March 31, 2025 • 18 mins
With just four weeks until the federal election, we're unpacking the latest polling that shows a significant generational shift in voting power.
Plus 7News correspondent Tim Lester joins us from the campaign trail.
And we examine the latest developments in the University of Idaho murder case that's gripped America and changed campus safety forever.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So much you're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma
Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that
this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily
news podcast, The Quickie. With just over a month till
we head to the polls, both Anthony Albaninsi and Peter
Duttner hitting the campaign trail hard, but the latest numbers
suggest one of them might be running out of time. Plus,
it's the college murder case that's grouped America and left
a community shattered. Let's unpack the latest developments in the
(00:43):
Idaho sharehouse killings before we get there. Here is Clare
Murphy with the latest from the QUICKI newsroom for Tuesday,
April one.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Thanks Taylor. Survivors are still being pulled from the rubble
left behind by Friday seven point seven magnitude earthquake in Myanmar.
The number of lives lost to the natural disaster has
now passed two thousand, but rescuers continue to remain hopeful.
After four people were pulled free from the crumbled remains
of building overnight, including a pregnant woman and a young girl.
(01:13):
One man who was rescued from what remained of his
restaurant hired a bulldozer to try and locate one of
his workers and to make the building safe for his neighbors.
The quake has piled more misery onto the people of Myanmar,
who've been in the midst of a civil war since
a military junta overthrew the democratically elected government in twenty
twenty one. The war is complicating rescue efforts, especially for
(01:35):
those trying to access some areas across the front lines.
The woman who accused the late Jeffrey Epstein and Prince
Andrew of sexual abuse is in hospital, saying she has
just four days to live. Virginia Giffrey shared a photo
of herself covered in bruises, explaining she was involved in
a car accident where she was hit by a school bus.
(01:55):
She says she's now in renal failure and has been
given just four days to live. She wrote that she's
ready to go and just hopes to see her children
one last time. She then thanked her supporters for being
wonderful people. Giffrey claims she was trafficked by Epstein and
his partner Glene Maxwell when she was just a teenager,
Maxwell is serving a twenty year sentence after being convicted
(02:16):
of child trafficking. Prince Andrew settled out of court but
has denied ever abusing her. Notorious gangland figure Tony Mockbell
has applied to be released from prison ahead of his
long awaited appeal over the lawyer X scandal. The fifty
nine year old, who's currently serving a twenty six year
sentence for drug trafficking, will face court today in Melbourne
to apply for appeal bail. He was jailed in twenty
(02:39):
twelve after pleading guilty to two counts of trafficking of
a drug of dependence MDMA and meth amphetamine in a
deal struck with prosecutors. However, he is now appealing all
convictions because he was represented by lawyer ex Nicola Gobbo,
who he did not know was working as a Victorian
police informant. A judge found police had perverted the course
(02:59):
of justice in a joint criminal enterprise with miss Gobbo,
though she represented finding out when a gag order was
lifted in twenty eighteen. From today, health warnings won't just
be on cigarette packets, but on the cigarettes themselves. Australia
will become the second country in the world to introduce
warnings on individual cigarettes. We will also see a phasing
out of menthol cigarettes and updated warnings on the packets.
(03:22):
Cancer Council Victorious Sarah Dirkins saying the updated imagery was
needed as Ossie's have become accustomed to seeing the current warnings.
The new warnings will include messaging that smoking can contribute
to you developing diabetes, erectile dysfunction, cervical cancer, and can
impact children's lung capacity when inhaling secondhand smoke. Some of
the messages on the actual cigarettes will say smoking causes
(03:45):
sixteen cancers, damages your lungs and damages DNA. King Charles
has returned to public duty after a brief hospital stay.
The seventy six year old has been undergoing cancer treatment
since he was diagnosed with an unspecified cancer following a
corrective procedure for an enlarged prostate in February last year.
Sources say he has suffered a minor bump in the
(04:05):
road and was taken to hospital for a short period
of observation. After a rest full weekend at his home
in West England, he returned to Windsor Castle and is
now preparing for a normal working week. Kanye West has
admitted in a new interview that he didn't want to
have children with Kim Kardashian, where said that that was
his fault. He didn't want to have children with Kardashian
after the first two months of being with her, but
(04:28):
that it wasn't God's plan. He went on to rant
about the custody arrangement, saying he doesn't have any of
the names or likeness, ownership or even fifty to fifty
with his kids, asking how that can be considered joint custody.
He also said that his kids are celebrities, saying this
white woman and white family have control of these highly
influential Black kids that are half the children of ya.
(04:50):
West has previously taken to social media to complain about
access to his children, calling the Kardashians a mob who
took all his rights away, saying he doesn't want to
just see his kids, he wants to raise them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Thanks Claire. Next, the Race to the ballad Box is on.
If you haven't been paying attention to the federal election
campaign yet, now might be the time to start tuning in.
We're just four weeks out from the election day on
May three, and the Australian Electoral Commission is reminding voters
(05:24):
they have until eight pm on April seven, that's Monday
night next week to check or update their enrollment. Three
major polls show Labor maintaining its lead over the coalition,
but it's the generational divide that's getting all the attention.
Young voters, particularly those under forty, are emerging as a
crucial demographic in the election. For the first time ever.
(05:47):
It's Gen Z and millennials who will outnumber baby boomers,
with both leaders scrambling to win them over. The PM's
been focusing on cost of living pressures, with a particular
emphasis on housing affordability and soupermarket prices. Meanwhile, Peter Dutton's
coalition is pushing hard on energy security and tax reform.
Seven News Politics and National Security correspondent Tim Lester has
(06:10):
been on the campaign trail with Peter Dunton this week, Tim,
both leaders are out and about what's the mood been
like on the ground.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, I think the mood's been pretty upbeat, notwithstanding new
Pole results, which are important because news polls probably the
most respected of the polsters and it essentially confirms what
a few others have suggested over the last couple of
weeks that there has been a loss of momentum by
the coalition. Anthony Albanezi has strengthened in terms of the
(06:42):
Prime Minister that most Australian voters think it would do
a better job, and the coalition is now behind forty
nine point fifty one after preferences. There's been a loss
of tempo from the coalition. They need to pick up
in the next thirty three days otherwise they'll lose. So
(07:02):
watch out as to whether we see it turnaround. The
other thing about the pile, which we already knew from
a long line pole, but it's important. Thirty percent of
Australias roughly one third now are not going to give
either major party they're vote if these numbers hold, and
if that's the situation, almost certainly we're going to have
(07:24):
negotiations after May third on who forms government. So that's important.
In the hung parliament, there haven't been many, i think
two election results that end in a home parliament, so
that's interesting too.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Something else that's been really interesting in this election cycle
is the generational divide. It'll be the first time that
millennials and gen z overtake baby boomers as the largest
demos of voters. What sort of impact do you see
or think that that will have on the outcome.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, I think it's exactly the impact we've been talking about.
The voters that are not of a mood to stick
by a party through thick and thin, who aren't linked
to labor, the liberals or nationals in a kind of
lifelong way, are young voters. I remember my dad and
I said to him, my bob books, do your reasonable job. Dad,
(08:16):
isn't he years ago? And he said, oh, yes, boy,
but I won't vote for him. I've always voted liberally.
That was his view. Increasingly, young voters, even today, decades on,
are tending to be less and less affiliated with any
political party. In a way, it's making democracy work harder.
They're saying, now, come on, you satisfy me with your policies.
(08:39):
I need to like view. I need to be comfortable
with you as a representative and a leader before i'll
give you my vote. And so we're getting this one
third of the electorate who won't get on board with
either major party, and it's a big change for our
two party system.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So if we're seeing less died in the will labor
or liberal voters sort of breaking away from those traditional
party voting lines, Things like policy become increasingly crucial to
making a decision at the ballot box. One of those
big topics this cycle will be cost of living. It's
dominating the conversation at the moment. How are both leaders
(09:16):
approaching that issue?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Both for going at it hard. The cost of living
is kind of an umbrella for a lot of things.
It's an umbrella for Anthony ALBINIZI just announcing his policy
to find big supermarkets millions of dollars for price gouging.
It's also a coverall for Peter Dutton this morning and
yesterday morning going to industrial sites to talk about the
(09:40):
cost of energy into major manufacturers and others in Australia.
The argument that Peter Dutton raises there is well, rising
costs with energy are crueling their operation. Yes, it's cost
of living. Although cost of living is a very broad
topic and fits into what both major parties it do.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I find it interesting because the A Trible c Inquiry
said that they wouldn't go as far as to classify
the latest investigation to the Big two as price gouging,
So why is Albot taking such a hard line on it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, I think he's taking a hard line on it
because he's wanting to appeal to the instincts of the
voter and politicians like a bit about bravado, particularly around
election time, and there's a bit of bravado in him
making the comments his mad he's figuring that votas won't
be looking too closely at the detail the coalition. Peter
(10:38):
Dutt has made the point that this is in his
Calculations inquiry number six into this issue. So it's been
well beaten before and I don't know what Anthony albats
suggesting were necessarily get anything that the other inquiries haven't,
But around election time the leaders are deeply conscious of
(10:59):
getting to the raw nerve of an issue.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Peter Dutton has been peddling the coalition's energy policy and
wanting to make that a big sticking point in his campaign,
but his gas policy has been facing questions how significant
could this be to the undoing of the coalition's whole
mandate on energy prices.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well, you're dead right, Tayler. It's a big unanswered area
for the Coalition. They've got the gas policy out there
which they are reasonably keen to talk about, but still
has questions that haven't bet answered. He was pushed today
on give us a commitment as to how prices will
go down because of this, and he wouldn't go anywhere
(11:40):
near it. So there are gaps and there's modeling that's
still not out that he's under pressure or release. Perhaps
the real gorilla in all of this is nuclear has
been put forward by them as the way to provide
our baseload power, the power that's always there when demand
goes under that. But there's a lot of detail left
(12:02):
unanswered on that, and the labor is very team I
think to press the coalition and on nuclear energy concerns
that Australians have in the since that they don't yet
have all of the answers. So energy is a critical area.
Nuclear power is a profound policy to put forward to
(12:25):
run a profound change for this country. So it really
matters the election deb base we ought to be talking about.
It kind of odd that the party that's putting it
as their policy is actually trying to keep a close
so that if they're not wanting to be discussing nuclear
on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Tim four weeks is a very long time in politics.
What are some of the key moments we should be
watching out for.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean very often the key moments are unusual. They're
the things you can't see. They capture the imagination. Very interesting,
I think, to see when they hold the fates and
how they go. We're different to America, but remember how
profound the Biden Trump was mid last year. It destroyed
(13:13):
one candidate, forced job to quit. They as important in
the Australian context, maybe not, but there's still a potential
place where we'll see one of those moments that might
just capture the public imagination and really ships those one
way or the other. So watch those at watching situation
(13:35):
where the leaders are in an environment where they don't
have contrial over the public around them, and the kind
of questions of situations that my company at mark.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's the story that sent shock waves through America's college system.
The brutal murders of four University of Idaho students in
their off campus house in twenty twenty two left a
community reeling and sparked one of the largest investigations in
the state's history. This week, there's been a significant development
in the case against Frank Coburger, the former criminology student
(14:12):
charged with the murders. Mumama's newswriter Eilish Delaney has been
following the case. Elish, take us back to the beginning.
What happened in Moscow, Idaho.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, so it's first shocking one, this one, Taylor. There
was four university students from the University of Idaho and
they were all killed in the off campus home of
November thirteen, back in twenty twenty two. And it started
as a night out for the four of them kind
of at different events at some bars and parties before
they all got home just before two am, and sometime
(14:41):
between then and midday was when the nine one one
call was placed. All four of the students were murdered
in their beds, and there were two other housemates home
at the time, but somehow they kind of escaped unharmed
and weren't involved at all. But it's a real mystery
this one, because there were no science forth entry and
their murder weapon still hasn't been found.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
This particular case has captured America's attention. Is it the
fact that it was twenty twenty two and we're only
now sort of really getting more updates what's my particularly shocking, Well.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I think personally, it's the fact that they were so young,
like two of them were only twenty and the other
two or twenty one. And the autopsy showed that the
students were likely stabbed to death while they slept. And
it was the city's first murder in seven years, which
is clearly going to rattle the community. And police believe
that it was a targeted attack, but there was no
(15:33):
clear motive and we are kind of only getting some
new details about what may have happened.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Now, talk us through the investigation. How did they eventually
identify Brian Coberger as a suspect.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, so the mystery box thousands of hip hops to
the FBI. Obviously, like you said, it got a lot
of national and international attention, but it actually took about
like seven weeks before they made an arrest. That the
investigators say that there was DNA discovered on a knife
sheet that was at the crime scene that they used
to link him to the scene, and they'd also been
(16:06):
tracking his car and his cell phone use in the
area before they were able to charge him with four
counts of murder.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So we know that this has been now an ongoing
investigation for a while. What's the latest development in the case.
Why are we seeing in the headlines this week?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So there's been a few updates in recent weeks. The
main thing at the moment is the prosecution has released
this stealthy that Brian took of him smiling kind of
with a thumbs up in a bathroom, which was actually
taken six hours after the students were killed. They want
it allowed as evidence in the trial because one of
the housemates, who is the only witness in the case,
(16:42):
she said that she woke up around four am and
saw a figure walking past in black clothing and a
ski mask, and the one thing that she kind of
noticed about him was that he had bushy eyebrows. So
they're hoping that that they can use that and show
the jury that that was Coberger. Another thing of note
is the court filings that have come out recently also
showed that he bought a knife that matched the type
(17:03):
of knife sheef that was found in the home in
the months beforehand, and he also bought a balaclava about
eleven months before the murders.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Another layer that's added to this story is the fact
that Coburger was a criminology student as the murders were
taking place. What else do we really know about him?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Prosecutors actually want a college essay of his to be
allowed as evidence in the trial. There's something that he
wrote for an assignment where he kind of had to
list the steps for a crime scene investigator and what
they would do when they kind of enter a scene.
And the prosecution says that they are aspects of the
case that are quite similar to the Idaho murders, like
the murder weapon and surveillance video and things. So that's
(17:41):
kind of a link to his criminology degree. And then
kind of on him personally, his lawyers have jumped to
his defensing that he actually has autism and that his
mannerisms in court could prejudice the jury. So they're a
bit worried from that asset.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So where are we at now then, ailst Is it
just a matter of waiting as the proceedings continue.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, So the jury selection is set to begin in July,
and they expect the trial, which I think they're hoping
to start in August. It's expected to last around three months.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with
us today. The Quikie is produced by me Taylorstrano and
Claire Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.
So much you're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma
Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that
this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily
news podcast, The Quickie. With just over a month till
we head to the polls, both Anthony Albaninsi and Peter
Duttner hitting the campaign trail hard, but the latest numbers
suggest one of them might be running out of time. Plus,
it's the college murder case that's grouped America and left
a community shattered. Let's unpack the latest developments in the
(00:43):
Idaho sharehouse killings before we get there. Here is Clare
Murphy with the latest from the QUICKI newsroom for Tuesday,
April one.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Thanks Taylor. Survivors are still being pulled from the rubble
left behind by Friday seven point seven magnitude earthquake in Myanmar.
The number of lives lost to the natural disaster has
now passed two thousand, but rescuers continue to remain hopeful.
After four people were pulled free from the crumbled remains
of building overnight, including a pregnant woman and a young girl.
(01:13):
One man who was rescued from what remained of his
restaurant hired a bulldozer to try and locate one of
his workers and to make the building safe for his neighbors.
The quake has piled more misery onto the people of Myanmar,
who've been in the midst of a civil war since
a military junta overthrew the democratically elected government in twenty
twenty one. The war is complicating rescue efforts, especially for
(01:35):
those trying to access some areas across the front lines.
The woman who accused the late Jeffrey Epstein and Prince
Andrew of sexual abuse is in hospital, saying she has
just four days to live. Virginia Giffrey shared a photo
of herself covered in bruises, explaining she was involved in
a car accident where she was hit by a school bus.
(01:55):
She says she's now in renal failure and has been
given just four days to live. She wrote that she's
ready to go and just hopes to see her children
one last time. She then thanked her supporters for being
wonderful people. Giffrey claims she was trafficked by Epstein and
his partner Glene Maxwell when she was just a teenager,
Maxwell is serving a twenty year sentence after being convicted
(02:16):
of child trafficking. Prince Andrew settled out of court but
has denied ever abusing her. Notorious gangland figure Tony Mockbell
has applied to be released from prison ahead of his
long awaited appeal over the lawyer X scandal. The fifty
nine year old, who's currently serving a twenty six year
sentence for drug trafficking, will face court today in Melbourne
to apply for appeal bail. He was jailed in twenty
(02:39):
twelve after pleading guilty to two counts of trafficking of
a drug of dependence MDMA and meth amphetamine in a
deal struck with prosecutors. However, he is now appealing all
convictions because he was represented by lawyer ex Nicola Gobbo,
who he did not know was working as a Victorian
police informant. A judge found police had perverted the course
(02:59):
of justice in a joint criminal enterprise with miss Gobbo,
though she represented finding out when a gag order was
lifted in twenty eighteen. From today, health warnings won't just
be on cigarette packets, but on the cigarettes themselves. Australia
will become the second country in the world to introduce
warnings on individual cigarettes. We will also see a phasing
out of menthol cigarettes and updated warnings on the packets.
(03:22):
Cancer Council Victorious Sarah Dirkins saying the updated imagery was
needed as Ossie's have become accustomed to seeing the current warnings.
The new warnings will include messaging that smoking can contribute
to you developing diabetes, erectile dysfunction, cervical cancer, and can
impact children's lung capacity when inhaling secondhand smoke. Some of
the messages on the actual cigarettes will say smoking causes
(03:45):
sixteen cancers, damages your lungs and damages DNA. King Charles
has returned to public duty after a brief hospital stay.
The seventy six year old has been undergoing cancer treatment
since he was diagnosed with an unspecified cancer following a
corrective procedure for an enlarged prostate in February last year.
Sources say he has suffered a minor bump in the
(04:05):
road and was taken to hospital for a short period
of observation. After a rest full weekend at his home
in West England, he returned to Windsor Castle and is
now preparing for a normal working week. Kanye West has
admitted in a new interview that he didn't want to
have children with Kim Kardashian, where said that that was
his fault. He didn't want to have children with Kardashian
after the first two months of being with her, but
(04:28):
that it wasn't God's plan. He went on to rant
about the custody arrangement, saying he doesn't have any of
the names or likeness, ownership or even fifty to fifty
with his kids, asking how that can be considered joint custody.
He also said that his kids are celebrities, saying this
white woman and white family have control of these highly
influential Black kids that are half the children of ya.
(04:50):
West has previously taken to social media to complain about
access to his children, calling the Kardashians a mob who
took all his rights away, saying he doesn't want to
just see his kids, he wants to raise them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Thanks Claire. Next, the Race to the ballad Box is on.
If you haven't been paying attention to the federal election
campaign yet, now might be the time to start tuning in.
We're just four weeks out from the election day on
May three, and the Australian Electoral Commission is reminding voters
(05:24):
they have until eight pm on April seven, that's Monday
night next week to check or update their enrollment. Three
major polls show Labor maintaining its lead over the coalition,
but it's the generational divide that's getting all the attention.
Young voters, particularly those under forty, are emerging as a
crucial demographic in the election. For the first time ever.
(05:47):
It's Gen Z and millennials who will outnumber baby boomers,
with both leaders scrambling to win them over. The PM's
been focusing on cost of living pressures, with a particular
emphasis on housing affordability and soupermarket prices. Meanwhile, Peter Dutton's
coalition is pushing hard on energy security and tax reform.
Seven News Politics and National Security correspondent Tim Lester has
(06:10):
been on the campaign trail with Peter Dunton this week, Tim,
both leaders are out and about what's the mood been
like on the ground.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, I think the mood's been pretty upbeat, notwithstanding new
Pole results, which are important because news polls probably the
most respected of the polsters and it essentially confirms what
a few others have suggested over the last couple of
weeks that there has been a loss of momentum by
the coalition. Anthony Albanezi has strengthened in terms of the
(06:42):
Prime Minister that most Australian voters think it would do
a better job, and the coalition is now behind forty
nine point fifty one after preferences. There's been a loss
of tempo from the coalition. They need to pick up
in the next thirty three days otherwise they'll lose. So
(07:02):
watch out as to whether we see it turnaround. The
other thing about the pile, which we already knew from
a long line pole, but it's important. Thirty percent of
Australias roughly one third now are not going to give
either major party they're vote if these numbers hold, and
if that's the situation, almost certainly we're going to have
(07:24):
negotiations after May third on who forms government. So that's important.
In the hung parliament, there haven't been many, i think
two election results that end in a home parliament, so
that's interesting too.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Something else that's been really interesting in this election cycle
is the generational divide. It'll be the first time that
millennials and gen z overtake baby boomers as the largest
demos of voters. What sort of impact do you see
or think that that will have on the outcome.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, I think it's exactly the impact we've been talking about.
The voters that are not of a mood to stick
by a party through thick and thin, who aren't linked
to labor, the liberals or nationals in a kind of
lifelong way, are young voters. I remember my dad and
I said to him, my bob books, do your reasonable job. Dad,
(08:16):
isn't he years ago? And he said, oh, yes, boy,
but I won't vote for him. I've always voted liberally.
That was his view. Increasingly, young voters, even today, decades on,
are tending to be less and less affiliated with any
political party. In a way, it's making democracy work harder.
They're saying, now, come on, you satisfy me with your policies.
(08:39):
I need to like view. I need to be comfortable
with you as a representative and a leader before i'll
give you my vote. And so we're getting this one
third of the electorate who won't get on board with
either major party, and it's a big change for our
two party system.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So if we're seeing less died in the will labor
or liberal voters sort of breaking away from those traditional
party voting lines, Things like policy become increasingly crucial to
making a decision at the ballot box. One of those
big topics this cycle will be cost of living. It's
dominating the conversation at the moment. How are both leaders
(09:16):
approaching that issue?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Both for going at it hard. The cost of living
is kind of an umbrella for a lot of things.
It's an umbrella for Anthony ALBINIZI just announcing his policy
to find big supermarkets millions of dollars for price gouging.
It's also a coverall for Peter Dutton this morning and
yesterday morning going to industrial sites to talk about the
(09:40):
cost of energy into major manufacturers and others in Australia.
The argument that Peter Dutton raises there is well, rising
costs with energy are crueling their operation. Yes, it's cost
of living. Although cost of living is a very broad
topic and fits into what both major parties it do.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I find it interesting because the A Trible c Inquiry
said that they wouldn't go as far as to classify
the latest investigation to the Big two as price gouging,
So why is Albot taking such a hard line on it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, I think he's taking a hard line on it
because he's wanting to appeal to the instincts of the
voter and politicians like a bit about bravado, particularly around
election time, and there's a bit of bravado in him
making the comments his mad he's figuring that votas won't
be looking too closely at the detail the coalition. Peter
(10:38):
Dutt has made the point that this is in his
Calculations inquiry number six into this issue. So it's been
well beaten before and I don't know what Anthony albats
suggesting were necessarily get anything that the other inquiries haven't,
But around election time the leaders are deeply conscious of
(10:59):
getting to the raw nerve of an issue.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Peter Dutton has been peddling the coalition's energy policy and
wanting to make that a big sticking point in his campaign,
but his gas policy has been facing questions how significant
could this be to the undoing of the coalition's whole
mandate on energy prices.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well, you're dead right, Tayler. It's a big unanswered area
for the Coalition. They've got the gas policy out there
which they are reasonably keen to talk about, but still
has questions that haven't bet answered. He was pushed today
on give us a commitment as to how prices will
go down because of this, and he wouldn't go anywhere
(11:40):
near it. So there are gaps and there's modeling that's
still not out that he's under pressure or release. Perhaps
the real gorilla in all of this is nuclear has
been put forward by them as the way to provide
our baseload power, the power that's always there when demand
goes under that. But there's a lot of detail left
(12:02):
unanswered on that, and the labor is very team I
think to press the coalition and on nuclear energy concerns
that Australians have in the since that they don't yet
have all of the answers. So energy is a critical area.
Nuclear power is a profound policy to put forward to
(12:25):
run a profound change for this country. So it really
matters the election deb base we ought to be talking about.
It kind of odd that the party that's putting it
as their policy is actually trying to keep a close
so that if they're not wanting to be discussing nuclear
on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Tim four weeks is a very long time in politics.
What are some of the key moments we should be
watching out for.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean very often the key moments are unusual. They're
the things you can't see. They capture the imagination. Very interesting,
I think, to see when they hold the fates and
how they go. We're different to America, but remember how
profound the Biden Trump was mid last year. It destroyed
(13:13):
one candidate, forced job to quit. They as important in
the Australian context, maybe not, but there's still a potential
place where we'll see one of those moments that might
just capture the public imagination and really ships those one
way or the other. So watch those at watching situation
(13:35):
where the leaders are in an environment where they don't
have contrial over the public around them, and the kind
of questions of situations that my company at mark.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's the story that sent shock waves through America's college system.
The brutal murders of four University of Idaho students in
their off campus house in twenty twenty two left a
community reeling and sparked one of the largest investigations in
the state's history. This week, there's been a significant development
in the case against Frank Coburger, the former criminology student
(14:12):
charged with the murders. Mumama's newswriter Eilish Delaney has been
following the case. Elish, take us back to the beginning.
What happened in Moscow, Idaho.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, so it's first shocking one, this one, Taylor. There
was four university students from the University of Idaho and
they were all killed in the off campus home of
November thirteen, back in twenty twenty two. And it started
as a night out for the four of them kind
of at different events at some bars and parties before
they all got home just before two am, and sometime
(14:41):
between then and midday was when the nine one one
call was placed. All four of the students were murdered
in their beds, and there were two other housemates home
at the time, but somehow they kind of escaped unharmed
and weren't involved at all. But it's a real mystery
this one, because there were no science forth entry and
their murder weapon still hasn't been found.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
This particular case has captured America's attention. Is it the
fact that it was twenty twenty two and we're only
now sort of really getting more updates what's my particularly shocking, Well.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I think personally, it's the fact that they were so young,
like two of them were only twenty and the other
two or twenty one. And the autopsy showed that the
students were likely stabbed to death while they slept. And
it was the city's first murder in seven years, which
is clearly going to rattle the community. And police believe
that it was a targeted attack, but there was no
(15:33):
clear motive and we are kind of only getting some
new details about what may have happened.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Now, talk us through the investigation. How did they eventually
identify Brian Coberger as a suspect.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, so the mystery box thousands of hip hops to
the FBI. Obviously, like you said, it got a lot
of national and international attention, but it actually took about
like seven weeks before they made an arrest. That the
investigators say that there was DNA discovered on a knife
sheet that was at the crime scene that they used
to link him to the scene, and they'd also been
(16:06):
tracking his car and his cell phone use in the
area before they were able to charge him with four
counts of murder.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So we know that this has been now an ongoing
investigation for a while. What's the latest development in the case.
Why are we seeing in the headlines this week?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So there's been a few updates in recent weeks. The
main thing at the moment is the prosecution has released
this stealthy that Brian took of him smiling kind of
with a thumbs up in a bathroom, which was actually
taken six hours after the students were killed. They want
it allowed as evidence in the trial because one of
the housemates, who is the only witness in the case,
(16:42):
she said that she woke up around four am and
saw a figure walking past in black clothing and a
ski mask, and the one thing that she kind of
noticed about him was that he had bushy eyebrows. So
they're hoping that that they can use that and show
the jury that that was Coberger. Another thing of note
is the court filings that have come out recently also
showed that he bought a knife that matched the type
(17:03):
of knife sheef that was found in the home in
the months beforehand, and he also bought a balaclava about
eleven months before the murders.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Another layer that's added to this story is the fact
that Coburger was a criminology student as the murders were
taking place. What else do we really know about him?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Prosecutors actually want a college essay of his to be
allowed as evidence in the trial. There's something that he
wrote for an assignment where he kind of had to
list the steps for a crime scene investigator and what
they would do when they kind of enter a scene.
And the prosecution says that they are aspects of the
case that are quite similar to the Idaho murders, like
the murder weapon and surveillance video and things. So that's
(17:41):
kind of a link to his criminology degree. And then
kind of on him personally, his lawyers have jumped to
his defensing that he actually has autism and that his
mannerisms in court could prejudice the jury. So they're a
bit worried from that asset.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So where are we at now then, ailst Is it
just a matter of waiting as the proceedings continue.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, So the jury selection is set to begin in July,
and they expect the trial, which I think they're hoping
to start in August. It's expected to last around three months.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with
us today. The Quikie is produced by me Taylorstrano and
Claire Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.
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