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December 5, 2024 35 mins
United Healthcare headlines about this shooting / Timeline of fatal shooting UHC CEO. Guest: David Vassegh to talk about Blake Snail from the Los Angeles Dodgers. Tsunami warning for parts of Northern California after 7.0-magnitude offshore earthquake. Dr. Lucy Jones on the 7.0 earthquake offshore of Humboldt County.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's k I Am sixty and you're listening to The
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio appf I Am sixty.
It is The Conway Show. Oh yes, sting dong with you. Man,
what a big story. The CEO of the insurance company

(00:21):
has become God almighty, this thing blew up. And I
think for a lot of reasons. I think there are
a lot of reasons. It has a lot of legs here.
First of all, where it happened. This guy, Brian Thompson,
big CEO of one of these huge, huge insurance companies,
and gunn down in the streets of New York. And

(00:44):
I think why it's a big story is because of
where it happened. This guy could have shot him in
Minnesota where he lives, or you know, and any one
of these small cities he goes into. But he did
it on the streets of New York, and I think
is a really bold move. I think that's you know,

(01:04):
you're not going to catch me. I can do what
I want. They got a lot of information on this
guy who gunned him down, a lot of information, and
so it's a story that just doesn't stop. I mean,
for instance, if you look at I'll just open up.
I'll open up two news sources that I use, New

(01:26):
York Post. You open up and you see the New
York Post and the top story. The top story been
two days later with everything going on in this world.
Suspect scene casually strolling through New York City subway station
thirty minutes before executing United Healthcare ceo. And there's a

(01:48):
new video. And then the second story on New York Post,
United Healthcare ceo suspected gunmen looks like these a list
celebrities according to the Internet. And there's a third story,
United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson's killer may have used a
modern version of a rare World War two spy gun

(02:10):
in brutal murder. There's a fourth story. These are this
is the biggest, one of the biggest newspapers in New
York and one of the bigger news sources in the
United States and around the world. There's a fourth story.
Manhunt for United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson's killer enters second day.

(02:30):
Here's what major clues investigators are looking at. There's a
fifth story. Healthcare executives commonly faced threats, say security expert
who wonders why United Healthcare ceo was alone on the
streets of New York. Okay, there's five stories. Nope, right
under the advertisement. A sixth story. United Healthcare CEO Brian

(02:54):
Thompson's suspect shooter used a fake New Jersey ID to
check into a hostel. And according to sources, there's a
seventh message on the bullets fired by Healthcare ceo assassin
bears eerie link to a book condemning insurance companies. That's
the seventh story. This is just one news source. Seven stories.

(03:19):
There's an eighth grinning suspect in United Healthcare ceo murder,
New York City execution unmasked and new pictures. They're eight stories,
eight stories on this guy. And this shooting is not
going away. This is the talk of the town. Everybody's

(03:41):
talking about it. If you missed any of it, we'll
take you through a brief timeline here of this crazy story.
And again, this is a wild, wild story happening on
the streets of New York City where this guy who's
making ten million dollars a year married his college suite heart,
and we subsequently have learned that that marriage is not

(04:04):
going well. He had moved out and bought a house
about a mile away, and they don't live together. So
when they when they when you hear comments from the wife, yes,
legally she's still his wife, but they don't live together.
So there's another another angle that the cops are looking at.
You know, is this some kind of revenge? Is this

(04:25):
some kind of you know, is there a third person?
Is there a jealousy thing going on between the husband
and wife? And you know that whole angle, and so
there's a lot to get to. But here's the timeline.
If you missed any part of that story, it's it's
it's a crazy story. Hey, Belly, you turn that computer
on for me, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Beck.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Several new developments today, and actually just in the last
couple of minutes, we have learned that a person of
interest is believed to have stayed here at this hostel. Now,
we spoke to people at the hostel. You are required
to show an ID to check in. What we have
just learned from sources that that person of interest used
a fake ID and a fake name to possibly check

(05:06):
in here, leaving every guest here on edge. Police released
new images of a person of interest connected to Wednesday's
fatal shooting of fifty year old United Healthcare CEO Brian
Thompson outside the Hilton Midtown. Police sources say these new
surveillance images were taken before the shooting, obtained from a
hostel on West one hundred and third Street, where detectives

(05:27):
interviewed staff and guests.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I don't even know they have hostiles anymore. Doesn't that
seem like something out of the nineteen seventies. Then in
Europe you'd go from one hostel to another. Krazy, you've
been to a hostel, you'd better stay one of these joints.
I have not.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
My daughter was in one just about two months ago
in Europe. Now in San Francisco, they still have been.
San Francisco are apparently really huge, especially maybe with this
younger generation. She told me she went up there and
she was and the other daughter, Sam, she went to
Europe and she actually knows people. They stay in the
hostels all the time. Like you say, it's still huge
thing in Europe and San Francisco asks it all about it,

(06:03):
she says, it was so much better than you would expect.
You really you do get your own room. You share
a bathroom, but you get your own room and you
get a sink and all that stuff in there.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
It was in prison.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
The room locks, you know, they're basically like bunk bunk beds. Yeah,
I mean, I mean, what's the prison. It's a it's
a room that you share a bathroom.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Good.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
But it was like super cheap, like ten twenty bucks
or something like that. And you do have your own
privacy a room that locks. Oh that's kind of cool. Yeah,
I mean, you know, and the population everybody that was there,
they were all generally around her age or their age,
and they all it was a very sort of good
communal aspect to it.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah. I like that that communal living. When I lived
in a dorm at Bowling Green State University, I loved
living in a dorm with you know, a bunch of
other idiots like me. It was great. It was really
a cool deal.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
They just they clean it up.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's really nice. It's great. I love it, man, I
love it. They just asked me questions, leg did you
see anyone? What was what was it? And did you
By the way, if you think this is a big
story in LA this is the talk of the town
in New York City. Everybody is talking about this you know,
like if this happened in the streets of Burbank, or

(07:13):
you know, somewhere in the San Fernando Valley or Century
City or Beverly Hills or Santa Monica, everybody will out
here be talking about it. Everybody lives within three or
four miles of where this happened. If you live in
New York, you live within four maybe five miles of
where this shooting happened. It's a big local issue in
New York. And anytime there's a big story in New York,

(07:35):
the people in New York think that New York is
the center of the universe. And I guess in a
lot of ways it is. And they get this story out.
It's out on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, It's on you know,
the Daily News, La Times, New York Times, It's everywhere everywhere.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
I saw two more and like a guy dressed like
the textis probably in sexus. Then I went to my
room on the fourth floor. I went to brush my teeth.
When I got to the corner that goes to the bathroom,
there was like another that types of the dam. He
was like, no, you can't go best here.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Matthew Toronto, a guest from Brazil said police were standing
outside this door on the fourth floor.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
By the way, a I have a policy, I have
a theory in life. On let me back up here on.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
The fourth floor. I went to brush my teeth.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, anytime somebody says, with the exception of jay Leno,
with the exception of jay Leto, I'll give him pass.
Anytime somebody says I never take any pills, all they
do is pills. When anyone says I never drink, all
they do is drink. When somebody says, oh, I always

(08:39):
work out, they never work out. People are the exact
opposite what they always say. So whenever somebody.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Says this, I went to brush my teeth.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I went to brush my teeth. He's never brushed his teeth.
People don't talk like that. I went to brush my teeth.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
I went to brush my teeth.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
When it's the last time you said that I went
to brush my teeth. Uh, don't you just brush them
and shut out up?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
There was like another that types of the thing. He
was like, no, you can't go best here.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Matthew Toronto, a guest from Brazil, said police.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
It sounds like a mob. Name like you call up
a guy in you know, hey, get Matthew Toronto knocked
this guy off.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Matthew Toronto. A guest from Brazil said police were standing
outside this door on the fourth floor. This visitor from
Denmark said people he met stayed in that shared room.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Wow, pretty shock, because who could be a pretty.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Bad The hostel's website says upon check in, photo identification
and a credit card is required, adding residents of New
York City cannot be accommodated at this property. Law enforcement
sources say shell casings found at the shooting see you
know Norm McDonald.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Speaking of identification, Nor McDonald had a great line. He said,
I D is short for identification. So I is short
for I and then D is short for identification. Which
one got it easy? Which one got the easier one.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Law enforcement sources say shell casings found at the shooting
scene had words including deny and delay written on them.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh boy, that is an old book written about how
insurance companies deny claims.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Polease say they're investigating the messages as possible grudges against
the insurance company and are reviewing disputes involving United Healthcare
and it's CEO. Sources Sday a search warrant was executed
at Thompson's hotel room, but nothing has advanced the motive
or the investigation.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
This is a nationwise search. This is not something that
maybe just Germaine towards New York City. This may be
something that touches other parts of the country. Listen, this
may come back to some type of potential problems or
personal beat and mister Thompson, that happened in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
That's right, that could be it. All right, We're going
to cover this story all night long. We've got other
news to do as well, but this is a major story,
and throughout the night, as these details come in, we
are going to bring them to you live. But when
we come back, we have a lot of Dodger news
going on. This is the Dodger Town. We work at
the next door to the Dodger station, and we're fortunate

(11:07):
to have one of the great broadcasters come in and
talk about the Dodgers. So we're going to do that next.
One of the greats, one of the great broadcasters of
the La Dodgers, not Vince Scully, but somebody very close
to that.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Right now, time to talk Dodgers with David vaz sy
ding dong with you, buddy.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Ding Don Conway. I'm here to play in the sandbox,
not talk about the real world.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's great, that's great. I'm with you, all right. So
we got a lot of developments with the La Dodgers.
We got this guy named David or Peter Snell right close,
Blake Snell. Ake Snell is also on the team. I
love that guy, aka snell Zilla. Oh nice, Okay, what's
his background? You've known him for a while.

Speaker 9 (11:55):
I've known him since twenty twenty one. We got introduced
by Dodger b writer Juan Terribio, who covered Blake Snell
when he was with the Tampa Bay Rays. He introduced
me to Snell, and ever since that day in twenty
twenty one, snell Zilla has needed David Vassay in his life.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Good.

Speaker 9 (12:13):
We've gone to Korean barbecue and all hambro together when
he's coming to town. So he's a guy that is
definitely misperceived because he has red marks under both eyes.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
He drinks a lot.

Speaker 9 (12:25):
Yeah, looks like he has not gotten much sleep, which
to a certain extent.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
So keep pointing at me. What's wrong with you?

Speaker 9 (12:31):
Well, I mean you kind of resemble the pink cheeks
ooh of snell Zilla.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, but I didn't get it from pitching. I got
him from drinking.

Speaker 9 (12:38):
Well, he doesn't drink. All he drinks is Shirley Temples.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (12:42):
He does not drink alcohol. And he doesn't smoke marijuana
like everybody else thinks he does. He does talk. He's
thirty two, just thirty two yesterday.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Is it tough for a thirty two year old single
man in LA to order himself a Shirley Temple?

Speaker 9 (12:59):
It is not. It's actually endearing. You know. He does
have a fiance. Okay, he does want to live in California.
He is a two time cy Young Award winner and
wants his locker next to future Hall of Famer Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Good.

Speaker 9 (13:14):
He actually made that request during his meeting with the Dodgers. Yeah,
if you signed with the Dodgers, he wanted his locker
next to Kershaw because he looks up to him.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, he's a lefty. Lefty lefties are always odd, yes,
going back to Fernando, you know, they're just a little quirky.

Speaker 9 (13:30):
Right, And he is I mean he plays video games.
He has a video game channel on Twitch, and he's
a guy that drinks Shirley Temples and loves two cherries
in it.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
What's his pitch?

Speaker 9 (13:43):
Change up? Change up? Fastball are his two best pitches?
And the Dodgers believe, even at thirty two, his best
years are ahead of him. Because of that, he hasn't
had a lot of arm issues either.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
All right, Blake Snell, what number is he going to be?

Speaker 9 (13:57):
Number seven?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (14:00):
Worn by Jager?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
No, Julio Urias was Jaeger seven?

Speaker 10 (14:04):
He was?

Speaker 9 (14:05):
That was back in nineteen eighty four. Before that feels
like yesterday, right, Conway.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Buddy, I remember Steve Jeger getting hit in the throat
with that broken back.

Speaker 9 (14:16):
It was yesterday, and he was the pioneer for that
chin guard that now dangles beneath catchers right the catcher's mass.
That's right because of that.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
All right. So Freddy Freeman surgery.

Speaker 9 (14:29):
World Series hero Freddie Freeman, who had a Kirk Gibson
like World Series banged up with a bad right.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Ankle grand slam, a torn rib muscle.

Speaker 9 (14:38):
That we found out after walk off Grand Slam in
Game one today, had right ankle surgery to clean up
whatever was going on in that right ankle, but will
be ready for spring training.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Look, i'm I'm. I would say I know about five
percent of what you do when it comes to baseball,
and you know a lot and you know not to
pitch Freddie Freeman inside, why would they do that? Was
that a mistake pitch?

Speaker 9 (15:06):
Huge mistake pitch. And Freddie's a really smart player. He
studied the way that pitcher Nestor Cortes pitched Otani okay,
and he was expecting him to, you know, throw him
a pitch that was an off speed pitch instead of
that fastball, and he was ready for it. And by
the way, Nestor Cortes, that pitcher that threw the pitch

(15:29):
that turned into the walk off Grand Slam, hadn't pitched
for thirty eight days. Wow, that's not five beta Kappa
right there. That your ways pitch after thirty eight Yeah,
in the World Series, basses loaded, Freddie Freeman.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I love watching Cortez's face when he looks up and
he looks to see him when he knew it was gone, oh,
without a doubt down to the bat.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
Just like Dennis Eckersley knew it when Kirk Gibson hit
his home run.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Do you want to promote your show?

Speaker 10 (15:54):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (15:54):
Actually, I'm going to be in Dallas starting Sunday for
Baseball's Winter Meetings. That's where the annual Baseball Convention where
player agents, GMS managers are under one roof for three days.
So I'll be out there. I will oh cool, I
might call you from Clayton Kershaw's backyard.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's great.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
I'm gonna be there Tuesday night with Kershaw. He's invited
me over to the palace.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Is is am I on the moon or? Does Max
Mounsey have a place in Texas? He does, And that's
where the Freddie Freeman dan started.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
Uh, that started here in La.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
It did.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
After there's a phony story out there.

Speaker 9 (16:31):
Well, I mean they they had some uh they have
a foundation celebration every year, and I believe it was
Usher performing and Freddy started that dance and then they
brought it back to the backyard of the months. He's
here in La during the season. But Munsey went to
Baylor University.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yes, I saw him. He was a big stud at Baylor. Sure,
and he goes back man, the team flocks him. Everybody
wants to talk to him and to Conway. You're always
watching everything months he does. I'm a big Monsey fan
and I know that every time in the postgame interviews
he always looks for you and gives you the first citizen.
Thank you you sent me that video. That's right.

Speaker 9 (17:07):
I love it. You're like my dad.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'm into a buddy. But what are you on today
at all? On Kayle?

Speaker 9 (17:13):
I am not on today, okay, but we will have
Dodger talk for you next week from the Winter Meetings.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
All.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
We'd love to talk to you at the Winter Meetings.
I'd love to talk to you, buddy. Thanks for coming in,
Thanks for having guy and stud ding Donk.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm gonna have Lucy Jones on in about ten minutes,
but I'm gonna give you all the background, so we'll
have all the background in us when the premiere information
source of earthquakes in my life has been doctor Lucy
Jones since I was in high school up until today.

(17:52):
She has calmed my nerves dozens of times. She's come
on with us before, and she has saved a lot
of lives. People on the edge. They hate earthquakes. Like
Deborah Mark. One of the things she hates in life,
it's earthquakes and stake, so ding dog with both of those.

(18:14):
But here's the latest on the earthquakes, and we'll talk
to Lucy Jones, Doctor Lucy Jones. But this earthquake huge, huge, huge, huge,
up in northern California, and this is not good. I
think this is a pre shock to the big one.
I hate to say that, but I think everyone feels it.

(18:35):
Nobody's saying it though you don't want to say it,
you don't want to jinx it. But I think we
all know it.

Speaker 11 (18:40):
Governor Gavenue some announced a state of emergency declaration, while
one California state Senator said there were reports of homes
that came off their foundations, in addition to thousands of
people who were without power in Humboldt County. A real
images show a line of vehicles in Pacifica, near San
Francisco as people drove up to higher following a seven

(19:01):
point zero magnitude quake and tsunami warning along the northern
California coast.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
We get up to the top of the mountain up
there on Roberts Road, where I almost looked like at
the sitko was there.

Speaker 11 (19:11):
Governor Gaven Newsom was at the southern border with Mexico,
where he was briefed and announced a state of emergency
declaration shortly after the tsunami alert was lifted.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
We're concerned about damage, particularly in the northern part of
the state in dal nort Mendocino and Humboldt County.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
As a consequence of that, the.

Speaker 11 (19:27):
Quake hit off shore near what's known as the Mendocino
Triple Junction. Were three faults, including the San Andreas meet.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Uh oh, hear that.

Speaker 11 (19:36):
Including the San Andrea's meat.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Anytime you hear San Andreas. Anytime you hear San Andreas,
you start to shiver.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
San Andrea's Oh no, oh, no, San Andrea's meat. The
US Geological Survey says the direction the plates move in
impact the likelihood of a tsunami.

Speaker 12 (19:54):
Because of this strong motion, there was initially concern about
tsunami's but it's very likely that most of the motion
was actually horizontal rather than vertical, which is what.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Tends to cause tsunamis caused by earthquakes. We caught a
break this time, but what about next time? Under the sea.

Speaker 13 (20:11):
Done, there's an earthquake happening.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
Still, residents who could feel the quake were shaken up.
There were dozens of aftershocks that experts say could last
for days or weeks.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
We really took this one serious. We're like, we didn't
know what was going to come from it. But thankful,
everything's gonna be all right.

Speaker 13 (20:29):
Yes, what there's an earthquake happening.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh no, run and cover, then, young.

Speaker 13 (20:34):
Lady, what there's an earthquake happening?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Telling get under the desk.

Speaker 10 (20:39):
We understand.

Speaker 11 (20:39):
President Joe Biden has also been briefed.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
We'll just tell you.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Okay, I'll be down in a minute. I'll throw something
and I'll meet you downstairs.

Speaker 13 (20:47):
Uh done, there's an earthquake happening.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, we understand.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
President Joe Biden has also been briefed on this quake.
Geological experts say that while it's far less frequent, it
is possible that this quake could be a four shock
and for some additional contexts. The largest earthquake in this
area in the last century was a seven point four
in nineteen twenty two.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
All right, but we get a lot of earthquakes, a
lot of them. We average a lot more than you think.
Hundreds of them.

Speaker 14 (21:17):
Every day California experiences and average at two to three
earthquakes each year that are large enough to cause damage
to structures. In the past thirty years, there have been
several notable earthquakes. On January seventeenth, nineteen.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Ninety four, anybody remember that date?

Speaker 14 (21:32):
On January seventeenth, nineteen ninety four US, that's.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
The north Ridge quake. Everyone, if you were here, you'll
remember that day. Remember exactly what you're doing, and most
of what happened after that earthquake. It was long and
it was very scary.

Speaker 14 (21:46):
January seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, a six point seven quake
hit Northridge, killing fifty seven people and causing an estimated
ninety billion dollars in today's dollars and damages. In October
nineteen ninety nine, a seven point one earthquake struck near Ludlow.
In January twenty ten, a six point five quake hit
offshore again near Ferndale.

Speaker 10 (22:07):
And you may.

Speaker 14 (22:08):
Remember the Ridgecresttrono quake in twenty nineteen that damaged at
least one hundred homes again, and then today's quake, which
is again registering at seven point zero hitting.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
Off shore near Ferndale.

Speaker 14 (22:18):
The full extent of damage is still being excessed.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Okay, then they talk about the tsunami before we get
to doctor Lucy Jones. The tsunami and the warning.

Speaker 15 (22:26):
Magnitude seven point zero earthquake struck off the West coast
this afternoon. A tsunami warning that stretched across both California
and Oregon was issued, but that expired about forty five
minutes ago. The quake was felled as far south as
San Francisco, where residents reported.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Feeling a rolling motion. A new video shows the impact
to a pool in the Eureka area. Officials es to
made more than one million people live close enough to
the epicenter to have felt the shaking, and several aftershocks
have also been reported. More than five million people in
California were put under a tsunami warning shortly after the
earth earthquake struck.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, now we're all idiots. The Earth is warning us
that we're about to get whacked. And what do we do?
We all stay, We all still pay our mortgage, we
still go to school, we go to the we go
to the mall, we go to work, We come home,
we sleep, we eat, we jog, we work out, we

(23:22):
do everything we normally do, and the earth is telling
us we're coming. We're coming. There's a big one coming.
And we some of us have earthquake kits. We bought
one recently and put one together recently, so I know
where that is. But other than that, I'm not really
prepared for the big one. I don't think we ever are.

(23:44):
And doctor Lucy Jones said, what will really affect a
lot of people is six months after the earthquake, the
big one, there's going to be very little water for
people to drink, to bathe in the clean to wash
sh anything, to wash your clothes, to shower, very little

(24:04):
water is going to be available. So please go get
a couple at least, you know, four or five, six
ten gallons of water. Put it in the garage so
you're okay for a while. Water water will last, you know,
quite some time, especially if you're bathing in it. I
imagine years we get distilled water. Get some water, put
it in your garage. You'll thank me later.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
You're listening to Tim conwaytunire on demand from KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
There's a seven point zero earthquake off the northern shore
of California, And nobody knows more about earthquakes than doctor
Lucy Jones, and she's with us. Doctor how you.

Speaker 10 (24:44):
By? Okay?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Been a busy day, very busy for you. I heard
you before you make your rounds and you sue a
lot of nerves. Is this a four shock?

Speaker 10 (24:57):
We don't have any way of recognizing that every earthquake
has about the same chance. The fact that we've gone
six hours without anything bigger suggests that it's not. Mostly
they happen within the first day.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Did this relieve some pressure on the San Andrea's fault?

Speaker 10 (25:14):
No? I need a different want a pattern that tells
us that it's either coming or we know that it's
not coming. And every time we just have to say,
every earthquake has about a five percent chance of being
followed by something bigger, and we just have to wait
and find.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Out what's the largest on the on the Richter's scale.
I know you're familiar with that. What's the largest number
that we can expect for the San Andreas? Can it
reach a nine point eight?

Speaker 10 (25:43):
Oh no, no, no. The San Andreas by itself is
probably an absolute maximum like eight point two eight point three.
And you know, being an eight point two instead of
a seven point two, it releases thirty two times more energy.
But if you're right on top of that seven point two,
you're still getting most of the shaking. So what's different

(26:07):
about the biggest earthquakes is they affect a much larger
area and it's the link of the fault that produces that.
If you go north of the Santadreas, north from where
this earthquake happened, you have the Cascadia subduction zone, which
is potentially could give us a magnitude nine. I'm pretty
sure it did it back in seventeen hundred, but that's

(26:30):
that's off of Oregon and Washington rather than here in California,
and it's off shore. So the strongest shaking where people
are is larger in a seven point nine in southern
California than it is on the nine point zero in
northern California.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
What was what was the nineteen ten or earthquake in
San Francisco? How big was that?

Speaker 10 (26:50):
There wasn't one? So at nineteen oh six, yeah, seven
point eight, oh seven point eight, that's bad one. Yes, yes,
it was quite large. The fall it was four hundred
and forty kilometers long for about two hundred and fifty miles,
ran from Cape Menacino south to San Juan Batista, but
basically around Gilroy.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well was that felt in La?

Speaker 10 (27:14):
Yes, it does appear to have been, oh man, and
it also it triggered. There was an aftertot to. It
was a magnitude five in Santa Monica Bay and a
magnitude six in Imperial County. Wow, what happened today? Is
that earthquake?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, doctor Lucy Jones with us, is LA moving towards
San Francisco? Or is San Francisco moving towards La?

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Yes, it's all relative, I have to say. Okay, it
depends on which one you hold down now, but we
are moving towards each other. How about that?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
So in a couple hundred thousand years we'll be right
next to each other.

Speaker 10 (27:50):
It's going to take about five million, five million.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Okay, So we should stop working on the speed train.
We don't need it in five million years exactly. Yes,
do you get you've heard this over the years over
your career. The dogs and cats and birds and animals
have a sixth sense that an earthquake is coming. Do
you believe that.

Speaker 10 (28:10):
What we do have is the human need to make patterns,
and so we're going to hunt for whatever pattern we
can find. Whenever we've been able to control it and
actually test, we never see any reaction, but the one
thing we do have. So the earthquake produces a couple
of different types of waves. The one that travels faster

(28:32):
is a sound wave, and it's not as big as
the second wave, which is a sheer wave that travels
more slowly. So if you're a little distance away from
the earthquake, you might not feel the pea wave, the
first wave because it's died off and it's just not
so sensitive. But you do feel the second one. And

(28:52):
so if the animals respond to the first one and
you don't notice it till the second one, you know,
and the time between know, we'll depend how far away
you are. It's just like thunder and lightning. Okay, but
it's five miles you know, it's five what is it
five seconds per mile on thunder and lightning, it's it's
five miles per second on earthquakes, the P and S waves.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
So it's interesting.

Speaker 10 (29:16):
Yeah, So if it's ten seconds apart, that means that
you're fifty miles away two seconds apart you're ten miles away.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Oh good, okay, okay, that makes sense though the dogs
can sense that the first wave right exactly.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
We have a great family story of our my parents
Doberman during the San Fernando earthquake pretty clearly, and we
lived in Westchester, so we were quite a far away
from the event, and she suddenly jumped up and started
running for my parents' bedroom and the earthquake hit. Well,
the s wave came through while she was still in

(29:51):
the hallway and got thrown up against the side of
the hallway and right at the door to their bedroom,
and she took a huge flying leap and jumped up
on to their waterbed. Wow, as the earthquake came on
through and landed on top of our cat. A memorable
time for my parents.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I think the biggest sort of takeaway from that story
is your parents still had a waterbed.

Speaker 10 (30:16):
It was nineteen seventy one.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Okay, speaking of water, we're going to have a water
problem after the big one.

Speaker 10 (30:28):
We absolutely will. Water pipes break and earthquakes and.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Water pip pipes break in La two or three times
a day.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
Anyway, Yeah, what and now imagine you've made it much
worse and think about all the water breaks that have
been like found in the San Fernando Valley in the
nineteen nineties and two thousands. They actually think that some
of them were small cracks that were formed in the
earthquake and then it took time for the water to
seep out and you know, undermine the ground underneath, and

(30:57):
then the pipes failed. So we do see failing pipes
for ten twenty years after big earthquakes, which are the
small breaks that continue on. And when we modeled it
for the San Andreas, we ended up estimating it was
going to take six months to get water back into
all the house back to that earthquake. Because so because
it's affects such a large area, that extra long fault

(31:19):
means so many more people exposed to this and it
actually comes out being the single biggest source of financial
loss in the earthquake. There's all the direct losses from it,
the water damage, the businesses that can't reopen because they
you mean, because there's no water coming in the pipes,
and the inability to fight fires causing more destruction.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh my god. So in your earth in your earthquake kit,
you should have at least a two, three, four week
supply of water.

Speaker 10 (31:48):
Whatever you can have. You know how very much you've
been storing. Why didn't you have some more?

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Okay? All right? And doctor Jones, I'm not saying you're
addicted to cigarettes or vodka, but if somebody was, doesn't
it makes sense to throw a carton into the earthquake kit.

Speaker 10 (32:04):
Or just always have an extra cart and so you
keep them fresh.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's like we're doing radio in the nineteen forties. I
gotta have that extra carton. Make sure you got the
fresh sigarettes. Also, how long will the big one last?

Speaker 10 (32:22):
A couple of minutes. So the earthquake begins in an epicenter,
but it becomes a big earthquake by traveling down a
long fault. And as it just like ripping a piece
of paper, you don't rip it all at once. You
start at one edge and tear across, and it releases
energy all the time it's tearing across, and it moves
up the fault at two miles a second. So if

(32:43):
the fault is two hundred miles long, which is what
we modeled for a seven point eight here in southern California,
that's one hundred seconds and.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
One hundred seconds of radical shaking.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
Not necessarily right, because if it's two hundred miles long,
even if you're right on top of the fault in
the middle, some of it's coming at you from one
hundred miles away and therefore not so extreme, right. But
we again we did the modeling. You also can get
REAVERB basically going on because we're to the sediments bounce
the waves back and forth, and so places where it's

(33:17):
a deep bowl of sediment, like downtown Los Angeles or
Santa Monica, those areas we modeled about fifty seconds of
really strong shaking.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Oh my god, Okay, we'll move out of those areas.
I was watching MSNBC today and they blamed this earthquake
off the coast of California this morning or earlier today
on Donald Trump. Is there any connection to.

Speaker 10 (33:39):
That the human need for patterns that make us feel
safer or justified.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay, doctor, I really appreciate you coming on. I know
you're busy. This is one of your This is the
super Bowl for you today or at least of the playoffs,
and we really appreciate that. Okay, it's the playoffs, but
really appreciate it. I can't tell you how much our audio.
When you come on after an earthquake, you sue a
lot of people, and and I and I and I
and again, you have no idea how many people are

(34:08):
gonna go bet to bed tonight after hearing your voice
and sleep a little better.

Speaker 10 (34:14):
Thanks for saying that.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's a true story. Yes, thank you, And hopefully we're
not going to have you on again for the next
couple of years. You know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (34:24):
Life.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, all right, thank you, doctor, I appreciate it. Thank you,
all right, doctor Lucy Jones Man. She's the best since
I don't know, maybe nineteen eighty or so in uh
in high school, listening to her after every big quake,
and she does help us survive. She just does. I
don't know how she does it, the calmness of her voice,

(34:47):
the facts. Maybe she'll tell us that, you know, none
of us know anybody who's ever been killed in a quake.
Very few of us know anybody who's ever been hurting
a quake. Yet we have a Paranoi about him. It
just doesn't quick. We are live. We'll come back and
talk more about the about the United Healthcare and the
CEO that was shot. We've got more information that's just

(35:07):
come in some clues on the suspect. You'll want to
hear this one come back Conway show on demand on
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