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November 11, 2024 • 14 mins
CONGRATS TO SOON TO BE CONGRESSMAN GABE EVANS! As he was declared the victor in the 8th Congressional District race over the weekend. He joins me today at 2:30 to chat about it. Republicans need four more wins to keep control of the House and why does this take so damn long to count?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The congressman elect from the eighth Congressional District, Gabe Evans,
on the show yesterday the news broke that in a
I mean this is a squeaker of an election, Gabe
managed to defeat incumbent you near a caraveo and we'll
be going to Congress next January. Gabe, first of all,
Happy Veterans Day to you.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Let's start there, Thank you so much, thanks for the
invitation to come on the show. And then, as you
said to all of the veterans listening, thank you so
much for your service to your families as well.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was in the army twelve years.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
My wife was with me every minute of those twelve years,
and so I know that families serve right alongside the veterans,
our current service members. And again, from the bottom of
our hearts, thank you so much for putting country before self.
I'm for all of the sacrifices that you have made
and are continuing to make to keep us free.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
So how many gray hairs did the last five days
give you?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
No more than when I was deployed to the Middle East?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Career perspective, I guess, but man, I can't even imagine.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Did you sleep?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
How stressful. Was that just waiting and waiting and you
have no control over how long it takes to get
these votes in.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, you know, one of the things, the most important
thing that kept me going through this whole campaign was
just my fate. And so yeah, I actually, you know,
there were a couple of nights where I didn't sleep,
perhaps as great as I wanted to, but I actually
slept okay. And again that is I give credit to
God for giving me the strength and the courage and
just the calm to go through some of these really

(01:35):
tense moments in the campaign over the last seventeen months,
and then of course from election night up until Sunday afternoon.
And so God God gets the credit for those. And
then I spent again twenty two years in the military
and law enforcement. This isn't the first tense situation that
I've been in, and so just being able to fall
back on that training and those past experiences that I've

(01:57):
been through, you know, was really a big part of
being able to keep me calm. Coupled with my wife,
She's been my absolute rock through all of this. She
wrote it down so that I wouldn't I wish, so
that I would believe her. July eighteenth of twenty twenty three,
she wrote herself a note that said Gabe's winning Congress,
dated it, and then pulled it out on Sunday afternoon,

(02:19):
basically as I told you.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
So victory that.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
She's never once doubted that I was going to win this.
So she got her I told you so a moment yesterday.
And she's also been just fantastic, you know, in keeping
the calm and making sure that everything that needed to
happen happen.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I don't want to hex anything, but it looks like
you were going to be going to Congress with Republican
party holding the Senate, probably holding the House. We're still
waiting for several house races to be fully counted, and
a Republican president. This is a much different proposition than
Republicans have seen in the past. What are you hoping

(02:57):
that the first hundred days looks like for Congress? For
the president? What do you want to see happen right
out of the shoot?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, so previous times where we've had unified governments. You know, Republicans,
we are the party of independent thought, but that sometimes
means it also takes us a while to get organized
and we squander the opportunity to actually get things done
that make life better for all of our constituents.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
So being able to hit the ground running and fulfill.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
All of these promises that we talked about on the campaign,
making sure that we have a secure border, making sure
that we fix the crime problem, making sure that we
fix the economy so that the cost of living goes
down and people can actually afford to live, to get jobs,
to invest in the dream of home ownership, and start
building equity. These are all of the things that we
need to fix, and so I'm just so excited to
roll up my sleeves and be a part of that.

(03:45):
I know that a lot of Republican leadership has been
working very.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Diligently behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
You know, this credit here goes to folks like Speaker
Johnson for making sure that this isn't just you know,
cheap talking points, but we actually have well thought out
policy positions from which to be able to craft this legislation,
to be able to work with the community, work with
all of.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
The stakeholders, to make sure that we are.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Passing good, thoughtful bills that are pat people's lives better,
that are making the American dream more affordable, more attainable,
and that aren't having negative unintended second third and four
order effects.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I think that you guys this next Congress are going
to be under a lot of pressure from President Trump
because one of the things I believe that he learned
from his first term in office was that you can't
roll things out slowly. You've got to bring everything at
the same time in order, honestly to confuse your opponents. Right,
if you throw everything against the wall at the exact

(04:44):
same time, that's going to put a lot of pressure
on you guys and ladies to really get and work efficiently.
And to your point about the Republican Party being full
of independent minded thinkers, it is harder to corral everybody
and get everybody on the same page. Are you ready
to aggressively go after border enforcement in those things as

(05:05):
a member of this Congress, because I think that's where
it's going to start.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah. I mean, that's my life story.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Again, you've heard my story before.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I mean, I'm the grandson of an immigrant from Mexico,
and so I know that we have to make sure
that we have border security because you know, as a
lot of the Hispanic community that I interact with tells me,
they say, look, gay, we did it the right way.
And then we turn around and we see Cartel's criminal organizations.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
You know, folks coming across the border.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Not only doing it the wrong way, but literally taking
advantage of American society to continue to pedal drugs commit crimes.
I mean, you know, we saw what happened in Aurora
with trendy Araguas, and we know it's not limited to Aurora.
You can just go look at the news. They're busting
up aarbnd's and Evergreen. They're trying to take over apartment complexes.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
And other places.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And so being able to aggressively work to make sure
that the border is secure, that our territorial integrity is protected,
and that our homeland is safe from unwanted crossings or
illegal crossings is something that again in the military for
twelve years, I'm a veteran of the Global War on Terror.
I didn't spend a year in a combat zone for

(06:12):
terrists to be able to roll across our unsecured borders.
As a cop, I didn't spend a decade working in
our community for these criminal organizations to be able to
run around with absolute impunity and so being able to
aggressively work to solve these issues, to secure the border,
and to get these criminals who are legally present in
our country out of our country is going to be

(06:33):
something that I think you're right, We're going to aggressively
hit on day one.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, Gabe, I have experienced something with our immigration system
recently that is it's almost the most absurd thing I've
ever experienced in my life. A friend is married to
an irishman. They've been married for twenty years. He already
has some status here, but as he went back to
London to get an actual full time green cards because
he wants to be a citizen of the United States.

(06:58):
This is a man who has a job. This is
a man who has gainful employment. And if I could,
at some point, I will talk to you privately and
tell you the absolute ridiculous nature of what they're doing
to legal immigrants. And I said, Tom one point, I said,
you should just fly to Mexico and walk across the
southern border. You'd have a free apartment, you'd have a computer,
you'd have job training. I actually think that that is

(07:20):
to your point about legal immigrants that are here, saying
that's not right I think that's a big reason that
Donald Trump won and he had such gains with Hispanics.
To your point, so, legal immigration reform is something I'd
like to see happen, but after we secure the southern border,
not at the same time. I want it to be
after we've got to make it easier for people who

(07:43):
want to come here and work and be productive members
of society and contribute. We have to make it easier
for those people to get into this country while making
sure we are keeping people out across the southern border.
One other thing that I want to ask you about
is energy policy, because here in Colorado, our governor has
committed to destroying I think oil and gas in Colorado,

(08:04):
but Trump is indicated he wants to drill, baby, drill.
What are your thoughts on where our energy policy needs
to go and how would you see that affecting Colorado
when we have a state governor who is invested in
the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, so you're you're right on two counts there. First
of all, you're absolutely right, we've got to secure the border.
We've got to fix the broken system for those legal immigrants.
I talked to a gentleman on the campaign trail, same situation.
He's been in the United States with legal status for
seventeen years working to get his citizenship. He's originally from Brazil,
and he told me it's going to be at least
another four years before I get my citizenship.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Twenty one years.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
This guy has spent trying to do it the right way.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
And yet, as you said, if you just stroll across
the border, immediately you're rewarded.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
So we're rewarding.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
The people that do it the wrong way with all
of these taxpayer funded handouts, and the people that try
to do it the right way are spending two decades
or more trapped in a bureaucratic nightmare.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
That situation has to be reversed.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
We have to have a process that rewards the folks
like my grandfather, who earned his citizenship with two purple
hearts fighting in World War Two in Patten's third Army,
wounded in September nineteen forty four, in April nineteen forty five.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
We have to reward folks.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Like that who want to come to this country, who
are willing to spill their own blood for their new home,
with a more functional immigration system, and then you know,
of course we have to also focus as you said,
you know, the primary goal has to be the border security,
but we've got to fix the broken immigration system for
those legal immigrants who are committed to.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Doing it the right way.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And then with regard to energy policy, I mean, we've
got one of the highest energy producing districts in the
nation right here in Colorado. And not only that, we
produce some of the cleanest energy anywhere on the planet.
I've said repeatedly on the campaign trail down at the
state Capitol and to anyone who listens, natural gas produced
in Colorado is actually.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Cleaner than our current power grid is right now.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So if you have the option to run something off
of natural gas, say an RTD bus versus electricity and
electric ARTD bus, you are actually polluting less if you
run it off of natural gas, because natural gas is
cleaner than our power grid. So of course we have
to promote American energy. It's cleaner efficient, we get the
job benefits. We're surrounded by this thing called an atmosphere,

(10:22):
which means if we don't produce it here and it's
produced in other countries that do it less clean or
less efficiently, all of that pollution is still going to blow.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Right back here.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
If we replaced American natural gas in Europe with Russian
natural gas, we could save the world two hundred million
tons worth of carbon emissions every year because our natural
gas is forty to eighty percent cleaner than Russian natural gas.
So we have to empower the American energy economy. The
world needs more energy, not less energy. We do it better,

(10:55):
we do it cleaner than anybody else here in the
United States.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Here in Colorado, again, we save.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
The world two hundred million tons of carbon emissions every
year if we were able to replace Russian natural gas
going into Western Europe.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
With American natural gas.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
And so I am a huge supporter of our energy industry,
of course, making sure that we continue to have improvements
in how we protect our environment.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
But we've got to use technologies that are proven to work.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
And right now, again our energy is cleaner than really
any other energy produced in the world.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Our Congressmen, our new congressman for the eighth Congressional District,
Gabe Evans, is joining me today. Gabe, how much help
did you get for your campaign from the Republican Party.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Karon Colorado.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Not much.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I know that the Arizona Republican party did an ailire
for you, which which was nice but didn't get a
lot of help. I just wanted to get that out
there as victory laps are being taken by leadership. I
also want to ask you a weird question. Is it
weird watching football or whatever, sitting and watching TV and
seeing attack, AD attack, AD attack, AD attack, AD against

(12:05):
you against yourself? What is that like as a candidate?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Oh, I have no idea, because I just swore off
TV for like the last three months.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Trust me, we all did too, but but because we.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Saw them all.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
But I mean, that's got to be hard for your family.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, again, this is one of those things that you
learned in the military and law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
You learn how to protect yourself.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
And so I didn't watch a lot of TV these
last three months.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Of course I saw that all of the mailers in
the mailbox, and yeah, it's it's it's difficult, you know
to see the distortions and at times the outright lies
that come out. And it doesn't matter how many times
you repeat yourself and you know, try to set the
narrative straight.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know, folks that don't.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Want you elected are going to continue to push some
of these false narratives, but you know, at the end
of the day, our message resonated. I think folks saw,
you know, saw me for who I was, and and
they cast their votes. I'm so honored and privileged to
have the trust of a majority of the voters here
in Colorado's a congressional district. And again, even for those
folks who didn't vote for me, just like when I

(13:08):
was a cop, my political party didn't matter, Your political
party didn't matter. What mattered as we were here to
work together to find that common ground to make things
better for our community and everything that we've talked about,
safe communities, secure communities, protecting the territorial integrity of the
United States, making sure that we have a functional economy,
making sure that we take care of our environment by

(13:29):
actually following the science.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Those are all things that I.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Think a vast majority of folks in this district agree with,
believe in its basic common sense, and so I'm just
looking forward to being able to work with everyone in
this district that's willing to have a conversation to make
sure that we can move the ball forward and continue to.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Protect and preserve the American dream that we're so privileged to.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Have congratulations Gabe. Our text line is full of people
saying I voted for you. I'm so happy one and
we are two. Can't wait to see what happens in
this next congress, and I'm sure we'll talk to you
on a regular basis during that as well. Thanks for
making time for us today.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh, I look forward to having those conversations and thanks
for the chat.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
All right.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
That is Gabe Evans and he is our new congressman
from the eighth Congressional District. Very exciting.

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