Fabric Podcast

What if you didn’t have to believe the “right” things to find your place? What if showing up as your full, complicated, in-progress self was more than okay, but actually encouraged? This episode explores how belonging— real, no-performance-necessary belonging— isn’t the reward for right belief, but the soil where relationships grow, and faith/ trust can take root. 

Who makes “the church” what it is? Spoiler: it’s not just the staff, or the people with the mic. It’s all of us. This week, we’re reflecting on what we heard at the “What’s Up with Fabric?” conversation back in April, and naming the power of shared ownership in shaping church that doesn’t just exist for us, but because of us. What if church isn’t something you go to… but something we all create?

There’s a phrase the kids are using these days– to be “ten toes down” is to live and act with integrity, standing firm on what one believes. For over 18 years, Fabric has been experimenting with what it means to be church closer to the margins (read: in the ecotone!). Who’s in the sandbox with us, and what walls might we benefit from analyzing a bit further?

What might we find when we dig in the sandbox? In this episode, Ian McConnell welcomes artist, educator, and author Dave Scherer (AKA Agape*) back among us to share some reflection and frameworks for really getting in the sandbox and planting our toes in it. How do we acknowledge fear without letting it get in the driver’s seat?

When you hear the word “interfaith,” what stirs in you? We’re curious to learn more from Peter Digitale Anderson, Executive Director of Peace Catalyst about the gifts of “playing in the sandbox” with those of different perspectives and cultures.

Have you ever been repulsed by that sludgy, weedy zone between land and water? We’re going to dive into the ecological concept of “ecotones” to walk a bit closer to the edges of what may feel comfortable… it turns out, there’s some pretty rich soil in those borderlands.

The Mandalorian seems like a great way to explore how the walls created by traditionalism separate us from others, and even from ourselves. It turns out, “This” may not be the only way… 

There’s so much talk of division these days, and so much justified fear present in our minds and bodies. It seems like when fear is present, walls are built. It’s as true in churchy spaces as it is in politics, cultures, neighborhoods, and families. What would it be like to recognize that we’re all still playing in the proverbial “sandbox?”

What does it mean for a person, an idea, or a movement to have life beyond a death? It’s inspiring to witness when scraps and threads are picked up and lived out in a way that inspires not just new life, but widespread transformation. What part of the Jesus movement feels worthy of picking up and risking relative comfort to make real in our communities? This may be a good moment for us to really ask ourselves this question…

It’s one thing to talk about the virtue of vulnerability and another entirely to live it out. In this episode, Ian McConnell helps us wrestle a bit with the same thing Jesus’ disciples did: that gentle, tangible love acted out through us is as subversive and impactful as anything. It turns out, what Jesus was teaching isn’t somebody else’s job.

What kind of hero do we really want— and what kind of reality are we hoping for? On Palm Sunday, Jesus enters Jerusalem not with dominance but through a subversive act that disrupts both empire and expectation. How does the thirst for power distort our freedom— and what does it mean that Jesus refuses to play the game? Ian McConnell gets right into it!

A 30+ year music industry veteran, Derek Webb has sold millions of albums while ruffling political & spiritual feathers alike as both a solo artist and a founding member of Texas-based folk/rock band Caedmon’s Call.  He joined us to conclude our last episode of DEEPER. 

There’s just something about Ellis Delaney. At once funny and wise, thoughtful and uninhibited, with a captivating voice that is matched by tender, sometimes funny, uplifting lyrics. If you looked up the definition of open-hearted in the dictionary, you just might find a photo of Ellis there. Their performances are transformational; leaving audiences feeling better, with softened edges & opened hearts.

Mayyadda is an artist on a mission, using her music as a powerful medium to transport listeners to new perspectives and guide them on a journey of personal and collective healing. She joined us live to weaves her own captivating tapestry of sounds that she fondly dubs, “BlackGirlMagic.”

It was a deep joy for many of us to welcome Peter Mayer to our live gathering in Minnesota. This episode includes an interview of Peter to get to know him a little and quickly go a little deeper. It also includes his song, "Holy Now."

What if you could separate yourself from the uncomfortable parts of life—the suffering of others, the weight of injustice—simply by choosing not to see them? Severance gives us a haunting glimpse into how privilege works, allowing some to live in comfort while others bear the cost. What does it mean to use our power not for avoidance, but for justice in our community?

How could we possibly host a conversation series on meaningful TV without talking about Ted Lasso?! We are so excited to welcome Andy Jolivette back to Fabric to talk about the only man who can turn a losing streak into a life lesson, a biscuit into a love language, and a mustache into a personality—Coach Ted Lasso!

Honesty isn’t about having the right answers so we can behave well, feel good, and get along all the time. The quirky characters in this episode from Young Sheldon give us an endearing and revealing glimpse of what happens when we try to manage the stuff we never asked for or wanted by working harder and being better; and of what emerges when we participate honestly instead.