Hour 2 | JD Vance @ConwayShow

Trump picks Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, a once-fierce critic turned loyal ally, as his GOP running mate // A deeper look into Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, Trumps VP pick // GUEST: Archie Gottlesman co-founder of Jewbelong, joins Neil in discussing her national campaign which is running across 7 states // GUEST: Archie Gottlesman co-founder of Jewbelong, joins Neil in discussing her national campaign which is running across 7 states.

Episode Transcript

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who is out again tomorrow but markson. Yeah, okay, so Mark
will be back. Tim's on vacationas we have heard, and I know
we were all trying to figure outwho was going to be the vice president

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choice for Donald Trump. I mean, there's just so much information after Saturday
coming in and of course the nationalthe Republican National Convention going on. It's
like just I don't know, it'sit's hard to take a breath in all
of this. But for those whoare playing the home game and want to

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look at the tail of the tape, who is jd Vance? You know
where's he from? So let's breakthis down. Learn a little bit about
Donald Trump's vice presidential pick at theRepublican National Convention. So where's he from.
He grew up in Jackson, Kentucky. Later moved to Middletown Middletown,
Ohio. Is it Middletown or Middletown. I'm gonna say Middletown. His childhood

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was apparently pretty tough. He waspoor, a lot of poverty. His
mom had struggles with addiction. Hisgrandmother, who he referred to his mama,
played a big role in raising him. He was in the military service,

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Yeah, he joined the Marines rightafter high school. Served in Iraq
as a public affairs Marine. Hismarried life, He's married to how would
you pronounce this usha us Ha basicallyUsa with an h in it Usha.

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I don't know. Vance. She'sa litigator based in San Francisco in DC.
They met at Yale Law School.No slouches there. Tied the knot
in twenty fourteen. They have threeyoung kids, Ewan, Vivek and Mirabelle.

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Vance's called the East Walnut Hills neighborhoodof Cincinnati home currently. They also
scooped up one point five million dollarpad in Alexandria, Virginia last year.
As far as the political career,Vance's Senate journey started in twenty twenty two
when he beat out Tim Ryan foran Ohio c and that's when he kind

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of hit the national stage. Hestarted getting more and more public views as
far as history with Trump. Thatkind of put him on the map as
well, because it started out veryrocky. It's strange when you think of
where he is today versus back intwenty sixteen. Vance wasn't shy about his

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beliefs, one of which was criticizingTrump. Not a big fan at all.
He stood on the fact he wasone of those people early on,
if my memory serves, that madethe ties to hitlarian individual in Trump and

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fearing for our nation to have someonelike that in charge. He came out
said many many things, but thatchanged by twenty twenty two. He kind
of flipped script on all of this. He got endorsement and he became a
big supporter of Trump. As faras his policies go. Dvance represents the

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new right, if you will.It's a brand of conservative politics that shakes
up the traditional Republican playbook. Now, I'll be honest, I liked the
more traditional Republican playbook. I'm notcrazy about the newer one. And for
those again who may have this ontheir being go card. I no longer

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belong to any party and haven't fora minute. I think the two party
system sucks, and I think it'shighly problematic and has run its course.
But he's into tariffs on trade,against getting mixed up in foreign wars like
Russia and Ukraine and the like,not keeping not keen on cutting social security.

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But as far as the Senate work, he's seen bipartisan efforts. As
a matter of fact, up untilthis time he was kind of well liked.
He's teamed up with folks like SharedBrown and Elizabeth Warren on different bills,
and so this is kind of seenas somebody who maybe could put their

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arms across the aisle and grab hands, but not so much anymore. I'm
sure. As far as views onabortion, Vance's anti abortion. His dance
has softened a bit in line withhow some states have moved on the issue.
He's talked about supporting access to theabortion drug that we've heard so much

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about, and that's kind of anutshell look at a pretty complex story.
I think shifting through politics big rolein shaping modern day conservative ideas. It's
going to be interesting to see howthis plays out in the long run.
Some are saying that he's a veryyouthful choice, and being a youthful choice

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can be good against the backdrop ofa very aging President Biden. But you
know, I know that at seventyeight, seventy seven or seventy I think
Trump seventy eight, that he's gettingolder as well. But I will tell
you President Trump does not does notread old, not to me, not

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if you're being fair, the sameway that President Biden does. So some
say that's a benefit with jd.Vance. The flip side is some are
saying that he doesn't have the backgroundto be president, which is something you
kind of look at for as yourVP. But I would say you could
make that argument certainly about Kamala Harrisfor sure, and a lot of people

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don't have confidence. I certainly don'thave confidences in her as president a possibility
of a president which is much morereal when you think about the age and
the shape of President Biden. Sothere's kind of a little nutshale of a
shell look into jd Vance, aman with a name that sounds like,

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I don't know, like a bookauthor. This is one of the tones
by jd Vance or like a nineteenfifties sitcom star Ricky Ricardo and JD.
Vance as the barber. But aninteresting guy nonetheless, a very steely looking
guy, very intense looking. Wewill see what comes out of that as

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we continue to learn more about him. Listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from KFI AM six forty. Hey, everybody, Neil Savadra in for Tim
Conway Junior tonight. Happy to bewith you. Tomorrow you will have Mark
Thompson who got pulled away today,but he'll be back tomorrow as Tim is

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on vacation. You know, it'sfunny playing Eddie Murphy there party all the
time. When was it I wasfilling in I don't know, maybe a
year ago or something. Crow andwe had a conversation about that on this
very program, about the note thathe holds in that and you did it

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and we timed you. Do youremember you held the note because I'm like
that that's digital like they had.Yeah, yeah, we did that.
And then and then Crow said Icould probably do that. And he held
the note, we timed it,and he could do it longer than Eddie
Murphy. Did Eddie just eat it? Yeah? There, Crozier can still

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do that. So probably more.Thanks for the memory, Elmer that brought
up good times during a very darkand tenuous situation here in America. Right
now. So I was talking aboutJD. Vance, interesting guy, and
I don't think he's someone that youcan and if you didn't know. JD.
Vance is the vice president choice ofDonald Trump, one that many would

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say is a great choice. Otherswould look around and say, God,
what an interesting guy, considering intwenty sixteen he was very critical of President
Trump before he became a President Trump, but just an interesting, fascinating guy.
He authored a best selling book calledHillbilly Elegy. How you pronounced that?

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It's adapted into a Netflix movie,which I want to see. I'm
curious. I hear the book isbrilliant. I hear that it's fantastic.
This is kind of a breakdown ofhis life and some of the stuff that
he went through. You know,I mentioned earlier about his grandmother, who
he called Mama Mama. Uh mA m A u w. Oh what

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do you call that? What isthe house is called m A m A
w Mama, Mama mama? Maybethat's it? Mama nice nicely done.
Said that she was a tough loveand I love this term, blue dog
Democrat, deep Christian faith owned guns. You know that we forget the spectrum

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because the only thing you hear nowadaysare the edges of the spectrum. The
fringe is the loudest, and weforget that there is law and order what
is referred to as law and orderliberals, and there are Republicans or conservatives
that have no issue with gay marriage, have no issue with abortion as it

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stands in the legal terms. Soit's it's interesting to see the different types
of experience that this individual JD.Vance has gone through and the things that
he wanted to bring to Ohio whenhe was elected in twenty twenty two and
sworn into the office on January third, twenty twenty three. So no schlump,

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schlump, you know, graduating fromthe Ohio State University and then Yale
Law School. Really somebody who pickedhimself up from his actual bootstraps and focused
on many things that were important tohim, like founding a business focused on
creating jobs and opportunities in the America, American heartland. I mean, how

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can you have a problem with that? Was committed over and over to fighting
for the people of Ohio in theUS Senate, believing they deserve better representation,
better opportunities, and was very veryvocal about it, fiercely defending Ohians.

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And you read about these things andyou think, God, that sounds
like a pretty amazing guy. Now, we always learn something about these people,
and of course you're going to learnfrom both sides. We see this
when someone comes into the limelight ofany kind. We want to rip them

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apart, pull them apart, tryto figure out who they are. And
you're going to get them from fromboth sides. So you're gonna hear praise
about things. You're going to hearpeople pulling them apart, trying to find
out what the weakness is, youknow, what makes them tick. And

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the fact that he hasn't built abillion dollar company, didn't build a world
changing nonprofit, nothing like that.He even goes on to say, you
know, I've accomplished nothing great inmy life, which is an interesting take.
He wrote that in the introduction tohis book, his twenty sixteen memoir,

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talked about that working class family ina post industrial Ohio and starts it
with I'm not a senator, agovernor, a former cabinet secretary. I
mean it seems to be somebody withgreat humility stepping up to the plate here.
I've heard some things that I don'tlike, and I don't know if

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this is just something stated when youput it or put into this position under
Donald Trump, things like that hewould have been different than the former vice
president and would have not authenticated orgosh, what's the right word the vote

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as Donald Trump wanted to go downthe way he wanted to go down,
and what actually was the precursor momentsbefore everything that went down on January sixth.
So that concerns me because to me, that is, you know,

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pushing back against the system is onething, but insurrection, to me is
a whole other thing. And toanybody who says, you know, the
insurrection is an act of patriotism,well you could have somebody infringe, somebody
that could say the same thing aboutthe attempted assassination on former President Trump.

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If they really felt that Trump wasa danger to our democratic republic, then
wouldn't they be somebody that would beheralded as a true patriot. God I
hope not. I hope we haven'tgotten that that's so whacked out that we're

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going to start seeing things that way, all right, I want to introduce
you to somebody coming up moments fromnow and when we return a billboard that
I saw recently that actually, youknow, and I love billboards, coming
from a marketing background of course,and designing many of them for CAFI along
with Robin Berlucci, and I've seensome that will make me stop. This

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one actually made me stop. We'lltalk to one of the people that created
them and the importance of them andwhy they put them up when we turn.
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it is cash. So best ofluck to you. You know, driving
on one of these freeways here inLos Angeles, as we are all wont
to do, I saw a billboardthat stood out to me and kind of
took my breath away for a moment, as it said very clearly, let's

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be clear, hamas is your problemtoo, And I was like, wow,
what is somebody who's done marketing anddone many an outdoor campaigns. It
really, I thought was a powerful, powerful statement simplifying that hamas is a
problem for one, hamas is aproblem for all. And to get more

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information about this campaign, who's behindit and why I bring to you the
co founder of juw Belongs. Isthat how it is stated ju Belong,
the co founder Archie Goddessman Gotisman,Welcome to KFI. Thank you so much

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for having me, Yes, Archiegoddessmand and I am so thrilled to be
here. Yeah, And I'm theco founder of juw Belong and we're the
ones who put those billboards all overLa. So we're very excited to be
I'm so excited to talk to youtonight. You know that song I was
in the eighties or nineties, youbelong like, That's what I hear in

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my head. You should. Youshould redo it with ju belong AnyWho.
That's just me. There is alot of anti Semitisism, and I have
always hated when people try to redefinethings to make them okay. And for
some reason we have to keep goingback and back and back to the same

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thing of people redefining anti Semitism,and for whatever reason, it doesn't seem
to get the protection that other minoritiesare provided. Sometimes that's the way I
see it, that's my opinion.So explain a little bit about these billboards,

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the campaign, the organizations that arestanding with you, and the purpose
behind them. Thank you so much. I agree with you. So I
agree with you just wholeheartedly that someof the some of the things that are
being thrown at Jews and Jewish studentswhere we all see it very clearly on

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campuses and just Jews in general,would never people wouldn't stand for it if
it was another marginalized community, ifit was you know, recently, there
were in La there were people whowere not allowed to be blocked from going
into their synagogue because they were Jews, and it was got violent. And
if that were a black community,or an Asian community or the just there

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would be an uproar, and thereisn't the uproar when it's against the Jewish
community. And I don't even knowif the reasons they're worth talking about,
but they're because they're not. Nomatter what the reason could be, it's
awful and they're just terrible excuses forhate. So Jubilong, Yeah, so
Jubilong is going out there. Jewsare only two percent of the entire country.

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We're a tiny, tiny minority.So in order to really be heard
about how scary and horrible anti Semitismis, Jubilong is putting billboards across the
country. And the one that youmentioned at your beginning, like, let's
speak clear. The Mass is yourproblem too. People like to think like

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oh Ams, like that's that's Jews, that's Israel, that's what's going on
there, and the Mass is fightinga holy word. They don't like the
Western way of life, and everybodywill be worse off for it. I'll
erkids. If A'mas wins and come, you know, wins in Israel and
does horrible things, it reminds methe horrible things that came out, you

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know, the lessons that I feellike we should have already learned from the
atrocities of the Holocaust, and thestories where you would hear someone say,
yeah, they came for so andso, and I ignored them, And
they came for so and so andI know I ignore them. And then
it's only until they come for youthat you have the insight when you look

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into Hamas and the very heart ofwhat they stand for. It's not just
about Israel or Israeli's or Jews.It is most certainly about gaining strength and
power to come after all those thatwould be an impediment of any kind between
them and their culture, their religion, and their beliefs. This is not

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this is a holy war against alland not It's not just Muslims, this
is not Islam. This is afringe, This is a group. This
is you know, uh, thethe Inquisition, not Christianity there is.
This is the ugliest parts of thefaith and not the faith itself. So

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it's exactly our salism. I alwaysyes, it's very important to separate.
It's a great point. And it'sextremism. If I can't live and let
you, you know, coexist withwith you and I need you to be
you know, believe what I believe, that's that's extremist. That's any sort
of religious extremism is dangerous. Oneof the things that you Belong is so

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excited about is that we are doingthis campaign not just alone, because honestly,
it's felt a little lonely to bein the Jewish community lately, because
some allies that we thought the weresort of allies to the Jewish community have
been relatively silent. But Patricia Heaton, who is an amazing actress, she's

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known for her role in Everybody LovesRaymond, The Wife that Ever Loves Raymond,
She is starting an organization called sevenC and O seven C. We
are reaching out to the Christian community, to every community, but mostly focusing
on the Christian community who are standingup and are proudly saying, you know,

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this is not appropriate. You cannotbe anti Semitism is not going to
be just like accepted in America,And oh my gosh, it's just again
it feels so good to not goit alone and to be doing a lot
of these billboards with seven C becausethe Jews are just they're too small of

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a people, and not all Jewsare speaking up as they should be.
I would imagine it's scary when youare a minority of such minute nature,
to feel like you could be targetedwould be incredibly scary. Can you hang
tight for a moment. We're goingto get some news and then come back.
I have many more questions to askyou. Okay, so we're talking

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about jew Belong. The co founder, Archie Goddessman is with us, and
we'll come back and talk more aboutthis initiative. And putting these billboards up.
Billboards is say, standing against antiSemitism is standing with America. Jewish
students deserve to be safe on campus. You don't have to be a Jew
to protect Jews. All of theserotating billboards that you see, one that

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I told you I saw that reallyI couldn't help but be grateful for the
verbiage was let's be clear, mossis your problem too. Again. This
is paid for by jubelong dot orgj E W B E l O n
G dot org, where you canfind out more information. Stick around.

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We will be back and talk moreabout this. And I think the importance
of it in a time where peopleare looking for reasons to separate themselves from
one another, that we need tobond on these things and understand the difference
and definitions they're in. You're listeningto Tim Conway Junior on demand from kf

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I A M six forty Neil's favorin for Tim Conway Junior tonight. Happy
to be here with you, Markthom Simpson. No, I know who
he is. Oh I do youforgot? No? I know who he
is. Belly jeez, she holdseverybody. She's so used to holding the
hands. And I'm like, Iknow, I just laugh at handles jokes

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for a living, But I doyou know, naturally? Is it?
As I said it? I like, is it? But I'm gonna get
back to my guests in just amoment from jew Belong dot org and I
encourage you to check that out.But I was just gonna give you a
compliment. And I know that's weird, but your hair looks beautiful today and

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I was just gonna me or Archie, no you, oh, thank you.
I can't see Archie. Oh,okay, that would be weird.
I appreciate that, but you do. And now I know I'm a bald
man, so but I I appreciatehair. Oh well, thank you very
much. So this every five pointfifty three, every single day that I
fill in, I like to doa special feature about people's hair that I

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like because I don't have it.That's nice. Yeah, being a bold
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All right, back to the realstuff, my guest, Archie. We
were talking, Uh, goddessman.I always it's like I get it,
and then I think, is itGoddessman's gotessman? Goddessman, right, Oh,
you got it. You've got itevery single time. Thank you.
I respond so well to positive,positive reinforcement, So thank you. Jew

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belong dot org. Jew belonged dotorg. We were talking about this.
I find to be incredibly creative andpowerful in its simplicity. Billboard outdoor campaign
throughout the freeways, the highways andbyways here in the Southland with billboards,
you're probably seeing them a very strikinguh pink background, white lettering with an

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accent of black. Let's be clear, hamas is your problem too? Paid
for by jew belong dot org.That was the one that I saw.
There's also another one says can abillboard and anti Semitism? No, but
you're not a billboard a man,And this one, I mean really gonna

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smack in the face. Were justseventy eight years since the gas chambers,
So no, a billboard calling outjew hate isn't an overreaction. That is.
One of the things that blows meaway is the examples, the history
that is still so fresh and anopen wound, the very birth of Israel

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can't be seen. And as atheologian and a student of historical religions and
their birth and the like, I'venever questioned the fact that Israel had its
place there and with all due respect, and I truly believe that if you
say someone is a Muslim terrorist,the thing I'm afraid of is not the

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Muslim part, it's the terrorist part. So when I have an issue with
Hamas, it's the terrorist part,not the Muslim part. And I think
that we need to wrap our brainaround that. And what you're doing,
I think is the cleanest, simplestway to do that. So what is

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your goal? How long is thisgoing to go on for? How can
people help? How do people spreadawareness? What do we do other than
someone like me who just praises youfor the effort. Oh, first of
all, this what we're doing rightnow and talking about it is so important.
Sometimes that billboard is the one thatyou mentioned. Can a billboard and

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anti semitism? No, but you'renot a billboard. People don't think that
anti Semitism. Many people don't thinkit's such a big deal. And I
mean Jews are often like gas litabout it, like, oh, it's
not such problem for wele in America. It is very scary right now.
Being a Jewish woman, I canspeak for myself. I wear a Jewish

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star. I have friends who don'tbecause they're like, I don't know,
you never like or people who arejust hiding being Jewish because they don't want
to feel the hate, which isI mean right there should be outrageous for
any thinking person and caring person inour country. But talking about it,

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the reason that we chose billboards isbecause Americans sometimes we like people may not
want the entire story of like ofwhy Israel you know it, like why
Israel responded, why there's you know, why anti Semitism is there and why
like, but they do respond toshort messaging. So I think we're living

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in kind of the time of theof the short message, and billboards are
beautifully created for that. So whenpeople see a message like yeah, seventy
eight years is the gas chamber,So a billboard clone out jew hate is
not overreaction. They should be like, hell, yeah, that's totally true,
Like what is going on that sucha short time ago, you know,

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people were killed just for being Jewishand now the same people are scared
again to walk down the streets inLA with maybe a yamaka or with a
Jewish star on and have to befearful, and anyone should be again just
thinking like that's not when I'm alive, Like not while I'm here. I'm

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not going to let that happen.And there are so many people who most
Americans are not anti Semitic. MostAmericans, though, don't. They might
be too silent on the subject andwhat the billboards are doing or saying,
please talk about it, like askabout it. If you have a Jewish
friend, say hey, how areyou doing? Like or you know,
or like speaking about it is theonly way that problems get better. Silence

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is the worst thing. Silence islike it's kind of complicitly agreeing with the
hate. And that's why it's soimportant that people stand up and say absolutely
not, I'm not going to Thisis not going to happen while I'm around
and can speak about it. Andthat's why billboards with their short messages are
so important, so much. Justthis conversation so much to take in.

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I know we had limited time,but I appreciate you taking the time to
come on. I think it isincredibly important. This is not about agreeing
with the government in Israel and everydecision they make or any of those things,
or the loss of life on they'rein Gaza, not even close.
It is really about a separate issueexactly. It's about anti Semitism in America.

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And if I could just say onemore thing, j you belong chooses
our locations often because people reach outto us. They go on our website
and they reach out and they wantWe're a nonprofit and so we raise the
funding and we put the billboards oftenwhere people are interested in having them.
So if you want to talk tous, go on juwbelong dot org and

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send us an email or go onour Instagram. And this is it's just
it really is a matter of lifeand death, not just for Jews.
This is not a Jewish problem.It's an American problem. And the more
people who realize that, the betteroff our country will be. I mean,
I appreciate you taking the time tocome on jubelong dot org. Juwbelong

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dot org. Of course I've beentalking with the co founder, Archie this
whole time, and I appreciate youtaking the time to come on. Thank
you so much for having me.It's really a blessing to be on with
you. Thank you well, thebest, the best of luck with this
campaign, and I hope that ittakes people back like it did me and
continues to do good. I'm surewe will talk against it alrighty be safe

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spell it. I'm just gonna spellit for you if that's okay. J
E. W. B E lO n G dot org. Thank you
so much, thank you very much. I'm a wonderful, my absolute pleasure.
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