual evidence to confirm your disbelief, it will
come out. It's not for me to go all in
and say, you know this, this was a hoax, This
was a you know, pulling the wool over the eyes
of Americas.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's not that it's not important to It's the doors. Okay,
look at the doors. It's all about the doors. Why
got a Westbury? Everybody can hear you, duck, because the
people need to look at the doors. And I'm not
talking about the bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
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Speaker 3 (23:40):
And it closed out this week.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
As far as final thoughts on a tie tonight in
the last night, and you may remember I said last night,
and I'm quoting myself, which is kind of weird quote.
Bernie Sanders is not a potential candidate for president in
twenty twenty eight, and honestly neither is AOC. These rallies,
the oligarchy, rallies Stop oligarchy, have been more performative than transformative.
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Bertie Sanders at Coachella does not matter. There is no
Coachella voting block in California is not in danger of
going red in the presidential election.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Close quote.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Well, here's tonight, and the universe is trying to tell
me I'm wrong. But I also said this quote it
The turnout is great for AOC individually, She's doing great fundraising.
It's no secret that AOC like her or not, is
raising her national profile.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
She may be a candidate for New York governor.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
She could be a Democratic Party congressional leader, as in
future Speaker of the House if she stays in the
House long term.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But all that requires a national profile. All of this,
these rallies help that, all of this help her.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Close quote. Now here's a sample of some of the headlines.
Just since I said that last night. This is all
within the past twenty three hours.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
AOC draws three mile long line for rally in California's
Trump Country. That's from the San Francisco Gate. Sanders in
Ocostio Cortes, electrified Democrats who want to fight Trump.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That's the New York Times today.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
President AOC question mark analysts predict she's a top twenty
twenty eight contender. That's Newsweek, and that's pointing towards Nate
Silver and his prediction. The crowds tell the story. Sanders
AOC get massive draw to rally in red state. That's MSNBC.
Congresswoman AOC is thirty five years old. She fulfills the
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eligibility requirements to become president. In normal times, nobody would
even humor such a conversation. I'm not talking about becoming president.
I'm just talking about becoming the party nominee. But to
devetail on what I was saying last night, those Stop
the Oligarchs rallies were not about the people.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They weren't about the issues.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
They were about marketing and conducting a focus group for
the party, trying to see what messages resonated with the masses.
And I have to give credit where credit is due
to Wala Sharp and I and our video technical director Daniel.
We're all talking about this before the show, and Tuala
had the correct formulation. There is no reason for Bernie
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Sanders and AOC to go out on any quote.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Unquote concert tour, because that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
It was a concert tour which included stopping by an
actual concert in the form of Coachella, and because of that,
Twala thinks. I don't know, but this is what Tula thinks.
He thinks that Bernie is gearing up for one last run.
Mind you, he'd be eighty six when the next election
rolls around. But Twalala thinks Bernie's of the opinion that
he and only he can save the Democrats, which would
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be weird because he's only a Democrat when he runs
for president. He's an independent any other time, including right
now at this moment, he's an independent. Although we can't
predict what will happen in twenty twenty eight and far
beyond from me to tell the Democrats what they need
to do to get right with America, but I will
say this, if either Senator Bernie Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria
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Casio Cortez is the Democratic Party's nominee for president, the
Democrats are going to get creamed.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Are you hearing me? Democrats?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You are going to get creamed, creamed in an all
time sort of beat down way. I know what Bernie
is probably thinking. Bernie's probably thinking, you tried Hillary, she lost.
You tried Kamala she lost. Bernie probably thinks he's the
only one who can save the party and has been
overlooked for the past nine years or so. Democrats, your
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nominee must be someone who can win, not someone a
wing of your party happens to like a lot. And
I slow down because I need you to hear me.
Those are very different things. You can't piss off twenty
percent of your own party with someone who has really,
really liked by only forty percent of your party and
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would struggle to pull Moderates or Reagan Democrats. The party
as a whole would not unite behind Bernie.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Ever, He's not even a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
They've tried it before, and even if they tried again,
the party will not unite behind him. He's an independent
and just caucuses with the party. Well what does that mean, mo,
I'm glad you asked. It means he has never embraced
the party or its platform, except for the benefit the
party affords when running for president, meaning Bernie would get
to be a part of the debates, he would get
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access to the party resources, he would access to have
access to the voter rolls, But the party would not
unite behind Bernie. Sanders and the party would not unite
behind AOC because she is perceived as too far left,
not by conservatives, by even Democrats and liberals. She's too
left for the totality of the party. If the Democrats
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think that it can't get any worse, mess around and
put either Birdie or AOC at the top of the ticket.
And I mean every word of that. For k f
I A M six forty, I'm o Kelly, k f
I M KOs T HD two Los Angeles, Orange County
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Live everywhere on the Young Art Radio
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
YouTube at mister mo'kelly the live video stream going right
now and also live on the iHeartRadio app. We talked
about Fire Festival one. We talked about both of the
documentaries regarding Fire Festival one. We covered that very closely.
We gave you our music industry inside about what goes
into those types of festivals, what is expected, what is required,
(00:29):
and the amount of criminality exhibited by Billy McFarlane who
created the first fire Festival that did not happen. He
spent four years in prison after being convicted of wirefraud
and he defrauded his investors out of twenty seven point
four million dollars, and for some reason, the same dude,
(00:50):
same dude, tried to do it again. He's called it
fire Festival again. It's like if it didn't leave a
really bad taste in your mouth the first time, he's
going to try to name it. It's almost like after
you catch a venereal disease, you probably don't want to
have any reminder of that if you name it fire
Festival and everyone is pissed off because you took advantage
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of everyone, and you still had to pay twenty six
million dollars in restitution. The last thing you should do
is called the next iteration, Fire Festival two. Why because
it's going to remind everyone of Fire Festival one and
what a cluster truck that was. So not surprisingly, it
was announced yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Say it with me. Fire Festival two has been post polled.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Not that anyone actually believe that it was going to happen,
but it's been post poned. It was supposed to be
from May thirtieth to June second, and we were wonderings like,
I don't know how they're going to pull this off,
because they're selling tickets for it for like thousands of dollars.
They weren't selling a lot of tickets. There weren't a
lot of specifics. There was no idea as far as
the accommodations. In fact, where it was supposed to be
(01:57):
held in Mexico, the play was supposed to be. Hell
there sound like, we have no idea what this is
supposed to be, We have no itinerary, we have no
expectation of.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Guests showing up.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
There was no official host hotel who was saying like yeah, we're.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Expecting this to happen in two months. None of that
was in place. And also and also Billy McFarlane, the
guy who was in prison and the founder of.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
This, it wasn't clear he would even get.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Permission because he was on parole to travel outside of
the country to attend this.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Even if they were to pull it off, and they didn't.
What is mind boggling to me is there probably are
some people who purchased some of the tickets and paid
thousands of dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
This is like how many times can Lucy pull the
football from you?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
There were several people that after the first time we
were reported this I saw that were online on the
post about it, talking about give him a chance. This
is a once in a lifetime event. I can't wait.
I've already got my tickets. For all we know, those
could have been bots that he hired. But I know
you had said you were going to reach out to
him on social media. Did you send him a request
(03:10):
to come on and oh, yeah, yeah, I did has
responded at all.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, no, no, no, we reached out because I remember
we played some audio from him and I'm looking for
it now and we tried to. We picked it apart
and so like, you can't be serious that you're actually
going to try to do this again. And he was
actually dismissive of people who didn't believe in him or
believe that he could actually pull this off.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
He was literally saying, look, I'll come on and talk
about it with anyone anytime. I don't care. And I
was like, okay, you're invited and never heard of that. Yeah,
I knew this joker wasn't serious. This whole event isn't serious.
This is the textbook definition of delusions of grandeur.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Fire Festival is back, if you can believe it. It's
been eight years since this ad premiered, featuring bikini clad
models and promising an unforgettable Caribbean experience, complete with luxurious
accommodations and a list entertainment. It was basically the exact
opposite of everything we had promised and unforgettable. It was
festivalgoers who shelled out thousands of dollars were greeted with
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tents and soggy sandwiches in no electricity.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
There was no showers, there's no bathrooms, there's no like
running water.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
The disaster gained worldwide attention.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Spawning multiple documentaries.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm absolutely disaster.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
And landing co founder Billy McFarland in prison for four
years for SAWED.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
I really should have canceled everything and just stopped lying.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
After being released from prison in twenty twenty two, McFarlane
told our Michael Strahan he is not a con man.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
I put every dollar I had or could find to
make this festival happen.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Now, he says, Fire Festival is happening this time. No,
it is Farland posting. I'm sure many people think I'm
crazy for doing this again, but I feel I'd be
crazy not to do it again. The festival is set
to take place on a Mexican island beginning in late May.
Tickets now on st although no performers have been announced.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
What makes Fire so cool is that we are selling
the experience of fire. I want to be one of
the first festivals that can sell out with no artists.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
A total of two thousand tickets are being sold, the
cheapest fourteen hundred dollars, all the way up to waking
one point one million.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Dollars, which gets you a stay on a private yacht.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
And McFarlane could use the money, he owes twenty six
million dollars in restitution from his first Fire festival.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Solby once shame on me, but at the courage to
prove the impossible possible and the courage to be a
part of history. Before we get into the lineup news,
I need to discuss what happened this week. On Thursday,
we hosted a press conference at the Martina Beach Club,
which is one of the official venues for Fire II.
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Our production, venue and hospitality partners and the government were
all there and all spoke on their plans for Fire too.
This week we will begin to release the lineup. Never
have DJs, rappers, reggae artists, pop stars, but also athletes, divers, models,
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pilots and creators. Will leave the experiences for our guests.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Wait.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Divers is all about these intimate experiences. We'll have dozens
of artists in a private party. Like setting, Fire is
all about the people you'll meet, the memories will make,
and the stories that you will be able to tell
your rest of your life. Fire two can only happen once.
Once it's sold out, that's it. There's no way, never happened.
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Just like the battle and fighting every day, there are
no more chances.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Okay, so that means there's no more chances. We're done
with fire Festival, right, We're done. It's never gonna happen, right,
I never. No Fire three is coming. My favorite comment
is someone said they want to just buy tickets so
they can end up on the next documentary.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
How can you call it? Fire to would fire one
never happened? Fire to the Deuce? Yeah? Bugaloo? Right yeah?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Fire to electric Okay, okay, Oh, how do you tell
yourself that this is going to be any different when
you're starting from a further place behind, when you have
more working against you.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I know we're against the clock, but because Mo, you're
smarter than all of us. But how I appreciate that?
How how legally is he allowed to do this? No,
there was a question of whether he could because he's
using the same brand which was fraudulent, and using the
same mode of promising this, that and the other which
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you did not deliver, which landed his ass in prison before.
I don't know, maybe he pulled the plug because he
was getting close to.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That line again and he couldn't deliver on.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Any of this because all the things that he talked
about in that video he did not deliver We never
heard about anyone who's performing. We never heard anything about
the hotel, never heard anything about the other the activations
or activities which would be going on, none of that.
But he was asking for ungodly sums of money and
we don't know how many people bought tickets or whatever
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happened to the money that he did collect so far.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Mark my words, he's going to run for president and
he might win. Huh.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. And when we come back, we're
going to tell you about the streaming leader board, not
just what maybe you know, the top ten movies on Netflix,
but the top of streaming all across all platforms, and
it might surprise you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Live on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app, and let's talk
a little bit about streaming. We've talked about any number
of shows that I liked, like, for example, I loved Adolescents,
Stephan saw Adolescents, Love Adolescents. We love Paradise, and I
think Stefan saw that as well saw it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Mark saw that, and you wonder at least on a week.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
To week basis, what is really capturing people's imagination and eyeballs.
In other words, something maybe in the top ten of Netflix,
but does that mean anything? What does that mean against
the Apple shows? What does that mean against maybe the
Hulu shows or the Max shows and the Hollywood Reporter.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
As of late, we need to do this more often.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Now is providing the Nielsen streaming ratings covering TV viewing
on TV sets and also streaming platforms, and you get
a better sense. I don't know how specifically accurate it is,
but it monitors the minutes of viewing and they rank
the shows across the streaming platforms as far as the
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most amount of time people spend watching the shows, and
that's how they rank these so very quickly. The top
ten shows of streaming for the week of March seventeenth
through the twenty third, so it's about maybe twenty twenty
five days behind right now, so coming in at number
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ten as far as streaming across that time period, Severance
on Apple TV plus nineteen episodes, eight hundred and seventy
six million minutes of viewership coming in at number nine
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wicket and it's available I Guess on Peacock at this
point one quote unquote episode nine hundred and five million
minutes of viewership. By the way, I didn't know that
that because you said the it's basically first this is
the first part, right, Yes, that thing is long. It's long,
(10:57):
and they only got halfway through. Jeez, yeah, yeah they
And that's why I didn't do it for me, because
tell the whole story, not a portion of the story.
Most of the people were watching the movie. They know
the whole story. Yeah, because I considered watching it, but
it was almost three hours and I'm like, that's part one,
and you did get to the edge exactly. And I
think that's part of the reason why I did not
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win the main awards, because it was a complete coming
in at number eight. Family Guy on Hulu four hundred
and forty one episodes, nine hundred and nineteen million minutes
of viewership across that week.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Number seven.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The White Lotus on Max at that point nineteen episodes out,
nine hundred and seventy three million minutes of viewership.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I suspect that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's going to grow, And so when everybody's talking about
has everyone yeah, has anyone here seen that I don't
watch it, and Daniel just put up the top ten
list and sort of gave away.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I'm gonna ask you about that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I saw that god purpose of a Top ten coming
in at number six, if you didn't already see it
as posted on the YouTube videostream.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So much suspense, I know, count the piece of purpose
of a drum bluie.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I have no idea what this is on Disney Plus
Kids Show, Well, I figured that one hundred and fifty
four episodes, nine hundred and seventy five million minutes of viewership.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well, Mills, we'll forget the drum roll.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Number five is Gray's Anatomy on Hulu slash Netflix. Still, yeah,
that's what it's really interesting, Wow, nine hundred and seventy
seven million viewership minutes. Number four is Reacher on Prime
Video one one yeah, one thousand and so this would
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be a billion in ninety seven viewership minutes.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Well deserved.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Number three is Moana two on Disney Plus one point
one billion million, one point one billion viewership millions. I
know it's kind of because they say minutes and millions
transposing in my head.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Number two is The Residents.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I haven't seen that, but I've heard good things about
it on Netflix one point three billion and number one. Again,
this is across March seventeenth through the twenty third, So
we were really talking about this show during that time.
I don't know if it's still number one in contemporary views,
but across March seventeenth through the twenty third, number one
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is Adolescents on Netflix. So good, No, no real surprisere
no real surprise. But since it only had four episodes,
it tells you that there was a lot of intense
viewership during that time. Mark, have you seen it yet? No,
I'm working my way through Black Mirror right now. I'll
get to it though. Look I'm the same way.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You start something, and for me to start something, it
has to be digestible.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You gotta finish another one.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
First, Adolescents with digestibles four episodes, I could like watching movies.
They're digestible. When you say Black Mirror, how what seven seasons? Yeah, sure,
you can just jump in. Okay, all right, and there
you go. We're gonna try to add this each and
every week. The overall top ten of streaming. We get
a sense of what everybody's watching, not just what we
are watching. It's later with mo Kelly ca if I
(14:30):
AM six forty life everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and
on YouTube, where we give away all the top tens
before we even finish them.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I'm just playing with you, Daniel, Thank you for everything
you do.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You're listening to later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Five, everywhere, in iHeartRadio app and on YouTube. Let me
say hello to my mother who's watching right now on
YouTube at mister mo Kelly's where you'll find the live
stream and also previous streams. I know we live in
a conspiratorial world. It's not just this country, I would
say the whole world. I know we live in a
world where we have to deal with AI creations, deep
(15:07):
fake creations. I know that we have to deal with
those malicious creators of content designed to fool us, to
have us disbelieve in what we thought was known to
be true, from landing on the Moon or whatever. There
are a lot of purveyors of disinformation and misinformation out there.
(15:29):
I don't think anyone would dispute that. But now we
almost believe nothing, We see nothing. We questioned everything to
the point of not being able to discern what is
real or is not real, And although it was heavily covered,
there was a lot of media coverage of the six
women who flew into space. And I put that in
(15:53):
air quotes because if you get into the weeds, they
broke the Carmen line, which is like sixty two miles
above the surface of the Earth, and they experienced weightlessness,
but they didn't go into outer space. I think it's
like the Messo sphere or something like that. But that's minutie.
There's a concern now and a question of whether it
happened at all, and they're pointing to some video that
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everyone saw.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was like it was hitting anything, and it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Called into question whether the Shepherd capsule worked as we
were told it was designed to work. There was a
moment on the video where you see the hatch being
opened from the inside, where prior to that we were
told that you can only open the hatch from the
(16:40):
outside with a tool, and we saw Jeff Bezos fumbling
around the outside of the hatch and people who are
disbelieving that this ever happened at all, and that these celebrities,
including Katy Perry, where ever in danger or pointing to
this moment saying see this is a and I'm prepare
for phrasing. But if it were actually a pressurized capsule,
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you can't open a hatch inward. Think of like being
on a plane. Those doors have to open outward. I
don't know. I really don't know how it's supposed to work,
or whether it was like a double door where there's
an inward hatch and an outward hatch.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I don't know, but I know that we're so conditioned
to disbelieve everything.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Who knows because we're not dealing with space travel in
the way that the Apollo missions did it. They're not
going to outer space. It's basically they don't even qualify
as being astronauts as far as I'm concerned. They're in
a really high rocketed plane. If they're all women, it's astronauts.
(17:47):
Come on, foosh, see no astronauts. Sent all your hate
mail to Real Mark Runner. At Real Mark Runner. Look,
there's one thing that we do know.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Damn it.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Even when you get on Disney's Little Mermaid Ride, they
seal the hatch from the outside. There is no way
that eye on the inside can open it up to
let the pressure out let. All the water in. When
you get on a plane, doors are sealed from the outside.
Even the dam sub that exploded underwater was sealed from
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the outside.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But here's the thing, I gotta turn on my microphone.
You can open the doors from the inside. They extend
outward on a plane, so it's not that it's impossible,
but what we were told in advance was you could
not open it from the inside.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Thee not only what we're told, but the design. When
you look at this thing, the doors seal from the outside.
It's almost as if the capsule that we saw, the
staged capsule, was one where it was like, you know,
plywood and plastic and they just landed.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Don't you watch movies. There's an inner door and there's
an out. We didn't see the out. And here's the
here's the problem with that.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
What we saw first was the inner door open and
then his shut real fast, and then we see Basils come,
you know, with his heroic balding self, and then use
his Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Rig to open it up. It was an age. It's
all fake. I'm not and I'm here.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm not a Jeff Bezos hater or I'm rather indifferent
to Basils with exception of what he does to his
news media outlets, but outside of that, I don't care
about Bezos or care about Blue Origin. In fact, I
guess some stories I can tell you about Lauren Sanchez
sometimes because I used to not work with her, but
when I would do media hits for k Coop Channel thirteen,
(19:39):
she was an anchor at the time, so I dealt
with her a lot. Now there's some things I can
tell you that I don't like about her, you know,
so I'm actually, oh, please do Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
She's living the life now. She has always been ladder climbing.
Let me put it that way. I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, that is consistent with what Keith Olberman says about
her his podcast. He touches on this subjects frequently. Yeah,
it's true. And if you know that, the semi intimate
details of who she's dated, who she's had children with,
it's an escalating pattern of wealth.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Mark Thompson said the same thing. It's true. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
And I say that as someone who's around her enough
to get a general idea. No, I didn't try to
holler out or anything like that. I'm just saying she
made it very clear what her ultimate designs were and
it wasn't to be a television anchor.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
That's all fine, and Danny and her and Katie Perry
and Gail, they can all act like they're floating around
in the kaleidoscope sphere or wherever it is they win.
I don't believe for a second that this thing, after
you look at clear footage of what happened after touchdown,
that is what caused all this In the question why
(20:49):
they're doing it?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Why would be fake? I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe is to get stock up in.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
His uh phallic shaped ship.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It does look like a man, it does. It does
look like a Johnson. I think we can agree on that.
Probably not an accident, No, no, because you can't have
a design come across your desk and not everyone say
that looks just like, yes it is, let's build it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yes, So you.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Launch it up, you get some studio video of them
floating around in this room that you've got in the back,
and then you have them come down and all of
a sudden, the only cameras that are there to capture
it are cameras that he controls. Why Because he controls
his media. That's what he does.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The serious point you're making is we live in a
time where truth doesn't matter, where facts are fungible, and
reality is what powerful people make it to be.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That's the serious discussion.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't know if this was a stunt, a hoax,
a deep fake, a joke.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
On America or not.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I have always been, i would say, skeptical of sending
up a crew with basically little or no training, no
real spacesuit apparatus to speak of. At least on SpaceX
they have actual suits that they're wearing. Here, they just
have a jumpsuit like a romper, and the hair is
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all flowing and everything.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's like, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't know if what we were looking at was
real or not. I don't have any evidence to offer
to say definitively it was not, because, for as far
as I'm concerned, they're not going to space. They're just
going to a high altitude and then they're experiencing weightlessness,
which is something that can be done in an airplane.
(22:42):
You know a lot of people train in those air
trainers and you can experience weightlessness.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
If we're being deceived, or we're just being told a
story which is different from what was presented.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'll let the conspiracy theorists like you sort that out.
If there's actual evidence to confirm your disbelief, it will
come out. It's not for me to go all in
and say, you know this, this was a hoax, This
was a you know, pulling the wool over the eyes
of Americas.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's not that it's not important to It's the doors. Okay,
look at the doors. It's all about the doors. Why
got a Westbury? Everybody can hear you, duck, because the
people need to look at the doors. And I'm not
talking about the bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And it closed out this week.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
As far as final thoughts on a tie tonight in
the last night, and you may remember I said last night,
and I'm quoting myself, which is kind of weird quote.
Bernie Sanders is not a potential candidate for president in
twenty twenty eight, and honestly neither is AOC. These rallies,
the oligarchy, rallies Stop oligarchy, have been more performative than transformative.
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Bertie Sanders at Coachella does not matter. There is no
Coachella voting block in California is not in danger of
going red in the presidential election.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Close quote.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Well, here's tonight, and the universe is trying to tell
me I'm wrong. But I also said this quote it
The turnout is great for AOC individually, She's doing great fundraising.
It's no secret that AOC like her or not, is
raising her national profile.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
She may be a candidate for New York governor.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
She could be a Democratic Party congressional leader, as in
future Speaker of the House if she stays in the
House long term.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But all that requires a national profile. All of this,
these rallies help that, all of this help her.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Close quote. Now here's a sample of some of the headlines.
Just since I said that last night. This is all
within the past twenty three hours.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
AOC draws three mile long line for rally in California's
Trump Country. That's from the San Francisco Gate. Sanders in
Ocostio Cortes, electrified Democrats who want to fight Trump.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That's the New York Times today.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
President AOC question mark analysts predict she's a top twenty
twenty eight contender. That's Newsweek, and that's pointing towards Nate
Silver and his prediction. The crowds tell the story. Sanders
AOC get massive draw to rally in red state. That's MSNBC.
Congresswoman AOC is thirty five years old. She fulfills the
(25:35):
eligibility requirements to become president. In normal times, nobody would
even humor such a conversation. I'm not talking about becoming president.
I'm just talking about becoming the party nominee. But to
devetail on what I was saying last night, those Stop
the Oligarchs rallies were not about the people.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They weren't about the issues.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
They were about marketing and conducting a focus group for
the party, trying to see what messages resonated with the masses.
And I have to give credit where credit is due
to Wala Sharp and I and our video technical director Daniel.
We're all talking about this before the show, and Tuala
had the correct formulation. There is no reason for Bernie
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Sanders and AOC to go out on any quote.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Unquote concert tour, because that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
It was a concert tour which included stopping by an
actual concert in the form of Coachella, and because of that,
Twala thinks. I don't know, but this is what Tula thinks.
He thinks that Bernie is gearing up for one last run.
Mind you, he'd be eighty six when the next election
rolls around. But Twalala thinks Bernie's of the opinion that
he and only he can save the Democrats, which would
(26:47):
be weird because he's only a Democrat when he runs
for president. He's an independent any other time, including right
now at this moment, he's an independent. Although we can't
predict what will happen in twenty twenty eight and far
beyond from me to tell the Democrats what they need
to do to get right with America, but I will
say this, if either Senator Bernie Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria
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Casio Cortez is the Democratic Party's nominee for president, the
Democrats are going to get creamed.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Are you hearing me? Democrats?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You are going to get creamed, creamed in an all
time sort of beat down way. I know what Bernie
is probably thinking. Bernie's probably thinking, you tried Hillary, she lost.
You tried Kamala she lost. Bernie probably thinks he's the
only one who can save the party and has been
overlooked for the past nine years or so. Democrats, your
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nominee must be someone who can win, not someone a
wing of your party happens to like a lot. And
I slow down because I need you to hear me.
Those are very different things. You can't piss off twenty
percent of your own party with someone who has really,
really liked by only forty percent of your party and
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would struggle to pull Moderates or Reagan Democrats. The party
as a whole would not unite behind Bernie.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Ever, He's not even a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
They've tried it before, and even if they tried again,
the party will not unite behind him. He's an independent
and just caucuses with the party. Well what does that mean, mo,
I'm glad you asked. It means he has never embraced
the party or its platform, except for the benefit the
party affords when running for president, meaning Bernie would get
to be a part of the debates, he would get
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access to the party resources, he would access to have
access to the voter rolls, But the party would not
unite behind Bernie. Sanders and the party would not unite
behind AOC because she is perceived as too far left,
not by conservatives, by even Democrats and liberals. She's too
left for the totality of the party. If the Democrats
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think that it can't get any worse, mess around and
put either Birdie or AOC at the top of the ticket.
And I mean every word of that. For k f
I A M six forty, I'm o Kelly, k f
I M KOs T HD two Los Angeles, Orange County
Speaker 3 (29:16):
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