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March 17, 2025 • 11 mins

In an Australian first, both Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Opposition Leader Peter Dutton have sat down with the same podcast to make their case to women voters.

With the election date looming and women's votes likely to be decisive, both leaders are making big promises on everything from childcare and housing to economic independence.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mamma MIA's twice daily
news podcast, The Quickie. For the first time in Mamma
MIA's history, both the Prime Minister and opposition leader have
sat down with the same podcast to make their pitch
to women voters. Today, we're unpacking what they're promising and
what it means for you. But first, here's Claire Murphy

(00:41):
with the latest from The Quickie newsroom for Tuesday, March eighteen.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Thanks Taylor. Catherine, the Princess of Wales has told an
Aussy Reserve soldier that she wants to bring her family
back to Australia. Catherine and William brought Prince George here
when he was just eight months old, telling Corporal Adam
Hamilton while visiting the Irish Guards for Saint Patrick's Day,
that George finds it fascinating that he's been to Australia
and New Zealand, saying she would like to go back

(01:06):
there with all three children now they're old enough to
remember it. She says. She also wants to be able
to carve out time to experience the countries they visit
in their capacity as working royals in a more private way. Otherwise,
she said, you end up seeing lots of insides of
amazing buildings, but you don't get to meet that many people.
Catherine put money on the bar of the soldiers she
visited and drank a bit of guinness herself as she

(01:28):
returned to the celebration she missed last year due to
her cancer treatment. A coronial inquest begins today looking into
the death of water polo coach Lily James at the
hands of a colleague she briefly dated. Miss James was
teaching at St. Andrew's Cathedral School in Sydney in October
twenty twenty three when she was found with serious head injuries.
She'd reportedly been in a brief relationship with the man

(01:49):
she worked with. He was wanted by police for questioning
before his body was found in Sydney's Eastern suburbs a
few days later. It's believed he took his own life.
The inquest will look into the circumstances surrounding both debts
and broader issues such as coercive control and unacceptable behavior
and relationships. The coroner will consider the role of technology

(02:10):
in relationships and how to improve understanding around ways of
identifying damaging behavior. It will also attempt to determine whether
authorities could have intervened at any point before both Miss
James and her killer died. Water safety experts are concerned
that almost half of Australian Year six students can't swim
fifty meters. Royal Life Saving Society Australia CEO Justin Scarr

(02:32):
says the lack of skills leaves us at risk of
becoming a nation of waiters, unable to swim their way
out of trouble. According to a survey of more than
three hundred education staff, primary age students struggle to meet
benchmarks and that isn't improving much in high school teaches
estimating that forty eight percent of students in year six
can't reach the national benchmark for a fifty meter swim

(02:53):
and treading water for two minutes. They also estimate that
thirty nine percent of Year ten students are unable to
meet that benchmark. The pandemic has amplified the problem, with
many children missing their formative learn to swim years. Doctor Scarr,
saying the cost of private swimming lessons is also making
a harder Sarah Michelle Gella has revealed that the reboot
of Buffy the Vampire Slayer is progressing faster than she expected.

(03:16):
Hulu revealed last month they're working on a new series
of the show, which ended in two thousand and three,
the now forty seven year old Gella confirming she will
be reprising her role as Buffy Summons, but her character
now won't be the main focus. Gella called on fans
to be patient, saying to do it the way it
needs to be done. Everyone has to be patient with
all of us because this isn't something that will just happen.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Thanks Clare Next. With women said to play a crucial
role in deciding the upcoming election, both Anthony Albanesi and
Peter Dutton have sat down with Mamma MIA's No Filter
podcast to share their vision for Australia's future. With speculation

(04:01):
mounting around the date Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi will call
the upcoming election, here's a quick refresher on how a
federal election actually works. First, the Prime Minister decides when
to call the election, advising the Governor General, who then
dissolves Parliament and issues ritz those official legal orders. They
go to all seats in the House of Reps and

(04:22):
for Senate seats also up for election. Usually that happens
a couple of days after the PM makes the call.
Then there's a couple of rules, including that the election
must be held no later than May seventeen, twenty twenty five,
and once called, there's a minimum campaign period of thirty
three days, plus the election must be held on a Saturday,

(04:43):
and while not compulsory, a democracy sausage should be enjoyed
after casting your vote at the ballot box. Once the
rits are issued, voters have just one week to ensure
they've correctly enrolled or update their details with the Australian
Electoral Commission. Now to the two men vying for the
top job, current Labour Prime Minister Anthony Alberanzi who's held

(05:06):
the position for almost three years, and Opposition Leader p
leader of the Liberal Party. When both sat down with
Muma MIA's No Filter podcast host Kate Langbrook recently, they
had one goal to convince Ozzie Women they were the
right choice to lead the country.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's a critical election. I think that what happens in
Australia for the rest of this decade will either set
us up or the decades ahead, or will just tread
water and watch the world go past us.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
The Prime Minister's pitch is clear. He wants you to
see his government as one that understands women's lived experiences,
with gender equality at the core of policymaking. His government's
front bench has more women than men for the first
time ever. Labour's federal caucus is fifty two percent women.
The Liberal Party is currently sitting around thirty percent our cabinet.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I chair a cabinet that has eleven men and eleven women,
and it means that gender isn't an add on, isn't
like a nice to have a curiosity. It's just what
we do in every cabinet submission.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
The Prime Minister's pitch centers on his government's record of achievement,
the introduction of paid family and domestic violence leave, increase
funding for community legal services, and changes to the Fair
Work Act to address the gender pay gap. Looking ahead,
Albanesi has promised more, including adding superannuation to parental leave,
reducing student debt by a further twenty percent, and investing

(06:39):
a billion dollars in childcare infrastructure. Meanwhile, the opposition leader
is focusing on housing affordability, improving online safety for women
and girls, and economic independence.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
The reason that I'm passionate about making sure that we
allow people to realize that dream of high ownership again
is that I just think with the house, you've got
a unit, but with accommodation, you've got stability. I think
it's good for a relationship.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Both leaders are making big promises at a time when
cost of living pressures are the top concern for many
Aussie women. More than six in ten of Mumameer's audience
say they felt more financially stressed this past year than
ever before, and recent polling shows this election could be
one of the closest in Australia's history. Both leaders net
approval ratings in the negative territory Done at minus three

(07:26):
and Albanizi at minus eight. Significantly, both men have committed
to sitting down with Mumameer again in twelve months to
be held accountable for their promises to Australian women.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
All right, here's a proposition for you. Should you win
the election. I would like to invite you back in
a year's time, so that I can check your KPIs
done on what you have done for women, policies that
have been executed that have changed the lives of women

(08:00):
in Australia.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Absolutely, it's a deal, Albo I done.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
See you in a year's time, see you then possibly
as Prime minister. Possibly is a normal. It's just dropped
by to say hello, I.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Hope we're both doing it.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Should you win the election, do you think you're going.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
To I think we can win the election. It hasn't
happened since nineteen thirty one for a first term government
to lose, so it's a huge task and we've got
to win about twenty seats, which is a big undertaking.
But there's no doubt in my mind that we can
win if we work hard, we're disciplined, and we put
the policies out that can capture people's imaginations.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well, if you do win, I would like to invite
you to come back thank you exactly a year from today. Deal.
I would like to discuss with you in that intervening
period what you have done to that.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
In firstly an absolute commitment and it should be a
conversation that continues on for the year about what we
can do to make lives for women and young girls better,
and particularly, as I said, a real focus with online
and safety online and being to deal with the transmission
of images and how women and girls can feel safe

(09:15):
living a bigger part of their lives online than they
ever have. But there are many other issues, housing etc.
That I spoke about before, Kate, So I think there's
a lot of work for us to do and it'd
be great to work with you and great to be
back here in twelve month's time.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
In fact, Cape point blank asked both Dutton and alban
Easy what their pitch to women was.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I want to be a Prime minister who can govern
for our country and for all Australians, but I strongly
believe in making sure that people have dignity in their lives,
women in particular, and that means first and foremost running
an economy where if you're sitting at home pulling your
hair out in a garage or the back bedroom with
your online business. I want to be a prime minister

(09:55):
that creates an environment where you can make sales and
that financial independence and success gives you options and opportunities.
And I want to be a prime Minister that can
provide an environment where you can afford to put a
roof over you and recover from a marriage breakdown or
a violent relationship. And I want an opportunity where people can,

(10:16):
at different points in their life, feel comfortable about making
choices that are right for them and facilitating those choices.
And that I think is important. When I go up
to Alice Springs and speak to women in town camps
or indigenous elders up there, their view is no different
to women in the cities or frankly, a lot of
parents are male or female. When you speak to them,

(10:37):
What can I do for you? What are the priorities.
I want a roof over my head. I want a
safe environment. I want to be able to educate my kids.
I want to be able to pay the bills. I
want a good health system. And I want an environment
where my kids, when they graduate from school or from
a trade or from a university, can find a job.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
We are a government that are defined by in part
of our core objectives, not something that's an add on,
not something that's an after thought. How do we promote
economic equality for women? And that is something that's at
the core of what we do, whether it's in economic policy,

(11:17):
whether it be in social policy. We have a record
of achievement in our first three years, but we recognize
there is more to do and my government will always
be respectful and engaging. And I believe one of the
key differences between my government and our opponents is whether

(11:43):
we take gender equity seriously.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with
us today. You can hear the full interviews with both
Anthony Albanezi and Peter Dutton on Mamma Meres No Filter podcast.
It'll be linked in the show notes. The quickie is
produced by me Tail Strano and Claire Murphy, with audio
production by Lou Hill.
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