Separated by Force: Afstandsmoeders in the Netherlands
Between 1956 and 1984, thousands of unmarried, pregnant women in the Netherlands were forced to give their babies away. This podcast discovers this dark chapter of Dutch history by hearing the experience of the women as well as the children. Furthermore, legal experts and historians will explain the social situation during that time in order to give attention to the injustice that has been done to Dutch women and their children for decades. Please support us by listening and sharing this podcast - so the afstandsmoeders and children can finally get the justice they deserve. Producer and presented by Sarah Tekath Production partner: Stichting Broadcast Amsterdam (https://broadcastamsterdam.nl) [Photo by Molly Blackbird on Unsplash]
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August 26, 2021 • 18 mins
Net zoals discriminatie van vrouwen in Nederland en de rest van de wereld nog steeds problematisch is, zo ook het systeem van (internationale) adoptie. Bijna niemand weet dit zo goed als Ina Hut.
Van 2003 tot 2009 was zij directeur van Wereldkinderen, een van de grootste adoptiebureaus van Nederland. Tijdens haar periode bij deze organisatie begon ze met onderzoek naar de achtergronden van adopties van kinderen uit China en werd ze ...
Van 2003 tot 2009 was zij directeur van Wereldkinderen, een van de grootste adoptiebureaus van Nederland. Tijdens haar periode bij deze organisatie begon ze met onderzoek naar de achtergronden van adopties van kinderen uit China en werd ze ...
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August 26, 2021 • 15 mins
Just as discrimination against women in the Netherlands and around the world is still problematic, so can the system of (international) adoption be problematic. Hardly anyone knows this as well as Ina Hut.
From 2003 till 2009 she was the Executive Director of the organisation Wereldkinderen, one of the biggest adoption agencies in the Netherlands. During her time at this organisation, she started to investigate the background of ad...
From 2003 till 2009 she was the Executive Director of the organisation Wereldkinderen, one of the biggest adoption agencies in the Netherlands. During her time at this organisation, she started to investigate the background of ad...
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August 26, 2021 • 19 mins
In this podcast, we have learned about the discrimination of unmarried pregnant women between 1956 and 1984. Is it now safe to say that things are all good for (pregnant/unmarried) women in the Netherlands? Unfortunately, not quite. There is still a lot of work today. Legal advisor Linde Bryk of Bureau Clara Wichmann explains in this episode, why discrimination of women in the Netherlands is still an issue.
Website Bureau Clara Wich...
Website Bureau Clara Wich...
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August 26, 2021 • 38 mins
Deze aflevering gaat in op de aspecten van institutioneel geweld en hertraumatisering van de afstandsmoeders en afstandskinderen in Nederland, aangezien hun reis natuurlijk niet eindigde op het moment dat ze het moeder-baby-huis hebben verlaten. Verschillende situaties in hun leven kunnen aanleiding zijn voor wat er in het verleden is gebeurd.
Dr. Sietske Dijkstra is psycholoog en ze werkte tien jaar als onderzoeker bij de universit...
Dr. Sietske Dijkstra is psycholoog en ze werkte tien jaar als onderzoeker bij de universit...
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August 26, 2021 • 32 mins
This episode is going to focus on the aspects of institutional violence and retraumatisation of the Afstandsmoeders and Afstandskinderen in the Netherlands as – obviously – their journey did not end the moment they have left the mother-baby-homes. Several situations in their lives can be triggers of what has happened in the past.
Dr. Sietske Dijkstra is a psychologist and was working at the University of Utrecht for ten years in th...
Dr. Sietske Dijkstra is a psychologist and was working at the University of Utrecht for ten years in th...
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Also in Ireland women and their children were separated by force. German freelance journalist Mareike Graepel is going to explain in this episode, how the system in Ireland worked and why the catholic church had a crucial part in it. In the second part of this episode, we are going to meet Clodagh Malone who was born in the St. Patrick mother baby home in Dublin as well as Maggie Corbett who gave birth tot wo daughters in 1976 and ...
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‚Kinder waren in der DDR immer politisch‘. In dieser Folge sprechen Journalistin Anne Klesse und Afstandsmoeder und Aktivistin Regina Labahn über das politisch-legitimierte System in der DDR, Familie, die nicht systemtreu waren, die Kinder wegzunehmen und stattdessen in systemtreue Familien zu geben.
Anne Klesse hat in 2009 für die Berliner Morgenpost zu DDR-Kindern recherchiert und hat dabei zahlreiche Betroffene interviewt. Regin...
Anne Klesse hat in 2009 für die Berliner Morgenpost zu DDR-Kindern recherchiert und hat dabei zahlreiche Betroffene interviewt. Regin...
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August 26, 2021 • 33 mins
'Children were always political in the GDR'. In this episode, journalist Anne Klesse and Afstandsmoeder and activist Regina Labahn talk about the politically legitimized system in the GDR, families who were not loyal to the system, taking their children away and instead giving them to families loyal to the system.
Anne Klesse researched GDR children for the Berliner Morgenpost in 2009 and interviewed numerous victims. Regina Labahn ...
Anne Klesse researched GDR children for the Berliner Morgenpost in 2009 and interviewed numerous victims. Regina Labahn ...
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August 26, 2021 • 46 mins
Nadat we ons in de vorige afleveringen hebben gefocust op afstandsmoeders, gaan we het nu hebben over afstandskinderen. Dr. Eugénie Smits van Waesberghe is één van hen. Ze werd geboren in het moeder-kind-tehuis Moederheil in Breda. Ze publiceerde meerdere boeken over afstandsmoeders en afstandskinderen en is als ervaringsdeskundige aanwezig in de Nederlandse media en het lopende onderzoek door de Nederlandse autoriteiten.
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August 26, 2021 • 35 mins
After we have focussed on afstandsmoeders in the previous episodes, we will now talk about afstandskinderen. Dr. Eugénie Smits van Waesberghe is one of them. She was born in the mother-baby-home Moederheil in Breda. She has published several books about afstandsmoeders and afstandskinderen and as a ervaringsdeskundige she is present in the Dutch media and the current investigation by the Dutch authorities.
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August 26, 2021 • 44 mins
In 1967 raakte Will van Sebille zwanger en werd onder druk gezet om haar zoon af te staan. Lange tijd vocht ze om haar zoon terug te krijgen, maar de autoriteiten bleven redenen verzinnen waarom dit niet mogelijk was. Uiteindelijk werd de zoon van Will geadopteerd in een ander gezin en het duurde tientallen jaren voordat ze elkaar eindelijk voor het eerst ontmoetten.
Sinds de jaren 90 strijdt Will van Sebille voor de Nederlandse afs...
Sinds de jaren 90 strijdt Will van Sebille voor de Nederlandse afs...
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August 26, 2021 • 33 mins
In 1967, Will van Sebille got pregnant and was pressured to give up her son. For a long time, she was fighting to get her son back, but the authorities kept making up reasons why this was not possible. In the end, Will’s son was adopted into another family and it took several decades until they finally met for the first time.
Since the 1990s, Will van Sebille is fighting for the Dutch afstandsmoeders. She has founded the organisati...
Since the 1990s, Will van Sebille is fighting for the Dutch afstandsmoeders. She has founded the organisati...
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August 26, 2021 • 15 mins
In de jaren 60 raakte Trudy Scheele-Gertsen op 21-jarige leeftijd zwanger. Omdat ze ongehuwd was, werd ze naar het moeder-babyhuis Paula Stichting gebracht waar ze bevallen was van haar zoon en onder druk werd gezet om hem af te staan. 50 jaar later, in 2019, besloot Trudy de Nederlandse staat aan te klagen wegens onrecht dat haar was aangedaan. Zij wordt bijgestaan door mensenrechtenadvocaat Lisa-Marie Komp die in de tweede afle...
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August 26, 2021 • 13 mins
In the 1960s, at the age of 21, Trudy Scheele-Gertsen got pregnant. As she was unmarried, she was brought to the mother baby home Paula Stichting where she gave birth to her son and was pressured to give him up. 50 years later, in 2019, Trudy decided to sue the Dutch state for injustice she was put through. She is represented by human rights lawyer Lisa-Marie Komp who speaks about the legal situation in the second episode of this p...
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August 26, 2021 • 35 mins
Het moeder-kind-tehuis Moederheil in Breda was een van de grootste van Nederland. In 1972, op een leeftijd van 24, begon psycholoog Harlinde van Osselaer daar te werken. Al snel merkte ze daar dat het voor een plek waar altijd meerdere baby's waren ontzettend stil was. Later ontdekkte ze waarom. In deze aflevering beschrijft Harlinde het moeder-kind-tehuis Moederheil, haar werk met de moeders en de baby's en haar poging om de proce...
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August 26, 2021 • 31 mins
The mother-baby-home Moederheil in Breda was one of the biggest in the Netherlands. In 1972, at an age of 24 years old, psychologist Harlinde van Osselaer started working there. Quickly, she noticed that for a place where multiple babies lived, it was awfully quiet. Soon she’d find out why. In this episode, Harlinde describes the mother-baby-home Moederheil, her work with the mothers and the babies and her attempt to improve the pr...
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August 26, 2021 • 23 mins
Human Rights Lawyer Lisa-Marie Komp represents afstandsmoeder Trudy Scheele-Gertsen against the Dutch state. In this episode, she explains the legal situation of the time from 1956 till 1984. Furthermore, she will talk about the legal advice young unmarried pregnant women have been given, the responsibilities of the child care and protection board and what should have been done in order to protect the bond between a mother and her ...
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August 26, 2021 • 33 mins
In order to understand how a situation like the one of the afstandsmoeders in the Netherlands was possible, it is important to understand what the country looked like in those days. Dr. Nelleke Bakker is an Associate Professor of History of Education at the University of Groningen and she will explain in this episode, what made the society tick, which institutions had the strongest influence, how the role of women was seen within t...
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July 23, 2021 • 1 min
Between 1956 and 1984, thousands of unmarried, pregnant women in the Netherlands were forced to give their babies away. This podcast discovers this dark chapter of Dutch history by hearing the experience of the women as well as the children. Furthermore, legal experts and historians will explain the social situation during that time in order to give attention to the injustice that has been done to Dutch women and their children for...
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