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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Kay if I O'Kelly. We're coming down to the end
of the year. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
and we have this complex relationship with Variety. They come
out with these lists the best, the worst, all time
twenty twenty four, and it reminds us that these critics
(00:31):
don't see the world as you and I do, but
they're worth discussing. The best movies of twenty twenty four
according to Variety magazine, or at least their online portal,
have come out, and they have two critics who've listed
their top ten and a difference you have listed their
bottom ten.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So we're going to get through these as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The best movies of twenty twenty four according to the
first critic, Owen Glieberman and uh uh who there's some
doozies in here. This is the best? Are we are?
We ready? Stephan? All right, here we go. Number ten,
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The best kinds of Kindness. I have no idea what
that is.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That's the latest one from your ghosts Lanthemos, who did
the other one with I'm multitasking here. I haven't seen
it yet, but what's the one bits of badness? No no, no, no,
no no. I should be focusing on you instead of
my work. I don't know what I was thinking. Bottom
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line is you're familiar with the title at least.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, the follow up to the big Award winner that
it was the woman who played Mary Jane in one
of those crappy Spider Man movies. Hey, Kirsten Duncetowe No no, no, no,
the other one. Uh hey, this is annoying me know. No,
well wait, emm a Stone. Yeah, but she didn't play
Mary Jane. Did she play Mary Jane? I thought she
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played some of the other Yeah, she was Mary Jane.
And I think one of the worst worst Spider Man's
Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield. Yeah, Poor Things. It's the director
of Poor Things. Poor Things was really good, if you
say so.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Number nine best movie twenty twenty four, according to one
Variety critic, Bad Fate, Christian Nationalism's Unholy War on Democracy.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, we can just move on. Number eight.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Wha wait, is that a documentary? I have no idea. Okay,
it's a horror movie.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Number eight Baby Girl with Nicole Kidman. They're just abstract.
They have early access to a lot of stuff that
we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, check this out.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Coming in at number seven best movie at twenty twenty
four according to Variety, The People's Joker, which they list
as the real sequel to Joker after the artistic and
commercial flame out of Joker. Vera Drew in her underground
slash Midnight Slash Guerrilla Cinema Sensation, plays the maniacal Joker
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of DC Legend, who is also an outlaw parody of
the Joker.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's number seven. Number six a completely unknown. That's the filling.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, odds of me ever seeing that are approximately in
the negative.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I might see that because I like biopics. I might
see that more, as Tawala calls them biopics.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah. Yes, Number five.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Skywalker's a love story and no, it's not Star Wars related.
It's a documentary about rooftoppers who scale the tallest skyscrapers
in the world and then climb onto the splendly curved
spires that shoot out from the tops of the buildings. Nope,
so far, I think I know one movie from this list.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You'll know number four.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Here's number four, Inside Out number two, Inside Out Too.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I haven't seen it, but the first one was great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Number three and this is Owen Glieberman of Variety's Top
ten Movies of twenty twenty four A real pain, Jesse Eisenberg.
This is so esoterical list. It's like, you get so
far out there. It's like, do you actually just watch
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movies for enjoyment or do you watch them to inflate
your ego?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
These lists don't do anything to dispel the image of
critics as a bunch of defeats knobs.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, they're like just they're just trying to look cool
and above everyone. Because no, I hate for them to
pick something popular and known.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Right, wait till you get to number one, Oh boy,
Number two.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The Seed of the Sacred fig That trailer looks good,
but I haven't seen the movie.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
In fact, it's not even out yet.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
All right, And number one, according to Owen Glieberman Top
ten movies of twenty twenty four, Tennis Anyone, Challengers. Oh
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my god, okay, is this can't be real? This can't
be a serious list. Did they have a picture of
Owen or Omore whatever his name is, Owen Gleieberman, didn't
he used to work for Entertainment Weekly. I don't know,
but he should hide himself. I'm just yeah, I'm just
wondering because that movie, I could tell. I didn't even
have to see the movie, but just the trailer alone,
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for sure appeals to like tweeners, tweeners and like people,
you know, early twenties.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But it was universally panned. Yeah, because universally. I didn't
really get it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And then I watched this guy who does movie reviews,
and once it got explained, it's like this could have been.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
One episode of a show, and.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It got a lot of hype because I guess there's
some threesome action or something like that, a lot of
heavy petting and kissing. There's a yeah, there's some weird stuff.
It's it was just they were just trying to be weird,
all right. When we come back, we'll come up with
Peter de Broog's Top ten of twenty twenty four. A variety,
the Brouges, the Bruh Dabars, one of the two Cell Dabars.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We're talking about the best movies of twenty twenty four
according to Variety magazine, and they have two critics who
did the best of twenty twenty four and another two
critics who did the worst of twenty twenty four. This
is now Peter Debrug's I'm probably mispronouncing that Peter Debrug's
top ten for twenty twenty four. And I'll rely on
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Mark Ronner to know what any of these movies are.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Well, you know, one thing that we've got going on
here is that they save a lot of the what
they expect to be the award winners for the tail
end of the year, so they'll be fresh in everybody's minds.
So a lot of us haven't seen these or most
of these.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Coming in at number ten, the Counts of Monte Cristo
case in point. Didn't even know that that existed.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You do now? Number nine.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
The Room next Door starring Julianne Moore and Tilda Swinton.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh that's pedro on Motivar, isn't it correct? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, see, I know you serve some purpose, but again,
haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Not available. Number eight Green Border sequel to The Green
Book perhaps or Behind the Green Door.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'll take that one, Yeah, you have to be a
certain agent to give that one.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Number seven them f E M M E. Nope, the best.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of twenty twenty four. We can't even get a movie
that we've all heard of. All of us have heard of.
Number six The best movies of twenty twenty four, according
to one Variety critic.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Edward Sebastian stan ring A Bell. No, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Number five, Now you've lost me. Dune Part two. No, no, no, no.
Don't you dare try to co sign and agree with this.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
No, I wouldn't because I cut my losses after the
first one. I mean, after taking three sittings to get
through the first one.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
No way. Number four.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Anora, Okay, that one I have heard of and I've
been trying to get to see, and that's got some
good buzz.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Now number three you might take issue with Mark because
I know you've seen it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Here we go the bike Riders. That's not bad.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I wouldn't say it's one of the years best, though,
you've gotta they need to get out more, I guess,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Number two it made both lists.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
The Seed of the Sacred fig.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It okay, Look they're so far out there is really
hard to take them seriously, that they're actual film critics
and not just someone who's clout chasing for some sort
of film credibility. Yeah, and number one according to one
critic of Variety, as far as the best movie of
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twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
What's this guy's name again? What's his name? Peter de Bruges.
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Inside Out too, one of the biggest movies of the year.
It doesn't really fit with the others, now, does it.
It doesn't seem like that will be the same person.
As far as they're likes and dislikes, and they are aesthetics,
what they find pleasing in a movie, It doesn't seem
like that that would be from the same person. But yes,
that's what it is. Yes, Peter and Owen critics forever
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sound like a couple of really relatable dudes, don't they
have to do?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Owen Glieberman and Peter de Bruges. Why isn't the substance
on either of these lists? Come on? Nope, Well, maybe
it's on the worst movies of twenty twenty four. Don't impassive?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Bla, No, no, no, no, Actually, Wayne was asking me about
the substance this morning. I hadn't seen it because I'm
not too big on horror, but I said that you
thought very highly of it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Also, it was a movie that played in theaters that
human beings are actually able to see, unlike nearly every
title you just read.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And as far as the worst movies, will save this
for next segment. They only have a list of five,
these same critics five of the worst films for twenty
twenty four, And with any luck, there'll probably be movies
that we like or think more highly of than most people.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well, if Craven's not on that list, it is completely irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm looking at it and no, but there is a
movie or two that we probably are in agreement on.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Probably What did you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Say the Sebastian Stan movie was Oh, you asked me
to go back in the pile Edward.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Wasn't it? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It doesn't seem to be on here. You mean it
doesn't exist. Well, I looked it up. I tried to
put Edward. It just gives me Edward Norton, and then
I looked up Sebastian Stan and it doesn't have it.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
So I don't know. Are you saying I made it up. No,
you're saying, I lie. Maybe it's a start film. I
don't know. I have to find it. Now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You read a phony list generated by an age that
that just shows how much they're trying to be cool
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I think, I'm trying to find where it is. Okay,
it's not on that list. Inside out see the Sacred
Bike Riders an ra Dune, A different Man, Different Man.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh okay, Yeah, that's there, and the title character is Edward.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh there we go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
An aspiring actor undergoes a radical medical procedure to drastically
transform his appearance, but his new dream face quickly turns
into that a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That actually did look pretty interesting, But yeah, I don't know.
Is that a takeoff on Twilight Zone?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
No, it looks like one of the actors actually had
I think neurofibermatosis or something.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
In real life. It doesn't sound all that interesting, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's more about, like, I guess the way to describe
it would be like self esteem issues, because yeah, he
gets that surgery, but everyone sees him as like the
more attractive person. He still sees himself the same way.
So it's that type of thing. But it looked kind
of interesting. I mean, it caught my eye, but I
who knows if it's the best. Oh, I can say
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it's probably not the best. You know, I haven't seen it,
and I'm willing to wager money it's not the best
or amongst the ten best.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And I think Mark would even agree with me on that.
I had not planned to see that one. It looked
really unappealing to me. I'm not one of those critics
I never have been who feels like I need to
see absolutely every single thing that comes out. Also, my
my tastes are a lot more mainstream, and a lot
of these guys, I mean, you'll never hear one of
these guys going to town on a horror film or
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or an action film, like I'm still pissed at the
second Christopher Nolan Batman movie didn't win an Oscar.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, when you get when we get back and we
talk about the worst movies of twenty twenty four, according
to these same two critics, they get a little more mainstream,
not a lot, but a little bit more, and you're
gonna be even more INFURIATD boy, it's.
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Speaker 2 (15:42):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and at the
top of the hour. We started with the best movies
of twenty twenty four and this is according to Variety Magazine,
who we often are at odds with. They have two
film critics who gave us their lists of both the
best and worst of what Hollywood had to offer in
twenty twenty four. We did the best, and now we're
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going to give you their worst, or what they felt
is the worst. Critic by critic, this is Owen Glieberman's
five worst films.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
They didn't give us a full list, just five. Any predictions.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
We've waited through so many Code Browns this year, it's
hard to think of just one.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You would think that some there's some easy targets to
place on this list, right, I mean, I mentioned Craven.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Did Madame web come out this year or last year?
Just last year? I think so. I think so. I
think Madam webbs last year. I couldn't swear that it
was this year.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
It wasn't on their list last year, and we'll see
if Craven's on their list this year, coming in at
number five. As far as the five worst movies of
twenty twenty four according to Owen Glieberman, Lisa Frankenstein, I
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didn't see that, and nor will you.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
No.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Number four The End starring Michael Shannon and Tilda Swinton.
Crickets again.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, this is going to raise some eyebrows when I
tell you what number three is.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Reagan, Oh, the Dennis Quaid Reagan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now, I've heard vary and wide opinions of the movie,
but I didn't hear that it was one of the
worst of the year. Fell short for a lot of people,
but it wasn't one of the worst. And number two,
and this is according to Owen Glieberman's five worst Films
of Variety for twenty twenty four. Rumors are U M
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O U R S. Okay, So their worst are just
as obscure as their best. Yeah, yeah, there have always
been critical darlings. But then there's that rare category of
film directors who are treated as esthetic saints. The whimsical, hermitic, Canadian,
experimental cinophile prankster.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Just what Madam Web did come out this year? It
just came out super early. It was February fourteenth, Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
So the fact that Madam Web and Godzilla of X
Kong are not on this list already, these two should
be drummed out of the Critics Union.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
They don't really have an interest in any of the
mainstream films for the most part.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
The most part that awful joker folly of Deuce.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Beyond this, it didn't make This should be the deuce
on everyone's list because it was peered material.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It was a true number two. Liked it?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They probably did, They probably did. They probably did. Any
guesses on what's number one? It's probably a movie you've
never heard of.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That's what I say.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
There's no way to guess, to wilt any guesses, cake,
don't eat it while you're alone in the bathtub. I
don't know this type of film that these individs was like.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Here we go number one.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
If I didn't know any better, I would say that
this was probably a porno.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
And coming in at number one is the worst movie
of twenty twenty four. According to Owen, Gleiberman, a variety
pool man as as opposed to pool boy. That's not
a Porner, No, it's not, it says. Even if you're
a fan of Chris Pine, you may stare slack jawed
at this absurdist disaster of an la noir, which he directed,
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co wrote, and stars. And he plays a frowsy, long
haired pool cleaner who sort of liked the dude, except
he's a dude whose brains are leaking out of his ears.
Pine doesn't stage scenes exactly. It's all dithering, half jokes
and wispy warped asides wrapped around a conspiracy plot that
has the same relation to Chinatown that Boxed Wine has
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to Chateau Lafitte Roth's child. See, these are guys who
are way too wrapped up in their poetic prose to
just explain why the movie's bad in understandable, relatable, digestible terms.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
It sounds like a riff on The Big Lebowski, but
this one at least you can see. It's on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
The only thing they got right is that, yeah, he
kind of does look they kind of made him look
like the dude. Okay, that's about it. Yeah, but it
clearly wasn't on anybody's radar. You know, there are some
other movies out there which deserve equal mention. There should
have been an hon mentioned or because if madaw Web
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came out this year, that's gotta be one of the worst.
Gotta be at the top. Look, if it's not even
number one, it's got to be two, three, four or
five put together, it's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It can't be. It can't be.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, Madam Webb, is you know, only the fifteenth worst
movie of the year.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
It couldn't be. That couldn't possibly be that Craven came
out this year. And if they can put something as
recent as the Bob Dylan film on their best films list,
then they can add Craven onto their list of the worst.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And by the way, why wasn't Civil War on any
of these best of life I was thinking that.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Look, when I saw Civil War, I said, Okay, that's
gonna be a best picture comedy. I really thought so inventive, creative,
completely new. I thought it was maybe too smart for
a lot of people, and I thought it was timely
for the time in which we live, even though it's
not about quote unquote this America like Earth two, but
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it was.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
It was a really good film, The Crow Remake that
should have been on the worst of lists. I'm just
looking through my runner reports from the year. These people
are out of touch, hacks. I dismissed them.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Hopefully they're listening. I hope they are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
When we come back, we'll get Peter Debarge's worse five
bar He doesn't even Bruce. He he's L's third cousin
or something like that. Kf S forty one five everywhere
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (22:35):
Forty and before we get out of here, we're finishing
up the worst movies of twenty twenty four according to
these two critics at Variety, and they just don't make
sense to me. First, we gave you Owen Gleieberman's five
worst films and his worst film with twenty twenty four
is pool Man didn't know anything about it. Now we
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go to Peter de Bruce slash Dubar and his five
worst films of twenty twenty four, coming in at number
five Rebel Moon Director's Cut. He's not wrong, he's not wrong,
He's wrong. The first one we can all agree with
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h number four of the worst movies of twenty twenty
four according to Variety critic Peter de Bruges, Harold and
the Purple Crayon.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I heard that was hot trash, so two for two
for all right, number three.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm not proud, but this movie was featured on our show,
not another church movie.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I absolutely refuse to disrespect to Tyler Perry film.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No matter what. It's not a Tyler Perry film. It
was a takeoff on a Tyler Perry film. Oh that
was the one where they were clowning the topic. Okay,
well then yeah, well, then that one can be on
the list. Yeah, okay, coming in at number two of
the worst movies of twenty twenty four according to Variety
critic Peter De Bruce.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The mouse Trap, Oh.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
That's the Is that the the one we're supposed to
be the Mickey Mouse horror film?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yes? I think it was that, Yeah, yes, it is so.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I just I just remember rhy McBain, one of our
Nerdorama contributors, talking about that ONUE.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Okay, this one's available on Peacock and Pluto. I gotta
say this. So it's another like a blood and honey. Yes,
it is the type of thing.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Okay, yeah, so so he's so far, he's pretty on point.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This one's a lot better, a lot, but at least
the movies that we've heard of, all right, any guesses?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Do we get a craven at number one?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Do we get a recognizable move movie that we can
agree is horrible enough to be considered the worst movie
of twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
The odds are in her favor. He's doing better in
this one.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, on this one, but you know it's a varietal one,
so you never know. Here we go, number one, the
worst movie of twenty twenty four, according to film critic
Peter de Bruges of Variety, dog Man.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't know, never heard of it. It's weird?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Is that an animated feature? What is dog Man?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
People will spend time with these movies. While audiences are
divided about Amelia Perez's Netflix's culturally questionable celebration of a
trans cartel boss, leave it to Luke Besson to demonstrate
how such an audacious tight rope act could have turned
out much much worse, embodying the lead role of a
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cross dressing wheelchair using antihero who can will street dogs
to do his bidding. Caleb Landry Jones is one of
the most fearless actors of this generation, but Besson's third
rate joker Rip Office ill conceived on every level, a
convoluted act of misplaced empathy in which a police psychologist
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struggles to tame a deeply traumatized outsider who was literally
raised in a doghouse. Okay, okay, why would you even
spend time watching something like that or making it? Let's
get to the making it part. You made this film, somebody,
Luke Besson.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Luke Luke goes on.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
This is the work of an artist in sins, one
character who clearly saw a different movie than I did.
I mean, if you can always find obscure Netflix movies
to say it's the worst of all year, I mean,
there's a lot of bad stuff out there. I thought
that there would at least hue two movies that we
heard of or had a reference point. How about the
best movies that some of us have heard of in
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twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
It's variety, though, and variety for some reason another over there,
when their crew gets together to rate or review anything
under the sun, they've got to go so far left
of center that they're back to the right. They're ridiculous
over there. It's so obscure. No one can really benefit
from the list. No one can really understand the list.
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No one knows the movies.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No one.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And I'm wondering if not only because they think they're
you know, the Hoy poloy, but it's like I think
they do it also because you can't argue with them
since you.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Haven't heard of it. That's true. That okay?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, I mean I can't tell you firsthand whether dog
Man is dog whatever or the Sacred fig.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yes, was I planning to watch that? No?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Exactly would I have watched it because it was on
someone's list?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Are we encouraged to take their criticisms and their likes
and dislikes to heart. No, I don't know what they
get out of it, other than free airtime on our
show all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I don't know what they get out true, it's just
clickbait from hacks. I've never done top ten lists. And
by the way, that last one. Lucasan is a terrific director.
He's the one who did Leon The Professional.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Was just gonna down.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah, and some really good stuff of him Nikita, tons
and tons of terrific action movies.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
But sure, man, even he can excrete out a code
broun yeoah, everybody can, even Martin scorre Ses.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Don't start with me on that.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
You're just trying to pick something now, Yeah I am,
I am, because you still with your underwear and everything
gallivanting around the studio.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
A little bit of a thirst trap for you, there was.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I'm surprised that The scar Sci Killers of the Flower
Moon wasn't on any list.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Too well known you can't make the list.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, I don't know why they collectively skipped over actual
movies in movie theaters that more people probably would know
than stooping to talk about their Netflix movies. Yeah, they're
like the hipsters of Top ten because yeah, you don't
know half of these.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well, sometimes you got to wonder if they're just trying
to impress each other and in the process just wind
up crawling up their own chimney.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
No, absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think it's about trying to be perceived as as
someone who's more culturally aware and.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
A finer taste when it comes to movies.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, it also seems really grossly unfair to me when
at the end of the year, they list all these
things that civilians like us have not had the chance
to see. We can't possibly see them, but it's kind
of the end of the year prestige film dump that
they all have early access to.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It's that and something else.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I would like to think that even though we don't
see all these movies, we're at least aware of them.
There's a reference point some of them. And most of
these we didn't even have a reference point where we
could say, oh, yeah, I heard of that, or I
remember yes about this person and that. No, none of that.
It's almost like there are relatives of Mark or something.
(30:19):
I wouldn't blame any of these guys as relatives.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
We need to we need to have you.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Uh the crumpled sound effect, now, oh okay, and that's
a real sound effect. It's not like I pushed the button.
I actually had to do it. That sounded thorough. If
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Kay if I O'Kelly. We're coming down to the end
of the year. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
and we have this complex relationship with Variety. They come
out with these lists the best, the worst, all time
twenty twenty four, and it reminds us that these critics
(00:31):
don't see the world as you and I do, but
they're worth discussing. The best movies of twenty twenty four
according to Variety magazine, or at least their online portal,
have come out, and they have two critics who've listed
their top ten and a difference you have listed their
bottom ten.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So we're going to get through these as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The best movies of twenty twenty four according to the
first critic, Owen Glieberman and uh uh who there's some
doozies in here. This is the best? Are we are?
We ready? Stephan? All right, here we go. Number ten,
(01:15):
The best kinds of Kindness. I have no idea what
that is.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That's the latest one from your ghosts Lanthemos, who did
the other one with I'm multitasking here. I haven't seen
it yet, but what's the one bits of badness? No no, no, no,
no no. I should be focusing on you instead of
my work. I don't know what I was thinking. Bottom
(01:47):
line is you're familiar with the title at least.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, the follow up to the big Award winner that
it was the woman who played Mary Jane in one
of those crappy Spider Man movies. Hey, Kirsten Duncetowe No no, no, no,
the other one. Uh hey, this is annoying me know. No,
well wait, emm a Stone. Yeah, but she didn't play
Mary Jane. Did she play Mary Jane? I thought she
(02:11):
played some of the other Yeah, she was Mary Jane.
And I think one of the worst worst Spider Man's
Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield. Yeah, Poor Things. It's the director
of Poor Things. Poor Things was really good, if you
say so.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Number nine best movie twenty twenty four, according to one
Variety critic, Bad Fate, Christian Nationalism's Unholy War on Democracy.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, we can just move on. Number eight.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Wha wait, is that a documentary? I have no idea. Okay,
it's a horror movie.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Number eight Baby Girl with Nicole Kidman. They're just abstract.
They have early access to a lot of stuff that
we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, check this out.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Coming in at number seven best movie at twenty twenty
four according to Variety, The People's Joker, which they list
as the real sequel to Joker after the artistic and
commercial flame out of Joker. Vera Drew in her underground
slash Midnight Slash Guerrilla Cinema Sensation, plays the maniacal Joker
(03:29):
of DC Legend, who is also an outlaw parody of
the Joker.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's number seven. Number six a completely unknown. That's the filling.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, odds of me ever seeing that are approximately in
the negative.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I might see that because I like biopics. I might
see that more, as Tawala calls them biopics.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah. Yes, Number five.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Skywalker's a love story and no, it's not Star Wars related.
It's a documentary about rooftoppers who scale the tallest skyscrapers
in the world and then climb onto the splendly curved
spires that shoot out from the tops of the buildings. Nope,
so far, I think I know one movie from this list.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You'll know number four.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Here's number four, Inside Out number two, Inside Out Too.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I haven't seen it, but the first one was great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Number three and this is Owen Glieberman of Variety's Top
ten Movies of twenty twenty four A real pain, Jesse Eisenberg.
This is so esoterical list. It's like, you get so
far out there. It's like, do you actually just watch
(04:58):
movies for enjoyment or do you watch them to inflate
your ego?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
These lists don't do anything to dispel the image of
critics as a bunch of defeats knobs.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, they're like just they're just trying to look cool
and above everyone. Because no, I hate for them to
pick something popular and known.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Right, wait till you get to number one, Oh boy,
Number two.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The Seed of the Sacred fig That trailer looks good,
but I haven't seen the movie.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
In fact, it's not even out yet.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
All right, And number one, according to Owen Glieberman Top
ten movies of twenty twenty four, Tennis Anyone, Challengers. Oh
(05:57):
my god, okay, is this can't be real? This can't
be a serious list. Did they have a picture of
Owen or Omore whatever his name is, Owen Gleieberman, didn't
he used to work for Entertainment Weekly. I don't know,
but he should hide himself. I'm just yeah, I'm just
wondering because that movie, I could tell. I didn't even
have to see the movie, but just the trailer alone,
(06:19):
for sure appeals to like tweeners, tweeners and like people,
you know, early twenties.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But it was universally panned. Yeah, because universally. I didn't
really get it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And then I watched this guy who does movie reviews,
and once it got explained, it's like this could have been.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
One episode of a show, and.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It got a lot of hype because I guess there's
some threesome action or something like that, a lot of
heavy petting and kissing. There's a yeah, there's some weird stuff.
It's it was just they were just trying to be weird,
all right. When we come back, we'll come up with
Peter de Broog's Top ten of twenty twenty four. A variety,
the Brouges, the Bruh Dabars, one of the two Cell Dabars.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
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Speaker 2 (07:10):
We're talking about the best movies of twenty twenty four
according to Variety magazine, and they have two critics who
did the best of twenty twenty four and another two
critics who did the worst of twenty twenty four. This
is now Peter Debrug's I'm probably mispronouncing that Peter Debrug's
top ten for twenty twenty four. And I'll rely on
(07:33):
Mark Ronner to know what any of these movies are.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Well, you know, one thing that we've got going on
here is that they save a lot of the what
they expect to be the award winners for the tail
end of the year, so they'll be fresh in everybody's minds.
So a lot of us haven't seen these or most
of these.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Coming in at number ten, the Counts of Monte Cristo
case in point. Didn't even know that that existed.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You do now? Number nine.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
The Room next Door starring Julianne Moore and Tilda Swinton.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh that's pedro on Motivar, isn't it correct? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, see, I know you serve some purpose, but again,
haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Not available. Number eight Green Border sequel to The Green
Book perhaps or Behind the Green Door.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'll take that one, Yeah, you have to be a
certain agent to give that one.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Number seven them f E M M E. Nope, the best.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of twenty twenty four. We can't even get a movie
that we've all heard of. All of us have heard of.
Number six The best movies of twenty twenty four, according
to one Variety critic.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Edward Sebastian stan ring A Bell. No, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Number five, Now you've lost me. Dune Part two. No, no, no, no.
Don't you dare try to co sign and agree with this.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
No, I wouldn't because I cut my losses after the
first one. I mean, after taking three sittings to get
through the first one.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
No way. Number four.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Anora, Okay, that one I have heard of and I've
been trying to get to see, and that's got some
good buzz.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Now number three you might take issue with Mark because
I know you've seen it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Here we go the bike Riders. That's not bad.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I wouldn't say it's one of the years best, though,
you've gotta they need to get out more, I guess,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Number two it made both lists.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
The Seed of the Sacred fig.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It okay, Look they're so far out there is really
hard to take them seriously, that they're actual film critics
and not just someone who's clout chasing for some sort
of film credibility. Yeah, and number one according to one
critic of Variety, as far as the best movie of
(11:04):
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
What's this guy's name again? What's his name? Peter de Bruges.
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Inside Out too, one of the biggest movies of the year.
It doesn't really fit with the others, now, does it.
It doesn't seem like that will be the same person.
As far as they're likes and dislikes, and they are aesthetics,
what they find pleasing in a movie, It doesn't seem
like that that would be from the same person. But yes,
that's what it is. Yes, Peter and Owen critics forever
(11:46):
sound like a couple of really relatable dudes, don't they
have to do?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Owen Glieberman and Peter de Bruges. Why isn't the substance
on either of these lists? Come on? Nope, Well, maybe
it's on the worst movies of twenty twenty four. Don't impassive?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Bla, No, no, no, no, Actually, Wayne was asking me about
the substance this morning. I hadn't seen it because I'm
not too big on horror, but I said that you
thought very highly of it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Also, it was a movie that played in theaters that
human beings are actually able to see, unlike nearly every
title you just read.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And as far as the worst movies, will save this
for next segment. They only have a list of five,
these same critics five of the worst films for twenty
twenty four, And with any luck, there'll probably be movies
that we like or think more highly of than most people.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well, if Craven's not on that list, it is completely irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm looking at it and no, but there is a
movie or two that we probably are in agreement on.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Probably What did you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Say the Sebastian Stan movie was Oh, you asked me
to go back in the pile Edward.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Wasn't it? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It doesn't seem to be on here. You mean it
doesn't exist. Well, I looked it up. I tried to
put Edward. It just gives me Edward Norton, and then
I looked up Sebastian Stan and it doesn't have it.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
So I don't know. Are you saying I made it up. No,
you're saying, I lie. Maybe it's a start film. I
don't know. I have to find it. Now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You read a phony list generated by an age that
that just shows how much they're trying to be cool
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I think, I'm trying to find where it is. Okay,
it's not on that list. Inside out see the Sacred
Bike Riders an ra Dune, A different Man, Different Man.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh okay, Yeah, that's there, and the title character is Edward.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh there we go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
An aspiring actor undergoes a radical medical procedure to drastically
transform his appearance, but his new dream face quickly turns
into that a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That actually did look pretty interesting, But yeah, I don't know.
Is that a takeoff on Twilight Zone?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
No, it looks like one of the actors actually had
I think neurofibermatosis or something.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
In real life. It doesn't sound all that interesting, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's more about, like, I guess the way to describe
it would be like self esteem issues, because yeah, he
gets that surgery, but everyone sees him as like the
more attractive person. He still sees himself the same way.
So it's that type of thing. But it looked kind
of interesting. I mean, it caught my eye, but I
who knows if it's the best. Oh, I can say
(14:36):
it's probably not the best. You know, I haven't seen it,
and I'm willing to wager money it's not the best
or amongst the ten best.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And I think Mark would even agree with me on that.
I had not planned to see that one. It looked
really unappealing to me. I'm not one of those critics
I never have been who feels like I need to
see absolutely every single thing that comes out. Also, my
my tastes are a lot more mainstream, and a lot
of these guys, I mean, you'll never hear one of
these guys going to town on a horror film or
(15:05):
or an action film, like I'm still pissed at the
second Christopher Nolan Batman movie didn't win an Oscar.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, when you get when we get back and we
talk about the worst movies of twenty twenty four, according
to these same two critics, they get a little more mainstream,
not a lot, but a little bit more, and you're
gonna be even more INFURIATD boy, it's.
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We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and at the
top of the hour. We started with the best movies
of twenty twenty four and this is according to Variety Magazine,
who we often are at odds with. They have two
film critics who gave us their lists of both the
best and worst of what Hollywood had to offer in
twenty twenty four. We did the best, and now we're
(16:04):
going to give you their worst, or what they felt
is the worst. Critic by critic, this is Owen Glieberman's
five worst films.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
They didn't give us a full list, just five. Any predictions.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
We've waited through so many Code Browns this year, it's
hard to think of just one.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You would think that some there's some easy targets to
place on this list, right, I mean, I mentioned Craven.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Did Madame web come out this year or last year?
Just last year? I think so. I think so. I
think Madam webbs last year. I couldn't swear that it
was this year.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
It wasn't on their list last year, and we'll see
if Craven's on their list this year, coming in at
number five. As far as the five worst movies of
twenty twenty four according to Owen Glieberman, Lisa Frankenstein, I
(17:00):
didn't see that, and nor will you.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
No.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Number four The End starring Michael Shannon and Tilda Swinton.
Crickets again.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, this is going to raise some eyebrows when I
tell you what number three is.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Reagan, Oh, the Dennis Quaid Reagan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now, I've heard vary and wide opinions of the movie,
but I didn't hear that it was one of the
worst of the year. Fell short for a lot of people,
but it wasn't one of the worst. And number two,
and this is according to Owen Glieberman's five worst Films
of Variety for twenty twenty four. Rumors are U M
(18:04):
O U R S. Okay, So their worst are just
as obscure as their best. Yeah, yeah, there have always
been critical darlings. But then there's that rare category of
film directors who are treated as esthetic saints. The whimsical, hermitic, Canadian,
experimental cinophile prankster.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Just what Madam Web did come out this year? It
just came out super early. It was February fourteenth, Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
So the fact that Madam Web and Godzilla of X
Kong are not on this list already, these two should
be drummed out of the Critics Union.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
They don't really have an interest in any of the
mainstream films for the most part.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
The most part that awful joker folly of Deuce.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Beyond this, it didn't make This should be the deuce
on everyone's list because it was peered material.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It was a true number two. Liked it?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They probably did, They probably did. They probably did. Any
guesses on what's number one? It's probably a movie you've
never heard of.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That's what I say.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
There's no way to guess, to wilt any guesses, cake,
don't eat it while you're alone in the bathtub. I
don't know this type of film that these individs was like.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Here we go number one.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
If I didn't know any better, I would say that
this was probably a porno.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
And coming in at number one is the worst movie
of twenty twenty four. According to Owen, Gleiberman, a variety
pool man as as opposed to pool boy. That's not
a Porner, No, it's not, it says. Even if you're
a fan of Chris Pine, you may stare slack jawed
at this absurdist disaster of an la noir, which he directed,
(20:03):
co wrote, and stars. And he plays a frowsy, long
haired pool cleaner who sort of liked the dude, except
he's a dude whose brains are leaking out of his ears.
Pine doesn't stage scenes exactly. It's all dithering, half jokes
and wispy warped asides wrapped around a conspiracy plot that
has the same relation to Chinatown that Boxed Wine has
(20:24):
to Chateau Lafitte Roth's child. See, these are guys who
are way too wrapped up in their poetic prose to
just explain why the movie's bad in understandable, relatable, digestible terms.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
It sounds like a riff on The Big Lebowski, but
this one at least you can see. It's on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
The only thing they got right is that, yeah, he
kind of does look they kind of made him look
like the dude. Okay, that's about it. Yeah, but it
clearly wasn't on anybody's radar. You know, there are some
other movies out there which deserve equal mention. There should
have been an hon mentioned or because if madaw Web
(21:04):
came out this year, that's gotta be one of the worst.
Gotta be at the top. Look, if it's not even
number one, it's got to be two, three, four or
five put together, it's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It can't be. It can't be.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, Madam Webb, is you know, only the fifteenth worst
movie of the year.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
It couldn't be. That couldn't possibly be that Craven came
out this year. And if they can put something as
recent as the Bob Dylan film on their best films list,
then they can add Craven onto their list of the worst.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And by the way, why wasn't Civil War on any
of these best of life I was thinking that.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Look, when I saw Civil War, I said, Okay, that's
gonna be a best picture comedy. I really thought so inventive, creative,
completely new. I thought it was maybe too smart for
a lot of people, and I thought it was timely
for the time in which we live, even though it's
not about quote unquote this America like Earth two, but
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it was.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
It was a really good film, The Crow Remake that
should have been on the worst of lists. I'm just
looking through my runner reports from the year. These people
are out of touch, hacks. I dismissed them.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Hopefully they're listening. I hope they are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
When we come back, we'll get Peter Debarge's worse five
bar He doesn't even Bruce. He he's L's third cousin
or something like that. Kf S forty one five everywhere
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Speaker 2 (22:35):
Forty and before we get out of here, we're finishing
up the worst movies of twenty twenty four according to
these two critics at Variety, and they just don't make
sense to me. First, we gave you Owen Gleieberman's five
worst films and his worst film with twenty twenty four
is pool Man didn't know anything about it. Now we
(22:57):
go to Peter de Bruce slash Dubar and his five
worst films of twenty twenty four, coming in at number
five Rebel Moon Director's Cut. He's not wrong, he's not wrong,
He's wrong. The first one we can all agree with
(23:18):
h number four of the worst movies of twenty twenty
four according to Variety critic Peter de Bruges, Harold and
the Purple Crayon.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I heard that was hot trash, so two for two
for all right, number three.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm not proud, but this movie was featured on our show,
not another church movie.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I absolutely refuse to disrespect to Tyler Perry film.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No matter what. It's not a Tyler Perry film. It
was a takeoff on a Tyler Perry film. Oh that
was the one where they were clowning the topic. Okay,
well then yeah, well, then that one can be on
the list. Yeah, okay, coming in at number two of
the worst movies of twenty twenty four according to Variety
critic Peter De Bruce.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The mouse Trap, Oh.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
That's the Is that the the one we're supposed to
be the Mickey Mouse horror film?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yes? I think it was that, Yeah, yes, it is so.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I just I just remember rhy McBain, one of our
Nerdorama contributors, talking about that ONUE.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Okay, this one's available on Peacock and Pluto. I gotta
say this. So it's another like a blood and honey. Yes,
it is the type of thing.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Okay, yeah, so so he's so far, he's pretty on point.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This one's a lot better, a lot, but at least
the movies that we've heard of, all right, any guesses?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Do we get a craven at number one?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Do we get a recognizable move movie that we can
agree is horrible enough to be considered the worst movie
of twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
The odds are in her favor. He's doing better in
this one.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, on this one, but you know it's a varietal one,
so you never know. Here we go, number one, the
worst movie of twenty twenty four, according to film critic
Peter de Bruges of Variety, dog Man.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't know, never heard of it. It's weird?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Is that an animated feature? What is dog Man?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
People will spend time with these movies. While audiences are
divided about Amelia Perez's Netflix's culturally questionable celebration of a
trans cartel boss, leave it to Luke Besson to demonstrate
how such an audacious tight rope act could have turned
out much much worse, embodying the lead role of a
(26:02):
cross dressing wheelchair using antihero who can will street dogs
to do his bidding. Caleb Landry Jones is one of
the most fearless actors of this generation, but Besson's third
rate joker Rip Office ill conceived on every level, a
convoluted act of misplaced empathy in which a police psychologist
(26:23):
struggles to tame a deeply traumatized outsider who was literally
raised in a doghouse. Okay, okay, why would you even
spend time watching something like that or making it? Let's
get to the making it part. You made this film, somebody,
Luke Besson.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Luke Luke goes on.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
This is the work of an artist in sins, one
character who clearly saw a different movie than I did.
I mean, if you can always find obscure Netflix movies
to say it's the worst of all year, I mean,
there's a lot of bad stuff out there. I thought
that there would at least hue two movies that we
heard of or had a reference point. How about the
best movies that some of us have heard of in
(27:05):
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
It's variety, though, and variety for some reason another over there,
when their crew gets together to rate or review anything
under the sun, they've got to go so far left
of center that they're back to the right. They're ridiculous
over there. It's so obscure. No one can really benefit
from the list. No one can really understand the list.
(27:29):
No one knows the movies.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No one.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And I'm wondering if not only because they think they're
you know, the Hoy poloy, but it's like I think
they do it also because you can't argue with them
since you.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Haven't heard of it. That's true. That okay?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, I mean I can't tell you firsthand whether dog
Man is dog whatever or the Sacred fig.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yes, was I planning to watch that? No?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Exactly would I have watched it because it was on
someone's list?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Are we encouraged to take their criticisms and their likes
and dislikes to heart. No, I don't know what they
get out of it, other than free airtime on our
show all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I don't know what they get out true, it's just
clickbait from hacks. I've never done top ten lists. And
by the way, that last one. Lucasan is a terrific director.
He's the one who did Leon The Professional.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Was just gonna down.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah, and some really good stuff of him Nikita, tons
and tons of terrific action movies.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
But sure, man, even he can excrete out a code
broun yeoah, everybody can, even Martin scorre Ses.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Don't start with me on that.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
You're just trying to pick something now, Yeah I am,
I am, because you still with your underwear and everything
gallivanting around the studio.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
A little bit of a thirst trap for you, there was.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I'm surprised that The scar Sci Killers of the Flower
Moon wasn't on any list.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Too well known you can't make the list.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, I don't know why they collectively skipped over actual
movies in movie theaters that more people probably would know
than stooping to talk about their Netflix movies. Yeah, they're
like the hipsters of Top ten because yeah, you don't
know half of these.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well, sometimes you got to wonder if they're just trying
to impress each other and in the process just wind
up crawling up their own chimney.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
No, absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think it's about trying to be perceived as as
someone who's more culturally aware and.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
A finer taste when it comes to movies.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, it also seems really grossly unfair to me when
at the end of the year, they list all these
things that civilians like us have not had the chance
to see. We can't possibly see them, but it's kind
of the end of the year prestige film dump that
they all have early access to.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It's that and something else.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I would like to think that even though we don't
see all these movies, we're at least aware of them.
There's a reference point some of them. And most of
these we didn't even have a reference point where we
could say, oh, yeah, I heard of that, or I
remember yes about this person and that. No, none of that.
It's almost like there are relatives of Mark or something.
(30:19):
I wouldn't blame any of these guys as relatives.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
We need to we need to have you.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Uh the crumpled sound effect, now, oh okay, and that's
a real sound effect. It's not like I pushed the button.
I actually had to do it. That sounded thorough. If
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