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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, Rory back for another episode of Rory Maul
don't know Ball. We actlualely do not know ball. Maybe
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We're learning as this is going.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But this is this is why we have this platform
now to bring on some of our friends that absolutely
do no ball. And today we are joined by North
Babylon legend. You want to see Tall Hill alumni fifteen
year fifteen NBA ve You got to say put an
interest in fifteen because that's an incredible accomplishment to last
fifteen years in the NBA, three time world champion. We
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are joined by New York's finance Danny Green. Can I
call you a green Ranger?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Green Ranger definitely feel like into pause after you that.
I don't know what give you explanation of why it's pause.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It just feels like a Paul yeah, man. So Danny,
how you feeling, man, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I'm feeling good. I appreciate you'll having on the pod Man.
It's a true honor. I've never been at your dude, Like,
nobody ever recognized as North Babylon, say Long Island or
New York. But yeah, to hear North Babylon as it's
been a while, I said, I went to Saint Mary's
as well. But yeah, man from New York and people
don't really respect Long Island that much either.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They know one of my one of my guys, man
great trainer, Jerry Powell out there North Babylon. That'smile. That's
my guy JP man, one of the best, that's the best.
Probably him and Brick are probably the two best trainers
that I think are in the game right now. So
shout out to my man, Jerry Powell.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And shout out to Coasey Blackburn that no one would
know my friend that went to North Babylon High School.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, yeah, that's that's random.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
You might have been at Saint Mary's by the time
he was there. He's a year older than me, but
yes we are. We're both very familiar with North Babylon.
We've taken Long Island Railroad many of times to see
many of Long Island women more and more.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But he's gotten before.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Ice was my my first trainer, probably since I was
in like seventh eighth grade.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh yeah, that's how far back. Yeah, me and Jerry go.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, man's led and legendary. I mean, if you ever
had a chance to be in one of Jerry's workouts.
Man Like, it's not just the trainer's how he like
he talks to the to the.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Mental approach man, where he talks to you. Got to
be able to New York thing. He needs it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
He needs a show, he needs a Heck, he needs
cameras following him in the gyms at all time. But
how you feeling, Danny, How you've been?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Man, I've been great. Bro.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
It's a it's an adjustment for most people retirement. For me,
it wasn't that that big of an adjustment because I
kind of started to have help around me. You guys me,
I'm Jeed Harrison. Transitioned me into the media side of it,
and you know.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Watching the game.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
And I don't want to sound because I'm not an
old head, but you know, it's different. And when I
was in locker rooms working out, I once I didn't
feel that belonged, but I definitely felt older in the
space and it was changing. But yeah, I'm adjusting to
it fine. Man, Everything's going well. Doing some stuff with ESPN,
randomly tapping in with Fandul and Turner. The goal is
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to network full time, but I also do some consulting
and scouting for teams, you know, tapping into different avenues
and different lanes and seeing what I like most. But
most importantly, I get a chance to spend more time
with my little one at the house.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
As he's growing up.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He's only nineteen months, so I'm glad that I waited
to have kids until the end of my career so
I could have more time with them.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's one thing I always talked about having friends that
play professional sports. I noticed that some of them do
struggle with retirement trying to figure out who they are,
because you know, athletes, for the most part, that took
over your entire lives from kids. All you know is basketball, training,
working out, playing, traveling. How tough has it been or
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what was the biggest thing you learned during retirement that
nobody told you to look out for.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, I think the toughest thing for most guys, which
that I had some help with it is adjusting to
not having Like I said, for twenty years, twenty five years,
guys have been playing and traveling and to be kind
of stagnant or figure out how to not be stagnant
and adjusting to not having a routine because normally wake up,
you know exactly what you're doing. And obviously there's other
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situations where guys checks aren't coming in the same so
they have to adjust, and some people don't have to.
But either way, you don't want it to be stagnant
and spending money without making money, you know, because you
have to live another forty fifty years god willing, maybe
even more so you kind of see that bigger picture.
Like them, I don't know if I can stretch this long,
or I don't know if I should be doing this
for this long. I don't know if it's going to
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run out financially. But so some guys are putting pretty
good positions where they don't have to worry about financials,
but they still want to find a purpose, so finding
a purpose, finding a routine. Except for me, it was
just like, yo, I need to I want to know
my schedule. For them, I don't want to have to
like figure it out week to week, day to day
of what I'm doing. So when I say I want
to be with a network, it's like, all right, I
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want to a schedule for the month. Let me know
what I'm doing when I'm working, when I have time
with the little one. So I think the hardest part
is that not having a routine and also not having
a space where you can be around you know, your boys,
your teammates, your locker room, the plane, all the travel
experiences with a group. That camaraderie is what guys missed
the most. So that's the biggest adjustment, is to not
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having a group to be a part of or be
associated with, and then not having a routine that you
normally have had in the last twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Does every athlete think they can be a media personality now?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
No, a lot of them do.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
So Listen, we talked about the pod before we start
a pod, and not everybody deserves a platform.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's the fact.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Some guys out there with platforms, You're like, what the hell?
Anybody can get a platform now, so nobody who deserves
the platform. Now everybody can do media is challenging on
that side of it. It's not easy, and some guys
know that. Some guys know that their personality is not
built for talking on TV and they're not outgoing or
showing energy. You know, you see step and A. He's
yelling at the TV all the time, but he's good
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at what he does. Because he he portrays is that
and it grabs the viewers attention within the first seven seconds.
You know, there's little things that you know, TV people know,
you know, people behind the scenes know, and guys that
do media know, and a lot of all players know
that they're not good in that space, but a.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Lot of them try, which is said I applauded them.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
It's great man to see guys venture out and try
to have their own platforms and also try to do
different things after playing. But yes, not everybody can do it,
and not everybody thinks they can do it, but probably
more more so, more guys think they can do it.
It's just like like basketball players trying to be rappers
or rappers trying to be hoopers, you know what I'm saying.
So it goes hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I was. I was impressed by Jamal. Jamal Crawt has
transitioned into analysts. I spent a lot of time around
Jamal when he was in New York. A good friend
of mine, Trevor Reza. They with teammates, so we spent
some time together. And seeing him transition into anless work
has been impressive. He's always been cool, laid back, but
I didn't realize how well spoken Jamal was until he
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was on TV. He obviously knows the game. One of
my favorite players to watch. How is it watching a
lot of these guys that you probably were teammates of
and was, like Richard Jefferson, I was surprised how well
he does an analyst work. He was like in Jersey,
spent some time around him. He was a complete goofball,
And now to see him on TV doing and this
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work he's doing, he's doing an amazing job. How is
it being teammates with some guys that you know on
a personal level and then seeing them transition into the
into these great analysts.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
R J is still a goofball, absolutely, absolutely, even on
set behind camera he makes it fun though. Yeah, but
it's been impressive to see certain guys like them.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I didn't know he could.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Do that, Like, I didn't know he had the even
like guys you may not see on the national level,
like Ryan Hollins is a guy who works for Houston Rockets,
and you know he didn't have an extensive career, but
he had a good crib.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But you see him.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know, even Tristan when he had a break, came
out and It's like, yo, I didn't know he could
be so animated on TV. But r J has been great.
You know, Jalen Rose has been great. Jamal Crawford has
been great. Like you, guys get better speakers as they
get older because they can't was much physical.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So they have to be better communicators on the court.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
You know, I've seen Jamal, you know he'd be He's
a great offensive score. Most communicators are defensive guys like
Draymond because they have to talk on defense. You know,
most guys that score the ball, they just go out
there and get buckets. They might talk shit, that's it,
but they don't have to communicate as much except for
give me a screen or get out the way.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
So to see lou Will, Jamal Crawford like those guys
cross over and be in the space and be very
good at it is impressive man, And said, you tip
your hat off to guys because it's not easy. We
learn a lot about behind the scenes of how difficult
it is, how challenging it is. And you know, said
to see certain guys be able to adapt and adjust
to the space, You're like.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Man, it's pretty dope. I didn't think that you know,
most of the guys.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
A lot of people, the normal fans, look at basketball
players as guys that just only know how to play sports.
They don't see this as anything else. So to have
a personality, a be able to portray. And some guys
are really good basketball players, just not good at talking
the game either. And now you you gotta see them
all the time, like some of them just you know, hilarious.
You know, Chuck and Shacker hilarious on TV. They make
great TV. They can talk the game. And then some
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guys that said that don't know how to articulate the
game and break it down, because you got to be
able to break it down to a viewer that does
not understand it, people.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That don't know ball.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, so not everybody's good at doing that, man. And
I said, to see some of my peers and some
of my teammates OG's and even some guys behind me
do wile transition into that, it shows, like they said,
they had some other talents and qualities that I never
knew they had before they could play back, Like they
obviously had other aspirations or backup plans or things that
they had in place if they didn't make it in basketball.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I mean, I love the fact that you know, ESPN
and these other news outlets are leaning more towards, you know,
grabbing players as they're into retirement and having them doing
this work because it does make sense to have guys
that they played at this level break down the game
and be able to talk to the casual fans like
Ory and myself about the game and show us the
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nuance of it. But it is fun to see guys
like Draymond and you know, guys have their own platforms
where they get to say what they want to say
and break down the game that you know, the way
they like to do it. So the luck to you
on that. I know you've been doing your things and
you're pretty good at it, but you're a tall hill.
So y'all, y'all are pretty educated down there, and you see, man.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Got to get better. You know, I'm working to get better.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Man.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
We had some good some good examples that I got
a chance to watch. Rest in Peace. Stewart Scott was
a great one. Oh yeah, absolutely amazing legend. We got
a chance to watch Rick Fox, you know what IM saying.
We had we had a couple of guys that I
got a chance to watch. Kenny Smith has done amazing job. Yeah,
you know, vinces on there now doing some stuff. Shout
out to Vernage Haywood. We had a couple of guys
in place now and before me that I got a
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chance to watch and look up to because I wasn't
I wasn't always the most talented guy bro.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So like I had to plan for if this ship
didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, So what I'm saying I went to school for
four years and I was like, all right, if I
don't play ball, I got to be able to do something.
And do I want to stay around the game? Do
you want to coach? And after playing it's like, you know,
coaching and stressful. You see coaches getting fired left and right.
That's a very unstable career. So it's like, I don't
know if I want to deal with that stresses, the
stresses of coaching when I'm done playing. So for me,
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it was like you know what I'm gonna go into,
you know, commentating, you know, journalism or that type of space.
So I did communications as my major, and you know,
followed watching those guys most of the time.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
You you mentioned there was some ballplayers that thought they
could rap you had a pretty pretty long career with
a couple of organizations. So who was the worst rapper
that you came across in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Oh, I can't say the worst rap because I've actually
you can say from.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Duke, you can say bag he's from Duke.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I never heard him rap, so everybody.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I could probably put him that conversation. But I've been,
I've been. I've come across some guys that were pretty good,
that made good music, like and I started out with
Stephen Jackson. So when I was there, even and Tony,
I don't know. So if I can understand French, my
bill put him in that category. Tony rap, Tony Parker,
he was a rapper, he had an album, did.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
A French album.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I never got a chance, but I seen him before
on stage. By the time I got there, he stopped rapping.
But Stephen Jackson was a good one. I know it
was teammates with Dame, but I chanced to watch it,
and I gotta said, Andre Drummond rapped. Like the chance
to listen to these guys music. Shaq was a rapper
once upon the time.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He was. He's probably the best rapper ball Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Damons, Shack are very talented.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
But when I was in Memphis, man, we had a
couple of guys doing the mumble rap there.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It was. It was interesting. Man.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I want to say it on names, but I wouldn't
say they're terrible, but you know, they and they did
they did some good stuff and so like some of
the music, it may not have been sounded good.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
You know, you know, so they had some and some
of them were young guys. So uh Junior Kenny Lofton Jr.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
He's younger.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
He plays in China now, but he was young coming
and he was like trying to get in the music.
So he's he's got some time to get better.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, but he was mean, he's in China. He got
to do a stand on the corner and he'll sell
rapping out there. He gets Kenny, did you. I'm surprised
he's not often get I'm surprised he didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
He was a young guy that was like, I'm like, okay,
you got the blue Face flow.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Like flow.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
It was a one off beat flow and blue Face
made it famous. What I'm saying like, blue Face was
good at it. Shout out to him because we just
saw him. I was in the in the prisons, like
a couple of weeks ago, and the month ago he
was in there.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I do the thing between the lines. So we go
hoop with the prisoners.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yes, I saw some of the trailer stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, and he was in there. Shout out to him.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Did you speak to Blue Face?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, we said it up.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
You know, you know they everyone in there, they got
a story man, and it's not a great space for them.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's like a miserable day.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And so we come and we give him, try to
get a day of freedom, poop with them, play some
music so they like, it's it's all right in here today,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Appreciate coming through.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
They they you know, they they show love and we
show love back. So it was it was a good day,
you know, to kick it with them.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
At one point, I mean he's tall, Blue Faces.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yeah, they said he was a hooper. They said he
played football and he was an athlete.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But that day he was chilling. He wasn't. He was
out the way, he was just watching.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I don't think he want to be a part of it,
you know, he trying to do his time and get
out of He's a short stay guy, so he was
only got like a year or so some of the
guys in the fifty plus one hundred plus years.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
But they're doing better.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
With trying to rehabilitate guys, you know what I'm saying.
They had dog like straight dogs are allowing them to
like adopt you know that type of thing. But yeah,
it's I learned some new shit every day every time
I'm in there.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And how is that experience?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
How was that experience going into the prison systems? You
know for me personally, I know a lot of guys
that were great basketball players that you know, just took
a left turn and ended up doing prison time. So
I'm sure spending time in these prisons you come across
guys that could really hoop, Like how was just seeing
guys or you like, yo, no, you could have played
in the league.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
With the saying, there's a.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Bunch of people, even in a woman's prison, you look
at them like you look like a normal civilian, like
why are you here?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
It's a random it's not random, but it's a wild
story of one bad decision, of one drunk night car accident,
you know what I'm saying. And they got thirty forty
years These guys were hooping wonders. I used to play
with Chauncey. I was a point guard back in the
day with SO and so. I played a lot of
them from the LA area, someone from different areas. But
they hooped and they owe g's and you could tell
they hooped back in the day. They're like, you know,
you must have played somewhere, and they like, I'm about
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to get out soon. But they're in great shape, by
the way. So you go in there, yeah, dicking around.
You go the jazz, but they're not playing, and they
play all day. They could they have home court advantage.
They could shoot on the double rims outdoors sometimes doors.
But it's a it's an unbelievable experience, man, just hearing
the story. But you know, being surprised by guys that
are athletic in there. And that said, they were playing
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with some top guys and could have been one of
those top guys that just made a bad decision when
they were fifteen sixteen years old.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, didn't know them. The Warriors have a documentary or
something that they gave.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think he got trying. Yeah, I think they went
in for a brief moment.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
They did some visits because a lot of the prisons
are say in the Bay area, but I think folsom
is in Sacramento area. It's not far. But we said,
I do we do all the California area. Shout out
to between the lines, uh Tori state Darren duncan they
put it together? To my homiees So I just volunteer
and uh lanning to do homie that runs actively black
kind of sponsored them and gave them the gear. But
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it's said, it's a dope all around experience. People volunteer
at the time. DJ comes in, play some music, people
come in and hoop, people come in and do they podcasts,
they share their stories, so it's a it's a it's
an experience all around.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Man, What did you do?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Want to volunteer?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I said, I couldn't even said, I can't even take
credit for the I've seen the homies doing it for
some time and I always wanted to check it out,
you know, because we all have somebody that's been inside,
right Like we all had somebody that were related to
that we know that made a decision and you had
to visit them. So we're connected in some you know,
some way, shape or form. And I was always hooping,
but I was able to go in. I had tore
my knees, so I had time. I was rehabbing and
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I wasn't doing much. I wasn't practicing shit like that.
So they're like, yo, you should come check out the prison.
So the first time I went in was when I
was I had a knee. I didn't play, so I
had a knee injury and I was just there kicking
it with them. And then from there I was like, yeah,
this is dope, man. And it meant a lot to them.
So help put things and it always kept me put
things in perspective for me, you know, like it was
a thing that I feel like every human being with
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the freedoms we have, needs that that humbling. You know,
often every couple of months you need to come back
down earth just appreciate what you have. So it's one
of those things that it's not only beneficial to them,
it's beneficial to me. So I'm able to show them love,
you know, give them hope and help make their time
go by faster or easier, but also for them to
teach me a lot of things and also you know,
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share their stories but keep me in a humble space, man,
and appreciate the freedoms that I have.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Ye will be dope to actually like see a lot
of like these NBA stars going to prison and like
just for a day and just like who.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
One guys should do it? Yeah, I think it gets
physical in there though.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean a lot of these guys claim they could
have played in the more physical error right, They claim
I could have played in that erar Like, well, let's
see going to Pelican base, see what you can do, right,
what you can do up in there. Let's see if
you can you handled a guy that has thirty five
years left on his charge.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
All right, now, they played clean, they play it's good,
clean fun, but they get physical, man.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And I started when I retired.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I was like, you know, I gotta get back in
shape because out there I was, yeah, I was wheezing
and something like that. We almost lost a couple of times.
We lost one actually lost one game, and I was like, damn,
it's not good. Yeah, we can't let that ship. I
can't let that that happen. They started talking trash like
are we coming back? We're gonna come back far, you know,
to get our look back so.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
As one of the better shooters in your in your
class when you came in, what do you think about
the game now, Like, because when you came in, it
was it was shooting, was you know, three point shooting
was a part of it. Steph obviously, Steph obviously changed
the entire dynamic of basketball. But do you ever feel like, damn,
if I came in like in the last three years,
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I would be one of the top players because you
were an absolute shooter coming out of U and C
and that was a big part of your game. But
do you ever look at the evolution of basketball now
and be like, if I came in maybe six years later,
it would be a fair problem.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
I think everybody that's retired thinks that they were born
too early.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know. You look at even guys from Shaq's.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Era, They're like, yeah, I wish I was born you know,
twenty because mind you, the money is wait, the money,
that's what it is, is the money.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Shack, his error was better built for his type of game.
There's a bunch of guys that were tweeters that were
probably not built for the time that they came out.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It was like Yo.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
In today's NBA, I could I could play because it's
all perimeter oriented, all guard play, and there's guys that
were like you weren't sure if they were true two
men or three men or three or four men like
they were forward were small forward, and that made a
difference between them making a team and you know, not
being on a roster and had to play overseas. So
there's a bunch of guys that are looking like Damn,
I was born in the wrong era. For me, it's
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just like I I appreciated my time because I got
a chance to see both parts of it. I got
to see like old school when I first got early,
like in early and then the trends. I see a
transition and obviously people give, you know, a lot of
credit to Steph and go and stay. But he was
was a big part of the three point transition. But
James Harden, yeah, and D'Antoni. So for me, it was
more so like damn, I wish I got opportunity to
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play for certain coaches or play with certain people. And
that's not just in today's era, but even the error
before me during my time, like them, I see D'Antoni
system and they get up shots. You know, Steve curR system,
you know they I would imagine what kind of player
I would have been if I was featured. You know,
Pop respected the three and appreciated it, but it wasn't
a big part of his offense. It was like, oh,
we're going to shoot a bunch of threes. Now everybody's
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offense is that way. So it's like, damn, if I
was born ten years later and playing for Boston, what
would that look like? You know what I'm saying, like
what my contract looked like? Would I get more when
I went a lot more rings? But mudgets that I've
won plenty. I've been very blessed. But they're getting up
a good amount attempts man, and guys are getting paid.
You know, the guys that were MySpace at the time
said it eventually got upto like seventy million, which was
(20:51):
big because before that max was certain guys like Tony
Parker getting forty million like that was a big contract.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Back to the thirty forty million was a big contract.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Then, like the adverage between then bumped up to like
the average be like seventy seventy five. Now you've seen
guys getting a hundred, Hudred twenty plus for like those
guys in that space now two hundred. So yeah, the
money is going up, and I think a lot of
retired guys are like, damn, I wish I was born
like ten years later.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You know what I'm saying, just to get that bag.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Tony Parker did that French rap album that I.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Did to try to make ends meet.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
We just skipping over that. Maybe I missed that completely.
Did you guys know that Tony park at up?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, he wrapped on stage. Bro It's the final on
Finals MVP. It was a while ago.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah, it was a while ago, but it was one
of those things. I think somebody talked to me, like,
you can make a good mo money, Like I don't
think they had.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It over there. So you can make a good amount
of you know, you have a good, big following. Yeah,
you can make it good.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So you know, I think Tony's pops is like an
old school black dude from Chicago, So you know what
I'm saying, Like even though he's French, like his family,
like his family is half American half regular black dudes.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Say so, I'm gonna revisit it for sure. Yeah, I
gotta go back, go back and do the knowledge. While
while we're staying on music coming up in Long Island
in the nineties early two thousands, growing up, what the
type music were you listening to?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Of course the hip hop bro I mean I grew
up on that, you know, My my pops was big
in the moving you know, I wouldn't say we lived
in North Bablon, but we were in every borough and
Queens was a big part of you know, olkooj was
from our area or lived in that area, so we
listened to a lot of him, you know, growing up.
But everybody from a young age from Methadabra and man
all that, Wu Tang big of course, not so much
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Pop more so big nas j J was huge.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Jay Z was big.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And then then of course when I was younger, I
think everybody Eminem was like Doctor Dre and then then
then of course g and it came around fifty cent
dipset as we got in high school, so that was
more of our movement. Then I went to school in
the South, which changed a lot for me. So being
in Carolina, I was like, man, I didn't really mess
with the music like that down there, but then eventually
it came around, you know, t I and then Lil
(22:55):
Wayne blew up. You know, it was in college so
that it was like I had no choice, you know,
they was forced feed me Geezy. Yeah, the southern music,
and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Listen, I'm
listening to ging it, you know, Jim Jones dip set
like what I'm saying right, So, but eventually it said,
I started to open up to be like okay, and
as you get older, you start you know, you're just
(23:16):
like when you taste tipping foods, your expands. You started like, okay,
try to prove char the music and you're like, oh now,
it's like I'm a more R and B guy, but
you know it's the crossover R and B rap, like
the R and B guys that rap to.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But I like hip hop R and B. Then I'll
listen to some pop. I don't mind.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You know, some songs say E d M. But you know,
you open to more musical things now, like Okay, I can.
I can vibe to this for a little bit, just
not the whole night. I'm not about to be doing
house and DM the whole night.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, I can.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
I can understand or appreciate a good country song.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's like, okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
You had a you had a stint. Uh while you
were playing, you were known as the guy when you
weren't in the game, you was supporting your teenage You
did a lot of dancing on the sidelines. There's been
a lot of a lot of a lot of tape
with you grooving on the sidelines when you wasn't in
the game. Did you take that on us? Like, listen, man,
I'm not if I'm not on the floor, I still
have to kind of give my teammates energy and get
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them going and have fun. Was that something Was it
a conscious thing or was something that just happened.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I think it was something that just happened, you know.
And being from New York, you know how.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
And I'm not the type of guy that needs to
be like clear out the room like I got the
dance floor any type of stace.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I don't need the attention, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
But New York, as we danced, we listen to music,
we have fun, you know what I'm saying, we get
lights on the sidelines. I feel like it just naturally
happened because it made it seem like it was an
individual thing, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It just became that. It started out as a team thing.
So coach Williams, you.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Know, he's kind of superstitious, so he made sure he
played the music before every game and on the sideline.
My freshman not as much my sophomore's junior year. Junior
became more thing. But sophomore we had everybody in up
sideline dancing so we would have fun. By the time
it came to my junior year, all the people that
was inside with me either had graduated left or starting
or on the floor, so it was like I was
I didn't start till my senior year, so I was
on the left, so everybody's looking at me like, yo,
(25:00):
you got nobody else in the talent like a dance,
Like yeah, you gotta dance. So it became like an
individual thing. Now I'm just the only one crowd. We
had some other guys get into it. We had like
another guy, you know, Greg Little, he's a football player,
but he played with us, so we had him get
into it too.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So we had a few.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But it became an individual thing because everybody else had left.
But it wasn't really an individual thing. But yeah, that
was just you know, the New York andt me just
on the sideline. We would all dance, you know from
my fresh sophomore year and everybody have different dances and
you know, my version of it. And it was a
random song try to get light to. But you know,
it just became an individual thing as I got older
(25:34):
and everybody kind of left and was starting on the
floor and a superstitious thing, you know. Coach Williams made
sure they played the music and made sure because we
won a lot of games with that music and the
fans love it. Then it became a thing and the
next you know, I became the Carolina puppet. Everybody every
time they see me, you know, Danny dance, we do
dance for us. I'm saying like, that's how it became
a thing. And it was like, you know, but I
enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Man. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
It was cool, and ultimately I guess it brought some
type of it get brought and interest the floor in
the group. But it brought you know, some some fun
and light to our team and to the bench and
to myself as well.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
What was the music that was always played with the superstition.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It was jump around.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It was jump around every time.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, every game before every game is to jump around song.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
And did you ever catch him rabbin along to it?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Nah?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I remember, said, said, until I told the story a
couple of times. It was one time they didn't play
the music. I think it was an overtime and we lost.
He was pissed about it. He made sure that music
every time somebody got fired. It's one of those things.
He's an old school coach. You know, you don't like
to look at me the bs. You know, it's okay
til tip off goes up, we get serious. But if
it's something that's working and we went in, he ain't
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gonna say nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
So we was.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
It was working and winning, and it became a ritual.
But if we would have been dancing on a saline
we were losing, he'd have been like, cut that ship out,
you know what, I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Cuss this out. But it was a thing.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And then once it became a thing, and when we
didn't have the music one game and we lost, he
was like, all right, yeah, going to make sure to
play that damn music and that you know, we get
our guys in the Salon doing the routine and the
crowd into it. So the fan section, the crowd loved it,
so it was it was a cool It was a cool.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Thing once some you know, once you get to the league,
obviously more doors open up and you you entered the
rooms with other famous people that you probably hadn't been
in before. What was the first artist that you met
that was kind of like a fanned out moment for
you once you got to leave.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I feel like, you know, being from New York, every
moment is a fan out moment, but you never expressed
that as a New Yorker. Yeah, say, you just have
too much pride. Got to keep it, got to keep
it cool up, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and
you just keep it moving. But I think my first
interactions when I was like just coming out, Cole he
actually found out to me and I was like, oh shit, Cold.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
He's like do you agree with? What up?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Like he's from Carolina, he was outside of the club,
said so, oh shit, Cold, what's up?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know what I'm saying? Like he was young.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I think he was just fresh out of college this
long time ago. And then of course seeing Wayne, seeing
t I seeing a bunch of guys randomly, and then
Dre the weekend. I was a big Weekend fan, you
know when he when he came out. So and every
time I see them as I mean, now it's love,
it's more normal. I'm older, But when I was a
young kid, like the first three or four years, it's
(28:11):
just like even when you're in the court, I think
your first two years is more of a star struck
culture shock for you. Like, Damn, I can't believe them
guarding KD. You know what I'm saying, Like it takes
a year to get used to that. I can't believe
them on the floor sharing the locker room with Shaq
or Lebron. I'm saying like, it's not a you like
everyday thing. And I think rookies are more used to
it now because they have more access to guys they
can like back then, I didn't have social media, wasn't
(28:32):
that big of a thing when I first came in,
So you don't you don't see these guys as you
don't see what their routine, and now you have all
access to everything they do behind the scenes in the
locker room. I didn't know what the hell it so
seeing Lebron in person, seeing shocking persons like them. You
never get to see these guys just playing against KD,
playing against you. Certain people you're like, damn, mellow, You're like,
oh shit, that's Carmelo. Now you see them, it's like
(28:53):
a fraternity show love say what's up? Which is which
is dope? But it takes a year two to get
used to that. Not just rappers, but every every space,
even actors and actresses, which a lot of them you
don't even recognize at first because there's there's smaller.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
People like that. Yeah, I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
So yeah, I remember Batman. Batman is that short?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Like so many gamest so small?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
A bunch of girls said, A bunch of actresses you
look at and you probably have crushes on in your
high school.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You meet them, you're like, damn, it's so small. Man.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I don't know if you just I want to say
you're disappointed, be like damn, I thought she was like, yeah,
this this big mind you. They do carry an aora,
but they're just small people. So you're just like, man,
I can't believe Hollywood is this small.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Does celebrities at the games ever change?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I guess the energy in the arena because it's different
between playing for the Lakers than playing with San Antonio.
About who's going to be there Toronto. Obviously Drake took
over for three years straight.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
He was at every games.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
That changed energy one hundred percent. And I think when
you're the opposing team, that's the fun part. Like when
I started on Sanntonio, think my favorite arenas was going
to New York, going to l A even though from
New York, but seeing who's gonna be COURTSI you know
what I'm saying, like, oh ship, that's Denzel Washington. That's
Detective Olivia you know Benson her real name.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But you know I watched that.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh ship and so and so,
you know, Salmon Hik, you know, just random people and
you'll see how small they are. But you're like, damn,
of course. I was watching Jack Nicholson like, oh ship,
you know that's Jack.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, so how many points you are?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Was there? I don't remember, but.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I said, just watching, watching and having them there, it's like,
you know, it's this is the bright lights, this is
to who So you have fun. You have more fun
than those you don't get to see them in San
Antonio or those other small arenas. But also it's a
big difference when you become a part of those those groups.
You know, it's a different aspect when you're playing against
Lakers and when you're playing for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
What I'm saying, it's a different.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Type of pressure, you know what I'm saying, Like those
stars now expect you to play well, They expect you
to every night and expected to win. The lights a
lot brighter. So yeah, it's a different space. And when
you come in underdogs, I'm coming and beat the shit.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Out of Lakers.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
I'm saying, like, it's a different type of approach and
mental aspect of it, and probably a lot more fun
being an opposing team coming in kicking ass and being
a part of the home team where you're like, if
you do something wrong, everybody to builds, like damn, why
do we sign this guy for this much money?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
What's one of the biggest misconceptions about Coach Popovich, Like
I look at Coach pop and he does seem like
this stern, serious guy, But then you also get clips
of him with with with his players, and you see
like the coolest side of Coach Pop. What is the
biggest misconception going in as a as a as a
rookie where you probably were like, oh shit, I'm great
(31:41):
to play for Coach Pop, Like going into it, what
did you think? And then after your first interaction with him,
what was it? What was that feeling?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Like that's a great question, man.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
I mean, I don't think the young kids understand, like
it's a different generation and they have no respect for
the older generation now. But when you walk in a
building and you see Greg Popovich or Coach Williams or
pat Riley, they only carry the ore of like historical
coach like ship. Like damn, it's like the principle, you
know what I'm saying, you got to straighten up on
your on your p's and q's, make sure you're not
(32:11):
fucking around or fucking up. So when it came to
seeing him, not only did you think that they were
and so, but Pop looks like somebody that would He's
like a spy, you know what I'm saying, Like somebody
that Yeah you know it's a serial killer on the love,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know, pat Riley
looks like a mob. But like back here, at the time,
like get you knocked off, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like not only scared of him as a
(32:31):
basketball coach, but you scared of.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Him as a as a man man.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Like the president might might leave a horse in your
bet your bet, She's what I'm saying, Like, might kill
your family. So so seeing them in that space is
like that it takes you back. And the biggest mixed
misconception of them. And I said, I don't know Pat
and coach Williams. I know Coach Wiman as well, but
Coach Williams and Pop, they just people, especially the media
(32:55):
will Pop, they just take.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Him so seriously.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
They think he's a mean guy, when really he's like
the total oposite, Like he's a big soft he's a grandpa,
you know.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Like until he got on the court, now get me wrong,
and i court, he's very extreme and intense. But off
the court, you know, he's teaching about life, you know,
lessons around the world, third world countries, enlighten you what's
going on, like trying to educate you.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But he cares, he cares.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
About your family, and he's a he's a he's a comedian. Man,
it's like it's hard not to let Like he's a
part time Everything he did to me was funny as hell.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I would laugh all the time.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Also because like he's in his seventies and he's still
you know, he'll get out in the court and started
to mess with you hard, start playing defense on you,
trying to focus you, bully you a little bit, and
you're like, pop, make it that out in here.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
But he is, he's funny.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
He's funny as hell, man, and he I think he
likes to mess with the media and he likes him that.
He wants him to think that he's seriously you like
he plays that role, you know, like of pretty much
like he's the coaching coaching version of Jack Nicholson, you
know what I'm saying, Like now, Jack Nilson in his
movies like some fuck with people, he's kind of like
that and make those you know, dry jokes or those
jokes that that make you a little uneasy and uncomfortable.
(33:55):
But he's he he was only playing around. But he's great, man,
he's great.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
We had Victor Cruz on last week and we were
discussing with him the bottle Heard round the World that
ended New York City club culture. Tony Parker was also
involved in that episode is being dedicated to Tony Parker.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Vic was, was I what you did at night?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And I wasn't. I heard about it though I wasn't
there that night.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Okay, So we uh the way Vlad has been trying
to solve the Tupac case. We have dedicated this podcast
to trying to discover what happened in Whip that night.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And this is when the bottle broke right caught somebody
and I did it catch Tony?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And I I believe so, yes, I think he ended
up suing.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
It was between Drake and Chris Brown's entourages of some
type of altercation and Tony happened to be there. And again,
I'm learning so much about Tony Parker today. I thought
he was don't mean it's disrespectful. I just thought he
was more of a square like I thought him and
Tim duncan Ward Barbecue.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Get me wrong.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
The organization makes you feel that way or make you
put you space. They don't want you to encourage you
to spring but basketball like it's your job. But Tony
was an outside boy, you know what I'm saying. Like
he he was one of the very few guys that
like the fashion. You said he was married to Eva Longoria, like,
he was in the Hollywood space, and he likes to
do you know, he liked to part. He's French boy like,
he liked to get out and he wrapped. So he
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was a figure. He wasn't just a basketball player.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
He was a figure.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
So do you think Tony was a victim that night
or maybe an aggressor.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
I think for sure a victim. He was not a
he's not aggressive type guy. But he likes to be
in this I said when he especially younger Tony, he
liked to be in the space. So I'm sure he
was in the space. Probably had no idea what's going on. Probably, yeah,
you know, Christmas up, trying to show you, trying to
show love. They're like, yo, we don't funk with each other.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Tony.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah, he might accidentally, you know, got some things started.
But I doubt he was an aggressive. He likes to
stay in his own space. But he's social guy. He
had his own club and San Antonio at the time,
back in then, it's calling the Wave. You know, his
number was nine, so he had a club and it
was it was one of the very foe spots that
everybody would go to after and hang out and kick it.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
But yeah, Tony is definitely a victim. He wasn't. He
was never like a starter.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Did he ever take you out outside of his club
in San Antonio? Like when you guys were on the road.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Tony was one of those guys that we were going
the road and he wanted to do something. We did
Team Dinners a lot. But if there was something going
on in San Antonio or out some or somewhere else,
He's like, yeah, I got this going on.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I got a party here.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
And you know, he had the infamous parties at his
house that uh, I don't know if you guys seen
it lately. I think kysonat might be streaming there soon
and you know, help promote it. He's you know, he's
back and forth with France and but I think he's
trying to sell the house.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So but his house is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Like water park. He had a water park in the
crib and he added more to it. So even then
he would have parties and the biggest, the best part
of it was being able to do the water park
stuff at his crib. So it be a house party
outside and he said he added more to it. But yeah,
so his house was unbelievable and he would have party,
host parties at his crib and he would host them
in different places and be yo, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Come through. And his brothers, he had younger brothers.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
They were cool people too, and they would invite people
out and you know, they would host. Man, they were
really good at hosting people in San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Now, I don't know how long ago you said this,
but you have Kevin Durant over Steph.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And Yo, this was this was like yesterday, It was
like two days ago, Like do you do.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You do you really have KD? So so I question question,
do you have KD over Stephan Jokic? And what is
Danny Green's top five all time?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (37:27):
So, so this is I know it's a controversy and
it's an unpopular opinion, but it's just my opinion when
it comes to the eye test, right, or just the
players that I've laced up, so like people have their
top ten of all time. You know, it's like it's
bron Mike, I should do the other way, Mike bron Cole,
you know, Timmy Shaq, Walt, Bill Russell, Magic, Kareem Bird,
(37:51):
you know what I'm saying, Like those guys that normal
peoples mix them around and then sometimes they'll sneak in
Steph in the top ten, you know what I'm saying.
So for me and the top ten, the top players
that I ever seen lay something in my fifteen year career,
the guys that I've laced up the hardest people to guard,
and their resume not be as good as Steph and Jokic,
it might be better. So Katie's resume might be not
(38:13):
MVP wise, but he's got two finals MVPs.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
He's got MVP. But behind Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
The best players that ever I've seen lace him up
and score that basketball on the offensive on the floor,
Kevin Durant right behind him, and then James Harden. Like
my fifteen year career, those are two hardest guys that
I've ever had the guard, and there's a reason why
they're really good. Now, I'm not saying I put James
hard and above Steph, but Katie has two rings, he
has some finals MVPs. So STEP's resume is better for sure,
(38:44):
but as a player, to me, I'm putting him above
those guys will never see. To me, I don't think
we'll ever see another Kevin Durant. You can put wemby
in a conversation that they're not Kevin Durant. They're very good,
they're big men. They can shoot the three, but fifty
ninety twenty five plus points for like sixteen years, like
guy's been doing it for twelve plus year, like over
a decade and still doing it in year sixteen. To me,
(39:08):
I would put him in the top ten over for
the new er guys. I'll put him in the top
ten before Stephan Jokic. That's just my opinion because so
we'll never see another one of him and not that
we'll ever see another Yokich and Steph like, but I
think we'll come across them before like another one of those,
before we'll see an Covin Durant.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Jokic is.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I think he's a special player. I think his pace
is probably his biggest asset. No matter what you're doing
on your end of the floor, you're not gonna take
Jokic out of his pace. I think his IQ again
is probably one of his biggest assets. Physically, He's not
gonna you know, he's not the strongest, fastest, quickest, but
(39:50):
I think his IQ, his pace, and it's under his
his natural feel for the game is probably what separates him.
But you know, I gotta go back, so you know,
I remember what Orlando Shaq looked like, you know what
I mean. I don't know if Jokic wanted to see
Orlando Shack or even La Shack.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
We had these conversations yesterday too, because you know, Shaq
had some comments to talk about how he would have
bullied Chet and Wemby and made them quit. Yeah, it
depends on the era you're playing it, and that may
be true on the offensive end. I've seen said Joel
Wenby didn't quit againt Joelle. He had sixty against Wemby
and he tried to bullion all game. But he's growing
into a better defensive player and they probably woud have
double shacked, but Shaq would have had problems guarding them
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to another end, playing on the outside. Yeah, I'm saying
like he don't He never left the paint in the nineties,
you know what I'm saying, Like he didn't have to,
didn't have bigs that were shooting threes. Yeah, Dirk was
the first coming up in in Chris Boss, but he
played much against But those guys, y'all had some good touch,
but he never shot three. So I think Shaq would
have had trouble guarding those guys as well. And yeah, Jokic,
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he's the big man version of Luca. Their pace is unbelievable.
But said and I think they're one of the kind
guys too. But I think we'll see another one of
them before we see another Kemp. A seven foot guy
that can handle a ball like a guard, shoot three,
shooting mid range and last that long because most seven
footers don't have long careers. But Katie is a seven
foot guard, like a real natural guard. We got shanging
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as a guy that's up and coming that could possibly
be ye, you know what I'm saying. Like there's other
guys that could have like Trey Young could have been
like a Steph Curry. Like there's a couple of guys
that you'll see as a guard that can shoot the
three that couldn't possibly emerge into a Steph Curry. Not
saying that that will happen often, But I just don't
think we'll ever see another Kevin Durant. But yes, there's
a lot of guys like I said, Yo said, Yokicic
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was high IQ playing against Shaq, he would have just
he would have out. I feel like you're outsmarted Shack.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know what I'm saying now.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
None of that. Shaq was a dumb player. He's very
smart player. But yea Jokic his IQ in his pace,
I think it would have threw Shack off. You probably
got him in foul trouble, took him out, and he
shoots forty percent from three, forty two percent for three.
Good luck guard and that you know, you know, I
get that defensively shocked with a bully for sure. But
on the other end, they would have in trouble and
depend on the pace if they're playing in today's araon,
Shack's gotta run up and down.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
You can't just we're not slowing.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
The ball down and throw it in the side of
your possession, right, Yeah, sure, you gotta be able to
keep up. And Yokic, as much as he looks unathletic,
he's getting up and down the court like absolutely, he
runs a d sometimes down the floor like he'll still
run the floor.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, So don't get it twisted.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Before we get into some trivia last question, where do
you so you do have Michael Jordan as your greatest
of all time? Yeah, because now we're in we're into
the space where we're starting to get more people say
it's Lebron, and I understand it is.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I think Bron has the greatest career of all time.
But Mike is my goal. Okay, Mike is my goal.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
All right, that's that's fair. I'm not mad at that.
You were part of one of the probably one of
the biggest shots in NBA history in Toronto with Kawhi
Lennart sending sending y'all to the finals. Were you more
impressed by Kawhi during that run or Kawhi in San Antonio?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Definitely that twenty nineteen run.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
I mean Kawhi and San Antonio was still emerging, and
he after the year we wanted when he became became
more of like was.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
He finals MVP? What you did when he was Finals MV.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Did so after the Finals MVP, that's when they kind
of gave him the keys because he wasn't he didn't
have the keys before then.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Tony was the guy. You know, he took the keys.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Tony was the guy. We still have mine own Timmy
was still very good. Said, even though they're older, they
still played very They played great.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
They were good keys. And then they the mergers of Kawhi.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
The next fourth quarters down the stretch like Pop Mitshell,
he had the ball in his hands and that happened
very quickly, and I was like, damn, what the hell's
going on here?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
But he became the guy. So he was still young
when we got to Toronto.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
That's when his veteranship started to emerge and he became
more of a leader, not only you know, by action,
but even in the locker room talking a little bit more.
But that run, especially with coming off injury, coming back
and doing it in one year and having knee issues,
like he was playing on one leg half that time
we were playing Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
You could see him limping up and down the court.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
So him doing what he did and they just give
him the ball every time, making the right place and
lead us to a championship.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, I don't I don't know if we'll see that again.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
There's only one of the persons that I see in
today's game that has an opportunity to do that, and
that's Anthony Edwards. Because he's a two way player. Now
many two way players can dominate both hods of ball.
It just takes a lot of energy. So if Andy
Edwards does it, Jason Tatm's very good too, because other
guys are very good, they just have a lot more help. Yeah,
and not saying that Kawhi I didn't have help, but
he dominated had an unbelievable run against some really good teams.
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Philly was a really good team that could have that
could have probably should have beat us. Milwaukee was a
really good team that could have probably should have been
They up two games in Golden State even though KD
was out.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
They were a very good team as well.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
So for him to lead us to beat those teams, yeah, man,
I don't know if I'll see another run like that.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Do you have a top five New York high school
basketball list?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Top five player teams?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
No players, individuals? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Like top five players ever come out of Long Island?
Speaker 2 (44:52):
We do Long Island?
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean I gotta go Tobias is on
Alst Tobias Harris Wally World while he'serbi act doctor J.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Myself and I'm gonna have to throw supe Bird in there.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Okay, Now that's a great pick. Super Bird. That's a great,
he's a She's a legend, bro absolutely a legend, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Unbelievable and had an unbelievable career. But there's some other
players that came from Long Island that are very good
as well. But I gotta give a lot respect to
Wally World doctor j So Tobias had an unbelievable career.
I throw myself, but there's some some other guys in
there that deserve some more, some more credit, but I
gotta give.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I got to give Supe Bird a nod.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I respect that I know Land Stevenson is is Cony Island.
But did you guys ever cross because you guys are
only like two years young?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
And man, yeah, young and we played on SAU team.
So when he was in they said he was in
seventh grade, eighth grade.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
We don't know how all that time, but I think
I was a junior senior, and I said he played
he was a young and on our team Long Island Panthers,
Gary Charles coach, which became New York Panthers. And then
eventually they said, you know, Charlie Villanova played with us,
lamorrowed them back and the day run our test Joe
Kim Noah to my they were a little older than me,
(46:15):
but Lance was our young like my young guy underneath
me coming up. And then he ended up, I think,
moving on and playing with Juice, which was you know,
tinying them guys with Sebastian played for that's the Brooklyn way.
They all do, they but he started off with a
Long Island Panthers. So yeah, you know, Lance was one
of my young guys when he was coming up, like
seventh eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
All right, so geddy, they said, we don't know balls,
so we want to see if the balls. We want
to know how much music you Danny Green know. So
we're gonna we're gonna ask some questions, and I believe
you have some questions for us as well.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
So well, I got some basic ones. Man, I can
see if you know a little something.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
We'll ask you a question, you'll answer, and then you
can ask us a question. So first question, how many
girls were named in Pete Pablo's Freak League?
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Is it A?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Is it A eight, B ten, C twelve or D fifteen?
North Carolina Legend, North Carolina, the North Carolina song. You
hear that when you land the Deadport.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
So he had a couple of songs with different girls
in him. So North Carolina thirty and.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
So that one.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
We just to my freak league.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Freak league.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
He had a lot of names. So I'm gonna go
with I'm gonna go with see the twelve or fifteen.
I'm gonna go with fifteen. I'm gonna go with d correct.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
He had a lot of names. Bro. It's like DMX
when DMX had that. You know what I'm saying, your
game and.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
The whole second rational.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, we gotta make like a name playlist of just names,
name of the best songs.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, he would have had nuts with this.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
I'm gonna keep it, uh, I'm gonna keep it simple
for you guys, man, because say, y'all don't know ball
oh man. So there's a couple of schools that are
the top, you know, U n C, Duke, us LA,
and Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
That's usually the big names.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
Not anymore as it used to be, but back in
the day, they were the top teams that everybody went
to school with. Yeah, because they had the most anti
double titles. Who has the most NT double A titles
and men's basketball history between the four U n C,
one Duke two, U c l A three Kentucky four.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Ship.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
I want to say U N see, but I feel
like this is more so I want to say either.
I want to say either U c l A or Kentucky.
I'll go Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
What you got?
Speaker 4 (48:27):
I mean, I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna stick with my
first answer. But now I know it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
You don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Just all looked at me. But I'm still okay.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
You got un C U SA Kentucky. Yeah, both are incorrect.
Is U c l A with eleven?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I must say, because I know I know Kareem had
what four.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Were born?
Speaker 5 (48:46):
They Kareem probably got stretch, they had a long stretch.
I should I should have stayed in the day. But
as of late, I think said the other teams have emerged,
like in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
They probably have the most. But use I had a
bunch of them way back in the day.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
All right, we'll stay North Carolina. Uh, somebody that you
ran into early in his career, Ja Cole?
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Where was he?
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Where was he born? A? Fayetteville, B Chapel Hill, C.
Charlotte or D Germany as it?
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Where was it?
Speaker 4 (49:19):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (49:19):
This is my I feel like it's a trick question
or maybe I want to say I want to say
I just want to say easy to say fail because
it so, you know, Dreamville, I'm gonna say Faithville unless
he's like a military baby that was born in Germany,
but I'm gonna say Favville.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Well, you're your second part was actually completely correct.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
He was a military baby born in Germany and obviously
a big military.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Town, so yeh question.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
His dad and mom moved back to Fayeteville, North Carolina
after Germany, which is kind of he should have got
on that Tony Parker album.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Not even like Germany is crazy.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
France did not could solve some of their problems there were.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
Yeah, all right, So there's only a few players that
have won three titles with three different teams.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Mm hmm, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you guys a hint.
You know me, I was.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
I was one of them, you guys the introduction, So
we're gonna guess. You guys have to guess how many
players have three different titles with three different teams. One
is two, two is four, three is six, or four
is eight. So either one two players have it, four
players six or eight how many players do you think
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has three different titles with three different teams?
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I'm gonna go four, six or eight?
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Go see six, I'm gonna go six. It may only
be too though, No, I mean ship him and Lebron,
but that's too I forget yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
I want to say I want to say eight.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
It is this final. Yeah, and you said six right?
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Six?
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah? Uh?
Speaker 5 (51:06):
That both incorrect against it's four four players, so two
would be the answer, damn only for myself, Me and myself, myself, Broun,
John Sally and Robert Orry John Sally from you know
the Pistols. Yeah, yeah, and Robert or people know John
Sally for being in Bad Boys with the Glasses.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Well okay, well I guess it's three different teams.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
That's the that's the Yeah, three different teams not not
easy to do. So four okay? All right? As well,
guys aren't far At least you knew Bron had one.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
So yeah, Well I don't count. I'm one of those
that don't. I hate the bubble ring, but that's just me.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Somebody gotta win, bro, there's all there's always lockout rings. People.
You gotta count.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Somebody's gotta win, you I'm not mad at it, just
that's just a nasty ring, all right.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
I mean we wouldn't prefer that either we didn't get
no parade, we can party, we can celebrate, we'd have
no fans.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, it was. It was an ugly thing all around
for not just the fans but the players as well.
We different, all right?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Uh for our last question, This Long Island artist or
artist reached number two on the Billboard Hot one hundred
for three weeks only, behind Say You Say Me by
Lionel Richie. Is it a Bismarcki, b Rock Kim c
public enemy or d Eddie Murphy. Wow?
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Say that question again? That has behind how many who? What? Now?
Speaker 2 (52:24):
This Long Island artists all artists reached number two on
the Billboard Hot one hundred for three weeks only, behind
say You Save Me by Lionel Richie.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
So back in the day has me that back to
Kim Rock Kim is from my area to wine dance
right there? Yeah, loved Rock Kim. I forgot Eddie Eddie
from Long Island and Roosevelt guy. Yeah, I'm gonna go
Eddie Murphy. Man, I'm gonna go Eddie because he was
a big tim star back in the day. I'm gonna go, Eddie.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
You are correct, correct party all the time, produced by
Edie AARTI we shipp on Eddie's music career, but he
has he got some hits.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, absolutely, he got some hits.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
But Danny, listen, man, we know you got to go.
We appreciate you taking some time kicking it with us, man. Yeah,
we got to do this in person. Man, I appreciate you.
You in New York, Man, whatever you in New York,
pull out.
Speaker 5 (53:15):
I'll be there again. I said, I'm there, you know,
every couple of months. I'll be at the end of
this month, early May. But I'm also summertime, some Little
Ones is happening. But you know, we definitely got a link.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Man, definitely in the studio, man, and so we could
kick it off.
Speaker 5 (53:28):
I would love to talk and said, I haven't been
in music space like I would. I would like to said,
little Ones. I don't watch much TV anymore or listening
to music and munch and be with little ones. But
and the music industry has changed so much for when
when we were younger to now. Yeah, but like a
lot of women shout out to them though running the
running the radio stations right now. It's a Lotto Magni, Stallion,
Cardi b Lorilla. I mean, they got beat, they got hits,
(53:51):
a nice space. Shout out to them. Yeah, but you know,
I want to see the guys we can come back,
you know, shout out to you know, Drake, Kendrick. They
made some some stuff happen this past summer which was dope.
But I want to see more of it, man. But
I want to get more in the cultural space, man,
to be able to chop it up with y'all more.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Have you spoken to tomar since the whole Kendrick and
Drake thing.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, actually he was on the show.
Speaker 5 (54:12):
We hadn't talked about that in particular, but I did
the show that running back where we was talking about
Steph Katie being ahead of Stephan Jokic. Yeah, so resume wise,
I got them in front of Katie. But Katie to
me a special player. But he was on the show
and we talked when he was in Sacramento. He came
to the show. We interviewed him Max mp of questions.
So it was brief, but I didn't a chance to
talk to him about the whole Drake situation. I'm sure
(54:32):
he ain't phased by it.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
It's whatever.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Toronto still loves him. Yeah, that's a fact,
all right, Danny. Well, we hope to see you soon
here in New York. Come by the studio, come kick
it with us. Man, Good luck with everything you're doing,
and we'll see you down the road.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
Appreciate y'all. Man, love man, saying good luck to y'all
as well.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
My God, thank you.