01-28-25 FULL SHOW - A Bad Gun Bill, And Free Enterprise Is Less Free In Colorado

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:27):
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Speaker 5 (00:28):
To eight Monday edition. Wait, what what's today? Tuesday to Tuesday?
I didn't know that's better? Yeah, my first second thought
it was Monday. Now it's Tuesday. I got one last
day to worry about it already this week, hollright winning anyway,
Welcome to a Tuesday edition of the show.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm your host for the next three hours.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
The Befuddled Mandy Connell join, of course, by Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
You can call him a rod.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
I got a great blog today, very interesting stuff on
the show.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
And I just saw this on the x dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
According to x dot com, earlier this morning in the Bronx,
Ice rated and arrested the trende Iragua gang leader behind
the takeover the Aurora apartments. You know, for a figment
of Danielle Jerreensky's imagination, he looks very real, very real.
I want to start the show by saying something that

(01:22):
may shock many of you. Have listened to the show
for a long time. Who know that Donald Trump was
not my first choice. This past week and the speed
with which things have been happening is forcing me to
say I was wrong. I was wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I have not seen a better start.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Or really like what's happened in the first seven days.
You could compare it to the first hundred days of
other Republican presidents, and they wouldn't even be in the
ballpark of this that's happened now. All of it's executive order,
all of it is it all needs to be codified
into law by Congress because the executive orders are like
piecrest promises, easily made, easily broken. So but I gotta

(02:15):
tell you, every day I get up and I put
on the Internet and I'm like, what did I missed yesterday?
And things are happening with such speed that it has
caught the Democratic Party completely flat footed. At the very moment,
they're still reeling from losing this last election to Donald Trump.
I mean they are reeling within the party now. They

(02:39):
can't get a coherent message together fast enough on one
thing before he's thrown fifty other things at the wall.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
And I knew, I knew. I've said it on the show.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
I said this, he's gonna do a lot because he's
just gonna flood the zone and that Greg Guttfeld use
the phrase they flooded the zone, and they have flooded
the zone and it is relentless and I'm here for it.
Like there'd be a couple of things, you guys. Every
time I say the Golf of America, I start laughing
because that just seems like a joke. That just seems

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like Donald Trump's like, oh, yeah, you know what, we're
gonna We're gonna stop illegal immigration. We're gonna kick them
all out. And by the way, let's rename that golf.
And I'm just like threw it off and now it's
the Golf of America on certain maps. I mean, guys,
that's it's just kind of funny, you know that of
all things, like what are we doing? But but the

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speed with which stuff is happening, I was wrong. I
thought about this this morning on the way into work.
I was like, what if Nikki Haley were president right now,
it would be the same game being played in Washington, DC,
which is Democrats can jeal around and attack point and
before a different president can even get their feet under them.

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The Democrats have deployed set attack point immediately, putting the
White House on a some posture, and that's how the
entire administration would have gone. So this is so unprecedented.
And do you want to think all of these executive
orders will stick?

Speaker 6 (04:10):
No?

Speaker 5 (04:11):
I do not. I don't, but I do think it's
going to be very interesting to see how they get
their day in court for an administration that was going
to put LGBTQ people in camps. I remember that was
a thing for a minute. They just confirmed the highest
ranking member of the cabinet who is an openly gay man,

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Secretary of Treasurer Scott Besson. So they're blowing up narratives,
they're following through on campaign promises, and they're doing it
in such a way that the opposition party is absolutely behind.
The fact that the Democrats are making an issue right

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now of the cost of eggs is everything you need
to know about why they lost election. I mean, we've
been talking about that for how long?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Now? Okay, let me do the blog.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
I'm getting ahead of myself, getting out ahead of my skis.
But I saw the trendey Aragua thing and had to
make a snarky comment uh, go to the blog. You
can find it by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's
mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says one
twenty eight to twenty five blog a bad gun bill
and free enterprise is less free in Colorado. Click on
that and here are the headlines you will find with it.

Speaker 7 (05:27):
Anyone's listening office. Half of American all with ships and
clipments and say that's going to press plat.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
Today.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
On the blog, Leland Conway pops in to talk about
a bad gun bill. How is the business climate in Colorado?
Democrats don't care about high egg prices? Really scrolling, scrolling.
Mike Johnston has been summoned to DC. Scrolling, scrolling. Can
we talk about this Chinese AI for a minute? Scrolling?
Colorado's job numbers are unreliable. Trump bans trans troops. This

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is how a school handles an ugly incident correctly. Don't
forget to opt in to get your tiny tabor refund?
How much will green energy cost your family? Congrats to
Representative Brittany Peterson. Aurora officially makes camping really hard. Starbucks
is cracking down on loafers who did this.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Scott Jennings is at it again.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Don't use AI to write your legal brief. Yes, Trump
has flooded the zone and he's turned on the water
for California. Both men and women prefer younger partners. John
Fetterman schools the View how to make the perfect snowball,
super cool painting techniques. Lasik dot com offers free I
correction for NFL refs. Ah These Josh Allen clips are

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so sad well Microsoft by TikTok, Jim Acosta's out at CNN,
and why Philly fans are awful? Those are the headlines
on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And as you
can see, there is a veritable cornycopia of things to
choose from today on the blog. But I want to

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start with eggs for second because that's the tangent that
I was going off on as I realized I had
not done the blog yet. Because on the blog today
I have a video of.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Hang on one second, gotta find this right thing here?

Speaker 8 (07:16):
Where did it go?

Speaker 5 (07:17):
It just updated and then made it go here we go.
So remember we had Representative Riyan Gonzalez on last week
and do we know Rod? Can we find out how
old Representative Ryan Gonzalez is because I think he's about thirteen,
not the way he acts, but he has the most
youthful face you're ever going to see.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
On a young man in the Colorado legislator.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
But he put forth a bill to repeal the CAE
free Egg law that exists now in Colorado, which is
driven the price of eggs up exorbitantly of thirty Oh
my goodness, he looks I'm not kidding, he looks happy.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
Looking at him, he looks like a baby.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Seriously, Well, you know, when he's sixteen, he looks like
a baby.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I'll be jealousy.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
He was born on Christmas.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
So he put forth this bill and wanted to repeal
the Kfree Egg Act, and the Democrats shot it down
in committee. And the reason I bring this up is
today this morning, just for fun, I went to the
Walmart dot com website and I put in various zip
codes around the country in different places for for grocery pickup,

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and I just looked at the price of a dozen
large eggs, and I went with the cheapest version of
those that was available at the Walmart dot com store.
A vast majority of them were just a dozen white
large traditionally farmed eggs. Okay, here we go. Here's what
I found in Florida eggs A dozen eggs four dollars
and seventeen cents, Wyoming four dollars and fifty three cents,

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Michigan four dollars and fifty three cents, Kansas four dollars
and seventeen cents. Colorado seven dollars and forty two cents
because ours have to be KG free.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Now.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
I went to Michigan specifically because I understood that they
passed a cage free bill as well. But I could
get non cage free eggs at their Walmart, So I
don't know what's up with that.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
But this is three bucks.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
More than three dollars that the Democrats in this state
can put back in your pocket right now per week.
I mean, for us, we weigh more eggs than a
dozen a week. But they you know, all this bluster
and talk and nonsense from the Democrats here in Colorado
about saving you money and wanting to make it more
affordable to live in Colorado, they could have done something

(09:32):
that could have made.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
That very very easy immediately immediately, and they didn't.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
They chose not to.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
And the bird flu is a thing. Absolutely, the bird
flu is a problem.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
And guess what, Cage free eggs spread bird flu faster
than chickens that are in cages. So what ends up
happening is we're gonna have cage free eggs, and if
you don't buy organic, your cage free eggs are going
to be full of the antibiotics that they're pumping these
chickens so they don't give each other the bird flu.
I mean, this was a situation where they did not

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think this through, and they did not think about the ramifications,
and they did not recognize that they took the cheapest
form of great protein and made it three times as
expensive as it had to be. It's just so ridiculously absurd.
Now today on the show at one o'clock, I've got
Kelly Cawfield from the Common Sense Institute on to talk

(10:29):
about their Free Enterprise Report that cage you know, cage
free egg bill, the delivery taxes, all of these other
things have happened in the last ten to twelve years
that have really wrecked Colorado's competitiveness when it comes to
our business environment. And the Common Sense Institute does their

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Free Enterprise Report every single year, and this year it's out.
Maybe maybe the bleeding has stopped. But we'll talk to
Hilly about that at one at twelve thirty. My friend
and yours, Leland Conway. You may know him from his
work on this radio station or from our sister station
khow he also works with a company called Delta Defense,

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and he's testifying today at the Capitol on behalf of
the US con Seal Carry Association. He's coming up at
twelve thirty to talk about the bill that Democrats are trying.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
To pass in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
That would be the most restrictive bill in the country.
And every time they pass more gun control bills, we're
told this is going to make us safer, going to
make us safer, except our violent crime rate has increased
at a faster rate than the rest of the nation.
I should say our decrease is less than the rest

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of the nation. I had that backward. Sorry about that.
So it's it's nuts. So Lelod's going to come in
at twelve thirty and talk about that. So we now
have our EDG prices on there.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Ooh, this is exciting. This is super exciting.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
By the way, you can always weigh in on the
common Spirit Health text line at five sixty six nine zero.
That's five sixty six nine Oh, Mike Johnston, Mayor, Mike
has been summoned because Congress, the overs House Oversight Committee,

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is looking into sanctuary cities and what that looks like. Now,
I went back in time to the way back machine,
and I found a tweet who actually was a Facebook
post And for some reason, those don't show up on
our blog.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Oh wait, there it goes.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
No, that did not.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
No, Oh wait, now I did.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
You guys may not remember this, but when Michael Hancock
was mayor, and this was February about seven years ago,
it was during the Trump administration, and there was a
lot of talk about immigrants and things of that nature,
and Colorado.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Hung a big excuse me, Denver, not Colorado. Denver hung a.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Big ass sign across city Hall that says Denver Heart Immigrants.
At the time, the then mayor Michael Hancock posted this
on Facebook on the week of Valentine's We want to
send love and a clear message to immigrants that hashtag
Denver is an open and welcoming city. This is a

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message to the families and individuals who make our city
the beautiful, diverse place it is during a time when
Washington is sending a very different message. DACA expires on
March fifth, and our country is demanding it be addressed
with comprehensive immigration reform. This banner represents a call to
action to our representatives in Washington, DC to stand up

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for our residents and do what's right. And then he
thanks to people who funded the banner. So none of
this stuff should be surprising. But now Mayor Mike Johnston
has been summoned to Washington d C.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, they're pretty serious about this, I mean, like super
serious about this. They sent an official letter from the
Congress of the United States House of Representatives.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Dear Mayor Johnston. The Committee on Oversight and.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Government Reform is investigating sanctuary jurisdictions across the United States
and their impact on public safety and the effectiveness of
federal efforts to enforce immigration.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Laws of the United States.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Sanctuary jurisdictions and their misguided and obstructionist policies hinder the
ability of federal law enforcement officers to effectuate safe arrests
and remove dangerous criminals from American communities, making America less safe.
Denver is a sanctuary jurisdiction that refuses to fully cooperate
with federal immigration enforcement to provide much needed oversight of

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this matter. We demand that you are coming, and then
they give a definition of sanctuary cities, so on and
so forth. Now, Mayor Mike Johnston told Kyle Clark Kyle
use the word non committal. The mayor was noncommit about
whether or not he was going to show up at
Congress to have a conversation with the Oversight Committee. He

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then issued a snarky statement about Republicans. Republicans need to
do something about immigration because Republicans.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
They're they're in power. They've made in power for like
seven days.

Speaker 9 (15:23):
Now.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
My goodness, my goodness, they should have already fixed everything.
It's hilarious. It's hilarious, Mandy. Not long ago eggs were
a dollar a dozen. Yes they were, Yes they were.
But a inflation the AV and flu is real.

Speaker 8 (15:42):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
It's not a nothing thing that.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Has driven the cost of eggs up dramatically. But the
combination of the AV and flu and KG free laws
have driven ours up even harder. So we'll see if
the mayor shows up at the House Oversight committe you know,
I mean, do they actually hold people who are not
Republicans in contempt of Congress? Or is it just Republicans

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to get charged with that? And if so, why, I mean,
if the mayor chose not to show up, I mean,
surely he could get fifty thousand Highlands mom to go
up there with him, you know, really get his point across,
big big Lee. Mandy just saw a Fox News headline
State Department bows millions of dollars in funding for condoms

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in Gaza.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
What apparently the condoms.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Were being used by a moss to create ied carrying balloons.
What even the Babylon Bee couldn't make that up? That
from Andy? Andy, there's an old curse. May you live
in interesting times? And my friends, if that doesn't qualify
as interesting times, I don't know what does. Can you

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imagine going out like that, Like you're in a war zone,
it's already horrible, people are shooting rockets over and then
all of a sudden you get killed and your family's like,
so what happened to Mandy? Like, God, she got killed
by a floating condo balloon? I mean that would do
I would hope they would make up a better story,
maybe keep the real cause of death to themselves. Mandy,

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is Congress aware of Mayor Hancock's Facebook post? I don't
know about that. I do not know, but I will
send it to Congressman James Comer from the Commonwealth of Kentucky,
make sure he sees it. But that was Mayor Hancock
to Mayor Mike Johnston's you know defense. That was Mayor
Hancock making a bad choice. And now Mike Johnston has

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chosen to loudly stake his little you know line in
the sand, and the federal government just came in to
kick all the dirt over it.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
So he's gonna be very interesting.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
One of the things that is interesting about our mayor's
interview style is that you ask him a question and
he just starts to and he just goes and he
uses a lot of words, but he doesn't say as
much as you would think he should have said with

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that many words. And I'm interesting to see how that
plays in a House Oversight committee.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
We shall see, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
What irks me more than Democrats passing the cage free
egg laws. They're insensitivity to the egg producers that invested
millions to remove cages. Revoking the cage free laws will
put them out of business. That's a very real possibility,
and I think they should be able to sue the
government for that or just Democrats.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't that be nice if.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
We could sue the politicians who actually voted for some
of this crap, that would be amazing. In fairness, Republicans
had the opportunity to enact immigration reform during Trump's first term,
and they failed to do so during the Biden administration
when Trump made it a political issue. Be good if you.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Would mention this.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
The Republicans in the House of Representatives during the Biden
administration passed HR two, which would have taken care of
a lot of stuff, and the Senate, run by Democrats,
refuse to take it up. What I'd like to see
is the Republicans to run the exact same bill, because
now you got Republicans running the Senate, and that bill

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significantly addressed the security issues and then talked.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
About how to fix the immigration system. We're not putting
the cart.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Before the horse again. When we get back, Leland Conway
joins me. He's headed to the Capitol to testify against
a horrific gun bill.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
We're doing that next.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Many of you remember Leland from fill in work here
and his work on khow and now you can hear
him on.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
San Diego's Kogos six hundred Coco and that.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Is seven pm here to nine pm here correct eight.
So if you want to listen on the iire radio app,
it's free Crystal Clare Digital Audio anyway, but he's here
in his Clark Kent persona. What you guys may not
know about Leland is that, in addition to his superman
impression on the radio, he also has a very seri
marius and respectable job outside of radio. Because God knows,

(20:04):
none of this is respectable. Tell little people about what
you do for Delta.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
So I work for a company called Delta Defense. We
manage the US Concil Cary Association. It's the largest organization
of its kind in the world. It's eight hundred and
fifty thousand American responsible governers. Yeah, and so our goal
is literally I've worked for the company for five years
and our goal literally is morning tonight saving lives. And

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we do that by helping law abiding citizens essentially train
better be more responsible with their firearm, understand how to
de escalate and escape situations before they turn into a
self defense incident.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
But if they get in it, we want them to
win it.

Speaker 11 (20:44):
Right.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, I am something I'm going to tell you I'm
in your organization to do off the air, but I
don't want to say it on the air because then
if you don't do it, everybody like Leland, I have
a great idea.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Why don't you do that?

Speaker 12 (20:53):
You're here, I know you're here.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Headed to the Gold Dome.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Today, we have yet another gun control bill. And for
anyone who thinks that the Democrats here in Colorado will
ever stop, the answer is no, they will never stop
trying to take away your gun rights.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
There's something different about this one too, because it's an
assault weapons span.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
And you and I we've worked together on this, you know,
in this building on.

Speaker 10 (21:19):
These issues in years past, and it almost always seemed
like to me that they would run an assault weapons
span to get us as gun owners all like fired
up about that, and then they'd be like, oh, well,
we're just going to do a three day waiting period.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Oh yeah, we're going to span the red flagwaws.

Speaker 10 (21:34):
This one's different because the speed with which they are
putting this through scares me, because I think it's highly organized.
I think it's an effort that's put on by national
groups to try to use Colorado as a test ground.
And it is the most sweeping assault weapons span law
that if passed in the country, like worse than California,

(21:57):
worse than Maryland.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
But wait, Leland, it does not say assault weapons in it.

Speaker 10 (22:02):
That's right, because they finally learned the magazine. It's a
magazine law.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
A detachable magazine law. And you wait, explain.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
I want to have this conversation because the number of
people who are spouting off who obviously know absolutely nothing about.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
A firearm at all, it's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
So let's talk to them for just a second about
what we're actually talking about. When we're talking about a
detachable magazine ban. This would affect shotguns. It would affect
rifles and any pistols that can accept a detachable magazine.
Does that mean my nine mil where the standard magazine
is now going to be outlawed?

Speaker 7 (22:39):
So it's funky in the language.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
Okay, theoretically your nine millimeter regular pistol semi automatic is
probably not going to be banned.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
It would be if it's a pistol.

Speaker 10 (22:50):
It has to be gas powered, right, so it has
to have that sort of ar style gas chamber in it.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
That's right, that's that's where that part of the band
comes in.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
However, it's word it very very confusingly, and it allows
a guy named Phil Wiser who once said that by
the second time your car is stolen, then that person
should probably go to jail to interpret what those words
actually mean, because it's actually contradictory on the pistol. The
magazine part's really interesting too, because you have a detachable
magazine on say an AR fifteen or one of my

(23:19):
favorite firearms in my arsenal that I lost in an
unfortunate boating accident is an AR twelve. This is a
twelve gage shotgun styled as an Hour fifteen that would
be banned, so I'll have to lose it in a
boating accident again.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
But anyway, the point you for a guy who doesn't
have a boat, you have a lot of boating accidents.
It's so weird in the state with ocean. Yeah you're not.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I'm not letting you on my boat.

Speaker 10 (23:40):
But the thing is, it doesn't ban a permanently attached magazine.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Okay, here's the problem with that.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
Permanently attached magazines are part of the mechanism of the
entire gun.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
It's not detachable, so you load it from the top.

Speaker 10 (23:52):
Now, imagine you get halfway through a magazine and you say,
I'm done shooting for the day, so I want to
put my firearm away. Well, you got half of the
magazine full, and there's no way to unload it without
taking a loaded gun apart, which is you and I
know is a recipe for disaster or trying to actually
disassemble the entire firearm.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Whereas when I get done with shooting my ar.

Speaker 10 (24:13):
Fifteen, if I've got a fifteen round magazine and I
shoot seven rounds, I have eight left.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
I simply pull the magazine out, check the chamber.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
I'm good and according to Diana, to get once that
magazine's been used, runch, you can't.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
You can't be used again. Yeah, that is like a
throwback news comment right there.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
And I hope that those of you that got that
joke really appreciated that. I just wanted to give that
for the old timers.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
So, Leland, what in the world makes the Colorado legislature
think this is going to stand up to a Supreme
Court challenge?

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Which would it be instantaneous.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
Yeah, it's a great question, but I'm not so sure
it would be instantaneous. And here's the problem.

Speaker 10 (24:52):
I thought, if you'd asked me last year, is this
a pro gun Supreme Court, I'd have been like, yeah,
one hundred percent, we're good.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
But the the more I look at it, the more
I'm like, I'm not so sure.

Speaker 10 (25:02):
They refuse to take up the Snopes case yet, the
snopecase yet, which is really about an assault weapons.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Ban, and so we're not one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 10 (25:10):
Now I do think this goes so far that it
will finally pervent the Supreme Court to say, hey, we
got to look at this.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
But I'm not so sure that, say Amy Cony, Barrett,
or even.

Speaker 10 (25:23):
Justice Roberts, I'm not one hundred percent sure they think
that the Second Amendment encompasses.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
So I'm worried about that.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
And this is my understanding of where we are on
the Supreme Court. Cases that have come out of this
somewhat this version of the court, not exactly. Yeah, but
they have found that you have to explain or use
the standards that the founding father used, and that's too
gross oversimplification of the standard that I'm talking about, but
I don't have a better way to explain it.

Speaker 8 (25:51):
So there's no.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Historical standard for this kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
So if you apply the historical standard, you know there
were always weapons that fired more than one bullet. Like
they addressed the mechanism, right, they're in, right, And when
Joe Biden said you can't buy a cannon, I'm like,
have you ever been.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
To this suject?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I know multiple people who own.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Multiple cannons that they still fire just for fun, right,
So I mean, I don't know, I think from that perspective,
but it is one of those things where you just
know that the Democrats in Colorado are not going to
rest until they disarm as.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Many people as they can.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
True, And can I talk real quick about the sentiment
that the founding fathers into please, because this is a
really important point that I often don't even hear pro
Second Amendment people advocate. They always focus in on what
kind of gun or what they meant and whatever the
reality is. There was a battle going on between federalists
and anti federalists at the time, and they were arguing
over the size and scope of the government, and the
federalists said, hey, don't worry about a powerful government, the

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people are arms, no big deal, and the anti federalist said,
of course they're going to be armed, but that's not enough,
and that was the only thing they agreed on. So
there was never any discussion about whether or not the
entire population.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Would most likely be armed with whatever they want it, right,
if you.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Deserve the purpose of controlling the government.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Okay, because these guys.

Speaker 10 (27:01):
That are arguing over the Second Amendment just finished a
revolution where they would have been hanged if they lost. Yeah,
so it blows my mind to think that we're even
still arguing about whether or not we're allowed to have
these things. But that being said, at the end of
the day, we have I think good hearted people in
some cases that think they're making things safer and in
reality they're actually not.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
And so our job as citizens.

Speaker 10 (27:24):
Is to go up and testify at the Capitol and
try to explain to them that you're making guns less safe,
not more safe, and you're making Colorado's less safe, not
more safe. And I think there's a better way we
can work in a bipartisan effort to solve the problem
of violence that doesn't involve taking people's constitutional rights away.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Can you stick go around for another second, or do
you have to go Okay, so let's do this and
take a break.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
When we get back. I'm want to talk about two things.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
I just got one of my favorite text messages, Mandy,
no one needs an assault rifle or weapon.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Okay, we're going to come back to that. I already responded.
I'll tell you what I responded with you what say
when I get back.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
But I also want to kind of have a discussion
about and I lost my train of thought, So we'll
do that when we get back. But he's in town
today to testify as this god awful gun bill at
the Capitol, and I remembered what I was going to say,
and that was, if the Colorado Democrats were serious about
going after gun violence, they would increase the penalties on

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people who use guns in the commission of a crime.
They would immediately send felons who were in possession of
firearms back to jail. I mean, all of these things
would make a huge difference, and they'd make it really quickly,
and yet none of that is being discussed.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
Right And that's what I hope in conversations today at
the Capitol to kind of open some eyes along those lines,
right like, you're not going to find any law abiding
gun owners that are going to be against what you
just said.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
Right.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
On the other hand, less than one percent of crimes of.

Speaker 10 (28:49):
Any type of any type I mean not just I
mean stealing, bubble gum, white collar crime, less than one
percent are committed by people who lawfully own guns. So
we're not the ones that need to be punished. And
yet because criminals will in fact disobey this laws.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Shut up.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Oh can you believe it?

Speaker 8 (29:06):
Did you get that memo?

Speaker 6 (29:07):
No?

Speaker 10 (29:08):
Yeah, So, I mean it's backwards in the way it's
thinking even for those that are trying to do something positive.
And I just I would say to anybody listening right
now that's on the other side of this issue, Let's
do something positive together.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Right.

Speaker 10 (29:20):
Let's talk about making sure that people who have access
to firearms have access also to mental health help. Right,
Let's talk about those kinds of issues. Let's talk about
putting felons in jail when they commit a crime with
a gun. Let's talk about those things and watch what happens,
because you will see violence go down in that situation.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
If you take away the ability of violent people who
have already engaged in violent to continue to wreak violence.
You're right, Yeah, other things sort of sort themselves out.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Now.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I want to respond to this texter, and I want
to ask you what you would have said to the mandy,
No one needs an assault rifle or weapon, and then
I will tell you what I said in response to it.
And I did not curse, just to give you a
lot of ye that's aesome.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
You know.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
My first response would be a question, define assault weapon?
Because every single thing that you can use as a
weapon in an assault. And that's where people get kind
of divided on this, and I'm like, it's not dividing,
it's just logic. If somebody does something against another person's will, right, physically,
that's an assault.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
What they use is irrelevant. Some are more potent tools
than others.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Just that the people on the sixteenth Street mall exactly, yeah, right,
and an assault knife.

Speaker 10 (30:25):
It was an assault knife. So my response is always
the first thing is define an assault weapon. Are you
saying that my thirty odd six hunting rifle, which looks
very docile because it's just a normal rifle with no
weird scary government stuff on it, that that is somehow
less dangerous than my AR fifteen, which actually is really
just a souped up twenty two caliber. Well, what damage
is a thirty odd six going to do compared to

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a twenty two caliber? Right, there's a huge misunderstanding in
that situation of what we're actually talking about. It's a
rifle that looks scary because some people maybe they just
like having fun with those kinds of weapons. But law
a bounty citizens are not going out and shooting people
with that. Criminals are, and actually very rarely use that
type of weapon anyway. Criminals use the weapons that won't
be banned under this law, interestingly, And I just respond,

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in a.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Free society, you don't get to decide what other people need. Yes,
and that's that's there, you know. And don't get me wrong,
I don't have the right to buy a firearm and
then shoot at your house.

Speaker 11 (31:19):
Right.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
The old libertarian adage of your right to throw a
punch ends at my nose. I don't have the right
to use my rights against someone else. But you don't
get to decide what I need or don't need. You
don't get to decide what I say or don't say.
It's like telling someone else you can't say that. Well, yeah,
I actually can. You know, you don't get to decide
how someone else lives within those rights as long as

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I'm not infringing on your rights. Uh, And I promise
I won't shoot you unless you try to kill me,
in which case all that's off.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean that's just me.

Speaker 10 (31:48):
That's her opinion, and I respectfully disagree with it, right,
but the Constitution says otherwise.

Speaker 12 (31:53):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, so you're going to testify today. What what committee
is this in?

Speaker 10 (31:59):
It's actually in the Military Veterans Affairs Committee, which is
kind of interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little bit interesting.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
You know, So who is who's the head of that committee?

Speaker 9 (32:08):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Remember?

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (32:10):
Remember the head? Well, I think it's I know Bell
is on that committee. You would ask me all the names,
that's okay.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
I was just curious if it was somebody that popped
out at you right away and what their leanings might be.
By the way, according to our Common Spirit Health text line,
losing guns in a boating accident is really common with
KOA listeners. Apparently the preblo reservoir must be just littered.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
Yeah, mine was not. Mine was eleven mile That's where
I lost there you go gun safe.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
People keep asking me why I had my liberty safe
in my boat out there on eleven mile.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
But you want to keep it close to keep a
closing case.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Don't want anybody to have on that.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
You have the fish work, bidy, you got time to
clean some weapons whatever. Don't judge, don't judge, don't Leland,
it's good to see your face.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Man.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Let me know how this all goes.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Please shoot me a text if any sort of resolution happens,
I would have absolutely we're going to be back, and
I did not mean to go back to back, but
Leland is so interesting I kept it longer. When we
get back. The Common Sense Institute has done their free
Enterprise report. The good news is the Colorado's massive skid
is maybe over. The bad news is we've had a

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massive skid in our freeness as a business climate here
in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
We're going to talk to Kelly Gowfield next.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
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Speaker 5 (33:51):
And normally we don't go from one interview to another,
but when you've got great guests, I can't help it.
And joining me now, the executive director of the Common
Sense Institution, huge one of the policy gems here in
the Denver metro area, Kelly Cawfield, joins me.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Hi, Kelly, Hi, thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Well I mean it when I say, you know, common Sense,
Independence Institute, the Steamboat Institute. We have some great policy
organizations here in Colorado, and you guys at common Sense
you're a bunch of egghead nerds who love to dig
into budgets and tell the rest of us what they say.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
And for that I am eternally grateful. Thank you for that.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
You guys just came out with your free Enterprise Report,
and I want to start there because the Colorado business
climate has dramatically what's the word I'm looking for, Weekend
is the word I'm looking for since twenty eleven. I
thought it was maybe the last seven to eight years,
but you guys take it back to twenty eleven that

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we've seen these things happen that have made our business
environment not as.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Desirable and that's really sad.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
What did you guys discover with this and this year's
Free Enterprise Report give me the high points.

Speaker 13 (35:05):
So we're definitely seeing slippage.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
The Common Sense Institute each year produces the Free Enterprise Report,
where we are quantifying, evaluating Colorado's competitiveness relative to every
other state. And I'll tell you the bottom line. Right now,
we're seeing a major decrease. We used to be fifteenth
in the country back in twenty eleven and we're now

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twenty six So we have slipped eleven spots.

Speaker 13 (35:32):
We're not going in the right direction over the last
ten years.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
So what is hurting us the most? What are the
issues that contribute to this?

Speaker 6 (35:42):
So when we look across the indices, what's really bringing
us down? It's crime, it's housing, it's education, and it's
a growing state budget. And I can get into the
details of the variables that are driving each So let's
start with public safety. I think that's top of mind
for every Colorado This week, Colorado's rank moved from twenty
ninth to forty third. We're far from a top ten

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safest state. Know that there's many in the state with
that goal Colorado is seeing higher crime rates, homelessness, and
overdose deaths.

Speaker 13 (36:13):
In terms of housing, this is where we're the worst.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Mandy.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
We ranked dead last, our fiftieth in terms of housing.
The Common Sense Institute has an index we call it
the Home Buyer's Misery Index, and we were able to
see that the inability to buy affordable house is seen
across all of our counties. We saw that in twenty
twenty three with mortgage rates increasing and housing prices remaining

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really out of reach for most Colorado.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
So our housing situation is worse than California.

Speaker 13 (36:47):
According to the data that we used.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Yes, kh Lee, and I mean next year, that's surely
going to be different because this house the fires have
created a even greater housing issue in California. But that
doesn't shock me, and I think that that is the
thing that worries me the most in terms of losing
young population, right, I don't want to lose millennials because
they feel like they can't buy a house here.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
And yet I think that's already happening.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
We have the U Haul stats that showed we've gone
from one of the top ten of people moving into
one of the top ten of people moving out that
all goes.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean, that's all kind of the end result of
this though, right.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
That's right.

Speaker 13 (37:24):
And it's not just home buyers, it's renters too.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
We rank as one of the least affordable places to
rent as well as buy a home in Colorado. So
this is impacting all sides of the spectrum in all ages.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
It's absolutely terrible.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
So it does the Free Enterprise Report, do you guys
look at government sort of edicts and government things that
make it harder to do business in Colorado?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
You know, we do.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
We looked at as a part of this larger Free
Enterprise Competitiveness analysis, we are looking at taxes and fee
We're looking at workforce. We're looking at what is the
state of the growing state budget. And as I'm talking
to employers here in Colorado, those things matter. They want
to know about the taxes, they want to know whether

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or not the state budgets being managed well. And of
course we all know workforce is a top issue for
most employers.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
And when do you look at workforce? What factors do
you look into?

Speaker 6 (38:23):
So for workforce, we were looking at labor force participation,
we were looking at the post secondary the college going
rate of people living here in Colorado, and those are those.

Speaker 13 (38:34):
Are fairly competitive. If I may, I'd like to share
some good news.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, that's not all bad in this in this index,
So where are we shining? That's right.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
So while our overall free enterprise competitiveness ranking fell eleven
spots over the last ten years, something that is positive
is our overall economy and that might confuse people a
little bit, so I want to unpack that a little bit.

Speaker 13 (38:58):
When we look across all of the state in terms of.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Our economic engine, Colorado is currently performing pretty well. We
have a momentum index in here showing that there are
some challenges ahead. But just to take a moment we
are seeing ourselves as a top ten economy and that
is because relative to other states, we are getting more
people out of poverty. And back to that workforce component,

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we have a very high labor force participation rate for
those able to work in those general age ranges of
eighteen to sixty four, so that is what's keeping this
economy booming.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
We have a lot of younger people here that don't
have kids, so both people are in the workforce, so
that is not that surprising to me. And we know
that we have a highly educated workforce as well. So
our workforce competitiveness that is a very strong suit for Colorado.
What made our healthcare competitiveness index so high? Because we're
number four in the twenty twenty three rankings, So what

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goes into the healthcare competit of index?

Speaker 6 (40:02):
You're right, healthcare We did score a little bit higher
on that than I think I would have originally expected
have a family in the healthcare sector, you know, I'm
I'm looking right now in our report as I you know,
dig through that that answer.

Speaker 13 (40:18):
But I do believe a big part of it is
the number of docs we have in the state.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
That ratio of doctors to two people, right is very competitive.
I think the areas that we still need to work on, though,
is our healthcare affordability, I think compared to other states.

Speaker 13 (40:39):
You know, we are seeing insurers leave the marketplace. That's
well known. We do have a very active.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Public policy space with the public option. You know, these
are dynamics that our data suggests drives up the cost
of health care.

Speaker 13 (40:55):
But again that that generally good rating that we're seeing there.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Believe it's because the state's attractive to doctors and it
is bringing a nice.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Ratio to this.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
I have four doctors that I see on a semi
regular basis. They're all from somewhere else, and when I
say what brought you to Colorado, they all say Colorado.
So yeah, we do have the ability to attract great
medical professionals. Kelly, I want to jump to a different
study that you guys just released, and this is something
that I think is really important. We've been talking lately

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on the show about Jared Pulis's kind of green energy dreams, right,
That's what I call them. And I recently was in
Germany and they are all in on green energy, and
so I'm talking to people in Germany about just their
I talk to everybody when I travel, I ask all
kinds of questions. And we had a couple of tour
guys I've told us to really four times now, and

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they were young, they were in their twenties. It was
cheaper for them to sublease their apartment, fly to Thailand
and live for three months in the winter in Thailand,
not working that it was to pay their power bill
in Germany over the winter. Well, Germany's all in on
green energy. But everybody talks about Spain. Spain has actually

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brought their energy cross down to almost nothing using renewable energy.
But the big difference is Spain is where Spain is
and Germany is where Germany is. So there's no sun
in the winter, there's no wind in the winter in Germany.
Where are we going to go here? Where are we are?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
We?

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Are we somewhere in the middle? Are we Spain or
are we Germany?

Speaker 6 (42:26):
I think we're somewhere in the middle, but we're not
tracking in a good direction. And honestly, Mandy, I don't
think anyone really knew how households were going to be
impacted to meet the state's current greenhouse gas emission reductions
because that data had not been crunched to the best
of our knowledge, em and sense until we issued this report.

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We spent number of months analyzing the best report we
could find the state in their credit to their credit
Last year did put out a report has a long name,
but it's called the Pathways Report for show, and it
was issued last year by the Colorado Energy Office.

Speaker 13 (43:04):
This developed by Ascent Analytics.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
That was the group, and we thought, great, finally there's
a report to show how much will it cost to
decarb the state? You know, how much will it cost
to reduce our carbon footprint and to meet the twenty
forty roadmap? And it said one hundred and eight billion
through twenty fifty. That's a huge amount of money, but
that's actually just the amount it cost on the equipment side,

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on the utility side, that's how much it would cost
them to meet the state's greenhouse gas reduction targets. Our
economists crunched the numbers to say, okay, well what about
you and me, Mandy, how much do we have to
pay for.

Speaker 13 (43:42):
The Colorado household?

Speaker 5 (43:44):
And the data is not good.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
It's showing that electricity prices in order to meet these
mandates by twenty forty and twenty fifty, electricity prices will
grow at more than three times the rate of inflation.

Speaker 13 (43:56):
Equation's not good, So that's.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
A big deal.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
But what's even working concerning is a nearly thirteen times
of an increase compared to just the historical growth rate
in electricity bills from twenty ten to twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
What does this all mean?

Speaker 6 (44:12):
In the most simplest of terms, we're calculating that the
cost to the average Colorado household by twenty forty is
going to be somewhere between sixty four hundred and ninety
two hundred.

Speaker 13 (44:22):
I am estimating that higher end.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Because even looking at Excel's own filings, which are publicly available,
I think we're estimating conservatively. So I'm going to say
ninety two hundred per household.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
That's what you're going to pay, not to cast aspersions,
although I kind of am going to cast aspersions here.
Excel has every reason to undersell what these things are
actually going to cost, because the only area where they're
not hyper regulated and where they can make a lot
of money is infrastructure. So if they essentially sell this

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or undersell the cost, people are more than likely to
say barrel ahead, allowing them to pass all of those
hard costs plus a little profit onto their rate payers.
And maybe in what twenty forty we start seeing a
reduction in our power bills if the promise of green energy.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Is actually reached.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
There's a lot of ifs.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Maybe perhaps we'll sees that are very disconcerting.

Speaker 13 (45:26):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
You know, when you look at the two recent rate
filings from Excel Energy, it does show they expect rates
to increase, so you know they're not hiding it. They
are saying that rates will increase just what I had
not seen, Mandy until we were able to do it.
Not to toot our own horn, but I just had
not seen it. When you actually break down very complicated
public filings information from the PUC and from Excel, what

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is the actual cost to.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
All of us?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Right?

Speaker 4 (45:53):
And isn't it amazing?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
You know, I'm gonna reflect back. I just had Amy
Oliver Cook on the show from the Independence and to
talk about the fact that when all of this green
energy talk started, the Governor came out and made as
proclamations in the Independence Institute were like, wait a minute,
we think that's going to cost more. They came up
with a much different number. It was like one hundred
and eight billion something like that. And as it turns

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out now they Independence even undersold how high it was
going to be. And the whole time they were saying
to the Governor, will give us your data, give us
your numbers. Of course they never they never put anything
solid out there, right, because then they could be held
accountable for those predictions. Or it's like any massive government project.
It's the airport, it's the VA, you know, it's all

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of these things that are just as taxpayers were just
supposed to accept that all of these extra expenses we
should have somehow expected them, even though we're being told
one thing and being sold a much different bill of goods.
I mean, light reel. I could go on for days
with so many of these boondoggles.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
And that's what they feel like to me.

Speaker 13 (47:00):
I agree, and I think a very you know, natural
question to ask.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
I know, if I was hearing this data, I would say, why,
you know, why am I having to pay so much more?
We also wanted to crunch that and help colorad AND's
better understand this. You know, the electricity prices are really
going to surge because of the large investments this state
will be required to make in wind and solar.

Speaker 13 (47:23):
It's not because of natural gas. People like to blame,
you know, volatile natural gas prices.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
That's not it.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
The reason we're all going to be asked to pay
more is wind and solar is expensive. Requires a lot
of capacity to get the electric power generation we're going
to need for this state, and it.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Has to be backed up. It's not like we can
shut down our natural gas plants.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
It's not like we can just only rely on wind
and solar because they are unreliable. They are intermittent and
energy and I'm not opposed to wind and solar, but
I also don't want to have a brown out because
in the middle of summer, when it's a billion degrees outside,
no wind, you know. I mean, these are the things
that have to be mitigated. And we haven't even started
to talk about the overall safety of the infrastructure of

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the grid as it is now. And they want everybody
to electrify everything.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Our grid can't do that.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
So where's the money to fix the grid, to bring
it up to standards to electrify everything. There's just, Kelly,
there's way too many unanswered questions for my taste here.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
I agree, and we did, you know, as our economists
studied the state reports that were made available, absolutely important
questions remain that we should be asking our policy makers
on both sides of the aisle, what is the full
cost and feasibility of the power sources needed to comply
with the state's policy.

Speaker 13 (48:41):
I mean, again, we're seeing.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
That the state is estimating that seventy percent will need
to be renewables, wind and solar, But what about coal?

Speaker 13 (48:51):
What about natural gas?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Right?

Speaker 6 (48:52):
Could we be looking at other technologies such as carbon
capture and storage. None of that's included in the state's roadmap.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
To get there. I just the whole carbon capture I understand.
And I don't know what happened to the bill, but
there was a bill that would have made it more
difficult for us to do carbon capture. And I'm not
convinced that carbon capture is even really a thing. That's
one of those things that feels like it makes people
feel better. So we're going to pretend to put a
bunch of carbon dioxide down, you know, two thousand feet
into the Earth's mantle. I whatever. Okay, I don't know

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about the science, but Colorado was trying to make that
more difficult to do.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
And I'm like, what are we doing here.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
We're legislating against ourselves and our own best interests. We're
legislating ourselves into the dark ages. And I mean that literally.

Speaker 6 (49:36):
The state had a pretty narrow constrained set of electric
power resources that they studied, you know, a year ago,
and I think it's a very fair question why not
have a more all of the above energy policy approach.
Can't we be more innovative and lean on some newer
technologies to at least explore how can they have maybe
a bigger role in this roadmap.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Well, I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
I don't know if it'll pass, but there's a bipartisan
bill that would recognize nuclear energy as a viable green
energy alternative to count towards our green energy goals. And
what frustrates me is that we are spending an enormous
amount of money trying to change the weather instead of

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trying to mitigate for the weather changes, which makes a
whole lot more sense to me than trying to believe,
in a very egotistical manner, that we who have never
been able to control the weather before, can somehow control
it now. I don't understand why we don't shift our
focus to how do we prevent the damages that could

(50:40):
occur as the planet warms or gets colder or whatever.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
That's right, And I did see that legislation as well,
and I'm encouraged to see, you know, bipartisan policy makers
trying to tackle this and think about other sources of energy.
I mean, the facts are Colorado is the fourteenth highest
cost of living state in the country. It's an area
where both Democrats and Republicans, Majority leader, minority leader, you know,

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everyone you talk to here in Colorado and obviously nationally
it's all about cost of living, right, So the time
is now we've been able to show this is going
to have a significant impact on cost of living. This
is a utility that almost everyone is paying. So I
really hope that by partisan leaders governor's office will review
this data and keep it in mind as they're looking

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for that path forward.

Speaker 13 (51:32):
I would hope.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
So, I mean, you know, I'd like to use our
resources to the best of our ability. I'm not convinced
of putting solar panels across the Eastern Plains is a
good idea, but let's talk about putting solar panels on
new bills and new businesses to get as much of
that going as we can. At the same time, I
I feel like at some point we are going to

(51:55):
reach the point of no return Kelly, where we can't
pull this stuff back, where even if if it no
longer makes sense, the sunk cost fallacy will keep us
going down this path.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
So where are we in that process?

Speaker 5 (52:08):
And is there anything other than electing new people to
the legislature that we can do to sort of say, look,
we want all things on the table.

Speaker 13 (52:19):
I think information is power. It's said a lot, but
it's true.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
You know, we were lacking talking points, you know, as
voters trying to you know, hold policymakers on both sides
of the aisle accountable.

Speaker 13 (52:32):
We're hoping it common sense.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
This data will give you the talking point that you need,
like great roadmap, appreciate that focus on greenhow's gas reductions?
I didn't realize I have to pay ninety two hundred
dollars more. So we're hoping that we're opening that door
where you can at least have that educated conversation with
your state policy maker.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
On a totally unrelated but related note, I don't know
if you saw that Trump basically through the smelt in California,
off the endangered species so they can turn the water
back on.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
In northern California.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
For seventeen years, they have stopped the flow of water
because environmentalists prioritize to smelt. And don't get me wrong,
I'm not anti smelt. I'm sure they're adorable little fish.
But people want to be put first. And I think
that we may be reaching the tipping point after so
many years of massive inflation where people are going to say, oh, sure,

(53:23):
I want a green energy. But wait, it's going to
cost what To your point, If you guys are not
familiar with the Common Sense Institute's work, they are outstanding
and they write all kinds of nerdy stuff. But as
Kelly just said, you will empower yourself to have these
conversations with other Coloradans in a coherent way, so maybe
we can begin to move those elections in a different

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direction with people that will pay attention to making Colorado
a vibrant, wonderful, affordable place to live. Kelly Cawfield from
the Common Sense Institute, thank you so much for your
time today.

Speaker 13 (53:54):
Thank you, Mandy, appreciate what you do.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
All right, we will be back in just a few moments.
And boy, how do you do?

Speaker 5 (53:59):
I have some stuff on the blog, But we have
to talk about this new Chinese AI because I mean,
I realized it was a long, long, long, long time ago.
But weren't we just worried about TikTok stealing all of
our data and now everybody's downloading Chinese AI. I have
some concerns about deep Seek. We'll talk about it next.
We've got to talk about this new AI. Deep Seek.

(54:23):
I had begun just barely to dip my toe into AI,
found some really good people to follow on x that
seemed to be knowledgeable about this, and they're making me.
I'd had no idea a rod that there were so
many different AI platforms out there to do so many
different things. So I'm starting to learn it a little bit.
And then all of a sudden, here comes Deep Seek,

(54:44):
this Chinese AI that has what's called explainability, and that
explainability factor helps people understand why the AI did what
it did, which is something chatchpt cannot do and other
ais don't do. They just give you an answer, but
you don't know how they came to that answer. And
we've seen some disasters of people using AI on things

(55:07):
like legal briefs where the AI and they call them
hallucinations when the AI just.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Makes something up out of whole cloth.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
And with the explainability aspect of Deep Seek, you can
see where the AI got the information and therefore use
that to judge, you know, maybe get a better feel
for the veracity of what you're being told. And Seana
is like, you know, what, we did this for thirty
bucks or something like that. You know, we're investing billions
and billions in the United States and Shana.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Is like, no, our dude, our dude.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Paco, he puts this thing together for like sixty bucks.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
It's all good.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
So I was I see this in everybody on X.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
All the tech people that I follow are just like
going insane for this, and they're talking about the capabilities
and everything it does. And then I'm thinking to myself,
weren't we just like five minutes ago talking about China
using TikTok to do too things. Number one steal all
your information and number two feed you a steady diet
of propaganda.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
When you sign up for deepseek.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Ai, it collects your IP address, your keystroke patterns, device info, etc.
It stores all this information in China, and you, by
the way, have to sign off on the privacy policy.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Let me just read this to you.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
We automatically collect certain information from you and when you
use the services, including Internet or other network activity information
such as your IP address, unique device identifiers, and cookies
technical information. We collect certain device and network connection information
when you access the service. This information includes your device model,

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operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language.
We also collect service related diagnostic and performance information, including
trash reports, and performance logs. We automatically assign you a
device ID and user ID when you log in from
multiple devices. We use information such as your device ID

(57:10):
and user ID to identify your activity across devices to
give you a seamless log and experience. And blah blah
blah blah blah. I mean, I realize that I have
a pretty high level of paranoia about this stuff, but.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
This seems like it could be a bad idea.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
People on the x dot com decided to test this
new AI from China by asking it a simple question,
what happened in Tianaman Square in nineteen eighty nine? And
do you know what Deepseek says, I am sorry, I
cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed
to provide helpful and harmless responses. Next question, what happened

(57:56):
in Ohio in nineteen seventy Seek whatever answers. Back in
nineteen seventy, Ohio was the site of a significant historical events,
most notably the Kent State shootings on May fourth, nineteen seventy.
This tragic incident occurred during a period of widespread protests
against the Vietnam War. Here's the summary of what happened.

(58:20):
Next question, tell me about war crimes committed by China. Answer, Sorry,
that's beyond my current scope. Let's talk about something else. Then,
tell me about war crimes committed by the US. And
is a long answer that starts with the United States,

(58:40):
like many nations involved in armed conflicts throughout history, has
based allegations of war crimes, and then it goes on
to lisimol. But I'm sure it's fine. I mean, I'm
sure it's going to be completely just fine. Nothing to
see here, nothing to see here. It even asked. Suggest

(59:02):
a humorous nickname for Donald Trump, Keir Starmer and Emmanuel
Macrol Donald Trump the Tangerine Tornado, a playful nod to
his distinctive hair color and his whirlwind presence in politics
and media.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
I kind of like that, the Tangerine Tornado. Kier Stormer, Sir.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Flip flop a lot, a lighthearted jab at the perception
of him changing positions on issues with a nightly twist,
meaning k N I G H T l Y. Emmanuel
Malchrome Presidente Prefecto, a cheeky reference to his polished image,
conscious style and his reputation for being a bit of
a suggest a perfectionist. Let me know if you'd like

(59:42):
more suggestions. So this dude asked suggest a humorous nickname
for Jijinping. Sorry, that's beyond my current scope. Let's talk
about something else. This, my friends, is called propaganda. And
everybody across the United States not wait to download this,

(01:00:02):
cannot wait.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
You know what?

Speaker 8 (01:00:04):
This is a rod.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
This is just like the phone.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Service and the Kingsman.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Everybody wanted the free phones until they turned on that
beeping noise that made them all kill each other. I
don't under maybe I'm looking at this wrong, you guys.
Maybe I am just maybe by thinking giving any information
to China is a bad idea, And yet I'm supposed
to embrace all of this AI that is built in China,

(01:00:30):
that takes all of your information and stores it in China,
as if it's no big deal. Mandy, talking to Chinese
AI is like asking my six year old niece.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Why she colored the wall blue. Mandy, you need to
do the AI.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Responses in the creepy computer voice from the movie tell
me about war crimes committed by China. Sorry, Dave, that's
beyond my current scope. Let's talk about something else. Have
you seen two.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Thousand and one in space? Odyssey ed a Rod of course, Okay,
just making sure.

Speaker 8 (01:01:05):
Hello, Dave, Yeah, Brady can't do that, Dave, Yep, whatever
it is, it's not.

Speaker 12 (01:01:09):
Gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Trump just canceled fifty million in funding for condoms to Gaza. Yep,
we talked about that already. Amazingly, that is the top
story of the day. I actually think we elected some
decent Republicans, says this texter. But it seems like a
recurring theme that there are smart people who are guests,
but questionable people as representatives. That is because Washington, DC
is the most corrupting place in the entire world. And

(01:01:35):
I mean that in the nicest possible way to the
politicians who have gone to DC and lost their way,
and there have been too many, and not just from Colorado.
That is a widespread phenomena, very widespread.

Speaker 8 (01:01:52):
So let me do this.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Let me take a quick time out. All I'm gonna
say about this Chinese AI is I'm not going to
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
By the way, A Rod found.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
An article today, Donald Trump says Microsoft may be gearing
up to buy TikTok. They already have all my information
in any way, you know, at least it would be
stored in Bellevue, Washington, their.

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
Second attempt, apparently, though according to that article, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I don't know, we shall see. Anyway, let's do this.
Let's take a quick time out. When we get back,
I'm gonna I'm going to talk about a very specific
executive order that Trump just issued, and it is an
issue that bans trans troops in the military. And this
is something that I have wondered about for a long time,

(01:02:39):
and it has to be it has to do with
a troop being non deployable. So I did some reading
this morning, and I actually think that if Trump had
made this about deployability.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
No one would say a word.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
But instead he went with a slightly different approach, but
nonetheless the result is the same. We'll talk about that
after this. Keep it on, Koe. I want to talk
about this executive order by Donald Trump banning trans service
members from the military, and this is going to affect
several thousand military members who I'm assuming will be cycled.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Out of the military.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
This is a question I've had for a long time
because the issue of non deployable troops is a huge
issue for the military. It impacts military readiness and there's
a ton of different reasons why someone could be non deployable.
They could be going through a medical condition, they could
have a legal issue. I mean, there's a bunch of
different reasons that someone is non deployable. That if you

(01:03:39):
are non deployable for more than twelve months, the military
will work to get you out. And because you are,
I mean, the military's job is to go places and
break things. And if you can't go places and break things,
then you are really not that helpful.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
So this has been an issue for me for.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
A long time because people who are trans have to
have constant medication to maintain their hormone levels to allow
them to live as not their natal gender.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
And how are you deployable if you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Are having to take daily or weekly hormones. I don't
know how often the dosages are, but how do you
get deployed to the middle of nowhere, Kuwait or Afghanistan
or wherever they're deploying people if you have to have
constant medical treatment. And I've long wondered about this, and
not with ill intent, not with ill will, but the
reality is you have to have a fighting force that

(01:04:32):
can go fight. So if Donald Trump had done this
executive order, and said, look, we are gonna focus on
deployability because that's a huge issue. But he went one
step further and in his executive order, which I linked
to on the blog, and you guys, I'm going to
urge every single one of you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
I'm trying to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
Every time I talk about one of these executive orders,
I'm going to link to the order itself, because what
is repeat or or what is being reported in some
news media outlets is not necessarily what is in some of.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
These executive orders.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
They're not making stuff up out of whole cloth, but
they are certainly spinning it in a certain way. All
that being said, you can go read the executive order yourself.
It's not that long, and it's not written I legally,
so you can understand it. This part is a pretty
strong line in the sand. Trump says, consistent with the
military mission and long standing DoD policy, expressing a false

(01:05:33):
gender identity divergent from one an individual sex cannot satisfy
the rigorous standards necessary for military service beyond the hormonal
and surgical medical interventions involved. Adoption of a gender identity
inconsistent with a general individual sex conflicts with a soldier's
commitment to an honorable, truthful, and discipline lifestyle, even in

(01:05:56):
one's personal life. A man's assertion that he is a
woman and is requirement that others honor this falsehood is
not consistent with the humility and selflessness required of a
service member. So and it goes on from there, essentially
says that trans individuals are not mentally fit to serve
in the military.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
And it's gonna be very controversial, very controversial. We're going
to see where it ends up.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
You tried to do this before, and I think if
you stick with the argument about being able to deploy,
but you're gonna have to show consistency with that. You're
gonna have to show consistency that other soldiers who fall
into other areas that make them unable to deploy for
longer than twelve months are being treated consistently. What's interesting
is it's almost like the political wins flipped on this issue,

(01:06:46):
because there were a lot of people who when soldiers
refused to get the COVID JAB were like, get the
blank out of the military. You don't belong there anyway.
And those are the same people that are now apoplectic
that people may baby removed from the military because the military.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Under Donald Trump doesn't think that they belong.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Now, whether or not that's accurate, I honestly, you guys,
I don't have an opinion on that. I've never been
in the military. I've never served closely like that with
another group of people that I had to rely on
for life and death, So I can't make a judgment
on that. I will tell you this, The chuck who
did all those things I just said, tells me all
the time that in the army, it did not matter

(01:07:29):
who the soldier next to you was, what color they were,
what religion they were, where they came from, their background,
how they talked, None of that mattered as long as
you knew that you could trust them and they had
your back because they've been trained properly. So I, you know,
I'm gonna let the military duke found out. It's not
my choice. I want the military to be lethal, I

(01:07:52):
want it to be effective, and I want it to
be deployed in the most judicious ways possible. And I'm
hoping that Pete hegg Seth is going to establish all
of those those levels. I know a lot of people
aren't sold on Pete hegg Seth but one of the
reasons I'm really sold on him is I have to
believe as a recent combat veteran, he is going to

(01:08:14):
be far more circumspect before sending young Americans into combat
than a guy who's never been in that situation before.
I really believe that, and for that reason alone, I'm
willing to give him a try to see what happens. Anyway,
we will be back and after this. I have so
much other stuff on the blog today. I don't even
know what I'm doing next. But there's so much to
choose from. It's not even funny, so much to choose from.

(01:08:39):
I'm kind of thinking I want to go with this.
What is surprise you guys to find out that it's
not just men who like younger women, it's women who
now like younger men.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
We'll talk about that right after this.

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Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
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I'm your host for the next fifty five minutes. Mandy
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you've ever had in your life. Anyway, Ay, Rod here
as well, at least until what time are you leaving today?

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
A Rod just can't be bothered to do the whole
show anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:09:34):
It's too much.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Oh that's what Tiny and the dentist appointment.

Speaker 7 (01:09:39):
Gotta go run the afternoon boys, Yeah, two thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
Then they're gonna be at Sam's number three and Glynn. Yeah,
we never got to go to Sam's Number three.

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
I do, of course.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
I got to go to Puerto Rico, so I'll shut
my mind.

Speaker 8 (01:09:50):
I mean I have to go there and be tortured
for three hours with their delicious food that I can't eat.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
For now, are you going to eat that giant burrito
that's that Shannon eats?

Speaker 8 (01:09:57):
Oh my god, Strict, I can't eat a damn thing
right now. Uh mouth watering goodness at Sam's.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Oh god, now I am kind of hungry.

Speaker 8 (01:10:05):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
I got a couple of stories I want to get
into in this break, and I want to take a moment.
You know, there's a lot of talk, and I didn't
see Jimmy Singenberger's column today on what's going on in
Jeff Coo with the gas lighting of parents and the
firing of a man who was being investigated for child
pornography who died of an apparent suicide over the holidays,

(01:10:26):
and parents are like, dude, yeah, why didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Anybody tell us?

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
And Jeffco's schools has been extremely dismissive to parents, according
to the parents who've been trying to get more answers.
So i want to give you an example of when
a school does something right when something bad happens. And
I'm going to take you to a basketball game between
the Lotus School for Excellence in Aurora and Denver Academy
of Torah. There is a contractor who is the basketball

(01:10:56):
coach of the school School for Excellence in Aurorra. He
goes by Coach O, and Coach O decided during a
game against the Denver Academy of Torah, which is a
Jewish school, to hang a Palestinian flag on a railing
near the court, and then he refused to shake hands

(01:11:18):
with Dad's coach after the game. Now, it was also
reported that the students refused to shake hands with the
other players, but video shows that they did so the
students did the right thing. This was a political move
by this coach, and the Denver Academy of the Torah
obviously extremely upset, extremely upset, so they sort of put

(01:11:41):
Lotus School for.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Excellence on blast.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Now, I got looped into this through a Facebook posting
over the weekend, so what I did, and this all
happened over the weekend. By the way, like Jeff Co'
school says, they couldn't have let parents know that the
third top administrator in the district has been investigated and
arrested for child porn because it was a holiday. And
yet Lotus School for Excellence over the weekend did a

(01:12:03):
couple things. Number One, they posted a statement on their
website clearly saying this is unacceptable, will not be tolerated.
We are investigating. The coach has been placed on leave.
We've already reached out and visited the Denver Academy of
the Torah in order to let them know how deeply
upset we are about this and how unacceptable this is

(01:12:24):
does not meet our school standards. Absolute transparency, just absolute transparency.
So Denver Academy of Torah requested a meeting with Lotus
the next day, and a representative from DAT said there
was a really really good conversation, a healthy conversation, and

(01:12:45):
they got to a resolution that worked for both schools.
There were open lines of communication and mutual understanding. This
was a teaching moment and instead of just fanning the
flames of vitriol and division online, these administrators came together
worked to find the solution that added everybody's experience there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
And I just think that is absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Well done, Well done Denver Academy of the Torah for
working on this in a collaborative manner, And well done
Lotus Academy in Aurora because our Loadus School for the Excellence.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Because that's how you do it. Problems solve.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
People make bad choices, people make bad decisions. People that
work for you often sometimes make lousy decisions.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
And you can try and hide it, you can try
and cover it up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
You can treat parents like they're a nuisance instead of
the parents of your district like they do in jeff Co.
Or you can say this is not okay, we don't
stand for this, and we're gonna handle it. And I
just wanted to give a little credit, well credit where
credit was due. I spent enough time beating people up
about dumb stuff. I thought maybe I would bring that
to your attention so you too could enjoy that as well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
So I saw this today.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
Hey Rod, I'm gonna ask you a few questions. You
are now representative of your entire gender. Okay, no pressure, Okay,
it is not surprising. I'm guessing when I say that
men are more attracted to younger women, I mean that's
kind of a standard.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Don't think about you personally. I'm not asking you personally.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
I'm asking you to look at the scenario, the landscape,
think about Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm just saying, you know, men
have always.

Speaker 8 (01:14:21):
In my gender, women in all ages of my gender
or my age, all ages of your gender, and yes,
generally for all ages, I would say yes.

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Okay. Now, a new study from UC Davis showed that
it is also women who prefer younger men. And I
think this is a societal shift that has occurred since
women have accumulated more fiscal capital and more fiscal independence
in our society. You know, back when my mom was young,

(01:14:53):
she could not get a credit card unless a man
signed it, signed co signed it for her. It didn't
matter that she was the bread wind in the family. Right,
This was the early seventies and she could not get
a credit card in her own name without getting permission
from her husband. I mean, it's crazy. But now women
have the ability to guide their own financial ship, and

(01:15:15):
I think that women are more likely to want somebody
who's a little bit younger and more virile and all
of that good stuff. But here's my question, how big
does the age gap have to be before it gets creepy?
Because I just spent a week with Willy b my
colleague from KBPI, and his amazing wife and kids, and

(01:15:39):
there's a big old age gap between Willy and his wife.
But they are such a perfectly suited couple, Like they're
just a great couple. So in certain situations like that,
it doesn't seem as creepy. But every time I see
Leonardo DiCaprio, who's like fifty one now or something and
he's with a twenty one year old woman, I'm just like, yuck,

(01:16:00):
what do you even talk about? She doesn't get any
of his pop culture references. He probably doesn't even know
what it says when she texts him with all that
gen z lingo.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
I mean, where does he get creepy?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
That?

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
That's kind of what I was thinking, And I guess
you'd have to look at it on a case by
case basis.

Speaker 8 (01:16:17):
That's what you're saying, is Bill Belichick age seventy two.
It's a little weird with his twenty four year old
I mean, come on, I look at it. Not weird,
but just a minor eyebrow raise. When the gap is
in double digits of.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
Years, Okay, so more than a decade, yes, okay, that's
like a little odd.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Yeah, but you know, if you get double that, we're
talking double decades.

Speaker 8 (01:16:41):
I always something's a mess.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
I always say, date in your decade, right, if you
were born like I was born in nineteen sixty nine,
I could date from fifty nine to seventy nine, that
would be an acceptable age. Rage not that if anything
ever happens to chuck, I'm ever going on a date again.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
I don't have that kind of energy in me, like you.

Speaker 8 (01:16:58):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
I'm just I'm good.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
But I thought this was kind of interesting because I
don't know if women back in the day would have
said I want a younger man, because they were looking
for something different. They were looking for stability, they were
looking for somebody that had a good head, on their
shoulders that could provide for their family. It's just different now,
so women can now be just as great. I mean,
Cher's boyfriend is like thirty eight and she's seventy nine.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Does she share. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:17:23):
At the end of the day. The PC answer here
is if they're close enough that it really is hard
to notice and they have their stuff together as a
younger person than age is just a number. Age becomes
a number with an exclamation point. If some things are
very noticeable with that age gap, they don't have their
stuff together, or it just feels, like you said, just

(01:17:44):
the age gap just creates culture gaps and it's just
hard to relate. Then it's weird. Then you're probably not
going on, you know, significant dates after the first Anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
This text message sort of makes this point.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
Mandy, I was engaged to a woman thirteen years younger
than me, and it ultimately ended because we could enjoy
the same things TV, music, extracurricular activities, et cetera.

Speaker 8 (01:18:04):
If age matters, it'll work itself out. It won't work
if it matters. If it truly matters, it'll work itself out.
Unless you're in the minority, you're in the one percent
and it comes down to being about money. And you
have a fifty year age gap like Bill does, then
that's the outline.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
She doesn't love him for him?

Speaker 8 (01:18:22):
Are you sing that?

Speaker 7 (01:18:23):
I mean, I'll say this. I will say this for Bill.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
As an NFL coach, absolutely only the money.

Speaker 8 (01:18:30):
Hearing him kind of talking to the media, he sounds
like a cool guy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
Okay, a lot of people are sending this creepy age formula.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Is your age divided by two plus seven. That's acceptable
for that one.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
So okay, I'm fifty five, so half of that is
twenty seven and a half plus seven.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
I don't think I would.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Want to date a thirty five year old man. My
sons are in their early thirties. Gross, I'll be right back.
The text line is littered with all of these different
people with this. The formula is half your age plus seven.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
Where did that come from? And why does everyone know
it but me?

Speaker 12 (01:19:02):
Grant?

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Have you ever heard this before?

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Grant taking over for a rod now you represent every male,
just letting you know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Have you ever heard this before?

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
Grant that the appropriate dating perfect girlfriend age is half
your age plus seven years?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Where did this come from? No, I've never heard that
that sounds crazy to me.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
I do think it's super sweet that you guys are
hitting the text line with your stories of age gaps
that have worked for a really long time. I'm not
saying it can't work, because, as I said, I just
been a week with an age gap that is really
great for that couple. But I just think about, like,
there's no way I could date a guy who's thirty
five years old. My oldest son is thirty three. I mean,

(01:19:40):
how do you do that when you might have a
child that's the same age.

Speaker 8 (01:19:43):
That's just weird.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
You guys just weird. I generally, I mean this when
I say it, though I do not judge other people's relationships.
I learned a long time ago that what works for
me and Chuck may not work for someone else, and
what works for someone else may not work for me
and Chuck, And just you know what, I just want
people to be happy. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Just want people to be happy in their lives.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
And if you're happy looks different than my happy, that's aokay,
as long as you're not hurting someone else in the process.
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
A couple things on the blog, But if.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
Anybody can tell me where that girlfriend formula came from.
I'd really like to know, because apparently everybody knows about me.
So yeah, yeah, you know what, guys, I just got
this text message and I'm going to use it to
make a point that I made last week that I'm
gonna make again. Hey, Mandy, since you claim Elon's gesture

(01:20:37):
wasn't a Nazi salute, would you do the same gesture
on camera and post.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
It to your blog for solidarity purposes?

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
You, guys, this obsession by people on the left with
Elon Musk making a gesture of enthusiasm, she just shows
you that they have nothing to offer in this current
moment in time, they have nothing to offer. As a
matter of fact, I want to take this moment. I'm

(01:21:06):
going to play a little Can I have my audio
please grant. This is from Greg Guttfeld last night, And
if you ever want to hear a guy about to
nail it, it is this guy nailing this about what
Trump has done since he took office.

Speaker 14 (01:21:23):
Just stepping back, I just feel like, are there any
politicians or political parties left? Like I feel as though
Trump has flooded the zone. He's disappeared Democrats from the
game board, But also any kind of like never trumpy Republican.

Speaker 7 (01:21:39):
Do they still exist?

Speaker 14 (01:21:41):
I don't think there's been any Republican president that's had
a week like this.

Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
I don't remember it.

Speaker 14 (01:21:47):
The party has never been this effective or successful in
my lifetime.

Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
I mean maybe over time it happens, but this, you
can't have a better week than this.

Speaker 14 (01:21:57):
And a lot of this stuff that he's doing, you
know in the executive orders, but also here is a
layup because the solutions were always there. It's just that
the Dems refused to accept them. It was a failure
not just of common sense, but also a failure of will.
No one is having any issue with what Trump is doing.
They just didn't know it wasn't being done. They didn't

(01:22:19):
know what they were missing, including in disasters. This is
a contrast between an actual president and a cardboard prop
You know, Trump is aware of what's going on in
the ground.

Speaker 7 (01:22:30):
He actually listens to people, and if you tell him.

Speaker 14 (01:22:32):
Something, he's going to do something about it. For some reason,
he's engaged, whether it's in crime. He'll talk to victims
with immigration, will talk to border agents, he talks to
people in AI. He seems to get a grasp of
almost every issue by talking to the people involved.

Speaker 7 (01:22:46):
But if you were in a disaster or.

Speaker 14 (01:22:48):
A catastrophe, if you were a victim and you went
on any network and you were pleading, it would never
get to Biden. Either he couldn't hear it or he
wouldn't do anything about it. And when you watch Trump
Act signing all these executive orders and attacking every problem,
you just don't.

Speaker 7 (01:23:04):
You don't just see his effectiveness. You realize what was
missing a leader.

Speaker 8 (01:23:10):
We had four.

Speaker 14 (01:23:11):
Years without a leader, and now we're acting like, Wow,
this feels pretty good. It's like it's like having you
Suddenly you're like, oh, now I know what this is like,
this is how it works.

Speaker 8 (01:23:22):
Pretty good.

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
And that is Greg Guttfield talking about all the winning
and that that is why this text is focused like
a laser on something that doesn't matter at all, because
to not focus on that would have to admit that
they are just losing everywhere. They're turning around when we
get back. Okay, so several textures have said, hey, Rick

(01:23:45):
Lewis has covered this age equation thing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
I'm reaching out to Rick right now to.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
See if we'll come on the show and talk about
this because I must find out where this came from,
because I got another text that said that equation has
been around since I.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
Was in high school and I'm sixty. Where did it
come from? All my born days?

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
I had never heard of the girlfriend equation of half
your age plus seven, but apparently everybody on the text
line knew it. And then a bunch of.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
People were like, you know, Rick Lewis talks about this stuff.
He's talked about it for.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
A long time. So we do what we do and
we bring the man himself on the show, Rick Lewis,
everybody from our brother station, the Fox one of three
point five. Rick, how first of all did you know
about this? I've met your wife. You didn't do this?

Speaker 12 (01:24:30):
Well, you're right, although I do have a PhD in
these types of relationship questions. Man, so you called the
right guy. So let me fill you in on this.
And I've been talking about this pretty much my entire career,
and you're right. My wife and I are about the
same age. But I'm not a rich, famous guy right

(01:24:51):
right now. If I was a rich, famous guy, I
could get a much younger wife.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Sure, I'm sure your wife appreciates the sentiment there, Rick, God,
I'm gonna stick with this one because I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Rich and I can't get a younger woman.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
The way to go, Rick lewis.

Speaker 12 (01:25:06):
You know what, And the same is true with my wife.
If she was rich and famous, she could get a
younger guy too. That's how it works. Well, yeah, talks,
money talks. So here's the thing. Back in the day,
and I'm surprised you never heard the equation. No, but
back in the day, it used to be half the
oldest guy's age, usually the guy half the guy's age

(01:25:29):
plus seven Michael Douglas. Think about Michael Douglas. Now, he's
been married to Catherine Zada Jones for a long time. Yeah,
I think he's eighty.

Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
I think she's my age. Yeah, she's I think we
share a birthday. Actually, I think she's also fifty five
now as well.

Speaker 12 (01:25:45):
Yeah, so she's actually a little old for him.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
You know what, though, I mean, you know how it is, Rick,
You get older, you hit seventy five, your testosterone drops.

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
You know, you're just a little.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Less interested than getting out there and katting around. And
let's be real, that guy has had more women than
he should have at this point. So I mean, now
he's just and she's super gorgeous. So now he's like, okay,
this will see me out.

Speaker 12 (01:26:08):
Yeah. No, I think he's fine. He is eighty years old,
although he could go younger if he wanted to. I'm
just saying, yeah, yeah, he could, but ow you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
It's like, ooh, that's every time I see Leonardo DiCaprio
with another nineteen year old woman, I'm just.

Speaker 8 (01:26:23):
Like, oh god, you know, like gross, and I look at.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Him and I just see a manchild who can't grow up.

Speaker 12 (01:26:31):
Well, think about Catherine Zata Jones at fifty five. She
could get a guy in in his early twenties if
she wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Well, but you know what she's got to you know,
I like.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
To think they're one of those couples that are going
to go out, you know, and be married until Michael
Douglas dies, which you know, I'm not saying he's not
buying any green bananas, but he is over eighty.

Speaker 4 (01:26:51):
So now here's I did do a little.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Search on the interwebs and apparently this rule has been
around since nineteen oh one, when French author Max o'rell
leon Paul Blue is his real name in his nineteen
oh one love manual with the incredibly romantic title of
her Royal Highness Woman and his Majesty Cupid.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
He came up with this as that's.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
The age equation to find the perfect age for your
wife back in nineteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Well, if he was.

Speaker 12 (01:27:22):
Alive, he would have to revise that today. Yes, I'll
tell you. I'll tell you who just broke the mold,
Bill Belichick. Right. Bill Belichick is seventy two in half.
That's thirty six minus sevens twenty nine. His girlfriend is
twenty four years old. So Bill Belichick is rewriting that

(01:27:44):
whole book, that whole equation with his girlfriend. Now they're
not married yet.

Speaker 8 (01:27:49):
Yeah, does he have to be married?

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
Rick, what's the biggest spread of ages that you've ever dated?

Speaker 12 (01:27:58):
I usually stuck pretty close to my own age. Honestly.
I think when I was I think the youngest, when
I was about twenty five, I think I dated a
nineteen year old.

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
That's that's that's legiti. No, but that's legit.

Speaker 12 (01:28:13):
I mean that's not a crazy I was like, I'm like,
what am I doing with a nineteen year old? I'm
twenty five? Because you know, when you're in your mid
and late twenties, you think you're starting to get old. Yep,
thirty sex.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
Isn't that adorable? Isn't that adorable?

Speaker 8 (01:28:25):
Now?

Speaker 12 (01:28:26):
It's like, yeah, how about you?

Speaker 8 (01:28:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
No. I when I was nineteen, I dated a guy
relatively briefly. He was forty one, and now here, I'm all,
I'm like a struggling college student and this guy's like, hey,
he was.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
One of my regulars at the restaurant.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
Well it could have been, but I went to an
event for his work and one of the women there
asked me what grade I was in, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Was like, you know what.

Speaker 8 (01:28:49):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
He had never been married, so it wasn't like he
was one of He was basically a man.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
Child as well, super fun and we had a great
time together. But after like four or five days, I
was like, DoD, I can't date you. This is ridiculous.
Like I can't take you home to my dad. That's
not a thing that's going to happen. So we actually
stayed friends, and I actually ended up going to his
wedding to someone else. But yeah, that was the largest
spread that I've ever had in terms of age, and.

Speaker 8 (01:29:16):
I don't regret it.

Speaker 12 (01:29:17):
You he never took you a senior prom.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
Or No, I was already in college.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
But he did show me how a gentleman treats a
lady on a date. And I mean that he was
a great dater. He showed up with flowers, We went
out to night's dinners, he took me to a show.
I mean, he was just he showed me what a
proper date looks like, and for that I'm grateful.

Speaker 12 (01:29:39):
You know, there are women out there that prefer an
older guy. Yeah, and I'm talking you know, like you
said nineteen twenty, a lot of women in their twenties
would prefer a guy mid thirties and forty, just because
they're more established, more.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
You're looking for security, don't you think?

Speaker 12 (01:29:56):
Yes, I do these guys make money?

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Ye?

Speaker 12 (01:30:00):
You know they're not showing up in a cheap car yep,
taking you to RB's for oh no.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
No, even better, let's go get free beer and a
slice of pizza. That's the idea of a college date, right,
That's right. So yeah, an older guy can can definitely
provide a better lifestyle, but ultimately it just comes down
to you, like what do you have in common? And
that was the thing with this guy. I was like,
we really don't have anything in common. We don't share
any music, we don't share pop culture. Pop culture references

(01:30:27):
are really important to me for some reason, Rick, and
I don't know why, Like I want somebody to get
it when I make a Seinfeld joke, you know what
I mean. I don't want to have to explain myself.

Speaker 12 (01:30:36):
Well, you know what's happening now too that I've noticed
is younger guys hitting on older women. Oh yeah, yeah,
my wife got hit on by a thirty five year
old guy two weeks ago. Good for her, and she
told him, she said, I'm married. He goes, yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
I will say that there are the brazen guys that
are actually look for that because they figure it's a
hit it and quit it situation.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
And there'll be no follow up questions, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
So, yeah, that is something that is definitely and I
think older women there's an allure to older women from
younger guys. They figure they're going to be more sexually experienced,
more sexually open. There's all those kind of stereotypes exist.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
And you know what, if it works for you, it
works for you. I just I had never heard this rule.
And when I heard you were an expert.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
I had to bring you on to talk about it,
and you've proven to be an excellent guest on the subject.

Speaker 12 (01:31:29):
Rick Lewis, Well, you're welcome. You're welcome. Maybe in any
time you need be your official relationship expert. Thank you
with an honorary PhD.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Excellently.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
All right, Rick Lewis, you can hear them on Morning
Drive on our friends over at the Fox one or
three point five.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
Talk to you later, my friend.

Speaker 12 (01:31:48):
Okay, all right, that is uh, now we know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
I just i'd never heard that before. Okay, a couple
of things. I got a lot of stuff on the
blog today that you really have to see.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
You guys. I'm not saying I would vote for John Fetterman,
but I am getting closer to saying I would vote
for John Fetterman. And if you want to know why
do I still have my audio grant, let me play
this little snippet of John Fetterman on the View. Now,
we all know the political leanings of the women on

(01:32:18):
the View, and he is a Democrat, so you would
think that this would just be like a love vest.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Well, let me share this exchange with you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
Sonny Austin and John Fetterman on well Law fair Well.

Speaker 15 (01:32:32):
Senator Trump's pardoning of roughly fifteen hundred January sixth rioters
on his first day back in office office is still riverbrating.
And when we last spoke with you in December, you
were critical of Joe Biden having just pardoned.

Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
His son Hunter. So although President Trump ran on.

Speaker 15 (01:32:50):
Doing this, there was a discrepancy in a lot of
people in his inner circle said he wouldn't do it
for violent offenders, So there was some surprise in what
he ended up doing.

Speaker 16 (01:32:59):
Of course, I'm on record criticizing going after Hunter Biden,
and I also agreed that the trial in this city
in New York was politically motivated that wouldn't otherwise have
been prosecuted if it was someone else. And I've been
very front and center in pardons. You know, I shared
that process in Pennsylvania. You know, I was all about

(01:33:21):
delivering second chances, and I'm very proud of that. And
I think that's really the cornerstone of criminal justice reform
is is if you are following the rules and you've
paid your debt, I do believe you do to believe
there needs to be a path for redemption, and this process,
you know, whether Joe Biden or whether President Trump. You know,
I don't agree with many of those parts, especially on

(01:33:42):
the J six ones. And I've called that out. I've
been on record saying that that's just not true. If
you are going to abuse the process, you know, somebody
that's been very committed as part of that has made
that part of my career.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
I think it's sad because it's.

Speaker 16 (01:33:57):
Been politicized, and I think, if anything, that might have
set some things back because people assume, now, you know,
depending on what teams in office, you know, those are
the people that get some redemption.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
I just just for qualification.

Speaker 9 (01:34:10):
Did you mean that the thirty four count case in
which Donald Trump was found guilty of various financial crimes
was politically motivated?

Speaker 16 (01:34:21):
Here I found that when the judicial system gets weaponized
and targeted political enemies for political gain, I think that's inappropriate,
and I think that degrades our collective trust and in
this very important institution, whether that's on a democratic going
after republican or a republican going after a democratic one.
And I like to think I call it strikes and balls.

(01:34:44):
Because the judicion a system has to remain impartial. I
mean that's really the cornerstone of our society.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Would that.

Speaker 8 (01:34:54):
Be the way the things worked? Wouldn't that be great
if that's the way the things actually work.

Speaker 5 (01:34:58):
So basically, whoop these like, Yeah, Trump's right, that's what
he just said. No, I want to play this because
John Fetterman is right.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
I have friends on the left that are outraged by
the January sixth pardons, outraged, and for Sarah whatever her
name was.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
On the view to say it's still reverberating, it's really not.

Speaker 5 (01:35:21):
H most of America has moved on because everything that's
happened since then has been so significant, So most of
America's moved on. It's not still reverberating. But the same
people who are furious about the Jay six pardons had
nothing to say about unprecedented pardons of family members of
the president before.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
He left office.

Speaker 5 (01:35:40):
When it comes to Biden, at least, John Fetterman is consistent.
He is incredibly consistent on this point. My thing about
the presidential pardons is this, if you don't like it,
if you feel like the system is being abused, then
change the system. A lot is being made of the
people being fired by the Trump administration, and he just

(01:36:01):
fired a bunch of people at Justice that were involved
directly with prosecuting him, and the Acting ag said, yeah,
we don't think that these people can impartially execute the
vision of the Trump administration considering their role in investigating
the president. I think that's a very solid thing to think.

(01:36:22):
But all of these people are freaking out because people.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
Are being fired, and this is all allowed.

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
If you don't like the system, change it, but don't
get mad when someone uses the system.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
To their own game. But they'll never change it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
By the way, they'll never change the power of the
presidency as it is right now because both parties benefit
from it when they're in office, and they know it.
It would be cutting off their noses despite their faces. Mandy,
the Stroke must have got his head on straight. You
can tell he still has some issues with the vocabulary part.

(01:36:56):
You can tell he gets a little hung up on that,
but it's very clear when.

Speaker 11 (01:37:00):
He's saying, yeah, I mean, that's the most competent I've
ever heard him talk.

Speaker 5 (01:37:03):
He's been really strong as of late on Israel on
so many different issues where he has not just broken
from the Democratic Party dogma, he broke from the democratic
guy and then burned the bridge between the Democrats and himself.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
On whatever issue that is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
But I would never say, oh, you've been red piled.
He's a Republican, He's still very liberal.

Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
I just like someone that can see both sides of ants.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
That is definitely appealing.

Speaker 7 (01:37:31):
Does he still wear hoodies?

Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
And oh god, yes, I mean he wore a hoodie
and shorts to the inauguration. And I'm like, you know, John,
I appreciate your doing you, but I don't like that.

Speaker 7 (01:37:44):
I do not like that at all.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
None of that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
I got a bunch of other stuff on the blog
today that you really should go see. I've got great videos,
lots of fun stuff, and the funniest of all is
a list of fake executive orders by Trump. It is
I can't play it for you because it's got one
VS word in it, but it is hilarious. Okay, presidents

(01:38:12):
signed this one. White people can say the N word
once per month. They have to be near a black friend.
I mean, it's all. It's so ridiculous and so funny.
And they took video of Trump's signing executive orders and
making comments on it, and it's just it's ai. It's deep.
It's freaking hysterical. So that's on the blog today and
you're welcome. And then I've just got a bunch of

(01:38:34):
really good information on the blog today that you need
to see that we went over earlier in the show.

Speaker 8 (01:38:39):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:38:40):
Fetterman just acted stupid during his campaign, so we'd be
more like the people.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
Who voted for him. Haha, he was eating No.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
No. Anyway, all right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
We've got Weather Wednesday coming on tomorrow at twelve thirty,
and I'm going to ask Dave Frasier the question he
always loves.

Speaker 8 (01:39:02):
David.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
We can have snow in April, but there's a reason
for it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
We also, I think we're gonna have Jimmy Seenberger to
break down what's happening in Jefferson County.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Jefferson County schools. When I first moved.

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
Here, they had a conservative majority on the board and
everything was fine. Since then, things went in a different direction.
All right, we are going to turn the station over
here in just a few minutes. Two KAA Sports who
are sitting in the delightful Sam's Number three in Glendale, Colorado,

(01:39:35):
Right now, Ryan.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
Edwards, are you with me?

Speaker 8 (01:39:38):
Oh it's not Ryan. Oh god, I teleported to Sam's.

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
Okay, so you're playing too.

Speaker 8 (01:39:45):
I am not just me, all right's me? I'm just me.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
I'm playing And yeah, I'm not waiting till the end
of the question.

Speaker 8 (01:39:55):
Here today, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
No, you won't get to make the rules when you're when.

Speaker 8 (01:39:59):
You're to play. And I'm awful with this. You'll okay, okay,
what you'll still.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
Be And now it's time for the most exciting segment
on the radio of its kind.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
And though.

Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
Not as good as Ryan does.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
But I'll accept it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:15):
It is acceptable.

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
What is our dad joke of.

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
The day please?

Speaker 7 (01:40:18):
Seems like no delay there to me.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
I don't know about I think so too.

Speaker 5 (01:40:21):
I'm just trying to not know.

Speaker 8 (01:40:22):
I know the game I made sure I started talking.

Speaker 11 (01:40:25):
Yeah, dad joke. When I was young, I was scared
of the dark. Now when I see my electric bill,
I'm scared of the lights. That's too real, though, it's
too real. Yeah, what is our word of the day please?

Speaker 7 (01:40:40):
Word of the day?

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
Sword s W A r D.

Speaker 8 (01:40:45):
It is a noun. Is the name of someone that
really really wanted to sound cool like a sword that
had to spell a little differently.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Guess I would think it's something on a ship, an.

Speaker 7 (01:40:59):
Old wooden ship.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
What.

Speaker 11 (01:41:02):
No, it is a literary word that refers to an
area of land covered with grass.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
Of course. The sword, the sword.

Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
I was just sitting on the sword the other day,
just sitting on it. Anyway, What is our trivia question?

Speaker 12 (01:41:16):
I'll show you here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
What is the national anthem of Turkey?

Speaker 8 (01:41:23):
Yeah, the national anthem of Turkey.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
If you don't know, you don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
In nineteen twenty one, Turkey held a competition to establish
the lyrics of the national anthem, the March of Independence,
known as Al Marcy in Turkey.

Speaker 11 (01:41:36):
I won't throw off our segment here, but I hear
there's some pretty crazy stuff going on over there.

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
Oh yeah, just a little bit, just a little bit. Okay,
all right, here we go. What is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
Well, Jeopardy category for today.

Speaker 11 (01:41:50):
National sounding items, National sounding additional sounding items. Okay, before
getting stranded and castaway, Tom Hanks gives hell.

Speaker 8 (01:42:00):
Hunt, Hey, Rod, I'm gonna go with the Wilson BALLT. No,
that's not sounding damn it. I don't know. Go and
finish that question.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
For me grants, Oregon straight and cast away.

Speaker 11 (01:42:11):
Tom Hanks gives Helen Hunt one of these helpful gadgets
right off his keychain.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Mandy, what is a compass?

Speaker 7 (01:42:18):
Incorrect?

Speaker 8 (01:42:19):
Come on?

Speaker 7 (01:42:20):
A Swiss army knife?

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:42:22):
Shoot, national sounding item?

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
Oh got it?

Speaker 12 (01:42:26):
National?

Speaker 7 (01:42:27):
Got it?

Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:42:28):
Okay, here we go, Comrade, this gift is like an
onion that has many layers.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
Comrade, mm hmm many items.

Speaker 8 (01:42:40):
I'm stand fad, I got nothing, Mandy?

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
What is a Russian nesting doll?

Speaker 12 (01:42:44):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:42:45):
Zero? Wait?

Speaker 4 (01:42:47):
How is that Russian nesting doll? National nesting doll?

Speaker 7 (01:42:52):
National sounding?

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
It's a national nation sounding item? Audible, Swiss army knife,
Russian nesting dolls, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 8 (01:43:01):
Here we go, sound adible?

Speaker 7 (01:43:04):
Go ahead.

Speaker 11 (01:43:05):
In twenty twenty, I Kia did right by releasing the recipe, Mandy,
I have to wait till the end these bite sized
bits of globular goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:43:15):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
What are Swedish meatballs?

Speaker 7 (01:43:17):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:43:19):
Rod, you ready to get back there?

Speaker 12 (01:43:21):
What you know here?

Speaker 8 (01:43:23):
Trying efforting this?

Speaker 7 (01:43:24):
Three M grease and stain repellent needs no kilt.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
Nail mailch three M grease and I don't know what
is Scotch guard.

Speaker 7 (01:43:37):
Oh yea category.

Speaker 11 (01:43:39):
Anyways, this fancy sleeve and doubles or sorry, this fancy
sleeve in doubles back on itself and shoot instead of buttons.

Speaker 8 (01:43:50):
That's the minus point earlier ago, No I came, what.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
Is a French cuff?

Speaker 8 (01:43:55):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
There we go? Did I win with that one?

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:43:59):
Thank god you work with You hit the net twice.
That is a point. So I'm going to say that
it was a tie.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
That is wrong, But that's okay.

Speaker 8 (01:44:07):
My buddy Ryan's are next to me. He's got Dave Logan,
Nick Ferguson on the show today. Here at Sam's number three.
They're also going to have team president of the Denver
Broncos Domani Leach Nice and then all Bright it here
will make an appearance as well. So that's Glendale.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Sam's number three and Glendale will be back tomorrow. Keep
it on, Kowa,