December 10, 2024 • 33 mins
Malibu fire, Pepperdine University students sheltered in place. Latest on Luigi Mangione, suspect in the murder of UHC CEO Brian Thompson // FBI Profiler on Luigi Mangione possible motive and the ghost gun made on 3D printer. Social media empathizes with Luigi Mangione—chasing a hero // Wind warning for the Inland Empire / Mangione mother had filing missing person in San Francisco 2weeks ago. Mangione is fighting extradition // Red flag warning across Southern California as Santa Ana winds present dangerous fire conditions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. What a
day in Southern California. It's mid December, It's December tenth,
and yet we have Malibu on fire. That's not good.
I mean, I understand if it's June, July, August, early September,
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maybe by two weeks before Christmas, and the kids at
Pepperdine are taking shelter and that you know, Pepperdine has
a huge, huge lawn that surrounds the front of it
and the east side of it, and it's a great
barrier for these fires because that lawn is probably I
don't know, maybe two hundred yards between the foliage and
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the trees and the buildings of Pepperdine. And they've done
an unbelievable job keeping that, you know, that defensive space
around that university. But even the library. When we were
watching live footage last night, these fires came right up
to the library windows. And so it's very scary for
these kids, you know, because a lot of these kids
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are without their mom and dad for the first time
in their.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Life, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
When and second, you used to talk about this all
the time when you're young and you hear you know, thunder,
you see lightning, or if you hear you know, the wind,
a tree banging against the house, or god forbid, somebody
trying to break in the house. What is your initial
instinct when you're a child, you run to mom and dad, right,
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and you have that growing up, and you have that comfort,
you have that sort of you know, that comfort blanket
of whenever there's emergency, mom and dad will take care
of it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, a lot of these kids, you know, they're eighteen,
nineteen years old, twenty years old, and they've left home
for the first time. And while they have to show
a brave face in front of their fellow students, their
natural instate, their entire life has been mom and dad,
mom and dad, and mom and dad aren't around and
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so for the first time in a lot of their lives,
they have to take care of themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's a great.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Experience for them, you know, to try to handle this
themselves without panicking. And I've told my daughter the two
things I've instilled my daughter. Everything else in my daughter's
life that is great comes from her mom. But the
two things I instilled in her was beyond time. Never
be late for anything anything. It's rude to be late,
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extremely rude to be late. To slap in the face
if you're late. And number two, don't panic, don't panic.
And the third one I'm working on and I'm about
ninety percent there.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Enthusiasm. Enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Enthusiasm goes a long way in life, a long way.
We've hired people in on this show because of their enthusiasm.
And I don't think anybody was more enthusiastic when he
started on the show than Steph Fush.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Steph Fush was thrilled to be here.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Now he's been here for like three or four years,
he's uh, you know, he's you know, looking at his
watch every once in a while, but.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's still very enthusiastic. Steph Fush.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Whenever we do a live remote or anything, he's loved
the enthusiasm. All right, Liz, thank you. That's true, true story,
true strat story. And Stephan, you got this job by
applying online. It was a job opening up and opening
and you applied.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I did. Yeah, And you're also very enthusiastic about the
Woody Show. That's true too.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, thig dom with you, all right, let's talk about
this guy. This Luigi Mangionime, twenty six years old, and
he's the guy who allegedly killed Brian Thompson in the
streets of New York. We've all heard about this, the
United Healthcare ceo.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
We have about three or four different piece of audio here.
Let's get the latest and see what he's charged with here,
and then we'll talk about the new details. Actually, let's
start with the new details about this kid and his
personal life. Everybody wants to know what's going on with
this guy. Everybody, because this is a news.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Twenty six year old Luigi men in custody in Pennsylvania,
charged with first degree murder. He's believed to be the
gunman who last week assassinated Brian Thompson, the CEO of
United Healthcare, in New York City. The nationwide manhunt coming
to an end at a McDonald's in Altoona. A woman
recognized Mangionian called police.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
As soon as we pulled that down, or we asked
him to pull it down.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Were talking his face masks. They asked them to pull
his face mass down. They said, have you been in
New York recently? And he started shaking, visibly shaking me.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
And my partner, and I recognized him immediately.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
He had asked the suspect if he had been in
New York City recently, and that really invoked a physical
reaction from the suspect.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
He became visibly nervous, kind of shaking at that question.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
When he was arrested police a MANGIONI had this ghost
gun that may have been made with a three D
printer similar to the weapon used to kill Thompson, along
with a silencer known as a suppressor.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You know, what's a really sad. I mean if you
think about this his last meal. This kid may never
see freedom again ever in his life. There's a big
case they want to make an example out of him.
He may never get out of jail ever or prison.
And his last meal hash browns and McDonald's alone. Hash browns,
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that hash brown patty. It looks like sort of a
egg shape in that little paper sleeve. Kind of good
eating if you can get it hot. The key to
that hash browns heat heat.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
He also had clothing and a mask consistent with the shooters,
a passport and multiple fake IDs, including this one used
to check into a hostel in New York City, where
his unmasked face was captured on surveillance video.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
The class of twenty sixteen has been coming up with
new ideas.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Mangioni grew up in Maryland, where he was valedictorian of
his high school and has a bachelor's and masters in
engineering from the University of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, not a dumb kid. Not a dumb kid, dopey
kid walking around killing people. Very smart kid, and this
is a this is a new level of violence in
this country. That it's not just people who are down
and out, people who have nothing to lose. This kid
had at everything in front of him. He could have
been hired almost anywhere. Uh, you know, finishing number one
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in your high school in a private, forty thousand dollars
year high school, then going on to get his bachelor
it's his masters. He could have been hired anywhere, and
he decided to take a different route in life.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So why would someone like this apparently turn to murder?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's the big question, that's the great question. Great question.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So why would someone like this apparently turn to murder?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Let's find out.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, police say when they arrested Mangioni, they found three
hand rats in pages that police sources tell ABC News
express anger at the insurance industry that included the quotes.
These parasites had it coming. And I do apologize for
any strife and trauma, but it had to be done.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
It does seem that he has some some ill will
toward corporate America.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Some possible clues may be found on Mangiona's Twitter account,
which shows an X ray of a surgically repaired spine.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Those who knew, yeah, I guess this kid. This kid
was in a tremendous amount of pain. He had some
kind of accident and that screwed.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Up his back.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He has four or five screws in the lower part
of his back and he's bedridden sometimes for four or
five days in a row, in tremendous pain.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Those who knew him say he suffered a back injury
surfing and needed surgery, but still suffered from the injury.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
And I know it was really traumatic and difficult. You know,
when you're in the early twenties and you can't, you know,
do some basic things, it can be really really difficult.
Never once talked about guns, never once talked about violence.
He was absolutely a not violent person. As far as
I could tell.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Okay, so a smart kid.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Let's find out from a former FBI official who weighs
in on the empathy online. There's a lot of empathy
and sympathy for this kid online.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
I want to turn now, do Ends News analyst Frank
fink Losey, former Assistant director for counter Intelligence at the FBI. Frank,
We're starting to see a clearer picture now of this suspect.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So initially Mangione did not seem to fit the profile
of a cold blooded killer, but as the picture starts
to gel and come together, we're seeing what I would
call an activist killer. An ideology is driving his violence,
and we'll learn more about that as this goes on.
We're still looking, of course, for that direct connection between
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Mangoni and United Healthcare, but as we gather more intel,
it looks like there may have been some back surgery.
We don't know if that's connected to the beef that
he seems to have with a wide healthcare industry. He's
written about it, he's read about it, he's read the
bomber's manifesto, and he's aligned himself with the idea that
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it's sometimes ethical to murder somebody.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
All right, we have a whole new set of circumstances now.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
That it's sometimes ethical to murder somebody.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's a new low in this country where we decide
that protesting isn't enough, boycotting isn't enough, and you've had it,
and now you're going to take the third step of
taking turning to violence and taking matters into your own hands.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's sometimes ethical to murder somebody.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
What do you make he was caught with a weapon
that was printed on a three D printer?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
What do you make of that piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We'll talk about that and some more information on Luigi Mangioni,
twenty six years old. He is going to be tried
for the murder of Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare.
Speaker 10 (09:56):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from AFI
A six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Let's get back to this kid, this Luigi Mangioni, and
he's been arrested for the murder of Brian Thompson in
the streets of New York, who was the CEO of
United Healthcare. And he was caught with a three D
printed gun let's find out a little more about this
kid and this gun going on.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
What do you make he was caught with a weapon
that was printed on a three D printer.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
What do you make of that piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So I'm really using this opportunity to make people more
aware of the problem of ghost guns. Number one, and
answer to your question, this is a young man who
really didn't think through fleeing. He made it to Altoona, Pennsylvania,
and then decided to have lunch or breakfast. That's not
somebody who really had the plan to keep going. Was
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he looking for another target? What's the story there? And
then with regard to the ghost gun, look a federal violation,
a state violation. They used that to grab and detain him.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
The guy still had the gun on him. How dumb
is that?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This has got to be the dumbest smart kid in
America in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
But the problem in our society is those ghost guns
are turning up more and more at the scene of
violent crimes. They can't be traced. You can make them
on a three D printer very easily. It's a problem.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
What do you think was the break in this case?
I mean, it seems once again, the public is indispensable.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I'm a huge fan of crowdsourcing crime solving these days.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I remember, way back.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
In my FBI career, we'd agonize over the decision to
share information with the public. Don't agonize anymore, get it
out there. That's what broke this case, the video surveillance
and the interesting contrast right with our high tech forensics
and sophistication DNA.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, I'm surprised anybody gets aware with anything nowadays. Everything
is on videotape.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Back in the day, you could get away with, you know,
cheating on your spouse. Now everything is on camera everywhere
you go. Everywhere you're going to cheat on your wife
for your husband, you're on camera somewhere. I remember we
followed a police chase, I think Krozier, I think you
were on the show back then where we followed a
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police chase into up until the dark streets near Dodger Stadium,
and the chase ended right next to a guy making
out with his mistress in a car.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
Oh yes, yes, but look at the end of the
cul de sac or whatever, right, yeah, exactly right, Yeah,
in a dead end cul de sac right there.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Which is redundant.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Tim thank you, And he was and all the helicopters
Channel two, four, five, eleven, nine seven, everybody on this
guy and he pops out of the car just because
he happens to be in the area. And it turns
out he was having sex with brown somebody probably shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And he was on TV. He was on television doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
But any everywhere is you're on camera doing everything, and
it's only going to get more and more and more
as more people can afford it. As these cameras become
cheaper and cheaper, you're going to be on camera everywhere
you go. Plus there's a tremendous footprint with your cell phone.
They can tell where you are, where you've been. I
don't know how anybody gets with crime anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Nobody fingerprintings, scuba teams and what solved this just putting
out a photo of a guy.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
And Frank Lastly, what do you make of the online
kind of empathy for this killer?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
There's been a lot of talk of that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, this is a great area.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What do you make about the empathy the sympathy for
this kid online. There's a lot of people who are
supporting this kid on social media.
Speaker 12 (13:39):
Yeah, a couple of things.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
We're all really getting the deep sense that people all
have horror stories about their insurance.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
But here's the issue.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
A corporate security executives who I'm in touch with, they
say this is a wake up call for them, and
they're CEOs who are saying, yeah, I didn't want security,
but now I do. The other concern that had developed
amongst detectives was are we chasing a hero?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, now see this went a different direction where this
guy who is an ex FBI agent, this is what
he said.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
They say, this is a wake up call for them.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, when people hear that, oh, it's a wake up
call for them. Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So the CEOs are going to treat people better, They're
going to pay out more claims, they're going to be
more sympathetic to people who are injured.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Or in pain. No, no, no, no, they're going to
get more security.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
And they're CEOs who are saying, yeah, I didn't want security,
but now I do.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They need security now.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
The other concern that had developed amongst the tectives was
are we chasing a hero? Is the public going to
help us if they align with him? And thank goodness,
the answer, at least for the McDonald's employees, was they
were doing the right thing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know, not only are people there's a lot of
sympathy for this Luigi Mangoni out there, but there are
a lot of people attacking McDonald's for turning this kid in.
The McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. They had a boatload of
negative reviews because somebody at that McDonald's turned this kid
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in and is as pissed as you are at your
insurance company, and as angry as you are about maybe
your health insurance or your home insurance or car insurance,
and you've been screwed over in your mind, and maybe
you have been by your insurance company. This is not
the time to post sympathetic messages on social media, especially
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if you're young, because that can come back to haunt
you ten twenty thirty years from now. If you post
something where this CEO deserved it and he should have
been killed and you believe that this Luigi Mangoni was
in the right, This lives on social media forever. And
so if you're a parent and you have a kid
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who's twelve, thirteen, fourteen, and they want to post something
supporting this kid. As a parent, you've got to sit
that kid down and say, look, I know how angry
you are, but you know because of what happened with
Grandma and her health insurance at the end, but you've
got to look out for your future. And as pissed
off as you are about your insurance company or your
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battle with an insurance company, you cannot put social media
messages out there and sympathize with this kid because I
would guess that eighty eighty five percent of jobs in
America are corporate America. And if corporate America, you're going
to look for a job and they see that ten
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years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago you thought
that this Brian Thompson should have been killed. You're not
going to get that job, and you're going to find
very difficult to find any job because that'll be passed around.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So as angry as you are, I get it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We've had some battles with insurance companies when my mom
passed away, and I was angry as hell, furious, But
you've got to somehow internalize it and control it, and
if you don't, then put it out on social media.
But I'm warning you it's going to reduce your chances
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later on in life to pursue whatever your dreams are.
You know, professionally, it's going to have an effect, so
be careful what you post online about this situation. All right,
we're gonna come back and play some more, including an update.
What is this kid charged with? And we had an
update that came in about twenty minutes ago, so we'll
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have a full update on Luigi Mangioni and what's going
on with this kid. We're live on KFI A six
forty plus. We have a wind warning for the Inland Empire,
win warning for the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
We'll get to that as well.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And at six o'clock in thirty two minutes from now,
thirty one minutes from now, a schedule press conference on
the fire in Malibu, So we get a lot to
cover between now and seven o'clock when Mo Kelly takes over.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
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six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Let's find out more about this Luigia mangone. We have
two updates. Some of this information might overlap. We have
two updates, one just after four o'clock from ABC News.
We'll take that one and then we'll Eric Leonard had
a terrific piece on this kid as well. He's the
kid who's going to be charged with murder Brian Thompson,
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the CEO in New York that was murdered one week
ago tomorrow on the streets in New York. If you
can believe it's only been a week and they've got
their guy, all right, Here are a couple updates on
Luigi Mangoni.
Speaker 13 (18:41):
When police arrived and asked Manjoni if he had recently
visited New York City, he became quiet.
Speaker 14 (18:46):
He became visibly nervous, kind of shaking at that question,
and he didn't really answer it directly.
Speaker 13 (18:53):
A confidential NYPD assessment obtained by ABC News says Manjoni
considered the targeted killing of Thompson to be a symbolic
takedown of United Healthcare over perceived corruption. Manjoni likely views
himself as a hero of sorts who has finally decided
to act upon such injustices. ABC News also obtained a
copy of the alleged killer's handwritten screed. It says these
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parasites simply had it coming.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Specifically, he states how we are the number one most
expensive healthcare system in the world. Yet the life expectancy
of an American is ranked forty two in the world.
So he was writing a lot about his disdainful corporate
America and in particular, healthcare industry.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
But even as police dig into a motive, there are
still questions about how a young man from a prominent family,
the valedictorian at his elite prep school, and an Ivy
League graduate, could be transformed into an accused killer. We
asked his former roommate in Hawaii, who said Manngoni struggled
with a back injury.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
He did let me know that the severity of his
back issue is such that it was very difficult to.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Have coal.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Relationships with women, that it made.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Things painful.
Speaker 13 (20:08):
On social media, police see he posted an X ray
of a spine and wrote about back pains, sciatica and
brain fog, saying it's absolutely brutal to have such a
life threatening issue. For a number of months, Manzoni had
been out of touch with his family, and sources say
his mother filed a missing person's report in San Francisco
two weeks before Brian Thompson's murder.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And by the way, this family is loaded, they owned
two private clubs, they own healthcare facilities, they own a
radio station. This family has got money, and and I
had to send this kid to a school Hillman Private
School in Baltimore at forty thousand dollars a year, forty
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grand a year.
Speaker 13 (20:49):
For high school. Manzoni's case has become a cause, with
admirers posting videos like this on Instagram. A social media
profile gained hundreds of thousands of followers after his arrest,
and the police department that arrested Manzoni has been threatened.
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is disgusted.
Speaker 15 (21:10):
I understand people have real frustration with our healthcare system.
This killer is being hailed as a hero. Hear me
on this. He is no hero, all right. That is
the Democrat that runs Pennsylvania. And that is a strong message,
all right. Here is a piece done by Eric Leonard
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over at NBC News. Eric used to work here at
KFI for quite some time, and then he left radio
to a slum it over in TV.
Speaker 16 (21:40):
And here he is twenty six year old Luigi Mangioni
struggled with police a bit and yelled towards reporters as
he was brought to a courthouse in Pennsylvania in shackles.
During a brief hearing today, his defense lawyer told the
judge they will not agree to extradition to New York
on the murder charge, which will delay the criminal case
against him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Really a dumb thing to do, because if you delay extradition,
you also delay how many days that you've served in jail.
They don't the clock doesn't start ticking until you get
to New York, so it's just a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's gonna take thirty to forty five days.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They'll get him to New York eventually, but it's just
a stall tastic, it's attacktic. It really doesn't make much sense.
Speaker 16 (22:26):
Luigi Mangioni yelling something about abduction towards reporters as he
was led out of a police car and into a
courtroom in Pennsylvania, and there were no cameras inside the
courtroom where Mangioni was advised of the murder charges in
neighboring New York State. Mangioni did not agree to waive extradition,
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which means a more formal arrest warrant will need to
be drafted.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Mangioni may try to challenge the validity.
Speaker 16 (22:56):
Of the charges against him, and a judge will have
to rule on whether or not he should be sent
to New York.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
All of that could take weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Contesting it, you know, just provides more hoops for law
enforcement prosecutors to jump through, who we're happy to do that.
Speaker 16 (23:10):
He'll be held with no bail while that takes place.
Mangioni's defense lawyer said after the hearing that he hasn't
seen charges from New York and says he hasn't seen
any evidence Mangioni is tied to the murder.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Fundamental Wait a minute, what.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Mangioni is tied to the murder?
Speaker 16 (23:27):
He saw no evidence and says he hasn't seen any
evidence Mangioni is tied to the murder.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I've seen evidence, and I just I'm living in Burbank,
I'm twenty seven hundred miles.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
He said that with his eyes closed, he must.
Speaker 11 (23:41):
Have the fundamental concept of American justice as a resumption
of innocent and until you're proven guilty, be on the
resort of that.
Speaker 12 (23:48):
And I've seen zero evidence of dispoint.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Really zero evidence, okay, zero evidence of disapoint zero all right, Okay.
Speaker 16 (23:57):
Last night, prosecutors in Manhattan filed weapons and false identification charges,
accusing Mangioni of being the masked, hooded gunman who executed
United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson on a sidewalk last week.
Police say the widespread distribution of wanted flyers and photos
led to a tip from a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania,
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where Mangioni was arrested yesterday. He was allegedly carrying a
three D printed ghost gun, nine millimeters pistol, a suppressor,
fake IDs, and a three page note that authorities say
expressed ill will towards corporate America.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You know, that booth or that chair that he was
sitting in is going to be It's going to explode
on social media. Everyone's going to want to get a
picture of themselves sitting there eating the same thing, you know,
one of those hash browns, and take a picture and
post it online.
Speaker 16 (24:49):
Mangioni last lived in Honolulu before Friends and neighbors say
they lost contact about six months ago. The Manhattan District
Attorney's office says it will seek a governor's warrant, which
is now needed for this extradition from Pennsylvania. Mangioni was
initially charged in Pennsylvania yesterday with a legal gun possession
and having false IDs, So that case will now take
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a backseat to the New York case, meaning it won't
be dropped and could be pursued whenever that murder case
has concluded. Live in the newsroom, I'm investigative reporter Eric
Leonard and NAC four News.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Back you Nerd with NBC four News. Great job. All right,
well we get back. We're gonna top of the wind
in the Inland Empire. And then at six o'clock a
scheduled press conference for the Franklin fire. That's the Malibu fire,
So we got a lot to get to before seven
o'clock when Mo Kelly takes over.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The wind is going to continue Inland Empire, bracing for
the wind. And according to La Times, this is not us.
According to the La Times, this is the number one
show in the Inland Empire. From Krozier to Marongo, from
Lake elsonor to Big Bear. The Empire has voted this
program numero uno. So thank you to everybody who lives
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in the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Crouser.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You don't consider yourself an inland empire your feet away
from it?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I were you an inland empire? Guy?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I do?
Speaker 11 (26:13):
Okay, you're you're You're right at the edge of La
County about one hundred foot outside my door. Is the
line yet?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Is that right? And what is the county? Sand Bornandino?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yes, sir, Wow, so Sambridino goes from one hundred feet
outside your door to Parker, Arizona.
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Wow one in county?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Huge, huge. I didn't know. I didn't notice this. Are
you growing a mustache?
Speaker 12 (26:41):
A little thing going on?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I didn't notice that buddy had still just now, wow,
how long have you been doing that?
Speaker 12 (26:46):
About six months? As long as Steph.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I didn't notice. I know it's Steph.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I noticed step but I didn't notice that crozers growing
one looks like Bellio's got one working toombs.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh sorry, so rude.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I know, I know, I know, all right, inland empire
winds they're bracing for wigs.
Speaker 17 (27:08):
We'll definitely tell you this. If you didn't have your
patio furniture secured or your Christmas decorations secured, they were
definitely flying through the air here in the Inland Empire.
But the biggest concern wasn't the so much cooler temperatures.
It was today's fire threat from these heavy winds.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, the winds are crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
About seven years ago, Nil Sevadra, who was the Fork Report.
He's also with Bill Handle every day. He was very kind.
He gave me a nice, beautiful drone for my birthday
one year. Totally unexpected, beautiful gift.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And why didn't you tell the other part of.
Speaker 12 (27:45):
That m that you opened it before it was given
to you?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, I sort of, Yeah, I forgot that part of it.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
Yeah, I forgot that part of it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So I lived in Burbank at the time, off of Cordela,
which is near Hollywood Way and Magnolia, and I took
it outside.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It was windy that day.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I probably shouldn't have done this, but I took it
outside and wanted to take it on a test run,
so I didn't know how to operate it. I pressed
one button, it went straight up about one hundred feet
and then last time I saw it was going towards
Burbank Airport. Never saw it again. I literally flew it
for about nine seconds. I saw it go up for
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about five seconds I saw it go north west for
about four seconds and never saw it again.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Never saw it again. Wow, no idea. You know, Neil,
I've done Neil fifteen years. Oh that's no, fifteen years
and he.
Speaker 12 (28:46):
Thirty.
Speaker 18 (28:47):
Never gotten anything, but he uh yeah, that was a
nice gift. That was a nice gift.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
Yeah, disappeared.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But he's a like a professional at the drones.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
When when the drones thing first started really hitting and
we needed to we explore the idea of having having
people here, especially in the news department, trained in drones
and stuff like that, Neil was Neil and Steve Gregor
were the first ones to jump on board and get
license and do all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah. I wonder why they didn't invite me. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm not that good with drones. I guess the experience
all right. Inland Empire bracing for these winds.
Speaker 17 (29:29):
Santa Anna Wins returned to the Inland Empire along with
extreme fire danger. On Monday, a public safe dealer was
sent out to residents and visitors across the area under
the red flag warning.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
We got a text on our phone saying that it
might be like a warning for fires, but we do
get a lot of those warnings when the winds come.
Speaker 17 (29:47):
Estella Munios and Alisa Mora drove in from Upland to
Fontana this morning.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh what a crew drove in from Upland to.
Speaker 17 (29:55):
Fontana this morning, describing the morning commute as downright and settling.
The strong winds made their usual drive feel a bit dangerous.
Speaker 18 (30:03):
Drove over here on the fifteen and yeah, I didn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I wanted to take I should have took the streets.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Windy, but it wasn't this windy.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I feel like it does get wild out there. The
winds in the Inland Empire. They come right out of
the desert, right down the fifteen. It's like a big
bowling alley.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
Yeah, we're talking about that yesterday. It's like, right, did
that go home? Pass?
Speaker 13 (30:20):
Man?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
It just comes that wind comes pushing through.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I remember coming home from Vegas during a particularly tough
sana Ana event, and we were driving south on the
fifteen freeway. We were going about fifty miles an hour
and you put your hand out the window. There's nothing
because the wind was going fifty miles an hour from
behind us. So you literally, because we were going fifty
in our car, you could put your hand out the
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window and not feel anything.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It was odd.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Odd, Yeah, because we were going the same speed as
the wind. It was crazy, crazy.
Speaker 16 (30:51):
Well, we were sitting in our car on our break
and we could feel like our whole car like swaying.
Speaker 17 (30:55):
These powerful winds, combined with low humidity and bone dry vegetation,
have fire officials on high alert. The San Bernandino County
Fire Department has ramped up its resources by deploying extra personnel,
additional engines, and crews to handle the fire threat.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
You know, I always thought about this as a kid,
and as George Carlin said, this probably kept me out
of good schools. But if you had a flatbed and
you had a pitcher who could throw ninety miles an hour,
and the car was moving at ninety miles an hour
and he threw the pitch backwards at ninety miles an hour,
would it just bounce straight up and down because it
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offset the speed.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't know, but again, kept me out of pretty
good schools.
Speaker 14 (31:39):
We're not so concerned with the high temperatures because it's
not very warm out, but the wins have been very problematic.
Speaker 17 (31:44):
Fire officials are urging everyone to be extra cautious and
avoid outdoor activity that could spark a fire.
Speaker 14 (31:50):
Obviously no outside fires.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, but I think that's three hundred and sixty five
days a year.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Good advice. Listen to this advice.
Speaker 17 (31:57):
Again, everyone to be extra cautious.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Okay, and be extra cautious, and not just for fire season.
This should be a rule of thumb for everybody in California.
Speaker 17 (32:05):
And avoid outdoor activity that could spark a fire.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yes, yes, not just now all the time.
Speaker 14 (32:13):
Another thing they can do, if you're towing and you
have chains, make sure those chains aren't dragging and causing sparks.
Those sparks can light fuels on fire on the side
of the road. So just be safe and have a
heightened level of awareness during these red flag warnings, and.
Speaker 17 (32:24):
Fire officials say also to have a plan and be
prepared should they call for evacuations in those fire areas.
And that includes just having your important papers and your
pets available.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That's right, get those pets, make those pets available as well.
All right, when we come back, we're going to try
to get this press conference. It's scheduled for six pm
for the Franklin fire, that's the Malibu fire. So as
soon as that happens, we will break in and bring
you that press conference live right here on KFI AM
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It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. What a
day in Southern California. It's mid December, It's December tenth,
and yet we have Malibu on fire. That's not good.
I mean, I understand if it's June, July, August, early September,
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maybe by two weeks before Christmas, and the kids at
Pepperdine are taking shelter and that you know, Pepperdine has
a huge, huge lawn that surrounds the front of it
and the east side of it, and it's a great
barrier for these fires because that lawn is probably I
don't know, maybe two hundred yards between the foliage and
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the trees and the buildings of Pepperdine. And they've done
an unbelievable job keeping that, you know, that defensive space
around that university. But even the library. When we were
watching live footage last night, these fires came right up
to the library windows. And so it's very scary for
these kids, you know, because a lot of these kids
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are without their mom and dad for the first time
in their.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Life, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
When and second, you used to talk about this all
the time when you're young and you hear you know, thunder,
you see lightning, or if you hear you know, the wind,
a tree banging against the house, or god forbid, somebody
trying to break in the house. What is your initial
instinct when you're a child, you run to mom and dad, right,
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and you have that growing up, and you have that comfort,
you have that sort of you know, that comfort blanket
of whenever there's emergency, mom and dad will take care
of it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, a lot of these kids, you know, they're eighteen,
nineteen years old, twenty years old, and they've left home
for the first time. And while they have to show
a brave face in front of their fellow students, their
natural instate, their entire life has been mom and dad,
mom and dad, and mom and dad aren't around and
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so for the first time in a lot of their lives,
they have to take care of themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's a great.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Experience for them, you know, to try to handle this
themselves without panicking. And I've told my daughter the two
things I've instilled my daughter. Everything else in my daughter's
life that is great comes from her mom. But the
two things I instilled in her was beyond time. Never
be late for anything anything. It's rude to be late,
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extremely rude to be late. To slap in the face
if you're late. And number two, don't panic, don't panic.
And the third one I'm working on and I'm about
ninety percent there.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Enthusiasm. Enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Enthusiasm goes a long way in life, a long way.
We've hired people in on this show because of their enthusiasm.
And I don't think anybody was more enthusiastic when he
started on the show than Steph Fush.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Steph Fush was thrilled to be here.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Now he's been here for like three or four years,
he's uh, you know, he's you know, looking at his
watch every once in a while, but.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's still very enthusiastic. Steph Fush.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Whenever we do a live remote or anything, he's loved
the enthusiasm. All right, Liz, thank you. That's true, true story,
true strat story. And Stephan, you got this job by
applying online. It was a job opening up and opening
and you applied.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I did. Yeah, And you're also very enthusiastic about the
Woody Show. That's true too.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, thig dom with you, all right, let's talk about
this guy. This Luigi Mangionime, twenty six years old, and
he's the guy who allegedly killed Brian Thompson in the
streets of New York. We've all heard about this, the
United Healthcare ceo.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
We have about three or four different piece of audio here.
Let's get the latest and see what he's charged with here,
and then we'll talk about the new details. Actually, let's
start with the new details about this kid and his
personal life. Everybody wants to know what's going on with
this guy. Everybody, because this is a news.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Twenty six year old Luigi men in custody in Pennsylvania,
charged with first degree murder. He's believed to be the
gunman who last week assassinated Brian Thompson, the CEO of
United Healthcare, in New York City. The nationwide manhunt coming
to an end at a McDonald's in Altoona. A woman
recognized Mangionian called police.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
As soon as we pulled that down, or we asked
him to pull it down.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Were talking his face masks. They asked them to pull
his face mass down. They said, have you been in
New York recently? And he started shaking, visibly shaking me.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
And my partner, and I recognized him immediately.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
He had asked the suspect if he had been in
New York City recently, and that really invoked a physical
reaction from the suspect.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
He became visibly nervous, kind of shaking at that question.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
When he was arrested police a MANGIONI had this ghost
gun that may have been made with a three D
printer similar to the weapon used to kill Thompson, along
with a silencer known as a suppressor.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You know, what's a really sad. I mean if you
think about this his last meal. This kid may never
see freedom again ever in his life. There's a big
case they want to make an example out of him.
He may never get out of jail ever or prison.
And his last meal hash browns and McDonald's alone. Hash browns,
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that hash brown patty. It looks like sort of a
egg shape in that little paper sleeve. Kind of good
eating if you can get it hot. The key to
that hash browns heat heat.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
He also had clothing and a mask consistent with the shooters,
a passport and multiple fake IDs, including this one used
to check into a hostel in New York City, where
his unmasked face was captured on surveillance video.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
The class of twenty sixteen has been coming up with
new ideas.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Mangioni grew up in Maryland, where he was valedictorian of
his high school and has a bachelor's and masters in
engineering from the University of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, not a dumb kid. Not a dumb kid, dopey
kid walking around killing people. Very smart kid, and this
is a this is a new level of violence in
this country. That it's not just people who are down
and out, people who have nothing to lose. This kid
had at everything in front of him. He could have
been hired almost anywhere. Uh, you know, finishing number one
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in your high school in a private, forty thousand dollars
year high school, then going on to get his bachelor
it's his masters. He could have been hired anywhere, and
he decided to take a different route in life.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So why would someone like this apparently turn to murder?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's the big question, that's the great question. Great question.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So why would someone like this apparently turn to murder?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Let's find out.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, police say when they arrested Mangioni, they found three
hand rats in pages that police sources tell ABC News
express anger at the insurance industry that included the quotes.
These parasites had it coming. And I do apologize for
any strife and trauma, but it had to be done.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
It does seem that he has some some ill will
toward corporate America.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Some possible clues may be found on Mangiona's Twitter account,
which shows an X ray of a surgically repaired spine.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Those who knew, yeah, I guess this kid. This kid
was in a tremendous amount of pain. He had some
kind of accident and that screwed.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Up his back.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He has four or five screws in the lower part
of his back and he's bedridden sometimes for four or
five days in a row, in tremendous pain.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Those who knew him say he suffered a back injury
surfing and needed surgery, but still suffered from the injury.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
And I know it was really traumatic and difficult. You know,
when you're in the early twenties and you can't, you know,
do some basic things, it can be really really difficult.
Never once talked about guns, never once talked about violence.
He was absolutely a not violent person. As far as
I could tell.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Okay, so a smart kid.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Let's find out from a former FBI official who weighs
in on the empathy online. There's a lot of empathy
and sympathy for this kid online.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
I want to turn now, do Ends News analyst Frank
fink Losey, former Assistant director for counter Intelligence at the FBI. Frank,
We're starting to see a clearer picture now of this suspect.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So initially Mangione did not seem to fit the profile
of a cold blooded killer, but as the picture starts
to gel and come together, we're seeing what I would
call an activist killer. An ideology is driving his violence,
and we'll learn more about that as this goes on.
We're still looking, of course, for that direct connection between
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Mangoni and United Healthcare, but as we gather more intel,
it looks like there may have been some back surgery.
We don't know if that's connected to the beef that
he seems to have with a wide healthcare industry. He's
written about it, he's read about it, he's read the
bomber's manifesto, and he's aligned himself with the idea that
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it's sometimes ethical to murder somebody.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
All right, we have a whole new set of circumstances now.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
That it's sometimes ethical to murder somebody.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's a new low in this country where we decide
that protesting isn't enough, boycotting isn't enough, and you've had it,
and now you're going to take the third step of
taking turning to violence and taking matters into your own hands.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's sometimes ethical to murder somebody.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
What do you make he was caught with a weapon
that was printed on a three D printer?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
What do you make of that piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We'll talk about that and some more information on Luigi Mangioni,
twenty six years old. He is going to be tried
for the murder of Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare.
Speaker 10 (09:56):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from AFI
A six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Let's get back to this kid, this Luigi Mangioni, and
he's been arrested for the murder of Brian Thompson in
the streets of New York, who was the CEO of
United Healthcare. And he was caught with a three D
printed gun let's find out a little more about this
kid and this gun going on.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
What do you make he was caught with a weapon
that was printed on a three D printer.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
What do you make of that piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So I'm really using this opportunity to make people more
aware of the problem of ghost guns. Number one, and
answer to your question, this is a young man who
really didn't think through fleeing. He made it to Altoona, Pennsylvania,
and then decided to have lunch or breakfast. That's not
somebody who really had the plan to keep going. Was
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he looking for another target? What's the story there? And
then with regard to the ghost gun, look a federal violation,
a state violation. They used that to grab and detain him.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
The guy still had the gun on him. How dumb
is that?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This has got to be the dumbest smart kid in
America in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
But the problem in our society is those ghost guns
are turning up more and more at the scene of
violent crimes. They can't be traced. You can make them
on a three D printer very easily. It's a problem.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
What do you think was the break in this case?
I mean, it seems once again, the public is indispensable.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I'm a huge fan of crowdsourcing crime solving these days.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I remember, way back.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
In my FBI career, we'd agonize over the decision to
share information with the public. Don't agonize anymore, get it
out there. That's what broke this case, the video surveillance
and the interesting contrast right with our high tech forensics
and sophistication DNA.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, I'm surprised anybody gets aware with anything nowadays. Everything
is on videotape.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Back in the day, you could get away with, you know,
cheating on your spouse. Now everything is on camera everywhere
you go. Everywhere you're going to cheat on your wife
for your husband, you're on camera somewhere. I remember we
followed a police chase, I think Krozier, I think you
were on the show back then where we followed a
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police chase into up until the dark streets near Dodger Stadium,
and the chase ended right next to a guy making
out with his mistress in a car.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
Oh yes, yes, but look at the end of the
cul de sac or whatever, right, yeah, exactly right, Yeah,
in a dead end cul de sac right there.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Which is redundant.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Tim thank you, And he was and all the helicopters
Channel two, four, five, eleven, nine seven, everybody on this
guy and he pops out of the car just because
he happens to be in the area. And it turns
out he was having sex with brown somebody probably shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And he was on TV. He was on television doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
But any everywhere is you're on camera doing everything, and
it's only going to get more and more and more
as more people can afford it. As these cameras become
cheaper and cheaper, you're going to be on camera everywhere
you go. Plus there's a tremendous footprint with your cell phone.
They can tell where you are, where you've been. I
don't know how anybody gets with crime anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Nobody fingerprintings, scuba teams and what solved this just putting
out a photo of a guy.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
And Frank Lastly, what do you make of the online
kind of empathy for this killer?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
There's been a lot of talk of that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, this is a great area.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What do you make about the empathy the sympathy for
this kid online. There's a lot of people who are
supporting this kid on social media.
Speaker 12 (13:39):
Yeah, a couple of things.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
We're all really getting the deep sense that people all
have horror stories about their insurance.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
But here's the issue.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
A corporate security executives who I'm in touch with, they
say this is a wake up call for them, and
they're CEOs who are saying, yeah, I didn't want security,
but now I do. The other concern that had developed
amongst detectives was are we chasing a hero?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, now see this went a different direction where this
guy who is an ex FBI agent, this is what
he said.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
They say, this is a wake up call for them.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, when people hear that, oh, it's a wake up
call for them. Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So the CEOs are going to treat people better, They're
going to pay out more claims, they're going to be
more sympathetic to people who are injured.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Or in pain. No, no, no, no, they're going to
get more security.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
And they're CEOs who are saying, yeah, I didn't want security,
but now I do.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They need security now.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
The other concern that had developed amongst the tectives was
are we chasing a hero? Is the public going to
help us if they align with him? And thank goodness,
the answer, at least for the McDonald's employees, was they
were doing the right thing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know, not only are people there's a lot of
sympathy for this Luigi Mangoni out there, but there are
a lot of people attacking McDonald's for turning this kid in.
The McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. They had a boatload of
negative reviews because somebody at that McDonald's turned this kid
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in and is as pissed as you are at your
insurance company, and as angry as you are about maybe
your health insurance or your home insurance or car insurance,
and you've been screwed over in your mind, and maybe
you have been by your insurance company. This is not
the time to post sympathetic messages on social media, especially
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if you're young, because that can come back to haunt
you ten twenty thirty years from now. If you post
something where this CEO deserved it and he should have
been killed and you believe that this Luigi Mangoni was
in the right, This lives on social media forever. And
so if you're a parent and you have a kid
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who's twelve, thirteen, fourteen, and they want to post something
supporting this kid. As a parent, you've got to sit
that kid down and say, look, I know how angry
you are, but you know because of what happened with
Grandma and her health insurance at the end, but you've
got to look out for your future. And as pissed
off as you are about your insurance company or your
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battle with an insurance company, you cannot put social media
messages out there and sympathize with this kid because I
would guess that eighty eighty five percent of jobs in
America are corporate America. And if corporate America, you're going
to look for a job and they see that ten
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years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago you thought
that this Brian Thompson should have been killed. You're not
going to get that job, and you're going to find
very difficult to find any job because that'll be passed around.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So as angry as you are, I get it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We've had some battles with insurance companies when my mom
passed away, and I was angry as hell, furious, But
you've got to somehow internalize it and control it, and
if you don't, then put it out on social media.
But I'm warning you it's going to reduce your chances
(17:15):
later on in life to pursue whatever your dreams are.
You know, professionally, it's going to have an effect, so
be careful what you post online about this situation. All right,
we're gonna come back and play some more, including an update.
What is this kid charged with? And we had an
update that came in about twenty minutes ago, so we'll
(17:38):
have a full update on Luigi Mangioni and what's going
on with this kid. We're live on KFI A six
forty plus. We have a wind warning for the Inland Empire,
win warning for the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
We'll get to that as well.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And at six o'clock in thirty two minutes from now,
thirty one minutes from now, a schedule press conference on
the fire in Malibu, So we get a lot to
cover between now and seven o'clock when Mo Kelly takes over.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
Litening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Let's find out more about this Luigia mangone. We have
two updates. Some of this information might overlap. We have
two updates, one just after four o'clock from ABC News.
We'll take that one and then we'll Eric Leonard had
a terrific piece on this kid as well. He's the
kid who's going to be charged with murder Brian Thompson,
(18:28):
the CEO in New York that was murdered one week
ago tomorrow on the streets in New York. If you
can believe it's only been a week and they've got
their guy, all right, Here are a couple updates on
Luigi Mangoni.
Speaker 13 (18:41):
When police arrived and asked Manjoni if he had recently
visited New York City, he became quiet.
Speaker 14 (18:46):
He became visibly nervous, kind of shaking at that question,
and he didn't really answer it directly.
Speaker 13 (18:53):
A confidential NYPD assessment obtained by ABC News says Manjoni
considered the targeted killing of Thompson to be a symbolic
takedown of United Healthcare over perceived corruption. Manjoni likely views
himself as a hero of sorts who has finally decided
to act upon such injustices. ABC News also obtained a
copy of the alleged killer's handwritten screed. It says these
(19:15):
parasites simply had it coming.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Specifically, he states how we are the number one most
expensive healthcare system in the world. Yet the life expectancy
of an American is ranked forty two in the world.
So he was writing a lot about his disdainful corporate
America and in particular, healthcare industry.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
But even as police dig into a motive, there are
still questions about how a young man from a prominent family,
the valedictorian at his elite prep school, and an Ivy
League graduate, could be transformed into an accused killer. We
asked his former roommate in Hawaii, who said Manngoni struggled
with a back injury.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
He did let me know that the severity of his
back issue is such that it was very difficult to.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Have coal.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Relationships with women, that it made.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Things painful.
Speaker 13 (20:08):
On social media, police see he posted an X ray
of a spine and wrote about back pains, sciatica and
brain fog, saying it's absolutely brutal to have such a
life threatening issue. For a number of months, Manzoni had
been out of touch with his family, and sources say
his mother filed a missing person's report in San Francisco
two weeks before Brian Thompson's murder.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And by the way, this family is loaded, they owned
two private clubs, they own healthcare facilities, they own a
radio station. This family has got money, and and I
had to send this kid to a school Hillman Private
School in Baltimore at forty thousand dollars a year, forty
(20:48):
grand a year.
Speaker 13 (20:49):
For high school. Manzoni's case has become a cause, with
admirers posting videos like this on Instagram. A social media
profile gained hundreds of thousands of followers after his arrest,
and the police department that arrested Manzoni has been threatened.
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is disgusted.
Speaker 15 (21:10):
I understand people have real frustration with our healthcare system.
This killer is being hailed as a hero. Hear me
on this. He is no hero, all right. That is
the Democrat that runs Pennsylvania. And that is a strong message,
all right. Here is a piece done by Eric Leonard
(21:31):
over at NBC News. Eric used to work here at
KFI for quite some time, and then he left radio
to a slum it over in TV.
Speaker 16 (21:40):
And here he is twenty six year old Luigi Mangioni
struggled with police a bit and yelled towards reporters as
he was brought to a courthouse in Pennsylvania in shackles.
During a brief hearing today, his defense lawyer told the
judge they will not agree to extradition to New York
on the murder charge, which will delay the criminal case
against him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Really a dumb thing to do, because if you delay extradition,
you also delay how many days that you've served in jail.
They don't the clock doesn't start ticking until you get
to New York, so it's just a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's gonna take thirty to forty five days.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They'll get him to New York eventually, but it's just
a stall tastic, it's attacktic. It really doesn't make much sense.
Speaker 16 (22:26):
Luigi Mangioni yelling something about abduction towards reporters as he
was led out of a police car and into a
courtroom in Pennsylvania, and there were no cameras inside the
courtroom where Mangioni was advised of the murder charges in
neighboring New York State. Mangioni did not agree to waive extradition,
(22:50):
which means a more formal arrest warrant will need to
be drafted.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Mangioni may try to challenge the validity.
Speaker 16 (22:56):
Of the charges against him, and a judge will have
to rule on whether or not he should be sent
to New York.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
All of that could take weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Contesting it, you know, just provides more hoops for law
enforcement prosecutors to jump through, who we're happy to do that.
Speaker 16 (23:10):
He'll be held with no bail while that takes place.
Mangioni's defense lawyer said after the hearing that he hasn't
seen charges from New York and says he hasn't seen
any evidence Mangioni is tied to the murder.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Fundamental Wait a minute, what.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Mangioni is tied to the murder?
Speaker 16 (23:27):
He saw no evidence and says he hasn't seen any
evidence Mangioni is tied to the murder.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I've seen evidence, and I just I'm living in Burbank,
I'm twenty seven hundred miles.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
He said that with his eyes closed, he must.
Speaker 11 (23:41):
Have the fundamental concept of American justice as a resumption
of innocent and until you're proven guilty, be on the
resort of that.
Speaker 12 (23:48):
And I've seen zero evidence of dispoint.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Really zero evidence, okay, zero evidence of disapoint zero all right, Okay.
Speaker 16 (23:57):
Last night, prosecutors in Manhattan filed weapons and false identification charges,
accusing Mangioni of being the masked, hooded gunman who executed
United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson on a sidewalk last week.
Police say the widespread distribution of wanted flyers and photos
led to a tip from a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania,
(24:19):
where Mangioni was arrested yesterday. He was allegedly carrying a
three D printed ghost gun, nine millimeters pistol, a suppressor,
fake IDs, and a three page note that authorities say
expressed ill will towards corporate America.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You know, that booth or that chair that he was
sitting in is going to be It's going to explode
on social media. Everyone's going to want to get a
picture of themselves sitting there eating the same thing, you know,
one of those hash browns, and take a picture and
post it online.
Speaker 16 (24:49):
Mangioni last lived in Honolulu before Friends and neighbors say
they lost contact about six months ago. The Manhattan District
Attorney's office says it will seek a governor's warrant, which
is now needed for this extradition from Pennsylvania. Mangioni was
initially charged in Pennsylvania yesterday with a legal gun possession
and having false IDs, So that case will now take
(25:09):
a backseat to the New York case, meaning it won't
be dropped and could be pursued whenever that murder case
has concluded. Live in the newsroom, I'm investigative reporter Eric
Leonard and NAC four News.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Back you Nerd with NBC four News. Great job. All right,
well we get back. We're gonna top of the wind
in the Inland Empire. And then at six o'clock a
scheduled press conference for the Franklin fire. That's the Malibu fire,
So we got a lot to get to before seven
o'clock when Mo Kelly takes over.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The wind is going to continue Inland Empire, bracing for
the wind. And according to La Times, this is not us.
According to the La Times, this is the number one
show in the Inland Empire. From Krozier to Marongo, from
Lake elsonor to Big Bear. The Empire has voted this
program numero uno. So thank you to everybody who lives
(26:05):
in the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Crouser.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You don't consider yourself an inland empire your feet away
from it?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I were you an inland empire? Guy?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I do?
Speaker 11 (26:13):
Okay, you're you're You're right at the edge of La
County about one hundred foot outside my door. Is the
line yet?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Is that right? And what is the county? Sand Bornandino?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yes, sir, Wow, so Sambridino goes from one hundred feet
outside your door to Parker, Arizona.
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Wow one in county?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Huge, huge. I didn't know. I didn't notice this. Are
you growing a mustache?
Speaker 12 (26:41):
A little thing going on?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I didn't notice that buddy had still just now, wow,
how long have you been doing that?
Speaker 12 (26:46):
About six months? As long as Steph.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I didn't notice. I know it's Steph.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I noticed step but I didn't notice that crozers growing
one looks like Bellio's got one working toombs.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh sorry, so rude.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I know, I know, I know, all right, inland empire
winds they're bracing for wigs.
Speaker 17 (27:08):
We'll definitely tell you this. If you didn't have your
patio furniture secured or your Christmas decorations secured, they were
definitely flying through the air here in the Inland Empire.
But the biggest concern wasn't the so much cooler temperatures.
It was today's fire threat from these heavy winds.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, the winds are crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
About seven years ago, Nil Sevadra, who was the Fork Report.
He's also with Bill Handle every day. He was very kind.
He gave me a nice, beautiful drone for my birthday
one year. Totally unexpected, beautiful gift.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And why didn't you tell the other part of.
Speaker 12 (27:45):
That m that you opened it before it was given
to you?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, I sort of, Yeah, I forgot that part of it.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
Yeah, I forgot that part of it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So I lived in Burbank at the time, off of Cordela,
which is near Hollywood Way and Magnolia, and I took
it outside.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It was windy that day.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I probably shouldn't have done this, but I took it
outside and wanted to take it on a test run,
so I didn't know how to operate it. I pressed
one button, it went straight up about one hundred feet
and then last time I saw it was going towards
Burbank Airport. Never saw it again. I literally flew it
for about nine seconds. I saw it go up for
(28:27):
about five seconds I saw it go north west for
about four seconds and never saw it again.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Never saw it again. Wow, no idea. You know, Neil,
I've done Neil fifteen years. Oh that's no, fifteen years
and he.
Speaker 12 (28:46):
Thirty.
Speaker 18 (28:47):
Never gotten anything, but he uh yeah, that was a
nice gift. That was a nice gift.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
Yeah, disappeared.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But he's a like a professional at the drones.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
When when the drones thing first started really hitting and
we needed to we explore the idea of having having
people here, especially in the news department, trained in drones
and stuff like that, Neil was Neil and Steve Gregor
were the first ones to jump on board and get
license and do all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah. I wonder why they didn't invite me. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm not that good with drones. I guess the experience
all right. Inland Empire bracing for these winds.
Speaker 17 (29:29):
Santa Anna Wins returned to the Inland Empire along with
extreme fire danger. On Monday, a public safe dealer was
sent out to residents and visitors across the area under
the red flag warning.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
We got a text on our phone saying that it
might be like a warning for fires, but we do
get a lot of those warnings when the winds come.
Speaker 17 (29:47):
Estella Munios and Alisa Mora drove in from Upland to
Fontana this morning.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh what a crew drove in from Upland to.
Speaker 17 (29:55):
Fontana this morning, describing the morning commute as downright and settling.
The strong winds made their usual drive feel a bit dangerous.
Speaker 18 (30:03):
Drove over here on the fifteen and yeah, I didn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I wanted to take I should have took the streets.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Windy, but it wasn't this windy.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I feel like it does get wild out there. The
winds in the Inland Empire. They come right out of
the desert, right down the fifteen. It's like a big
bowling alley.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
Yeah, we're talking about that yesterday. It's like, right, did
that go home? Pass?
Speaker 13 (30:20):
Man?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
It just comes that wind comes pushing through.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I remember coming home from Vegas during a particularly tough
sana Ana event, and we were driving south on the
fifteen freeway. We were going about fifty miles an hour
and you put your hand out the window. There's nothing
because the wind was going fifty miles an hour from
behind us. So you literally, because we were going fifty
in our car, you could put your hand out the
(30:45):
window and not feel anything.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It was odd.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Odd, Yeah, because we were going the same speed as
the wind. It was crazy, crazy.
Speaker 16 (30:51):
Well, we were sitting in our car on our break
and we could feel like our whole car like swaying.
Speaker 17 (30:55):
These powerful winds, combined with low humidity and bone dry vegetation,
have fire officials on high alert. The San Bernandino County
Fire Department has ramped up its resources by deploying extra personnel,
additional engines, and crews to handle the fire threat.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
You know, I always thought about this as a kid,
and as George Carlin said, this probably kept me out
of good schools. But if you had a flatbed and
you had a pitcher who could throw ninety miles an hour,
and the car was moving at ninety miles an hour
and he threw the pitch backwards at ninety miles an hour,
would it just bounce straight up and down because it
(31:33):
offset the speed.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't know, but again, kept me out of pretty
good schools.
Speaker 14 (31:39):
We're not so concerned with the high temperatures because it's
not very warm out, but the wins have been very problematic.
Speaker 17 (31:44):
Fire officials are urging everyone to be extra cautious and
avoid outdoor activity that could spark a fire.
Speaker 14 (31:50):
Obviously no outside fires.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, but I think that's three hundred and sixty five
days a year.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Good advice. Listen to this advice.
Speaker 17 (31:57):
Again, everyone to be extra cautious.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Okay, and be extra cautious, and not just for fire season.
This should be a rule of thumb for everybody in California.
Speaker 17 (32:05):
And avoid outdoor activity that could spark a fire.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yes, yes, not just now all the time.
Speaker 14 (32:13):
Another thing they can do, if you're towing and you
have chains, make sure those chains aren't dragging and causing sparks.
Those sparks can light fuels on fire on the side
of the road. So just be safe and have a
heightened level of awareness during these red flag warnings, and.
Speaker 17 (32:24):
Fire officials say also to have a plan and be
prepared should they call for evacuations in those fire areas.
And that includes just having your important papers and your
pets available.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That's right, get those pets, make those pets available as well.
All right, when we come back, we're going to try
to get this press conference. It's scheduled for six pm
for the Franklin fire, that's the Malibu fire. So as
soon as that happens, we will break in and bring
you that press conference live right here on KFI AM
(32:56):
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