April 24, 2025 • 27 mins
(April 24, 2025)
California economy now the world’s fourth largest, overtaking Japan. The history and process of canonization. ‘Success from Scratch’ is back where Bill highlights small businesses from how they started to where they are today. Today, Bill talks with Tate Huffard, the Founder of Best Day Brewing. The fight intensifies over bill by former Edison executive to gut rooftop solar credits.
California economy now the world’s fourth largest, overtaking Japan. The history and process of canonization. ‘Success from Scratch’ is back where Bill highlights small businesses from how they started to where they are today. Today, Bill talks with Tate Huffard, the Founder of Best Day Brewing. The fight intensifies over bill by former Edison executive to gut rooftop solar credits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
KFI Handle here.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It is a Thursday morning, April twenty four. A couple
things before we jump into how the California economy is
doing and it's good news, which I don't understand this
but so be it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
First of all, some.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Of the trending stories we're looking at. Oh, here's one,
Neil your wheelhouse. Jack in the Box announced plan to
close one hundred and fifty to two hundred underperforming stores.
It's a financial plan they're calling Jack on track. Originally
we're gonna call it the Clown is Dying, but that
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one didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So Jack in the Box harder sell. It is a
harder cell.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Also a quick word about Friday, where we do Ask
Handle Anything.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We started a thirty on Friday morning and you ask
me questions about whatever the hell, and that came out
of the fact that everybody here on the station is
asked about everybody here on the station. What's John like,
what's Tim Conway like, what's Neil like? And I get
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about life. It's just kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Now, some news about the California economy. The governor announced
yesterday that we are now number four in the world.
I mean, the United States economy is first a twenty
nine trillion, China eighteen trillion, Germany at four point sixty
five trillion, and we are that we are next to
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the at Our economy is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's growing.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And let me ask you, how does the economy grow
when you have businesses leaving California. I can't think of
the last time a major business came to or came
back to California. You can't afford housing in California. The
taxes are crazy in California. Oh, I know how we
do it. What we do is we market our traffic
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because people from all over the world want to come
in California, California and live with our traffic. I don't
get it newsome attributed to a growing population, record tourism
spending coupled with a high concentration of venture capital and
new business ventures. I guess that's really where it's at.
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I mean, we do have agriculture big time, until illegal
migrants will no longer be allowed to work in this
country and then our agricultural sector completely disappears. High tech centers,
we have a lot of those manufacturing centers. I didn't
think we were that big on manufacturing. I know, agriculture
we are. Oh, how about the film and television industry.
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You know, we're losing We are losing centers, and we
are losing productions like crazy because they're going out of state,
out of country.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So you know, for the life of me, I do
not understand it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
In the meantime, California, as well as many other states
or several other states, have filed a lawsuit against the
administration challenging Trump's executive authority to enact international tariffs. Now,
a lot of people don't like those tariffs because well, frankly,
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it's going to cost the consumer a bucket of money,
and the major stores are in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Even though Trump exempted a.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Certain sector from that one hundred and forty five tariff
against China. What he exempted was the big ticket electronic
items computers and chips, etc. Leaving everything else in. So
what happens with the meeting of the president's CEO of
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Walmart and Target. They went to him and saying, you
know what, We're gonna have empty shelves.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You can kiss our stores goodbye. Oops. Oops. So there's
a lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
The lawsuit is not to somehow lower the.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Lower the tariffs.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
This lawsuit, as well as many other lawsuits that are
going to be flying, has to do with the president's
authority to do that unilaterally.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Usually in all of these cases.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I know I'm digressing a little bit, but the fact
is we're number four, Okay, thank you. Now the tariffs
which they kick in are going to be very difficult.
California will not be number four because we rely so
much on importing of goods, particularly from Asia, particularly from China,
certainly Korea, Vietnam. So it's gonna get really interesting. We'll
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see what happens. This is all Supreme Court stuff. By
the way, all these cases Supreme Court cases. How much
is the president? What kind of power the President has bill.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
What is the California economy made on?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Is that based on our taxes as well as is
that income to the state.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It is, but that is that's not the state generating income. Now,
employees are part of the economy. State employees are part
of the economy, and they're big. But it's what we produce,
services and goods that we produce.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's the economy.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And it's agriculture, and it's aerospace, and it's manufacturing, and
it's high tech. Agricultural is based on well, fifty percent
and I'm just throwing this figure out, but I think
is pretty close. Fifty percent of the workers are the migrants,
illegal migrants, and now the high tech people. Okay, that's
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obviously people who are here legally. And that's the other
issue with the visas, the tech visas that are going
on that the President wants to stop.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's a mess.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But the bottom line is California, counterintuitively is number.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Four in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Now it's probably going to go back to five in
the world because you've got India that's moving very quickly
in our direction.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
But still four or five. What difference that make?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's enormous, enormous Okay, I want to go to Pope Francis,
who is not only.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Dead, but also he is going to be made a saint.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I guarantee that there will be sainthood in his future.
Catholic Church is big on saints. John Paul the second
is a saint. John the twenty third is a saint.
Now the act of canonization may someone becoming a saint?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
The Pope does that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's the Holy See, and there there is a long
process to be made a saint, and there are people
already starting to work on it. Extensive proof that the
candidate for canonization lived and died in such an exemplary
and holy way worthy to be recognized as a saint.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yep, that's Francis.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And it implies that the person is now in heaven
and maybe publicly invoked and mentioned officially in the.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Liturgy of the Church.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And you could allow universal veneration of a saint, but
to venerate someone locally only Beautif beatification is needed, okay,
you can.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Be beatified, that's only local.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
How is I going to compare Remember I told you
I was going to compare handle on the law to
Pope Francis being a saint. Here it is okay. If
he is only beatified, he can only be venerated locally.
If he is sainted, it is across the Handle on
the Law is both a local show as well as
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a national show. So the local part of Handle on
the Law can only be beautified, the national part can
be sainted. That I actually say that my legal show
deserves sainthood. Only the people that listen to it deserve sainthood.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So some of the rules and the rules.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Go crazy on canonization and they started. Actually sainthood's been
going on for almost two thousand years in the Catholic Church,
and it changed from zero.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And I think who was the first saint? Would it
have been Peter? I don't know who is it? Those
crucified upside down?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That would be Peter?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Would that be Peter?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay, got it. Are there portraits of Peter.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Cruci fight to upside down? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well then you only have portraits of feet. But are
there portraits Peter? I remember seeing them?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, of course there's Okay, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know what Peter looked like.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
All I know is that if you can, I want
to know that Jesus was blonde and blue eyed.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You're Mormon, yeah, or you watch any of the nineteen
fifty sixties Bible films.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Anyway, nineteen eighty three, the big change took place.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
In the Apostolic the Apostolic Constitution Divinus, Perfectionists, magester of
Pope John Paul the Second. It all changed, but the
basic rules have not changed. And here is what happens.
The servant of God, which is actually a position. A
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bishop with jurisdiction gives permission to open up an investigation
into the virtues of an individual nominated to be a saint.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But there has to be beatification first.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That usually happens no sooner than five years after the death,
although a pope can weigh that, and you can do
it sooner than that. The pope can open a process
on his own, he's allowed to do that, but usually
it's a bishop who does that. And then an exhaustive
search of the candidate's writing, speeches, sermons undertaken, A detailed
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biography is written, eyewitness accounts are collected, and here is
the big one, and that is, after the death of
someone who has been nominated for sainthood, if it is
verified that two miracles have taken place, while invoking the
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name of that person that saint to be that is
considered enough. So you need two miracles. Inevitably, there are
always medical miracles of someone who had was dying of
some disorder, some disease, who the doctors have written off,
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who have prayed to the proposed saint and have survived
and come out the other end in great shape, and
it's attributed to that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's attributed to the saint.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
To be two of them, and they have to be
absolutely proven, prove well proven that they they were cured.
Now spontaneous cures, I don't know if that ever happens,
where people unexplatedly gets cured who are Mormon or who
are Buddhists and somehow.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
They get cured. But in the Catholic religion you got
two of those.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I want to point something out too, and that is
I have never seen a Catholic person pray for and
get a limb to be resurrected, lose a limb in
a car accident, praying for the limb to come back
and it comes back.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That is a miracle. You grow another, you grow another limb.
Middle name Salamander.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There was a there was a Protestant you know one
of these healers one time who had a comb over,
and it used to crack me up because I'm like,
you can't even heal your own baldness, and you're trying
to grow people's legs.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yes, by the way, I mean this, this miracle stuff
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know, during a passover we talk about the ten plagues,
right that God visited on Egypt. He turned the Nile
into red. Every March fourteenth or seventeenth, you go to Chicago,
the Chicago river turns green. Okay, great, And how about
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turning a staff right, a stick into a snake. Any
half assed magician can pull that one off. Now, if
Moses had said, you see that mountain over there, Pharaoh,
watch it move to the other end of the horizon.
That's a miracle. That would piss me off. Then I
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would go, Okay, you got me on that one.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Copperfield did the Statue of Liberties.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, that's true, that's true. In any case, you're going
to see. I guarantee you Francis is going to be
nominated as a saint, and that will happen five years
from a couple of days ago when he died.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Mark my words. Calendar it. Okay, we're bringing back segment
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Speaker 3 (13:48):
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Speaker 2 (13:51):
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Speaker 3 (14:01):
With this new era of success from scratch with a
gentleman by the name of Tate Hufferd.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Tate morning, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Good morning, Thanks, good morning.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, let me introduce you as before you jump into it.
To everybody, everybody's heard of craft beers, of course, particularly
here in southern California, and everybody has heard of non
alcoholic beers, and non alcoholic beers are disgusting and who
the hell drinks them.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
While craft beers are great.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And what Tate did is combine the two craft non
alcoholic beers. And so let's start talking about your company,
best day brewing, how it happened, why, And I'm assuming
it is a success, otherwise you wouldn't be here.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, well that's a really great introduction. Kause pretty much
sums up exactly why I stumbled into this category.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, I really love beer.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
I love the way that it brings people together from
park a lot of years after surfing, you know, I
pray ski and if you're at a music show, whatever.
And I love the way that it serves a real
role in our culture. And I found personally when I
was in my twenties, the equation was really easy, right.
It's just like rig and repeat. You can do as
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much as you want and then you wake up and
you start all over again. And and for me, when
I ran out of the corner into my thirties, that
calculus started to change.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
You know, Basically, the hangover started stinging a.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Little more, and I was doing less and less.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Of all the things that I love doing here in California.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
And so the very serendipitous thing that happened in my
life was my father in law. He would come over
and he would bring over a six pack of o'duels,
which is kind of directly to your point, and he
would choke down one and park the other five in
my fridge. And as someone who really loves craft beer,
you know, I'd open up my fridge and see the
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beers that I love drinking, which have four percent, six percent,
nine percent, and then see the oduels next to it,
and I just thought like, well, what if I could
make a great tasting craft beer that has no alcohol?
Why does the spectrum have to stop at low alcohol?
You know, if I could go to no alcohol make
a great tasting beer. Man, there's a there's a lot
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of use cases in my life, and that's.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Because you know, we don't have that much time tape.
But let me let me throw some questions at you. Uh,
how is the brewing different with non alcoholic beers?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Great question, Well, that's the big hurdle, right.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
It turns out it's really difficult and complicated to make
a great tasting non alcoholic beer. A lot of beer,
a lot of people do things differently. And what we
do is we through a full strength beer so it's
got all the flavors, all the aroma, and then we
use a specific piece of technology that extracts the alcohol
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without messing with the beer. And that's a process that's
never been done before.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
All right, is that your process? Is that proprietary?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Okay, so that's not proprietary, but we are one of
the only brands that are using it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Got it? And you started this when this company.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
We started in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
All right, so you're only three years old and I'm
reading here that you are on Amazon no surprise, but
also Whole Foods, Trader Joe s, Kroger, Albertson, Safeway, I mean,
on and on Target, Sprouts.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That is not easy to do. How were you able
to get into these stores.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That quickly, because if you know retailing, that's that's a
miracle that you were able to pull that off.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Well, I think it speaks to you know a couple
of things.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
As you know that the category is on fire, and
I think that you know, though there have been decades
of perception of what non alcohol has been, you know,
as as people taste our beer, as people experience our brand,
and as people share that through word of mouth, that
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has really accelerated things with this category. And the retailers
have really shown up in a big way to to
really step into this category and show that it's something
completely different than what it has been in the past.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Give me some flavors that you are producing.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yeah, So our number one cellar is our kulsh It's
a light, crisp, refreshing German style beer.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
We make a.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Fresh line infused Mexican lagger We've got a lineup of
really awesome I pas too. So we're bringing the full
craft beer experience to the non alcoholic category.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Any smoke mackerel beer.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I'm telling you that would be a big, big seller.
So yeah, you know, I'm fascinated by how you were
able to pull this off because you don't have a
background in this industry. Do you just came onto this
and decided you saw what was going on and you
went for it.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I do not have a background
other than being a beer drinker. That's the extent of
my experience in beer. And so you know, as this
this concept was crystallizing, and really the opportunity for the
brand was was really coming to life. You know, I
made a commitment to surround myself with really smart people
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who also understood the opportunity but that but who did
have experience in beverage and in beer and who had
built big things. And you know, I credit all of
the success that we've had and all of our ability
to move quickly to this incredible team that I've surrounded
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myself with.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Okay, the company's name is Best Day Brewing. You can
go to Best Daybrewing dot Com, go to Amazon, Whole Foods,
Trader Joe's, Kroger's, Albertson's. I mean, it just goes on
and on.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Best Day Brewing dot Com, Tate, thanks for joining us,
good luck, hope you make buckets of money on this.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
For care of Bill. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's fun to do successful scratch again. All right? Lot
going on today?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Jack in the Box announced plans to close one hundred
and fifty to two hundred under performing stores as part
of their Jack on track. I have no idea why
they're calling it that, but I have to like Jack
in the Box. Remember the clown that used to, you know,
jump out of the Jack in the Box.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The other day I went to a pharmacy.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
A drive through, and I ordered a burger with fries
and a large die of coke, and the lady said,
we're a pharmacy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh okay, Now.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Let me tell you what's going on in the world
of California Government and Politics. There's a bill that was
introduced to reduce the energy credits given to homeowners who
have solar panels, particularly those who have solar panels put
in before April fifteen, twenty twenty three, which I did,
and what it says is the credits that these solar
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system owners are getting, and before twenty twenty three, you
would sell if you didn't use all the electricity, which
you didn't during the day because that's when electricity was
obviously plentiful and the panels produced a bunch of it,
would go back to the utility, would go back to
the grid, and you would be paid for that electricity. Well,
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there are a few people out there that are going,
wait a minute here, because here's the bottom line. If
you are selling back to the grid, then what's happening
is the people who don't have solar are subsidizing your electricity,
and that is unfair. And the utilities are saying, we
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don't want to pay for electricity from you guys. We're
not interested. But it's the law. So who introduced this
bill Assembly Bill nine two to slash the credits for
people who install these solar systems before April fifteenth of
twenty twenty three. Well, there's an Assembly member by the
name of Lisa Calderon who is there to help the
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public and wants the those people who don't have solar
to just have a better break. Now, the fact that
she worked for Southern California Edison for twenty five years
before she was elected has nothing to do with it,
even though it's a bill that clearly Southern California Electric
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and other utilities are in favor of.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
For years, Edison and the other too big for.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Profit utilities have tried to reduce these energy credits that
incentivized US Californians to invest in solar panels, which is
exactly what I did, and that's why I did it. Well,
these rooftop systems have reduced utility sales of electricity.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They're not selling enough.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Why because we have solar and we're forcing them to
pay us under this bill. And so there's two sides
on this one. You have the utilities. You have people
who sell solar systems, and on the other side you
have Free Sample, the electrical workers, the union that installs
solar systems. And then you have folks on the other
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side who are saying it is so unfair for the
non solar owners to subsidize those that have solar systems
because they're paying more for electricity then they would be
if the people that own solar systems didn't get all
these breaks. All right, Well that's the fight that's going
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to go on. And then of course you have the
environmentalists who are in the freight arguing that we want
solar systems because with a solar system you're not burning
fossil fuels. Could remember, our power comes from gas powered plants,
these power plants which are fossil fuel powered. Well, if
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you have and I don't know, I think what a
third of California?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What percentage and what percentage of California has a solar
system alternate energy? She's looking it up right now. See
I wish I knew that, and I should have known that.
And as soon as Anne tells me, I'm going to
say I absolutely knew that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
She's asking Siri. I should have asked Siri.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
The point is, whatever percentage of Californians are using solar? Okay,
Well there's I said thirty, So I'll take thirty because
it makes my argument even stronger. So let's say we
have twenty eight we have thirty percent of Californians using
solar alternate energy, solar being a huge amount of that,
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and that means that they're not using fossil fuels, which
means that utilities want to sell their electricity have to
produce their electricity with fossil fuel plants power plants. And
there is the fight with the environmentalists. If you care
about the environment and think that fossil fuels is causing
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a lot of this climate change, well then you're gonna
be on the side of keeping the incentives and making
sure that the people who have solar power it makes
sense for them financially. Now the other argument is it
already makes sense financially whether you get the credit or not.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And yeah, that makes sense. And by the way, they're
now three tiers.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I put in my first solar system before twenty twenty three,
and so I was on that level Tier one, which
means I sell back to the grid and so not
only do I not pay for electricity, I make money
on my solar panels, or the new owners do because
it's transferred over. Then there's tier two, and then I
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just built mine, which is a reduced amount, and then
Tier three where you get nothing and all you get
is the energy. I'm fine with that, whether I get
nothing or not. I'm not paying for electricity. That's enough
for me, so I have no problem with that, the
bottom line and the assembly member. What I like about
Lisa Calderon is she is completely objective about this, as
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she only worked for twenty five years for Edison and
is not trying to save Edison's ass at all.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
How much money do you think Edison gave her for
her campaign? Huh? All right?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
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KFI Handle here.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It is a Thursday morning, April twenty four. A couple
things before we jump into how the California economy is
doing and it's good news, which I don't understand this
but so be it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
First of all, some.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Of the trending stories we're looking at. Oh, here's one,
Neil your wheelhouse. Jack in the Box announced plan to
close one hundred and fifty to two hundred underperforming stores.
It's a financial plan they're calling Jack on track. Originally
we're gonna call it the Clown is Dying, but that
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one didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So Jack in the Box harder sell. It is a
harder cell.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Also a quick word about Friday, where we do Ask
Handle Anything.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We started a thirty on Friday morning and you ask
me questions about whatever the hell, and that came out
of the fact that everybody here on the station is
asked about everybody here on the station. What's John like,
what's Tim Conway like, what's Neil like? And I get
those questions and you get those questions. So Ask Handle
(01:13):
Anything is a thirty Friday morning you get to record
the questions during the show. Go to the iHeartRadio app
and the iHeart app and then click onto KFI and
then in the upper right hand corner there's a microphone.
Click onto that and record your question. And I don't
care what question you ask. You know, I'm pretty open
(01:34):
about life. It's just kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Now, some news about the California economy. The governor announced
yesterday that we are now number four in the world.
I mean, the United States economy is first a twenty
nine trillion, China eighteen trillion, Germany at four point sixty
five trillion, and we are that we are next to
(01:59):
the at Our economy is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's growing.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And let me ask you, how does the economy grow
when you have businesses leaving California. I can't think of
the last time a major business came to or came
back to California. You can't afford housing in California. The
taxes are crazy in California. Oh, I know how we
do it. What we do is we market our traffic
(02:26):
because people from all over the world want to come
in California, California and live with our traffic. I don't
get it newsome attributed to a growing population, record tourism
spending coupled with a high concentration of venture capital and
new business ventures. I guess that's really where it's at.
(02:48):
I mean, we do have agriculture big time, until illegal
migrants will no longer be allowed to work in this
country and then our agricultural sector completely disappears. High tech centers,
we have a lot of those manufacturing centers. I didn't
think we were that big on manufacturing. I know, agriculture
we are. Oh, how about the film and television industry.
(03:11):
You know, we're losing We are losing centers, and we
are losing productions like crazy because they're going out of state,
out of country.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So you know, for the life of me, I do
not understand it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
In the meantime, California, as well as many other states
or several other states, have filed a lawsuit against the
administration challenging Trump's executive authority to enact international tariffs. Now,
a lot of people don't like those tariffs because well, frankly,
(03:44):
it's going to cost the consumer a bucket of money,
and the major stores are in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Even though Trump exempted a.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Certain sector from that one hundred and forty five tariff
against China. What he exempted was the big ticket electronic
items computers and chips, etc. Leaving everything else in. So
what happens with the meeting of the president's CEO of
(04:12):
Walmart and Target. They went to him and saying, you
know what, We're gonna have empty shelves.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You can kiss our stores goodbye. Oops. Oops. So there's
a lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
The lawsuit is not to somehow lower the.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Lower the tariffs.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
This lawsuit, as well as many other lawsuits that are
going to be flying, has to do with the president's
authority to do that unilaterally.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Usually in all of these cases.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I know I'm digressing a little bit, but the fact
is we're number four, Okay, thank you. Now the tariffs
which they kick in are going to be very difficult.
California will not be number four because we rely so
much on importing of goods, particularly from Asia, particularly from China,
certainly Korea, Vietnam. So it's gonna get really interesting. We'll
(05:03):
see what happens. This is all Supreme Court stuff. By
the way, all these cases Supreme Court cases. How much
is the president? What kind of power the President has bill.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
What is the California economy made on?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Is that based on our taxes as well as is
that income to the state.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It is, but that is that's not the state generating income. Now,
employees are part of the economy. State employees are part
of the economy, and they're big. But it's what we produce,
services and goods that we produce.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's the economy.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And it's agriculture, and it's aerospace, and it's manufacturing, and
it's high tech. Agricultural is based on well, fifty percent
and I'm just throwing this figure out, but I think
is pretty close. Fifty percent of the workers are the migrants,
illegal migrants, and now the high tech people. Okay, that's
(06:00):
obviously people who are here legally. And that's the other
issue with the visas, the tech visas that are going
on that the President wants to stop.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's a mess.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But the bottom line is California, counterintuitively is number.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Four in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Now it's probably going to go back to five in
the world because you've got India that's moving very quickly
in our direction.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
But still four or five. What difference that make?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's enormous, enormous Okay, I want to go to Pope Francis,
who is not only.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Dead, but also he is going to be made a saint.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I guarantee that there will be sainthood in his future.
Catholic Church is big on saints. John Paul the second
is a saint. John the twenty third is a saint.
Now the act of canonization may someone becoming a saint?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
The Pope does that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's the Holy See, and there there is a long
process to be made a saint, and there are people
already starting to work on it. Extensive proof that the
candidate for canonization lived and died in such an exemplary
and holy way worthy to be recognized as a saint.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yep, that's Francis.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And it implies that the person is now in heaven
and maybe publicly invoked and mentioned officially in the.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Liturgy of the Church.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And you could allow universal veneration of a saint, but
to venerate someone locally only Beautif beatification is needed, okay,
you can.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Be beatified, that's only local.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
How is I going to compare Remember I told you
I was going to compare handle on the law to
Pope Francis being a saint. Here it is okay. If
he is only beatified, he can only be venerated locally.
If he is sainted, it is across the Handle on
the Law is both a local show as well as
(08:06):
a national show. So the local part of Handle on
the Law can only be beautified, the national part can
be sainted. That I actually say that my legal show
deserves sainthood. Only the people that listen to it deserve sainthood.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So some of the rules and the rules.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Go crazy on canonization and they started. Actually sainthood's been
going on for almost two thousand years in the Catholic Church,
and it changed from zero.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And I think who was the first saint? Would it
have been Peter? I don't know who is it? Those
crucified upside down?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That would be Peter?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Would that be Peter?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay, got it. Are there portraits of Peter.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Cruci fight to upside down? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well then you only have portraits of feet. But are
there portraits Peter? I remember seeing them?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, of course there's Okay, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know what Peter looked like.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
All I know is that if you can, I want
to know that Jesus was blonde and blue eyed.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You're Mormon, yeah, or you watch any of the nineteen
fifty sixties Bible films.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Anyway, nineteen eighty three, the big change took place.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
In the Apostolic the Apostolic Constitution Divinus, Perfectionists, magester of
Pope John Paul the Second. It all changed, but the
basic rules have not changed. And here is what happens.
The servant of God, which is actually a position. A
(09:54):
bishop with jurisdiction gives permission to open up an investigation
into the virtues of an individual nominated to be a saint.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But there has to be beatification first.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That usually happens no sooner than five years after the death,
although a pope can weigh that, and you can do
it sooner than that. The pope can open a process
on his own, he's allowed to do that, but usually
it's a bishop who does that. And then an exhaustive
search of the candidate's writing, speeches, sermons undertaken, A detailed
(10:31):
biography is written, eyewitness accounts are collected, and here is
the big one, and that is, after the death of
someone who has been nominated for sainthood, if it is
verified that two miracles have taken place, while invoking the
(10:52):
name of that person that saint to be that is
considered enough. So you need two miracles. Inevitably, there are
always medical miracles of someone who had was dying of
some disorder, some disease, who the doctors have written off,
(11:14):
who have prayed to the proposed saint and have survived
and come out the other end in great shape, and
it's attributed to that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's attributed to the saint.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
To be two of them, and they have to be
absolutely proven, prove well proven that they they were cured.
Now spontaneous cures, I don't know if that ever happens,
where people unexplatedly gets cured who are Mormon or who
are Buddhists and somehow.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
They get cured. But in the Catholic religion you got
two of those.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I want to point something out too, and that is
I have never seen a Catholic person pray for and
get a limb to be resurrected, lose a limb in
a car accident, praying for the limb to come back
and it comes back.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That is a miracle. You grow another, you grow another limb.
Middle name Salamander.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There was a there was a Protestant you know one
of these healers one time who had a comb over,
and it used to crack me up because I'm like,
you can't even heal your own baldness, and you're trying
to grow people's legs.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yes, by the way, I mean this, this miracle stuff
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know, during a passover we talk about the ten plagues,
right that God visited on Egypt. He turned the Nile
into red. Every March fourteenth or seventeenth, you go to Chicago,
the Chicago river turns green. Okay, great, And how about
(12:58):
turning a staff right, a stick into a snake. Any
half assed magician can pull that one off. Now, if
Moses had said, you see that mountain over there, Pharaoh,
watch it move to the other end of the horizon.
That's a miracle. That would piss me off. Then I
(13:21):
would go, Okay, you got me on that one.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Copperfield did the Statue of Liberties.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, that's true, that's true. In any case, you're going
to see. I guarantee you Francis is going to be
nominated as a saint, and that will happen five years
from a couple of days ago when he died.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
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Speaker 3 (14:01):
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Speaker 2 (14:08):
Tate morning, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Good morning, Thanks, good morning.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, let me introduce you as before you jump into it.
To everybody, everybody's heard of craft beers, of course, particularly
here in southern California, and everybody has heard of non
alcoholic beers, and non alcoholic beers are disgusting and who
the hell drinks them.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
While craft beers are great.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And what Tate did is combine the two craft non
alcoholic beers. And so let's start talking about your company,
best day brewing, how it happened, why, And I'm assuming
it is a success, otherwise you wouldn't be here.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, well that's a really great introduction. Kause pretty much
sums up exactly why I stumbled into this category.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, I really love beer.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
I love the way that it brings people together from
park a lot of years after surfing, you know, I
pray ski and if you're at a music show, whatever.
And I love the way that it serves a real
role in our culture. And I found personally when I
was in my twenties, the equation was really easy, right.
It's just like rig and repeat. You can do as
(15:22):
much as you want and then you wake up and
you start all over again. And and for me, when
I ran out of the corner into my thirties, that
calculus started to change.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
You know, Basically, the hangover started stinging a.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Little more, and I was doing less and less.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Of all the things that I love doing here in California.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
And so the very serendipitous thing that happened in my
life was my father in law. He would come over
and he would bring over a six pack of o'duels,
which is kind of directly to your point, and he
would choke down one and park the other five in
my fridge. And as someone who really loves craft beer,
you know, I'd open up my fridge and see the
(16:01):
beers that I love drinking, which have four percent, six percent,
nine percent, and then see the oduels next to it,
and I just thought like, well, what if I could
make a great tasting craft beer that has no alcohol?
Why does the spectrum have to stop at low alcohol?
You know, if I could go to no alcohol make
a great tasting beer. Man, there's a there's a lot
(16:22):
of use cases in my life, and that's.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Because you know, we don't have that much time tape.
But let me let me throw some questions at you. Uh,
how is the brewing different with non alcoholic beers?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Great question, Well, that's the big hurdle, right.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
It turns out it's really difficult and complicated to make
a great tasting non alcoholic beer. A lot of beer,
a lot of people do things differently. And what we
do is we through a full strength beer so it's
got all the flavors, all the aroma, and then we
use a specific piece of technology that extracts the alcohol
(16:59):
without messing with the beer. And that's a process that's
never been done before.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
All right, is that your process? Is that proprietary?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Okay, so that's not proprietary, but we are one of
the only brands that are using it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Got it? And you started this when this company.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
We started in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
All right, so you're only three years old and I'm
reading here that you are on Amazon no surprise, but
also Whole Foods, Trader Joe s, Kroger, Albertson, Safeway, I mean,
on and on Target, Sprouts.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That is not easy to do. How were you able
to get into these stores.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That quickly, because if you know retailing, that's that's a
miracle that you were able to pull that off.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Well, I think it speaks to you know a couple
of things.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
As you know that the category is on fire, and
I think that you know, though there have been decades
of perception of what non alcohol has been, you know,
as as people taste our beer, as people experience our brand,
and as people share that through word of mouth, that
(18:12):
has really accelerated things with this category. And the retailers
have really shown up in a big way to to
really step into this category and show that it's something
completely different than what it has been in the past.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Give me some flavors that you are producing.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yeah, So our number one cellar is our kulsh It's
a light, crisp, refreshing German style beer.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
We make a.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Fresh line infused Mexican lagger We've got a lineup of
really awesome I pas too. So we're bringing the full
craft beer experience to the non alcoholic category.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Any smoke mackerel beer.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I'm telling you that would be a big, big seller.
So yeah, you know, I'm fascinated by how you were
able to pull this off because you don't have a
background in this industry. Do you just came onto this
and decided you saw what was going on and you
went for it.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I do not have a background
other than being a beer drinker. That's the extent of
my experience in beer. And so you know, as this
this concept was crystallizing, and really the opportunity for the
brand was was really coming to life. You know, I
made a commitment to surround myself with really smart people
(19:44):
who also understood the opportunity but that but who did
have experience in beverage and in beer and who had
built big things. And you know, I credit all of
the success that we've had and all of our ability
to move quickly to this incredible team that I've surrounded
(20:04):
myself with.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Okay, the company's name is Best Day Brewing. You can
go to Best Daybrewing dot Com, go to Amazon, Whole Foods,
Trader Joe's, Kroger's, Albertson's. I mean, it just goes on
and on.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Best Day Brewing dot Com, Tate, thanks for joining us,
good luck, hope you make buckets of money on this.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
For care of Bill. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's fun to do successful scratch again. All right? Lot
going on today?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Jack in the Box announced plans to close one hundred
and fifty to two hundred under performing stores as part
of their Jack on track. I have no idea why
they're calling it that, but I have to like Jack
in the Box. Remember the clown that used to, you know,
jump out of the Jack in the Box.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The other day I went to a pharmacy.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
A drive through, and I ordered a burger with fries
and a large die of coke, and the lady said,
we're a pharmacy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh okay, Now.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Let me tell you what's going on in the world
of California Government and Politics. There's a bill that was
introduced to reduce the energy credits given to homeowners who
have solar panels, particularly those who have solar panels put
in before April fifteen, twenty twenty three, which I did,
and what it says is the credits that these solar
(21:45):
system owners are getting, and before twenty twenty three, you
would sell if you didn't use all the electricity, which
you didn't during the day because that's when electricity was
obviously plentiful and the panels produced a bunch of it,
would go back to the utility, would go back to
the grid, and you would be paid for that electricity. Well,
(22:07):
there are a few people out there that are going,
wait a minute here, because here's the bottom line. If
you are selling back to the grid, then what's happening
is the people who don't have solar are subsidizing your electricity,
and that is unfair. And the utilities are saying, we
(22:31):
don't want to pay for electricity from you guys. We're
not interested. But it's the law. So who introduced this
bill Assembly Bill nine two to slash the credits for
people who install these solar systems before April fifteenth of
twenty twenty three. Well, there's an Assembly member by the
name of Lisa Calderon who is there to help the
(22:56):
public and wants the those people who don't have solar
to just have a better break. Now, the fact that
she worked for Southern California Edison for twenty five years
before she was elected has nothing to do with it,
even though it's a bill that clearly Southern California Electric
(23:19):
and other utilities are in favor of.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
For years, Edison and the other too big for.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Profit utilities have tried to reduce these energy credits that
incentivized US Californians to invest in solar panels, which is
exactly what I did, and that's why I did it. Well,
these rooftop systems have reduced utility sales of electricity.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They're not selling enough.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Why because we have solar and we're forcing them to
pay us under this bill. And so there's two sides
on this one. You have the utilities. You have people
who sell solar systems, and on the other side you
have Free Sample, the electrical workers, the union that installs
solar systems. And then you have folks on the other
(24:07):
side who are saying it is so unfair for the
non solar owners to subsidize those that have solar systems
because they're paying more for electricity then they would be
if the people that own solar systems didn't get all
these breaks. All right, Well that's the fight that's going
(24:30):
to go on. And then of course you have the
environmentalists who are in the freight arguing that we want
solar systems because with a solar system you're not burning
fossil fuels. Could remember, our power comes from gas powered plants,
these power plants which are fossil fuel powered. Well, if
(24:51):
you have and I don't know, I think what a
third of California?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What percentage and what percentage of California has a solar
system alternate energy? She's looking it up right now. See
I wish I knew that, and I should have known that.
And as soon as Anne tells me, I'm going to
say I absolutely knew that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
She's asking Siri. I should have asked Siri.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
The point is, whatever percentage of Californians are using solar? Okay,
Well there's I said thirty, So I'll take thirty because
it makes my argument even stronger. So let's say we
have twenty eight we have thirty percent of Californians using
solar alternate energy, solar being a huge amount of that,
(25:35):
and that means that they're not using fossil fuels, which
means that utilities want to sell their electricity have to
produce their electricity with fossil fuel plants power plants. And
there is the fight with the environmentalists. If you care
about the environment and think that fossil fuels is causing
(25:58):
a lot of this climate change, well then you're gonna
be on the side of keeping the incentives and making
sure that the people who have solar power it makes
sense for them financially. Now the other argument is it
already makes sense financially whether you get the credit or not.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And yeah, that makes sense. And by the way, they're
now three tiers.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I put in my first solar system before twenty twenty three,
and so I was on that level Tier one, which
means I sell back to the grid and so not
only do I not pay for electricity, I make money
on my solar panels, or the new owners do because
it's transferred over. Then there's tier two, and then I
(26:44):
just built mine, which is a reduced amount, and then
Tier three where you get nothing and all you get
is the energy. I'm fine with that, whether I get
nothing or not. I'm not paying for electricity. That's enough
for me, so I have no problem with that, the
bottom line and the assembly member. What I like about
Lisa Calderon is she is completely objective about this, as
(27:07):
she only worked for twenty five years for Edison and
is not trying to save Edison's ass at all.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
How much money do you think Edison gave her for
her campaign? Huh? All right?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Coming out Joel Larsgard how to Money has heard Sunday
twelve pm the two pm here on KFI and joins
us at the eight o'clock hour Every Thursday. This is
KFI AM six point forty. You've been listening to the
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