White People Won't Save You

White People Won't Save You

A podcast that deconstructs the white savior trope in film, and recenters the Black and PoC chaaracters and actors in them.

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April 17, 2024 139 mins

We talking about Jazz y'all! Specifically the 2016 film, La La Land. The hype, the 14 Academy Award nominations, the viral Moonlight moment, 8 years later, is this movie still mid? You know it! 

We're joined by the hilarious Roxxy Haze to discuss, why did white people love this movie so much, did you remember any of the songs, and much more! 

Roxxy is so talented, you definitely need to check out support all she has going on. Comed...

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In celebration of our first live show coming this Sunday (April 14th at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective, get tickets here! ) we're flashing back to one of our first episodes! Hopefully you'll join us this Sunday and our guest Dylan Green (Pitchfork, Reel Notes Podcast) as we dive back into this mess!

 

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April 3, 2024 121 mins

Phew! Every once in a while we find a movie that makes you ask, "how is this real?" This is one of those ones. We call in WPWSY Hall of Famer Shawn Pryor to discuss a movie that has Tony Todd, Stacy Dash, and *checks notes* Ray Parker Jr.? 

We discuss the absurdity of the Vampire gang, give Psycho his flowers, and just marvel at the many wild turns this movie takes. 

Shawn is out here putting in work! Go to his website to find his ...

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Despite the title of the movie, we've got a lot to say about this one! Joined by our friends at Blerdy Massacre, we discuss the 2020 smash sequel A Quiet Place Part II. We discuss man on island, what we expect with two Black people in the upcoming film, and pick some of our favorite Black horror films!

Much love to Sharai and Xero for joining us! Do yourself a favor and chec...

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Oh, you thought we were done!? After we finished talking with Aisha, we still had thoughts to get off, so enjoy this extended conversation as we get to more quotes from director Kobi Libbi, dig deeper into some of the supposed themes, and ask if Justice Smith's character stumbled on a copy of Wretched of the Earth after getting kicked out of the society. 

Some news! We're going to be live in NY and Baltimore coming up in April and ...

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You asked and we delivered. A movie that should have been funny and insightful but instead turned out to be one of the most confusing films in recent memory, The American Society of Magical Negroes is something we have to talk about. Before you ask, it's everything you feared and maybe a bit more. We break it all down so you don't have to see it, including some intriguing quotes from Kobi Libbi and our thoughts on ways this concept...

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March 14, 2024 137 mins

Award season has come to an end, so we look back at a past awards  darling to see how it holds up today. Spoiler, it doesn't. 2009's Invictus tells the story of Nelson Mandela and the 1995 South African World Cup rugby team and earned Oscar nominations for both Morgan Freeman and Matt Damon. Lucky for us, Fatimah Gilliam (author of Race Rules: What Your Black Friend Won't Tell You) is here to help us break it all down! 

We discuss ...

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February 28, 2024 121 mins

Today! We travel back to simpler times, before cinematic universes, to a world of ridiculous costumes, confused racial stereotypes, and a villain who only operates at 10. We're talking 1996's The Phantom, and we're joined by the amazing Tarik Davis (The Amber Ruffin Show). 

We talk about the poorly named "rope people", if The Phantom actually has any powers, and his ghost dad's bizarre interest in his sex life. We also discuss the ...

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February 15, 2024 102 mins

A white supremacist romantic thriller? Say it ain't so. Today we discuss 1988's Betrayed, a movie that asks, "is it love if you don't hunt a Black man with an uzi in the middle of the night"?

We're joined by the fabulous Chauncey K. Robinson to talk about if Tom Berenger understands kissing, if Debra Winger is the worst undercover agent, and much more! 

Many thank to Chauncey! Be sure to check her out at @Mschaunceykr on Twitter an...

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February 1, 2024 116 mins

We take a break from the never ending parade of white saviors to talk about a movie we actually liked, American Fiction. Written and directed by Cord Jefferson, and starring Jeffery Wright, Sterling K. Brown, Erika Alexander, and Traci Ellis Ross, it recently was nominated for 4 Academy Awards. 

We talk about the amazing cast, our thoughts on the message of the movie, parallels to Bamboozled and 40 Year Old Version and much more! 

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January 18, 2024 123 mins

Oooof! We swear we love Denzel, but this week we travel back to look at his very first movie, 1981's Carbon Copy. Someone thought of white dad, Black son, and took the rest of the day off. 

There's a million things wrong with this movie, but most of all it's the waste of Denzel. We discuss the tired gags, how the director of Coolie High could have been behind this, and much more! 

Also, don't think we let Nikki "what was the Civil ...

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January 4, 2024 140 mins

Just in time for 2024, our 2023 wrap up! Jordan and Cameron take a look back at the year that was, the good and the bad.

We give our picks for best movies and music, as well as talk about some of the more problematic figures of the year *cough Eric Adams, Kanye Cough*, and finally things we're looking forward to in 2024. 

Another year, and we're so grateful to you all for listening! This show wouldn't be what it is without you. We ...

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December 20, 2023 124 mins

Happy Holidays everyone! As we do this time of year, we welcome our sisters Carmen and Kemet to join us on the show. Our selection this year, the controversial 1982 film, White Dog. 

Directed by Samuel Fuller and shelved by Paramount before it was even released, the film follows a racist dog who goes on a rampage, and we have questions. Like what the audition process was like for the Black people getting attacked by dogs. Also, why...

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This one is special! We're so thrilled to be joined by Joel Robinson, a member of the Osage Nation, and professor of Native American and global indigenous media studies, Joanna Hearne, to discuss the current state of Native representation in media. 

It's an incredible conversation that covers Killers of the Flower Moon, Reservation Dogs, some film history, and tons of great recommendations to watch. 

We're super grateful to both Jo...

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November 23, 2023 145 mins

As the Holiday season starts up, we turn towards a classic, and one we've been low-key avoiding. But the time has finally come for us to watch one of the craziest movies we've seen so far, 1964's Black Like Me.  

We're joined by friend of the show Dare Johnson to talk about a movie where a white man pretends to be Black to see "what it's like." If that wasn't bad enough, it's based on a real experiment done by journalist John Howar...

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*Note, unfortunately we had some recording issues on this episode and lost part of our conversation, but we still have a great episode for you and Kaili will be back!

You know we had to talk about this one! We're joined by the super talented Kaili Y. Turner to discuss the buzziest Oscar film of the season, Martin Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon. 

Based on the book of the same name and depicting the heinous Osage Indian murder...

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October 26, 2023 127 mins

Ladies and gentlemen, 2021's Karen.

 

 

 

Wait...you need us to say more? Well, in honor of the spooky season, we subjected ourselves to one of the most absurd movies we've watched yet. Cameron and Jordan discuss what the hell everyone involved was thinking, the Get Out effect on Black horror, and a Cee-Lo Green song so bad it makes us long for Taylor Swift's cover of September. 

With all the uncertainty in the world, hope everyone...

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October 11, 2023 104 mins

Ever wonder what West Side Story would be like if you took out all the songs, dancing, drama, and replaced it with fake combat dancing and crack? Well, you get 1989's extremely confusing film, Rooftops. 

Actually directed by West Side Story's Robert Wise and completely wasting Tisha Campbell and Allen Payne, this one was a real head scratcher. Jordan and Cam talk the bait and switch of the trailer, the absurd "dance combat", and Lo...

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September 27, 2023 128 mins

This week, we step into the ring to go 12 rounds with the one and only Denzel Washington. We're joined in our corner by comedian Drexton Clemons (Game Breakers on Prime) to break down 1999's The Hurricane. 

The story of Rubin Carter, a boxer wrongly convicted of murder, it got Denzel a Golden Globe and an Oscar nomination. It was also almost all lies. We get into the real story of Rubin's trial, if there has ever been as absurd a c...

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September 14, 2023 88 mins

WE BACK BABBBBYYYYYY! Saviorless Summer is over and the time has come to return and karate chop these white savior movies in the neck. 

And what better way to start than with Ninja Vengeance! Have you ever wondered what it would look like if a white ninja fought the KKK? Look no further than this mess of a B-movie that...look, it's a lot. A love subplot with the chemistry of an Ikea manual. The karate of a community theater product...

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