Making Things Right

Making Things Right

What is the Christian response and responsibility to LGBTQ+ people? In today's divisive landscape, host Brian Nietzel explores this vital question with key individuals, churches, and organizations moving toward a compassionate, inclusive posture that can bring healing to a community historically wounded by religion. Whether conservative or progressive in your beliefs, Brian elevates the conversation, helping us find our Christian common ground in loving our LGBTQ+ neighbors. Join the movement at makingthingsright.org

Episodes

November 29, 2025 60 mins

This episode explores sides A,B,X, and Y, which represent the diverse theological positions on same-sex relationships. Brian is joined by Justin Lee and Gregory Coles, two thought-leaders representing differing theological positions, yet modeling unity and collaboration in a manner desperately needed today.

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This episode features emotional and difficult subject matter, as we explore the history and impact of ex-gay ideology and conversion therapy. Brian is joined by Alan Chambers (past president of Exodus International) and licensed therapist Candice Czubernat, who bring professional and personal expertise with many in the LGBTQ+ community who have experienced harm from conversion therapy. 

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Brian is joined by Mark Wingfield, executive director and publisher of Baptist News Global. Years ago Mark's post "7 Things I'm Learning About Transgender Persons" went immediately viral with over 1 million views, launching Mark into becoming an influential advocate and pastor to the transgender community.

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Learning first-hand of transgender real-lived experiences can be transformative, and perhaps the only way to elevate the public discourse from "issues" to being about people. Brian is joined by Grace Thomas and Lucas Hall, two Christian pioneers in the Trans community who share their harrowing, beautiful journeys.

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This episode features an informative and fascinating discussion with Matthew Vines, the author of the best-seller God & The Gay Christian. Matthew is a true pioneer who brings a sound biblical case for same-sex relationships. A decade after this game-changing book's release, it's impact along with his organization The Reformation Project remain as relevant as ever.

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November 29, 2025 56 mins

What if the word homosexual was never meant to be in the Bible? This episode features a striking conversation with the director and one of the lead researches of the multi-award winning documentary 1946: The Movie. Brian is joined by film producer Rocky Roggio and author & speaker Kathy Baldock.

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November 29, 2025 53 mins

Welcome to Making Things Right Season 2! This episode features a live recording from the national conference of Q Christian Fellowship, a key organization that serves the full diversity of the LGBTQ+ community and their allies. Brian is joined by Brit Barron, Grace Thomas, Bill White, and Danny Cortez, all impactful leaders in "The Long Game" of LGBTQ+ reform in the Christian Church.

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Season One of the Making Things Right podcast brings Brian's white paper on Christian-LGBTQ matters to life through real conversations. In this series, you’ll hear collaborative conversations where friends and thought-leaders representing varied perspectives gather with a common purpose: to share and listen, to find new empathy, and to serve the LGBTQ+ community. These conversations will provide insights and ideas to help you find ...

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October 20, 2021 54 mins

Making Things Right with the LGBTQ+ Community. The kick-off episode! B.T. Harman joins Brian to introduce and discuss the key concepts of "Making Things Right" and set the stage for this podcast series. 

Guest: B.T. Harman

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October 20, 2021 55 mins

Brian's Story. A deeply personal episode where Brian's 30-year friend Sara interviews him on the chapters of his life and the evolution of his faith, with Sara's observations as she walked alongside. 

Guest: Sara Renner

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October 20, 2021 85 mins

Letting LGBTQ+ Experiences Impact You. The first step in "making things right" is empathy. This episode features statistics and stories of LGBTQ+ experiences, including three brave friends sharing both hurts and healing with church and family.

Guests: Caleb Hudson, Jana Warner, Matt Nightingale

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October 20, 2021 60 mins

Navigating Turning Points in Life and Faith. This episode features two stories of Christian parents whose kids came out as LGBTQ+, and their journeys to reconciling their deep love for their kids with their faith. 

Guests: Greg & Lynn McDonald, Staci Frenes

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October 20, 2021 56 mins

An Invitation To Re-examine. Author and theologian Dr. David Gushee joins Brian in a discussion for those wanting to examine what they believe. Dr. Gushee brings his personal and theological journey to help us dig in on what the Bible and Christian history are calling us to. 

Guest: Dr. David Gushee

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October 20, 2021 54 mins

Different Perspectives With a Common Cause. Thought-leaders representing both Christian & LGBTQ+ communities join Brian to solution together. This episode is about moving out of the conversation into action and practical application, and addresses real hesitations and hurdles to that. 

Guests: Jennifer Knapp, Keith Malon Wilson, Debbie Causey, Ory Cook

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October 20, 2021 60 mins

Different Perspectives With a Common Cause. Thought-leaders representing both Christian & LGBTQ+ communities join Brian to solution together. This episode is about moving out of the conversation into action and practical application, and addresses real hesitations and hurdles to that. 

Guests: Alan Chambers, Sandi Harman Waldrop and Justin Lee

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