The Unfinished Circle

The Unfinished Circle

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. Every month we will be exploring different themes that support us with parts of life such as grief, faith, anger, leadership, and the unfinished work of being human. Learn more at projectsanctus.com

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June 26, 2026 32 mins

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. 

This month we are focusing on Rethinking Abundance - specifically, what generosity and sufficiency mean during escalating economic disparity. In this episode When Productivity Becomes A Religion ...

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Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. 

This month we are focusing on RETHINKING ABUNDANCE - specifically, what generosity and sufficiency mean during escalating economic disparity. In this episode The Body Knows Before the Mind we address the idea that m...

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Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. 

This month we are focusing on RETHINKING ABUNDANCE - specifically, what generosity and sufficiency mean during escalating economic disparity. In this episode we explore the idea that maybe abundance was never missin...

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Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. 

This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode we ask: How do we remain engaged with the world without letting outrage consume ...

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May 1, 2026 2 mins

*SAVE THE DATE* Join our Zoom gathering on Monday, Mar 18, 2026 from 7:30-9:00pm ET as we share and process our experiences of raging while tired. More info coming soon.

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Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. 

This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode we ask: Why does caring about the world sometimes become a form of suffering or ...

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Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. 

This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode we address what happens when anger stops being a response and becomes the air we...

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Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions. 

This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode, Running On Anger, we are addressing: What happens when the anger that once...

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May 1, 2026 23 mins

Kelly & Ogun return with a new podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. Welcome to The Unfinished Circle

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November 6, 2025 61 mins

In our rejection of fascism and authoritarianism, are we taking the time to explore how those energies exist within us as well? Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun examine how that which we oppose also lives within us, and our spiritual work is to inquire and transform.

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October 31, 2025 52 mins

Kelly and Ogun give an overview of their upcoming book club selection SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE and why it's necessary for non-religious folk to have some Bible education to neutralize those who weaponize scripture for harm. They also give a brief recap of their No Kings protest experiences.

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Sign up today for our final book club selection of the year SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE: A SANE PERSON'S GUIDE TO TAKING BACK THE ...

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October 14, 2025 62 mins

The church has many faces: sanctuary, prophet, enabler, revolutionary. Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun discuss the ways church is, and should be, showing up for today. Rev Kelly also reflects on moderating a discussion with John Pavlovitz, a former youth pastor and author, known for his social and political writings from a liberal Christian perspective. 

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October 7, 2025 56 mins

By calling God "Love" are we misunderstanding a spiritual principle and using it as an excuse to spiritually bypass? Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun discuss how the spiritual principle of LOVE is too often conflated with the comfort of emotional love, and why it leads to silence and inaction.

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** SAVE THE DATES ** Our final book club selection of the year SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE by John Fugelsang will take place via Zoom on Th...

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September 23, 2025 56 mins

Revs Kelly & Ogun break down why, if you're a movement for love and inclusion, it's not a good idea to learn strategies from hate organizations.

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The Body Is Not An Apology offers radical self-love as the balm to heal the wounds inflicted by these violent systems. World-renowned activist and poet Sonya Renee Taylor invites us to reconnect with the radical origins of our minds and bodies and celebrate our collective, en...

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September 16, 2025 67 mins

Revs Kelly & Ogun discuss Charlie Kirk's murder, various reactions to it, and the struggle spiritual seekers are having as they try to live in the tension between empathy for a gun violence victim who also happened to be a vile bigot.

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So much has happened in the last few days, and there aren't many safe spaces to process. If there was ever a week to participate in an Antiracism Affinity Group, THIS IS THE WEEK! Join o...

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August 28, 2025 56 mins

In a recent interview, Democrat Rep Jamie Raskin challenged listeners to compare the Bill of Rights with the 10 Commandments. Rev Kelly accepted. 

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If your body holds the wound, it also holds the way through. WHAT IT TAKES TO HEAL: HOW TRANSFORMING OURSELVES CAN CHANGE THE WORLD isn’t a self-help book. It&rs...

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August 5, 2025 51 mins

Revs Kelly & Ogun explore the importance of rituals in justice work, and give a preview of their upcoming learning pod. 

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If your body holds the wound, it also holds the way through. WHAT IT TAKES TO HEAL: HOW TRANSFORMING OURSELVES CAN CHANGE THE WORLD isn’t a self-help book. It’s a call to reclaim your wholeness in a ...

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July 22, 2025 72 mins

Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun share their thoughts about the Mehdi Hasan vs 20 Far-Right Conservatives debate, why some our clergy still struggle with addressing current issues directly, and how playing to both sides is not in alignment with our spiritual principles.

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Many of us are grieving the state of the world, our unrealized liberation dreams, and the justice work we did over the years. Rev Kelly & Rev Ogun talk about navigating this grief, and share rituals that can help us along the way.

To learn more about project_SANTCUS and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com

Join our free book club discussion on The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century by Amia ...

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July 8, 2025 55 mins

Rev. Kelly and Rev. Ogun discuss the relationship many spiritual seekers have with the word and idea of resistance, as well as the complexities of making a decision to flee the country in the face of oppression. 

To learn more about project_SANTCUS and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com

Join our free book club discussion on The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century by Amia Srinivasan. Thur, Jul 27, 7:30pm...

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