April 26, 2025 • 29 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the frustration over out of control ‘tipping’ practices AND the reasons behind fast food chain ‘Jack in the Box’ announcing the closure of close to 200 locations… PLUS – The Rahner Report has a review of the hit Disney+ Star Wars series “Andor: Season 2” AND a heartfelt plea to help support the GoFundMe campaign for writer, screenwriter, and director Donald F. Glut (Land of the Lost, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends, DuckTales, G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero and many more) in overcoming serious financial loss caused by identity theft - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Can'f I Mokelly. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and also YouTube.
I just want you to take a look at the
YouTube screen. If you want to advertise on this show,
be a part of the YouTube feed and have your
business featured. Just reach out to us at Later with
mo Kelly at gmail dot com. Maybe you want to
have your business highlighted Later with Mokelly at gmail dot com.
(00:37):
That's how you can do that. If you don't remember that,
we'll be posting it again later in the show. I
cannot get used to this new tipping phenomenon, and I
call it a phenomenon. It's nice though when I open
up the Wall Street Journal, well I don't open up anymore,
but now like log on to the website. It's nice, though,
(00:59):
to be able to log on to the Wall Street
Journal and find that I'm not alone in this. Wall
Street Journal had a pole and more than one thousand
readers responded, showing that Americans, inclusive of me, are tipping
less than they have in years now. I wouldn't say
I tipped less than before. I am less tolerant of
(01:22):
the tipping craze than ever before.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
According to the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Some vented over being asked to tip for transactions as
basic as fetching bottled water from a cooler.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Others balked at service charges creeping into the fine print
of their restaurant checks. Now that's the problem too, and
several wished America would follow other countries and include service
in meal prices. There are a number of things to
unpack there, tipping, at least, how the classical conception is
(01:55):
specifically for the worker, the server, the person who was
bringing you your food and tending to you as a patron. Restaurants,
especially during the pandemic and post pandemic, got into what
I would call this habit of adding these service fees.
Sometimes they were explicit, they were at the bottom of
the menu or at the bottom of your bill. Sometimes
(02:18):
they weren't there at all, and if you weren't paying attention,
you basically were getting robbed on a small level. And
there's been some legislation to push back against that here
in California. But it's not all the same thing, and
there is the argument that, hey, why don't you pay your.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Workers a living wage?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Do not leave it to me, the customer, to close
the gap or somehow bridge that gap because you, as
an owner are too cheap. And restaurant owners will say, hey,
I don't have those types of margins. Okay, fine, but
it's not and then incumbent upon me, I would rather
you just put it into the price of the meal,
and then I know exactly what I'm dealing with as
(02:58):
opposed to being tipsh gamed. If I do eat out
almost all the time. Now, when I get that bill,
it starts at eighteen percent. Starts that's the expectation, and
that's not that's not assuming that there's some.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sort of gratuity already put in.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
There are a couple of places I went, I'm not
gonna call them by name, I'm really not, which had
an eighteen percent gratuity already calculated, and then they had
an extra line for a tip. What's the point having
the mandatory gratuity if you're also going to ask for
a tip.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
They're hoping you don't pay attention. Well, that's what comes out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
The only thing that the only one that makes sense
is when you have like a group of like fourteen people.
I understand that, but what you're talking about is just ridiculous. Yeah,
I don't like. For example, there is this nice place
I go to, the Dilommo Mall in Torrents. It's and
I'm want to call it out by name because they're
semi conscious of it. Sarku is a Japanese restaurant in
(03:59):
the food court. Love their chicken KARAOKEI absolutely love it.
But they also are guilty of turning around the screen.
You know, you make your order, I get my chicken
karaokee or I get my sushi, and then they say, Okay,
this screen is gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Are you're talking about the screen of shame? The screen
of shame? They look away and they hang their head down. Yeah,
like they know they know it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And I'm not going to blame the person who's behind
the counter because I'm quite sure he or she is
being uh, they're doing it as they're told. That's like, yeah,
because that's like when people get mad at the checkers
at like a Vaughan's or something for the price of fruit.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's like they didn't choose that right.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And the distinction I'm gonna make is That's different from
going to a fast food place and some employee has
taken upon him or herself to put out a tip
jar because they think they deserve a tip, as opposed
to an establublishment where they're providing a service and they're
(05:03):
also then offer you the chance to give a tip,
and that's obviously coming from the owner, not someone who's
working the register.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, you can ignore the tip jar a lot easier
than you can the screen of shame. I'm getting good
at it. I'm getting real good at it now.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I used to have a rule that if I were
to get something to go, I was adamant, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
All you did was hand me my food in a bag.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, I need to know something or because I've been
struggling with this, what is the appropriate tip to pick
up an order when somebody hands you a bag, Like, say,
there's a place we go pretty often, and I'm not
going to call them out because I don't know all
the particulars, But what am I What is it worth
to say, oh, here you go and pick up a
bag and hand it to you, or just point to
(05:48):
the bag and say your bag's right there. Let's say
your orders like thirty bucks, what do you tip nothing?
Do you tip ten percent?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You tip?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You certainly don't tip twenty percent, because that's what you
would be tip for somebody who served you at a table.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, It's a great question. I've wrestled with it for years.
This is my rule for me and me only prior
to the pandemic. I did not tip for to go orders.
During and sense the pandemic, I tipped for to go orders,
not because I felt that that person or establishment earned it.
It's just because I don't want I'm basically being tip shamed.
(06:25):
So that's the only reason I really do it, because
I can't intellectually justify a tip when there's no service,
well just providing food.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
They remember when you stiff them too.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
As a former bartender, I have a crystal clear four
K memory of everybody who stiffed me on tips when
I serve them drinks.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I don't think the younger generation understands these distinctions.
It's just a matter of, oh, this person doesn't tip.
And there are other things that I worry about, And
let me just be very very honest here. I do
worry about the stereotype of black people supposedly not tipping,
and I don't want to add to that stereotype. And also,
I'm a semi public figure. I was talking about being
(07:08):
in Gaetano's last week, having a dinner, not even thinking
about anything work related, mind to my business. In the
way that Vanessa and Alfredo may have recognized me, I'm
sure a bartender or someone else may recognize me, maybe
not say anything, But I don't want to be that
guy that they think of as not being a tipper.
(07:29):
So I do tip, whether I agree with it or not.
I don't like the shaming part of it from a
society sense, but I'm going to tip. You're not going
to see anything which is going to show with Moe
Kelly not having tipped.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Now, you know when people whispering, oh yeah, that KFI guy,
he's a real tight ass.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah that's the word. No, I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't want that because I see too many stories
where they do.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Crucify folks for not tipping.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I have heard of celebrities that, like, not necessarily a list,
but they're pretty high up there and they'll be like, yeah,
I don't want to be known as the guy or
the girl who doesn't tip, so they.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Make sure to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, and I'm about the person's going to write out
some five hundred dollars tip because I'm just trying to
you know, Yeah, right, all right?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
What about?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
What about if you pick up food from a food truck,
they make it there, they hand it to you through
the window.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What do you leave them? You probably leave nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It depends because the food trucks now are so sophisticated.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They do have that screen of shame. Yes, do not.
So it depends.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Now if it's a cash based food truck, they might
have the change of whatever that last dollar is.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Well, okay, I always pay my card, and and they're
a little feist here. They they'll lock eyes with you
like you're in the yard at prison. You know, it depends.
Am I going to use that food truck again? Or
is it just a chance meeting? You're gonna use it again,
and you're running the risk that they're gonna give you
the special if they see that you stiff them.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And it doesn't help that they're there. They look down
on you, so they're like literally lording over you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, all of.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That matters, But the whole tipping culture has changed where
It's become an expectation as opposed to something to work
for or aspire to and earn. I always tell people
if I don't tip you, that means you've done something less.
I have to be able to hold something back for
(09:22):
less than exemplary service. I have to be able to
say that was less than the standard, it was substandard.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
What does somebody have to do for you to play
hardball like that? It would have to be something overtly disrespectful.
I'll give you a perfect example.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I went to a restaurant and I'll tell you off air,
and I'm with my wife and we're standing in I'll say,
like the foyer, you know you're waiting to be seated. Okay,
it's a restaurant, right, people come to the register and go,
come and go.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Just standing there and I'm waiting if.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Someone going to greet us? Is someone going to seat us?
And then finally a woman came to the front and said, Hi,
can we help you? Yeah you can.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's a damn restaurant. What do you think we're here for?
How about giving us a freaking seat. At this point,
my wife puts her hand on my shoulder because she
sees I'm getting ready to go there. What would there
consist of?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh, I'm probably making a scene and walking out because
at that point in my mind, I'm justified in my response.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Huh, they've earned that verbal ass whooping.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
So you're gonna sit there through the whole meal now
knowing that you're not going to tip them at the end. Absolutely,
why not like that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
But for me, I have to.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Be able to retain some level of control. Patty Crocker,
Absolutely no. I told you I'm petty that way too.
I remember somebody when I was a bartender in Indiana
taking back the quarter change after he bought a beer,
and I to this day I want to fly back
to Indiana and give that person a humiliating beating or
maybe a rotter.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's later with mo Kelly CAF.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
and YouTube, and I'm looking at the YouTube chat. We're
having tens of people more each segment joined the show
because they know the party is getting wild, especially in
the chat. So join the party on YouTube at mister
mo Kelly. You'll see the live link. You'll see the
dozens of people in the chat making all sorts of remarks.
(11:23):
We have Carnesia managing the chat telling all my business
about what I'm doing in the studio right now.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So you're laughing, Stepan, but it's true. It's true. So
know that it's it's real. What is going on.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So when we come back, we'll give you a Jack
in the Box update and more and the RNA report
at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Camphi, mo Kelly, It's Later with mo Kelly on a
fabulous Friday. We're live everywhere on the iHeart radio app
and YouTube. We are having more more people join the
YouTube chat. So and according to Carnesia, who's managing it,
they are about four or five different conversations going.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They need it right.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They're getting into it, talking about tipping, talking about George
Santos draft, the draft, door Sanders, all of that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
There's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's almost like you're at a Starbucks of sorts and
you have the group of people there talking about this
and another group of people talking about that, but they're
all there for one reason to drink their coffee what
have you.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
So it's a nice community hangout.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I'm going to call it for right now, so go
ahead and join us on YouTube. You can watch the show,
you can participate in the chat, and you can also
see the game coming up at the top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Name that movie called Classic.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
There's no theme tonight, but there is a boatload of
prizes that we're giving away. Well, not necessary boatload, more
like a brig closet, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, you can go ahead and share that we got
we got some more prizes.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You've got tote bags, we have Cafe T shirts, got
a lad with mo Kelly T shirt and some other stuff,
some other stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Got bugs later with mo Kelly bugs all good stuff
or colored T shirts.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They are white with the gold Cafe emblem emblazoned across
the heart area.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Too much good. George Santos would look terrific in one
of those. Just keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I could say something, but it would have been very,
very inappropriate. It's been implied jail house humor. It can
go either way. Yes, Jack in a Box. Jack in
a Box I actually do like and have liked, even
though it's not.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The fast food of choice of a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And that maybe because there's a Jack in a Box
close to my house growing up, I found myself going
to Jack in the Box. In my mind, it was
just as good, sometimes better than McDonald's. I did notice
over the years that there were is seemingly as many
Jack in the Box locations as there were McDonald's. Now,
you think, why would they always be in the same location. Well,
that's marketing, you know. If one company's done the marketing
(14:09):
as far as that being a good fast food location,
you will see other comparable restaurants put a location right
there as well. So you'll see McDonald's on one side
of street and Windy's on another side, or maybe Jack
in a Box.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's how it all works. But the point I'm just
going to make is there were.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Too many Jack in a Box locations, it seems, and
they were expanding far too fast. And what has been
described as a surprise move, Jack in a Box has
announced this week it would be closing as many as
two hundred two hundred of its locations.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Oh God, please no.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But there's more more bad news.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
They might even be selling Del Taco and I remember
they just bought Del Taco I don't know, maybe three
four years ago. It seems that the company has more
than three hundred million dollars in debt, and this is
a way that they can get some more or cash
on hand and pay down that debt. And the Jack
in the Box has had a very up and down history.
(15:07):
They had struggles in the late nineteen seventies. They had
the scandal or perceived scandal I was talking about with
Mark Roner in the first segment. If you're not old
enough to remember, back in nineteen eighty one, Jack in
the Box was thought to be accused of distributing burgers
(15:28):
with horse and or kangaroo meat in it. It was
part urban legend, part truth because Jack in the Box
did have to acknowledge that beef was sent to one
of its locations and it contained horse meat in it.
Jack in the Box maintained that it never actually made
(15:50):
it to a real Jack in the Box location and
served as food. Of course, I always assume they're not
telling the truth, but that was back in nineteen and
the reason why it was so believable because back in
nineteen eighty one, Jack in the Box was owned by
Ralston Parita Company, actual makers of pet food and uses
(16:11):
of kangaroo, horse meat, whoever, whatever else. Back then so
there was a distinct possibility that it was actually being
served to the general public. That was nineteen eighty one,
and then from there. I don't know if you, I know, Stephan,
you wouldn't remember this. You weren't born yet. I think
it was like in the late nineteen eighties or so,
they blew up Jack, because Jack in the Box used
(16:34):
to be just a physical fixture.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's like a Jack in the box. They did a whole.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Ad campaign where they actually blew up as in with explosives.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Then that paved the way for their resurgence when they
had the Jack that we all know, the funny commercials,
the big Ass head and that I thought was doing well.
But maybe Jack in the Box was expanding too fast.
But there's one thing I do really do like about
Jack in the Box. They serve breakfast all day. Yes,
(17:05):
it's one of the few places where I know, I
don't need to look at my watch, I don't need
to look at the day.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You just pull up up.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And that's right, because sometimes especially on the nights, when
you're you know, a little inebriated, you get the I
get the dinner, and then I get the breakfast for
the next day.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You do that too, Yeah, you got two meals at once. Yeah,
it's best.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And if I'm coming home late, and there's sometimes when
I'm leaving here. I haven't done it in a long
time because I've changed my diet, but I would leave here,
go home. On the way home, hit a Jack in
the box, get food for the night, then food for
the morning.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yes. The only thing I did appreciate. Don't laugh at
me like that carnation.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I did appreciate Jack in the box because they had
all day breakfast. McDonald's did it for a while, like
during the pandemic, and then they pulled it back. They
just yeah, they just stopped. I don't know why they
have a sense of proprie Noh, no, know, I look
down at it. You don't have all day breakfast. I
should be able to eat whatever I want, whenever I want,
and that's breakfast.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I don't care for a three day afternoon to three
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
We live in a society. No we don't, no, no, no, no,
but see the cool rules. It's just such a nice
little treat for yourself when you wake up the next day.
I have a pretty extensive breakfast. Yeah, they do their
burrito is actually pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The burritos. They have all sorts of sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Got like a double sausage sandwich and breakfast croissant French
toast sticks.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
They ain't had this breakfast platter with eggs. Oh yeah,
well but after breakfast time. No, no, no, no, no, no, okaya,
if you tried the tacos, check in the No. I
don't eat the actual stuff that they sell.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
No, I don't eat.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't eat actually like burgers from Chacolate box. I
only get breakfast with Oh you only get breakfast only. No,
I get the dinner and then I'll get Like to
Mark's point, I don't have it that night. I have
it the next morning, so I'll have it ready to go.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Get both. I'm gonna eat it two in the morning.
They eat eleven in the morning. Exactly. We got to
get to the water report.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But I have this question for the chat on our YouTube,
So goy that go to at mispher mo Kelly on YouTube,
get the live show and you'll see the interactive chat
for the chat. Do you eat breakfast for dinner? No,
we know you don't. The answer for our listen is now,
I grew up on breakfast for dinner. That was always
a treat. My father would make pancakes for dinner on
(19:17):
a given night. And then I realized, Oh, my mother's
working late, so that's about the only thing you could fix.
So we had breakfast to dinner. Is it okay to
eat breakfast for dinner? That's what we want to know
from the chat. It's Later with mo Kelly. I am
six forty. We have The Runner Report coming up next
on KFI and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Mark talks abouts about pop culture, ron and Report with
Mark Ronner.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Canf I YouTube Later with Moke Kelly, Mark Runner Take
it Away. The second and final season of and Or
has hit Disney Plus, and I believe I saw ABC
running at least the first episode open wide for some trailer.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
I came with you to be part of something the
Empire cannot wind. It's a different kind of mission. If
(20:37):
it goes some big of flames, it will burn very rightly.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
But if I'm giving up everything I want to win,
we have to. We must stand together, but we will
be crushed.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Resistances sign it's a weapon. They're building a weapon.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
They're non still a come for us.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
All the evolution is not for the same.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You're right here and you're ready to fight.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
There's a future here for those who dare welcome to
the rebellion.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
So we got to talk about and or season two,
but no, upfront. I don't absolutely love all Star Wars.
I think maybe half of what's out there is watchable.
And before the market was flooded with more Star Wars
movies and shows and cartoons, it got by on sheer
goodwill without a decent movie since nineteen eighty, which was
the Empire Strikes Back. The Prequels were awful, The Three
Abrams movies were awful, The Mandalorian and Rogue One were
(21:54):
great fun and nerds can debate this stuff instead of
experiencing sexual intimacy all they want. But over and above
all that, I don't love Star Wars because I like
science fiction, and Star Wars infantalized science fiction from the
minute it came out in nineteen seventy seven, and for
decades afterwards. Something becomes a hit and everyone wants to
replicate it. Star Wars brought everything to the level of
what children would sit through, Starting with noises and dogfights
(22:17):
in space, Darth Vader being the most on the nose,
Snightly Whiplash, name having villain ever, and the list goes on,
And if you want to argue about Darth Vader, having
a bad guy with that name is about as remedial
as having a home record character named Sluttie mccorrington. But
one of the good things about having a glut of
Star Wars stuff to watch is that there's now a
(22:37):
little something out there for everyone. And and or well
it's not and Or part of the Conjunction Junction cartoon
and Conjunction.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Junction spam, and that you pretty far.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
My god, I love Jack Sheldon's voice. Yes, and but
or I mean and or no, Bud. It's a smart
show for people not completely stuck in their ten year
old selves, and it's got a lot going on. Here's
the deal. Rogue one came out nine years ago, and
it was a prequel to the first Star Wars movie
about how the Rebels got the plans to the Death
Star that allowed Luke to blow it up by shooting
it up the tailpipe, which itself is kind of like
(23:16):
taking down an aircraft carrier with a piece of gum
but whatever, and Rogue one was based on a reference
from Star Wars in the opening crawl. During the battle,
rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the Death Star that's in the crawl at
the beginning. I refuse to call the first movie a
new Hope, just like I refuse to call the Gulf
(23:37):
of Mexico the Gulf of America. It's always going to
be Star Wars. And even though I'm against the strip
mining of every reference and turning it into its own movie,
and I can rest my case with the awful solo movie,
Rogue one was a real shot in the arm lots
of fun. And Or is a prequel to Rogue One,
which was a prequel. It follows the rebel Cassian Andor,
(23:57):
who we know is going to die. In Rogue One,
he becomes part of the rebellion. Diego Luna plays and Or,
and despite the fact that the show's named and Or,
he's just part of an ensemble of characters and storylines,
and sometimes he's the least interesting thing about the show.
Stellan Scarsgard plays a character named Luthan who's a sort
of a spy and spy handler. He's always been a heavyweight,
and it's really cool to see somebody with his chops
(24:18):
do a show like this. It's sort of like seeing
Richard Burton pop up in an old Batman episode. And No,
that didn't really happen. Christopher Lee.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Sure. Yeah. Listen to this clip from the first season
when somebody Luthen is sending out on a mission has
the nerve to ask him what he's sacrificed.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And what do you sacrifice?
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Calm kind in this kind of shit love, I'll give
it up, Walt I said inner peace. I made my
mind a sunless space. I share my dreams with ghosts.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
I wake up every day to an equation I wrote
fifteen years ago, for which there's only one conclusion.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
Ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight. They
set me on a path from which there's no escape.
I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating
the cost, And by the time I look down.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
There's no longer any ground beneath my feet. What is
my sacrifice?
Speaker 10 (25:37):
I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to
defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's future.
I burn my life to make a sunrise that I
know I'll never see. The eagle that started this fight
will never have a.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Mirror, or an aud yes or the light of gratitudes.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
So what do I sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Everything? Jesus sir, this is a Wendy's drive through. I've
just asked a basic question.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
When I say, and Or himself is sometimes the least
interesting part of the show. He spends in the first
two episode of this new season getting his ass captured
and doing nothing. The intrigue has taking place elsewhere, particularly
on a different planet, where man Mathma, not a Kaiju,
is getting over getting her She's running her daughter's wedding
and dealing with dangerous rebel finance stuff that could get
(26:31):
her killed. And there's a scene of her getting so
spooked by the danger she's in that she gets high
as f and is dancing by herself at the wedding.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Pretty inspired.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Tony Gilroy is the creator and head writer of and Or,
and he's one of those guys whose name means you
watch whatever he's got out. Along with co writing Rogue One,
he wrote some of the Boorn Movies. Directed one of
them and also one of my favorite movies of this century.
Michael Clayton in two thousand and seven. I've only seen
the first three episodes that are available of and Or,
but I'm in for the duration and critics who have
seen the whole season and have high praise for where
(27:01):
things go. The elephant in the room that people are
buzzing about is that this is Star Wars with some
seriously edgier content, which includes the first Star Wars attempted
rape of a character, at least I think it's the first.
I never trusted Jar Jar kind of a creep.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent, and
I get out of here. No, no, missy, miss.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
E won't be necessary.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Well, and if there's more than that, if you've got
the nerve to google, but beware. Okay, I'm not going
to spoil any more than that by saying who or
what are under what circumstances this happens? But it's appropriate.
It fits with what we know about occupying empires in
the real world. It fits with Russians in Ukraine, it
fits with Nazis. We're always going to have the Ewoks,
(27:46):
but this is more complex material about resistance against a
tyrannical empire, how people become involved in it, the cost
of it, and also how people within the empire are
seduced by power and do things they know are evil.
So I'm all in frand or and the Rise of
Skywalker can still suck it. One quick PostScript here. You
may not know the name Donald F. Glute, but he's
(28:07):
best known for being a part of the Star Wars
family as the author of the Empire strikes Back novelization
and a million other things from Shazam and Land of
the Loss on tv X men, tons of comics. I
don't know Don real well, but we've been at some
signings together conventions we've talked. Earlier this month, Don Glute
posted that he'd been the victim of identity theft and
(28:28):
was totally cleaned out. He started to go fund me,
and it's worth your time checking it out and deciding
if you want to lend a hand. I believe Don's
in his early eighties, which really isn't the ideal time
to start from scratch. See what you think. You can
read the details by searching for gofund me and support
Donald F. Glute glut in overcoming financial loss. That should
(28:49):
be on your screen right now if you're watching online,
enigmatically titled I know I've been scanned before myself, and
it sucks. These people can be quite clever, as clever
as they are ruthless. A lot of us are struggling
or preparing to struggle right now. The terror for session
seems pretty much guaranteed, and the student alone people will
be paying me a visit to take out my kneecaps
very soon. I know Don Glute will appreciate any help
(29:11):
you feel like giving. And then sometime maybe we can
have him on the show to talk about some of
the cool stuff he's done, particularly the Spider Man cartoon
from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That's your honor report.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Further deponent Saith not mo I, Saith nothing okay, Mark.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Perfect for Achy, indecisive minds KFI is cooling Infojel quickly
relieves ignorance and leaves a mifty fresh scent.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Ki and kost HD two Los Angeles
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Can'f I Mokelly. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and also YouTube.
I just want you to take a look at the
YouTube screen. If you want to advertise on this show,
be a part of the YouTube feed and have your
business featured. Just reach out to us at Later with
mo Kelly at gmail dot com. Maybe you want to
have your business highlighted Later with Mokelly at gmail dot com.
(00:37):
That's how you can do that. If you don't remember that,
we'll be posting it again later in the show. I
cannot get used to this new tipping phenomenon, and I
call it a phenomenon. It's nice though when I open
up the Wall Street Journal, well I don't open up anymore,
but now like log on to the website. It's nice, though,
(00:59):
to be able to log on to the Wall Street
Journal and find that I'm not alone in this. Wall
Street Journal had a pole and more than one thousand
readers responded, showing that Americans, inclusive of me, are tipping
less than they have in years now. I wouldn't say
I tipped less than before. I am less tolerant of
(01:22):
the tipping craze than ever before.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
According to the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Some vented over being asked to tip for transactions as
basic as fetching bottled water from a cooler.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Others balked at service charges creeping into the fine print
of their restaurant checks. Now that's the problem too, and
several wished America would follow other countries and include service
in meal prices. There are a number of things to
unpack there, tipping, at least, how the classical conception is
(01:55):
specifically for the worker, the server, the person who was
bringing you your food and tending to you as a patron. Restaurants,
especially during the pandemic and post pandemic, got into what
I would call this habit of adding these service fees.
Sometimes they were explicit, they were at the bottom of
the menu or at the bottom of your bill. Sometimes
(02:18):
they weren't there at all, and if you weren't paying attention,
you basically were getting robbed on a small level. And
there's been some legislation to push back against that here
in California. But it's not all the same thing, and
there is the argument that, hey, why don't you pay your.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Workers a living wage?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Do not leave it to me, the customer, to close
the gap or somehow bridge that gap because you, as
an owner are too cheap. And restaurant owners will say, hey,
I don't have those types of margins. Okay, fine, but
it's not and then incumbent upon me, I would rather
you just put it into the price of the meal,
and then I know exactly what I'm dealing with as
(02:58):
opposed to being tipsh gamed. If I do eat out
almost all the time. Now, when I get that bill,
it starts at eighteen percent. Starts that's the expectation, and
that's not that's not assuming that there's some.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sort of gratuity already put in.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
There are a couple of places I went, I'm not
gonna call them by name, I'm really not, which had
an eighteen percent gratuity already calculated, and then they had
an extra line for a tip. What's the point having
the mandatory gratuity if you're also going to ask for
a tip.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
They're hoping you don't pay attention. Well, that's what comes out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
The only thing that the only one that makes sense
is when you have like a group of like fourteen people.
I understand that, but what you're talking about is just ridiculous. Yeah,
I don't like. For example, there is this nice place
I go to, the Dilommo Mall in Torrents. It's and
I'm want to call it out by name because they're
semi conscious of it. Sarku is a Japanese restaurant in
(03:59):
the food court. Love their chicken KARAOKEI absolutely love it.
But they also are guilty of turning around the screen.
You know, you make your order, I get my chicken
karaokee or I get my sushi, and then they say, Okay,
this screen is gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Are you're talking about the screen of shame? The screen
of shame? They look away and they hang their head down. Yeah,
like they know they know it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And I'm not going to blame the person who's behind
the counter because I'm quite sure he or she is
being uh, they're doing it as they're told. That's like, yeah,
because that's like when people get mad at the checkers
at like a Vaughan's or something for the price of fruit.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's like they didn't choose that right.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And the distinction I'm gonna make is That's different from
going to a fast food place and some employee has
taken upon him or herself to put out a tip
jar because they think they deserve a tip, as opposed
to an establublishment where they're providing a service and they're
(05:03):
also then offer you the chance to give a tip,
and that's obviously coming from the owner, not someone who's
working the register.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, you can ignore the tip jar a lot easier
than you can the screen of shame. I'm getting good
at it. I'm getting real good at it now.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I used to have a rule that if I were
to get something to go, I was adamant, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
All you did was hand me my food in a bag.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, I need to know something or because I've been
struggling with this, what is the appropriate tip to pick
up an order when somebody hands you a bag, Like, say,
there's a place we go pretty often, and I'm not
going to call them out because I don't know all
the particulars, But what am I What is it worth
to say, oh, here you go and pick up a
bag and hand it to you, or just point to
(05:48):
the bag and say your bag's right there. Let's say
your orders like thirty bucks, what do you tip nothing?
Do you tip ten percent?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You tip?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You certainly don't tip twenty percent, because that's what you
would be tip for somebody who served you at a table.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, It's a great question. I've wrestled with it for years.
This is my rule for me and me only prior
to the pandemic. I did not tip for to go orders.
During and sense the pandemic, I tipped for to go orders,
not because I felt that that person or establishment earned it.
It's just because I don't want I'm basically being tip shamed.
(06:25):
So that's the only reason I really do it, because
I can't intellectually justify a tip when there's no service,
well just providing food.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
They remember when you stiff them too.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
As a former bartender, I have a crystal clear four
K memory of everybody who stiffed me on tips when
I serve them drinks.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I don't think the younger generation understands these distinctions.
It's just a matter of, oh, this person doesn't tip.
And there are other things that I worry about, And
let me just be very very honest here. I do
worry about the stereotype of black people supposedly not tipping,
and I don't want to add to that stereotype. And also,
I'm a semi public figure. I was talking about being
(07:08):
in Gaetano's last week, having a dinner, not even thinking
about anything work related, mind to my business. In the
way that Vanessa and Alfredo may have recognized me, I'm
sure a bartender or someone else may recognize me, maybe
not say anything, But I don't want to be that
guy that they think of as not being a tipper.
(07:29):
So I do tip, whether I agree with it or not.
I don't like the shaming part of it from a
society sense, but I'm going to tip. You're not going
to see anything which is going to show with Moe
Kelly not having tipped.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Now, you know when people whispering, oh yeah, that KFI guy,
he's a real tight ass.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah that's the word. No, I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't want that because I see too many stories
where they do.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Crucify folks for not tipping.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I have heard of celebrities that, like, not necessarily a list,
but they're pretty high up there and they'll be like, yeah,
I don't want to be known as the guy or
the girl who doesn't tip, so they.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Make sure to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, and I'm about the person's going to write out
some five hundred dollars tip because I'm just trying to
you know, Yeah, right, all right?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
What about?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
What about if you pick up food from a food truck,
they make it there, they hand it to you through
the window.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What do you leave them? You probably leave nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It depends because the food trucks now are so sophisticated.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They do have that screen of shame. Yes, do not.
So it depends.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Now if it's a cash based food truck, they might
have the change of whatever that last dollar is.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Well, okay, I always pay my card, and and they're
a little feist here. They they'll lock eyes with you
like you're in the yard at prison. You know, it depends.
Am I going to use that food truck again? Or
is it just a chance meeting? You're gonna use it again,
and you're running the risk that they're gonna give you
the special if they see that you stiff them.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And it doesn't help that they're there. They look down
on you, so they're like literally lording over you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, all of.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That matters, But the whole tipping culture has changed where
It's become an expectation as opposed to something to work
for or aspire to and earn. I always tell people
if I don't tip you, that means you've done something less.
I have to be able to hold something back for
(09:22):
less than exemplary service. I have to be able to
say that was less than the standard, it was substandard.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
What does somebody have to do for you to play
hardball like that? It would have to be something overtly disrespectful.
I'll give you a perfect example.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I went to a restaurant and I'll tell you off air,
and I'm with my wife and we're standing in I'll say,
like the foyer, you know you're waiting to be seated. Okay,
it's a restaurant, right, people come to the register and go,
come and go.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Just standing there and I'm waiting if.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Someone going to greet us? Is someone going to seat us?
And then finally a woman came to the front and said, Hi,
can we help you? Yeah you can.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's a damn restaurant. What do you think we're here for?
How about giving us a freaking seat. At this point,
my wife puts her hand on my shoulder because she
sees I'm getting ready to go there. What would there
consist of?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh, I'm probably making a scene and walking out because
at that point in my mind, I'm justified in my response.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Huh, they've earned that verbal ass whooping.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
So you're gonna sit there through the whole meal now
knowing that you're not going to tip them at the end. Absolutely,
why not like that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
But for me, I have to.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Be able to retain some level of control. Patty Crocker,
Absolutely no. I told you I'm petty that way too.
I remember somebody when I was a bartender in Indiana
taking back the quarter change after he bought a beer,
and I to this day I want to fly back
to Indiana and give that person a humiliating beating or
maybe a rotter.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's later with mo Kelly CAF.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
and YouTube, and I'm looking at the YouTube chat. We're
having tens of people more each segment joined the show
because they know the party is getting wild, especially in
the chat. So join the party on YouTube at mister
mo Kelly. You'll see the live link. You'll see the
dozens of people in the chat making all sorts of remarks.
(11:23):
We have Carnesia managing the chat telling all my business
about what I'm doing in the studio right now.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So you're laughing, Stepan, but it's true. It's true. So
know that it's it's real. What is going on.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So when we come back, we'll give you a Jack
in the Box update and more and the RNA report
at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Camphi, mo Kelly, It's Later with mo Kelly on a
fabulous Friday. We're live everywhere on the iHeart radio app
and YouTube. We are having more more people join the
YouTube chat. So and according to Carnesia, who's managing it,
they are about four or five different conversations going.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They need it right.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They're getting into it, talking about tipping, talking about George
Santos draft, the draft, door Sanders, all of that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
There's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's almost like you're at a Starbucks of sorts and
you have the group of people there talking about this
and another group of people talking about that, but they're
all there for one reason to drink their coffee what
have you.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
So it's a nice community hangout.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I'm going to call it for right now, so go
ahead and join us on YouTube. You can watch the show,
you can participate in the chat, and you can also
see the game coming up at the top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Name that movie called Classic.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
There's no theme tonight, but there is a boatload of
prizes that we're giving away. Well, not necessary boatload, more
like a brig closet, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, you can go ahead and share that we got
we got some more prizes.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You've got tote bags, we have Cafe T shirts, got
a lad with mo Kelly T shirt and some other stuff,
some other stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Got bugs later with mo Kelly bugs all good stuff
or colored T shirts.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They are white with the gold Cafe emblem emblazoned across
the heart area.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Too much good. George Santos would look terrific in one
of those. Just keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I could say something, but it would have been very,
very inappropriate. It's been implied jail house humor. It can
go either way. Yes, Jack in a Box. Jack in
a Box I actually do like and have liked, even
though it's not.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
The fast food of choice of a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And that maybe because there's a Jack in a Box
close to my house growing up, I found myself going
to Jack in the Box. In my mind, it was
just as good, sometimes better than McDonald's. I did notice
over the years that there were is seemingly as many
Jack in the Box locations as there were McDonald's. Now,
you think, why would they always be in the same location. Well,
that's marketing, you know. If one company's done the marketing
(14:09):
as far as that being a good fast food location,
you will see other comparable restaurants put a location right
there as well. So you'll see McDonald's on one side
of street and Windy's on another side, or maybe Jack
in a Box.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's how it all works. But the point I'm just
going to make is there were.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Too many Jack in a Box locations, it seems, and
they were expanding far too fast. And what has been
described as a surprise move, Jack in a Box has
announced this week it would be closing as many as
two hundred two hundred of its locations.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Oh God, please no.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But there's more more bad news.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
They might even be selling Del Taco and I remember
they just bought Del Taco I don't know, maybe three
four years ago. It seems that the company has more
than three hundred million dollars in debt, and this is
a way that they can get some more or cash
on hand and pay down that debt. And the Jack
in the Box has had a very up and down history.
(15:07):
They had struggles in the late nineteen seventies. They had
the scandal or perceived scandal I was talking about with
Mark Roner in the first segment. If you're not old
enough to remember, back in nineteen eighty one, Jack in
the Box was thought to be accused of distributing burgers
(15:28):
with horse and or kangaroo meat in it. It was
part urban legend, part truth because Jack in the Box
did have to acknowledge that beef was sent to one
of its locations and it contained horse meat in it.
Jack in the Box maintained that it never actually made
(15:50):
it to a real Jack in the Box location and
served as food. Of course, I always assume they're not
telling the truth, but that was back in nineteen and
the reason why it was so believable because back in
nineteen eighty one, Jack in the Box was owned by
Ralston Parita Company, actual makers of pet food and uses
(16:11):
of kangaroo, horse meat, whoever, whatever else. Back then so
there was a distinct possibility that it was actually being
served to the general public. That was nineteen eighty one,
and then from there. I don't know if you, I know, Stephan,
you wouldn't remember this. You weren't born yet. I think
it was like in the late nineteen eighties or so,
they blew up Jack, because Jack in the Box used
(16:34):
to be just a physical fixture.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's like a Jack in the box. They did a whole.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Ad campaign where they actually blew up as in with explosives.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Then that paved the way for their resurgence when they
had the Jack that we all know, the funny commercials,
the big Ass head and that I thought was doing well.
But maybe Jack in the Box was expanding too fast.
But there's one thing I do really do like about
Jack in the Box. They serve breakfast all day. Yes,
(17:05):
it's one of the few places where I know, I
don't need to look at my watch, I don't need
to look at the day.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You just pull up up.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And that's right, because sometimes especially on the nights, when
you're you know, a little inebriated, you get the I
get the dinner, and then I get the breakfast for
the next day.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You do that too, Yeah, you got two meals at once. Yeah,
it's best.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And if I'm coming home late, and there's sometimes when
I'm leaving here. I haven't done it in a long
time because I've changed my diet, but I would leave here,
go home. On the way home, hit a Jack in
the box, get food for the night, then food for
the morning.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yes. The only thing I did appreciate. Don't laugh at
me like that carnation.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I did appreciate Jack in the box because they had
all day breakfast. McDonald's did it for a while, like
during the pandemic, and then they pulled it back. They
just yeah, they just stopped. I don't know why they
have a sense of proprie Noh, no, know, I look
down at it. You don't have all day breakfast. I
should be able to eat whatever I want, whenever I want,
and that's breakfast.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I don't care for a three day afternoon to three
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
We live in a society. No we don't, no, no, no, no,
but see the cool rules. It's just such a nice
little treat for yourself when you wake up the next day.
I have a pretty extensive breakfast. Yeah, they do their
burrito is actually pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The burritos. They have all sorts of sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Got like a double sausage sandwich and breakfast croissant French
toast sticks.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
They ain't had this breakfast platter with eggs. Oh yeah,
well but after breakfast time. No, no, no, no, no, no, okaya,
if you tried the tacos, check in the No. I
don't eat the actual stuff that they sell.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
No, I don't eat.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't eat actually like burgers from Chacolate box. I
only get breakfast with Oh you only get breakfast only. No,
I get the dinner and then I'll get Like to
Mark's point, I don't have it that night. I have
it the next morning, so I'll have it ready to go.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Get both. I'm gonna eat it two in the morning.
They eat eleven in the morning. Exactly. We got to
get to the water report.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But I have this question for the chat on our YouTube,
So goy that go to at mispher mo Kelly on YouTube,
get the live show and you'll see the interactive chat
for the chat. Do you eat breakfast for dinner? No,
we know you don't. The answer for our listen is now,
I grew up on breakfast for dinner. That was always
a treat. My father would make pancakes for dinner on
(19:17):
a given night. And then I realized, Oh, my mother's
working late, so that's about the only thing you could fix.
So we had breakfast to dinner. Is it okay to
eat breakfast for dinner? That's what we want to know
from the chat. It's Later with mo Kelly. I am
six forty. We have The Runner Report coming up next
on KFI and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Mark talks abouts about pop culture, ron and Report with
Mark Ronner.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Canf I YouTube Later with Moke Kelly, Mark Runner Take
it Away. The second and final season of and Or
has hit Disney Plus, and I believe I saw ABC
running at least the first episode open wide for some trailer.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
I came with you to be part of something the
Empire cannot wind. It's a different kind of mission. If
(20:37):
it goes some big of flames, it will burn very rightly.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
But if I'm giving up everything I want to win,
we have to. We must stand together, but we will
be crushed.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Resistances sign it's a weapon. They're building a weapon.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
They're non still a come for us.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
All the evolution is not for the same.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You're right here and you're ready to fight.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
There's a future here for those who dare welcome to
the rebellion.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
So we got to talk about and or season two,
but no, upfront. I don't absolutely love all Star Wars.
I think maybe half of what's out there is watchable.
And before the market was flooded with more Star Wars
movies and shows and cartoons, it got by on sheer
goodwill without a decent movie since nineteen eighty, which was
the Empire Strikes Back. The Prequels were awful, The Three
Abrams movies were awful, The Mandalorian and Rogue One were
(21:54):
great fun and nerds can debate this stuff instead of
experiencing sexual intimacy all they want. But over and above
all that, I don't love Star Wars because I like
science fiction, and Star Wars infantalized science fiction from the
minute it came out in nineteen seventy seven, and for
decades afterwards. Something becomes a hit and everyone wants to
replicate it. Star Wars brought everything to the level of
what children would sit through, Starting with noises and dogfights
(22:17):
in space, Darth Vader being the most on the nose,
Snightly Whiplash, name having villain ever, and the list goes on,
And if you want to argue about Darth Vader, having
a bad guy with that name is about as remedial
as having a home record character named Sluttie mccorrington. But
one of the good things about having a glut of
Star Wars stuff to watch is that there's now a
(22:37):
little something out there for everyone. And and or well
it's not and Or part of the Conjunction Junction cartoon
and Conjunction.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Junction spam, and that you pretty far.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
My god, I love Jack Sheldon's voice. Yes, and but
or I mean and or no, Bud. It's a smart
show for people not completely stuck in their ten year
old selves, and it's got a lot going on. Here's
the deal. Rogue one came out nine years ago, and
it was a prequel to the first Star Wars movie
about how the Rebels got the plans to the Death
Star that allowed Luke to blow it up by shooting
it up the tailpipe, which itself is kind of like
(23:16):
taking down an aircraft carrier with a piece of gum
but whatever, and Rogue one was based on a reference
from Star Wars in the opening crawl. During the battle,
rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the Death Star that's in the crawl at
the beginning. I refuse to call the first movie a
new Hope, just like I refuse to call the Gulf
(23:37):
of Mexico the Gulf of America. It's always going to
be Star Wars. And even though I'm against the strip
mining of every reference and turning it into its own movie,
and I can rest my case with the awful solo movie,
Rogue one was a real shot in the arm lots
of fun. And Or is a prequel to Rogue One,
which was a prequel. It follows the rebel Cassian Andor,
(23:57):
who we know is going to die. In Rogue One,
he becomes part of the rebellion. Diego Luna plays and Or,
and despite the fact that the show's named and Or,
he's just part of an ensemble of characters and storylines,
and sometimes he's the least interesting thing about the show.
Stellan Scarsgard plays a character named Luthan who's a sort
of a spy and spy handler. He's always been a heavyweight,
and it's really cool to see somebody with his chops
(24:18):
do a show like this. It's sort of like seeing
Richard Burton pop up in an old Batman episode. And No,
that didn't really happen. Christopher Lee.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Sure. Yeah. Listen to this clip from the first season
when somebody Luthen is sending out on a mission has
the nerve to ask him what he's sacrificed.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And what do you sacrifice?
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Calm kind in this kind of shit love, I'll give
it up, Walt I said inner peace. I made my
mind a sunless space. I share my dreams with ghosts.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
I wake up every day to an equation I wrote
fifteen years ago, for which there's only one conclusion.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
Ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight. They
set me on a path from which there's no escape.
I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating
the cost, And by the time I look down.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
There's no longer any ground beneath my feet. What is
my sacrifice?
Speaker 10 (25:37):
I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to
defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's future.
I burn my life to make a sunrise that I
know I'll never see. The eagle that started this fight
will never have a.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Mirror, or an aud yes or the light of gratitudes.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
So what do I sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Everything? Jesus sir, this is a Wendy's drive through. I've
just asked a basic question.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
When I say, and Or himself is sometimes the least
interesting part of the show. He spends in the first
two episode of this new season getting his ass captured
and doing nothing. The intrigue has taking place elsewhere, particularly
on a different planet, where man Mathma, not a Kaiju,
is getting over getting her She's running her daughter's wedding
and dealing with dangerous rebel finance stuff that could get
(26:31):
her killed. And there's a scene of her getting so
spooked by the danger she's in that she gets high
as f and is dancing by herself at the wedding.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Pretty inspired.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Tony Gilroy is the creator and head writer of and Or,
and he's one of those guys whose name means you
watch whatever he's got out. Along with co writing Rogue One,
he wrote some of the Boorn Movies. Directed one of
them and also one of my favorite movies of this century.
Michael Clayton in two thousand and seven. I've only seen
the first three episodes that are available of and Or,
but I'm in for the duration and critics who have
seen the whole season and have high praise for where
(27:01):
things go. The elephant in the room that people are
buzzing about is that this is Star Wars with some
seriously edgier content, which includes the first Star Wars attempted
rape of a character, at least I think it's the first.
I never trusted Jar Jar kind of a creep.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent, and
I get out of here. No, no, missy, miss.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
E won't be necessary.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Well, and if there's more than that, if you've got
the nerve to google, but beware. Okay, I'm not going
to spoil any more than that by saying who or
what are under what circumstances this happens? But it's appropriate.
It fits with what we know about occupying empires in
the real world. It fits with Russians in Ukraine, it
fits with Nazis. We're always going to have the Ewoks,
(27:46):
but this is more complex material about resistance against a
tyrannical empire, how people become involved in it, the cost
of it, and also how people within the empire are
seduced by power and do things they know are evil.
So I'm all in frand or and the Rise of
Skywalker can still suck it. One quick PostScript here. You
may not know the name Donald F. Glute, but he's
(28:07):
best known for being a part of the Star Wars
family as the author of the Empire strikes Back novelization
and a million other things from Shazam and Land of
the Loss on tv X men, tons of comics. I
don't know Don real well, but we've been at some
signings together conventions we've talked. Earlier this month, Don Glute
posted that he'd been the victim of identity theft and
(28:28):
was totally cleaned out. He started to go fund me,
and it's worth your time checking it out and deciding
if you want to lend a hand. I believe Don's
in his early eighties, which really isn't the ideal time
to start from scratch. See what you think. You can
read the details by searching for gofund me and support
Donald F. Glute glut in overcoming financial loss. That should
(28:49):
be on your screen right now if you're watching online,
enigmatically titled I know I've been scanned before myself, and
it sucks. These people can be quite clever, as clever
as they are ruthless. A lot of us are struggling
or preparing to struggle right now. The terror for session
seems pretty much guaranteed, and the student alone people will
be paying me a visit to take out my kneecaps
very soon. I know Don Glute will appreciate any help
(29:11):
you feel like giving. And then sometime maybe we can
have him on the show to talk about some of
the cool stuff he's done, particularly the Spider Man cartoon
from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That's your honor report.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Further deponent Saith not mo I, Saith nothing okay, Mark.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Perfect for Achy, indecisive minds KFI is cooling Infojel quickly
relieves ignorance and leaves a mifty fresh scent.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Ki and kost HD two Los Angeles
Later, with Mo'Kelly News
Popular Podcasts
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Decisions, Decisions
Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!