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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I refuse to help my pregnant sister because she tried
to exploit me.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Don't exploit, don't just don't dun't so.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I twenty seven, female, moved to the US almost seven
years ago. I have two half sisters from my father's side,
all from different women. We used to be very close,
and despite both of them being illegitimate, I shared with
them part of what little inheritance I got from my grandparents.
They never recognized them and left them nothing. By the way,
this comes from Throwaway for no drama, and if you
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storytime severed it so. Two years ago, my sisters also
moved to the US. The middle sister, twenty eight, let's
call her Mary, got a company to host her with
the work visa. The eldest, thirty, Karen not her real name,
got a student visa and moved in with me. Since
I was already working and earning a good salary. The
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arrangement was that I would pay bills, she would get
a job at the university since she's not allowed to
work outside, and that her spending money. I would cover
all bills and food. The only thing I asked was
to help with some minor chores. I have a dog
and a cat, and I told her she had no
responsibility while she had school and work. It was fine
since I work from home and I have a step
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family that helped me maintain my home, mostly because I'm
the free babysitter for them. Oh you have a step family,
what does that mean? The pretty sweet deal for a student, right? Okay, Well,
apparently that wasn't enough. While she was in school, Karen
met Ken. I knew Ken from the time I went
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to university. He's a creep, but I thought it was harmless.
Karen was head over heels for him. I warned her
Ken had a bad reputation at the university, but she
didn't care.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
She don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
She's a big girl. So I let it be with
the only condition that Ken was not allowed in my place.
The VID hits and my hours were cut. Karen school
goes on pause, and she loses her campus job. Because
of all of this, we moved into a small apartment.
I took a second job and did some freelance on
the side. Needless to say, I had no personal life.
(02:11):
I am dating someone, but he was also swamped with
work and bills, so we barely met each other. Bummer,
But I guess if you're both busy, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hey, let's like date. But we have no time to
see each other.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But yeah, like maybe you guys can just like take
naps together.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, I guess that's better than just it's like mentally,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm a big proponent of just
working in the same space together. Like I don't even
need to talk, and no one, no one's on that grind,
you know. During this time, Karen and Ken apparently got closer,
and he began to appear in the apartment. Karen was
not part of my lease, but my landlord was very understanding.
Ken began making really inappropriate comments about me. I am
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not a beauty queen. I just look a bit exotic.
As Ken put it, I mixed trace from the Caribbean,
so I have a bit of everything, and somehow it
all shows Karen looks more like our father. He was
of European descent. White. In all honesty, Karen.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Is more attractive.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Karen is more attractive. I only look foreign. In this
little intra mountain region city, Ken would go out of
his way to touch me and was just invasive. No No,
I managed to just keep in my room when he
was around, or used the excuse.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That my pets needed a walk.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Also, the like the immediate, just not even recognizing the
boundaries that he's put in place, saying hey, I don't
want him here.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yes, already, point blank, period should be done.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I didn't know exactly why, but Karen kept pushing for
me to spend time on my own with Ken. It
will be good for you to bond with your future
brother in law. They'd only been dating seven months at
this point. She's she's very optimistice whatever. I didn't care.
I found excuses to avoid it. November twenty twenty, I
got a better position at my main career job, so
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I was able to quit my second job and have
more meat time. I reconnected with friends and one of
them asked me if I was okay. I asked why,
and he told me Ken had been saying he was
very close to getting me for personal time.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Huh, personal time.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
No time.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I was not okay with that idea, and I very
loudly said I would rather be hit by a train
than do anything with Ken. There we go, and Ken
is presumably still dating Karen, So what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah? What is this? What is this?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And? Sorry? What is Karen's relation to OPI again?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Karen is her stepsister Raw Karen and Opie live together.
Karen is her stepsister. Ken is Karen's boyfriend. She is
now apparently getting the hots forro Pee.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Oh god, why would you? Why would you not try
to put it the boundaries? Karen? It's in your own
self in.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Trist On, Karen, since I'm in a small city in
the inter Mountain region, the kind that most people in
the same area know each other, a lot of people
had text messages or creepy stories to tell me that
was it for me. I went home and demanded an explanation.
They didn't deny it. They Ken even said Karen had
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said it was fine and I was doing them as
solid as her sister since he had a fantasy he
wanted to go for.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Ah, what what.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You gotta get out of there?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You got you?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Not only is Ken trying to get with you, but
your sister is actively encouraging it out.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Wow do we kind of go?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Oh, sorry, you're right, Justine says half sister. That's what
I meant even worse.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That is so much worse, so much worse, Holy moly.
I mean, do we go like move out, like get
away and basically go like at least low contact with
sister until she realizes the gravity? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Absolutely Yeah, that's like a dangerous Its also just a
dangerous situation to be in because Ken is already showing
that he doesn't care about Opie's like personal boundaries.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Indeed, indeed, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Told them both they were disgusting and that Ken had
to leave or I would be calling the cops.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Ken left with some insults sent my way, and Karen
began telling me she didn't see the problem since my
partner and I were on a break. We were not.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We were on a break one because.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Even if Opi and her partner were on a break,
Opie is not interested in Ken. Yes, so he and
has already explicitly stayed that she doesn't want to in
the house.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And why are you okay with this?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Karen? I told her I was not for her to
sell around like property, and that she had two weeks
to find a place up around. I was done with her.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I called all my relatives, sent them copies of the
text messages I was given and no one in our
family wanted anything to do with Karen. Good bye bye.
She moved in with Ken a few days later. It
took me some effort, but I was able to get
a restraining order for Ken couldn't get one for Karen. Still,
they disappeared from my radar except for a few encounters
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which easily were solved with showing. I was about to
call nine.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
One one nice look at that. Oh he's been very
efficient and probably solved right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And then today happened.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh what happened today?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And I had to hold back my laughter. Mary had
kept tabs on Karen since sisters and all, and she
messaged me with a notice, Hey, Karen just called me
she's pregnant and Ken kicked her out. Who could have
seen that coming? Who could have seen that coming?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I just stared for a few minutes and responded, Oh
that's sad. Mary knew and supports that I don't care
or have any intentions to help. Karen used Mary's phone
to call me. She begged me to help, since Mary's
only letting her stay for a week before she moves
to another state. Said that she missed her little sister,
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and had nowhere else to go to that she knows
I have family health insurance. I pay for private health
insurance for two relatives that are in hard times and
have health conditions, and then I could do something like
that for her pregnancy medical bills. This baby is a
blessing and I should want to help her raise it,
meaning I pay for everything. I let her pour her
heart out for a good five to seven minutes, then
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said nope, I ended the call.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Ah, I love the visions. Yeah, you know, so put
me on the planet. Stir nope, click bye.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
She tried calling again for a while, then stopped when
I got a text message from Mary saying she had
left her phone on the counter and she was sorry
for the spamming. Most of my family agrees with me,
even Karen's mom. The only one that disapproves is Karen's aunt.
Oh that's nice, Karen's aunt. Why don't you take Karen in?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, perfect solution. Yeah, you're you're gonna be a grand aunt.
Don't you hold that responsibility too? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Come on, she's not my aunt, but I called her
aunt anyway. Since I've known her for many years, she's
been putting pressure on me. Most of the day. She
only stopped when I told her one more message and
I would show her text messages to my stepfather, who
is her landlord.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What is this? This is a lot crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I feel bad for the baby to a point, but
this is one of those moments that all I can
think is this is not my circus and these are
not my monkeys. Edit one someone mentioned the region inconsistency.
I never looked in since I didn't really care, but
where I live I heard Midwest and Northwest interchangeably. As
far as I was concerned, it was the same thing.
We don't have those types of regions in my country,
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so I decided to google while at work and found
out neither is right. I live in the Intermunton region.
Thanks random stranger. Also a small explanation on my grandparents.
They were very old traditionalists. By the end of their lives,
they didn't have much to give, so they chose to
give it to the legal grandchildren. My sperm donor father
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had many children. I might not even know all of them.
Grandparents were just tired of every other year having a
new grandchild appear, and in some cases a moocher mother
attached last Karen's visa she had an extension since the VID,
but that's over. She's overstaying her Visah, this is very common.
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I have relatives that do it. I don't agree, but
I also had one foot in since my stepfather is American.
And there is an update. But do you have any
thoughts step any wow vice for ape?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean so many, like random critical details like oh
this personal landlord and like her vis is expiring and
there's a lot going on. There is a lot going
on here, but uh, to put it simply, uh in
summarize what you said earlier, man Opie was freaking quick
with it. Like Opie's like, Nope, this is not happening.
(11:21):
I'm getting the restraining owner. Ken is gonna be nowhere
near me, and I'm not going to deal with this foolishness.
You were out of the house. Yeah, you know, I
think sometimes, you know, these people just get so ridiculous,
and I feel like generally in the stories, people are like, Okay,
well let me give them a chance, as if they're
a reasonable person. Yeah, but maybe it's like you kind
of got to do your best to assess, like, Okay,
(11:44):
are they are they? Are they the mayor of crazy Town?
If they are the mayor and president of crazy Town.
It might just be in your best interest to go
full stop, full send when the first you know, crazy
red flag appears.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I think it's like you do that kind of
you know those like diagrams where it's like yes or no, and.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Then you're down the decision tree.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, it's like, uh, is your is this person crazy?
And then if it's like yes, stop talking though, yeah
or no? Okay, maybe have discussion with them first. Oh
did they respond insanely to that discussion? Stop talking to them?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And okay, story time? How to go knock contact chart
would be would be great, let's got a genius?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, cool? But there is an update. Oh I wasn't
planning to make an update so quick or at all,
but here it is.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
We love we love that, we love it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Small summary. I have two half sisters, Mary and Karen.
Karen used to live with me rent free and decided
to offer me up to her creepy boyfriend like a
side dish.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I kicked her out and went and she went to
live with him. She got pregnant, he threw her to
the curb, and now she wants me to take care
of her and her unborn baby. Now to today. Mary
called me this morning to have brunch and discuss things
related to Karen. She told me she understood I don't
want to be part of the mix, but she really
wanted it to be discussed and after I can just
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walk out. I know Mary, and I know she's just
trying to leave everything in order before she leaves the state.
She's the peacekeeper of my siblings. I agreed on the
condition that there was no way Karen would come home
with me. Mary just said, if she tries to follow you,
I'll drag her out myself. Okay, So I dressed up
and off I went to brunch with my sisters. I'll
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skip the pleasantries and dumb friendly family look, Karen attempted.
Once we were done eating and just having coffee, Mary
set all the cards on the table. She explained she
couldn't take Karen with her out of state because she's
getting married to her longtime girlfriend and they can only
afford a one bedroom in her new city. She also
said Karen was insane if she thought Mary would allow
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her to live with me, even if she had the
power to make me take Karen back in that Karen
was the lucky. She even let her stay with her
for the last few days. She told her the only
reason we were doing this was because her mother had
begged her to at least put Karen somewhere safe or
find a solution for the pregnancy. So she turned to
me and asked me, as the most stable economically, if
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there was anything I would be willing to help with,
I might be an able for this. Feel free to
roast me, but I basically said I would only give
money for three things. One, a termination and a hotel
room while she heals from it.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Straight for the wooing the jugular, the freaking jugular.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Two A ticket back to home country so she can
live with her mother or aunt and get free health care.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's actually, why do we start with that? Why do
we start with one?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Though?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, it is so reasonable, I just love I feel
like Opie's just like gives no crops.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, she's like One. A ticket for her funeral.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Listen, you might be my thing on a hill, but
take for a funeral. Yeah, okay, I'm OPI Three.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
A ticket to her eldest brother's home country so she
can live with him, because I know he will take
her truly two or three were like the very.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Reasonable yes, I yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Mean, you know what all of those were.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I guess it works, it works, but it's just it's just,
you know what it is, Sophia, it's a crazy number one.
It's a crazy one to start.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I think if it were three, I'd be like, oh yeah, yeah,
like we don't want to present her with all the options.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But number one it was. It was a strong start
call golly starts golly.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I also said she had the option to put the
baby up for adoption, but I would not be offering
her a place to stay or away to get medical
care out of my pocket. I gave her some links
to nonprofits she could use. Honestly, overall very considerate and
this is still upholding her boundaries too.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I think, so, I think, so, oh, you didn't have
to do anything. No.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Karen started crying, saying I was trying to take away
her and being a bad sister, that a good sister
would open up her home and help care for her baby,
that I never deserve to have the money I have.
Most of my money is from inheritance on my mother's
side of the family, so not sure how she would
have gotten anything that I was spoiled because my mother
by my mother because she had money. We did because
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after our father left my mother and I with nothing,
she made a company from scratch. Oh had the money
because of that. She got babbling and making a scene,
and then she said something that actually hurt me. You're
just mad because you'll never get pregnant. Yes, I happened
to be infertile. Oh god, No, I can't get treatment
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for it. It is what it is. I already accepted it,
but it still hurts. Wow, Karen is just like truly crazy,
truly crazy. Karen, you literally asking OP for or something. Yeah, yeah,
like like OP is offering you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah. Both. And also all these lu's mine I had
probably hundreds to like a thousand dollar maybe thousands potentially. Yeah,
and you're just spitting in the face of that. Yeah,
that's not a smart move.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Mary knew this was a low blow for me and
basically told Karen one more stupid word like that and
she'll be sleeping in the street tonight. I didn't cry
or anything, just stared. Karen stopped her crying muttering and
seemed to get an idea. She looked at me straight
and told me to adopt her baby.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
What.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I laughed at that. I told her she was insane
if she thought I would adopt her baby. I don't
want her in my life, let alone her X. I
don't blame the baby, but I have absolutely no intentions
to be part of the child's life. I was about
to go off on Karen just for even thinking I
would consider that as an option, but Mary stopped me
in time. She simply said, to Karen, I have the
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options she gave you here are mind. You can get
a termination or you can go back to home country.
Either way, you can't stay here. You are not legal
and your immigration status affects US. If you were to
live with us, I could lose my job and OP
he could lose her residence status. You have until next
Friday to choose. If none of these options work, you
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will have to find your own solution without us. I
don't want you anywhere near my little sister. You put
her at risk of being assaulted or worse. You are lucky.
I have an empty room for one more week for
you to crash in, but after I don't want to
see you in person. We can keep in touch by
Facebook or phone. You've lost the right to spend time
in person with either of us. Shout out to Mary, Dude,
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shout out to Mary.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Mary and op are the queens of setting boundaries.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
They had good mothers. It seems like it seems like
of the mother lottery. Karen kind of did not look
out because it seems like a third their collective. Dad
doesn't seem like a great guy. Yeah, it's kind of
you only got your mom's.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, that's a good observation. Yeah, No, I think, like, man,
we've just you know, I feel like we generally people like, Okay,
how can I not not be the A hole? That's
literally the most asked question, like on the internet, like
am I the A hole?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And it's I don't know. It's an interesting example in
the story to see just being so steadfast and you know,
but but again not an a whole, actually providing a
solution and help and truly doing things again, spending hundreds
to potentially thousands of dollars for someone who was an
a trader trader.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, yeah, Honeybee eighty five says, didn't she complain Opie
was trying to take the baby then offer them maybe
five minutes later also noticed.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
That dude, true eighty five.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So true, but Opi continues. I just stared at Mary.
She's very quiet and normally the most reserved of us,
so this was not expected. Mary paid, didn't even wait
for the change, and left Karen with enough to get
a taxi home. Mary grabbed me by the arm and
took me out. I didn't know how much I needed
someone to just protect me for a change, but I
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did cry a little on the way out from just
pure relief I had one older sister that's still looked
out for me. We decided to go for ice cream
after like we did as kids when bad things happen,
and discussed her plans to spend holidays and vacations together.
Mary's girlfriend also joined us for ice cream, and the
whole time she just made jokes about how sad she's
going to be without her moving table. She's much taller
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than me, and it's a running gag for us. Nothing
too dramatic, thankfully. Mary and our girlfriend are going to
come later for dinner with me. Depending on how this
mess ends, I'll try to update, but at this point
I think it's pretty much done. It is not because
we are only like halfway through. Oh not sure if
Karen will take any of the options we gave her
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or just do her own thing regardless. I have no
intentions of putting my money for anything but what I
said I would, and yes, Mary is my hero. If
anyone as curious and small edit. I got asked this
in a chat and wanted to clear it up. Karen
is not penniless. I gave her ten k at the
start of the year when our grandmother passed away. That
was her part of the thirty K I was given.
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She's also been saving money from her college job. I
worked at the university about four years ago and I
was getting nine dollars an hour. Her mom also sent
her money unless she wasted all her funds. She won't
go home without money. If that was the case, my
brother's Mary and I would all give her something. So
you might be in my blacklist, but she is my
sister at the end of the day. And there is
(21:39):
another update. But yeah, so I don't know what I think.
Maybe Karen just wants someone else to kind of look
after the baby.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Karen is like, oh talk, she wants a full responsibility,
like she wants full credit credit but no responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so. Yeah,
Karen is cuckoo for coca puffs. Let's just get that
just straight right out the gate. Okay, she she let
her freaking creep boyfriend try to get with her with
her half sister. She's like just like crying and saying
She's saying one thing, one sentence, and then the exact opposite,
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you know, accusing, so on and so forth. Yeah, I
I lost my train of thought, but I agree. I'm
just where you're going. I'm jumping on the train, you know.
Karen is just Oh I was gonna say, I truly
think that it should be like her home country has
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free health care. Get the ticket on the plane, take
your savings, yeah, and go home, presumably to your parents
or or your brothers or other family who lives there
that you could try at least attempts to live live
with one of them. The people in I think we're
in America here, I think, so, we're gonna guess. So
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for the secular story, they notffing with you like that.
Nobody is gonna take.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You in, and she's not like her documentation has run out.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
She doesn't have a visa, you don't have legal residency anyways.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, It's like, why are we staying here?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Go home?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Take the free plane ticket and the free health care.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, and and go just go go bye bye. But
there is a final update. Oh I don't know how
final it is. Oh ready to find out.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
We're gonna see Karen has made her choice. Final updates?
What choice?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
As I mentioned in my last post, my sister Mary
and I gave Karen a couple of options for unplanned pregnancy.
The options were a termination on her pregnancy, to get
back to our home country or to our brother's home country,
or she can figure a way to keep her child
or put the baby up for adoption. She had until
tomorrow to choose. Since Mary leaves on Saturday for the
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East Coast. Well, Karen chose none of the above. Of course,
she decided to make life so difficult. She is now arrested.
Oh more than likely will be deported.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Oh wow, I wasn't expecting that left field, okay, when
she could have gone home, had a free flight in
free health care, but she got jail instead.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Let me explain what happened. Tuesday, Mary decided to leave
for a nearby national park to enjoy it one last
time before she moves too far to drive there. She
left Karen with a key and some money. Big mistake.
Mary and her girlfriend returned yesterday and found out all
the locks in their house had been chased.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Stop it, stop it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
To make it worse, Ken Karen supposed X had moved
into their house. What I know, Mary should have seen
this coming? Should she? Should she have? I mean, I
don't know if I would have left care there, but
like I wouldn't have seen that coming.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I mean, it's a wild but they they grew up
as best friends.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
They used to be closer to each other than anyone
myself included. Obviously, police were called and it was just
a major mess. Karen and Ken claimed it was their house.
Mary and her girlfriend kept telling them, no, it's not.
It's not even Mary's house anymore. It was sold and
the new family that owns it arrives on Sunday. Realtor
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was going to give them the key. The police officers
were so done with this mess before it even escalated,
and asked everyone for their IDs. Ken, Mary and Mary's
girlfriend all had their ideas. Karen only had an expired passport.
Karen got arrested on immigration charges. Ken got arrested on
charges related to breaking and entering and some others I
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don't know for sure. I got the second hand from
Mary while she was basically about to commit a unliving
felony had it not been for the officer's presence. O
my god. Today I got called about my sister. Her
lawyers said she claimed to be my surrogate and that
the baby in her was actually my child. And then
because I literally a proof that I'm infertile, you can't
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uh yep, she tried this. I told the lawyer that
I was not looking for a Soviet or adopting a child.
I am already fostering and have no space, and that
my sister got pregnant by accident with Ken asked if
I would be willing to foster her baby since the
child would technically be American.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I said absolutely, not the kids American.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Why don't you just tell you want to raise a
a red blooded American child.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We got a fresh American here.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You'd be crazy not to raise this a little American dude.
He tried to work things out with me, explaining, my
sister will most likely be deported otherwise. I just told them,
if that's the law, then that's how it'll be. Yeah,
I asked him to please not contact me about her anymore.
As far as I'm concerned, the only family she has
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is in our home country, aside from the scare and
new locks. Mary's okay. The realtor has copies of the
new keys for the family that owns the house. And
now my sister and I are planning to have no
contact with Karen. I don't know what exactly will happen
to Karen, nor do I care anymore now, not even
not even aunt in the home country wants anything to
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do with Karen, and even apologize to Mary and I.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Good.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Finally she sees as for Ken, well, who knows. I
hope he goes to jail, but if he doesn't, I
couldn't care less. I now feel like a massive boulder
is off my shoulders and can just focus on work
and teaching my foster daughter about Star Wars. Nice. Uh,
who's your foster daughter?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I feel like, oh, that was the foster family.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
No, no, no, because remember oh, she meaning host family.
I think so. A few sentences ago she was like,
I didn't want the baby. I already am fostering, So
I think my understanding of that was that since maybe
since can't have kids, Opie is fostering kids.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
As yeah, because she did say earlier she has a
foster family. But then I got confused because she said
that she was like.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
She was like a student, and so I was like, what, Yeah,
I guess she is the one that is the foster mom.
I understand. I believe. I believe that's my understanding. Play
me if I'm wrong, let me know.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I think I'm right too. Pinky Slayer says, no, she's
fostering a child, she is adopting.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We have already watched all of the original trilogy and
we have a Clone Wars marathon plan for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Fun let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I want to thank everyone who sent me well wishes
to my sister and I, sister Mary and I, also
to the people that share advice. I am so glad
I took it to heart. This has probably been the
worst roller coaster family mess I've dealt with since my parents' divorce,
and it came absolutely from the one person I suspected
the least. Can't say I have any entitled stories aside
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from this, but this is a pretty good one. Pretty
good Karen was once actually a very good sister. But
I guess when money and comfort are involved, people change
small update that isn't worth a new post. Karen was
offered to leave the US willingly and she will face
no negative effects for status.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Woww I mean where is she from? Yeah? People are
saying Europe and chat Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I mean yeah. Maybe it's probably why they could. Deportation
was so easy for her, That's true. She called my
mom to see if she can convince me to give
my sister the money for the ticket. Mary and I
agreed to be the ticket on the condition she never
again contacts either of us. Her mom is aware of
this and basically told me that Karen will have to
find a job within the month she arrives or she'll
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be in the streets. As for lawyers and stuff, I
have my own immigration lawyer aware of the mess, and
he told me the only way the surrogate ploy would
work would be a DNA match or a contract. None
of that is around, so I'm safe. Mary booked Karen
for a trip back on Friday, and good riddance, let's
go sister came back via the power of the Internet.
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I forgot to link the post since life has been messy.
There's another update. Oh, another update, Update three entitled Sister
Strikes Back, which I think might be influenced by Opie's
watching of Star Wars.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh, that does sound like an influence, but there is
there is an update that is true.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But do you have any thoughts? Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, I think you know. Good on op for navigating
it and figuring, you know, going to this. Just just
what a crazy journey we went through to get here. Yeah,
when it could have just been like, hey, all buy
your ticket home and then her being sure.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, and instead she got forcibly taken home.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Dude. Wow. And I'm also glad that they think they
it was Opie and Mary that both jointly paid for
on the condition they contact neither of them, right, Yeah,
which is a great solution and also like a pretty
a pretty cheap cheap price to pay all things considered,
for getting a crazy care for.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Trying to freaking steal their place, dude, Like they could
have pressed charges.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And falsely say that oh she's actually the mother of
the child, and I'm like a surrogate. Wow, just insane,
really crazy moves. Yeah, I think I think what was
the part I feel like there was some part where
she was like, maybe I don't know if it was
my excuse my sister after all her I wanted to
talk to her more. I might be mistering some part
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of it, because I know she said we're doing this
to go no contact.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, I think it was. Oh it was saying that
was earlier before the whole changing locks fiasco. But she
was saying if she has money, but if she like
really needed money to staff the streets, I would I
would give her that money.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Maybe maybe that's not the case anymore. We don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, I don't know, but I'm just glad all in
all that, OPI is basically setting the hard line of yes,
getting Karen out of her life.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I agree. And you know what else, I hope that
you agree with me on what the air is really
drying out my eyes?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I would Yeah, I am a cold boy.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
My my body is not actually that cold, but my
eyes are quite dry. And any contact.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Users, No, that's true, I would not know.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You wouldn't know. You've got kind of protection. I have
what you have, eye protection. I do have eye protection
for my protection eyes. I said it reversed, but it
still works. But there is an update. Oh I almost
made it to a month without hearing from my half sister,
but okay, read it. You were right, this might not
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be over, might never be over. Also, funny enough, dear
Sis found my post and sent me a scathing email
before I blocked her. But that's really not a big story.
Let's give it to me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Send her to this episode.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, this one, however, pisses me off. So as I
posted before, my older half sister Karen was forcefully but
not really removed by immigration after going insane and trying
to get squatter's rights on a sold house that used
to belong to my other half sister married man an
when you put it like that, and she was escorted out,
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so I know she left. Things were calm for a bit,
and in the meantime I focused on my four year
old foster daughter. I think that the explanation that this
child is four years old also makes the Star Wars
stuff funny. But we're watching the cluone ones now.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We're literally learning about the foster daughter from just like
the most mere bits and snippets.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's like a sea line.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
The yeah, the story.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Absolutely, Let's call her Lily, Lily's mom is one of
my oldest friends. She gave birth in the US, but
Lily's father is not American and unfortunately passed away when
Lily was a baby. God my friend was asked to
leave the US to do her immigration process off country
since she has no one to claim her aside from
a minor child. This sadly means she probably won't be
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able to come into the US until Lily is eighteen.
Oh wow, that's so hard.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That is super awful.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Because of her home country's education system being really bad,
she asked me if I could take Lily. By this point,
I had already kicked Karen out, so I had an
extra room. I told her it was okay if it
was in Lily's best interest. Lily and I are tight
as thieves or and she's always seen me as her
crazy fun aunt took a bit, but three weeks ago
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Lily's guardianship was passed from the state to me. And
just in time for Halloween too.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Would you guys dress up as like daughter and mom?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I was thinking something from Star Wars probably, oh.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Like big ee Walk and small you walk Darth Vader
and Luke skywalk Darth Vader.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, yeah, there we go or U or C and
R two D two.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
No, it needs to be pariental, parental parental. No, pariental, periental.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Shout out to my window, mat Mice window. I'm dropping it.
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
We're skipping trigger treating this year due to the pandemic,
but Lily still wanted to dress up as a scyth.
I freaking call that. I'm so proud of this child,
I swear. My mom was incredibly happy to have a
foster grandchild, especially since Lily actually doesn't have any other grandparents,
so she sent her some fairly fancy Star Wars props. Ooh, obviously,
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we got her dressed up in her syth outfit and
had a mini photo shoot for Grandma, and my mom
posted the pictures on Facebook so Lily's mom could see
them easily. My family and friends went crazy with how
adorable Lily looks. She says she's not adorable, she's sith
and then Karen strikes back.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
No, no, no, Karen, No, we were literally like getting
into into the c plotes.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Now we're back into the a plot. Mom forgot or
decided not to block Karen, and when my half sister
saw Lily's picture. She had some of her best hits,
such as, my four year old looks fat, she's ugly
and clearly going to grow up to be a slut.
She looks like a word I can't say even in writing,
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but starts with an n Oh my god. Oh that's
just a handful, Oh my god. Block her. Block her.
She got called out and told kindly to return to
the darkness. But then she started to call my mother
at every hour to ask for money, to ask how
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to contact me, to tell her she was wasting money
on a kid that was not really her grandchild and
should give her the money for her kid. Karen is
not my mom's daughter. Your mom needs to block her
on everything. How is she calling your mom? But you
know what, you guys should block us because you should
listen to more full episodes of stories just like this
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on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your favorite podcast app. Just
search up. Okay, storytime, do that, yike. There is a
little bit left to this story. But man, oh man,
I mean, man, own man.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Karen, what a devil? Put Karen in a box?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
In a box opper off to the Tartet Tartarus, The
Depths of Tartarus.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
First, we need to make sure the baby is delivered. Yeah,
and then we need to yeah take op and yeah
turn into ethereal spaghetti or whatever number Dakota has come
up with.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, we got we got number sixteen.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Number sixteen. We're up to eighteen now. Oh dang, but
it doesn't get worse as an umbers go up.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It's like it's just different.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
It's like he said, it's like a menu. Yeah, so
it's like the number eighteen might be different from yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Cause fifteen was where we started. Actually I think it
was fourteen.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I was fourteen, Yeah, fourteen, dude, Karen we we we
already knew before this part that Karen was a maniac.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, but she is a racist monster.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Big time, just big time.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Just get wipe her means necessary. Go go go, go
go go, that's all we gotta say.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Well, eventually my mom figured out how to block her.
Finally someone helped this poor woman, and Karen got to
me through a school friend. Oh my god, I would
be like sending out a Facebook blast and just be like,
everyone block my sister. Yes, she said, not one, not two,
but sixteen page long list of demands, or she'll sue
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me for what go ahead?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
One was getting rid of my foster daughter so I
could adopt her baby.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
She doesn't. She wouldn't even need to get rid of
the foster unadopted babies.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Another was an apartment I share with my cousins left
to us by our maternal grandmother. Five hundred K dollars,
my dog and my cat. Oh, and I need to
get her back into the US. And she's going to
sue you with those demands.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Wow, give me half a million dollars and your dog
and your cat. Yeah, and Fluffy and Sprinkles.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
There's still more. Most of it is completely delusional. I
sent a copy to my lawyer to try to pursue
a no contact order in the US. Can't do anything
in my home country, but I did ford another copy
to our relatives, including our eldest brother. He just said
to me he'll take care of it. For the record,
I am not taking Karen's get in, even if I
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didn't have Lily. Her ex was recently released and has
already caused problems for other people. Luckily, he's keeping away
from me, and to clear something up, Karen isn't penniless.
I divided with her and Mary one hundred and fifty
k inheritance in equal parts. She also got money from
her stepfather when he passed in our home country. She's
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actually well off. The only reason I never charged rent
or asked her for money was because I knew the
tuition price was going to be very high and didn't
want her to have to take a loan like I
did for a time.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
But I bet you ten million percent.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
She did not even say up for that.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
That's not on her radar whatsoever. But that is the
end of that story.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wow, dude, she got forty one freaking thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, that's it's insane. And she got stuff from her stepfather.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And so yeah, she got more than forty one thousand dollars.
And listen, I know only get child support. If she
really needed it, probably get child support. I knowed America
and all the things and the healthcare in the school
and everything. Absolutely, but there are people that do not
have forty one thousand dollars that was given to them.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and I have to look off of that.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yes, So, oh my god, the audacity to go to
all these people be like, oh, give me the plane
taken to give me this, and give me that.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You have money.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Dude, you were what what did you do with job?
What did you what did you do with it? Literally,
if you just even got a minimum wage job, you're.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Up minimum wage job. You live with your family members who.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Have all offered free, free healthcare and free health care. Literally,
she has the world made for it, yet she demands
to the point where she will get arrested. Yeah, demanding
people give it to me.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Crazy crazy crazy. Oh my gosh, wowee, wowee wowie.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Doesn't that story?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
But is that the There is another story.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I don't want to spend time with my mother in
law because she triggers my anxiety. Don't trigger me, Stop triggering,
stop it. So I have to say it first. I
love my mother in law, but we have we had
quite a fallout over the summer. My husband, male thirty five,
and me female thirty three live in Europe while my
mother in law lives in Asia. We have some I
don't know if I should call it cultural differences. As
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you say, By the way, it comes from Fluffy employment
six oh one And if you want to share your stories,
send them to our slash Okay story time. So later
that year, I went there for Christmas and for New
Year's which was pretty difficult for me. I wasn't used
to spending as much time with people I barely know
on a small space, but I put it on a
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brave face and I went through it. My husband and
I met shortly before the pandemic and then married during
it three years ago. Wasn't good this time, and I
met my family in person only three times. I didn't
want to disappoint anyone, but the lack of privacy was
taking a toll on me and my borderline personality disorder.
(42:51):
I went to therapy and I'm okay now as long
as I avoid triggers. Because of my borderline personality disorder,
I am quite afraid to meet new people, and I
am always afraid that I might lose control. My husband
knows this. The problem is it is difficult to explain
explain to him some of my reactions or why I
sometimes am running away from people important. We speak ninety
(43:14):
nine percent of the time of time his language. He
spends almost none. Oh, he speaks almost none of mine
and very little in my second language, which is German.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I could be really hard like from people I've talked
to who speak English as their second language, or like
have partners or something who only speak English. That, like,
the mental strain of always speaking in your second language
can be very difficult.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And also we've seen two thousands instances of people not
communicating even in their both sharing a native tongue. Yeah, okay,
so not being able to have that ooh goodness, gracious,
I'm quite good at his language, but I would consider
myself and not good enough to live in his country yet.
Ooh that's important. Is like a ninety day fiance type situation.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well, also it could be I think, wait, oh he's
not German, right, so germane language okay?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I mean like a lot of times people especially from Europe,
think that three English is not that good when it's
like pretty good, better than ours, yeah, and we're like, no,
it's that was pretty good. They're like, oh, no, I
don't speak English, and then they're like fluid.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, it's like better literacy than America, Like, well, okay.
The difference is also during my childhood, my father never
let people we didn't know spend time at our house,
let alone say the night. I'm also quite strict with
this rule. Only people that I personally know, and I'm
not afraid of are allowed to come to my home.
My husband knows this and respects this, and I as
I am accepting much more rules from his culture. So
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this one I am out of it about until the summer.
Mother in law wanted to see my husband at work.
He works at a famous music festival. Tell us, we're
gonna say Coachella, because why are you being so vague?
Come on and stop with the insert festival, insert sport,
insert niche.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Just to give it, even if you're lying to me,
put something in there.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, and just for like a fake name, come up anyways,
a fake country, fake country, fake fake Coachella.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
He's like, I'm from Genovia, Genovia.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
So she said she would come to Europe with my
brother in law. At first it was two weeks. I
canceled my plans with a friend to move my vacation
at work to take care of them. My husband is
always at this festival for two months in the summer.
My god and I stay at home alone for two weeks.
From two weeks it was three weeks, and that a person,
that person a is coming with them. The problem is
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my husband did not specify who this person is, and
he never asked if I'm okay with it. He only
informed me. At first, I thought it was person B
whom I personally said it's okay to stay at her house.
I was so wrong. It was mother in law's best
friends who inserted herself into the strip, and mother in
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law never asked me directly. I found out about this
months later, and boy, it gave me anxiety. It caused
me a lot of arguments with my husband, and I
was afraid to send them into a hotel as I
was afraid that mother in law would hate me. She
was already upset her friend could not go to a
family barbecue, which was for her and brother in law
to meet my family for the first time. I was
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also very anxious as I had to finish an article
and my master's thesis and had to work a few
days full time. During summer. We get a maximum of
fourteen days off haul man. Normally, I'm ragging on the
million days off at Europe gets, but opie schedule actually
sounds crazy. I'm not gonna lie lea oh Man. So
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I had to drive a car after ten years and
had some minor adjusting problems in the beginning, and a
friend let's call her Anna seventy four had some not
very nice comments about it. I can't describe everything that
would happened here, but in short, Anna got angry because
she couldn't use the bathroom sink for or in evening.
I had to repair it as I didn't have all
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the utensils and it was night, and she had the
audacity to slam the doors in my house as a guest.
She also got lost in a foreign city they went
as a trio had I had to work and mother
in law and brother in law waited for her in
the heat thirty six degrees celsius for two hours, which
is freakin' that's almost like one hundred deguese fair, that's
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hok Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's almost a hundred. That's forty is about hundred?
Speaker 2 (47:26):
That is true?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, it's like ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Right y. Also, Sophia, what do you think about what's
happening here so far?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
I don't like it?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yep, yep, I agree.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I don't like it one bit, and I've I've absorbed
all of it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That's true. Ten percent reading comprehension. Then it was mother
in lass no, no, okay. As we were returning from
my grandma's in a neighboring country. I said twice, I
will be doing laundry because I don't have enough room
for dry laundry for four people and I am in
another country the next day and they are free. I
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also said if our neighbors have a problem with it,
I will talk to them. They all agreed. I live
in a house with a few neighbors, and you are
not allowed to be loud after ten ten thank you
after ten pm, and washing machines are quite loud here. Okay,
that's maybe a little bit ridiculous, but we'll see. So
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I went to park the car, and as I was returning,
mother in law messaged me if they could do the laundry.
I repeated what I said earlier, hoping they understood. We
have a smart washing machine and can remote control it,
and I also get a push message when it's done.
I was already drained and tired as I was driving
a lot and also translating for them all day. On
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my way home, I received a message that the laundry
is done. You mean the laundry that's supposed to do
It wasn't supposed to be done. It's done. Come on.
That's when I lost control. Unlike the remote control washing machine,
which is very much within people's control. I came home,
slammed the door, and argued heavily and loudly over the
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phone with my husband. Why did he ignore what I
said and let them do the laundry. My mother in
law then screamed at me.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Which probably also isn't good for the noise complaints.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
That is a great point in callback. Sophia is comprehendively.
I comprehended, and then even worse for the noise curfew.
Mother in law screamed at me, why am I screaming
at her son? And if I hate them, they would leave.
I felt very hurt, but apologized after two hours of
me kneeling in front of her my husband on the phone.
She said it was her fault as she never told
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my husband about our agreement. WHOA She even apologized, Well, okay,
what has happened? So she's we went like all the
way up and then all the way back down.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Literally they like crashed out. He's like the kneeling on
the floor right on did She's like, I'm sorry, And
then I was like I forgive you and I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Sorry for how I to do. So all is good? Yeah,
it's perfect, I think so. But this whole situation me
losing control in front of Anna, who didn't know I
have a borderline personality disorder. In their culture and their culture,
mental issues are not talked about and so not really understood.
My mother in law knows about it, but I don't
know if she really understands. She also knows about my
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massive childhood trauma that made me this way. I felt
extremely embarrassed and wanted to no. My mother in law
also said she doesn't think it would be okay to
have children with her son if I can't control myself.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Maybe if you didn't push all her buttons.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, anything would be fine. And Mama that that's not
your place. I'm sorry, No, that's listen. These are These
are two adults, and if they want to have a baby,
well you have It's it's not up to you to
have your royal decree of granniness. You might even not
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get to beat either granny. You might be a gone
granny if you ask me. Anyways, that hurt the most.
I was really doing everything, but I was under immense
pressure and stress. After this incidents, I built a wall
around me and refused to spend a longer time with him.
I also don't message her as much as I used to,
just the necessary I feel. I felt very disrespected by
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her and Anna. Although I should have sent them to
a hotel immediately, I was just too afraid she would
hate me. We said a new rule with my husband.
No one will stay over at our home for a
longer than a weekend, not even my family. And this
rule is also for our home. If we move to
his country, he has to ask me, and I also
have to ask him every time we want to have
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someone come over to party or for the weekend. But
my word is final. If I hadn't known the person, well,
he doesn't even have to bother ask him.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Because you guys are comedic, we're talking.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
We were supposed to go to his country from February
twenty twenty five for three weeks. Now we're talking about
the future as of this recording. Who At first, we
were going to mother in law's house for two weeks.
Every time I thought about it, I felt extremely uncomfortable
and anxious to the point of a yakin. So I
said I'll book a hotel. My husband are really angry
and accused me of hating mother in law. Yeah, that's
(52:23):
not the case.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Oh, it's not the case.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
It's not the case.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh okay, I just needed the distance. Sophia hate the
mother in law, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
I just need distance, all right, Okay, all right, okay,
I need to adjust myself to the situation and rebuild
a normal relationship with her. That won't work for me
being thrown to her house for two weeks with anxiety
over the roof. Pun intended by the way. If you
want to hear more great puns, more great stories, guys,
go to Spotify search okay, storytime or or Apple Podcasts
(52:55):
wherever you listen to podcasts, and we have full episodes
with stories just like this. It's it's really amazing. It's
really the greatest thing.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
So we do it bread ain't that true?
Speaker 2 (53:06):
But we have a little bit left in the story,
so we got to stick around to see what happens there.
But I also feel, what are we what do we feel?
I feel like we've had actually kind of like a mix. Yes,
you know, it's not it's not a clear cut situation, no, because.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
It seems like, you know, they had the big blow
up fight with the mother in law and then she apologized,
and then we were like, oh, well, did the husband
you know, let her watch the laundry anyway? And then
we found out that he didn't know, and now he's
mad at her because she doesn't want to spend time
with his mother. It's a whole mess of things, a
whole mess. I think you just need to have a
conversation with your husband and say, hey, I've been like
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you know, about my BPD and this has been like
creating a lot of anxiety in me to the point
where it's inhibiting my ability to kind of go about
my day to day. Yes, and hope that he understands that, Yeah,
I see if he doesn't nothing, I'm a good partner.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
I need time to process her as a new person
in my life, and as we couldn't meet that much before,
I need some neutral space for that. He doesn't understand that.
As a compromise, I said, I will stay for four
days at her house, specifically on the days she's working,
so I will meet her only in the evening. Then
I will travel parts of the country alone while my
husband will run his errands, and then he'll meet me halfway.
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So am I the ahole for not? When he spending
time with my mother in law. Am I overthinking? Am
I too sensitive? Or is it okay to protect myself
first and then in an extended way everyone else? A
great question to end this off, Sophia, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I think it's always a good thing to protect yourself.
I mean, there is a thing as too sensitive, but
it usually comes from a kind of not genuine place,
whereas you are experiencing tremendous, tremendous amounts of anxiety that
are hurting you. And so I don't think that means
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you're too sensitive. It just means that you need to,
you know, be gentle with yourself and don't let people
invade your space and you know, exacerbate that.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
I agree. I think like, especially when it's a relationship
with two people, everyone's always like, oh, is this unreasonable?
But really the question is is it first reasonable to
you and then is it reasonable to your partner? Yeah?
And you know what, sometimes there is a misalignment and
we could acknowledge and be like, Okay, this is what
(55:32):
I want and this is what you want. Hey, maybe
it doesn't align, could be compromised, could we do something?
But I do think in general, as long as you're
not like hurting anyone or doing something malicious. It is
I think generally like okay to just be like, hey,
this is this is what I want because this is
how this affects me. Yeah, personally, does it make you
(55:53):
a monster? No it does not. In fact, it means
you stand up for yourself and that is good. I agreed,
But we're gonna have to sit down because this episode
is freaking done. It's freaking over, freaking over. If you
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Cinamo
I refuse to help my pregnant sister because she tried
to exploit me.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Don't exploit, don't just don't dun't so.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I twenty seven, female, moved to the US almost seven
years ago. I have two half sisters from my father's side,
all from different women. We used to be very close,
and despite both of them being illegitimate, I shared with
them part of what little inheritance I got from my grandparents.
They never recognized them and left them nothing. By the way,
this comes from Throwaway for no drama, and if you
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storytime severed it so. Two years ago, my sisters also
moved to the US. The middle sister, twenty eight, let's
call her Mary, got a company to host her with
the work visa. The eldest, thirty, Karen not her real name,
got a student visa and moved in with me. Since
I was already working and earning a good salary. The
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arrangement was that I would pay bills, she would get
a job at the university since she's not allowed to
work outside, and that her spending money. I would cover
all bills and food. The only thing I asked was
to help with some minor chores. I have a dog
and a cat, and I told her she had no
responsibility while she had school and work. It was fine
since I work from home and I have a step
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family that helped me maintain my home, mostly because I'm
the free babysitter for them. Oh you have a step family,
what does that mean? The pretty sweet deal for a student, right? Okay, Well,
apparently that wasn't enough. While she was in school, Karen
met Ken. I knew Ken from the time I went
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to university. He's a creep, but I thought it was harmless.
Karen was head over heels for him. I warned her
Ken had a bad reputation at the university, but she
didn't care.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
She don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
She's a big girl. So I let it be with
the only condition that Ken was not allowed in my place.
The VID hits and my hours were cut. Karen school
goes on pause, and she loses her campus job. Because
of all of this, we moved into a small apartment.
I took a second job and did some freelance on
the side. Needless to say, I had no personal life.
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I am dating someone, but he was also swamped with
work and bills, so we barely met each other. Bummer,
But I guess if you're both busy, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hey, let's like date. But we have no time to
see each other.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But yeah, like maybe you guys can just like take
naps together.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, I guess that's better than just it's like mentally,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm a big proponent of just
working in the same space together. Like I don't even
need to talk, and no one, no one's on that grind,
you know. During this time, Karen and Ken apparently got closer,
and he began to appear in the apartment. Karen was
not part of my lease, but my landlord was very understanding.
Ken began making really inappropriate comments about me. I am
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not a beauty queen. I just look a bit exotic.
As Ken put it, I mixed trace from the Caribbean,
so I have a bit of everything, and somehow it
all shows Karen looks more like our father. He was
of European descent. White. In all honesty, Karen.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Is more attractive.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Karen is more attractive. I only look foreign. In this
little intra mountain region city, Ken would go out of
his way to touch me and was just invasive. No No,
I managed to just keep in my room when he
was around, or used the excuse.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That my pets needed a walk.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Also, the like the immediate, just not even recognizing the
boundaries that he's put in place, saying hey, I don't
want him here.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yes, already, point blank, period should be done.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I didn't know exactly why, but Karen kept pushing for
me to spend time on my own with Ken. It
will be good for you to bond with your future
brother in law. They'd only been dating seven months at
this point. She's she's very optimistice whatever. I didn't care.
I found excuses to avoid it. November twenty twenty, I
got a better position at my main career job, so
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I was able to quit my second job and have
more meat time. I reconnected with friends and one of
them asked me if I was okay. I asked why,
and he told me Ken had been saying he was
very close to getting me for personal time.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Huh, personal time.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
No time.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I was not okay with that idea, and I very
loudly said I would rather be hit by a train
than do anything with Ken. There we go, and Ken
is presumably still dating Karen, So what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah? What is this? What is this?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And? Sorry? What is Karen's relation to OPI again?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Karen is her stepsister Raw Karen and Opie live together.
Karen is her stepsister. Ken is Karen's boyfriend. She is
now apparently getting the hots forro Pee.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Oh god, why would you? Why would you not try
to put it the boundaries? Karen? It's in your own
self in.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Trist On, Karen, since I'm in a small city in
the inter Mountain region, the kind that most people in
the same area know each other, a lot of people
had text messages or creepy stories to tell me that
was it for me. I went home and demanded an explanation.
They didn't deny it. They Ken even said Karen had
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said it was fine and I was doing them as
solid as her sister since he had a fantasy he
wanted to go for.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Ah, what what.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You gotta get out of there?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You got you?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Not only is Ken trying to get with you, but
your sister is actively encouraging it out.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Wow do we kind of go?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Oh, sorry, you're right, Justine says half sister. That's what
I meant even worse.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That is so much worse, so much worse, Holy moly.
I mean, do we go like move out, like get
away and basically go like at least low contact with
sister until she realizes the gravity? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Absolutely Yeah, that's like a dangerous Its also just a
dangerous situation to be in because Ken is already showing
that he doesn't care about Opie's like personal boundaries.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Indeed, indeed, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Told them both they were disgusting and that Ken had
to leave or I would be calling the cops.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Ken left with some insults sent my way, and Karen
began telling me she didn't see the problem since my
partner and I were on a break. We were not.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We were on a break one because.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Even if Opi and her partner were on a break,
Opie is not interested in Ken. Yes, so he and
has already explicitly stayed that she doesn't want to in
the house.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And why are you okay with this?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Karen? I told her I was not for her to
sell around like property, and that she had two weeks
to find a place up around. I was done with her.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I called all my relatives, sent them copies of the
text messages I was given and no one in our
family wanted anything to do with Karen. Good bye bye.
She moved in with Ken a few days later. It
took me some effort, but I was able to get
a restraining order for Ken couldn't get one for Karen. Still,
they disappeared from my radar except for a few encounters
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which easily were solved with showing. I was about to
call nine.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
One one nice look at that. Oh he's been very
efficient and probably solved right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And then today happened.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh what happened today?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And I had to hold back my laughter. Mary had
kept tabs on Karen since sisters and all, and she
messaged me with a notice, Hey, Karen just called me
she's pregnant and Ken kicked her out. Who could have
seen that coming? Who could have seen that coming?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I just stared for a few minutes and responded, Oh
that's sad. Mary knew and supports that I don't care
or have any intentions to help. Karen used Mary's phone
to call me. She begged me to help, since Mary's
only letting her stay for a week before she moves
to another state. Said that she missed her little sister,
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and had nowhere else to go to that she knows
I have family health insurance. I pay for private health
insurance for two relatives that are in hard times and
have health conditions, and then I could do something like
that for her pregnancy medical bills. This baby is a
blessing and I should want to help her raise it,
meaning I pay for everything. I let her pour her
heart out for a good five to seven minutes, then
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said nope, I ended the call.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Ah, I love the visions. Yeah, you know, so put
me on the planet. Stir nope, click bye.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
She tried calling again for a while, then stopped when
I got a text message from Mary saying she had
left her phone on the counter and she was sorry
for the spamming. Most of my family agrees with me,
even Karen's mom. The only one that disapproves is Karen's aunt.
Oh that's nice, Karen's aunt. Why don't you take Karen in?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, perfect solution. Yeah, you're you're gonna be a grand aunt.
Don't you hold that responsibility too? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Come on, she's not my aunt, but I called her
aunt anyway. Since I've known her for many years, she's
been putting pressure on me. Most of the day. She
only stopped when I told her one more message and
I would show her text messages to my stepfather, who
is her landlord.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What is this? This is a lot crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I feel bad for the baby to a point, but
this is one of those moments that all I can
think is this is not my circus and these are
not my monkeys. Edit one someone mentioned the region inconsistency.
I never looked in since I didn't really care, but
where I live I heard Midwest and Northwest interchangeably. As
far as I was concerned, it was the same thing.
We don't have those types of regions in my country,
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so I decided to google while at work and found
out neither is right. I live in the Intermunton region.
Thanks random stranger. Also a small explanation on my grandparents.
They were very old traditionalists. By the end of their lives,
they didn't have much to give, so they chose to
give it to the legal grandchildren. My sperm donor father
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had many children. I might not even know all of them.
Grandparents were just tired of every other year having a
new grandchild appear, and in some cases a moocher mother
attached last Karen's visa she had an extension since the VID,
but that's over. She's overstaying her Visah, this is very common.
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I have relatives that do it. I don't agree, but
I also had one foot in since my stepfather is American.
And there is an update. But do you have any
thoughts step any wow vice for ape?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean so many, like random critical details like oh
this personal landlord and like her vis is expiring and
there's a lot going on. There is a lot going
on here, but uh, to put it simply, uh in
summarize what you said earlier, man Opie was freaking quick
with it. Like Opie's like, Nope, this is not happening.
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I'm getting the restraining owner. Ken is gonna be nowhere
near me, and I'm not going to deal with this foolishness.
You were out of the house. Yeah, you know, I
think sometimes, you know, these people just get so ridiculous,
and I feel like generally in the stories, people are like, Okay,
well let me give them a chance, as if they're
a reasonable person. Yeah, but maybe it's like you kind
of got to do your best to assess, like, Okay,
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are they are they? Are they the mayor of crazy Town?
If they are the mayor and president of crazy Town.
It might just be in your best interest to go
full stop, full send when the first you know, crazy
red flag appears.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I think it's like you do that kind of
you know those like diagrams where it's like yes or no, and.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Then you're down the decision tree.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, it's like, uh, is your is this person crazy?
And then if it's like yes, stop talking though, yeah
or no? Okay, maybe have discussion with them first. Oh
did they respond insanely to that discussion? Stop talking to them?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And okay, story time? How to go knock contact chart
would be would be great, let's got a genius?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, cool? But there is an update. Oh I wasn't
planning to make an update so quick or at all,
but here it is.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
We love we love that, we love it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Small summary. I have two half sisters, Mary and Karen.
Karen used to live with me rent free and decided
to offer me up to her creepy boyfriend like a
side dish.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I kicked her out and went and she went to
live with him. She got pregnant, he threw her to
the curb, and now she wants me to take care
of her and her unborn baby. Now to today. Mary
called me this morning to have brunch and discuss things
related to Karen. She told me she understood I don't
want to be part of the mix, but she really
wanted it to be discussed and after I can just
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walk out. I know Mary, and I know she's just
trying to leave everything in order before she leaves the state.
She's the peacekeeper of my siblings. I agreed on the
condition that there was no way Karen would come home
with me. Mary just said, if she tries to follow you,
I'll drag her out myself. Okay, So I dressed up
and off I went to brunch with my sisters. I'll
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skip the pleasantries and dumb friendly family look, Karen attempted.
Once we were done eating and just having coffee, Mary
set all the cards on the table. She explained she
couldn't take Karen with her out of state because she's
getting married to her longtime girlfriend and they can only
afford a one bedroom in her new city. She also
said Karen was insane if she thought Mary would allow
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her to live with me, even if she had the
power to make me take Karen back in that Karen
was the lucky. She even let her stay with her
for the last few days. She told her the only
reason we were doing this was because her mother had
begged her to at least put Karen somewhere safe or
find a solution for the pregnancy. So she turned to
me and asked me, as the most stable economically, if
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there was anything I would be willing to help with,
I might be an able for this. Feel free to
roast me, but I basically said I would only give
money for three things. One, a termination and a hotel
room while she heals from it.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Straight for the wooing the jugular, the freaking jugular.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Two A ticket back to home country so she can
live with her mother or aunt and get free health care.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's actually, why do we start with that? Why do
we start with one?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Though?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, it is so reasonable, I just love I feel
like Opie's just like gives no crops.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, she's like One. A ticket for her funeral.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Listen, you might be my thing on a hill, but
take for a funeral. Yeah, okay, I'm OPI Three.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
A ticket to her eldest brother's home country so she
can live with him, because I know he will take
her truly two or three were like the very.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Reasonable yes, I yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Mean, you know what all of those were.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I guess it works, it works, but it's just it's just,
you know what it is, Sophia, it's a crazy number one.
It's a crazy one to start.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I think if it were three, I'd be like, oh yeah, yeah,
like we don't want to present her with all the options.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But number one it was. It was a strong start
call golly starts golly.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I also said she had the option to put the
baby up for adoption, but I would not be offering
her a place to stay or away to get medical
care out of my pocket. I gave her some links
to nonprofits she could use. Honestly, overall very considerate and
this is still upholding her boundaries too.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I think, so, I think, so, oh, you didn't have
to do anything. No.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Karen started crying, saying I was trying to take away
her and being a bad sister, that a good sister
would open up her home and help care for her baby,
that I never deserve to have the money I have.
Most of my money is from inheritance on my mother's
side of the family, so not sure how she would
have gotten anything that I was spoiled because my mother
by my mother because she had money. We did because
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after our father left my mother and I with nothing,
she made a company from scratch. Oh had the money
because of that. She got babbling and making a scene,
and then she said something that actually hurt me. You're
just mad because you'll never get pregnant. Yes, I happened
to be infertile. Oh god, No, I can't get treatment
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for it. It is what it is. I already accepted it,
but it still hurts. Wow, Karen is just like truly crazy,
truly crazy. Karen, you literally asking OP for or something. Yeah, yeah,
like like OP is offering you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah. Both. And also all these lu's mine I had
probably hundreds to like a thousand dollar maybe thousands potentially. Yeah,
and you're just spitting in the face of that. Yeah,
that's not a smart move.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Mary knew this was a low blow for me and
basically told Karen one more stupid word like that and
she'll be sleeping in the street tonight. I didn't cry
or anything, just stared. Karen stopped her crying muttering and
seemed to get an idea. She looked at me straight
and told me to adopt her baby.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
What.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I laughed at that. I told her she was insane
if she thought I would adopt her baby. I don't
want her in my life, let alone her X. I
don't blame the baby, but I have absolutely no intentions
to be part of the child's life. I was about
to go off on Karen just for even thinking I
would consider that as an option, but Mary stopped me
in time. She simply said, to Karen, I have the
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options she gave you here are mind. You can get
a termination or you can go back to home country.
Either way, you can't stay here. You are not legal
and your immigration status affects US. If you were to
live with us, I could lose my job and OP
he could lose her residence status. You have until next
Friday to choose. If none of these options work, you
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will have to find your own solution without us. I
don't want you anywhere near my little sister. You put
her at risk of being assaulted or worse. You are lucky.
I have an empty room for one more week for
you to crash in, but after I don't want to
see you in person. We can keep in touch by
Facebook or phone. You've lost the right to spend time
in person with either of us. Shout out to Mary, Dude,
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shout out to Mary.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Mary and op are the queens of setting boundaries.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
They had good mothers. It seems like it seems like
of the mother lottery. Karen kind of did not look
out because it seems like a third their collective. Dad
doesn't seem like a great guy. Yeah, it's kind of
you only got your mom's.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, that's a good observation. Yeah, No, I think, like, man,
we've just you know, I feel like we generally people like, Okay,
how can I not not be the A hole? That's
literally the most asked question, like on the internet, like
am I the A hole?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And it's I don't know. It's an interesting example in
the story to see just being so steadfast and you know,
but but again not an a whole, actually providing a
solution and help and truly doing things again, spending hundreds
to potentially thousands of dollars for someone who was an
a trader trader.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, yeah, Honeybee eighty five says, didn't she complain Opie
was trying to take the baby then offer them maybe
five minutes later also noticed.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
That dude, true eighty five.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So true, but Opi continues. I just stared at Mary.
She's very quiet and normally the most reserved of us,
so this was not expected. Mary paid, didn't even wait
for the change, and left Karen with enough to get
a taxi home. Mary grabbed me by the arm and
took me out. I didn't know how much I needed
someone to just protect me for a change, but I
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did cry a little on the way out from just
pure relief I had one older sister that's still looked
out for me. We decided to go for ice cream
after like we did as kids when bad things happen,
and discussed her plans to spend holidays and vacations together.
Mary's girlfriend also joined us for ice cream, and the
whole time she just made jokes about how sad she's
going to be without her moving table. She's much taller
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than me, and it's a running gag for us. Nothing
too dramatic, thankfully. Mary and our girlfriend are going to
come later for dinner with me. Depending on how this
mess ends, I'll try to update, but at this point
I think it's pretty much done. It is not because
we are only like halfway through. Oh not sure if
Karen will take any of the options we gave her
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or just do her own thing regardless. I have no
intentions of putting my money for anything but what I
said I would, and yes, Mary is my hero. If
anyone as curious and small edit. I got asked this
in a chat and wanted to clear it up. Karen
is not penniless. I gave her ten k at the
start of the year when our grandmother passed away. That
was her part of the thirty K I was given.
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She's also been saving money from her college job. I
worked at the university about four years ago and I
was getting nine dollars an hour. Her mom also sent
her money unless she wasted all her funds. She won't
go home without money. If that was the case, my
brother's Mary and I would all give her something. So
you might be in my blacklist, but she is my
sister at the end of the day. And there is
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another update. But yeah, so I don't know what I think.
Maybe Karen just wants someone else to kind of look
after the baby.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Karen is like, oh talk, she wants a full responsibility,
like she wants full credit credit but no responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so. Yeah,
Karen is cuckoo for coca puffs. Let's just get that
just straight right out the gate. Okay, she she let
her freaking creep boyfriend try to get with her with
her half sister. She's like just like crying and saying
She's saying one thing, one sentence, and then the exact opposite,
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you know, accusing, so on and so forth. Yeah, I
I lost my train of thought, but I agree. I'm
just where you're going. I'm jumping on the train, you know.
Karen is just Oh I was gonna say, I truly
think that it should be like her home country has
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free health care. Get the ticket on the plane, take
your savings, yeah, and go home, presumably to your parents
or or your brothers or other family who lives there
that you could try at least attempts to live live
with one of them. The people in I think we're
in America here, I think, so, we're gonna guess. So
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for the secular story, they notffing with you like that.
Nobody is gonna take.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You in, and she's not like her documentation has run out.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
She doesn't have a visa, you don't have legal residency anyways.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, It's like, why are we staying here?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Go home?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Take the free plane ticket and the free health care.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, and and go just go go bye bye. But
there is a final update. Oh I don't know how
final it is. Oh ready to find out.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
We're gonna see Karen has made her choice. Final updates?
What choice?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
As I mentioned in my last post, my sister Mary
and I gave Karen a couple of options for unplanned pregnancy.
The options were a termination on her pregnancy, to get
back to our home country or to our brother's home country,
or she can figure a way to keep her child
or put the baby up for adoption. She had until
tomorrow to choose. Since Mary leaves on Saturday for the
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East Coast. Well, Karen chose none of the above. Of course,
she decided to make life so difficult. She is now arrested.
Oh more than likely will be deported.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Oh wow, I wasn't expecting that left field, okay, when
she could have gone home, had a free flight in
free health care, but she got jail instead.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Let me explain what happened. Tuesday, Mary decided to leave
for a nearby national park to enjoy it one last
time before she moves too far to drive there. She
left Karen with a key and some money. Big mistake.
Mary and her girlfriend returned yesterday and found out all
the locks in their house had been chased.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Stop it, stop it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
To make it worse, Ken Karen supposed X had moved
into their house. What I know, Mary should have seen
this coming? Should she? Should she have? I mean, I
don't know if I would have left care there, but
like I wouldn't have seen that coming.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I mean, it's a wild but they they grew up
as best friends.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
They used to be closer to each other than anyone
myself included. Obviously, police were called and it was just
a major mess. Karen and Ken claimed it was their house.
Mary and her girlfriend kept telling them, no, it's not.
It's not even Mary's house anymore. It was sold and
the new family that owns it arrives on Sunday. Realtor
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was going to give them the key. The police officers
were so done with this mess before it even escalated,
and asked everyone for their IDs. Ken, Mary and Mary's
girlfriend all had their ideas. Karen only had an expired passport.
Karen got arrested on immigration charges. Ken got arrested on
charges related to breaking and entering and some others I
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don't know for sure. I got the second hand from
Mary while she was basically about to commit a unliving
felony had it not been for the officer's presence. O
my god. Today I got called about my sister. Her
lawyers said she claimed to be my surrogate and that
the baby in her was actually my child. And then
because I literally a proof that I'm infertile, you can't
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uh yep, she tried this. I told the lawyer that
I was not looking for a Soviet or adopting a child.
I am already fostering and have no space, and that
my sister got pregnant by accident with Ken asked if
I would be willing to foster her baby since the
child would technically be American.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I said absolutely, not the kids American.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Why don't you just tell you want to raise a
a red blooded American child.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We got a fresh American here.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You'd be crazy not to raise this a little American dude.
He tried to work things out with me, explaining, my
sister will most likely be deported otherwise. I just told them,
if that's the law, then that's how it'll be. Yeah,
I asked him to please not contact me about her anymore.
As far as I'm concerned, the only family she has
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is in our home country, aside from the scare and
new locks. Mary's okay. The realtor has copies of the
new keys for the family that owns the house. And
now my sister and I are planning to have no
contact with Karen. I don't know what exactly will happen
to Karen, nor do I care anymore now, not even
not even aunt in the home country wants anything to
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do with Karen, and even apologize to Mary and I.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Good.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Finally she sees as for Ken, well, who knows. I
hope he goes to jail, but if he doesn't, I
couldn't care less. I now feel like a massive boulder
is off my shoulders and can just focus on work
and teaching my foster daughter about Star Wars. Nice. Uh,
who's your foster daughter?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I feel like, oh, that was the foster family.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
No, no, no, because remember oh, she meaning host family.
I think so. A few sentences ago she was like,
I didn't want the baby. I already am fostering, So
I think my understanding of that was that since maybe
since can't have kids, Opie is fostering kids.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
As yeah, because she did say earlier she has a
foster family. But then I got confused because she said
that she was like.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
She was like a student, and so I was like, what, Yeah,
I guess she is the one that is the foster mom.
I understand. I believe. I believe that's my understanding. Play
me if I'm wrong, let me know.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I think I'm right too. Pinky Slayer says, no, she's
fostering a child, she is adopting.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We have already watched all of the original trilogy and
we have a Clone Wars marathon plan for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Fun let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I want to thank everyone who sent me well wishes
to my sister and I, sister Mary and I, also
to the people that share advice. I am so glad
I took it to heart. This has probably been the
worst roller coaster family mess I've dealt with since my parents' divorce,
and it came absolutely from the one person I suspected
the least. Can't say I have any entitled stories aside
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from this, but this is a pretty good one. Pretty
good Karen was once actually a very good sister. But
I guess when money and comfort are involved, people change
small update that isn't worth a new post. Karen was
offered to leave the US willingly and she will face
no negative effects for status.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Woww I mean where is she from? Yeah? People are
saying Europe and chat Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I mean yeah. Maybe it's probably why they could. Deportation
was so easy for her, That's true. She called my
mom to see if she can convince me to give
my sister the money for the ticket. Mary and I
agreed to be the ticket on the condition she never
again contacts either of us. Her mom is aware of
this and basically told me that Karen will have to
find a job within the month she arrives or she'll
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be in the streets. As for lawyers and stuff, I
have my own immigration lawyer aware of the mess, and
he told me the only way the surrogate ploy would
work would be a DNA match or a contract. None
of that is around, so I'm safe. Mary booked Karen
for a trip back on Friday, and good riddance, let's
go sister came back via the power of the Internet.
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I forgot to link the post since life has been messy.
There's another update. Oh, another update, Update three entitled Sister
Strikes Back, which I think might be influenced by Opie's
watching of Star Wars.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh, that does sound like an influence, but there is
there is an update that is true.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But do you have any thoughts? Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, I think you know. Good on op for navigating
it and figuring, you know, going to this. Just just
what a crazy journey we went through to get here. Yeah,
when it could have just been like, hey, all buy
your ticket home and then her being sure.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, and instead she got forcibly taken home.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Dude. Wow. And I'm also glad that they think they
it was Opie and Mary that both jointly paid for
on the condition they contact neither of them, right, Yeah,
which is a great solution and also like a pretty
a pretty cheap cheap price to pay all things considered,
for getting a crazy care for.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Trying to freaking steal their place, dude, Like they could
have pressed charges.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And falsely say that oh she's actually the mother of
the child, and I'm like a surrogate. Wow, just insane,
really crazy moves. Yeah, I think I think what was
the part I feel like there was some part where
she was like, maybe I don't know if it was
my excuse my sister after all her I wanted to
talk to her more. I might be mistering some part
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of it, because I know she said we're doing this
to go no contact.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, I think it was. Oh it was saying that
was earlier before the whole changing locks fiasco. But she
was saying if she has money, but if she like
really needed money to staff the streets, I would I
would give her that money.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Maybe maybe that's not the case anymore. We don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, I don't know, but I'm just glad all in
all that, OPI is basically setting the hard line of yes,
getting Karen out of her life.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I agree. And you know what else, I hope that
you agree with me on what the air is really
drying out my eyes?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I would Yeah, I am a cold boy.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
My my body is not actually that cold, but my
eyes are quite dry. And any contact.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Users, No, that's true, I would not know.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You wouldn't know. You've got kind of protection. I have
what you have, eye protection. I do have eye protection
for my protection eyes. I said it reversed, but it
still works. But there is an update. Oh I almost
made it to a month without hearing from my half sister,
but okay, read it. You were right, this might not
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be over, might never be over. Also, funny enough, dear
Sis found my post and sent me a scathing email
before I blocked her. But that's really not a big story.
Let's give it to me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Send her to this episode.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, this one, however, pisses me off. So as I
posted before, my older half sister Karen was forcefully but
not really removed by immigration after going insane and trying
to get squatter's rights on a sold house that used
to belong to my other half sister married man an
when you put it like that, and she was escorted out,
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so I know she left. Things were calm for a bit,
and in the meantime I focused on my four year
old foster daughter. I think that the explanation that this
child is four years old also makes the Star Wars
stuff funny. But we're watching the cluone ones now.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We're literally learning about the foster daughter from just like
the most mere bits and snippets.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's like a sea line.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
The yeah, the story.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Absolutely, Let's call her Lily, Lily's mom is one of
my oldest friends. She gave birth in the US, but
Lily's father is not American and unfortunately passed away when
Lily was a baby. God my friend was asked to
leave the US to do her immigration process off country
since she has no one to claim her aside from
a minor child. This sadly means she probably won't be
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able to come into the US until Lily is eighteen.
Oh wow, that's so hard.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That is super awful.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Because of her home country's education system being really bad,
she asked me if I could take Lily. By this point,
I had already kicked Karen out, so I had an
extra room. I told her it was okay if it
was in Lily's best interest. Lily and I are tight
as thieves or and she's always seen me as her
crazy fun aunt took a bit, but three weeks ago
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Lily's guardianship was passed from the state to me. And
just in time for Halloween too.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Would you guys dress up as like daughter and mom?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I was thinking something from Star Wars probably, oh.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Like big ee Walk and small you walk Darth Vader
and Luke skywalk Darth Vader.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, yeah, there we go or U or C and
R two D two.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
No, it needs to be pariental, parental parental. No, pariental, periental.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Shout out to my window, mat Mice window. I'm dropping it.
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
We're skipping trigger treating this year due to the pandemic,
but Lily still wanted to dress up as a scyth.
I freaking call that. I'm so proud of this child,
I swear. My mom was incredibly happy to have a
foster grandchild, especially since Lily actually doesn't have any other grandparents,
so she sent her some fairly fancy Star Wars props. Ooh, obviously,
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we got her dressed up in her syth outfit and
had a mini photo shoot for Grandma, and my mom
posted the pictures on Facebook so Lily's mom could see
them easily. My family and friends went crazy with how
adorable Lily looks. She says she's not adorable, she's sith
and then Karen strikes back.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
No, no, no, Karen, No, we were literally like getting
into into the c plotes.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Now we're back into the a plot. Mom forgot or
decided not to block Karen, and when my half sister
saw Lily's picture. She had some of her best hits,
such as, my four year old looks fat, she's ugly
and clearly going to grow up to be a slut.
She looks like a word I can't say even in writing,
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but starts with an n Oh my god. Oh that's
just a handful, Oh my god. Block her. Block her.
She got called out and told kindly to return to
the darkness. But then she started to call my mother
at every hour to ask for money, to ask how
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to contact me, to tell her she was wasting money
on a kid that was not really her grandchild and
should give her the money for her kid. Karen is
not my mom's daughter. Your mom needs to block her
on everything. How is she calling your mom? But you
know what, you guys should block us because you should
listen to more full episodes of stories just like this
(37:18):
on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your favorite podcast app. Just
search up. Okay, storytime, do that, yike. There is a
little bit left to this story. But man, oh man,
I mean, man, own man.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Karen, what a devil? Put Karen in a box?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
In a box opper off to the Tartet Tartarus, The
Depths of Tartarus.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
First, we need to make sure the baby is delivered. Yeah,
and then we need to yeah take op and yeah
turn into ethereal spaghetti or whatever number Dakota has come
up with.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, we got we got number sixteen.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Number sixteen. We're up to eighteen now. Oh dang, but
it doesn't get worse as an umbers go up.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It's like it's just different.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
It's like he said, it's like a menu. Yeah, so
it's like the number eighteen might be different from yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Cause fifteen was where we started. Actually I think it
was fourteen.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I was fourteen, Yeah, fourteen, dude, Karen we we we
already knew before this part that Karen was a maniac.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, but she is a racist monster.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Big time, just big time.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Just get wipe her means necessary. Go go go, go
go go, that's all we gotta say.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Well, eventually my mom figured out how to block her.
Finally someone helped this poor woman, and Karen got to
me through a school friend. Oh my god, I would
be like sending out a Facebook blast and just be like,
everyone block my sister. Yes, she said, not one, not two,
but sixteen page long list of demands, or she'll sue
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me for what go ahead?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
One was getting rid of my foster daughter so I
could adopt her baby.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
She doesn't. She wouldn't even need to get rid of
the foster unadopted babies.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Another was an apartment I share with my cousins left
to us by our maternal grandmother. Five hundred K dollars,
my dog and my cat. Oh, and I need to
get her back into the US. And she's going to
sue you with those demands.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Wow, give me half a million dollars and your dog
and your cat. Yeah, and Fluffy and Sprinkles.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
There's still more. Most of it is completely delusional. I
sent a copy to my lawyer to try to pursue
a no contact order in the US. Can't do anything
in my home country, but I did ford another copy
to our relatives, including our eldest brother. He just said
to me he'll take care of it. For the record,
I am not taking Karen's get in, even if I
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didn't have Lily. Her ex was recently released and has
already caused problems for other people. Luckily, he's keeping away
from me, and to clear something up, Karen isn't penniless.
I divided with her and Mary one hundred and fifty
k inheritance in equal parts. She also got money from
her stepfather when he passed in our home country. She's
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actually well off. The only reason I never charged rent
or asked her for money was because I knew the
tuition price was going to be very high and didn't
want her to have to take a loan like I
did for a time.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
But I bet you ten million percent.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
She did not even say up for that.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
That's not on her radar whatsoever. But that is the
end of that story.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wow, dude, she got forty one freaking thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, that's it's insane. And she got stuff from her stepfather.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And so yeah, she got more than forty one thousand dollars.
And listen, I know only get child support. If she
really needed it, probably get child support. I knowed America
and all the things and the healthcare in the school
and everything. Absolutely, but there are people that do not
have forty one thousand dollars that was given to them.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and I have to look off of that.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yes, So, oh my god, the audacity to go to
all these people be like, oh, give me the plane
taken to give me this, and give me that.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You have money.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Dude, you were what what did you do with job?
What did you what did you do with it? Literally,
if you just even got a minimum wage job, you're.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Up minimum wage job. You live with your family members who.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Have all offered free, free healthcare and free health care. Literally,
she has the world made for it, yet she demands
to the point where she will get arrested. Yeah, demanding
people give it to me.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Crazy crazy crazy. Oh my gosh, wowee, wowee wowie.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Doesn't that story?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
But is that the There is another story.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I don't want to spend time with my mother in
law because she triggers my anxiety. Don't trigger me, Stop triggering,
stop it. So I have to say it first. I
love my mother in law, but we have we had
quite a fallout over the summer. My husband, male thirty five,
and me female thirty three live in Europe while my
mother in law lives in Asia. We have some I
don't know if I should call it cultural differences. As
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you say, By the way, it comes from Fluffy employment
six oh one And if you want to share your stories,
send them to our slash Okay story time. So later
that year, I went there for Christmas and for New
Year's which was pretty difficult for me. I wasn't used
to spending as much time with people I barely know
on a small space, but I put it on a
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brave face and I went through it. My husband and
I met shortly before the pandemic and then married during
it three years ago. Wasn't good this time, and I
met my family in person only three times. I didn't
want to disappoint anyone, but the lack of privacy was
taking a toll on me and my borderline personality disorder.
(42:51):
I went to therapy and I'm okay now as long
as I avoid triggers. Because of my borderline personality disorder,
I am quite afraid to meet new people, and I
am always afraid that I might lose control. My husband
knows this. The problem is it is difficult to explain
explain to him some of my reactions or why I
sometimes am running away from people important. We speak ninety
(43:14):
nine percent of the time of time his language. He
spends almost none. Oh, he speaks almost none of mine
and very little in my second language, which is German.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I could be really hard like from people I've talked
to who speak English as their second language, or like
have partners or something who only speak English. That, like,
the mental strain of always speaking in your second language
can be very difficult.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And also we've seen two thousands instances of people not
communicating even in their both sharing a native tongue. Yeah, okay,
so not being able to have that ooh goodness, gracious,
I'm quite good at his language, but I would consider
myself and not good enough to live in his country yet.
Ooh that's important. Is like a ninety day fiance type situation.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well, also it could be I think, wait, oh he's
not German, right, so germane language okay?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I mean like a lot of times people especially from Europe,
think that three English is not that good when it's
like pretty good, better than ours, yeah, and we're like, no,
it's that was pretty good. They're like, oh, no, I
don't speak English, and then they're like fluid.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, it's like better literacy than America, Like, well, okay.
The difference is also during my childhood, my father never
let people we didn't know spend time at our house,
let alone say the night. I'm also quite strict with
this rule. Only people that I personally know, and I'm
not afraid of are allowed to come to my home.
My husband knows this and respects this, and I as
I am accepting much more rules from his culture. So
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this one I am out of it about until the summer.
Mother in law wanted to see my husband at work.
He works at a famous music festival. Tell us, we're
gonna say Coachella, because why are you being so vague?
Come on and stop with the insert festival, insert sport,
insert niche.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Just to give it, even if you're lying to me,
put something in there.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, and just for like a fake name, come up anyways,
a fake country, fake country, fake fake Coachella.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
He's like, I'm from Genovia, Genovia.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
So she said she would come to Europe with my
brother in law. At first it was two weeks. I
canceled my plans with a friend to move my vacation
at work to take care of them. My husband is
always at this festival for two months in the summer.
My god and I stay at home alone for two weeks.
From two weeks it was three weeks, and that a person,
that person a is coming with them. The problem is
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my husband did not specify who this person is, and
he never asked if I'm okay with it. He only
informed me. At first, I thought it was person B
whom I personally said it's okay to stay at her house.
I was so wrong. It was mother in law's best
friends who inserted herself into the strip, and mother in
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law never asked me directly. I found out about this
months later, and boy, it gave me anxiety. It caused
me a lot of arguments with my husband, and I
was afraid to send them into a hotel as I
was afraid that mother in law would hate me. She
was already upset her friend could not go to a
family barbecue, which was for her and brother in law
to meet my family for the first time. I was
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also very anxious as I had to finish an article
and my master's thesis and had to work a few
days full time. During summer. We get a maximum of
fourteen days off haul man. Normally, I'm ragging on the
million days off at Europe gets, but opie schedule actually
sounds crazy. I'm not gonna lie lea oh Man. So
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I had to drive a car after ten years and
had some minor adjusting problems in the beginning, and a
friend let's call her Anna seventy four had some not
very nice comments about it. I can't describe everything that
would happened here, but in short, Anna got angry because
she couldn't use the bathroom sink for or in evening.
I had to repair it as I didn't have all
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the utensils and it was night, and she had the
audacity to slam the doors in my house as a guest.
She also got lost in a foreign city they went
as a trio had I had to work and mother
in law and brother in law waited for her in
the heat thirty six degrees celsius for two hours, which
is freakin' that's almost like one hundred deguese fair, that's
(47:24):
hok Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's almost a hundred. That's forty is about hundred?
Speaker 2 (47:26):
That is true?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, it's like ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Right y. Also, Sophia, what do you think about what's
happening here so far?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
I don't like it?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yep, yep, I agree.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I don't like it one bit, and I've I've absorbed
all of it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That's true. Ten percent reading comprehension. Then it was mother
in lass no, no, okay. As we were returning from
my grandma's in a neighboring country. I said twice, I
will be doing laundry because I don't have enough room
for dry laundry for four people and I am in
another country the next day and they are free. I
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also said if our neighbors have a problem with it,
I will talk to them. They all agreed. I live
in a house with a few neighbors, and you are
not allowed to be loud after ten ten thank you
after ten pm, and washing machines are quite loud here. Okay,
that's maybe a little bit ridiculous, but we'll see. So
(48:26):
I went to park the car, and as I was returning,
mother in law messaged me if they could do the laundry.
I repeated what I said earlier, hoping they understood. We
have a smart washing machine and can remote control it,
and I also get a push message when it's done.
I was already drained and tired as I was driving
a lot and also translating for them all day. On
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my way home, I received a message that the laundry
is done. You mean the laundry that's supposed to do
It wasn't supposed to be done. It's done. Come on.
That's when I lost control. Unlike the remote control washing machine,
which is very much within people's control. I came home,
slammed the door, and argued heavily and loudly over the
(49:09):
phone with my husband. Why did he ignore what I
said and let them do the laundry. My mother in
law then screamed at me.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Which probably also isn't good for the noise complaints.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
That is a great point in callback. Sophia is comprehendively.
I comprehended, and then even worse for the noise curfew.
Mother in law screamed at me, why am I screaming
at her son? And if I hate them, they would leave.
I felt very hurt, but apologized after two hours of
me kneeling in front of her my husband on the phone.
She said it was her fault as she never told
(49:42):
my husband about our agreement. WHOA She even apologized, Well, okay,
what has happened? So she's we went like all the
way up and then all the way back down.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Literally they like crashed out. He's like the kneeling on
the floor right on did She's like, I'm sorry, And
then I was like I forgive you and I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Sorry for how I to do. So all is good? Yeah,
it's perfect, I think so. But this whole situation me
losing control in front of Anna, who didn't know I
have a borderline personality disorder. In their culture and their culture,
mental issues are not talked about and so not really understood.
My mother in law knows about it, but I don't
know if she really understands. She also knows about my
(50:27):
massive childhood trauma that made me this way. I felt
extremely embarrassed and wanted to no. My mother in law
also said she doesn't think it would be okay to
have children with her son if I can't control myself.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Maybe if you didn't push all her buttons.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, anything would be fine. And Mama that that's not
your place. I'm sorry, No, that's listen. These are These
are two adults, and if they want to have a baby,
well you have It's it's not up to you to
have your royal decree of granniness. You might even not
(51:07):
get to beat either granny. You might be a gone
granny if you ask me. Anyways, that hurt the most.
I was really doing everything, but I was under immense
pressure and stress. After this incidents, I built a wall
around me and refused to spend a longer time with him.
I also don't message her as much as I used to,
just the necessary I feel. I felt very disrespected by
(51:27):
her and Anna. Although I should have sent them to
a hotel immediately, I was just too afraid she would
hate me. We said a new rule with my husband.
No one will stay over at our home for a
longer than a weekend, not even my family. And this
rule is also for our home. If we move to
his country, he has to ask me, and I also
have to ask him every time we want to have
(51:48):
someone come over to party or for the weekend. But
my word is final. If I hadn't known the person, well,
he doesn't even have to bother ask him.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Because you guys are comedic, we're talking.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
We were supposed to go to his country from February
twenty twenty five for three weeks. Now we're talking about
the future as of this recording. Who At first, we
were going to mother in law's house for two weeks.
Every time I thought about it, I felt extremely uncomfortable
and anxious to the point of a yakin. So I
said I'll book a hotel. My husband are really angry
and accused me of hating mother in law. Yeah, that's
(52:23):
not the case.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Oh, it's not the case.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
It's not the case.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh okay, I just needed the distance. Sophia hate the
mother in law, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
I just need distance, all right, Okay, all right, okay,
I need to adjust myself to the situation and rebuild
a normal relationship with her. That won't work for me
being thrown to her house for two weeks with anxiety
over the roof. Pun intended by the way. If you
want to hear more great puns, more great stories, guys,
go to Spotify search okay, storytime or or Apple Podcasts
(52:55):
wherever you listen to podcasts, and we have full episodes
with stories just like this. It's it's really amazing. It's
really the greatest thing.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
So we do it bread ain't that true?
Speaker 2 (53:06):
But we have a little bit left in the story,
so we got to stick around to see what happens there.
But I also feel, what are we what do we feel?
I feel like we've had actually kind of like a mix. Yes,
you know, it's not it's not a clear cut situation, no, because.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
It seems like, you know, they had the big blow
up fight with the mother in law and then she apologized,
and then we were like, oh, well, did the husband
you know, let her watch the laundry anyway? And then
we found out that he didn't know, and now he's
mad at her because she doesn't want to spend time
with his mother. It's a whole mess of things, a
whole mess. I think you just need to have a
conversation with your husband and say, hey, I've been like
(53:40):
you know, about my BPD and this has been like
creating a lot of anxiety in me to the point
where it's inhibiting my ability to kind of go about
my day to day. Yes, and hope that he understands that, Yeah,
I see if he doesn't nothing, I'm a good partner.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
I need time to process her as a new person
in my life, and as we couldn't meet that much before,
I need some neutral space for that. He doesn't understand that.
As a compromise, I said, I will stay for four
days at her house, specifically on the days she's working,
so I will meet her only in the evening. Then
I will travel parts of the country alone while my
husband will run his errands, and then he'll meet me halfway.
(54:22):
So am I the ahole for not? When he spending
time with my mother in law. Am I overthinking? Am
I too sensitive? Or is it okay to protect myself
first and then in an extended way everyone else? A
great question to end this off, Sophia, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I think it's always a good thing to protect yourself.
I mean, there is a thing as too sensitive, but
it usually comes from a kind of not genuine place,
whereas you are experiencing tremendous, tremendous amounts of anxiety that
are hurting you. And so I don't think that means
(55:00):
you're too sensitive. It just means that you need to,
you know, be gentle with yourself and don't let people
invade your space and you know, exacerbate that.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
I agree. I think like, especially when it's a relationship
with two people, everyone's always like, oh, is this unreasonable?
But really the question is is it first reasonable to
you and then is it reasonable to your partner? Yeah?
And you know what, sometimes there is a misalignment and
we could acknowledge and be like, Okay, this is what
(55:32):
I want and this is what you want. Hey, maybe
it doesn't align, could be compromised, could we do something?
But I do think in general, as long as you're
not like hurting anyone or doing something malicious. It is
I think generally like okay to just be like, hey,
this is this is what I want because this is
how this affects me. Yeah, personally, does it make you
(55:53):
a monster? No it does not. In fact, it means
you stand up for yourself and that is good. I agreed,
But we're gonna have to sit down because this episode
is freaking done. It's freaking over, freaking over. If you
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