March 28, 2024 • 32 mins
Guest: Phil Hendrie (Hendrie) – The process of building out radio show characters / Howard Stern’s fandom of Phil / The making of the Hendrie documentary / Phil’s experience with Michael Crozier // Phil’s inspiration from his mother for certain characters / Experiences at the racetrack / Archival footage from Hendrie // The excitement around Phil’s first syndication deal / Most popular markets for Phil and his experience with Casey Kasem / Revisiting the burning bugs segment // Celebrity commentators in Hendrie speaking on Phil’s career / Phil’s recent appearance in Grey’s Anatomy / Phil’s current life in Ventura
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It's KF I am six forty andyou're listening to the Conway Show on demand
on the iHeart Radio app. Ladiesand gentlemen, Phil Henry, nice to
see you, bus Man. Ohman. It's been a long time,
many many years, and I can'ttell you how excited everybody is to have
you on KFI again. It reallyis terrific. It's where I listened to
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hour after hour after hour of youdoing your show and and uh man,
everybody came in town, you know, from Howard Stern to uh you know,
even like you know, Buddy Mine, Rick Dy's, all these guys,
all the radio guys, you're theyyou're sort of like the Norm MacDonald
of stand up comedians, where theyall think you're the better, venerable,
yeah, the best, like thecomics comic Yeah you can't. You were
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in Kala six, yeah right,yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but you
were on board they were still likedoing music back in the eighties when they
were doing music. But when whenI was a caf I you were over
at Kayla six where they were stilldoing with free FM. Yeah right,
yeah, yeah, yeah, beforeAdam got there, but that's right,
yeah, yeah, then they hadDavid Lee Roth and then they said,
okay, well that didn't work out, and they rolled a hand gridade into
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the studio and at the end ofthe day, yeah, it was it
was Howard Stern. Then they playedmusic all day and then they went to
talk all day and and and whereThe first time I met you was at
that radio and TV Museum in BeverlyHills. Yeah, and we were up.
I remember being on the rooftop preppingthe show, wanting to jump,
and then going downstairs and doing theshow. I don't know how we did
that, but you know, doinga live show, doing what I was
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doing at live So you got tomake the bit work. You got to
make sure you get callers. Meantime, you have an audience that's going.
And that was the first time inmy life I ever saw myself on camera,
and it's it's it's significant because Ialways thought I was just doing a
radio show. I didn't know.I looked at myself and I I didn't
recognize the guy. Yeah, inand out of character, moving backwards and
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forwards away from the microphone, changingambience, changing facial expressions. It's great.
I thought I had a disease ofsome kind. I thought it was
I look at anytime Howard Stern wasin town, the first step being the
first place he wanted to stop wasto watch you do the show. Yeah
he did, That's what ostensibly whathe but it was really for money,
but I owed him. He did, and Howard was good. His agent
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was my well, my agent wasDavid castsh was with Buckwald. That was
the group of guys. So Ithink Howard was just sort of They told
him, would you go and sayhy to Phil? Make him feel good?
Okay? Yeah, right, SoSteed come into town and hang you
know, and then Karen Sharp fromthe FM would come over and go,
oh hi Howard and hug him,squeeze his ass. He'd be looking at
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me like, what is this I'mkitting around Karen? That's right, Karen
Sharvi's huge fansh Karen should have gotyou Texas yesterday when REV was on.
But how did how did the documentaryall come together? Well? Quite literally,
I was just probably at my houseone day, petting my cat,
and the phone rang and they said, I, Phil, this is Pat
uh Pat Reynolds and Jordan Brady.We are a couple of filmmakers and would
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you like to have lunch. We'dlike to do a documentary about you.
I said, sure. You knowhow long ago is this? This was
twenty eighteen? Oh wow? Yeah. And in fact, I have a
wonderful kid, my god's son,Joe Oldender, who's also a filmmaker himself.
He said, when did they startmaking this for twenty eighteen? What
are they just dragging their ass,aren't they? Patt? He introduced me
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to a buddy of his. Thisguy is going to do another movie.
I'm kidding. I'm actually not kidding, but I blew the guy off.
But anyway, So twenty eighteen,I go over to this a row of
beautiful offices in the studios at SantaMonica Airport, which is where Pat and
Jordan were located. They had thatproduction company, and we had Lunchally said
we'd like to do a documentary aboutyou. And I was saying to Sharon,
I'm such a really an honest guy. I didn't want to mess it
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up by saying, well, letme be a producer too. We can
start talking percentages. I thought,wow, if this is a doc it
has to be honest journalism. I'llstep away and let you guys do it.
I'm flattered that you want to dothis movie. So that's what happened,
and they began doing the movie thatcame out and interviewed me. They
got a whole crew of wonderful interviewsfrom guy is that it blows me away,
Henry Rollins and Bill Hayter and judAppato. I can't believe how I
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mean a a list celebrity, heavyweightdude. And by the way, they
don't all just talk about like ohI I you know, when I was
zipping through the station, I occasionallycaught his show. They're all major fans
that they'd spend hour after hour,day after day listening to your show.
They would talk about the with thethe art of it. Especially Henry broke
down how he said, now youtake the ellipse from one of the words,
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what are you talking about? Buthe actually talked about the breath control
it takes to go in and outof character. And Bill actually went into
character as Herb Sewell, one ofmy characters, one of his favorite characters.
But who is a child molester?That's the character going Bill? I
mean, but I watched this andpretty soon you don't want to watch it
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anymore because you're going I can't.It's scaring me. It's to this can't
be me. It's got to besomebody else it was listening to. First
of all, obviously, you knowKrozer was a big part of it.
You know, Michael Krozer was forthree years. Yeah, and I was.
I was telling Krozer, I said, he must have been a really
great part of it because working withyou, you had to, you know,
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get it, and you had tocontribute to the shower You're gone,
you know, the next producer comesin. For him to be there for
three years, that's a big dal. Mike, Mike contributed. He had
a whiteboard the first time that everused. I've seen how he would scribble
down lines, uh and it wouldtrigger us into this insane laughter. And
there's a bit on one of theCDs that that Mike actually threw one of
his writings on the whiteboard titled thebit, Oh that's great. And as
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soon as I saw what he'd writtenand now I think and I broke I
broke out laughing, and he started. Mike has that high pitch kind of
tackle, so you can hear himthroughout three minutes that was here, Mike
and I have a problem and literallyis yeah, I have this problem.
Seriously. It's related to narcolepsy.But my doctor told me when I laughed
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too hard, I lose muscular controlof that class. And so I remember
falling on the floor in the studioand I'm stop, but Mike he doesn't
care. He's like falling over laughing. So this is all in the bit
And Mike uh and and Joanah bothwere big, big parts of the show
early on when we started there.And uh, you know what what year
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did you start here at Camfine?I was was there too? Stints of
cafine? There was a first timewas I was just doing a regular talk
show, left being a disc jockey. I was dissatisfied. I knew the
talk radio is kind of where itwas at. So I got this weekend
job. George all of Us,who was the early program director, hired
me. Okay, well let's seewhat you can do. And I'm like,
this is Phil Henry and good evening. We have murvtt, some jackass
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that I brought. It's more manthat I brot him as a guest,
tell us about so the water systemin this country, And about a year
or that they mercifully fired me.And so I had to go out and
find my way. And I andI uh did a weekend stint stint at
Cake How, which is a rockstay in Redlands. Meanwhile, I made
a tape with me just pouring itall out there, just what would you
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do? Phil? And I threwit on this tape and the first person
to respond was Diane rem the programmerprogram director WCu. She's legendary program director,
great program director and said the following, Phil, it's fantastic. I
can't hire you. Wow. AndI thought, I'm onto something. Yeah,
CDs and Phil, he likes thetape and won't hire Me's something there.
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So I just sent this tape.I would go anywhere anybody would hire
me. And it was right upthe coast and ventur this little station kve
In, Oh wow. And RichColono gave me the best advice he could
possibly give me. He said,Phil, just do your show like you're
not gonna get one phone call.There were days that I didn't, you
know, and that freed me upto create whatever I wanted to for three
hours. But was that the moment, Phil, that you realized, Hey,
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I can create callers? And whereat what moment did they Yeah,
the synchronicity is that the word thesynergy there was the Desert Shield. The
Desert War was about to start andKuwait. So we had a build up
of troops in the in the summerof nineteen ninety American troops over there.
Americans were very emotional about it.And I thought that I would come on
one day as the as the hostas an Iraqi named Raj Finin, just
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to just dis mess with people,right, you know, I mean he
was Finan and uh, you knowpeople talk about Saddam Mussin. He's a
good guy. He's not a badguy, and this kind of stuff.
Well, my engineer is a guynamed Greg Glassman is in the other studio,
Greg Lassan. He's waving and going, we're getting phone calls for this
Iraqi. I said, well bringhim put them through. Oh that's classic.
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And so I remember the first guy, the first guys like, yeah,
I'm driving through your little berg here. This guy really thought, you
know, and you know, yougot people there when they come on like
they're one hundred bucks worth of youknow, life sense and this is driving
a berg and where are you from. Yes, at the end of the
Egypt, Uh, huh, well, let me tell you something, Sada
musin. It's a murderer. Nono, no, no, you're bad.
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You know. They probably too muchfast food for you. And gradually
things got weird. Yeah, partof the documentary. I love that the
piece they kept in the documentary whereafter nine to eleven where he said,
I'm going out to miniature golfing andI shot at thirty six just to make
sure that you know that the thatthe terrorst didn't win, that was Bobby
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Dooley, that she was invented herein La As. I was driving to
work one night to KFI and Iheard a woman on the phone at KABC
and she was talking about the valleysucceeding from LA That was the big story
back then. And my husband thinksthat, you know, the valley should
succeed in anything like this. Ithought that that's that voice is beautiful,
you know, And so that's whenI started doing Bobby. What a brilliant
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character. Bobby is like the originalgated Community Fascist Association president. And she
just you know, Phil, we'renot gonna let the terrorists. When we
went out we shot Ministry Gold whatever, dude, that's classic, all right,
Phil, Henry's whether it's Mark Thompsonthis, whether it's Conway show,
We'll come back and talk more aboutwith Phil about also his documentary that's on
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Amazon Prime. Yeah. In fact, Eric, he just he just texted
this. Make sure you tell Conwaythat we're no. He basically said,
it's on every It's on every platform. So every platform. Okay, all
right, every platform. You cango out there and see it on every
platform. Your name of the documentaryis Henry. Okay, yes, just
check it out. And Belly sawit last night. She loved it.
Belly Bell never looks at anything.You're listening to Tim conwayjun you're on demand
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from kf I am six forty PhilHenry the new documentary. Everyone's talking about
it. Henry. It is outon all the platforms. You can see
it anywhere, and he's with us. Nice to see you as always.
Man, It's great to see you, man. And during the commercial break,
we I think it was Belly orMark Thompson asked you where did that
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You know that annoying Bobby Dooley?Yeah, and that comes from your your
mom. Yeah, my mother isBobby Dooley. But the two female characters
that I do Margaret Gray and Bobbydool are two aspects of my mother.
I love my mother, but shewas kind of a psychopath, you know
it just so you could look mymother would look you up and down.
You could be telling her, mom, I just won the Nobel Prize for
chemistry, and she's looking you upand down. She's literally saying, are
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you gonna get are you gonna getthis? Trim? What are you pointing
at? Mommy? Just talking aboutthe Bell Prize? No, that's great.
Yeah, yeah, because there wassomething patronizing about the way Bobby Deeley
would interact, right, and thenyou'd also do that mm hm to interrupt
them. I mean it was whenand that just started, right Bobby,
It just started. I just Ijust started throwing it. And and so
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Bobby is saying to them, no, I'm here for you. I'm listening
to you. No you're not,you know, would you shut up?
That was the best part when theywould lose it at Bobby because she was
going another and my daughter is ina hospital, she has polio and another
thing. Would you stop that orI'll kill you? Where did you grow
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up back east? Arkadiak? Alright, so probably I'll out the race
track once they did bro In fact, I could hear it to this day.
I remember watching Gil Stratton, rememberGil Stratton doing Hello sports fans,
and then I'd run out of myfront lawn and listen to Joe Hernandez doing
the Oh that's wild. So youremember like the old you know, with
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the green sheet and the old daywith the with the track. But also
there's a station and a new stationhere in LA that would play the replays
so you could bet and then gohome and listen on the way home how
much you lost they did they dothe race of the day or someone?
Yeah, exactly exactly. Maybe backthen it was like K and X.
Yeah, but you grew up nearthe track. Then I grew up behind
the track and then yeah. Butone of the houses we've lived in two
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houses in Arcadie. My dad andmom bought a house that was up above
the track and we snuck in.We would go in underneath the fence as
little tiny kids and you and thenyou'd pick up all the tickets that the
betters threw away and you collected themand you thought they were worth something.
You know, Look at all thetickets I shot, They're all loosers,
you know. But we used tocollect tickets too, and then you go
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through them and like one out ofevery thousand would be like, oh,
two dollars two. But now theydon't let you do that. It's called
it's called stuppen now or stuppen,and they don't let you do that anymore
because all the dead tickets go tothe security union's benefits. So you can't
do that anymore. They'll throw youout of the track now if fleck tickets,
yeah, it's unblivable. But acrossthe street from the track was the
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jockey clubs. Yeah right, exactly. Yeah. We tried to break in
there once, but that's when theywould get on a Wednesday. They were
up on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. On a Wednesday
they get forty five thousand people off. It was amazing, man, it
was a great time. And uhand you know they and now they cancel
it when they might rain. Ihave mixed feelings now about horse racing.
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I don't want to piss anybody off, but my dear friends, I mean,
I grew up in Arcadia, soI've got a buddy who's a trainer.
He comes from a family of horsemen. I've got friends were the sons
and daughters of jockeys. It wasthat kind of a town, kay,
It was a small community. Ilearned how to drive at the sant Anito
parking lot. Oh that's great.Oh yeah, my father taught me.
To my father, I'll never getus. He'd take us all out there.
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Time for you to learn to drive, you know, everybody, let's
go. And he had two trafficcones and my poor brother he's teaching.
My brother goes, okay, that'sa little kid. That's an old lady
parked between them. And I'll neverforget poor brothers trying to park it out
here. My dad, go,you just killed an old lady. In
the documentary, Henry, I can'tbelieve all the footage that still exists.
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If you playing records, I mean, you look like you were, you
know, nine years oldys. Ohyeah, that was Kalis X and oh
and I listened to that and it'stwo different guys, you know, because
in those days, I don't knowwhat I was doing. I was I
was afraid of my own shadow.I wasn't sure that I even belonged,
you know, doing a radio show, and I was in my mid thirties,
and fine, I just said,you know, I better do this
if I want to do that.I knew I had talent, but I
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knew I had to just uh,I don't know what you'd call it,
man, just to just run nakedinto traffic or something, you know,
right, But you can even tellin the video of you, you know,
playing records, that you couldn't havebeen more bored doing that. Yeah,
you know, I mean even ata young age, you couldn't hide
it your head down. Okay,it's Billy Joel again. You know,
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here we go. And it wasa major market gig. Man, there's
kads that would die for a giglike that. But would you do calls
on that show at all? Film? No, No, they were like
not not even winners of the albumsor tickets or anything like that. They
wouldn't call it. I don't rememberif we did it was it was there?
It was straight Mary. It's Phil, Henry Kali sections one tickets to
see Stevie Ray Vaughan. That's wonderful. Yeah, hell man, all right,
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Phil Henry's whether it's Mark Thompson aswell. Go see the documentary Henry.
It's everywhere on all platforms. Checkit out. It's great and everyone's
talking about it. You're listening toTim Conway Junior on demand from KFI AM
six forty. It's Phil Hendry's whetherit's the brand new documentary out Hendry.
You can get on all the platforms, and man, I I just enjoy
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talking during the commercial breaks because wecan talk about things and use language you
can't talk about on the air,obviously, but but you know, just
talk. Looking back on on yourcareer, you know, the big syndication
deal. I remember reading I thinkit was on LA Radio or Orange County
Register that you know, Phil Henrysigns the biggest syndication deal you know of
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that time, and I thought,man, I was so jealous of how
you know, what a big dealand that was a huge, big time
in your life. I remember runninginto you and you were happy as hell.
You just had a brand new wife, I hope. So, yeah,
you had a brand new wife.I remember you had a big old
house out in Westlake and it wasit was great, and you acted like
you've been in the business for oneday. You're always very humble and very
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interested in whatever else was doing,and it was just it was it was
great to meet you back then whenyou know, when it was like thirty
years ago, but you know,it was like it was only fifteen,
tim But that's okay, I reallyof old aged. But did now did
you when your show was syndicated?Was that a hassle for you? Or
did you enjoy it? Because thatwas a big deal when that happened,
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It was a big deal and Iwas nationwide. Thank god, you have
good reason me back then because Iremember being a basket case and I was
married, and I also had fourstep children, and I remember that yet,
yeah, and I think it wassomething about me. Maybe is my
Catholic upbringing thing? And you hadall of this success. Now you've got
to do something good. Okay.Most guys would say, look at all
the let's go out and you know, let's go bar hopping with so how
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many women we can get in onelike three hour period. But no,
I decided I'd get married and takecare of four children, and I'd buy
a big house and oh yeah,on top of that, have this radio
show, and on top of thata radio show where I have to invent
these guests and have people call in, and you know, I'm surprised that
I didn't develop some tumor or something. But I was having a ball.
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But it was a lot of pressure, man, And I think the life
that I picked out for myself,it probably could have been easier, you
know. But nonetheless, we hadsome great shows, and we had a
lot of good talks do in thoseshows, and then you know, we'd
go out and do remotes and theplaces we were popular La Miami, but
Salt Lake City, now why thatshow was huge in Salt Lake City.
It was huge in Wilmington, NorthCarolina. I don't know how you get
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these pockets of fans, but PhilHendrys with us. Your your love for
radio is exactly mine. When Iwas a kid, I was punished a
lot as a kid, so Iwas in my I wasn't a big fan
of music, so I'd listen.I'd be sent to my room after school,
you know, come down to eatdinner, and right back to your
room. And I'd listen to talkradio all the time. And my grandparents
did, my dad did, mymom did. But even listening to stories
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of you, like with with CaseyCasem and you know, those are the
guys that were bigger than life.You heard him on radio. You heard
him coming out of the speakers yourhome, in your car, and then
to meet him is it's it's likemeeting you know, the like you know
your favorite athlete in the world.I mean, these guys were bigger than
life. They were man, theywere they and the things they knew how
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to do. You wanted to knowhow to do. You want to know
how to talk, how to talkup a record, hit the post perfectly,
how to be so fluent. AndI saw Casey Cason when I was
thirteen. I used to ride mybike to the Huntings and Shirt and Hotel
which is now the Langham Hotel andgo in there and I'd see him working
and he said, my kids,here are you. I'll come out and
talk to you, and just doI'm Cacy Casu And he come out and
this is how short I was.Then I was looking up at him and
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like ad almost a forty five degreeaim. Casey wasn't the biggest thing out
of tall man, No there is, but I watched him working professionally,
and then later got to know him. We were all over at Westwood One
and a premiere. He was apremier and he'd say, so you you
knew me. Yeah, I'm funny. I don't remember you at all.
Thanks, so actually, excuse me, I'm trying to get through here,
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I try to get here. Thisis being used. So actually I remembered
him from we did a shot atCasey et twenty eight. Remember back when
they CACT would do fundraisers Cherry andwhen do we get the get radio guys.
Let's do the radio guys. Youguys are BLib sure And I sat
next to him, and Casey wassuch a pro. I'm going and Channel
twenty eight would like to have yourmoney. Case we go, and then
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you can donate your money to Channeltwenty eight, right, Phil turns to
me first of me, Yeah,that's right Casey. All right, this
piece we're gonna play people, you'reyoung, made not of you know.
Got to listen to you as oftenas Mark and I did. Uh and
and also to a Krozier. Uh. This piece is the burning the burning
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bugs piece, Burning Bugs. Okay, this is great? Is this neat
a set up? Or as weit's all? It should be pretty good.
Second take all, right, herewe go. Here we're talking with
this gentleman who went to a accidentscene in Pasadena on the two ten this
afternoon and attempted to, in hiswords, assist in the investigation because it
was a female officer a loan whathe thought was a junior officer. What
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are you collecting evidence? Yeah,that's right, So I keep a magnifying
glass in my car and wait,wait, wait, wait a second.
This is a police investigation of ascene in an accident. That is correct.
Yes, you're retired, Yes,sir, I am retired, and
I have spent my life loving thiscountry and supporting our police. What I
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did was, after the officer toldme to back off, I went to
my car and I got out mymagnify glass and immediately went to work on
the crime scene. I got onmy hands and knees and began just analyzing
the asphalt behind my car because Ididn't want to piss the cop. Pop.
So, but you were nowhere nearthe scene. I was not near
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the crime scene at that particular point. What I thought I would do is
do a little, uh you know, basic investigation behind the scene. For
a while, I was on myhands and knees looking for evidence. Then
I got bored. You acted me. Okay, you were doing what my
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hands and like idolizing evidence with themagna fie glass. Then I got bored.
That's great. Well, that's great. That's so great, man,
that's great. That is so awesome. You can hear Krozier in the background.
Man, you did that, Mike. Mike had that board and he
would write down all kinds of stuffand would put me away. You remember,
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I got I got Disney they pulledtheir advertising from us, uh for
god good six months because we didthe bit about uh uh that we did
funerals on Tom Sorry Island and Iand I played the now it's time to
say And then you took your yourtape and you did this like it was
flames the old macking mouse steam out. You can take you, you can
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take your loved one over the whateverit was Tom Sawyer's island on a burning
funeral pirate and you have the you'dhave the characters standing around Mickey mess yeah
to the fire side effects. Ohthat's great. Phil Henry is with us.
Go watch Henry. It's on allthe platforms. Great documentary are on.
Michael Krozier's in it as well.You're right, and there are a
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bunch of bits. I mean,if you like the Henry Bitch. They
animated bunch. It's really funny.You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from kf I am six forty Phil. Henry's with us the documentary. Henry
is out there and everyone's talking aboutit. Everybody is I've seen it.
Bellio's looked at it. She doesn'tlook at anything. Now. There's so
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many funny bits, and I wantedto We were talking about this before,
Tim, when we were just kindof hanging out, the fact that there's
so many people who are in thedocumentary who are like famous celebrities and also
very funny people. Bill Hater He'sone of them, and there are a
ton of them, John Appata,et cetera. And what I was saying
to you, Phil, is thatit's one thing for them to be listeners.
I mean, after all, youwere on in Los Angeles where they
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could listen to you, but theyweren't just listeners. They were fans.
They reached out to you. Youtold me Dwight Yoakam called Dwight Yoakum,
Dwight, if you're out there,how come you stopped calling? That's kind
of interesting, But anyway, itwas great knowing you Dwight all those five
minutes ago. But yeah, therewere and and we had cats, and
I don't think I'm talking out ofschool. We had guys calling us.
Jonah Wiland was my producer at thetime, and Mike knows this. He
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come running the guys from just shootingme called again and they've got another idea
for you. Remember the show isjust the writers would be calling in or
they'd be hearing our ball that they'dbe suggesting ideas and how all that awesome?
That's right. And Neil Patrick Harris, he would call it all the
Neil Patrick Harris called it all thetime. And uh, I don't know
who else man but Grinning, whoMatt Grant, Matt Granny, Mett Grinning
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invited us over to Simpsons. Wehad all the guys, Jonah and Mike
and I went over to the Simpsonsand watching the classic do a thing.
And I think Mack got disappointed mebecause I became a warmonger just for laughs.
Well, what was your relationship withwith Stern? Did that when he
came out here? You guys goout and have drains then? I mean,
Howard was a professional acquaintance, buta good man, a nice man
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and like what I did, Andof course I respected what he was able
to achieve in his life and career. But he came out here primarily for
women, and also he came outin primarily probably. But he was with
Don Buckwell, who was his agent, and my agent worked for down so
we'd have lunch. In fact,we were having lunch one day at a
hotel and he figured out he foundout that Rosy O'Donnell I think was upstairs
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and wanted to get into a bellbellhop hat plan and bust into a room.
It didn't happen. And so wheredid you end up? Now?
You're up in you talk about whereyou live. Yeah, I'm up in
in Ventura and I have a homeabout a block off the sand there.
Because I don't if you want tobe two ostentatious, sure, but it's
so great up there. You knowwhere we were talking during the break when
it's one hundred and fifteen in thevalley. We drive up there and you
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got to put a sweater on.It's sixty eight degrees and it's kind of
almost central coast, Man, it'salmost not and so there's a lot of
sea lions, there's a lot offog. You know, it's it's very
Cape Cattish, and I the onlything I don't like is that it's so
bloody far away from working in Layou know, you ride like two hours
every time I go anywhere. Likewe we asked you to come on the
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show, and you thought it wasat seven thirty. I thought it was
at seven thirty. And I'm sittingaround in my underwear and I'm heading the
cat and I'm like, well,time for right, time for another milky
way. I think I've funder Okay, let's see it. And I'm scrolling
my phone looking for naked pictures ofsomething in there. It says Phil Henry
at five and you should have seenme move as fast as I could.
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Man. I jumped in the car. Thank god, it was like three
o'clock and anyway, take me twohours, right because it could be a
two hour drive exactly exactly. AndI got here with twenty minutes to spare
shirt or something like that. Butyou know, Phil's gonna be more on
camera work. He was saying,like he's say, you know Gray's Anatomy
and very oh, just they justdid a Gray's Anatomy was just on in
fact, and Uh, that's agreat example. They shoot that at a
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place called what is the name ofthe studio again, Uh, you're talking
about Prospect Prospect Studios, which isused to be there. Yeah. It's
as far into East LA at EastHollywood as you can get. And I'm
out there, and so for asix thirty call, I got to get
out of bed and get in thecar by four thirty am. And yeah,
and I'm getting off the freeway andI'm you know, going over there.
So not that I'm not complaining folksthat I had a TV crazy man.
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I mean, you know, Idon't think I'll take those gigs anymore.
They're just too far away. Yeah, you guys come to me the
inconsideration of these jackasses. But no, it was great. But yeah,
it's pretty early to go to work. So yeah, that'd be nice to
move closer to town and move backto where you But it is nice to
you know, it is like thecentral Coast up there, and you'll find
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and I'm sure this has happened toyou, You'll find a local bar where
locals go and and you can,you know, you get right into with
them. And man, the storiesare great. The stories are and our
little restaurant up there's a place calledQuincy Street that's owned by a stuntman,
Denny. His wife karenly owned thisplace, and so he's got pictures of
himself. Oh that's all. Comein, daddy, How you doing,
baby, it's great. Hey,look at this Phil And he'll show me
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a video of himself getting blown outof a car or something. What happened.
I'm fine, I'm conscious now ifI browned out. He's showed me
this video of himself where a cardoor explodes and hits was walking away and
I said, are you all right? He said, I'm pretty sure I
am. When did that happen twoweeks ago? Wow? Oh, so
he's still working as Oh, he'sstill working. Yeah. And he and
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his wife owned the restaurant, andhe's got pictures of himself with John Trevoe.
It's a typical, you know,cool little restaurant to go and throw
back a Long Island nice tea.Which and they're deadly up there, by
the way, so I recommend them, but that but that's a great place
to get out of Hollywood and getout of Los Angeles and it and it's
almost like going back to Maine.Or the East coast where everything is nautical.
There's old ropes, there's old youknow, sailboat parts and there,
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and there's even small guys. There'slike old guys will be sitting at the
bar and how you doing, Phil, I still got your Oh I got
the forty two foot Colorfordia. Yeah, we're gonna go over to the cove
and and I just said, doyou relax over there? Huh? I
relax. I'm I'm gonna tell youabout it. He t t can I
can take a moment here if you'llindulge me, because this is I watched
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the documentary last week and and thesecond it came on, and I was
I told my wife, my secondwife, not the one that I was
with you, Phil, but Itold her so many stories from from working
with you in the time, andit just it totally took me back watching
the documentary and it was incredible forme, and I wanted to take the
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moment now that I know that thatboth Tim and and you are in the
studio. Excuse me to say that, you know, I like you guys
a little bit younger than you guys, not too much. But I had
this love of Radio two and Igrew up in d C with the guys
out there, and when I cameout here and you were on KFI the
first time, and I was workinghere at the time because I started in
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eighty eight, and I had mentionedto you that because I was answering phones
at the time and I heard youon a weekend and I just said,
dude, I absolutely love the wayyou sound of the rate and you were
just doing regular straight talk. Andthen and then when you were gone and
when you came back and I hadthe unbelievable ability and fortune to to work
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with you, it it crystallized tome why I love radio. And you
know, and at that time,I kind of was doing my thing as
far as trying to get into acting, and you know, I wasn't there
five days a week, but thethings that I did with the groundlings and
stuff like that allowed me. Butbut everything that that you became and did,
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and and you know, in retrospect, I see the pressure that that
you had and you even put onyourself doing that show. We knew at
the time that it was something special. And the one thing, regardless of
the characters, the stick and allthat stuff, that that you showed me
on how to be in radio.Was the the emotional honesty that you put
out there, and I think that'sthat. That's what really connects me.
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Also with Tim is that, youknow, working with both of you guys,
I I know what the best radiois because of guys like you.
I love you, brother, Thankyou for that. I appreciate it.
And you know I remember you.Mike, Michael came out here. I
don't think I'm talking out of school. Mike was living out of his car
when he first got down and hesaid to me one night, he said,
I was sleeping on a park benchand this guy was approaching me.
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I was half awake. I knewthis guy was coming up to me,
and I'm thinking, now, Igot to kill this guy. I walked
past you or something. But you'rethinking of that? Am I nineteen years
old? I know I'm handsome,I'm good looking. Here comes that I'm
gonna have to kill a man.Now. Brozier is the best you were
and Phil, you were the onlyguy I think on this planet that actually
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calls me Mike. Oh serious,it's old school, man, it really
is old school. Sorry, butI can't thank you enough for coming so
much. Come by more often knockon the door. I don't know if
you guys will answer, but I'llbe down there going Hi, Phil,
Henry, go out and watch ittonight, Henry. It's everywhere on all
platforms. Great documentary. It's GoneBy show Mark Thompson's Who Others Were Live
on caf I AM six forty wayshow on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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Now you can always hear us liveon KFI AM six forty four to seven
pm Monday through Friday, and anytimeon demand on the iHeartRadio app.
It's KF I am six forty andyou're listening to the Conway Show on demand
on the iHeart Radio app. Ladiesand gentlemen, Phil Henry, nice to
see you, bus Man. Ohman. It's been a long time,
many many years, and I can'ttell you how excited everybody is to have
you on KFI again. It reallyis terrific. It's where I listened to
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hour after hour after hour of youdoing your show and and uh man,
everybody came in town, you know, from Howard Stern to uh you know,
even like you know, Buddy Mine, Rick Dy's, all these guys,
all the radio guys, you're theyyou're sort of like the Norm MacDonald
of stand up comedians, where theyall think you're the better, venerable,
yeah, the best, like thecomics comic Yeah you can't. You were
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in Kala six, yeah right,yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but you
were on board they were still likedoing music back in the eighties when they
were doing music. But when whenI was a caf I you were over
at Kayla six where they were stilldoing with free FM. Yeah right,
yeah, yeah, yeah, beforeAdam got there, but that's right,
yeah, yeah, then they hadDavid Lee Roth and then they said,
okay, well that didn't work out, and they rolled a hand gridade into
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the studio and at the end ofthe day, yeah, it was it
was Howard Stern. Then they playedmusic all day and then they went to
talk all day and and and whereThe first time I met you was at
that radio and TV Museum in BeverlyHills. Yeah, and we were up.
I remember being on the rooftop preppingthe show, wanting to jump,
and then going downstairs and doing theshow. I don't know how we did
that, but you know, doinga live show, doing what I was
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doing at live So you got tomake the bit work. You got to
make sure you get callers. Meantime, you have an audience that's going.
And that was the first time inmy life I ever saw myself on camera,
and it's it's it's significant because Ialways thought I was just doing a
radio show. I didn't know.I looked at myself and I I didn't
recognize the guy. Yeah, inand out of character, moving backwards and
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forwards away from the microphone, changingambience, changing facial expressions. It's great.
I thought I had a disease ofsome kind. I thought it was
I look at anytime Howard Stern wasin town, the first step being the
first place he wanted to stop wasto watch you do the show. Yeah
he did, That's what ostensibly whathe but it was really for money,
but I owed him. He did, and Howard was good. His agent
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was my well, my agent wasDavid castsh was with Buckwald. That was
the group of guys. So Ithink Howard was just sort of They told
him, would you go and sayhy to Phil? Make him feel good?
Okay? Yeah, right, SoSteed come into town and hang you
know, and then Karen Sharp fromthe FM would come over and go,
oh hi Howard and hug him,squeeze his ass. He'd be looking at
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me like, what is this I'mkitting around Karen? That's right, Karen
Sharvi's huge fansh Karen should have gotyou Texas yesterday when REV was on.
But how did how did the documentaryall come together? Well? Quite literally,
I was just probably at my houseone day, petting my cat,
and the phone rang and they said, I, Phil, this is Pat
uh Pat Reynolds and Jordan Brady.We are a couple of filmmakers and would
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you like to have lunch. We'dlike to do a documentary about you.
I said, sure. You knowhow long ago is this? This was
twenty eighteen? Oh wow? Yeah. And in fact, I have a
wonderful kid, my god's son,Joe Oldender, who's also a filmmaker himself.
He said, when did they startmaking this for twenty eighteen? What
are they just dragging their ass,aren't they? Patt? He introduced me
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to a buddy of his. Thisguy is going to do another movie.
I'm kidding. I'm actually not kidding, but I blew the guy off.
But anyway, So twenty eighteen,I go over to this a row of
beautiful offices in the studios at SantaMonica Airport, which is where Pat and
Jordan were located. They had thatproduction company, and we had Lunchally said
we'd like to do a documentary aboutyou. And I was saying to Sharon,
I'm such a really an honest guy. I didn't want to mess it
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up by saying, well, letme be a producer too. We can
start talking percentages. I thought,wow, if this is a doc it
has to be honest journalism. I'llstep away and let you guys do it.
I'm flattered that you want to dothis movie. So that's what happened,
and they began doing the movie thatcame out and interviewed me. They
got a whole crew of wonderful interviewsfrom guy is that it blows me away,
Henry Rollins and Bill Hayter and judAppato. I can't believe how I
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mean a a list celebrity, heavyweightdude. And by the way, they
don't all just talk about like ohI I you know, when I was
zipping through the station, I occasionallycaught his show. They're all major fans
that they'd spend hour after hour,day after day listening to your show.
They would talk about the with thethe art of it. Especially Henry broke
down how he said, now youtake the ellipse from one of the words,
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what are you talking about? Buthe actually talked about the breath control
it takes to go in and outof character. And Bill actually went into
character as Herb Sewell, one ofmy characters, one of his favorite characters.
But who is a child molester?That's the character going Bill? I
mean, but I watched this andpretty soon you don't want to watch it
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anymore because you're going I can't.It's scaring me. It's to this can't
be me. It's got to besomebody else it was listening to. First
of all, obviously, you knowKrozer was a big part of it.
You know, Michael Krozer was forthree years. Yeah, and I was.
I was telling Krozer, I said, he must have been a really
great part of it because working withyou, you had to, you know,
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get it, and you had tocontribute to the shower You're gone,
you know, the next producer comesin. For him to be there for
three years, that's a big dal. Mike, Mike contributed. He had
a whiteboard the first time that everused. I've seen how he would scribble
down lines, uh and it wouldtrigger us into this insane laughter. And
there's a bit on one of theCDs that that Mike actually threw one of
his writings on the whiteboard titled thebit, Oh that's great. And as
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soon as I saw what he'd writtenand now I think and I broke I
broke out laughing, and he started. Mike has that high pitch kind of
tackle, so you can hear himthroughout three minutes that was here, Mike
and I have a problem and literallyis yeah, I have this problem.
Seriously. It's related to narcolepsy.But my doctor told me when I laughed
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too hard, I lose muscular controlof that class. And so I remember
falling on the floor in the studioand I'm stop, but Mike he doesn't
care. He's like falling over laughing. So this is all in the bit
And Mike uh and and Joanah bothwere big, big parts of the show
early on when we started there.And uh, you know what what year
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did you start here at Camfine?I was was there too? Stints of
cafine? There was a first timewas I was just doing a regular talk
show, left being a disc jockey. I was dissatisfied. I knew the
talk radio is kind of where itwas at. So I got this weekend
job. George all of Us,who was the early program director, hired
me. Okay, well let's seewhat you can do. And I'm like,
this is Phil Henry and good evening. We have murvtt, some jackass
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that I brought. It's more manthat I brot him as a guest,
tell us about so the water systemin this country, And about a year
or that they mercifully fired me.And so I had to go out and
find my way. And I andI uh did a weekend stint stint at
Cake How, which is a rockstay in Redlands. Meanwhile, I made
a tape with me just pouring itall out there, just what would you
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do? Phil? And I threwit on this tape and the first person
to respond was Diane rem the programmerprogram director WCu. She's legendary program director,
great program director and said the following, Phil, it's fantastic. I
can't hire you. Wow. AndI thought, I'm onto something. Yeah,
CDs and Phil, he likes thetape and won't hire Me's something there.
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So I just sent this tape.I would go anywhere anybody would hire
me. And it was right upthe coast and ventur this little station kve
In, Oh wow. And RichColono gave me the best advice he could
possibly give me. He said,Phil, just do your show like you're
not gonna get one phone call.There were days that I didn't, you
know, and that freed me upto create whatever I wanted to for three
hours. But was that the moment, Phil, that you realized, Hey,
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I can create callers? And whereat what moment did they Yeah,
the synchronicity is that the word thesynergy there was the Desert Shield. The
Desert War was about to start andKuwait. So we had a build up
of troops in the in the summerof nineteen ninety American troops over there.
Americans were very emotional about it.And I thought that I would come on
one day as the as the hostas an Iraqi named Raj Finin, just
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to just dis mess with people,right, you know, I mean he
was Finan and uh, you knowpeople talk about Saddam Mussin. He's a
good guy. He's not a badguy, and this kind of stuff.
Well, my engineer is a guynamed Greg Glassman is in the other studio,
Greg Lassan. He's waving and going, we're getting phone calls for this
Iraqi. I said, well bringhim put them through. Oh that's classic.
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And so I remember the first guy, the first guys like, yeah,
I'm driving through your little berg here. This guy really thought, you
know, and you know, yougot people there when they come on like
they're one hundred bucks worth of youknow, life sense and this is driving
a berg and where are you from. Yes, at the end of the
Egypt, Uh, huh, well, let me tell you something, Sada
musin. It's a murderer. Nono, no, no, you're bad.
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You know. They probably too muchfast food for you. And gradually
things got weird. Yeah, partof the documentary. I love that the
piece they kept in the documentary whereafter nine to eleven where he said,
I'm going out to miniature golfing andI shot at thirty six just to make
sure that you know that the thatthe terrorst didn't win, that was Bobby
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Dooley, that she was invented herein La As. I was driving to
work one night to KFI and Iheard a woman on the phone at KABC
and she was talking about the valleysucceeding from LA That was the big story
back then. And my husband thinksthat, you know, the valley should
succeed in anything like this. Ithought that that's that voice is beautiful,
you know, And so that's whenI started doing Bobby. What a brilliant
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character. Bobby is like the originalgated Community Fascist Association president. And she
just you know, Phil, we'renot gonna let the terrorists. When we
went out we shot Ministry Gold whatever, dude, that's classic, all right,
Phil, Henry's whether it's Mark Thompsonthis, whether it's Conway show,
We'll come back and talk more aboutwith Phil about also his documentary that's on
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Amazon Prime. Yeah. In fact, Eric, he just he just texted
this. Make sure you tell Conwaythat we're no. He basically said,
it's on every It's on every platform. So every platform. Okay, all
right, every platform. You cango out there and see it on every
platform. Your name of the documentaryis Henry. Okay, yes, just
check it out. And Belly sawit last night. She loved it.
Belly Bell never looks at anything.You're listening to Tim conwayjun you're on demand
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from kf I am six forty PhilHenry the new documentary. Everyone's talking about
it. Henry. It is outon all the platforms. You can see
it anywhere, and he's with us. Nice to see you as always.
Man, It's great to see you, man. And during the commercial break,
we I think it was Belly orMark Thompson asked you where did that
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You know that annoying Bobby Dooley?Yeah, and that comes from your your
mom. Yeah, my mother isBobby Dooley. But the two female characters
that I do Margaret Gray and Bobbydool are two aspects of my mother.
I love my mother, but shewas kind of a psychopath, you know
it just so you could look mymother would look you up and down.
You could be telling her, mom, I just won the Nobel Prize for
chemistry, and she's looking you upand down. She's literally saying, are
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you gonna get are you gonna getthis? Trim? What are you pointing
at? Mommy? Just talking aboutthe Bell Prize? No, that's great.
Yeah, yeah, because there wassomething patronizing about the way Bobby Deeley
would interact, right, and thenyou'd also do that mm hm to interrupt
them. I mean it was whenand that just started, right Bobby,
It just started. I just Ijust started throwing it. And and so
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Bobby is saying to them, no, I'm here for you. I'm listening
to you. No you're not,you know, would you shut up?
That was the best part when theywould lose it at Bobby because she was
going another and my daughter is ina hospital, she has polio and another
thing. Would you stop that orI'll kill you? Where did you grow
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up back east? Arkadiak? Alright, so probably I'll out the race
track once they did bro In fact, I could hear it to this day.
I remember watching Gil Stratton, rememberGil Stratton doing Hello sports fans,
and then I'd run out of myfront lawn and listen to Joe Hernandez doing
the Oh that's wild. So youremember like the old you know, with
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the green sheet and the old daywith the with the track. But also
there's a station and a new stationhere in LA that would play the replays
so you could bet and then gohome and listen on the way home how
much you lost they did they dothe race of the day or someone?
Yeah, exactly exactly. Maybe backthen it was like K and X.
Yeah, but you grew up nearthe track. Then I grew up behind
the track and then yeah. Butone of the houses we've lived in two
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houses in Arcadie. My dad andmom bought a house that was up above
the track and we snuck in.We would go in underneath the fence as
little tiny kids and you and thenyou'd pick up all the tickets that the
betters threw away and you collected themand you thought they were worth something.
You know, Look at all thetickets I shot, They're all loosers,
you know. But we used tocollect tickets too, and then you go
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through them and like one out ofevery thousand would be like, oh,
two dollars two. But now theydon't let you do that. It's called
it's called stuppen now or stuppen,and they don't let you do that anymore
because all the dead tickets go tothe security union's benefits. So you can't
do that anymore. They'll throw youout of the track now if fleck tickets,
yeah, it's unblivable. But acrossthe street from the track was the
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jockey clubs. Yeah right, exactly. Yeah. We tried to break in
there once, but that's when theywould get on a Wednesday. They were
up on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. On a Wednesday
they get forty five thousand people off. It was amazing, man, it
was a great time. And uhand you know they and now they cancel
it when they might rain. Ihave mixed feelings now about horse racing.
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I don't want to piss anybody off, but my dear friends, I mean,
I grew up in Arcadia, soI've got a buddy who's a trainer.
He comes from a family of horsemen. I've got friends were the sons
and daughters of jockeys. It wasthat kind of a town, kay,
It was a small community. Ilearned how to drive at the sant Anito
parking lot. Oh that's great.Oh yeah, my father taught me.
To my father, I'll never getus. He'd take us all out there.
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Time for you to learn to drive, you know, everybody, let's
go. And he had two trafficcones and my poor brother he's teaching.
My brother goes, okay, that'sa little kid. That's an old lady
parked between them. And I'll neverforget poor brothers trying to park it out
here. My dad, go,you just killed an old lady. In
the documentary, Henry, I can'tbelieve all the footage that still exists.
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If you playing records, I mean, you look like you were, you
know, nine years oldys. Ohyeah, that was Kalis X and oh
and I listened to that and it'stwo different guys, you know, because
in those days, I don't knowwhat I was doing. I was I
was afraid of my own shadow.I wasn't sure that I even belonged,
you know, doing a radio show, and I was in my mid thirties,
and fine, I just said,you know, I better do this
if I want to do that.I knew I had talent, but I
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knew I had to just uh,I don't know what you'd call it,
man, just to just run nakedinto traffic or something, you know,
right, But you can even tellin the video of you, you know,
playing records, that you couldn't havebeen more bored doing that. Yeah,
you know, I mean even ata young age, you couldn't hide
it your head down. Okay,it's Billy Joel again. You know,
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here we go. And it wasa major market gig. Man, there's
kads that would die for a giglike that. But would you do calls
on that show at all? Film? No, No, they were like
not not even winners of the albumsor tickets or anything like that. They
wouldn't call it. I don't rememberif we did it was it was there?
It was straight Mary. It's Phil, Henry Kali sections one tickets to
see Stevie Ray Vaughan. That's wonderful. Yeah, hell man, all right,
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Phil Henry's whether it's Mark Thompson aswell. Go see the documentary Henry.
It's everywhere on all platforms. Checkit out. It's great and everyone's
talking about it. You're listening toTim Conway Junior on demand from KFI AM
six forty. It's Phil Hendry's whetherit's the brand new documentary out Hendry.
You can get on all the platforms, and man, I I just enjoy
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talking during the commercial breaks because wecan talk about things and use language you
can't talk about on the air,obviously, but but you know, just
talk. Looking back on on yourcareer, you know, the big syndication
deal. I remember reading I thinkit was on LA Radio or Orange County
Register that you know, Phil Henrysigns the biggest syndication deal you know of
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that time, and I thought,man, I was so jealous of how
you know, what a big dealand that was a huge, big time
in your life. I remember runninginto you and you were happy as hell.
You just had a brand new wife, I hope. So, yeah,
you had a brand new wife.I remember you had a big old
house out in Westlake and it wasit was great, and you acted like
you've been in the business for oneday. You're always very humble and very
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interested in whatever else was doing,and it was just it was it was
great to meet you back then whenyou know, when it was like thirty
years ago, but you know,it was like it was only fifteen,
tim But that's okay, I reallyof old aged. But did now did
you when your show was syndicated?Was that a hassle for you? Or
did you enjoy it? Because thatwas a big deal when that happened,
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It was a big deal and Iwas nationwide. Thank god, you have
good reason me back then because Iremember being a basket case and I was
married, and I also had fourstep children, and I remember that yet,
yeah, and I think it wassomething about me. Maybe is my
Catholic upbringing thing? And you hadall of this success. Now you've got
to do something good. Okay.Most guys would say, look at all
the let's go out and you know, let's go bar hopping with so how
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many women we can get in onelike three hour period. But no,
I decided I'd get married and takecare of four children, and I'd buy
a big house and oh yeah,on top of that, have this radio
show, and on top of thata radio show where I have to invent
these guests and have people call in, and you know, I'm surprised that
I didn't develop some tumor or something. But I was having a ball.
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But it was a lot of pressure, man, And I think the life
that I picked out for myself,it probably could have been easier, you
know. But nonetheless, we hadsome great shows, and we had a
lot of good talks do in thoseshows, and then you know, we'd
go out and do remotes and theplaces we were popular La Miami, but
Salt Lake City, now why thatshow was huge in Salt Lake City.
It was huge in Wilmington, NorthCarolina. I don't know how you get
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these pockets of fans, but PhilHendrys with us. Your your love for
radio is exactly mine. When Iwas a kid, I was punished a
lot as a kid, so Iwas in my I wasn't a big fan
of music, so I'd listen.I'd be sent to my room after school,
you know, come down to eatdinner, and right back to your
room. And I'd listen to talkradio all the time. And my grandparents
did, my dad did, mymom did. But even listening to stories
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of you, like with with CaseyCasem and you know, those are the
guys that were bigger than life.You heard him on radio. You heard
him coming out of the speakers yourhome, in your car, and then
to meet him is it's it's likemeeting you know, the like you know
your favorite athlete in the world.I mean, these guys were bigger than
life. They were man, theywere they and the things they knew how
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to do. You wanted to knowhow to do. You want to know
how to talk, how to talkup a record, hit the post perfectly,
how to be so fluent. AndI saw Casey Cason when I was
thirteen. I used to ride mybike to the Huntings and Shirt and Hotel
which is now the Langham Hotel andgo in there and I'd see him working
and he said, my kids,here are you. I'll come out and
talk to you, and just doI'm Cacy Casu And he come out and
this is how short I was.Then I was looking up at him and
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like ad almost a forty five degreeaim. Casey wasn't the biggest thing out
of tall man, No there is, but I watched him working professionally,
and then later got to know him. We were all over at Westwood One
and a premiere. He was apremier and he'd say, so you you
knew me. Yeah, I'm funny. I don't remember you at all.
Thanks, so actually, excuse me, I'm trying to get through here,
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I try to get here. Thisis being used. So actually I remembered
him from we did a shot atCasey et twenty eight. Remember back when
they CACT would do fundraisers Cherry andwhen do we get the get radio guys.
Let's do the radio guys. Youguys are BLib sure And I sat
next to him, and Casey wassuch a pro. I'm going and Channel
twenty eight would like to have yourmoney. Case we go, and then
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you can donate your money to Channeltwenty eight, right, Phil turns to
me first of me, Yeah,that's right Casey. All right, this
piece we're gonna play people, you'reyoung, made not of you know.
Got to listen to you as oftenas Mark and I did. Uh and
and also to a Krozier. Uh. This piece is the burning the burning
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bugs piece, Burning Bugs. Okay, this is great? Is this neat
a set up? Or as weit's all? It should be pretty good.
Second take all, right, herewe go. Here we're talking with
this gentleman who went to a accidentscene in Pasadena on the two ten this
afternoon and attempted to, in hiswords, assist in the investigation because it
was a female officer a loan whathe thought was a junior officer. What
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are you collecting evidence? Yeah,that's right, So I keep a magnifying
glass in my car and wait,wait, wait, wait a second.
This is a police investigation of ascene in an accident. That is correct.
Yes, you're retired, Yes,sir, I am retired, and
I have spent my life loving thiscountry and supporting our police. What I
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did was, after the officer toldme to back off, I went to
my car and I got out mymagnify glass and immediately went to work on
the crime scene. I got onmy hands and knees and began just analyzing
the asphalt behind my car because Ididn't want to piss the cop. Pop.
So, but you were nowhere nearthe scene. I was not near
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the crime scene at that particular point. What I thought I would do is
do a little, uh you know, basic investigation behind the scene. For
a while, I was on myhands and knees looking for evidence. Then
I got bored. You acted me. Okay, you were doing what my
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hands and like idolizing evidence with themagna fie glass. Then I got bored.
That's great. Well, that's great. That's so great, man,
that's great. That is so awesome. You can hear Krozier in the background.
Man, you did that, Mike. Mike had that board and he
would write down all kinds of stuffand would put me away. You remember,
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I got I got Disney they pulledtheir advertising from us, uh for
god good six months because we didthe bit about uh uh that we did
funerals on Tom Sorry Island and Iand I played the now it's time to
say And then you took your yourtape and you did this like it was
flames the old macking mouse steam out. You can take you, you can
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take your loved one over the whateverit was Tom Sawyer's island on a burning
funeral pirate and you have the you'dhave the characters standing around Mickey mess yeah
to the fire side effects. Ohthat's great. Phil Henry is with us.
Go watch Henry. It's on allthe platforms. Great documentary are on.
Michael Krozier's in it as well.You're right, and there are a
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bunch of bits. I mean,if you like the Henry Bitch. They
animated bunch. It's really funny.You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from kf I am six forty Phil. Henry's with us the documentary. Henry
is out there and everyone's talking aboutit. Everybody is I've seen it.
Bellio's looked at it. She doesn'tlook at anything. Now. There's so
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many funny bits, and I wantedto We were talking about this before,
Tim, when we were just kindof hanging out, the fact that there's
so many people who are in thedocumentary who are like famous celebrities and also
very funny people. Bill Hater He'sone of them, and there are a
ton of them, John Appata,et cetera. And what I was saying
to you, Phil, is thatit's one thing for them to be listeners.
I mean, after all, youwere on in Los Angeles where they
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could listen to you, but theyweren't just listeners. They were fans.
They reached out to you. Youtold me Dwight Yoakam called Dwight Yoakum,
Dwight, if you're out there,how come you stopped calling? That's kind
of interesting, But anyway, itwas great knowing you Dwight all those five
minutes ago. But yeah, therewere and and we had cats, and
I don't think I'm talking out ofschool. We had guys calling us.
Jonah Wiland was my producer at thetime, and Mike knows this. He
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come running the guys from just shootingme called again and they've got another idea
for you. Remember the show isjust the writers would be calling in or
they'd be hearing our ball that they'dbe suggesting ideas and how all that awesome?
That's right. And Neil Patrick Harris, he would call it all the
Neil Patrick Harris called it all thetime. And uh, I don't know
who else man but Grinning, whoMatt Grant, Matt Granny, Mett Grinning
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invited us over to Simpsons. Wehad all the guys, Jonah and Mike
and I went over to the Simpsonsand watching the classic do a thing.
And I think Mack got disappointed mebecause I became a warmonger just for laughs.
Well, what was your relationship withwith Stern? Did that when he
came out here? You guys goout and have drains then? I mean,
Howard was a professional acquaintance, buta good man, a nice man
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and like what I did, Andof course I respected what he was able
to achieve in his life and career. But he came out here primarily for
women, and also he came outin primarily probably. But he was with
Don Buckwell, who was his agent, and my agent worked for down so
we'd have lunch. In fact,we were having lunch one day at a
hotel and he figured out he foundout that Rosy O'Donnell I think was upstairs
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and wanted to get into a bellbellhop hat plan and bust into a room.
It didn't happen. And so wheredid you end up? Now?
You're up in you talk about whereyou live. Yeah, I'm up in
in Ventura and I have a homeabout a block off the sand there.
Because I don't if you want tobe two ostentatious, sure, but it's
so great up there. You knowwhere we were talking during the break when
it's one hundred and fifteen in thevalley. We drive up there and you
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got to put a sweater on.It's sixty eight degrees and it's kind of
almost central coast, Man, it'salmost not and so there's a lot of
sea lions, there's a lot offog. You know, it's it's very
Cape Cattish, and I the onlything I don't like is that it's so
bloody far away from working in Layou know, you ride like two hours
every time I go anywhere. Likewe we asked you to come on the
(26:14):
show, and you thought it wasat seven thirty. I thought it was
at seven thirty. And I'm sittingaround in my underwear and I'm heading the
cat and I'm like, well,time for right, time for another milky
way. I think I've funder Okay, let's see it. And I'm scrolling
my phone looking for naked pictures ofsomething in there. It says Phil Henry
at five and you should have seenme move as fast as I could.
(26:36):
Man. I jumped in the car. Thank god, it was like three
o'clock and anyway, take me twohours, right because it could be a
two hour drive exactly exactly. AndI got here with twenty minutes to spare
shirt or something like that. Butyou know, Phil's gonna be more on
camera work. He was saying,like he's say, you know Gray's Anatomy
and very oh, just they justdid a Gray's Anatomy was just on in
fact, and Uh, that's agreat example. They shoot that at a
(26:56):
place called what is the name ofthe studio again, Uh, you're talking
about Prospect Prospect Studios, which isused to be there. Yeah. It's
as far into East LA at EastHollywood as you can get. And I'm
out there, and so for asix thirty call, I got to get
out of bed and get in thecar by four thirty am. And yeah,
and I'm getting off the freeway andI'm you know, going over there.
So not that I'm not complaining folksthat I had a TV crazy man.
(27:19):
I mean, you know, Idon't think I'll take those gigs anymore.
They're just too far away. Yeah, you guys come to me the
inconsideration of these jackasses. But no, it was great. But yeah,
it's pretty early to go to work. So yeah, that'd be nice to
move closer to town and move backto where you But it is nice to
you know, it is like thecentral Coast up there, and you'll find
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and I'm sure this has happened toyou, You'll find a local bar where
locals go and and you can,you know, you get right into with
them. And man, the storiesare great. The stories are and our
little restaurant up there's a place calledQuincy Street that's owned by a stuntman,
Denny. His wife karenly owned thisplace, and so he's got pictures of
himself. Oh that's all. Comein, daddy, How you doing,
baby, it's great. Hey,look at this Phil And he'll show me
(28:03):
a video of himself getting blown outof a car or something. What happened.
I'm fine, I'm conscious now ifI browned out. He's showed me
this video of himself where a cardoor explodes and hits was walking away and
I said, are you all right? He said, I'm pretty sure I
am. When did that happen twoweeks ago? Wow? Oh, so
he's still working as Oh, he'sstill working. Yeah. And he and
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his wife owned the restaurant, andhe's got pictures of himself with John Trevoe.
It's a typical, you know,cool little restaurant to go and throw
back a Long Island nice tea.Which and they're deadly up there, by
the way, so I recommend them, but that but that's a great place
to get out of Hollywood and getout of Los Angeles and it and it's
almost like going back to Maine.Or the East coast where everything is nautical.
There's old ropes, there's old youknow, sailboat parts and there,
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and there's even small guys. There'slike old guys will be sitting at the
bar and how you doing, Phil, I still got your Oh I got
the forty two foot Colorfordia. Yeah, we're gonna go over to the cove
and and I just said, doyou relax over there? Huh? I
relax. I'm I'm gonna tell youabout it. He t t can I
can take a moment here if you'llindulge me, because this is I watched
(29:07):
the documentary last week and and thesecond it came on, and I was
I told my wife, my secondwife, not the one that I was
with you, Phil, but Itold her so many stories from from working
with you in the time, andit just it totally took me back watching
the documentary and it was incredible forme, and I wanted to take the
(29:29):
moment now that I know that thatboth Tim and and you are in the
studio. Excuse me to say that, you know, I like you guys
a little bit younger than you guys, not too much. But I had
this love of Radio two and Igrew up in d C with the guys
out there, and when I cameout here and you were on KFI the
first time, and I was workinghere at the time because I started in
(29:49):
eighty eight, and I had mentionedto you that because I was answering phones
at the time and I heard youon a weekend and I just said,
dude, I absolutely love the wayyou sound of the rate and you were
just doing regular straight talk. Andthen and then when you were gone and
when you came back and I hadthe unbelievable ability and fortune to to work
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with you, it it crystallized tome why I love radio. And you
know, and at that time,I kind of was doing my thing as
far as trying to get into acting, and you know, I wasn't there
five days a week, but thethings that I did with the groundlings and
stuff like that allowed me. Butbut everything that that you became and did,
(30:30):
and and you know, in retrospect, I see the pressure that that
you had and you even put onyourself doing that show. We knew at
the time that it was something special. And the one thing, regardless of
the characters, the stick and allthat stuff, that that you showed me
on how to be in radio.Was the the emotional honesty that you put
out there, and I think that'sthat. That's what really connects me.
(30:52):
Also with Tim is that, youknow, working with both of you guys,
I I know what the best radiois because of guys like you.
I love you, brother, Thankyou for that. I appreciate it.
And you know I remember you.Mike, Michael came out here. I
don't think I'm talking out of school. Mike was living out of his car
when he first got down and hesaid to me one night, he said,
I was sleeping on a park benchand this guy was approaching me.
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I was half awake. I knewthis guy was coming up to me,
and I'm thinking, now, Igot to kill this guy. I walked
past you or something. But you'rethinking of that? Am I nineteen years
old? I know I'm handsome,I'm good looking. Here comes that I'm
gonna have to kill a man.Now. Brozier is the best you were
and Phil, you were the onlyguy I think on this planet that actually
(31:37):
calls me Mike. Oh serious,it's old school, man, it really
is old school. Sorry, butI can't thank you enough for coming so
much. Come by more often knockon the door. I don't know if
you guys will answer, but I'llbe down there going Hi, Phil,
Henry, go out and watch ittonight, Henry. It's everywhere on all
platforms. Great documentary. It's GoneBy show Mark Thompson's Who Others Were Live
on caf I AM six forty wayshow on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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Now you can always hear us liveon KFI AM six forty four to seven
pm Monday through Friday, and anytimeon demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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