02-06-25 FULL SHOW - Latest on Colorado's Crazy New Gun Control Bill

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thursday edition of the show. I'm your host for the
next three hours, Mandy Connell, and we have a whole
bunch of stuff to talk about. Oh boy, more things
are happening. We've got Well, let me just tell you
what's on the blog. I'm here, Zach Seegers as Hers.
We're now calling in on track Zach because his job
is to keep me on track, and that, my friends,
requires a herculean effort.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh for three, looking.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
For one for four?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know, I want to end the week on a positive.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now, there you go, because a Rod will be back tomorrow.
We are going to talk to a Rod in a
little bit. His last hit from New Orleans. I know
he was excited because he got to see the artists
that are performing close up last night, so he's all
excited about that. So we're gonna talk to him in
a bit. Then let me tell you what's on the blog,
because we've got some like there's some deep stories to
go into today and I only have three hours, so
it's going to be.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
A busy show.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's
mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says two
six twenty five blog. Leland Conway is on to talk
about the awful gun bill. Click on that and here
are the headline you will find within.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I think wants to.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Listening off with half of American all with ships and
cuipments and say that's a press plans.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Today on the blog there is a rally this Saturday
about the horrible gun bill? Does the GOP even care
about this issue? Trump is going to be at the
super Bowl And here I thought words were violence. The
Democrats price gouging bill is a mess. Let's make Colorado
great again. Mayor Mike Johnson is heading to d C.
Scrolling That time Diviiden admin paid for bad press on Trump?

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Scrolling scrolling scroll links. Okay, that time Ran Paul tried
to do oversight on USAID scroll linked. John a Democrat,
tries to impeach Trump. The Marines keep their books well.
Things to know about the King's super strike. The housing
market is poised for a busy spring. Colorado wants the
Sundance Film Festival. Governor Polis can fix the Army's mistake.

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Republican lawmakers trying to fix our sanctuary state. The unedited
interview with Kamala Harris's what does this mean for Denver
leadership matters? So you're saying there isn't a chance. Why
did the military give a woman special treatment? Leanne Morgan,
I'm Jimmy Kimmel. British high schoolers, try Taco Bell, advice
for your younger self, and the reason your wife is

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always right.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Those are the.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Headlines on the blog at nandy'sblog dot com. And We've
got some really good stuff on the blog today. I'm
just gonna start here. So yesterday I went to reach
in Revolution to do a couple of things to my face.
I did the m phase program to get rid of
the I don't like the idea of botox, and I

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know that all women my age are supposed to have
a baby but smooth skin on their forehead because of botox,
But I have never been comfortable with the idea of
shooting basulism into my face. I call me crazy, right.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I know everybody does it, and I'm not judging by
the way. I'm not judging about anything that other people
do to their face. You do you, I do me.
It's just a free society. I love it here. But
that being said, they have the same m face. The
point of this story is not to tell you all that,
but I was laying there having my face sapped, because
that's what it is. They shoot electrical. It's amazing. Anyway,

(03:14):
I'm laying there on my back getting my face sapped,
and I see on X that Kamala Harris's unedited interview
with sixty minutes is out, so I got like twenty minutes, Like, okay,
I'll dip in.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
You guys.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean, the phrase holy cowie dodged a bullet really
really applies here. And I hope that Democrats go back
and watch this interview because this is the woman that
the Democratic elite thrust upon the Democratic voters. This is
the option that they gave them. And if I were

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a Democrat, if I watched this interview, I would be incensed,
absolutely furious that this decision was made without a primary.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I mean, oh my goodness, it was.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
It was definitely interesting, and I thought about this morning.
I was like, should I grab some of the worst
words solid answers, But I thought, no, you know what,
I'm gonna make it available for you. But I'm afraid
that if I played it on the radio, anyone that
listened like there IQ would drop and I don't think
we can afford to lose any IQ points right now.

(04:27):
So I just it's just as bad as you thought
it was going to be, but even worse. This is
really the worst part about this is that you realize
how much CBS News absolutely did her a solid because
they edited her to make her not look like an idiot,
and in her answers, her rambling, meandering answers, she looks

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like an idiot. It's bad. And then just for fun,
just for fun. This morning, I went back again and
I watched Donald Trump at the press conference with Benjamin
and Yahoo, and the difference between Donald Trump's command of
what he's doing. Now, do get me wrong. He says
things like We're going to take over Gaza. I don't

(05:13):
and all believe he's going to take over Gaza. And
I said this to a friend of mine last night.
I said, Look, here's the thing. If you pay attention
to what Donald Trump does, he starts out with the
worst possible scenario. And if you're Donald Trump and you
want the Middle Eastern countries around Israel to rebuild the
Gaza strip, which is what should happen, it should not
be our responsibility. It should be Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt.

(05:36):
They should take care of this. And if you want
them on board, the best way to do that is
to threaten to do it yourself, you know what I mean.
It's like, oh yeah, oh yeah, I'll do it, and
then they're all like, no, no, no, no, we'll take
care of it. It's just it's everything with him is
a negotiating tactic. Everything. I'm honestly like, I want to

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tell people. Whatever he says on the first day, just
wait and before you say, well, that's insane, he should No, No,
It's all a negotiating tactic. Every part of it is
a negotiating tactic. I mean, come on, So yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Play it.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Plays no seriously, text her. I know it's on the blog.
The full thing is on the blog. You can go
watch it. By the way, we find out right in
the beginning she's allergic to mold. Allergy to nothing else
but mold, and mold is really high today, so she's
sniffle suit the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
After watching that interview, I can't figure out how she
gets dressed in the morning. I think that's why she
wears outfits that are all the same color. You know,
she's always a monochrome, right, It's almost like she's got
gor animals in her closet. And that do you get
the gr animal joke, Zach, because you're young, do you
even know what a gr animal is?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
When I was a kid, somebody came out It was
really genius. Somebody came out with this thought that you
could tag certain shirts and certain pants in the kids department,
and if you saw a zebra, you knew that it
went with this other pair of pants that was also
a zebra, so you could make an outfit matching up
the animals.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
And that was the goer animals.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh, it's see exactly is a smart idea, but uh,
it's wow. It just was really bad. Mandy too late.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I watched the.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Harris interview last night after my pupsigility class, and I
needed a whiskey during and after that from Colorado Springs.
You know what, you shouldn't need a whiskey because she
is no longer our problem. I'm gonna put her odds
at getting the Democratic nomination in twenty twenty eight at
a solid zero zero percent. That's what I'm going with

(07:38):
I'm gonna stick with it because even at this point,
Democrats have realized she was a lousy candidate. Lowsy. Oh
my god, Texter, somebody just texted this. And before you
accuse me of having a cocaine problem, let me be
clear that my cocaine nipples sniffles are called the mold.

(08:01):
You're Frank Kabla. I wasn't even gonna say that she
had a cocaine problem. I mean she has other issues.
To be sure, this text or why she lost simple
she was singularly the worst candidate in history of candidates.
Not for one moment did I see how she could
possibly win. So there you go. Let's see to know

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what you talk about today. But why do black women
get their own beauty pageant? Isn't that racist?

Speaker 5 (08:32):
See?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't care about that. I think you should be
able to have white people only beauty pageants. I don't care.
Doesn't make any difference to me if black folks want
to have their own beauty pageant.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
There's plenty of beauty pageants for everyone, although they did
ruin Miss America.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
So what are you gonna do? Mandy?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Here's my favorite usaid expenditure so far eight million dollars
to study the effects of flavored cigarettes on bisexuals and lesbians. Oh,
there's a whole bunch of them, there isn't there. And
that's one of the things that we're going to talk
about today.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
The world is.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Changing. I think what's happening right now. And maybe I'm
being hopeful, maybe I'm being Pollyanna, maybe I'm being wishful.
I don't know, but what I think we're seeing right
now is a red pilling of America on a massive
epic scale. Because what's happening right now with the information

(09:28):
that is coming out about the insanely wasteful and ridiculous
spending that has been going on in the government. As
they are spending so much money that it's creating inflation
because the fan is printing money so the government can
keep spending money on this stuff, all of a sudden,
all these people that have never paid attention to the
US budget before in their lives are all now taking

(09:51):
to TikTok and Twitter and other social media platforms to
express their outrage at what this money is being spent on.
I'm telling you, you guys, this what's happened in the
last two weeks could be the most significant shift in
American politics in the modern era. And I don't know
if that's good or bad, but we may have a
populist uprising of massive proportions and Democrats took the bait.

(10:16):
I truly believe. And I said it yesterday and I
mean this. I said it to another friend of my
last night who's on the left. He made a comment about, Oh,
I don't know if Donald Trump's smart enough to do
all this stuff, and I was like, do not underestimate
Donald Trump's intelligence. Do not, because I think that you know,
though he has moral failings as a human being, I

(10:39):
don't question his intelligence. I think he's incredibly smart, and
knowing that, I think his emotional IQ, his ability to
read other people is probably way higher than most people.
Because I think that he had Elon Musk go directly
at USAID because he knew that it was full of

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left wing fever dream clap trap that the American people
would be appalled by. And he also knew that because
he was talking about shutting down an entire agency, that
the Democrats would freak out. And now they've put themselves
in a position where they are defending an organization that
spent eight million dollars to study the effect of flavored

(11:23):
cigarettes on bisexuals and lesbians. And you know what, when
you're talking about federal budgets, eight million dollars is literally nothing.
But Zach, if I came to you and said, Zach,
I'd like to give you eight million dollars, yes please.
First of all, that would be the last we would see.
If Zach you're at the radio station, he would leave.
It would make those little cartoon feet noises just getting

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out of here with a check for eight million dollars.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
She's still spending. But for most.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Americans, eight million dollars is a ton of money. It's
a I mean, you can almost buy a dozen eggs
for that. That was my head joke for the day.
Thank you. And so I think normal rational people out
in flyover country are appalled by what they're hearing, but
it goes well, well beyond that, I mean, well beyond that.

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First of all, I want to find hang on one second.
This Michael Schellenberger story that I have because it is
Michael Schellenberger is a guy who wrote San Francisco. I've
interviewed him on the show. He now has an organization
called public dot com where he and other journalists are
writing about stuff that no one else will write about it.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
So listen to this.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
And this is convoluted, and I'm going to try and
streamline it as much as I can. Okay, but you
can go and I have a link to his post
so you can read it all. I actually subscribe to
public dot com today because I wanted to read the
rest of this. But it goes like this. We all
know that the House of Representatives impeach Donald Trump in
twenty nineteen over a phone call that he allegedly made

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to the President of Ukraine threatening to withhold military aid
unless they dug up dirt and investigated Hunter Biden and
Joe Biden and their connection to Ukrainian oligarchs. Okay, we
all know that's why he was impeached. Well, the reason
the complaint got started a whistleblower claimed to have heard
from White House staff that Trump had on a phone

(13:18):
call directed the President Zelensky to work with Ruby Giuliani
to investigate Hunter and Joe. That whistleblower happened to be
a CIA analyst who had been brought into the White
House by the Obama administration. So the CIA analyst relied
on reporting by an organization that was supposedly an independent

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investigative news organization called the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project.
Now that sounds good. Organized Crime Crush for Reporting Project, Okay, great, ACCEPTCCC.
The occ RP, as it's known, was actually funded by
none other than USAID. A USAID or executive said that

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not only did USAID fund OCCRP, they also had say
and who would hold editorial positions and positions of management.
They had to have their resumes submitted directly to USAID. Now,
OCCRP does not operate like a normal investigative journalism organization
in that its goals appear to include interfering in foreign

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political matters, including elections aimed at regime change. One member
of USAID said his organization had probably a no of
OCCRP of the news organization said his organization had probably
been responsible for five or six countries changing over from
one government to another government and getting prime ministers indicted

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or thrown out. So let's review. We have USAID giving
money to this supposed independent journalist organization. That organization publishes
a report that alleges these things, and the whistleblower, by
the way, reference to their report four times in his
whistleblower report, so it would appear to me and others,

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and there's a lot more to the story. It's so convoluted,
there's a lot of initials, so I don't want to
try and go through it on the radio. But it
does sort of create the question that if that's what
they're doing in other nations, designed to destabilize prime ministers
to get them indicted or thrown out, why shouldn't we
believe that they were doing the same thing at the

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behest of the CIA to target Donald Trump and his
administration in twenty nineteen to make sure he did not
get re elected. I mean, it also sounds very treasonous
to me, and I use that word purposefully because if
you have members of the CIA or even USAID working

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with an organization who released the reports that was then
used as the basis for an impeachment right before an election,
doesn't synct to high Heaven?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Or is it just me?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
The worst part about this is none of this is surprising.
That's the sad part. I wish it was surprising. I
wish that I could say, I, oh, it's public dot News.
Thank you, Texter. Public dot News is the website. I
wish that I could say I didn't believe this, but
holy cow, this kind of stuff, the kind of stuff,

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this is why Trump is doing what he's doing. This
is why he's gone scorched to earth. This is why
he's going after every loyalist to different administrations that work
tirelessly during his first administration to prevent him from getting
his agenda through. And they did a great job. I mean,
what do you remember about the Trump administration? You remember

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about tax cuts? There you go, and you're about impeachment, investigation,
Russian collusion, all of which turned into be a big
fat nothing burger. They did a great job. Only now
it doesn't work. Yesterday a Democrat got up and said
he was gonna file articles of impeachment. They'll go nowhere
in a Republican controlled House of Representatives. But I thought

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to myself, they still they don't understand. They really don't
get it. They're fighting the battle of twenty sixteen, but
we've moved on. We're in twenty twenty five. They got
to get it together or they're not going to be
a functioning party. Mandy Trump was president at that time.
Didn't he have any say in the issue. You would
think so, But this is how the bureaucracy works. By

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the way, I have another video on the blog today,
one of my favorites, Ran Paul.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know I love Ran Paul.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
This was from let Me See Her twenty twenty three.
I believe April of twenty twenty three. Ran Paul grilling
Samantha Powers because Samantha Powers was the former UN ambassador
under Obama and so she just cycled over to USAID
to run that department when when she left. When I

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get back, I'm going to wait when I get back,
because I got to take a break. I'm going to
tell you about why it was ridiculous for you to
think the president could have any say in what this
organization does, because they don't think they deserve any oversight
at all.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
We'll do that next.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I want to play for you. Can I my audio
on my computer?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Please?

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Zac.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
This is an exchange that occurred, and this goes on
continuing the conversation about us AID and why the agency
needs to go if you just joined us Oh boy,
lots of corruption and it appears from the outside looking
in that they funded a news organization that did a
story that was then used as the basis for the

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impeachment of Donald Trump conveniently forwarded them in a report
by a CIA analyst.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
So we'll play this.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
This is the now former head of USA. She has
been released from her duties. I have that on the video,
or I have that video from X as well. She
posted a video about being canned. But I want you
to listen to this exchange. This is Senator Ran Paul
talking to the head of USAID, Samantha Powers, former UN
Ambassador under Obama, about trying to get information about what

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exactly they had funded when it came to coronavirus research
with the Wuhan Labs.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
AID fund coronavirus research in Wuhan, Chinam.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
We did not fund gain a function.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
Right now, and the question is did you fund coronavirus
research in Wuhan Chinam.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Before my time, there was the predict program with which
you're familiar, which ended in China in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
This is a two hundred million dollar program and the
GAO has also identified that some of these grants went
directly to the Wuhan Institute to Virology, where there is
a suspicion that the lat League began that began the pandemic.
Has USAID awarded funds to the Academy of Military Medical Sciences.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Are not to my knowledge, but I'd have to get
I think.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
The answer is once again yes, Jo has found that
there have been sub awards, So NIH money is probably
as well as USAID money that went to the Academy
of not just medical research, military medical.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Research in China.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
Now part of the unknowns here is we can't get
the records to look at this. So I've been asking
for months and months for records. In September of last year,
I wrote Mispowers the USAID a request asking for records
from the PREDICT program.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
These are not classified.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
These are simply records of scientific research, and we want
to read the grants to find out what they were
doing and whether the research was dangerous or not. The
response I got from your agency was USAID will not
be providing any document, said this time, they're just unwilling
to give documents on scientific grant reposal.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
We're paying for it.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
They're asking for seven hundred and forty five million dollars
more in money, and we get no response.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
And I'm gonna stop in there because it just goes
downhill from there. But it shows you how the people
running US did not feel like they had any responsibilities
to anyone else, and certainly not to a sitting US
senator who had the nerve to ask if we actually
funded the research that created a worldwide pandemic that killed

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twenty two million people. God forbid, we actually asked that
question text US on the Common Spirit health text line.
It's already very active today, and I'm fine with that, Mandy.
Some may consider it a minor point, but I think
we should refer to the US States Agency for International Development,
formed in nineteen sixty one as us AID in short,

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instead of us AID. What do you think? And that
is that is rather nitpicky. The problem with this program
as it was created back in nineteen sixty one is
that there were no guardrails put on it at all,
and that's evidenced by what they're spending money on it
on now. I mean, do you think supporting, you know,
transgender children in a foreign country where perhaps they aren't

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as accepted is a good expenditure of American funds. It
may be a worthy cause, but not for Americans to
be footing the bill while we're watching prices go up
twenty percent because of inflation, because they're squandering all this money.
So yeah, Ram Paul went on to do that. Now,
as I said, Samantha Powers has been relieved of her duties, and.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
I just think that.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
This is the absolute best possible place that the Trump
administration could have started with Joje. Have you guys seen this.
I have a lot of people. I have a lot
of people on the left on my Facebook page, not
my work face, but my personal friends, and I have
a lot of people on the left, and they're all

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freaking out, and they're all saying some variation of you're
okay with Elon Musk and six guys having access to
all of our data and the Treasury. You didn't vote
for him, And I've just been responding back. I didn't
vote for any of the bureaucrats who work at the Treasury.
I didn't vote for any of the bureaucrats who work
at USAID. I didn't vote for any of the bureaucrats

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who have been squandering our money on pet projects and
destabilization of other regimes. And I'm beginning to think that
USAID really is just a front for the CIA at
this point. Good Gravy Mandy just wondering he was in

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charge of USAID when Trump was in office in his
first term.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't know, but I retweeted something I saw on
I'm gonna call it Twitter till the day I die.
I'm just I can't you, guys, when I say X,
it makes it sound like I'm doing a math equation
or I can't remember the name of something, you know.
So I'm just gonna call it Twitter, and we're just
gonna have to be okay with it. So I retweeted
something on Twitter where someone said, oh, yes, I'd like
to know the Republicans who have drifted off USAID for years.

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I'd like to know every single one of them. I'd
like to know any Republican that in any way helped
or enriched themselves or someone else using USA AID funds.
I'd like to know all of them. And this is
the first This is just the first department, you guys.
They haven't even got with a Pentagon yet. The Pentagon
could not find eight hundred and sixty plus billion dollars

(24:39):
in the last audit. Now I realize that's like couch
money for some people, you know, like you know, you
sit down, Zach. When you were a kid, did you
ever look for couch money?

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Was that a thing?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I mean, people had already moved to debit cards and
stuff by the time you were a kid, right.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
Yeah, I think there was probably less couch money juice
for that squeeze, but I would do it.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Couch money was how I pay for gas a lot,
and I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I would dig for couch money at other people's houses.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And my logic was this, if they're not looking for it,
I'm gonna look for it for them. And most of
the time it was because I was driving and they
were given me gas money. I don't feel bad about
that when they asked says this text, or if you're
okay with Elon, ask them why they were okay not
knowing who was running our country for the last four years.
I actually used that. I was listening to Ryan Schuling

(25:26):
show on k HOW as I do sometimes when I'm
driving home, and he was making the point at that
very same point, It's like, you know, people are upset
about us having people that you didn't elect.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Having the levers of power.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
First of all, who do you think runs the levers
of power normally, but more importantly, any Democrat who says, oh,
I'm just so concerned, Well, you weren't concerned when we
had a vegetable in the White House, were you? And
no offense to vegetables.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I love vegetables.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
So the only good news that I got out of
DC in the last twenty four hours comes from the
United States Marine Corps. May I have my audio one
more time? Please, Zach all right, listen.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
To this.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Marines and civilian teammates.

Speaker 9 (26:13):
I'm here with Lieutenant General Adams, our Deputy Commandant for
Programs and Resources, also.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Known as the money Guy.

Speaker 9 (26:19):
We want to commend you and thank you again for
your hard work in achieving our second annual clean audit.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
In fiscal year twenty twenty four.

Speaker 9 (26:26):
The Marine Corps was the first service to pass the
Department of Defense annual Audit and fiscal year twenty twenty three,
and now the first service to accomplish this momentous.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Seat two years in a row.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
This is history in the making.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Now I'm going to stop in there. He goes on
and talks about it everything but the US Marine Corps.
They managed to account for all of their money that
they spent. Seems like other departments could do.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
The same thing.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
When we get back, I'm not going to talk about
this the whole show, because they got a bunch of
guests coming up in the next hour. We got stuff
other things to talk about. But when we get back,
I want to talk about what a lot of Americans
are just now as why we don't do it. I've
seen it all over X and I will tell you
I've been a deficit hawk for pretty much my adult life.

(27:08):
When I got my first show in two thousand and five,
I started talking about the deficit right then, and it
was a fraction of what it is now. So when
I see people on social media freaking out about how
their money is being squandered, it warms my heart and
tickles my toes. I'm going to tell you about baseline

(27:29):
budgeting and why it would be the best way to
solve these problems. When we get back, friend, we're going
to wrap up this conversation about the budget in US
eight and what Elon Musk is doing with a simple

(27:49):
lesson about budgeting. If you want to know how our
budget has gotten so out of control and we have
so much crap and garbage in our budget. It's a
little nifty trick called base line budgeting. Now many of
you probably already know what baseline budgeting is, but I'm
gonna assume that you don't, and I'm gonna make it real,
real simple baseline budgeting. It simply says, let's just say

(28:11):
my budget, the Mandy Condal budget for this year is
a million dollars. Now, just to be clear, that is
a completely fabricated number, and my budget is not remotely
that big ever, But just for nice round numbers, it's
a million dollars. Baseline budgeting. The next year comes back
and says, well, let's start with a million dollars and
then what else are you gonna need. Let's just add

(28:33):
to it, right, that's baseline budgeting. Zero based budgeting is
where every year you have to justify every line item.
You start with zero again, and you got to say,
like in the Mandy Condal budget, I'm gonna need five
hundred thousand dollars for a new Bentley. Uh, next year,
I'm not gonna need that five hundred thousand dollars, so

(28:54):
we can take that out of the budget. But I said,
I'm gonna have to maintenance for the Bentley, so you
put that back in the budget. It is cumbersome, it
is difficult, and it is what the federal government needs
to do because this is what they do instead. And
this is a perfect analogy from citizens against government waste.
I saw this a long time ago, and it stuck
with me and I just found it. Baseline budgeting works

(29:17):
like this. It tilts the budget process in favor of
increased spending in taxes. For example, if an agency's budget
is projected to grow by one hundred million but only
grows by seventy five million according to baseline budget, that
agency sustained a twenty five million dollar cut. Now what

(29:39):
actually happened was that we're now spending seventy five million
dollars more on that agency. That is analogous to a
person who expects to gain one hundred pounds only gaining
seventy five pounds and taking credit for losing twenty five pounds.
The federal government is the only place that this logic

(30:01):
is employed that I'm aware of. So wherever people talk
about cutting spending, they're not talking about cutting spending. They're
talking about cutting the growth of spending, and they want
credit for the quote cut that never actually occurred. I
have a video on the blog today that is totally unrelated.
It's a comedian. He's very funny. It's a guy who

(30:22):
has a whole logic graphic of why your wife is
always right. But then he goes on and he does
what has now become known as girl math right where
you go in to buy something and it's on sale
for five hundred dollars and you're like, look, I got
this for five hundred dollars. In your spouse is you
spent five hundred bucks? I'm like, no, I saved five

(30:42):
hundred dollars because it was one thousand dollars, So I
saved five hundred dollars. Well, you already spent five hundred,
but I saved you focus on the savings. It's absurd,
but it's exactly the same.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Zero based budgeting will never voluntarily be adopted by Washington DC.
They'll tell you it cannot be done. It is too
it's too cumbersome. It would create huge problems for organizations.
While I say I don't care, I don't care organizations.

(31:15):
Every department in the federal government should have to justify
its expenditures, and some of them would be really easy.
Some of them, you go, okay, Social Security, go ahead
and justify. You're like, well we keep people who are
disabled and elderly people from falling into poverty. They're like, okay,
check Mark, you can go. You know, it's like some
of it should be fairly straightforward. And here's the best part.

(31:36):
I don't care if you have to hire a special
department in your business, Like if Health and Human Services
has to hire a budget office where all they do
is get the budget ready for next year with that
zero maan, I don't care because I guarantee we would
save money. One of the things that I would love

(31:56):
to see dogs do going forward, and DOGE isn't doing
any this, by the way. I mean, it's all gonna
have to be either godified by Congress or any of
that stuff. What I'd love to see is an incentive
for government employees to report government waste and fraud. Like

(32:16):
if you know that there's some bs crap thing going
out that costs seven million dollars, and you're like, you
know what, this is a bs crap thing. We don't
even need this. It's going to corrupt people, it's going
to our enemies. If you blow the whistle on that.
I'm gonna give you ten percent. That's that's that's a
lot of money that you can earn simply by ratting

(32:37):
out waste, broad and abuse. Because until you get the
people that work in the government invested in making it
smaller and more efficient and run better and spend less money,
you're never going to have long term success. So you've
got to bring them into the fold. You got to
get most of the you know, you got to get
the people who are actively working against the president out.
And by the way, that should be no or who

(33:00):
is president. If you don't want to work for the
administration because you disagree politically, go get yourself another job.
I do not think that federal government employees, entirely unelected bureaucrats,
should be making decisions about whether or not policy positions
are executed or not. And that's what's happening now. So
there you go. That is that for today. When we

(33:22):
get back coming up, Leland Conway is going to stop by.
He was on last week to talk about testifying about.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
This awful gun bill.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well, of course it passed out of committee, and now
there's a rally on Saturday. It's going to be fun
though not like a boring rally like yesterday's Downtown rally
was a fun rally about it. He's going to tell
you about that. Next to Mandy Conold, joined by on

(33:55):
trav Zach Seekers, who is in for a rod he
will do back tomorrow. Actually gonna talk him in a
few minutes from New Orleans. But joining me now in studio,
my friend in yours and gun enthusiast and gun controlled nemesis,
Williland Conway.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (34:11):
I love you?

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I love I know. Isn't it cool?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
This made that for me seeing it along and she's
so good. I love your sweatshirt than you.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
It says defund gun control. I'm ordering one of It's
my favorite sweater. I love this sweater.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I like to wear it in Whole Foods.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Do you get the side?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Let me tell you what happened.

Speaker 10 (34:28):
I actually wore this into Whole Foods the other day
and I forgot I had it on.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I wasn't like kind of provoker anything in this.

Speaker 10 (34:34):
I'm going through like the fruit isal or whatever, the
PROTI section.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
And this little old lady comes up to me and
she she grabs I kind of touches my shoulders she goes.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Whack your sweat.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Foods anyway, So you are actually the last time you
were on you were talking way to the capital to
testify at committee against this monstrosity of a gun control
bill that is working its way coming to the floor. Yes,
so passed a committee.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, they passed out a committee.

Speaker 10 (35:04):
There's it's kind of been in flux in terms of
the schedule.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I think it's supposed.

Speaker 10 (35:10):
To go for a vote tomorrow before the full Senate
and then after that it goes over to the House,
going to be more around the testimonies and all that,
and then from there, you know, they'll try to pass it.
So we are we're hoping that we can stop this
with pushback with.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
People speaking out.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
What what does the bill do?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So it's they they are saying that it's not.

Speaker 10 (35:30):
An assault weapons bill, but it is okay, So what
it is is it's a bill that bans any sort
of gas operated rifle that is semi automatic and takes
a detachable magazine, and some pistols. Gas operated basically means
any kind of AR fifteen type of of of rifle
or pistol would be banned unless it had a non
detachable fixed magazine. This is essentially out outlaws all of them, right,

(35:55):
And it's written very vaguely so that, yeah, so that
it's or any general phil Wiser would be able to
determine which other weapons might also be included. So it's
very convoluted and it can be sort of defined after
the fact, which makes it dangerous. And one of the
worst parts of this bill is they're claiming that it's
not an assault weapons bill because you can still get

(36:17):
an AR fifteen if you get it modified for a
fixed magazine. The problem with that is it makes that
weapon far less safe. Yeah, okay, So I actually just
spent the day. It was like two weeks ago. You remember,
it was like nine degrees, like a super cold.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I'm just in Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico. It's nice where.

Speaker 10 (36:36):
Yeah, you're in Puerto Rico chilling on the beach. I'm
in Kyowa in nine degrees and a foot of snow.
One does playing with AR fifteens. And I was having
malfunction problems because you've been firing the weapon all day.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
There's water and grit that's getting in there.

Speaker 10 (36:49):
I didn't have the best amo and so I'm having
these double feed malfunctions while this is happening.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I don't want to get too far in the weeds.

Speaker 10 (36:55):
So the bottom line is it's very easy to clean
that malfunction by simply ripping out that magazine. Chamber, racket, chamber.
Everything's good. If the magazine is fixed. You now have
to break down a loaded weapon with rounds in it.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
That seems safe.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, it's gonna lead.

Speaker 10 (37:11):
To a lot of negligent discharges hurting people. It's a
very terrible bill, and it's definitely designed to keep people's
hands off those weapons.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
So I asked you this off the ear of man
masket on the air. Out of the percentage of people
that showed up because they took testimony in committee until
like eleven o'clock at night, what percentage would you say,
we're testifying against the bill versus we're testifying in favor.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Of the bills. So you got Moms Right for.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Everyone or whatever you know, in every town.

Speaker 10 (37:37):
Against yeah, whatever, Mom's demand action, every Town against Violence right,
Brandy campaign were all there.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
But what would you say percentage wise against it versus
for it?

Speaker 10 (37:47):
Just at a glance, I'd say seventy five twenty five
against it. They probably didn't anticipate the level of response
that they got on that day. The line was almost
outside the Capitol to get into to view the testimony
and to testify. And they had the testimony obviously in
the old the committee hearing was actually in the old

(38:08):
Supreme Court, and then they had an overflow room down
the hall in the library, which was much bigger that
one was full and overflowing as well, So.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Both rooms were full.

Speaker 10 (38:16):
There were a lot of supporters of the bill there,
but they were all organized. You know, they're all wearing
the same shirt and they're all that kind of stuff.
And I'm sure there's a lot of good hearted people there, right,
but that was clearly sort of organized versus I think
there was a lot more grassroots of people that came
out and said, you know, we don't support what you're
doing here, right.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I just think it was it was a fate to
complete before any of testimony was taken. Tom Sullivan, who
suffered a horrific loss and the loss of his so
I do I think you have to have a lot
of compassion for that. But that being said, there was
a zero percent chance he wasn't going to pass that
out of committee. What do you think the chances are
now on the floor of the Senate. What do you
get it survived?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (38:54):
Right now, my vibe is deeply concerned, although I'm buoyed
by the pushback, which is actually part of the reas
and I'm here because we're part of that pushback, and you.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
We talk about that in a minute.

Speaker 10 (39:03):
But I'm bulloyed by the pushback, but I'm also still concerned. Right,
there's a number of things that can happen here. I
think the fact that this started in the Senate and
not the house. Right, the house is usually where the
crazy stuff comes from, right or left? Yep, it's usually
the house.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Well, just because there's more room for crazy in the
house exactly.

Speaker 10 (39:18):
And so when it starts there, usually the Senate is
like the big boy in the room and says, hey,
you know, we're going to hold off on that when
it starts to this bridge your body exactly. Yes, when
it starts in the Senate, it concerns me. So the
way this started number one. Number two, that's the other
thing that concerns me is how quickly and pre prescribed,
as you just pointed out, all of this is. So
I'm hesitant to voice a whole lot of optimism, even

(39:39):
though there's like a little ray of.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Hope in my heart right so, and I just I
think it's all.

Speaker 10 (39:44):
About pushback because if you ask any legislator if you
get a thousand letters, will you pay attention to that?
And they will all pay attention.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
To And it doesn't take a thousand letters. I learned
this when I was in college. I work for the
Senate Sergeant Arms Office in this in the Florida Senate
when I was in school a telehouse, and I saw
the impact when you walked into an office because part
of my job was basically like delivering bulk mail.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Meaning one year.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
They were hearing a construction some sort of construction bill.
I have no idea what was in the bill, but
all of these builders all over the state of Florida
mailed in pieces of two by four Wow, like that
was now.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
So my job was to roll.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
These giant cars two by four blocks. Right, you push
them in the door, and you would immediately see like
it was almost like a panicked look because they knew
that it was overwhelming. And then I talked to more
than one legislator over the years who said, look if Mike,
if my office gets ten calls on something, I'm gonna
pay attention, yeh yeah, because they know that a vast

(40:45):
majority of us never pick up the phone, We never
send an email, we never sent a letter. So it
does not take that much and it please just don't
like threaten anybody.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
What you need to do is write a respectful letter
that says, here's why I believe this is wrong, here's
why I want you to oppose it, and here's what
I'm going to do in terms of the next selection cycle.
If you vote yes, and there's nothing wrong with saying
I'm going to find your primary opponent, I'm going to
vote for your opponent, There's nothing wrong with that. But
I mean when you start like throwing f bombs and

(41:20):
you start being nasty, that goes in the garbage respectfully
written emails, respectfully in written letters, letters and phone calls.
If you just pick up the phone and you're never
going to talk to the legislator. By the way, don't
ever think they're going to pick up the phone, but
their staff takes the message and then they get a
readout of everything. Everybody that is called in. If you
can shut down a switchboard, that will shut down legislation.

Speaker 10 (41:41):
Yeah, for sure, and I love what you said. A polite, respectful,
but firm letter. Yes, goes so much farther. I mean,
when people lose, their lose they're cool. It literally does
detriment to this.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
It gives them the ammunition pun intended that you're the
other side is crazy and we need to limit their
right to get because.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
The other side is crazy.

Speaker 10 (42:01):
Well, and we have an example of a bipartisan approach
to opposing this bill, right. You know Nick Henrickson, who
is this Senate majority whip, he's in Democrat leadership.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
He is against this bill.

Speaker 10 (42:13):
And he's going to be speaking at the rally we'll.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Talk about here in just a minute this weekend.

Speaker 10 (42:18):
It's it's important to say that this isn't just a
Republican or a Democrat thing. There are Democrats in the
state of Colorado who recognize that their constituents, especially in
rural areas, are not going to take this right, so
they're going to represent them. I think that's why it's
super important that we stand up well this.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Texter, said Mandy, because the bill is so clearly unconstitutional.
Is it really an effort to make gun right supporters
waste their energy, then gun controllers would be able to
substitu something weaker, claiming they compromise, and that's really what
they've always done. It's like, hey, we're going to take
all your guns. Oh no, we're just going to make
a three day waiting period.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Sure, you know.

Speaker 10 (42:51):
Yeah, they've always run assault weapons bills to get us
fired up while they do this thing on red flags
or they do this thing on the waiting period. There
is another bill that's working its way through that's probably
going to.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Pass that I am also against.

Speaker 10 (43:03):
But it raises the age to buy the minimum age
to buy AMO from eighteen to twenty one, So that's
probably going to pass.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Right.

Speaker 10 (43:11):
But again, I'll go back to how this was framed.
If it had come out of the House, I would
have seen it as maybe that, and there's a possibility
there's also in there bump stocks and you know, certain
types of triggers, like maybe it gets paired back to that.
I don't know, but I think starting in the Senate
feels like it's more of we really want to do
this because we've wanted to do it for a long time,

(43:32):
and maybe there's certain elements in the Capital that see
that the tide is turning a little bit politically, and
they might see this as their last chance.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
But then again, because that tide. I mean, I had
a poll yesterday on the blog I don't even know,
did I Yeah, I did talk about it yesterday. Support
for Democrats in Colorado polling wise has decreased dramatically. Wow, dramatically.
The popularity of the party has decreased dramatically for the
first time. And how long Republicans gained some seats in
the legislation. I think that is going to give some

(44:02):
that are in slightly more competitive districts pause before they
jump on with this. This text asked the next question
I was about to ask you, Will the governor veto
it or will he run for president in twenty twenty
eight as the gun ban governor?

Speaker 10 (44:14):
Yeah, I think if he runs in twenty twenty eight,
he's more likely to veto it because it's not a.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Nationally popular thing.

Speaker 10 (44:20):
But here's the little sneaky thing about this, the gun
We're a lot like California and the way we're set up. Okayantastic, Yeah,
I know this is great. The governor could this could
pass and then the governor could just refuse to sign.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
It and let it go without a signato R.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
But then he I mean, I know that that is like,
that's a distinction without a difference, right, I mean, it's
the same thing. I still think you can turn feather
police in any presidential run if he lets it go
into office, because you have the opportunity to stop it.
Right by not stopping it, you're getting your tacit approval.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
And this is the thing, There's there's elements of the
governor that I think he has like this. I think
deep down in his heart he has this kind of
tendency towards a little bit of libertarianism from time to time.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
So we should just appeal to him, like, dude, this
is your chance stand up for the constitution.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Please, You're gonna understand this thing that I'm about to
say better than anybody else because you are also a
former Kentuckian.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
One of the things, one of the things that I
always say about Senator Mitch McConnell is.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
That just for me, it's an assault turtle.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, just from a purely political acumen point, there's nobody
better at politics than Mitch McConnell, nobody. And I would
put Jared Polis in the same league with him.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Yeah, I really do.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I think that Jared Polis has the ability to extrapolate
out from each decision what that would possibly do for
or against him going forward. And I fully believe that
our governor right now does not give a crap about
the state of Colorado. Every decision he's making is a
decision based on how it will positively effect his ability

(46:01):
to run for president in the near future.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, I mean, I fully believe that.

Speaker 10 (46:04):
And I think an assault weapons ban is highly unpopular
nationally and impossible to win on supporting it.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
So let's hope right.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Our age limits this one said, the Fifth Circuit set
age limits are unconstitutional. Does that happen? Did I miss
that ruling?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I haven't.

Speaker 10 (46:16):
I did not see that ruling, so I would have
missed it too. But even if they did, it's still
is going to have to work its way to the
Supreme Court for that to play out. And the Supreme
Court right now is not super anxious to hear these
gun cases.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
And secondarily to the texture who said, why bother, it's
going to be every challenge, every court challenge costs a fortune.
So whether you have Rocky Mountain gun owners filing a
lawsuit or whatever. All you're doing is draining money away
from organizations that otherwise would stand up for the Second Amendment.
Every time they have to fight something in court, they

(46:49):
are prevented from being able to go on offense against
something else. Egregious.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
True, Yeah, you don't want.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
These things to go into effects. So what happens now?
Tell us about the rally. We we've talked about that.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Oh, this is awesome. So, as you know, I work
for Delta Defense.

Speaker 10 (47:02):
We managed us Concual Cary Association and the U s
CCAS has a an action fund. It's called U s
c c a FSL for Saving Lives and it is
all about standing up for the Second Amendment. And so
we are actually hosting a rally at the Gallery Shooting
Range in Restaurant, which is over in Lakewood. You can

(47:22):
google it to be right there. It's a beautiful facility.
We're hosting it on Saturday from ten thirty to noon,
and we've got a great group of speakers speaking of
Rocky Mountain gun owners. En Escalante is going to be there,
so that'd be awesome. Ras Kaminski I invited you, but
you have a.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Ross is going to come by. Former State Senator Greg
Brophy is going to be there. He's awesome, Yeah, super
cool guy.

Speaker 10 (47:46):
And as I mentioned earlier, Senate Majority Whip Nick Nick
Henrickson is actually going to be there to speak against
this bill as well.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I'll speak for a few minutes, but I'm.

Speaker 10 (47:55):
Going to kind of mc it and We've got a
good list of speakers. It's going to be a blast,
a great time. And there's a really nice right yeah, blast.
But there's a really nice restaurant as part of the range,
so great food, so they'll be that there. It's very
family friendly. We're gonna have a good time.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Or can people come out and shoot too?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Oh yeah, yeah. The range will be open at the
time obviously.

Speaker 10 (48:14):
And that's how I call al on the mills, right yeah, okay, yeah,
it's right across from there.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
People can sign up for this. You don't have to
sign up to come.

Speaker 10 (48:20):
You can show up, but we'd love you to sign
up for it at u s CCA Action Fund dot org,
Forward Slash Gallery Dash Range Dash Event and make.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
That easier by putting it on my blog today, so right.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
At the top of my blog blog.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Every day.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Well you should because it is a work of freaking
art every single day.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Where do you actually do that?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Like in the morning.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
It's all in the morning at five am or what.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I mean, I get up, you know, like I'm having
one of those periods. I don't call it insomnia, Okay,
I call it, Oh my god, Why am I waking
up so early? I'm able to go back to sleep.
Lately it's been like four five, But I do it.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
All in the morning.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
It takes about three and a half.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I'm like, when does you have time to put all
this together?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I don't have time to put it off together. But
I love it and it makes me happy and I
hope people get a lot out of it. So and
it makes it easier than me having to like email
people where I got my stories. So what are you
hoping to have come out of this event at the gallery,
Range and Restaurant.

Speaker 10 (49:15):
Well, I'm hoping that's an example of and this is
going to be one thing that I'm going to speak about.
The person who led the charge in Colorado to put
a magazine limit on was at the time in the
state legislature and is now a US congresswoman.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
We need to be.

Speaker 10 (49:32):
Active at every step of the political process. The dog
catcher gets promoted to mayor, the mayor gets promoted to
state rep. The state Rep gets promoted. The next thing
you know, they're a senator or a president. We have
to get active. The first way to get active is
to show up at events like this, hear from other
people who will tell you the next things we can do,
steps we can take right. We are also going to

(49:52):
provide at the rally an opportunity for people to sign
a letter to Jared Polis that says, please say no
to this bill.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
So you can come to the and here are the speeches.

Speaker 10 (50:01):
But you can also take action at the rally that
will be as you and I just talked about at
the beginning of this, that will be action that will
be paid attention to.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
They'll go directly to pull us.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
You know, I'm having those conversations with people, you know
when they're always like, you hate children, that's why you're
anti gun, and I cannot in our world right this
moment in time, you can look around the world at
some of the most horrible places to live where children
are starving, and they all have gun control. Because when

(50:32):
you deep disarm a population, then you allow the government
or whoever to do whatever they want. And in the
United States of America we have this normalcy bias like, oh,
that's not ever going to happen here. Yeah, but I'm
sure that's how the people of Venezuela felt. I'm sure
that's how the people of Cuba felt when they gave
their arms over. I'm sure that's how you know, the
Iranian people, which.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Are Australia during COVID.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
We just had a mass shooting in Sweden.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Did you say I saw that yesterday? Ten people.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, and they have some of the most strict gun
control in the world in sweet like, you have to
justify it if we in order to even own a firearm,
let alone use it.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
So we have to stop.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
We have to undermine that argument that somehow being against
gun control means you're pro murder, when in reality, I
think it's the exact opposite, pro life, pro liberty. I'm
pro having all of the things that make this country great,
but I'm also pro being able to defend myself from
a tyrannical government law bying.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
Gun owners never want to use their gun, correct, they
don't want to use it, correct, But.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
If you want to use your gun and come to
a great event. The gallery range and reference.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
We do want to use it at that range rage.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
It is very very fun.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Leveland Conway, first of all, thanks for all you do.
You guys can listen to history on kog O tonight. Yes, yeah,
seven to nine. That's right. I got to get that
in my mind. I suck at time Zone.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Have all these fees here in Colorado.

Speaker 10 (51:50):
In San Diego, they had a chance to vote a
tax increase and people said no to it.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So now they're putting all the fees on.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
So you know what, that's so weird.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
It's weird.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
That is so it's so weird. I don't even know
how that happened. No, I do know, because we all
watched it happen here. That's right, Leland, Conway, come back anytime.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Awesome, Thanks, good to see you all.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Right when we get back, our man A Rod is
in New Orleans covering the Super Bowl. He's actually on
his way back this afternoon, but we're going to check
in with him one more time. I know he was
like all squee about seeing Kendrick Lamar last night at
their big rollout. Do you know any Kendrick Lamar songs?
Leland and SASA and are do these me? I mean,

(52:28):
there you go. Nineties country is the best country.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
We're going to talk to A Rod next find out
if there's any news out of the super Bowl we
need to know. We're doing that right after this on KOA. Yeah,
it's time to talk to our man at the super

(52:52):
Bowl one, mister Anthony Rodriguez, covering all the action from
New Orleans before he jets back here in time for
the game. So, A Rod, were you all excited when
you got to be near Kendrick Climore last night?

Speaker 5 (53:04):
That was actually today?

Speaker 6 (53:05):
And yes, I absolutely, yeah, No, it was just it
was just this afternoon and absolutely I was.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
I mean, the.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
Apple Apple Music Squad puts on quite the quite the
program with the with the room that they set up
here in the convention Center.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Uh, it was. It was electric.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
And steal one of Kendrick's own lines from a song
title of a song, rather.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
That's a humble dude. That guy is. That guy is
a really nice guy.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
They even mentioned he doesn't really like to do interviews,
but he's a good dude.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
That was.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
That was a really captivating conversation I had with him.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
So obviously they're excited because being in a Super Bowl
halftime show was kind of a big deal. Did they
give any kind of like any kind of hints about
what we can expect from this showy?

Speaker 6 (53:46):
They tried to get him to give a little bit.
So this was a moderated conversation, like a little Birdie
told me. And then it was confirmed there there wasn't.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
It wasn't really the Q and A that I thought
it would be. Is more of the moderated on stage conversation.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
They did ask him about it, and he he gave
a more so about kind of the theme, less about
what we'll see like visually or audibly. He said that
you know that he wants to be present, that he
wants to to basically.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Tell a story. He said, all about storytelling.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
So I think we're going to see maybe like one
of I'm not going to say, like you know, justin
Timberlake going from place to pay place, or like the weekend,
going from set.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
To set with some kind of storytelling.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
I think you have to make it immaculate when you
have we're gonna have a hip hop artist if you're
telling a story, especially with his lyrics, I think he's
one of the best lyricists there is, so I think
we're going to see just in some immaculate sets.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
When I hear storytelling, you have to tell the story
visually too.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I am looking forward to hearing my first Kendrick Lamar songs.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I have heard says songs. Actually, because my daughter listens
to some collapse.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
You have heard Rick. You just don't realize it. That's
what I will tell you.

Speaker 6 (54:48):
You have heard Kendrick, You'll realize, Oh, that's Kendrick, because
he's just he's everywhere. The dude is global and that's
why he's that's why he's doing this.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Okay, So what else has happened this week?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
What's the vibe?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
People getting excited? I loved your video, which, by the way,
I put on the blog today where you talk to
people in New Orleans about the fact that Donald Trump
was going to be at the game.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
No, it's it's it's been a whirlwind. I mean, I
had heard tail because obviously this is my first Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
I had heard.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Tale of the Wednesday and Thursday really be the massive
ramp up period, and that's been exactly that, both the
feel and the city here in the Convention Center. I mean,
I mean everywhere, the amount of increase in in stars, celebrities, athletes, everything,
it's been a massive uptick.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
And and yeah, that that that was a fun, a fun.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Day to go back and forth with some pro Trump
guys some anti I prefer that he stay away, both
for just probably just personal reasons and also just because
they're a little concerned the increased security risk, even though
I will say I think some folks are kind of
worried about maybe just to increase security just because of
obviously what happened to Bourbon Street a few months ago.
So so one one way or another.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, so what have they given have they? Have they
given any kind of information? Like when we went to
the r n C and the DNC, we had a
clear picture of what we were looking at security wise
before we got there. We're talking about what eighty thousand people.
I don't know how many people fit in the in
the Superdome. It's not the super Dome. What is it
called now? Sees are super dome, Sees are superher Okay,
so it is still the Superdome. So I mean, have

(56:12):
they told people I get here what four hours early
five hours? I mean, what does that even look like?

Speaker 6 (56:18):
I haven't protured particular of game day itself, but I
will say every event that I've that i've been covering
here in terms of from a media perspective, I've heard
tailed to just basically just arrived very early. Like, for example,
I think I got pretty lucky. When I was asking
around about the particulars of today's the Halftime Show press conference,
I think I might have ran into someone I was
pretty highup the foodchain, either with Apple Music or with

(56:40):
a super Bowl and they said, yeah, you're gonna want
to get there pretty early, and so I did. That
thing started at ten am Central time here, and I
arrived and luckily got a prime sea because I arrived
close about nine am, so an hour hour and a
half before that thing started.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
So that's been the general suggestion about everything. I will say.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
Yesterday, I was standing outside when I was waiting to
interview people for that Trump piece, I was waiting right
outside the Convention Center area, which is the entrance to
the NFL fan experience.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Going on this week, which is just an amazing level.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Fine, did you do it? Did you do those stuff?
With the NFL fan experience is so much fun.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
I walked around, I got some video of it. They
had a lot of cool Broncos said, like patzer Tan
had a locker. They had a big, a big one
of those one of those big like how you describe it,
those figurines where you can stand and put your head
in and looks like you're an NFL player. But but
what I'm saying is the NFL fan experience, there was
a little bit a bit of confusion outside with all
the security barricades, like I saw, I saw quite a

(57:31):
few people come down towards where I was only to
be looped back around and go all the way back
down to the other side further down the convention center
just because of some confusion. So there's barricades everywhere, there's
there's kind of there's there's some overall general confusion you
would expect from an event like this. But but overall,
like from a grand perspective, the city, the folks here
at the convention Center, which is just massive, they're they're

(57:54):
doing an excellent job kind of kind of hurting the
cat both media and fans.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
New Orleans is very good at large groups of people
from to and fro. They just I mean, because they
have so many big events that happen on a regular basis.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
They've got draft I was in this thing.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Yeah, time they posted this time with Miami for the
most I mean, they know what they're doing and it's
it's proven.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
When you were standing outside waiting to talk to people
for the little piece on Trump coming to the super
Bowl that is on the blog today at mandy'sblog dot com,
did you have as much trouble getting people to talk
to you as we did at the d n C.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
No, because I I I made the executive decision that
I was going to talk to them about more than
just the Trump things, right, I will, I will look
to use some more of their answers on some of
the other stuff, more about the game and you know,
their time in the New Orleans and the security stuff.
But I did, I made the executive decision to not
lead them in the direction of exclusives. You want to
talk about Trump? Yeah, because they all would have said
they all would have said no, so and I assume

(58:49):
half of them I probably like, oh, we're gonna talk
about that too.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
But I said, you know, at the end, you know.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
I'm gonna get a newsworthy piece in this as well.
For this for this package so I had a couple
of different features going in mind on that.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
So I knew the RNC and the.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
D and see was my training you just yeah, right,
for my training, I.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Knew what I was doing this time around.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Okay, I'm glad I could help, like my showing you
what not to do, because that was that was challenging.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
So I have.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Casey and Philly fans started rolling in today or yesterday, you.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Know, I haven't. I haven't seen too many. For the
ones that I have seen, and I think it's.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Definitely seemingly been see I was about.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
To say that it's been mostly cheese, but the last
little bit, especially when I was doing that trumpies.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
A lot of the folks walking by were Eagles fans,
but I haven't seen a lot. And I walked, I
walked up and down Bourbon Street last night to get
a feel for what that was like. And that's a
whole other conversation. But on the piece of fans, I
didn't really see many dressed in chiefscarb or Eagles green.
I didn't see a lot of that. I don't know
if they, I mean, there were there were quite a
few shirtless guys. Yes, I'll say that, and and that's
in addition to what we know in New Orleans, so

(59:47):
it was more. I think I saw more shirtless men
and on Bourbon Street than I did anyone wearing Eagles
or chief scear.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Well, what's funny is I have.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
One friend from Kansas City who was going to the game.
But they're flying in Saturday and they're fre like they're
flying out Monday morning because they've gone to the last
two Super Bowls. So it's not as special as it
has been.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
The travel is going to be madness.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
I was talking to a media member who sitting next
to me waiting for the press conference to start for
Kendrick Lamar and they were even saying that they I
think they are leaving on Sunday morning, and I like
wanted to be like, are you I don't know what,
I don't know when Donald Trump's getting in, but you
might I want I should have said you might want
to move that up. And I think a lot of
people there's there's probably gonna be some adjusted travel plans
because of because of the president coming in.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
That's its rule.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
So this this, I mean, this is a first, like
I said, first sitting US president to attend the super Bowl.
Other presidents have, but this is the first. So it
was already gonna be a mad house with a super Bowl.
It's already an amazing city like New Orleans. Now you
have that factory and it's going to be nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I got a question from a texture Wow a Rod
how many Red Bulls have you had today?

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Do you know?

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
I went to a Walgreens a few days ago to stockpile,
and after the day I went and got one. I
don't think I've drincken one since I have like two
in my bag that I wish I had have had
time to drink. But when you're busy talking to Rob Gronkowski,
Mike Vick and all the other folks at Fox Sports
Media like I did today, you're gonna have enough energy
to get you through stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
So I have. I have the red Bull, I just
haven't used it yet. It's really really fast. I can
get as much hand I know, who.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Is your last question? Who is the favorite person that
you've interviewed this.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Week aside from SpongeBob and Patrick.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Yeah, SpongeBob.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
SpongeBob, he didn't he didn't see my injury interview with SpongeBob.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
And Patrick, No, I did not. How did I know that?

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
I had them grade my SpongeBob laugh impression and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Would you get spots? Would you get?

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
Oh? I got?

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
I got to two cheers as expected. Nice inaudible from
to two folks in costume. I mean, of course they
were the real Spongebo' and Patrick. Other than that, you know,
I just I just had a really fun chat with
with Rob Gronkowski about tight ends in the NFL. Obviously,
the Broncos looked to potentially add one Mike Vick, a
long time legendary NFL quarterback. That's some really good stuff
to say about bo Nix just a few minutes ago.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Those again, both of those are the Fox Sports Media Day.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
Other than that, I taught to the Philly sports guy,
legendary Eagles super fan. You can watch that video on
our socials. That was a lot of fun. I know
you probably saw the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Taylor Swift ridiculous you have it that super fan.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
He I'll tell you this, and I called out Travis
Kelsey and then my video because I said, you know what,
that was a way better pitch and it's not going
to get me never, but it's it's a way better pitch.
Than Travis Kelsey gave me with his one liner. So
I hope Taylor sees both videos and realizes her boyfriend
could have done better.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Well, no, I thought her boyfriend's answer was perfect. Who
isn't a swiftye? I mean, come on, well, I'll tell you,
I'll tell you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
My Austrian friends pointed out that they saw that Travis
Kelsey one liner to me on a Taylor Swift hate
sub reddit, so they've seen this video. After this video
is everywhere I have. I have exponentially grown my anti
Swift fan base in the in the way of the
Swifty's coming.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
After me over the last couple of days. So I'll
take it. I'll take it. It's been a fun storyline.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
I've run with it, and you know, Travis one line
me and moved on and it's paid off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
There you Hey, rod will be back tomorrow with more tales,
and if you follow him on social media, he's gonna
be post even more videos before he leaves New Orleans
to come back in advance of the Super Bowl. All right, man,
I'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
All right, thank you? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
That is Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
All the words to Doctor Dre's chronic still to this day,
and there's nothing cooler than a woman in a mom
car driving herself to Whole Foods listening to some Doctor
Dre the chronic loud with the windows down.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Here, yeah, but I don't. I generally don't listen to
newer rap because I find most of it awful. They've
given up on any kind of rhyming back in the
day at least. I mean, they were called rhymes for
a reason, and so much of rap music today is
just a bunch of guys just rattling off a bunch
of words, and I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I don't think it's artists dick in my view anyway.
So I am not familiar with Kendrick Lamar. I do
know a couple of Scissa songs, because those there are
some what do the kids say today, some collabs where
they collaborate with another artist. Yes, so Sissa has collabed
with several of the artists that my daughter likes. So
I'm familiar with the collabs of Sissa. So they're they're

(01:04:23):
not booking these guests for me this time, right, They've
moved on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
I am no longer in the demo.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
I say that now so often it's not even funny
when I realize that I am, you know, They're They're
not making movies for me, they're not making television job.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I just go, I'm not in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
The demo of whatever that is, so any In any case,
we can all enjoy Kendrick Lamar on Sunday together for
the first time. For me should be super awesome. I
want to share this story, only, haven't you know what Now,
I'm gonna wait on that one. We have a price
scouging bill in Colorado that it's just an absolute mess.

(01:05:04):
And the reason I'm so frustrated about a stupid, poorly
written price gouging bill that is so broad and so
ridiculous is because the Democrats are going to try and
pass this price gouging bill to tell us that they
are concerned about saving us money, when in reality, they
already shot down a repeal of the kh Tree egg law.

(01:05:26):
There's no way they're going to repeal the bad tax,
There's no way they're going to repeal the delivery tax.
There's no way they're going to take back any of
the myriad of ways that they have made living in
Colorado more expensive, but they're going to try and pass
a gouging bill that isn't going to do anything. Florida
has a gouging bill on the law on the books
for a very long time. Do you know how many

(01:05:47):
people have been prosecuted under that mill None?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Zero zip.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
It's incredibly hard to prove price gouging, and now Colorado
is going to try and do it here because they
want to make the business environment even worse. When we
get back Mayor Mike's Office, Mayor Mike Johnston has announced
they will indeed accept the invitation by the Oversight Committee
in Congress to come and testify about Denver's sanctuary status.
And when I read the text message excuse me tweet

(01:06:16):
that the Mayor's office sent out last night about this,
you are going to burst out laughing. Who will be
back tomorrow from the super Bowl. I got to share
this with you guys, so you know, because we talked

(01:06:38):
about it on the program, that the Mayor of Denver
has been invited by the House Committee on Oversight to
come and share some conversation with them about denver sanctuary status.
The mayor hedged a bit when asked by nine News
if he was going to appear, and it seems that
he has thought better of hedging, and this came out

(01:07:01):
on the mayor's account last night. After discussions, Mayor Mike
Johnston and the Committee have agreed to a March fifth
hearing with House Oversight. Denver has shown you can be
compassionate and welcoming without sacrificing public safety or core services.
We look forward to discussing with the committee.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
They send us message out on the very same day
that ice dea ATF and the FBI were in arresting
a bunch of criminal aliens here well, mostly in Aurora,
because Denver paid an NGO to ship all of the
venezuela's that they brought to Denver over to Aurora without
telling Aurora what they were doing. But does anybody else
laugh out loud when this part without sacrificing public safety

(01:07:48):
or core services? Aren't some? I mean, at some point
we're recreation centers closed to use as migrant centers have
we stop planting flowers because.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
We ran out of money.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
How safe do you guys feel at all the intersections
full of venezuelans with window washing equipment?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I mean, now, it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Got really interesting when Right after I saw this tweet,
I got an email from the office of Representative Gabe Evans.
You know, Gabe is a former police officer, and Gabe
is being read onto the committee just for this appearance.
He doesn't normally serve on the House Oversight Committee, but
he is being allowed to come and participate. And I

(01:08:32):
gotta tell you, I think that is spectacular, just spectacular.
Gabe Evans tweeted out this game on I've been authorized
to wave onto the Oversight Committee for this one. The
days of Colorado Democrats getting a pass on their dangerous
sanctuary state policies are over now. Right after she became

(01:08:54):
Attorney General, Pam Bondi immediately suspended federal dollars to sanctuary
cities imediately. And I don't see anybody talking about how
this is going to affect Denvers specifically, because I mean,
it's this is what the federal government has always done.
The federal government always, always, always uses their money as

(01:09:19):
a blegeend. They always do, they always have. When they
want a state to capitulate and do something that they
want them to do that the state says they don't
want to do, they will say, Okay, fine, do it.
On your own dime. You're not get to any more
money for us. That's how we got the fifty five
mile per hour speed limit back in the seventies. That's
how drunk driving laws were actually increased. Penalties were increased

(01:09:40):
nationwide because they threatened to withhold trouts transportation money.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
So I haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Anything in the news media about that, but I gotta
tell you, I can hardly wait. I can hardly. I mean,
I'm like a flutter with excitement.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
It's going to be challenging for me because I'm going
to be on the air March fifth. It is a Wednesday,
so we're gonna have to make that work. But it's
going to be exciting Musty TV. And I'm interested to
see how our mayor does, you know, I'm interested to
see how he pulls this off, especially if Representative Gabe
Evans is going to be there to ask him very

(01:10:19):
specific questions that he already knows the answer to and
that the mayor is is going to have to try
and figure out how to answer succinctly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
So that's kind of that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
If you're just joining us, I really want you to
go to the blog today to read the story about
the USAID and a news media organization. This seemed to
have colluded with the CIA to print a story just
in time to impeach Donald Trump over a phone call

(01:10:53):
to the Ukrainian president. It's a very sordid sort of
circular situation and very distressing. But Michael Schellenberger is covering
it and it's incredibly, incredibly interesting. So that is on
the blog today. I went over it in the first hour.
I don't want to do it again because it's convoluted

(01:11:13):
and you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Go deep, and I don't have time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
I do want to talk about this very quickly. And
you're hearing on the news about the King Supers strike
that's going on. Somebody on my next door posted yesterday
or today, I don't know, yesterday or day before that.
It was basically this canned union put out statement like
don't jump at King Supers, move your prescriptions to other pharmacies,

(01:11:38):
and don't crush the picket lines. Holy cow, did they
get lit up on next door?

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Lit up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Basically people saying this is not my problem, this is
not my fight, and if I need to go to
King Supers, I'm going to King Supers. I will say this,
Are you a King super shopper, Zach, do U shop
at King Supers? There's so many of them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Yeah, that's my most convenient grocery shore. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
It's our nicest grocery store, closest to us. And I
don't care. I mean no offense. I like, I don't
care about their labor dispute. I really don't care. So
as long as it's going on, I'm still shopping at Kingscoopers.
I just I don't have a dog in that fight.
I don't even really care about the issues. To tell
you the truth, I will say this, I was at

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my normal Kingscoopers last weekend and it was flooded with
temporary employees, absolutely flooded, like easily double the amount of
employees at the store. So King Soopers is not taking
this lightly. They're not taking lying down. They have shortened
store hours because of it. You know, you gotta do

(01:12:44):
what you gotta do. But they lost a pretty big
market share too Safeway last time, and I think they're
determined not to do this again. Mandy never liked the
window washers, but if they made you feel unsafe, you're
never allowed to call anyone a snowflake again. You know what, sir,
I'm guessing you're a sir because if you're a woman
traveling alone and there's four men around your car at

(01:13:05):
the same time and you don't know what they're capable of,
you can f right off if you think that that
is not a reason for a single woman to be scared.
You know, I'm glad that dudes don't have to worry
about such things. That you just go blazing through life
without having to worry about things like being attacked in
a parking lot on your way to your car, or
having men surround your vehicle and prevent you from being

(01:13:26):
able to leave or break a window. I'm glad you
get to go through life like that, but not everybody does.
That kind of stuff irritates the crap out of me, Mandy.
Why doesn't the media call the King's Supers employees greedy
when they strike to demand more money. As a customer,
I'll be paying for it. And during that strike few

(01:13:47):
years ago, when I crossed the picket line, I'll let
them know what I thought. I expected them to be angry,
but they looked almost chagrined. That from game or gold,
you know, I think that the union numbers are trying
to do. The union members on the picket line. They
just want whatever it is they're asking for. Again, I
have no idea what they're even asking for. I don't care,
but I don't think we're in the days where you

(01:14:08):
know you're gonna have angry union members, especially grocery store workers.
I love my grocery store workers of my King's Sleeper.
I hope they come back very soon. But again, don't care.
Not gonna be justuaited, gonna keep going to my king soupers.
And apparently you are too. You know how I feel

(01:14:34):
about Thomas Matthey. I love the guy. He just introduced
a bill to completely abolish USA. Remember when I said
Congress has to step up and do its part or
none of this stuff matters. This is Congress stepping up
and doing its part. I want to do this next
story from the Denver Gazette, and I hope that someone
can get it into the governor's ear. There's going to
be collateral damage from everything that Donald Trump is doing,

(01:14:56):
people that are harmed as the country shifts back to
a more sane footing, And one of those collateral damages
is a guy named Jose Barco. Jose Barco served in
the military. He signed up for the army when he
was seventeen years old. He was born in Venezuela and
brought here as a child. He did two tours in

(01:15:18):
combat and was with a group that lost a lot
of soldiers in combat in Fallujah Ramadi in the heart
of the Sunni Triangle, and in Baghdad's stoor A neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
He got back and struggled.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
As part of his struggles, one night he was out,
made a really dumb choice, fired a gun randomly, and
he hit a pregnant woman in the leg. He was
sentenced to over fifty years in prison. He was eventually
released early because of good behavior, so he has paid
his debt to society. When he went to leave prison,
he was granted or greeted by ice.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Now here's the rub.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
The Army, because he volunteered to serve, was supposed to
help him get citizenship, but they drop the ball. So
now a decorated soldier, by the way, not just a soldier.
A decorated soldier. He was given accommodation for saving other
soldiers by lifting up a car that had been used
as a car bomb. So they could get out from

(01:16:17):
under it. He paid his debt to society, and the
army did not follow through on their commitments to him.
And this is back from like two thousand and six,
two thousand and seven. So now he can be deported
because he's he's a criminal. One of the few ways
that he'll be able to stay in Colorado or in

(01:16:40):
the United States is if Governor Polis pardons him. And
you know I've talked about we were talking earlier on
the show with Lealon Conway about I mean, I believe
that Jared Polis is a masterful politician, and so I
want to appeal to the governor with this. First of all,
it's the right thing to do to pardon this man

(01:17:00):
and then let the army fix its egregious mistake and
go and follow through on its promise to this gentleman.
By doing so, you can show compassion for someone caught
up in this immigration situation. You can show compassion for
a soldier who served his country honorably. You can show
compassion for a man who's PTSD led him to do

(01:17:21):
a really dumb thing, but he went to prison for
it and he served his time. So Governor, I'm asking
you to please pardon Jose Barco, please help this man,
and hopefully we won't have a lot of other stories
like this, but there's gonna be collateral damage. I've been

(01:17:41):
getting a lot of snaughty text messages from people and
emails like oh chaos and see you guys. We are
in a period of creative destruction right now that this
country has needed for a very long time. And unfortunately
it has to happen like this because Congress has shown
no will to do any of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
None.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
This is what is going to create the movement to
bring back law and order to our country, and unfortunately
guys like this are gonna get caught up in it.
By the way, another story about the military. Very very
quickly December and January, the Army shattered their prior recruitment goals.

(01:18:25):
The US Army recently announced it shattered previous recruiting records,
with December twenty twenty four being the most productive December
in fifteen years. The brands reported it and listed nearly
three hundred and fifty soldiers every day that month, and
they give Secretary Pete Hegseth a lot of credit. So

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leadership matters. But the Army owes this man. The military
still has some issues. I have a very good column
on the blog today from Realcleardefense dot com by a
guy who has been involved in military investigations and things
of that nature, and it is about the favoritism that

(01:19:09):
the army gave to Captain Rebecca Lobosh. She was one
of the three pilots aboard the black Hawk that ran
into a commercial airliner and created a mid air collision
that killed everyone. But the other two pilots were named
right away, but for some reason, Captain Rebecca Lobach her
name wasn't released. They said it was because the family asked.

(01:19:31):
That's not how the military works. As a matter of fact.
In this column he goes through the entire process that
the military goes through when a soldier is killed, and
by giving her a preferential treatment, it casts down on
everything else that's being said about her, which was she
was an exemplary soldier, not just a good one, an
exemplary soldier, and if they just released her name at

(01:19:53):
the same time, there'd be an onn story. But by
giving her special treatment makes you wonder why it was
a bad choice. When we get back Rich Gugenheim was
at the Capitol to testify the other day. He's a
little bit frustrated about something. We're going to talk about
that next. Trying to do things like protect girls' sports

(01:20:23):
and other things with my friend Rich Gugenheim. Well, he's
got an update because he went to the Capitol to
testify about a bill and while he left a little
dissatisfied with the actions of some lawmakers. But do you
think good afternoon, Rich Gugenheim.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
Hey, Mandy, how are you so?

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
I'm doing great? I want to talk first of all,
what you were testifying about, because actually, let me back
that up to the station for just one second. Yesterday
at the White House, the President signed an executive order
protecting girl sports. This is huge, I mean it's really huge.
Now it is an executive order, So if another president

(01:21:01):
gets into office, then that will go away if they're
from a different party. That being said, that issue for
right now, for this moment, seems to be somewhat settled
for like five minutes. So what were you ish? We'll
say ish, We'll put that to the side just for
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
I'll tell you this. Yeah, I actually am going to
run the girls Sports Bilot initiative in Colorado again because
ultimately this could get challenged by courts yep, and it
is a states rights issue, and we know Colorado's legislature
cannot be counted on to protect women.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Correct what, that's not what you were testifying about.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Kistro Right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
I was there to testify on a bill that would
have made it so that any person who was harmed
by gender affirming care could then file acclaim against their
medical practitioner. And medical practitioners carry insurance that protect them
in the event that they are sued for malpractice, and

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in the state of Colorado, those insurers are not allowed
to take any kind of action against a doctor who
causes harm related to gender affirming care. All other kinds
of medical interventions are covered, but not gender affirming care.
So this bill would have made it so that being
insurance that covers a doctor could say, you know what,
you've ensued multiple times because of problems that you've done

(01:22:22):
to your patients under the guise of gender firming care,
and now we're going to raise your rates or we're
going to cancel your policy. So that's that's all this
bill would do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
So it is designed essentially to give people who maybe
were convinced by the medical establishment that they were in
the wrong body and then took or accepted permanent medical
changes to their bodies. So it would allow it would
allow them. I'm confused, Rich, it would allow them they

(01:22:53):
can already sue or they can't sue.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Well, that's there's two different issues tied up in that
they can not in Colorado. But the problem isn't necessarily
this wasn't about the patients that are harmed. This is
about the insurers that are covering the doctors. And so
this just allows those insurance companies to say, Okay, you've
been sued. We've paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars,

(01:23:17):
millions of dollars. So in the case of like Chloe
Cole suing Kaiser Permanente, this would allow the insurance company
that protects Kaiser Permanente and pay them out, so that
insurance company could take higher You've got sued for millions
of dollars, and now is the result, We're going to
raise your rates or now we're going to Okay. You
know what's interesting this really is about. This is about

(01:23:38):
deregulation essentially, and saying to the insurance companies yeah, you
can do what you want to do that's in the
best interest of your industry and your business.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
It's interesting because most situations that doctors or hospitals are
sued over are about negligence or malpractice, right, I mean,
they're about a hospital mistake or a doctor's mistake that
leads to desires injury. That's what a vast majority of
these suits are about. This sort of gender affirming care
for some people is from the outset damaging. I mean,

(01:24:11):
is this an attempt to hold the doctors accountable for
these choices, or is it an attempt to encourage insurance
companies to just not cover this sort of lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
I think it's both my personal opinion as someone who
will help bring this bill to life, it's both. But
you know, the thing is from the onset. Let's be honest.
A skin grass could fail, vaginal plast these mysactomies, those
things all come with risk, septic infection, stuff like that.

(01:24:46):
And so this just makes sure that in my testimony
I said this I'm sure is that transgender people are
receiving the highest quality of care and that there are
repercussions for doctors who don't provide that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
I will say I read a stat not that long
ago that said thirty percent of people who undergo significant
and we're talking about we'll call it bottom surgery, for
lack of a better way to make it easy to understand,
thirty percent of them live in constant pain from the surgery.
That is insane to me. What other surgery would we

(01:25:22):
allow to continue where a third of the people who
received the surgery live in constant pain because of the surgery.
I found that appalling and shocking.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
It is well and you know, even Wpath, one of
the top medical practitioners on WPATH, came out this last
week and said that the number of the transitioners are
roughly thirty percent and they deserve the same kind of
compassion and care that we provide to our people who
are transitioning. And this person, I will say, I absolutely

(01:25:55):
agree with that. That they've been lying and telling us
it's less than one percent. Are finally coming clean and
thing it's as high as thirty percent? What and this
is what? Yeah, this is the w PASS people finally
coming clean and things as high as thirty percent? So
why aren't we protecting those people?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Ly, that is a staggeringly high.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Number I mean exactly, yeah, Holy macly oh it to
protect them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
See, and Rich, we've talked about this before and we
both feel the exact same way. If I'm wrong, you
can correct me. But if you're an adult, you can
do whatever you want. You can as long as you
make informed decisions, right, like you should be informed of
all the negative downsides and that thirty percent of people
regret this or whatever it is. But it's for children
that is where it feels especially egregious, especially knowing what

(01:26:43):
you just said. I'm guessing that the you know, children
making these decisions, they're the ones. I just I don't know.
It's all this is. This is terrible, Rich, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
And I'll tell you what the biggest complaint that I had, well,
you had channels of experts and Mandy. Yesterday was a
monumental change in what has been going on in the country.
Yesterday on the testimony on this bill was the first
time that a lot of us who have been in
the fight all across the country can actually say we

(01:27:16):
ever remember seeing more people on our side who opposed
under ideology testifying on a bill than trans rights activists.
We outnumbered the trans rights activists yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
So what happened, because I know that you expected the
Democrats to not be particularly engaged or responsive, But what
happened with the Republicans on the committee, Well, let me let.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Me address the Democrats first.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
They did.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
They went in and they said you were respect pronouns,
So right out of the gate they were contelling our
speech again like they did last time. But we expected
that type of homophobia, We expected that anti constitutional First
Amendment stuff from the Democrats. But the publicans I wrote

(01:28:03):
fact sheets on this. I gave them a whole packet
of questions to ask people that were going to be testifying,
both pro trans rites, a transitioner, a youth transitioner, an
LGB person, an attorney, a lawyer, and so they had
a whole bunch of questions that they could ask. And
the four Republicans that were sitting on that committee literally

(01:28:24):
had Aaron Lee, Jamie Reed, the whistleblower from George Washington University, myself,
Travis Morrell, a doctor with dunal harm medicine, and a
whole bunch of other d transitioners and LGB people, And
they didn't bother to ask us a single question.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
I think, and I don't know what Republicans were on
this committee, but I think that there would be a
lot of Republicans who would be happy to not have
to deal with this subject anymore. And yesterday when Donald
Trump had that executive order signing at the White House,
I think they thought, Okay, I don't have to deal
with this. I really believe that was the attitude that
is happening. But to your point that you made earlier,

(01:29:05):
if we don't quantify this stuff into Colorado law, it
could change on a heartbeat because of an executive order.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Right And at the end of the day, I said,
I just have to ask, you know, if these are
the Republicans and they aren't going to step up to
fight to protect children, then why are we wasting our
time in Colorado?

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
These people were elected to represent us and they aren't
even doing that. They're putting in the bare minimum. And
these are the Republicans in solid safe red districts doing
the bare minimum in these committee hearings, and it's embarrassing
and it's offensive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
What happened with the bill in the committee.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Right along party lines?

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Yeah yeah, I mean, honestly, Rich, maybe that's why they
were disengaged, because they knew that it was going to
die on party lines, and they didn't want to put
their necks out when they feel like Donald Trump has
done something, you know, and I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Yeah, Well, Donald Trump has opened the door. He's holding
it open for us to walk through, and it's up
to the States to walk through the door he's holding open.
And Colorado is falling flat on its face right now. Well,
you're asking Republicans, you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
You were asking for courage from a group of people
that are not particularly known for showing courage in these situations.
So what's next, rich You're going to start? When are
we launching the Save Women's Sports Initiative here in Colorado?

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
That starts on February nineteenth, here in Terry Creek. We'll
be putting it on on the Protect Kit's Colorado website.
You can plan up and come. We're going to have
the funder either. That's going to be a lot of fun.
We're going to have some fun. People there. Don't want
to give any means away, but show up and support it.
You know, I'll tell you it costs a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
To do this.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
Just printing costs alone. After the petitions is going to
run right around ten thousand dollars, so hotly mad questions. Yeah,
so it's expensive. So and I actually pole to show up.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
I actually think that Trump signing that executive order is
going to make it tougher for you guys, because people
are going to be like, oh, that box has been checked.
So we got to make sure the messaging gets out
that that is an executive order and it's our responsibility
to protect girls in our state.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
And I think that's going to be important. But people
that can show up, sign up protect kids Colorado. We're
on all the social teams, not they'll follow us against
groomers or myself fifty two eighty based homo. We're going
to be blessed. I love I know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Every time I see your handle on Twitter, I laugh.
I'm not gonna lie. I think it's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
But we're going to be working hard on this. And
if you're able to come to our fundraisers, or if
you're able to support us as a volunteer, or if
you're looking for people to you can host an event
your community and have us come speak, please let us know.
We are going to need all hands even for this,
because I can tell you last year. This last time

(01:31:53):
we did it, Organizations like one Colorado raised quarter million
dollars to defeat it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Wow, all right, Rach. We'll get John right before that
so we can remind people and they can come out
and support it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
All right, thank you many, No problem.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
That's Rich Gugenheim, Gaze against Groomer's protect kids Colorado, all
kinds of good stuff. He is looking out for your
kids even if other people are not. All right, Rach,
I'll talk to you to my friend May. All right,
you know that is I think it is gonna make
it harder because of Trump's executive order. But that executive
order is it's only good for four years.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
I do think.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
That the tide is shifting when it comes to people
feeling comfortable saying, you know what, I support the right
of people to do what they want, but I don't
support the right of boys to compete in girls' sports.
I think that you can hold those two even if
you believe that children should be able to transition, which

(01:32:50):
I think is horribly wrong. You can still believe that
children should be able to transition while also believing that
uh boys who went through puberty should not be allowed
to compete in girls' sports. I mean, it's a it's
just a fundamental issue of fairness, right and I don't know,
it's we got a lot of stuff going on. It's

(01:33:11):
just crazy right now. It's absolutely crazy. By the way,
I have a great video on the blog today, British
high schoolers tried taco Bell for the first time and
even in the UK they had heard that taco bell
sends you to the toilet and I laughed really hard,
but boy did they love Taco Bell. Grant Smith has
joined us in the studio.

Speaker 11 (01:33:31):
I had Taco Bell yesterday for the first time in
a while, and man it hit the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Let me just say that this today for lunch, I
had a burrito that I made at home with the
refried beans that I made myself and the taco meat
like some nice olives and some avocado.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
I don't even know.

Speaker 11 (01:33:48):
Taco bell, because that burrita was delicious well, and it's
probably cheaper than taco bell nowadays.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Yeah, and it was definitely made with food I could
identify easily, very easily. What is on the latest Taking
It for Granted podcast?

Speaker 11 (01:34:02):
Grant really fun conversation and kind of deeper than I expected.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
With Ken Solomon.

Speaker 11 (01:34:07):
He was the super mascot Rocky for the Denver Nuggets
for like thirty three years.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
You're talking how much money made.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
I did not, Oh why, oh God, because I knew.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
It was almost like six and fifty grand.

Speaker 11 (01:34:18):
He earned it though, I know, especially with how much
the athletes get paid nowadays. But we did talk about
some of his epic on court shenanigans with Charles Barkley.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
We remembered to kim Ba Matumbo and then got.

Speaker 11 (01:34:29):
Into his personal life like we do in every episode
of the Taking It for Granted podcast, and he went
through some tough times and you see credits be having
to be Rocky and be that positive person a lot
of times when he was down to saving him through
really hard times in his life.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
Let me just say this, sometimes, when you're feeling blue,
act happy, right, I mean, because because you're your mood
will change. And it sounds so stupid and so fake,
but that'll fake it till you make it. And this
is becoming very well known in some behavioral cognitive therapy
circles that when you're feeling really blue, pretend you're not.

(01:35:08):
And amazingly, and I'm not talking about you're suffering from
a major depressive disorder or something like that. But if
you're just having a crappy time, sometimes pretending that you're
not is all it takes to sort of lift your
and elevate.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Your own mood.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
And I know this from experience.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Yeah, so I give myself.

Speaker 11 (01:35:23):
I used to think this was so cheesy, but you
know those mornings when you wake up and you're.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Like, God, it's only Wednesday.

Speaker 11 (01:35:28):
We got three more days of work this week, and
you just fake smile in the ear and if you
do that, you literally can feel it change within your body.
And he credits I don't want to give away too
much of the episode, but he was having this really
dark period in his life and he went to this
event and this little girl and her mom and I'm
gonna get choked up talking about it right now, but

(01:35:50):
this little girl that had him sign the Rocky mascot
and just say how much joy that he brought to
her life, and like He's like that pulled me out
of my funk again.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Made me realize what I was doing was important.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
I have a different podcast on the blog today and
I meant to mention her earlier because are you familiar
with diary of the CEO.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Do you ever listen to Stephen Bartlett? I have heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
I don't listen to it often, but I've heard clips
super fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Did I not put this on the blog?

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
I thought I put it on the blog, and apparently
I did not put it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
On the blog. But I will put it on the blog.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Because it was such a good podcast about dopamine and
how dopamine affects your brain and addiction. I learned more
about brain chemistry in this one podcast than I learned
in all of my years in college and high school
and everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
So did I not put that on the blog?

Speaker 11 (01:36:38):
And we've talked about the hub before, and man, yeah, well,
well knowledge.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
I know, we have so much knowledge at our fingertips.
So many of us just just don't we put the
gloves on.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
And focus on the bs and the hate.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Yeah exactly. Hi, Mandy, did I tell you I got
guessed the other day for a buck eighty nine?

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
I got it a taco bell.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
And now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of It's Kine the World of the day.
All right, there you go, What is our dad joke
of the day?

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
Are you going to top that taco bell.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
I know that was a good one right there on
the text line.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I know you set the bar pretty highly there. I
think we're pretty low.

Speaker 8 (01:37:21):
How do you follow Will Smith in the snow? How
do you follow this illow? Will Smith in the snow?

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
I don't know? You follow gorhead? Go ahead? Do you
follow the fresh prince?

Speaker 11 (01:37:33):
That's what I was So there's gonna be something fresh prince.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Really, that's hilarious. I love that. What's our word of
the day, please hyphenated one here today?

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Ad lib?

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Ad lib. Just make up stuff on the fly, just
like you know, vamp rift day. The thing what I
do for three hours, every single thing. If people think
I mapped this out, you are terribly terribly wrong. Okay.
I love today's trivia question, and I already know the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Ha ha.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
In tabletop role playing games like Dungeons and Dragons, what
is a D twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
I know the answer.

Speaker 8 (01:38:09):
I'm not big enough of a nerdy, don't I have
a big enough NERD twenty sided dot correct?

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
That is correct? Appreciate it. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
You play Dungeons and Dragons with a great dungeon master.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
So good, so so good to take your word for it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Yeah, if you can play it with theater people, even better,
even better? All right, what is our Jeopardy category, Zach,
Jeopardy category today?

Speaker 8 (01:38:32):
Oh yeah, jeopardy excuse me, Jeopardy category today? Is Please
rise for our national dot dot dot oh dot. You
give me what the national whatever it is? Okay, first one,
you're pretty simple.

Speaker 11 (01:38:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Please rise for our national bird bird the bald eagle
Dan in the form of a question.

Speaker 11 (01:38:53):
Okay, sorry, I haven't been in in a while.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
I'm giving you the point, but I'm not doing it again.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:39:01):
Please rise for our national motto this foreword for Randy?

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
What iss?

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
That is correct? Okay? One one?

Speaker 8 (01:39:11):
Please rise for our national symbol of the USA itself.
In nineteen fifty, the nation said I want you to
this finger pointer.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Manny, uncle Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
That's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
I was thinking of like a symbol, Like I was like,
what is this shield with the eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
In a Yeah, let's seem more complicated kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
Along those lines here, What a rise for our national
floral emblem. In proclaiming it, Reagan pointed out that the
White House has a garden of them.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
We should both know this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
I think that it is h Okay, I don't know
if I want to sit on my lad Mandy, what
a roses?

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
That is correct?

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Last one for.

Speaker 8 (01:39:56):
Please rise for our national march. This eternal SUSA piece
got the gig in nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
No I it is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Mandy, what a stars and stripe forever? That is correct?

Speaker 11 (01:40:11):
A category? You should have known all of them? Yes,
and I shouldn't even have got a point there, but
thank you for the sympathy. I'll just give you the
pity point.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
All right, guys, we got KOA Sports coming up next tomorrow.
We've already got a really good plan a show planned
for you. You guys, wait until you hear this story that
Cherry Pivee covered at Complete Colorado any minute now. We're
going to have a lifetime movie. And because it's so
crazy and it has to do with the district, the
Denver District Attorney's office and now disbarred attorney Craig Gray,

(01:40:42):
we're going to talk to her tomorrow about that, and
we're also going to talk to constitutional attorney John You
out of Berkeley about how constitutional all these executive orders
really are. All that coming up tomorrow, keep it right
here on KOA