MAKE SURE YOU AREN'T TAKING YOUR GUN SOMEWHERE YOU CAN'T NOW Because in addition to a whole bunch of other laws that take effect today there is a whole bunch more places you can't legally carry your firearm no matter how much training or licensing you have. Read what kicks in today and there is a lot, and consider buying yourself some non lethal protection for carrying everywhere in Colorado these days. Find out more about the HERO 2020 here and I've got one of the companies founders on the show today to talk about it. I get to shoot it today too! Woot!
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A whole bunch of new laws gointo effect, and gun control laws are
among them. Eight new gun lawspast year will prohibit Colorados from carrying guns
in so called sensitive spaces. Thisis school's, childcare facilities, polling places,
courthouses, and certain government buildings.We already know that in the city
of Denver, you're not supposed tocarry in one of their parks, regardless
(00:23):
of how many whacked out, drugaddled people are actually in the park with
you. And so I am pleasedas punch to have with me one of
the founders of a new advertiser thatI have on the show. But I'm
not having him on because he's anadvertiser. I'm having him on because this
is the perfect solution for a growingproblem. And the growing problem is that
(00:46):
gun owners are having their rights restricted, and they're having the rights restricted in
such a way that could actually impactyour ability to protect yourself and your family.
And so people are looking at alternativesand joining me now, Dan down
and Dan Awski, Dan and II tried to add another Dan and Awski,
dan Awski from Hero twenty twenty joiningme in the studio. Dan,
(01:07):
welcome to the show. Thank you. Ben it's a pleasure to be here
today and looking forward to it.You guys, you're not You don't have
a background in firearms, you know, we don't, neither myself nor my
partner, Dave Clements has a backgroundin firearms. But we both have the
same types of situations that have happenedin our lives that have caused us to
(01:29):
have concern. And with that concern, then we started a whole new company.
So tell me about that situation.So basically it started out David and
I were college roommates together almost fiftyyears ago, wow, And we met
because we were musicians. Dave wasa guitar player, an elite singer,
(01:49):
and I was a drummer. Whatwas the name of your band? The
name was Destiny. There was,there was, And we had a great
time when we were in college,and we probably spent more time worried about
the band than we did about oureducations. So you know, we got
a great education that way. Butthat's how David and I met, and
we kept in touch for years.But a few years ago both of us
(02:14):
had a very eye opening situation.So David had a close friend female that
was shot and killed in her homewith an intruder, okay, And within
a month or so of that,I had a daughter who was in college
at one of the universities, andshe was out on a walking trail and
(02:35):
she happened to be about four orfive hundred yards behind the girl that was
attacked, was tackled, was drugoff into the woods and the bushes,
and was raped and killed. Bothof us had very traumatic experiences in our
lives, and after that we said, you know, we need to do
something. So what we did iswe got together and we bought every every
(03:00):
single self defense device that we couldfind on the market, and we bought
them from all over the world.Why did you go in that direction right
away? Because you know, therethere are those individuals who feel comfortable with
guns, and there is a lotof individuals who don't feel comfortable with guns,
and they are probably the most vulnerablebecause not only do they not feel
(03:23):
comfortable with that, but they probablydon't feel comfortable with defending themselves either.
And so you know, in neitherone of these two individuals, both David's
friend and my daughter, either oneof them felt comfortable with guns who would
never carry. And so we decidedwe need to do something. So after
we evaluated all of these different productsand at the time, which was back
(03:43):
in about five years ago, wecome to the conclusion that there was nothing
out on the market that was reallya good product that was designed and developed
specifically for women and for the forthose individuals who didn't want to carry a
gun. And so that's how Herogot started. And I will say this,
(04:04):
I have seen many different non lethalthings. You either have to be
too close for comfort in my ifyou have a taser or something like that,
which I carried for years when Iwas younger, But then a firearms
instructor actually said to me, youhave to be close enough to use that,
and they can easily take that outof your hand if they overpower you.
(04:27):
And so the close quarters of someof these non lethal weapons even made
me go, Okay, that's notgoing to work for me. And then
to the other extreme, you haveessentially modified paintball guns that's too big to
carry in a way that allows youto go about your business and not feel
like you've got this paintball gun righton you right. And the other thing
(04:50):
associated with that the paintball industry is, as you may know, when you
go to a paintball tournament or yougo to do that, everybody's dressed up
in protective clothing, okay, Andso paintball guns are tuned up for people
to be protected. Okay. Nowwhen you take that protection away and you
bring that into the general public,then the paintball guns have to be tuned
(05:11):
down, you know, because ofthe legal requirements associated with their So basically
what happens if you is you havea paintball gun. It shoots a plastic
projectile. That projectile may or maynot break. It doesn't crush, it
doesn't open up. It basically itbreaks at the seam, and so you
have a spit, if you will, of powder that comes out of that
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tepper powder pa is what they callit, but guess is what it is.
And so you know, when whenyou're looking at that the paintball guns,
there are some really good products.And I like, I like paintball.
I've had paintball guns. I hatebecause when they hit you, I
don't I want to. It's myonly paintball experience covered in bruises and I
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was like, no, I don'twant that ever again. That was my
first one. Too. Of mykids thought it was really great. I'm
out putting Dad and Bruce out.Yeah, I'm good yep. But the
Hero products, there's two products.There's the Hero product and there's the aerow
product. Both of them do havea tear gas space. One of them
is powder base, one of themis liquid base. And to your point
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about distance, most municipalities, andyou know, wherever you live, you
have to check what the regulations are, but most municipalities will define what your
personal space is. And so ifsomeone is inside of that personal space,
then you have the legal right todefend yourself. If they're outside of that
space, they're just yelling at yourwhatever, but they haven't come into your
(06:39):
space, then you know that thelaws get a little tricky there. And
so you know, when we designedthe aerow product and the Hero product,
we designed them for being right asyou cross into your personal space. So
fet what are we talking about?Ten the fifteen feet is what's normally described.
There are some states where they usethe twenty one foot rule. That's
crazy, but that's what they use. And so you know, so we
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had to develop products that will workwithin twenty feet and work effectively, right,
but they're not they're not as dangerousas we'll say a paintball gun with
someone, because you know, whenyou do shoot someone, whether it's with
a paintball gun or whether it's ahero or whatever, you still run the
risk of if you injure them.Right, what's the law going to say?
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Right? You have to be ableto defend what you've done, why
you've done it, same as ifyou were defending yourself if you hauld use
lethal force. So how did youmake these different? Are these not the
because these these the hero and theand the arrow. The arrow looks like
a remote control. That's what Ialways think of it is like, it
looks like the hero is more likea traditional firearm shape, though it is
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not in any way shape or form. Nobody's going to look at it and
say, oh, you're holding agun. It doesn't look like that,
but it does have more of thetraditional ship the same way. Yeah.
So yeah, So basically, thehero which shoots the ball, the tear
gas projectile. It shoots at aspeed of one hundred and fifty one hundred
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and sixty feet per second, right, so it's moving right. A paintball
gun will shoot at about two hundredand fifty feet per second when it's tuned
down to be used as self defense. And so you know, the kinetic
energy that happens there is different.So what we had to do because we
wanted it to be slower a littlebit, because we wanted it to be
(08:33):
less dangerous. You know, wecall it non lethal, so that means
if it hits somebody in the atomsapple for instance, we don't want it
to break their atoms apple, right, Okay, so we had to tune
it down a little bit. Butwhat we use is we use a propriet
proprietary substance for creating the ball,and it crushes at a different rate than
(08:54):
a plastic ball would. And soeven though you have a slower projectile,
you have actually a better explosion ifyou will power because of the design of
the ball itself. I find itinteresting that you guys put so much attention
into the non lethal part that youwant to make sure that someone is not
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going to accidentally kill someone or ifthat, you know, it would be
so outside the realm of normal usagerpossibility. And I because you don't want
people to go to jail for takingout a bad guy accidentally when they were
just trying to you know, incapacitatethemselves so they could run away, you
know, And I don't this.This statement I'm about to make is an
(09:39):
opinion, so I'll leave it atthat. So I have some very good
friends that are very big gun enthusiasts. They go to competitions, they have
a lot of carry permits, theygo from the state to state, they
do quite a bit of things inthat area. And what they've told me
is, they said, Dan,if you pull out a lethal weapon and
(10:00):
you shoot somebody, whether you havethe right to be doing that because you're
being attacked or whatever, you canpretty well bet that it's going to cost
you one hundred thousand dollars in legalfees to defend yourself, defend yourself and
the entanglements that are there. That'sone of the reasons we didn't want Hero
to be a lethal product. Well, we see what the Denver Police Department
(10:24):
went through after the protest by usingpepper balls and using things of that nature
that fired at a higher rate.And hundreds of thousand dollars of dollars of
settlements. And if you think ajury won't award a criminal a settlement,
you're not paying attention. You're absolutelyright so when you have there are some
competitors out there for non lethal stuff, what is different about the Hero twenty
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twenty, Like, what are thethings that you guys put in there to
distinguish them from other means of nonlethal protection? Okay, Well, like
you said, when you look ata Hero, which is the projectile launcher,
it looks kind of like a gun, but it doesn't really look like
a gun, right, And thatwas on purpose. So the trigger,
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for instance, on the Hero usesthe two middle fingers. Now, it's
done that way because it then allowsyou to lay the index finger along the
barrel of the gun and there's aplace there for your finger to lie.
What that does if you take andyou point your index finger at anything that's
within a room, you're right onit, right. And so what that
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does is that helps an individual who'snot comfortable with a gun, who hasn't
done a lot of shooting at therange or does it, you know,
and they immediately they're able to pullthe launcher out, they're able to use
it, they're able to be veryaccurate with it. To be clear,
the purpose of this and is ifyou're in a situation where you're being confronted
by an attacker. You're gonna shootthem with one of these pepperballs. It's
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gonna explode. It's gonna give youenough time to get away. That's the
purpose here, right, That isabsolutely the purpose. So if you look
at something like a taser, ataser will assemble somebody for about thirty seconds
and then they're back up again.The pepper ball, and I say pepper
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ball, but it's really a teargas ball. The tear gas ball will
incapacitate somebody for about twenty minutes.Okay, so in twenty minutes, that
gives you plenty of time to getaway. You know. One of my
favorite shows when I was a youngyounger guy growing up was the if you
remember Miogi song and Daniel song,Oh yeah from Karate Kid. From Karate
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Kid, wax on, wax off, that's right, And Daniel asked mister
Miyagi, what's the best block?Miogi looks at him, he says,
best block. No, be there, ah. That is the whole purpose
is to give yourself the opportunity toget out. I got a couple of
text messages asking a similar question,Mandy, I have a hero twenty twenty.
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I think it's better because it doesn'tlook like a pistol so much.
The Burna, on the other hand, which is one of your competitors,
is shaped exactly like a semi automaticpistol, with the only thing that makes
it unique to a normal pistol isthe orange color. The big question is
whether average law enforcement officer will beable to distinguish a firearm from a Hero
twenty twenty if it is in myhand and not unload their rounds on me.
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Now, in theory, after youfired this weapon, you are leaving
the scene, and at that point, if you encounter a police officer,
drop whatever you have in your hands. That is the best. And sure,
I don't care if it's your cellphone in your hands. Drop whatever's
in your hands, and that shouldtake care of a lot of the problems.
It should. And the other thingis that the Hero twenty twenty has
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red markings on it, and redmarkings is the notification to a law enforcement
officer or to a fire enforcement andso forth that it is non lethal.
So just like if you have aan airsoft, have a red plug in
right, that's to indicate that itis non lethal. But I will say
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those guns have been mistaken for realguns. This would be a lot harder
to mistake for a real guys,especially the arrow product. There's no way
that they're going to mistake that unlessthey really can't see it. But again,
what you're gonna do is fire thisin a situation and then run the
hell away, and when you runinto a cop, you drop whatever's in
your hand. Anyway, that shouldjust be standard procedure. This is a
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good question. Is there a wayto train and practice with these? Yeah,
so we sell trainer cartridges, andso those trainer cartridges basically have the
same setup, only instead of shootinga tear gas ball, basically they shoot
a ball filled with baby powder.Yeah, so boom. Yes, and
here's the thing, you guys.I've shot this thing. I own this
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thing. This is literally the easiestthing to use I have ever had in
my hand in my life. Itis almost idiot proof. I hate to
say that, because there's always anidiot out there that's going to disprove me.
But this is, in my estimation, the perfect protection weapon for a
college student. Because more colleges aresaying you cannot bring a firearm to campus.
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You don't have to have a concealedcarry permit for women who are reticent
about owning a firearm. This thinghas no kick at all, I mean
none, And you could quote trainyourself on how to use this in ten
minutes. It is that. Itis that simple. It is. It
is. And you know, wehave had individuals that are We've had females
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that are in their eighties year oldand they shoot this and they you know,
they're very nervous and if you puta gun in their hand, they
would they would not even touch it, right, But you put this in
their hand and they're shooting it andthey're feeling comfortable with it, and they're
saying, I can do this.Well, somebody else said, what if
somebody's trying to break into your house? Okay, so there you want to
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This is what I would do ifsomebody was breaking into my house, I
would probably shoot at the floor orsomething in front of them. So I
got a big cloud that covered thewhole. Add right now, you will
have to clean your house, yeah, you know, and that can be
done easily enough, but you dohave to consider concern yourself with that.
But you know, if you've gotsomeone in your house, a little bit
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of cleaning is a whole lot betterwell than having a problem. Somebody said,
do you aim at the face?Never aim at the face. You
always aim at center mass. Youwant to hit them right in the middle
of the chest. Whether you're shootinga firearm or the Hero twenty twenty.
Your aim is not good enough tohit somebody in the face, Just hit
them in the chest. That's right. And when we test our products,
we basically take our test dummies andwe pad them up so that it more
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closely represents what a human might bein different body styles. One last question
before I make dan play of theday. Is there a safety on it
or is it always ready to fire? There is a safety on it,
and so the safety basically activates aset of lights and a laser as well.
Now, those are your first lineof defense. If you have somebody
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shining a very bright light. It'sa six hundred lumen light, and if
you're shining in your face and youreyes, you will naturally turn away.
That's your first opportunity to get outof there. And if somebody sees a
laser on them, they're naturally trainedto think, oh no, oh crap,
that's right, that's right. That'syour second opportunity. To get away.
Your third opportunity is then after youfire them. Okay, the shelfly
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for pepperballs, how long do theylast? We we we warranty them for
two years. Okay, you knowthey do last longer than that, but
our standard warranty is for two years. All right. If you want more
information or you want to go aheadand buy one, go to Hero non
Lethal dot Com. That's Hero nonLethal dot Com to get ten percent off.
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Use my promo code Mandy at checkoutand now, Dan, it's what
I'm going to give you one morething, one more little gift for your
Okay, okay, besides the tenpercent off. Because it's the fourth of
July. Normally we have two cartridgeswithin the kit that you buy, we're
going to give you four. Allright, it's a fourth of July special.
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Now's the time, my friends,now's the time. Hero non Lethal
dot Com is the website. AndI'm an uber driver. If I have
to use it in the car whileI be incapacitated to yes, could,
yes, you very well could.An arrow would be better for you.
Yeah. The little remote control Jammer
A whole bunch of new laws gointo effect, and gun control laws are
among them. Eight new gun lawspast year will prohibit Colorados from carrying guns
in so called sensitive spaces. Thisis school's, childcare facilities, polling places,
courthouses, and certain government buildings.We already know that in the city
of Denver, you're not supposed tocarry in one of their parks, regardless
(00:23):
of how many whacked out, drugaddled people are actually in the park with
you. And so I am pleasedas punch to have with me one of
the founders of a new advertiser thatI have on the show. But I'm
not having him on because he's anadvertiser. I'm having him on because this
is the perfect solution for a growingproblem. And the growing problem is that
(00:46):
gun owners are having their rights restricted, and they're having the rights restricted in
such a way that could actually impactyour ability to protect yourself and your family.
And so people are looking at alternativesand joining me now, Dan down
and Dan Awski, Dan and II tried to add another Dan and Awski,
dan Awski from Hero twenty twenty joiningme in the studio. Dan,
(01:07):
welcome to the show. Thank you. Ben it's a pleasure to be here
today and looking forward to it.You guys, you're not You don't have
a background in firearms, you know, we don't, neither myself nor my
partner, Dave Clements has a backgroundin firearms. But we both have the
same types of situations that have happenedin our lives that have caused us to
(01:29):
have concern. And with that concern, then we started a whole new company.
So tell me about that situation.So basically it started out David and
I were college roommates together almost fiftyyears ago, wow, And we met
because we were musicians. Dave wasa guitar player, an elite singer,
(01:49):
and I was a drummer. Whatwas the name of your band? The
name was Destiny. There was,there was, And we had a great
time when we were in college,and we probably spent more time worried about
the band than we did about oureducations. So you know, we got
a great education that way. Butthat's how David and I met, and
we kept in touch for years.But a few years ago both of us
(02:14):
had a very eye opening situation.So David had a close friend female that
was shot and killed in her homewith an intruder, okay, And within
a month or so of that,I had a daughter who was in college
at one of the universities, andshe was out on a walking trail and
(02:35):
she happened to be about four orfive hundred yards behind the girl that was
attacked, was tackled, was drugoff into the woods and the bushes,
and was raped and killed. Bothof us had very traumatic experiences in our
lives, and after that we said, you know, we need to do
something. So what we did iswe got together and we bought every every
(03:00):
single self defense device that we couldfind on the market, and we bought
them from all over the world.Why did you go in that direction right
away? Because you know, therethere are those individuals who feel comfortable with
guns, and there is a lotof individuals who don't feel comfortable with guns,
and they are probably the most vulnerablebecause not only do they not feel
(03:23):
comfortable with that, but they probablydon't feel comfortable with defending themselves either.
And so you know, in neitherone of these two individuals, both David's
friend and my daughter, either oneof them felt comfortable with guns who would
never carry. And so we decidedwe need to do something. So after
we evaluated all of these different productsand at the time, which was back
(03:43):
in about five years ago, wecome to the conclusion that there was nothing
out on the market that was reallya good product that was designed and developed
specifically for women and for the forthose individuals who didn't want to carry a
gun. And so that's how Herogot started. And I will say this,
(04:04):
I have seen many different non lethalthings. You either have to be
too close for comfort in my ifyou have a taser or something like that,
which I carried for years when Iwas younger, But then a firearms
instructor actually said to me, youhave to be close enough to use that,
and they can easily take that outof your hand if they overpower you.
(04:27):
And so the close quarters of someof these non lethal weapons even made
me go, Okay, that's notgoing to work for me. And then
to the other extreme, you haveessentially modified paintball guns that's too big to
carry in a way that allows youto go about your business and not feel
like you've got this paintball gun righton you right. And the other thing
(04:50):
associated with that the paintball industry is, as you may know, when you
go to a paintball tournament or yougo to do that, everybody's dressed up
in protective clothing, okay, Andso paintball guns are tuned up for people
to be protected. Okay. Nowwhen you take that protection away and you
bring that into the general public,then the paintball guns have to be tuned
(05:11):
down, you know, because ofthe legal requirements associated with their So basically
what happens if you is you havea paintball gun. It shoots a plastic
projectile. That projectile may or maynot break. It doesn't crush, it
doesn't open up. It basically itbreaks at the seam, and so you
have a spit, if you will, of powder that comes out of that
(05:33):
tepper powder pa is what they callit, but guess is what it is.
And so you know, when whenyou're looking at that the paintball guns,
there are some really good products.And I like, I like paintball.
I've had paintball guns. I hatebecause when they hit you, I
don't I want to. It's myonly paintball experience covered in bruises and I
(05:55):
was like, no, I don'twant that ever again. That was my
first one. Too. Of mykids thought it was really great. I'm
out putting Dad and Bruce out.Yeah, I'm good yep. But the
Hero products, there's two products.There's the Hero product and there's the aerow
product. Both of them do havea tear gas space. One of them
is powder base, one of themis liquid base. And to your point
(06:17):
about distance, most municipalities, andyou know, wherever you live, you
have to check what the regulations are, but most municipalities will define what your
personal space is. And so ifsomeone is inside of that personal space,
then you have the legal right todefend yourself. If they're outside of that
space, they're just yelling at yourwhatever, but they haven't come into your
(06:39):
space, then you know that thelaws get a little tricky there. And
so you know, when we designedthe aerow product and the Hero product,
we designed them for being right asyou cross into your personal space. So
fet what are we talking about?Ten the fifteen feet is what's normally described.
There are some states where they usethe twenty one foot rule. That's
crazy, but that's what they use. And so you know, so we
(07:02):
had to develop products that will workwithin twenty feet and work effectively, right,
but they're not they're not as dangerousas we'll say a paintball gun with
someone, because you know, whenyou do shoot someone, whether it's with
a paintball gun or whether it's ahero or whatever, you still run the
risk of if you injure them.Right, what's the law going to say?
(07:26):
Right? You have to be ableto defend what you've done, why
you've done it, same as ifyou were defending yourself if you hauld use
lethal force. So how did youmake these different? Are these not the
because these these the hero and theand the arrow. The arrow looks like
a remote control. That's what Ialways think of it is like, it
looks like the hero is more likea traditional firearm shape, though it is
(07:51):
not in any way shape or form. Nobody's going to look at it and
say, oh, you're holding agun. It doesn't look like that,
but it does have more of thetraditional ship the same way. Yeah.
So yeah, So basically, thehero which shoots the ball, the tear
gas projectile. It shoots at aspeed of one hundred and fifty one hundred
(08:11):
and sixty feet per second, right, so it's moving right. A paintball
gun will shoot at about two hundredand fifty feet per second when it's tuned
down to be used as self defense. And so you know, the kinetic
energy that happens there is different.So what we had to do because we
wanted it to be slower a littlebit, because we wanted it to be
(08:33):
less dangerous. You know, wecall it non lethal, so that means
if it hits somebody in the atomsapple for instance, we don't want it
to break their atoms apple, right, Okay, so we had to tune
it down a little bit. Butwhat we use is we use a propriet
proprietary substance for creating the ball,and it crushes at a different rate than
(08:54):
a plastic ball would. And soeven though you have a slower projectile,
you have actually a better explosion ifyou will power because of the design of
the ball itself. I find itinteresting that you guys put so much attention
into the non lethal part that youwant to make sure that someone is not
(09:16):
going to accidentally kill someone or ifthat, you know, it would be
so outside the realm of normal usagerpossibility. And I because you don't want
people to go to jail for takingout a bad guy accidentally when they were
just trying to you know, incapacitatethemselves so they could run away, you
know, And I don't this.This statement I'm about to make is an
(09:39):
opinion, so I'll leave it atthat. So I have some very good
friends that are very big gun enthusiasts. They go to competitions, they have
a lot of carry permits, theygo from the state to state, they
do quite a bit of things inthat area. And what they've told me
is, they said, Dan,if you pull out a lethal weapon and
(10:00):
you shoot somebody, whether you havethe right to be doing that because you're
being attacked or whatever, you canpretty well bet that it's going to cost
you one hundred thousand dollars in legalfees to defend yourself, defend yourself and
the entanglements that are there. That'sone of the reasons we didn't want Hero
to be a lethal product. Well, we see what the Denver Police Department
(10:24):
went through after the protest by usingpepper balls and using things of that nature
that fired at a higher rate.And hundreds of thousand dollars of dollars of
settlements. And if you think ajury won't award a criminal a settlement,
you're not paying attention. You're absolutelyright so when you have there are some
competitors out there for non lethal stuff, what is different about the Hero twenty
(10:48):
twenty, Like, what are thethings that you guys put in there to
distinguish them from other means of nonlethal protection? Okay, Well, like
you said, when you look ata Hero, which is the projectile launcher,
it looks kind of like a gun, but it doesn't really look like
a gun, right, And thatwas on purpose. So the trigger,
(11:09):
for instance, on the Hero usesthe two middle fingers. Now, it's
done that way because it then allowsyou to lay the index finger along the
barrel of the gun and there's aplace there for your finger to lie.
What that does if you take andyou point your index finger at anything that's
within a room, you're right onit, right. And so what that
(11:31):
does is that helps an individual who'snot comfortable with a gun, who hasn't
done a lot of shooting at therange or does it, you know,
and they immediately they're able to pullthe launcher out, they're able to use
it, they're able to be veryaccurate with it. To be clear,
the purpose of this and is ifyou're in a situation where you're being confronted
by an attacker. You're gonna shootthem with one of these pepperballs. It's
(11:52):
gonna explode. It's gonna give youenough time to get away. That's the
purpose here, right, That isabsolutely the purpose. So if you look
at something like a taser, ataser will assemble somebody for about thirty seconds
and then they're back up again.The pepper ball, and I say pepper
(12:13):
ball, but it's really a teargas ball. The tear gas ball will
incapacitate somebody for about twenty minutes.Okay, so in twenty minutes, that
gives you plenty of time to getaway. You know. One of my
favorite shows when I was a youngyounger guy growing up was the if you
remember Miogi song and Daniel song,Oh yeah from Karate Kid. From Karate
(12:35):
Kid, wax on, wax off, that's right, And Daniel asked mister
Miyagi, what's the best block?Miogi looks at him, he says,
best block. No, be there, ah. That is the whole purpose
is to give yourself the opportunity toget out. I got a couple of
text messages asking a similar question,Mandy, I have a hero twenty twenty.
(12:56):
I think it's better because it doesn'tlook like a pistol so much.
The Burna, on the other hand, which is one of your competitors,
is shaped exactly like a semi automaticpistol, with the only thing that makes
it unique to a normal pistol isthe orange color. The big question is
whether average law enforcement officer will beable to distinguish a firearm from a Hero
twenty twenty if it is in myhand and not unload their rounds on me.
(13:20):
Now, in theory, after youfired this weapon, you are leaving
the scene, and at that point, if you encounter a police officer,
drop whatever you have in your hands. That is the best. And sure,
I don't care if it's your cellphone in your hands. Drop whatever's
in your hands, and that shouldtake care of a lot of the problems.
It should. And the other thingis that the Hero twenty twenty has
(13:43):
red markings on it, and redmarkings is the notification to a law enforcement
officer or to a fire enforcement andso forth that it is non lethal.
So just like if you have aan airsoft, have a red plug in
right, that's to indicate that itis non lethal. But I will say
(14:05):
those guns have been mistaken for realguns. This would be a lot harder
to mistake for a real guys,especially the arrow product. There's no way
that they're going to mistake that unlessthey really can't see it. But again,
what you're gonna do is fire thisin a situation and then run the
hell away, and when you runinto a cop, you drop whatever's in
your hand. Anyway, that shouldjust be standard procedure. This is a
(14:26):
good question. Is there a wayto train and practice with these? Yeah,
so we sell trainer cartridges, andso those trainer cartridges basically have the
same setup, only instead of shootinga tear gas ball, basically they shoot
a ball filled with baby powder.Yeah, so boom. Yes, and
here's the thing, you guys.I've shot this thing. I own this
(14:48):
thing. This is literally the easiestthing to use I have ever had in
my hand in my life. Itis almost idiot proof. I hate to
say that, because there's always anidiot out there that's going to disprove me.
But this is, in my estimation, the perfect protection weapon for a
college student. Because more colleges aresaying you cannot bring a firearm to campus.
(15:09):
You don't have to have a concealedcarry permit for women who are reticent
about owning a firearm. This thinghas no kick at all, I mean
none, And you could quote trainyourself on how to use this in ten
minutes. It is that. Itis that simple. It is. It
is. And you know, wehave had individuals that are We've had females
(15:33):
that are in their eighties year oldand they shoot this and they you know,
they're very nervous and if you puta gun in their hand, they
would they would not even touch it, right, But you put this in
their hand and they're shooting it andthey're feeling comfortable with it, and they're
saying, I can do this.Well, somebody else said, what if
somebody's trying to break into your house? Okay, so there you want to
(15:56):
This is what I would do ifsomebody was breaking into my house, I
would probably shoot at the floor orsomething in front of them. So I
got a big cloud that covered thewhole. Add right now, you will
have to clean your house, yeah, you know, and that can be
done easily enough, but you dohave to consider concern yourself with that.
But you know, if you've gotsomeone in your house, a little bit
(16:18):
of cleaning is a whole lot betterwell than having a problem. Somebody said,
do you aim at the face?Never aim at the face. You
always aim at center mass. Youwant to hit them right in the middle
of the chest. Whether you're shootinga firearm or the Hero twenty twenty.
Your aim is not good enough tohit somebody in the face, Just hit
them in the chest. That's right. And when we test our products,
we basically take our test dummies andwe pad them up so that it more
(16:41):
closely represents what a human might bein different body styles. One last question
before I make dan play of theday. Is there a safety on it
or is it always ready to fire? There is a safety on it,
and so the safety basically activates aset of lights and a laser as well.
Now, those are your first lineof defense. If you have somebody
(17:02):
shining a very bright light. It'sa six hundred lumen light, and if
you're shining in your face and youreyes, you will naturally turn away.
That's your first opportunity to get outof there. And if somebody sees a
laser on them, they're naturally trainedto think, oh no, oh crap,
that's right, that's right. That'syour second opportunity. To get away.
Your third opportunity is then after youfire them. Okay, the shelfly
(17:22):
for pepperballs, how long do theylast? We we we warranty them for
two years. Okay, you knowthey do last longer than that, but
our standard warranty is for two years. All right. If you want more
information or you want to go aheadand buy one, go to Hero non
Lethal dot Com. That's Hero nonLethal dot Com to get ten percent off.
(17:45):
Use my promo code Mandy at checkoutand now, Dan, it's what
I'm going to give you one morething, one more little gift for your
Okay, okay, besides the tenpercent off. Because it's the fourth of
July. Normally we have two cartridgeswithin the kit that you buy, we're
going to give you four. Allright, it's a fourth of July special.
(18:07):
Now's the time, my friends,now's the time. Hero non Lethal
dot Com is the website. AndI'm an uber driver. If I have
to use it in the car whileI be incapacitated to yes, could,
yes, you very well could.An arrow would be better for you.
Yeah. The little remote control Jammer
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