01-22-25 FULL SHOW - Elephants Aren't People, And Citizenship In Court

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I'm here in beautiful sun Juan, Puerto Rico, and today
I am joined by the handsome and delightful Jesse Thomas
in for Anthony Rodriguez, who has been in for other
people this morning. It's a producer shake up, Jesse. We're
glad to have you.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
Thank you very much. I'm proud to be here.

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Proud to be there.

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That's right, I too, Yeah, I too, am proud to
be here enjoying the lovely weather.

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I'm trying, I'm trying not to.

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Be like rubbing it in, but it is an absolutely
delightful day in San Juan, Puerto Rico, broadcasting from American Financings.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
We're going to call it their side Hustle.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
The owner of American Financing, Damien Maldonado's from Puerto Rico
and after building his business in Colorado wanted to come
back and do something for Puerto Rico and open a
kitesurfing school and a hotel, and now they have this
incredible co working space to encourage entrepreneurship. And we're going
to talk a little bit about a program they have

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here in Puerto Rico to encourage entrepreneurship in with a
guest a little bit later. But in the meantime, why
don't I tell you what's on the blog, because, oh
my goodness, do we have a lot of stuff to
talk about today. Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog
dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline
this is one twenty two to twenty five blog Elephants

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Aren't People? And Citizenship in Court? Click on that and
here are the headlines you will find within Ho's an
office half of American, all the ships and cuipments and
say that's a press class.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Today on the blog.

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Yep, still in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico wants business scrolling.
It's weather Wednesday. No, elephants are not people? Birthright citizenship
is headed to the courts? Are we seeing the final
nail and the racist crift of DEI so what do
we do with mentally ill suspects? Douglas County Schools has
to fix some stuff. Big changes coming to Civic Center Park.

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Senate Dems are investigating one of their own, and now
the Kifness things about Jesus, scrolling NBC News attacks Pete Hegseth.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
The up ending of.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
The Colorado Labor Peace Act is a giveaway to the unions.
Dave Denver's federal gravy train may end soon. We've passed
peak beer in Colorado. That news for Mine's football, Afridijiac
honey is just full of viagra. Fit release them all.
LA fire victims decide to vote differently. Why did we

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leave the World Health Organization? Discarbonated water help with weight loss?
The healthiest bad food items by the left? Trump and
Ice note Jenna Bushager calls out W's faces at the inauguration.
Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
And we had a little bit of everything in this.
I did try to find some more stories that weren't

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just about what's happening with the Trump administration. Although stuff
is happening so flippin' fast that it's going to be
one of those situations where we're gonna have to sit
back later and take a breath because we don't have
time to take a breath now. But today we have
some interesting stuff out of Colorado that we've got to
talk about.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Of course, we've got Dave Frasier.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
From Fox thirty one coming at a twelve thirty, So
get your weather questions ready. You can text me any
time by just going to text five six six nine.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Oh, that's five sixty six.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Nine oh, and text us your weather questions or anything
else that you want to send on the tech.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
You can be nice though, that would be lovely.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Hey, Mandy, I'm just curious if you ever met radio
talk show host Leslie Marshall. I would love to see
you two in a debate. I think my girl Mandy
would mop the floor with her, and I want to
make sure because I'm thinking of Stephanie Miller. So let
me look and see what Leslie Marshall looks like one second,
just give me one moment please. Oh yeah, I know

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who she is, but I don't think i've ever met her.
I do go to industry seminars and conferences and stuff
like that, and that's when I meet most other talk
show hosts. I have not met her. Did Sunny Austin
get fired from the View?

Speaker 6 (04:39):
Now?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
What in our history together.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Listener would make you think that I would keep up
with who got fired from the view. Even in Shoudenfrauda,
I still wouldn't do it. I just don't care that much.
Hang on, I gotta turn my phone down when I'm
out of my studio. My professionalism just falls away, just
drops right to the floor. I bet Jesse Thomas's phone
never goes off her at Rocky's game.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
A couple things.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Out of Colorado that I want to talk about because
this story, this is one of those stories that I
want you guys to pay attention to what happens next,
because this is the difference between many people who are
on the right when it comes to political strategy and
people who are on the hard left and their political strategery.

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What am I talking about. I'm talking about elephants not
being people.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
And you're right now, you're looking at the radio and
you go, well, of course they're not dumb ass, They're
obviously elephants, which are animals.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Right, So here's what's.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Going on, And this is why I want to use
this as an example in politics, the sort of the
Machiavelian difference between organized people like these people and people
on the right who just want to get things done.
By the way, I'm about to compliment them on their
long term strategic thinking.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
So if you think this is just going to be indictment, I.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Actually admire this, this kind of I think it's ridiculous,
to be clear, their endgame ridiculous, but I admire the
way they go about this. So what happened here Colorado
Supreme Court was hearing a case that was brought by
the Washington, DC based Non Human Rights Project and they

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were bringing a lawsuit on behalf of five elephants at
the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo. They argued that the elephants were
being denied their right of habeas corpus, which would allow
a person to challenge their detention as unlawful. And they're
arguing that the elephants should have the right to challenge

(06:41):
their detentions as unlawful. And this is not just something
that's happened in California. They have filed these lawsuits all
over the country and Colorado was just the latest in
this operation. And here's why I want you to watch it,
not because I think they're going to be successful.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
I mean they would have to.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
They would have to have a completely different Supreme Court,
because if they ever do win a case, I can
guarantee you it is going to be sent up to
the Supreme Court for a final decision, and it would
have to be a much different court than the one
we've got now that would uphold the rights of elephants
to be seen as animals, because if it's elephants.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Where does it stop.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Do at some point do I have to give jinks
the right to vote on things like what we have
for dinner or where we're going to move, or do
I even get to have a pet? Or am I
supposed to release my big lazy Saint Bernard into the
wild where she would most assuredly starve to death sitting
on my porch waiting for me to feed her.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I mean, it's a very slippery slope. By the way.
The hotel where we are staying as Hotel Uno.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I should have said I put the link to both
the hotel and the vrbos. The vrbos are not on
the beach, but you guys, they're stunning and they're.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
A five minute walk from the beach.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
But if you want to come down here, Numero Uno
is a hotel designed for kite surfers.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
It's very comfortable and clean.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's not a lot of fancy amenities, but it's a
great hotel and it's right there on the beach.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
So it's very small, very small.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
So all of that is on the blog today at
Mandy's blog dot com. So one of the justices, after
declaring that she had great respect for elephants, which is lovely.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
She said, simply put, no Colorado.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Court, nor any other court in any other jurisdiction in
the United States, has ever recognized the legal personhood.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Of any non human species.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
So this is just another salvo by the Non Human
Rights Project. And this is where I want to bring
up the political strategory of this. They know they're going
to lose, they're going to lose over and over and
over again, but they're going to go back. They're going
to tweak their lawsuit every single time they get a decision.
They're going to pour through the decision and they're going

(09:01):
to find another way to go after a bite at
the apple, and they're relentless.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
They never stop.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
It's very similar to the way that teachers' unions are relentless.
If you try to institute significant reforms, they are relentless.
It's why when Douglas County tried to create a vout
your system, it was absurd because the teachers' unions brought
all of their resources to bear on Douglas County, and
Douglas County doesn't.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Have those kind of resources to fight back endlessly.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Mayor Johnston will house Jinx if she becomes homeless, says
this Texter. I would never do that. I would never
do that, Mandy. Earlier, I found myself with a fragment
of a tune stuck in my head that I can
only identify by singing it through until I got to
the identifying point, which turned out to be Mandy Connell's
Saving the Day. My only hope is that it replaces

(09:54):
the one that shows up sometimes regarding cars.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Okay, good, we'll do that.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
We'll do that.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
What I'm trying to I was trying to think of it,
and there's got to be stuff on the right that
this sort of incrementalist approach has been tried before. I
feel like there should be that in abortion, but I
don't know if there's been a successful creep on abortion.
I feel like every time abortion is restricted in most places,

(10:20):
there's a pushback ginormously, and those restrictions are inevitably loosened.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
So we shall see. We shall see now.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Initially about this elephant story, District Court Judge Eric Bentley
acknowledged courts in other countries have ruled that animals are
entitled to certain rights and that confinement may be detrimental
to the five elephants' health, but for better or for worse.
He concluded the United States founding documents centered human rights,

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and no court had recognized the personhood of other animals.
It is my understanding that elephants live a lot longer intivity.
And by the way, I want to be clear, I
want animals in a zoo to have as much roaming
room as they can possibly have. I'm not a huge
fan of zoos that have animals in a very small space.

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It's one of the reasons I love the Wildlife Sanctuary
because it's just wide open and the Wildlife Sanctuary in
Kingsburg is not about your ability to view the animals.
It is about the animal's ability to live in an
environment that is very.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Close to their natural state.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
So don't think that I am defending you mistreating animals
in any way, shape or form. But that being said,
I understand that elephants live far longer in captivity than
they do in the wild.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I know that big cats do.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
So the notion confinement may be detrimental to the five
elephants' health, is it? We don't know that, and I
think that's part of the problem. I mean, I kind
of joke about putting my dog out into.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
The wild, But at what point?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
At what point do we recognize that we have indeed
domesticated these animals to a certain extent, and nobody's going
to keep an elephant as a pet, right, I mean,
how big a.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
House do you have to have?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You need to be a Kardashian to have an elephant
as a pet. But these are animals that are well
acquainted with human beings.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
They're well acquainted with their handlers.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
This is just one of those things where, you know, what,
more power to you guys who were trying to fight
this fight. But it's interesting to me that they don't
give up. They never give up. They're gonna have this
in front of every single court. I wouldn't be surprised
if they came back to Colorado at some point with
a new similar argument.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
We shall see, We shall see.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Mandy, my wife and I went to the Lincoln Club
inauguration ball on Monday night. It was absolutely fantastic that
lots of great people had a great meal and even
danced a bit. Thank you for introducing me to that group.
I'm glad you did, Mandy. How does this group have standing?
Seems the lawsuit would have to be brought by the
five Elephants. That was part of the issue as well.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
So that was it. Let's just say they didn't just
lose the case a little.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
She lost the case a lot, right, I mean a lot.
So listen to this about the Non Human Rights Project.
The Non Human Rights Project received support from a range
of outside participants, including academics and lawyers based in the
United Kingdom, leaders in the LGBTQ rights movement, at a

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retired member of South Africa's highest court. Some of the
briefs pointed out habeas proceedings have been used to free
enslaved persons, women under their husband's control, and others who
had previously limited legal rights. But see the thing that
all of those people had in common is that they're human.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Seems like kind of a big deal, you know, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I asked the elephants in the zoo if they felt
like they were in captivity, and they said, we love
living there. I don't know why I was not called
to the witness stand on this. Me too, Texter, Me too.
Animals do not have human rights, but humans have the
responsibility to respect them as to.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
The life that they possess.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
No torture, no abuse, especially as applies to those we
have domesticated. In Hawaii, they have a word that describes
the relationship between the human and the animal that is
their pet.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
They don't they don't call them owners and pets.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I don't remember the word, but it's a lovely word
that means that, essentially, you've been entrusted as the caretaker
for this part of this you know, pet, part of
your family. And I like that because it implies the
responsibility for pet ownership.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
It really does, Mandy. What is the KOA trip to
Puerto Rico after Japan? You know what?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Not a bad idea, not about aside from the fact
that they cannot keep the power on down here, which
is a huge, huge issue. Puerto Rico is there's a
lot of opportunity here. That's the best way to put it,
A lot of opportunity. Anyway, we're going to not spend

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a lot more time on elephants having rights, but I
just want you to watch what happens, because this is
not the last time this lawsuit's going to be brought,
and at some point they're going to find a judge
wacky enough that will accept their argument. And when that happens, well,
you know, all hell breaks loose. Yeah, in Tanzania, elephants

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are food. Nowhere are people food that from the daughter party.
Jk oh, thank you, very nice, nicely done. Now we've
got elephants in the studio to go with the dead
horse that I've been beating about the Colorado GOP leadership.
When we get back, we've got Whether Wednesday coming up
with Dave Frasier.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
But I want you guys to go. We've got such
good stuff on.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
The blog today, I mean really good stuff on the
blog today, including a very interesting I was gonna, uh,
I was just gonna watch it this morning and not
share it on the blog because I wasn't sure how
well this kid did.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
But this kid is out in La.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I mean there's still fires burning behind them as he's
interviewing people, and he's asking these really pointed questions of
people who've just lost everything, right, They've just lost everything
in these fires. And already people in California are like, yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna think differently before I cast my ballot.
So yeah, yeah, Mandy, the word is ca who. Thank you,

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ca who. That's the relationship between pet owner and pet
And they don't.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Look at it that way. They really don't.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
A couple of things that are going to be happening
in the Colorado legislature that I'm going to talk.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
About a little bit later.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
One of these things, you guys, it is not it
is not being stated enough.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I mean maybe it is where you're saying.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
But the changes that the Colorado Democrats are trying to
make to labor law in Colorado is incredibly, incredibly significant,
and if they are successful, it changes the labor landscape
in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I mean in a big way.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Even if you're pro union, even if you think unions
are a great idea, and some unions, I got to
tell you, some unions help somebody get a trade. They
set up a program where you can learn a trade,
learn a craft, and end up making really good money.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I have no problem with that.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I really don't like public sector unions at all, not
even a little bit. But that being said, we've had
a nice sort of balance in Colorado for eighty years.
And you have to wonder, and I don't wonder. As
a matter of fact, I already know the answer to this.
You have to think to yourself, who was clamoring for this,
what workers were clamoring for changes? Right now, what we're

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watching now in Colorado is the end.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Result of the.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Republican National Convention inviting a union boss to come speak
because the Democrats realize they lost their base in this
last election cycle and they're trying.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
To fix it.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
And I love for people to really pay attention to this,
but I'm getting to the point now where I finally
recognize the vast majority of people in Colorado just don't care.
They've given up. They're just willing to just go along
until they can leave. That is what I'm seeing from
a lot of people on the right. And I'm telling
you right now now is not the time the tide
is changing. It's shifting in a way that is I'm

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very helpful about maybe not as dramatically in Colorado as
I like, but there are some missteps being made, and
I think this would be one of those things that
would alienate a lot of young business owners who look
at this as you're already saddling me with these incredible
minimum wage demands, and now you're going to make it

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easier for my workforce to unionize.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
And I don't care who you are and how you
do business.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Nobody wants to deal with the union when they can
deal with employees directly.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Why do you want a middleman? That's the thing. And
I can hear player's like three people.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Screaming at the radio because they need to representation.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
To fight the man. Yeah, no, Mandy. The next step
is to give elephants the right to vote.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
At least they can hold the pen in their little trunk,
you know, you put down a giant ballot in front
of them, or they could just stomp their foot in
ink and then stomp their foot.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
On the ballot. Perfect sense, Perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
When we get back, Dave Fraser, Fox thirty one joins us,
text you aren't weather questions to five six six nine.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Oh keep it real right here on KOA.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
What we do every single week with Fox thirty one
chief meteorologist Dave Frey.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Here, Dave, good to hear.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
From you, my friend from beautiful sunny San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
How you doing up there? Freezing? Or took us off?

Speaker 7 (20:09):
I heard you at the top of the newscasting. I
don't want to rub it in.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yes you do, No, I really don't.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I feel a little guilty coming down here right now
as the big arctic blast hit over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
But it looks like things are a little.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
More back to normal and it's just cold, although I
can tell it's been cold because one of the first
questions I have on the text line is Mandy, what
is Dave's outlook for early spring? Can we expect a
snowy March?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
So people are done after this past weekend?

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, I mean this was a prolonged period of cold
that moved in Friday night. We calculated it at ninety hours,
which is three and three quarter days under freezing. However,
to get on a record list for consecutive days under freezing,
we would have beat it and doubled that. Eight days
is the lowest on the list of days we're up

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below freezing so it was a prolonged cold period. There
was a silver lining. Each day Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
we picked up measurable snow, not a lot. Each day
was around an inch. I think Saturday was the most
at one point seven. So for the month of January
rctually more than nine inches, we've surpassed the average of
six point six. As far as the outlook to your

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listener's question, I was looking at long range models I
always do before this phone call, and it's very typical.
The long range models show above normal temperatures and below
normal precipitation. But of course it showed that for January,
and we're ahead brand January for moisture, and we are
below normal by about eight degrees. Even though we have
had a day you may.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Not remember it.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
It was a little bout a week ago that we
were at sixty one. But the long range models, again,
they don't paint the picture of day to day, and
sometimes they're dead on and sometimes they're not. So they're
not terribly reliable, but they can give you kind of
an old reviewable what point might be coming.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
How do we do in snowpackwise?

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Overall fantastic, The San Juans, the Southwest River, the river
basins in the southwest are running at about seventy seventy
two percent. They're pulling the average for the state down.
But everything in the central Mountains, the northern Mountains, the
southeast corner, and here along the Front Range especially is

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doing the best at one hundred and two percent. So
I think the state AVUE is around ninety one ninety two.
But the biggest basin that we always concern ourselves with
is the Front Range, the South Flat, and it's doing really,
really well, and obviously that number is probably going to
go up given the snow we picked up over the
last few days.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Right, this question is kind of interesting. How did this
texture ask? How do I calculate the feels like temperature?
Isn't this the temperature with the dee point factored in
there to tell us what it feels like?

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Is that how you do it?

Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, there's actually a chart. If you google wind chill
chart you can see it's already laid out at the
mathematical equation. Basically, it takes into consideration the air temperature
and wind speed and what it feels like on exposed skin.
So obviously the colder, the temperature the stronger the wind
that feels like temperature is much much lower. And then

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of course there are thresholds for how long exposed skin
can be exposed before it freezes, so you know, thirty
minutes or ten minutes. They did recalculate the wind Child
chart years ago because it was too cold, so they
wanted a little more realistic and this year, I'm glad
your listener brought this up. This year, we have a

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new product. The National Weather Service got rid of wind
chill advisories and other things, so what we have now
is cold weather advisories and extreme cold warnings, and they're
based on temperature. Whether it's a windshield temperature or an
air temperature doesn't matter. So we had this the last
couple of days where the mountains in southeast Colorado were

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an extreme cold warning because the temperatures were calculated to
be from twenty five degrees or lower minus twenty five
or law where an advisory is minus fifteen to minus
twenty five, and that's what Denver had, although we were
close to the threshold a few times with wind chills
down to our temperatures down. For instance, Monday night, the

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temperature got down to fourteen below, So you're right there
at the threshold. So those are new terms that we're
using this year, and you'll hear about in the coming winters.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
It does seem like is that just because things get
more refined, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's like, I mean, I remember when I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
And the guy stood in front of the felt board
with the sunshine and he'd smack it up there and
then put cloud over it.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
So is it just because the technology is allowing you
guys to get more specific?

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Yes, yeah, I mean obviously, Yeah, we can be a
little more detailed. We can be a little more you know,
we can create fresh that are a little more reasonable, practical, understandable.
For instance, the you know, growing up, we had the
tornado scale, the the you know, the Fajita scale. Uh,
and then it changed to now call the enhanced GTA scale.
And what they did is they went back and they

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looked at what was, you know, an F zero and
F one and F two, and they enhanced those numbers
to an EF one and e F two and e
F three as it relates to the speed and the
damage caused by tornadoes, and they recalculated the speed so
the speed's kind of changed a little bit. The window
of what what is inn e F one, what is
an e F two? And what should we expect for damage?

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And so you know, those scales were built back, you know,
a long time ago, and they've been refined, if you will,
in current times. So I have to ask you, you're
you know you're from Florida. The cold, the snow, New Orleans,
eight inches of snow, snow covering the beach in DestinE,
snow down to Tampa. Can you remember time growing up.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Back in the early seventies, we had a measure will
snowfall in the town in North Florida that I lived in.
It didn't really stick to the roads, but it stuck
to like windshields and stuff like that, and it was
it was such fat, like fat wet snow, you.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Know, you know what I mean. But that was really it.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I actually have a couple of questions on the on
the text line right now.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Is that a sign of global warming?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
If not?

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Why not? If yes?

Speaker 7 (26:24):
How so the answer to that is yet, you know,
the better term, I think, the safer term, so you
don't get into argument, is climate change. Yet it is
a thing, right, and yes, what it can do is
it can? Cause you know, rain is rained, snow and snow.
We still left the forecast, and we still have to
talk about how much, how deep, how cold, how warm.

(26:46):
Those parameters are still there. But what you see is
wild swings and things like that that you wouldn't normally expect.
For instance, Anchorage, Alaska, I think this month has had
three point eight inches of snow. New Orleans got eight.
It was wrecked. Yeah, so I'm not talking about an
upside down world. I'm talking about things shifting and changing
and maybe being a little more exaggerated. So hurricanes, do

(27:09):
we get more or less of them? It's going to
depend on the season, but sometimes maybe the more of
them could be more powerful, more frequent, more damaging, you know,
and snow going all the way to the deep South
makes to scratch your head and wonder, you know, should
I have winter? Dear, if I live in Tampa or destined,
should I have a shovel? You know, those are questions that, yes,

(27:30):
as the climate changes, we need to be conscious of
that what we think of in an area may not
always be that way.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
And well, in all honesty, in the South, no, they
will not get winter closer shovels because they're not leaving
their house if there's snow on the ground outside. I'm
just letting you know that. So it doesn't matter, Mandy,
Isn't it true? Windshill only has an effect on living skin.
That's kind of creepy way that's written.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
But yeah, it was calculated as it feels like temperature
the skin. Yeah, it doesn't have a bearing on your
car or your automobile or anything like that. The cold
is what can cause problems, you know, people at this
time of the year when we get into these deep freezes.
You know the battery. You'll find out quickly that your
battery was maybe towards the end of its life cycle

(28:17):
because it will struggle in the cold. But yet, the
reality is the wind chill is just for us, Dave.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'll leave you with this from a text or Mandy,
feels like only applies to weather. I got pulled over
by CSP He said I was going ninety one. I said,
it feels like seventy five. Put them bump chip.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
There you go, David, Pleasure.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
As always, I'll talk to you next week when I
join you.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
Back in the cold, all right, enjoying your time on
the beach, and by the way, they got a rip
current advisory out. I would not suggest getting into the
ocean today.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
I already did today, but I didn't go out very
far and it is quite the rip current today. So
I did go out, but only up, only up far
enough where I felt like I wasn't gonna get swept away.
All right, Dave, we will talk to you later and
we will be back right after this on KOA.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Jesse.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
You know, many of you don't know Jesse Thomas, who's
in for a rod right now. He does my favorite
segment on the Rockies pregame show. And Jesse, are you
gearing up for another big, you know, edition of the
Pioneers of the Game segment that you do?

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I am. We are going through all the gear as
we speak.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
I am making my travel accommodations and I will have
some surprises just for you during that segment this summer.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
So it's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Can't wait, yep, can't I not wait? Sorry, I'm just
trying to shoot there.

Speaker 8 (29:36):
Tell everybody that our first broadcast will be in the
twenty first of February, so it's not that long.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
When do you pictures and Catchers report.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
They will be down there on those sixteenth I believe.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Oh god, it's right around the corner.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yeah, it won't be long.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
And Hope springs a journal to Rockies fans at the
beginning of the reason and see what happens this year.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
You know, I just got this.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Somebody asked me earlier because I I said in the
first segment of the show, look, I'm feeling hopeful right
now that things in the country are turning around. And
somebody hit the text line and it's gone now so
I can't read it. But the gist of the text was,
Mandy everywhere in the country except Colorado moved to the right,
and you're what are you hopeful about in Colorado. I'm

(30:21):
hopeful because a lot of people that traditionally have been staunch,
reliable Democratic voters have had experiences downtown. And I'm going
to use the guest I had on a few weeks
ago who had to leave the Highlands because of crime
and everything else, and I'm going to use him as
an example.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
People are starting to say, wait a minute, this is
not okay.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
This is not okay, and there's opportunity in Colorado for people.
And I really do believe it's going to have to
be an independent. I don't think it's going to be
a republican anytime soon. But we need strong independence who
can make the case for free markets, who can make
the case for for, you know, government staying out of.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
The social issues.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
And I realize that's unpopular for pro life conservatives, but
I don't mean to be pessimistic about the pro life movement,
but right now it's just non existent in any significant
number in Colorado to make any sort of difference.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
And that's sad, but I really believe that.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So you get somebody who can talk about free market solutions,
you can talk about lower taxes, smaller government in a
compelling way, about not doing too much with government. I
think people in Colorado might listen. Now I could be
Pollyanna here.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
But combined with the federal assault on the kind of
idiocy that we've seen here, we're gonna have elected leaders
that are going to be backed into very uncomfortable corners
that they're going to have to get out of. Mayor
Mike Johnston went from I'll go to jail to stop
it from happening to oh, here's the we're we're going
to work with the Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Here's what we're We're we're going to work with about
certain pigs.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
The Trump administration is completely rooting out DEI. They are
the telling sanctuary cities and states like Denver in Colorado
that they're not going to get federal funds unless they
do the right thing and cooperate. And that's the power
of the purse strings. You know that that sort of
coercion has been around since the federal government started dishing

(32:21):
out money to states. So I don't know, maybe I'm
just silly, maybe I'm just you know, but I talk
to a lot of people lately.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
I'm talking to business owners.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm talking to you know, various industries and are people
are feeling upbeat about the future. So I'm just going
to go I am just going to go with that now.
When we get back down here in Puerto Rico where
I am this week, they have really aggressively they're trying
to woo business owners and help start up businesses and
make Puerto Rico a hub of entrepreneurship. And I've got

(32:54):
a guy who is working in that field. His name
is Sebastian Vilan, and he the doll. Excuse me, Sebastian Vidal,
and he's with a group called Parallel eighteen, an innovation hub,
and we're going to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
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Speaker 3 (33:08):
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Speaker 4 (33:46):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Connell, and of course Jesse Thomas is in for Anthony Rodriguez,
who was in for someone else. That being said, I'm
broadcasting from beautiful Content Creator Studios. That our friends from
American Financing, after building their company in Colorado, they wanted
to bring a little love to Puerto Rico as well.
We'll talk more about that in a moment. But I've
got a man with me right now. His name is

(34:11):
Sebastian Vidal. And he is a tech entrepreneur who actually
founded the first tech incubator here in Puerto Rico, and
that speaks to a larger part of one of the
things that American financing is doing here in Puerto Rico,
which is Damien's home that frees from Puerto Rico. And
I feel like Sebastian and I kind of want to

(34:31):
start at where you're going. I feel like there's so
much opportunity right now in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Am I seeing that correctly?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yeah? Yeah, no, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 9 (34:41):
I'm actually right after I founded the technology incubator and
I join a climate technology startup, Cold Raincoat. And the
reason why I did that is because I think that
the opportunity that Portogo has in terms of ways located,
the richness of the culture that the island has, and

(35:04):
how the significant growth that has had in the last
five to six years make this hub, I would say,
a very interesting hub for investors, for INNOVATD companies, and
for people to come now. I have seen, you know,
many people that are here actually have seen many impactful

(35:27):
things happen in Puerto Rico, from you know, a governor
that had to quit to a hurricane that was one
of the most devastated hurricanes in history, to you know,
earthquakes and many other things that happened in the last
one and the deepest financial crisis in twenty fifteen. So

(35:49):
despite all of that, I think Puerto Ricans have been
able to rise, to be resilient, but also to attract
talent to the island, investment, innovation, and also individuals know
that are making.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
A dent. I think in Portougal. I think it's super
interesting and I've.

Speaker 9 (36:10):
Never seen that before, and I've worked in many places
and I am not from Puerto Rico regionally, but that's
why I decide to stay.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
You made a point at the very beginning of that
answer where you were talking about why this is such
an attractive hub because of location, Because is that partially
because you have one foot in the United States and
then you also have deep connections to Central and South America?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
So is that part of the attractiveness.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
I one hundred percent think that is that way.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
As I mean, the reason why I move here is
because you can find some elements of the US infrastructure,
but you have a deep Latin American culture, right and
that uh that the fact that you can.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Switch from one to another easily.

Speaker 9 (36:57):
For me is you feel like home, but at the
same time, you know that you are two hours away
from a bigger city in the US and it's a
domestic flight. So so I think that that it's definitely
a plus. And the all the entrepreneurs that used to
work with in Part eighteen, the technology accelerator that came

(37:19):
from the South, that was a huge advantage, and everyone
was saying the same thing. It's like, oh, I can
feel a lot the American colture has an identity, is
strong identity, but also I have a sense that I
can do business here that you know, it's it's a
US at the at the end of the day, they
all incorporated in the US, so they have both What.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Kind of culture classes do you deal with that?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Because we were talking before the we started this interview,
and you were making the point that that culturally there
are stumbling blocks to business and no techies speak the
same tech language. If they're not speaking the same business language,
then it's hard to make those.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Things work exactly.

Speaker 9 (37:59):
And this comes back to, you know, a decade ago,
venture capital or early stage technology investors didn't do much
investments outside the US. They don't necessarily do much right
now but way less. And the reason is because the

(38:21):
both didn't know what everyone what the other one was doing. Right,
So the technology investor in the US didn't know really
what was the landscape in Latin America. If you know
how many engineers do they have, what the market is like,
how desaggregated is or and from Latin American entrepreneur, which

(38:41):
is the point that we were.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
Just talking about. It's like I didn't they didn't know how.

Speaker 9 (38:47):
To approach them, how to do business with them? What
are the terms that they used to do or to
close with these investments, and uh, we have moved forward
from that for sure, but there's a lot of nuances
and very practical stuff that there sometimes are are or
seen by the entrepreneurs saying.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
One of the things was like what.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
We were this causing is like maybe Latin Americans want
to have more time and to spend more time in
cafesitos and lunches to get a deal done and the
US investor just get just want to.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Like take care of it today. So there's a different
kind of relationship build.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Absolutely, Yeah, that's that's.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Fascinating to me and I personally believe, and we've talked
about this on the show for a long time.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I took a trip to.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Costa Rica and it was very illuminating because China is
very involved in building giant things for Costa Rica for free,
mind you, And I'm like, that seems a little shady
to me as our geopolitical foe. But I've always thought
that we could solve a lot of problems in the
United States by encouraging the kind of entrepreneurship you're talking
about Puerto Rico, but also encouraging it in Central and

(39:55):
South America and helping people build their economies. And I
want to kind of start with that in Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico has some infrastructure problems. Maria really hurt some
of their big infrastructure. How is that when you're talking
to people about investing in Puerto Rico, are coming in and
being a part of the of the tech community here,
do you have stumbling blocks with that kind of perception?

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Yes, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 9 (40:18):
I think one of the the I would say challenges
that most entrepreneurs, I mean technology entrepreneurs in general. It's
a kind of a It's an interesting read because if
you have Internet and you know, cold beer on Fridays
like and pizza. You're fine, right, But at the same time,

(40:40):
if you if that that Wi Fi is not reliable
because of electricity, well that's a huge pain point for
something very simple, right, So it is definitely connected, and
I have seen people, you know, get frustrated about it,
and some of them you know, even considered to come
back to build something outside.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Not many, but it's definitely an issue. One. One thing
that I and.

Speaker 9 (41:07):
A lot of people that I work with a few
years ago would tried to do, and I think Puerto
Rico needs a lot more, is just to innovate in
those sectors right that we are having issues with. Right,
So electricity is one, and and I think there's tons
of things to do in terms of solar energy and

(41:27):
renewable all sorts of renewables.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
But also water is an issue.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
And also you know, like climate here is it's a
it's kind of a it's so interesting that we can
take We could definitely take some positive advantages out of
that as well, and.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
In general education as well health.

Speaker 9 (41:48):
Right, Puerto Rico is it's isolated because of you know,
geographic reasons, but that means that the products are more expensive, right,
so we need to figure out a way to produce
our own and we haven't yes yet, So I can
go on and on on the opportunities that are No,
that's that's.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Kind of how I feel.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
That's honestly how I see it.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I mean, some people can look and see all the problems,
but you look at it and you see it's like
it feels like they're ready to take the next step,
and there's no reason why they shouldn't other than I know,
politics in every area is you know, a big I
think part of the problem that I'm a small government person.
So somebody just asked this question, how are crime and
corruption in Puerto Rico? I said this yesterday. I feel

(42:31):
very safe here, and that's my perception. I could be
totally wrong, but we've been to a festival, we've been
to you know, we've been going some places, and I
do feel very safe on this iseline.

Speaker 9 (42:42):
Yes, And I would love to give you some facts,
but I have tried to find but it's difficult to
find some safety facts. My perception is the same as yours. Yeah,
I've never had an issue in Puerto Rico. I have
walk all around with my kids and you know, not
made any not. The streets are without many lights or anything,

(43:03):
and nothing has happened to me in many different neighbors
with neighborhoods in San Juana, in Porto.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
Rico at all.

Speaker 9 (43:09):
I have drove the island hundreds of times, I think,
in these last ten years, and nothing has happened. And
I think that stands out of the region itself, because
I can assure you that here you can grab a car,
rent a car and just drive around, stay whatever you
want and nothing will happen.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
That's safety for sure.

Speaker 9 (43:30):
I don't know if you can say the same thing
from our neighbors right.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Right without that side. I had an article I didn't
put it on the blog today. I'll probably put it
on amor there that specifically talks about the crime in
the Caribbean has gone up traumatically in some areas, and
I looked for Puerto Rico. I was kind of hoping
you can answer that question, because I looked at this
morning and couldn't find any fast sort of data that
I can't walk into. But even when you follow the

(43:54):
news here, it's it's like if you follow the news
in Denver and use that to determine whether or not
Denver was say if you would never go to Denver again,
because the news is like one scary thing after another
and I have not seen that here. So whether or
not they're just not reporting it, it does it feels
very safe here. What are some of the companies that
you would tell somebody, hey, keep an eye on this

(44:15):
company in Puerto Rico because they're they're working on some
stuff that this could be really innovative. I mean maybe
the company you're with is at the top of that list.

Speaker 9 (44:24):
Yeah, But to be honest, our company has a couple of.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Highlights that are.

Speaker 9 (44:33):
Different because our unique is probably the you know, Raincoat
is the company that I work for.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
It's the only company I've raised significant entor.

Speaker 9 (44:41):
Capital from elit top top investors from the world like
soft Blank is one of them, and Anthemis Group and
two Sigma like really renown global investors.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
So that's one thing.

Speaker 9 (44:56):
But the most important thing is that we're solving a
real issue in the climate space.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
So what are you solving?

Speaker 6 (45:01):
So the company was.

Speaker 9 (45:02):
Built out of the Hurricane Maria, so right after the hurricane.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Oh, the hurricane Hurricane Maria. I'm sorry, your accent got
me on that one. I wasn't quite sure what you
were saying, right, I'm up to smeetter Hurricane Maria.

Speaker 9 (45:13):
Okay, Curcy. So the right after the hurricane, there was.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Many people didn't have access or it took a lot of.

Speaker 9 (45:25):
Time for them to receive their money from the insurance.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Companies, right.

Speaker 9 (45:30):
And the reason why that happened is because you have
the industry is a traditional industry and it's used to
work with one event or maybe tops you know, five
to ten events.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Right.

Speaker 9 (45:41):
So you go there, you check if there's a loss,
you know, your car, your house, whatever, you come back,
you do an analysis, and you pay when you have
a million people with that loss or the the you know,
the engine started to overheat. Right, So traditional insurance and
then with a situation it's like we cannot handle this

(46:02):
and there is a result.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
They take super long to pay, right.

Speaker 9 (46:06):
So you can see articles in bigger newspapers in the
US saying that you know, it took them two years,
so three years to pay back, right, Yeah, okay, So
that's the issue. What we do and the solution that
we found is that we take a climate parameter, in

(46:27):
this case, the wind speed, and we define that parameter
as the trigger of the insurance. So we analyze climate
data on in this case, wind speed, and if it
goes above a certain limit, it triggers the policy and
you get paid in twenty four hours in your bank.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Account, even though you haven't demonstrated a loss at that point,
even if you don't have any loss.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
So here's the here's the guy this game.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
It's like, wait a minute, this sounds like a bad
deal for the insurance companies so far.

Speaker 9 (47:00):
Wait, well, I mean it is, but it's not attached
to property, so you're not you're not financing your house. Basically,
you're not going to get fifty thousand dollars. This is
a financial is immediate financial relief.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (47:15):
So it's like we are like FEMA before FEMA, right,
so FIA than FEMA. So FEMA come in exactly, they
came in at you know, a month, maybe two months,
and they pay an initial amount it could be like
five hundred dollars, two thousand dollars. Maybe we come in
at twenty four hours after right, And it's an insurance,

(47:36):
so so you you basically pay for it or subsidize it.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
I mean, I'm thinking about what's happening in California. Right now.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
And you know there's a lot of people in California
that are going to be in the same to your
weight that you're talking about right now. So what is
the incentive for the insurance companies to do that. That's
I'm looking at it from the other side. Why do
they want to do this?

Speaker 6 (47:55):
It's another product, just okay, so that per product. So
it's like you can still.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
Give or Wildfire's is a little bit difficult now to
sell insurance, but let's say you can. You can still
sell wildfire's insurance in in the US. You will attach
this insurance and it's called parametric insurance. That's the concept
in the industry as a as an additional product for
you to get financial resilience right after the here immediately

(48:23):
made a plane ticket, if you need groceries right, uh,
you need to fix your yard whatever.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
Uh. That is the thing that is products design.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
It almost sounds like, for lack of a better way
to explain it, those health insurance policies that cover all
your incidentals.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Like a flack. Essentially, it's gonna cover all your incidentals.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
It's not necessarily going to cover your full property, but
it's gonna let you bridge that gap until the rest
of that money comes forward.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Yes, I think that's a genius business interruption as well.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, that would be you pay.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Is there an insurance issue down here because of Maria?

Speaker 9 (48:59):
I wouldn't say that is an issue today, but the
prices are going up for sure.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (49:06):
Right, So I think that's the biggest issue, right becoming unaffordable, right, yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
But the opportunity is huge and not in America and
in the US. We're working in both places because there's
a lot.

Speaker 9 (49:19):
Of regions that are becoming unensurable, right right, So right
now in California, it's gonna Yeah, I don't know if
they're going to keep selling it.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
No, but let's see.

Speaker 9 (49:29):
But then you have you have flowed, which is you know,
in Europe, it's very common and frequent. So there's regions
that are becoming unensurables. But our product is not attached
to a property, so they can still sell it.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Got it, got it.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
A lot of people are asking questions on our text
line this one one. Are the best months to visit
Puerto Rico? I would assume that this month has got
to be at the top of the.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
List because this is pretty nice down here right now.
I mean it is lovely down here right now.

Speaker 9 (49:57):
I mean yeah, for me all year year round, this
is very nice because the.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Temperature goes down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, just so it's really.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
It's seventy four at night. I just get a sweater
out there. When I left, it was like minus ten.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Sebastian, so this is definitely an improvement. I'm speaking with
Sebastian Vidal.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
He is an innovation hub tech guy trying to bring
more business to Puerto Rico and help tech entrepreneurs create
things in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
What would you say? What is your pitch? If someone
is listening right now.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
In the Denver metro area, and maybe they already work
in tech, but they have an idea, like they want
to do something on their own, what would you say
to them about moving down here and starting over in
a new place.

Speaker 9 (50:48):
I think there's three things that are that stand out
and I think are important for entrepreneurs trying to build something,
even from scratch or already have something. The first one
is Puerto Rico is a small place, right people, So
if you spend a few months here, you will get
to know.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
You know everybody about the you know everybody, and.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Everybody's super friendly. That's That's another thing.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I would say we've had the most pleasant experiences, whether
it's waitresses or whether it's the people at the hotel
or just just very pleasant exchanges with people.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
It's it's it's a nice place to be.

Speaker 9 (51:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I love it. Me and my
family we love here. Just an example of that closeness
or connection, like the first night that we came to
Puerto Rico, we went out to have some drinks with
my wife whatever, and we went to a local you
guess say market that is here called La Blacita, and

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we went there and we met the Secretary of Economy
and the secretary they were all there. It's having fun
and we were having a meeting the day before. It's like, oh,
this is is going to be like this Yeah, very
very close. So connections and network are very relevant and
you can have that in a in a very close degree.
The second one, there is a lot of programs that

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support entrepreneurs genuinely. Paralating is one of them, which you know,
aims to attract talent from all over the world, including
the US, including a Latin America and South America. They
give funding, and the interesting part of that is they
give equity free funding, so they'll ask for equity of
your company. You can come here. You get that funding

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just to kickstart and move around. So that's the second one,
paralating in general. So the third one I'll say is
the tax incentives. If you're if you're a sex startup,
you can apply for tax incentives that gives you back
roughly like forty to fifty.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Percent of what you invested in software. Oh wow, so
if that's a lot of money, exactly.

Speaker 9 (52:54):
So if you receive investment and you want to unstpend,
the only they g it again here is that you
need to move to Puerto Rico, right right, that's technologe.
You need to use to Porto Rico. You have those incentives.
And the other incentive that is kind of attractive for
startups mostly if your profit owner, is that you get
you get to pay four percent taxes on exporting services.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
Oh wow, So if you export services.

Speaker 9 (53:19):
From here, let's say you're an agency, you will be
taxed four percent, which is very unique and different.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
There's nobody else.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
It's Sebastian is part of Parallel eighteen and I put
a link on the blog if you want to find
out more information. But you know, this is one of
those things where if you've got that adventure spirit, especially
if you want to do something in the Central or
South American space, you may want to look into this.
And I got to tell you, the weather in February

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does not suck, so you may want to check that out.
Sebastian vid All, I really appreciate your conversation today. I
think this is really fascinating, and like I said, I
just feel that this's there's a lot of opportunity if
you are will to look at some of the problems
as opportunities.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
I think Puerto Rico is on the cusp.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, I'm doing something really good.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Sebastian, thank you so much for your time today. All right,
we'll be back right after this. I am trying to
get someone from the governor's office on as well, because
there are specific questions I'd like answered about the infrastructure issues.
They are significant, like the electricity often goes off here for.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Days at a time.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
And what's funny is one of the wonderful people that's
been helping us down here.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Said, eh, you know, you get used to it.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
You just figure it's time for you to take a
break and go to the beach when the power goes off.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
And I was like, of course, of course, that's exactly
what it was.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
So we're working and hopefully we'll be able to do
that a little bit later in.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
The in the in the week.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
One of the things I will say though, that I
when I'm talking about there's so much opportunity down here
because like many places that were devastated by COVID, we're
in a pretty nice neighborhood in Puerto Rico, but even
along the street here which American financing is revitalizing this
beautiful old building, there's a lot of empty buildings and

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a lot of buildings that could be done similar to
what they've done here, which has taken old space and
make it into some new place for business. So it's
like I wish I was a real estate developer, because
if I was, I would probably be down here sniffing
around trying to find deals to do some of the
stuff that they're doing right now in San Juan. Now,

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I've got a lot of other stuff on the blog
today that I want to get to. We already talks
about elephants not being people. But this next story is
incredibly important.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
This is so, this is a big deal. Now.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Yesterday, when I was talking about Trump's executive orders, one
of the ones that I thought was surely going to
be challenged in court was his stroke of a pen
changed to the Constitution when it comes to birthright citizenship.
I do not believe that Donald Trump has the ability
with a stroke of a pen to change birthright citizenship.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
But I do believe that what he did.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yesterday will allow this case to be heard in the
courts where we can have some sort of clarity on
whether or not birthright citizenship should be extended to people
who are in the country illegally.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
So the deal is this many.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Many, many, many many years ago, and I should have
pulled up those Supreme Court case and I didn't. So
I don't know the name of it, but I know
the details. I wrote a paper on it in college.
So these Chinese immigrants who would come to the United
States legally had a child in San Francisco, and that
child's citizenship as through birthright citizenship was somehow challenged. But

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I don't remember all the details. It's been a long time.
But the question put before the courts was do legal
immigrants therefore bestow birthright citizenship on their children?

Speaker 4 (56:58):
And the court said yes, which.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Is perfectly reasonable because if you think about it, even
back in the Founding Father's times, there were many people
who are still immigrating here and having children who then
became citizens of the United States of America. So it's
one of those things that we've decided that on the
legal immigrant part, but we've never had a discussion about
whether or not people who broke the law to come

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to the country are afforded the same rights when it
comes to birthrights citizenship. And this is going to be
decided because attorneys general.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
From eighteen states, including.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Ours, sued Tuesday to block President Donald Trump's move to
end a decade's old immigration policy known as birthrights Citizenship,
which guarantees that US born children are citizens regardless of
their parents' status.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Now, I don't think that we have established that at all.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I think it's been don't ask, don't tell, and when
people did try to challenge it from the side of
I am a legal citizen because I was born here
and my parents were here legally, they've been told they
don't have standing.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
That's the other issue.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Who has standing to challenge these rules. So by Donald
Trump trying to do this now, I'm afraid that the
Supreme Court will We'll find a way to say, look,
we're going to rule on the way he did it,
which would be you can't do this with a stroke
of a pen. But we're not going to rule on
the issue. But they have to rule on the issue.

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We need some kind of clarity. And here's the thing,
you guys, I have no idea, no clue what the
Supreme Court would do.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
I don't know what any of the president is. I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I do to that one case, but that again was
dealing with legal immigrants to the United States.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
So I'm not sure where this is going to go.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
But having that clarity would certainly make it easier moving
forward to determine what we're doing. So Trump's executive order,
which was issued Monday, was the fulfillment of a campaign promise,
but Attorney General Phil Wiser had this to say, The
White House executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship is

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flatly unconstitutional. The idea that a president could override the
Constitution with the stoke of a pen is a flagrant
assault on the rule of law and our constitutional republic.
I believe that was supposed to be stroke of a pen.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
I don't know who made that er.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
So now the Trump administration is making the argument that
I'm making that the fourteenth Amendment has never been interpreted
to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
The United States. And they say the Fourteenth.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Amendment has always excluded from birthright citizenship persons who were
born in the US but not subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
So this is going to be a big deal. I
mean a big deal.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Would getting rid of the Jones Act benefit Puerto Rican
I do not know the answer to that question, Texter.
I'm not going to pretend that because I've been in
Puerto Rico for four days I'm somehow this Puerto Rican
expert now, because that would be a big fat lie.
Somebody else just texted anchor babies. Yes, Indeedy, that is
what we're talking about, Mandy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Pregnant Chinese women.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Are coming to the United States to have babies and
then go back to China with those babies. Are those
babies allowed to be Are they allowed citizenship? Anchor babies? Now,
what you're talking about is a little bit different. You're
talking about birth tourism, and yes, this is an actual thing.
I'm not even making up that name. Birth tourism is
when someone seeks a visa so they have legal status

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in the United States, they come over for the last
two months of their pregnancy, they have their baby here,
and then take their baby with their American citizenship back
to China with dual citizenship for China. So that has
been going on for a very long time. And I
don't think it's just China. I think it's a lot
of dictatorial regimes where the parents want to make sure

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they have an out just in case. And hey, I'm
going to be straight up, if I was in that situation,
I want one hundred percent do the same thing, awe
hundred percent. And I don't think those people are breaking
the law. That's the thing that has kind of been decided,
So we're not even talking about that now. If you

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want to talk about using that child to have chain
migration from a family, meaning Okay, your baby was born
here and that means mom and dad get preferential treatment
if they want to come to the United States and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Get legal status.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
If you want to talk about chain migration being a problem.
That's a whole different conversation, but it's a legitimate point
because if you're going to allow people to come here
and have babies to create those citizens that you're then
going to use for chain migration so you two can
get legal status in the United States, then I can
make the argument that the system is being abused and

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that's not at all what it was intended to. So yeah,
another question, why didn't Puerto Rico use the federal funds
to rebuild their power infrastructure? You guys, their power infrastructure
is so terrible. It is terrible. It's like third world
country terrible. And that's why we're trying to get someone
from the governor's office to just ask some of these

(01:02:20):
questions because it's going to be really hard for them
to bring in the kind of tax base that they
should have.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
This island is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
This should be a mecca for Americans who want to
go to an island and don't want to have a passport.
This should be like a choice vacation destination for people
in the United States of America, and they're missing out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
But I don't know the depths of their issues.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I don't know why the power infrastructure is so bad.
I mean, obviously they got hit with Hurricane Maria, but
that's not what hurt it. I mean, that's not what
did it in it's aging. You can tell it's old.
It needs to be buried, which is going to be
incredibly expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
But I don't know. And maybe this governor will.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Be able to advocate for her island and to get
something significant done.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
I don't know. I do not know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Witnessed anchor baby births from Mexico through my visiting nurse
experiences in the nineteen seventies, I've heard some interesting stories.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
I met a man once. I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
When I met this guy, he had been married like
twenty seven times, and even as a kid, I was like,
you either suck at being married.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Or something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
And then I found out later he had married a
bunch of women so they could get green cards in
the United States, Like oh, oh, yeah, okay, stay classy.
Milania used chain migration for her parents, so it must
be okay, And there you have it. I'm not opposed
to immediate family chain migration. I am opposed to extended
family chain migration. Your cousins, your aunties, your uncles, that's

(01:03:55):
not you know, like, if you want to come and
you want to bring your kids, your spouse and your parents,
we can have that conversation, but bring it everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Nope, not going to do it. They can go through
the same process you did. For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Most of the hurricane money went into the governor's pocket.
I think they have they have. This is a new governor.
I don't think she's the same governor.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
I will investigate and I'll maybe have an update right
after this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Keep it on, KOA.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I got a bunch of stuff on the blog that
I want to get to you, including this. This is
we're starting to know more about the investigation into Douglas
County schools. And you guys know, I'm a huge fan
of doug Coe schools. But as I said the other day,
no school district is perfect. And one of the criticisms
that I've heard consistently for some time is from the

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parents of kids who have disabilities of varying degrees. They
have long felt that the district was not taking as
good care of their children as they should, and that
unfair practices were being used against some kids, including seclusion
rooms and restraint and now this is all coming out

(01:05:06):
in a federal investigation from the US Department of Justice.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I know so many people that work in the district,
and they work in varying levels. I know a lot
of teachers, I know a lot of administrators, I know
people who work at the main office, and everybody wants
to do right by the kids, even if they have
fallen short of that standard. So I fully expect Douglas
County Schools to come up with a plan to meet
a new standard and to execute it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
And as soon as this is resolved.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
In any way, shape or form, like some kind of
resolution has been put forth, I will invite the district
on the show to talk about it. But until then,
until this is completely resolved, obviously no one will officially
go on the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Record about this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
But you know, I would never expect any organization to
be perfect. Ever, that's just an unrealistic standard. No one
is perfect. No one's going to get it right all
the time. But I do think you can tell the
character of an organization by how they respond when they
do get something wrong. And I have confidence that Douglas

(01:06:12):
County Schools will not compound this issue but figure out
a way to move it forward instead of, you know,
trying to brush it under the rug. But I know
that some of this has been an ongoing concern. The
investigation originally started when the schools accused of failing to

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protect students from racial harassment. I have been told, and
I have not been able to verify this, that that
specifically related to an off campus group chat in which
some students were being overtly racist to some other kids
of color. And you know, I don't know what happened there,
but the parents are very unsatisfied.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
But in that case, I kind of have to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Think that the school, and again I don't know what
they did or did not do. They may be guilty,
they may have done something terribly wrong. So I'm again
speculating here, what is the school's responsibility for off campus behavior.
I think that we ask schools to do too much
in that respect. Now, could they facilitate a meeting between parents?
I think that's a reasonable ask, but I don't know

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exactly what. I am not comfortable with schools enforcing any
sort of punishment for off campus behavior because that is
an extremely slippery slope that I am not happy with
the prospect of schools.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Being involved in that way. So that is the latest
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
When it has resolved in any way, shape or form,
we will have the district on and find out exactly
what they are doing to make.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
It right when we get back. I've got a couple
stories that I want to jump into.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
One.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
This is one of the things that I am super
incredibly hopeful about, and that is I believe that we
are seeing the death the end of diversity, equity and
inclusion as we know it, not the concept, but the
current execution. We will discuss that when we get back.

(01:08:09):
Keep it right here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Condo live from the American Financing Content Creator Studios and
San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Here's Mandy Connalls and Connelly sad thing. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
The third hour of the program.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
As the guy just said, the Alan Roach Voyce just
told you, I am in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Fascinating place.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
So it's just chatting with a colleague about just the
politics in Puerto Rico and then the stuff that's going
on here is just really really interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
I had no idea, and yet here we are.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
I've got grant Jesse Thomas waived a magic wand and
turned from a Jesse into a Grant with me right now,
so he'll get us through the next hour until we
hand the show over to Koa Sports. But I got
to tell you, one of my favorite things that Trump
did with his executive orders right out of the chute
was laid off everybody in the federal government that worked

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on diversity, equity inclusion initiatives. Now, I want to be
clear about something for those of you who listen and
only hear the stuff that you want to hear. I
think that having a diverse workforce of talented people who
are all working together for a common goal is a
great thing. But having diversity for diversity's sake is not,

(01:09:44):
because it not only elevates people to jobs that they
should not have first of all, it then casts dispersions
on the people of color who legitimately deserve to be
in those jobs as people look at them as a
diversity higher We've seen it over and over again, So
I I think these things need to go back to
being a meritocracy and we need to make sure that
there are enough people of color in the merit program

(01:10:07):
to be considered in the first place. But diversity equity
and inclusion is a nightmare, an absolute nightmare. It's divisive.
I think it is racist, and I think it's terrible.
I think anything that divides people by the color of
their skin, something they have no control over, and either
elevates or denigrates someone because of the color of their
skin is wrong, regardless of whether you're denigrading someone because

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they are black or brown or white. And these things
should not happen. So the fact that he just went
scorched to earth. The FCC, the Federal Communications Commission under
which I have to operate, has put out an edict.
I got an email this morning and I just want
to share it with you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
It says companies ranging.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
From Ford to Walmart and Meta to McDonald's are ending
their diversity equity and inclusion programs. The Federal Communications Commission
is the latest organization to do so. Chairman Brandon Carr
has followed through with his pledge to end the agency's
promotion of DEI. He says the effort itself promoted discriminatory
policies and runs counter to the stated purpose of the commission.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Now here's the thing. Here is the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
The thing is this that we have to recognize that
I think diversity, equity and inclusion as it is today
has also become wildly unpopular with a lot of people
on the left because it is divisive and it is
in many cases nonsense. It's one of the most interesting

(01:11:41):
grifts I've ever seen, because the gist of it is this.
If you're white and you say I am not racist,
that is proof that you are a racist. Now if
you are white and you say, well, I have herbered
racist feelings in the past, but I've come to see
the air of my way and I no longer view
those racist statements as they were too bad. You are

(01:12:05):
still racist because racists are irredeemable in DEI, meaning no
matter what you do, how hard you try, how many
courses you take, where some obnoxious woman yells at.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
You about your right privilege, you are.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Still always going to be guilty of the original sin
that they have assigned to you, often without evidence. So
this is a great thing, and I honestly believe this.
Unless the Democratic Party has a death wish, unless they're
dying to become completely irrelevant. They are not going to
bring this stuff back up because this stuff is part

(01:12:40):
of the reason that they lost and they have to
know it. I mean, they just went too far. This
is the same thing with the January sixth rioters. I
really believe that had the Biden administration's Department of Justice
carefully prosecuted people who were actually involved in violence where

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either someone else was hurt or something was destroyed, if
they focused just on those people, then perhaps Donald Trump
would not have been so quick to just pardon them all, which.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Is how it came about.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
By the way, according to people that were in the room,
Donald Trunk said, ef it pardon them all because of
the overreach of the Department of Justice going after people
like Monuments Jasi's grandma.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
They went too far. If they had just stopped where
everybody could say.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Look, you punched the cop in the face, you got
to pay the price for that, I think most Americans
be like.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Yeah, you got to pay the price for that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Don't hit somebody with.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
A flagpole, hell about you know. But they didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
They prosecuted people who were just in the vicinity, people
who walked through the Capitol after they were invited in
by police, didn't do anything destructive, then walked out of
those same people are being prosecuted. It's patently unfair, and diversity,
equity and inclusion unfair because it assumes guilt on one side,
and it assumes superiority of one race or another, and

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it's not okay. Mandy will see how well DEI is
working or not working for LA and California right now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Certainly does look that way. Certainly does Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
On a similar note, John Stossel has a new video
on the decline of ESG. ESG is another bit of
toxic stew. This was in the investing world.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
They wanted to know about your.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Environmental social and I don't even know what the G
s did for. And they were only going to invest
in companies that they agreed with their philosophies. Except the
last time I looked, ESG funds were stinking it up.
They were losing money, They were not making money for
the people that were investing in them. So now even
Wall Street's like, yeah, you know what, why don't we
just not do that?

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
Why don't we just go back to look in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
At profits and losses and expenses and the soundness of
the companies before we decide whether or not to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Invest in them or not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Afternoon, Mandy, when I get together with other veterans, we
don't use.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
DEI but die.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Yeah, yeah, DEI must die.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
That's where we are now.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
DEI says this Texter is the worst thing to happen
to minorities and women. We were finally getting to a
society where you could trust the system to promote on merit.
Now minority professionals are looked at as if they came
through a different, lower standard. And that is the point
I made today on the blog. These policies are patently
unfair to just absolutely incredible candidates who happen to be

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minorities who are now being besmirched by this notion that
somehow they didn't believe that they didn't deserve to be there.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
It's wildly offensive.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
And every time I see a woman who has obviously
been elevated to her position well beyond her skill set,
I die a little bit inside because I know that
hire is going to somehow put women back even further.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Next time. I'm super super frustrating. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Blm writers did way more damage and got no punishment.
A perfect example of the two tier justice system that
must be stopped under President Donald Trump when we get back.
Oh boy, do I have Oh can we talk about
mentally ill suspects for a moment. We've got a big
problem in Colorado and there's not an easy solution.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
We'll do that right after this. Keep it on KOA.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Obviously, we know what happened at the sixteenth Street mall,
and the guy who has been arrested for stabbing four people,
killing two of them, had a long history with both
mental illness, substance addiction, and police encounters. And yet he
was released from the police custody on a promise to

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go turn himself into another organization called Bridges of Colorado,
and they are supposed to help defendants that have mental
health disorders. The reality is is that the notion that
a mentally ill person who had attacked someone previously would
participate in turning themselves involuntarily at another.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
Location is dumb. I mean, it's just dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
I'm not opposed to interventions for people who obviously have
mental health disorders, but there needs to be a like
a direct handoff from here. We're letting this man out
of jail now, and now we're going to give him
to you, to put in some kind of other program
or situation where he can a get treatment, but b
make sure he is properly confined. And what we don't

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have in Colorado is that this editorial is well, let
me just read part of it. Eye opening follow up
reporting by the Gazette real that Caudell was released from
custody on other charges only months ago to participate in
a state program called Bridges of Colorado. It coordinates services

(01:18:02):
for defendants with mental health disorders. As bail expert Jeffrey
Clayton pointed out in a Gazette commentary published last weekend,
Bridges had no legal authority to take custody of or
even supervised criminal defendants. Evidently, codd Ill was able to
walk away and disappear into Denver's streets. In other words,
Colorado's justice system utterly failed the public.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Now there's a long.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Bit about how much money is being spent on this
program and things of that nature. But here's the reality,
and this is an ugly awful reality. The reality is
this that the state is going to have to spend
significant dollars in order to create facilities that are capable
of caring for the mentally ill people that are on
our streets, because right now that function is being served

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extremely badly by prisons in jails. Because the mentally like
this guy like codd Ill, they're wandering around on the
streets until their psychotic break gets so severe that they
decide to lash out and harm other people.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
And now we have two people.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Dead because we did not have something to do with
this guy. Now, a lot of mental institution, state mental hospitals,
those things they all closed many many years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
And people love to.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Say, oh, Reagan, he closed the mental institutions and threw
people out on the streets. But the reality of that
situation is that that had started back in the nineteen
sixties when big Pharma came out and said, we have
drugs that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Can fix people with mental illness.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
And they lobbied, and they lobbied hard, and they lobbied big,
and they lobbied long, and eventually they convinced enough members
of Congress that yes, indeed, we could solve this problem
with drugs. And apparently no one in Congress asked the question,
what if they refused to take their meds, which is
so incredibly common with people with mental illness. This is
the cycle with people with mental illness. They are not

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doing well, and then they go on medication. They start
to feel better, and they convince themselves I am cured,
I am better.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
I no longer have to take these.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Meds that make me feel terrible, because a lot of
those drugs have horrible side effects, and they do.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
They make people exhausted and feeling like they're walking through
mud all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
So that is well, I'm better now, So they stop
taking their drugs, and then they fall off the wagon
have another cycle. I mean, it's just like this vicious,
horrible cycle, and we have to recognize that that cycle
is not going to change. So we as a society
have to decide we have to make sure that there
are facilities that people can go to, and then we

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have to make sure those facilities are not run like
ancient torture chambers that inspired one Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest,
which by the way, was a further nail in the
coffin of such institutions. So we've got to do something.
It is going to require a lot of money, but
I don't think we're ever going to solve our homeless
issue without going full bore at the mental illness that

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underlies so much of it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Maybe the families consume bridges or whoever runs that crap.
I don't know if it was their responsibility. I don't
know what their actual responsibilities were.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
To be perfectly honest, I don't know. I have no idea, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Mental illness should be no excuse for crime. Trial for
the mental illness person people are dead, punish the guilty, Rick,
You know, Rick, that sounds like a very rational position
to take a realistic position, like, even if you're crazy,
you should still have to face the culpability.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
For what you did.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
But I've been around truly crazy people, and the disconnect
between what they think is reality and what is reality
makes it difficult to argue that they should be held
responsible in the same way. I don't think they should
be let out on the streets, but I don't think
prison is the answer. We're gonna take a quick time out.
Oh my goodness, you don't hate NBC News enough. I

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got a bunch of other stories that we're going to
talk about, so keep it right here.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
On Kowa, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Why is it that you never hear about people going
nuts and then handing out ten dollar bills on a corner,
or mowing people's yards at random, or volunteering at soup kitchens.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Why is it always bad stuff? That's a great point.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
I guess we notice when the voices in their head
tell them to murder someone instead of when they tell
them to mow a lawn.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Maybe I don't know this next story.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
I got a bunch of stories I'm gonna get in
this last half hour before we play of the Day
with Chuck.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
He is currently.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Tied with me for the week one to one on
of the Day, So Grant choose the category accordingly. I'm
just letting you know that you get to see me
every day. I just want to throw that out there, Grant,
no pressure, no pressure, you're not.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
On Chuck then, oh stop it, you big jerk.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Anyway, let me get through these topics real quick here,
because some of them are significant. NBC News proves once
again that we just we do not just buys them enough.
And why so? Pete Hegseth has had a devil of
a time getting through this confirmation process, and they have
really gone after him because both Republicans and Democrats are

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very invested in having a certain kind of leadership at
the Pentagon, A certain kind of leadership that when the
Pentagon says, hey, you know this weapons system is not performing,
we should cancel it, the member of Congress can call
up the leadership of the Pentagon and go, hey, that's
in my district.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
You can't cancel it. They go, oh, yeah, we forgot
it's working. Great.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
They need this. So in order to create a situation
where Pete Hegseth could not get confirmed, they're throwing everything
against the wall. And the latest is this an affidavit
by a woman named Danielle Dietrich, who used to be
married to Pete Hegsas's brother.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
She is also an anti Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
According to Pete Hegsas attorney, an anti Trump, far left
Democrat who is now divorced from Hegsath's brother and never
got along with the heg Seth family. And she has
put forth an affidavit that said that Pete Hegseth was
abusive to his second wife, and that she was scared,

(01:24:15):
and that she created an escape plan, all of this stuff.
And she has signed this affidavit and Democrats are now
passing it around Capitol Hill. So NBC News did do
journalism and go to Pete Hegsex's second wife, Samantha, and
she categorically denied it. She said, first and foremost, I

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have not and will not comment on my marriage to
Pete Hegseth. I do not have representatives speaking on my behalf,
nor have I ever asked anyone to share or speak
about the details of my marriage on my behalf, whether
it be a reporter, a committee member, a transition team member, etc.
She added, I do not believe your information to be accurate, and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
I have c seed.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
My lawyer asked my NBC News for clarification about what
was not accurate. She said on Tuesday, there was no
physical abuse in my marriage. This is the only further
statement I will make to you. I have let you
know that I am not speaking and will not speak
on my marriage to Pete. Please respect this decision. So

(01:25:25):
NBC News runs with the story anyway. So there you go, Mandy.
It's called nuts for a reason. Yeah, Mandy, if I
got stabbed and start mowing someone's lawn for free, I
would probably Oh. If I got crazy and started mowing
someone's lawn for free, I would probably get stabbed or killed.
There's actually a whole genre of social media accounts of

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guys who go in most people's yards for free. Have
you seen this, Grant, Are you familiar with the lawnmowing
genre on social media?

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
I have seen it, actually, And there's this guy that
I follow that I really like that just goes around
to different yards and he sees ones that are overgrown,
and he just goes up to the homeowner, knocks on
the door and says, Hey, do you mind if I
clean up your yard for free?

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
And then leaves it looking to spectacular. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
I don't know how this got started, but I feel
like that's like, if you're going to make a column
of the best of the Internet, let's move it into
the best of the Internet category, cause it is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
It's just a nice thing to do doing nice things
for nice people. Imagine imagine that, Hey, Grant, I got
a question for you, because I know you're a beer guy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
You enjoy your craft beers as a young person in Colorado.
In Colorado, forty one breweries closed or left the state
last year. Forty one beer sales are down by three
point two percent, which is higher than the national average
of two percent. In twenty twenty four, Grant, have we
hit and passed peak beer in Colorado.

Speaker 8 (01:26:52):
Well, I think the issue is that the market was
just so oversaturated that you know, like if you did
find a place that had really good beer, then there's
so many other ones that maybe you don't go back
to it enough and then they go out of business.
There was one up in my neighborhood called Oasis Brewing,
and we absolutely loved the place, went there all the time.
They had great comedy shows and great beer, and then

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they just went out of business out of the blue
over the holidays. And it's like, I think there's just
too much competition that you can't really make a name
for yourself unless you're someone like Oscar Blues or Left
Hand Brewing or you know Station twenty six. There's a
couple that are that are amazing great divide downtown.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
But I just think there was.

Speaker 8 (01:27:31):
Too many and you can't you can't survive, and you
can't make a name for yourself, especially as a new
brewery when there's so many in the market.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
There is a natural curve when something becomes popular, right,
and it doesn't matter whether it's beer or waxing studios
or whatever, that like trend of the moment that's happening.
And if you were in in the beginning and you
have the chance, like Great Divide or Oscar Blues or
any of these breweries that have been around, like the
Og Brewer Rees, you have the ability to sort of

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create and your niche and carve out your part of
the market. But if you're late to the game, to
your point, it's impossible. And I actually think I blame
that on some of the horrible garbage beer that has
been brewed in the last five years, where it seems
like they're just trying to make the worst tasting ipa

(01:28:23):
or sour to get some kind of like publicity.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
I'm telling you that is I believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
I agree.

Speaker 8 (01:28:30):
I think that subplaces we're just trying to do too much.
Like no one needs a beer that tastes like popcorn,
you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Or grass clippings.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
But whatever, chill out a little bit.

Speaker 8 (01:28:41):
Just give me a West Coast I PA, give me
a freaking blonde ale and.

Speaker 6 (01:28:45):
Call it a day.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Call it a day.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Yeah, Chuck wants to say something, No, you're not on,
No you're not You're not on.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
I'm telling you right now, Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:28:55):
Everybody, that was the one that was exactly Grant, what
I was going to say someone my buddy Sean, I think,
was drinking a popcorn beer and I was like, what
in the world is that?

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Yeah, it probably just makes your breath smell like a
popcorn fart.

Speaker 10 (01:29:10):
I mean, I'm glad you said it because I was
thinking it too.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
It in younger kids, not that you're like elderly now, Grant,
but younger kids are not drinking beer. Yeah, I guess
they're all smoking weed because they're not drinking alcohol at all.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Like that gen Z.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
The ones who are of age are simply not consuming alcohol.
And I wonder the beer market I feel like has
been a huge part for young people.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
I mean, I know when I was young.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
There's dollar beers at whatever I was going to, you know,
in college was a huge part of my drinking life.
And I still love beer. But I think your point
about it just being oversaturated. I'm interested to see what
happens this year. Yeah, and how many more brewies do
we lose?

Speaker 5 (01:29:51):
And Chuck knows this just as well as I do.

Speaker 8 (01:29:53):
Where we grew up in Athens, Ohio, Man, the deals
you could get on beer at Ohio Universe Diversities Camp
were unmasked quarter beer night.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Oh now I will see your quarter beer night, and
I will raise you nickel beer.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Yeah, nickel beer.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
And then there was there was bladder bust at the
First where at any time during the night they would
yell bladder bust, walk the doors, and everybody would drink
free until someone went to the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
And I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
That was an actual thing that happened every single week
when I was in college. It's amazing that I'm not
a complete drunk at this point. Honestly, they really made
it easy this This dexter said, any beer that ends
in I PA is disgusting. It tastes like my feet farted.
So there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
Well feel yeah, yeah, but the hazy I could not
get on that trend.

Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
It's like drinking a milkshake.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I struggle, like I can have a stout right, a singular.
I cannot have more than one stout.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
It's like a meal in a glass and I I
just can't do it. I I like one, but then
I got to move on.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
I know you're a teetotaler, like like you just like
a baptist over.

Speaker 8 (01:31:09):
Well, Chuck's a big seltzer guy, right, all about the
white Claws.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Literally said I gave him a sip of a Seltzer
one time, and granted it was not a great Seltzer,
I will admit.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
And he said, it's so it's it smells like.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Someone burped as that can went by.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
That's the flavor of that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
It's just like a burp, a great burp, and that's
what flavored the can.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
So so there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
This Texter said beer is like Harry Potter's every ever
flavored jelly beans. Can't wait for earwax l o l
not wrong, not wrong. Dime beer at the Rocket Hockey
Games pre avalanche.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
Oh, now we're talking. This is what people want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Why jed X turned out, Why how we did that
is exactly why Nickel beer bladder bust dime beer at
the hockey game.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
This is what's wrong with us. This is what's wrong
with us generation and I have a warp o. Go ahead, grad.

Speaker 8 (01:32:08):
I was just gonna say, I hate to say this
because I do love craft beer, but I'm to the
point now where I'm just like, give me a PBR
or a Budweiser because I know it's gonna taste normal, exactly,
exactly right. Welcome you could take the white trash out
of the or you could leave the white trash behind,
but you can't take.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
It out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Rose. That's what I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Now, you don't have a blast there's a blast beer
laying around over there, Little King's Cream mail, Yeah exactly. Okay,
I got one last warning for guys, and I know
someone who used to make this product. French customs officials
said Monday that a record thirty one thousand tons of
the illegally imported honey, touted as an all natural sexual enhancement,

(01:32:54):
we're seized in the country last year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
What is this honey?

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Well, it's honey mixed with basically viagra, and there's no
quality control, there's no dosage control. The packets of honey
and jails are sold as shots or sticks with names
like black Horse or Biomax. They're sold like when you
get off a cruise ship at a port.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
There's a guy selling them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
My favorite is honey Hard.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was the name of it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Yeah, but that's not anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
All they're saying is, if.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
You need the prescription, get the prescription. You know, it's
super easy to get the prescription. Guys don't be buying
this because it's just basically honey laced with viagra, and
and then you know you don't need to find it.
That's the point that they're trying to make. It could
be way too much, and then you can end up
in the emergency room with the most embarrassing problem ever.

Speaker 10 (01:33:47):
You know, you know, four hours later, go to ther
This is you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
Exactly, you don't want to be the guy walking in.
It's like, I sorry, I have this thing that won't
go away and it's been seven hours now.

Speaker 8 (01:33:59):
This reminds me of ses you'd get in the gas
station back in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
Those were cool out of the same vending machine where
you could buy a shot of Polo.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Or Drakar.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
It was dra car, like I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Okay, I got to tell you a story about that. Okay,
So we're at a borrow one night and this guy
he decides he's gonna saddle over him with a bunch
of girls, and any guy that as an individual guy
that would walk up to a group of.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Women, I figured that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Had some stones and I was going to at least
have a nice conversation with him, right, because it's that's
a scary thing to do is walk up and talk
to a woman and group of women. So this guy
walks up and we have a nice conversation. Check is
of course going, No, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Not, Grant.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Do you think it's scary to walk up as a
single guy to a group of women that are together
to talk to one of those women?

Speaker 8 (01:34:45):
Yes, I think so too, because you know one of
those people is going to be like, why is this
guy coming up to us?

Speaker 10 (01:34:52):
Exactly exactly because you have to win them over first.

Speaker 6 (01:34:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
See, Chuck has a strategy.

Speaker 5 (01:34:59):
Saying, you know, if you're going to do it, do
it right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Well, I have a nice conversation with this guy, and
it's not in any way. He doesn't appear to be
hitting on you. It's literally just a check right, just
a conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
And he walks away to.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Go to the restroom, and I and one of my
friends said, what is he talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
I said, we're just having a chat.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I don't even think he's hitting on me.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
It's just you know, he comes back and he literally
smells like he just went in the bathroom and bathed
in tracar and noir.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
And I was like, oh, he is hitting on me.
Guys like, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
I mean, it was so and you know, it was
just one of those situations where I was like, you
had a shot, you maybe had a shot of getting
a phone number, and yet you decided to roll in
the DRACR noir in the bathroom, and the jig is up, buddy,
that is not a thing that's happening. I have a
really interesting story on the blog today. If you like me,
like I try to eat healthy. I do my best,

(01:35:50):
but sometimes I'm racing around. I didn't bring a snack.
I got to figure something on the fly to go
get to eat. I have some healthy options at various
fast food restaurants, and some of them are obvious, like
the Chick fil Aa grilled nuggets. Those things are not
bad for you. They got a lot of salt if
you're watching your salt. But other than that, they're perfectly fine.
But who knew A crunchy taco at Taco Bell not

(01:36:14):
that bad. Only one hundred and seventy calories.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
And only six dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Oh god, no, no, you're kid.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Right, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:36:23):
I get a three taco meal from there, and it's
like eleven dollars now, and when I remember it being
like three dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Oh wait a minute, great, oh great, met grit when
you were you know how much.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
When I first went to Taco Bell, I was a
flight attendant and I was living in Los Angeles and
had no money. Bean burritos were thirty nine cents. And
I lived on bean burritos for two months. And I'm
not even kidding, because that's all I could have went.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
When I came back from Korea.

Speaker 10 (01:36:49):
The only place I made my cousin stop from the
airport was Taco Bell, and I spent twenty bucks on myself,
and the tacos were twenty nine cents. I spent twenty
bucks on myself, and then I bought it there lunch.
I missed Taco Bell so much. Now it's not the same.
It's just not the same.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Oh that is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
All right, my friends, Chuck is here in beautiful Puerto Rico.
We're about to go eat some serious seafood. I'm getting
as much seafood as I can while I'm down here.
He's mafungo. They love some carbohydrates here in Puerto Rico.
I mean they love their carbohydrates. There's a lot of
carbhydrates with every single meal down here Puerto Rico, every

(01:37:29):
single one. What Now it's time for the most exciting
segment all the radio of its.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Guy world love the day.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
All right, all right, my friends, what is our dad
joke of the day?

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Please?

Speaker 8 (01:37:45):
First grant dad joke of the day. I thought this
one made me laugh, so hopefully it does for you
as well. My new car has a button for everything.
There's even one that says rear wiper. I'm still afraid
to try that one. Suck.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
Okay, I like that one, and I like that one
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
All right, what is our word of the day, please
grant word.

Speaker 9 (01:38:06):
Of the day?

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
Opine.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
It's a verb opine pine, which means to.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Talk about something, kind of wax poetic about something, So.

Speaker 8 (01:38:13):
You discuss, yes, correct to express an opinion about something.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
All right, today's trivia question. I'm not going to pretend
I would have known this. I already looked at the
answer and it still doesn't look familiar. So I hope
you guys know absolute zero registers at how many degrees celsius?

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Absolute zero?

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
I don't even know what absolute zero really is. I
know I learned that in school, but I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:38:37):
Remember four fifty four hundred and fifty below, you know
two and twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
You're so close grant minus two hundred and seventy three
degrees celsius.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
What is absolute zero? I'm gonna have to look that up, life.

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
But I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
I don't think I know.

Speaker 6 (01:38:54):
Do you give the definition?

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
What is our jeopardy category?

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
Absolutely cold?

Speaker 8 (01:39:00):
There's a dad joke for you category for today music makers,
music makers, music makers first one. In two thousand and three,
he and Art Garfuncle broke their sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Mandy, who is Paul Simon?

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
Correct? Chuck, I picked this category for you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
She's good sometimes, yes, sir.

Speaker 8 (01:39:27):
His two thousand and two Back in the US tour
was named the Tour of the Year by Billboard Magazine.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Two thousand Mandy, who is Bruce Springsteen?

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Incorrect? Hey it back in the US?

Speaker 8 (01:39:40):
Oh yes, sir, nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
He has no idea, No idea, sir.

Speaker 10 (01:39:49):
Paul McCartney, Oh, I was thinking Ringo.

Speaker 5 (01:39:56):
Next one.

Speaker 8 (01:39:57):
He did a little of my way his way when
he appeared on an episode of TV's Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
I know your name there? Who is Frank Sinatra? Incorrect?

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Oh my god? Sticking it up over here, Chuck, silence
is golden.

Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
Nope, not a clue.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
You cannot win by just sitting in answer any of
the questions.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Okay, well it was.

Speaker 8 (01:40:18):
A triple stumper, paul Anka.

Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
Next one.

Speaker 8 (01:40:25):
The Raiders, a revolutionary group of the nineties, were led
by a man with this revolutionary name.

Speaker 10 (01:40:33):
A revolutionary group of the nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
The Raiders.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
By a revolutionary name.

Speaker 10 (01:40:41):
Score.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
I have minus one, you have zero.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
I have no idea.

Speaker 10 (01:40:47):
I have I know a band back from the sixties
that had a name like that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:51):
He rode a horse.

Speaker 10 (01:40:54):
Yeah, I know what you're going to say, I think,
but I don't know him from the night.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
What is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
That's not the nineties, It was in the Raiders back
in the that was the sixth Oh, you're right, I
missed right that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
So I should have one more point.

Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
No, we're not giving you another point.

Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
All right, last, great category?

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Why okay?

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
What is it?

Speaker 8 (01:41:17):
In nineteen seventy two, he and missus Jones had a
thing going on.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
I can picture him perfectly.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
Two first names. I'm sorry, first names.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
I can picture the guy perfectly. Yeah, great voice.

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
It was last name, but not you guys really crossed
this category.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
I know we're doing great, Billy, because I'm already doubt
Billy Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Billy, Paul, I knew Paul.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
I didn't know the last name or the first name.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
You did not You have nothing because you never said
your name and you've never guessed him.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
You just you won by default.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
That's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
You still your cheater, eater?

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
Thanks youse?

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Are you anyway? I'll be back tomorrow again from beautiful
San Juan, Puerto Rico. We got a lot of stuff
already on deck for tomorrow. Oh, I just want to say,
I'm so sorry to Colorado School of Mines football fans
because their coach is leaving from Montana State.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
Sad day for the Mines. Anyway, we'll turn it over
to KOA Sports. We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it right
here on KOA