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It's our 4 Year Podcast Anniversary Spectacular! (with Mike and Bill, of course)

Mike started off with his reading and it was focused on honesty. We were not truthful, we believed our own BS and we had very little integrity. Until we got sober. It was a good reading and a good conversation.

And yes! We have been doing this podcast thing for 4 years already. We talked about the beginning a little bit, a fun email t...

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The end of Season 8 and yep, it's Mike and Bill.

Mike started off with his reading and it was about the Why and the How and also having a sense of purpose. Life can get weird, but we have the tools and the foundation to deal with all of it. We had a good conversation.

Then we chatted about getting pulled over, Mardi Gras and a drunken celebrity, How It Works, service work, making friends, remembering the madne...

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Mike and Bill and we have an announcement! Read on...

Mike started off with his reading and it was about lost time, but also about better late than never. Sometimes we take a while to do the things that we need to, but we get there. It also talked about gratitude. It was a good conversation.

Then the announcement!

We have been nominated for Best Podcast by the Sans Bar Academy Awards. It's humbling and a little...

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It's back to your pals, Mike and Bill.

We had 3 weeks of great guests and a huge thank you to all of them! But now, it's back to basics.

Mike started off with his reading and it was about relationships. We have them now that we are sober and they are not only nice to have, they are critical for us. We need to work at it, but the end result is worth it. It was a good conversation.

We talked about a Florida ...

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Jermaine Burse! @jermainedante_art

Visual Artist and Published Author (Autopsy of My Former Self)Jermaine is a critically acclaimed visual artist and published author whose rise from sleeping in his car to becoming a globally collected creator shapes the emotional force of his work. 

His art, held by elite athletes, celebrities, cultural leaders, and major brands, captures human evolution with raw honesty and ref...

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Benjamin Flaherty. @stoptheshuffle

Ben is an Austin-based filmmaker with a diverse collection of work - from documentary and art films with Lou Reed & Julian Schnabel to commercial spots for major brands. 

His short form PSA’s have been awarded at Cannes, D&AD, One Show and the Clios. 

His documentary feature debut, Shuffle, won the Grand Jury Prize for Best Feature at the 2025 SXSW Film and Television Fest...

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Jim O’Connor.

Jim is the founder and executive director of the Second Story Foundation, where he leads long-term recovery and workforce programs for men rebuilding their lives after substance use disorder. 

After experiencing homelessness and severe alcoholism, O’Connor entered recovery in 2016, an experience that reshaped his life and approach to healing. Drawing on both lived experience and professional training...

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Change of plans! Jermaine had a family situation and a technology glitch, so he will join us at the end of the month.

You are stuck with Mike and Bill and we are determined to be Your Favorite Time Suck.

Mike started out with his reading and it was one of our favorites from 24 Hours A Day and from January 6th. We have talked about it before, but we do explain the importance of the reading.

We jumped into the show ...

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A New Year with Mike and Bill! Same old stuff, different year.

Mike started out with his reading and it was about blame and hiding. We were always good at that before we got sober and it could be an easy trap to fall back into. It was a good conversation.

We chatted about some medical stuff, New Year's Resolutions, Dry January, Mike's trip to see classic stuff from MAD Magazine, triggers and glimmers, detaching, e...

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Same old hosts, different week.

Mike started out with his reading and it was about allowing others to give and not being afraid to ask for help. Those can be hard things for people like us and it was a good conversation.

There was a horrible (but funny) holiday story, we heard a great quote about fear, talked about faith over fear, the show Brockmire, comparing ourselves to others, and people on the bubble.

We also...

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Jeremy Pierson - @jeremylpierson - Spiritual Coach & Founder, Practical Spirituality

Dedicated to helping people live more consciously, peacefully, and purposefully by applying spiritual principles in everyday life. "Practical Spirituality " explores topics like self-awareness, emotional healing, intuition, energy clearing, and personal transformation - all without the need to adopt someone else'...

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Mike and Bill and no issues with the recording! We have had a great experience with Zencastr in general, but it was nice to be back to "normal."

Let's Party Like It's 199! Or just more of the same.

Mike started out with his reading and it was about the past. What was it like before we got sober? What did we gain with sobriety? The positives definitely outweigh the negatives and it was a good conv...

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Yep, it's a "normal" week with Mike and Bill. At least it's our version of "normal."

Mike started out with his reading and it was about Practicing These Principals In All Our Affairs. Honesty and integrity. Other people being able to count on us and being able to count on ourselves. A great topic and a great conversation.

We jumped into how people look at good years and bad years, Danny...

"The park is closed, the moose out from should have told you."

The great John Candy from the movie, Vacation.

But seriously, we are having an issue with our recording studio and apparently they have an issue with their server.

The episode for this week is recorded, but Zencastr needs to fix the problem and then we will be able to upload the episode.

Stay tuned and thank you for your patience!

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The Gratitude Episode! (With Mike and Bill)

To be completely honest, we didn't fall over ourselves trying to make this just a Gratitude Episode. We try to live that way every day and hopefully it shows.

Mike started out with his reading and it was about saying thank you. Those are two very simple words, but do we use them enough? Do we truly appreciate when someone is kind to us? It takes work to be kind and w...

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Mike and Bill, doing this thing that they do.

Mike started out with something a little different. It was reading, but it was actually from a speech that Dr. Bob gave in Cleveland, in July of 1950.

He talked about AA, the simplicity of the program and keeping it that way. He also talked about kindness, consideration and tolerance. It was a great thing to hear and discuss.

We chatted about family events. Mike was wi...

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Yep, it's us again, Mike and Bill. And buckle up, because we had a lot to talk about.

Mike started out with his reading and it was about letting go and hanging on. Which is better and which is worse? Could they be interchangeable? It was a great topic and we had a good conversation.

Then we had a brief conversation about John Candy. There is a documentary out now about his life and we are both fans. We don...

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Megan Swan @meganswanwellness

She's a fellow Sober Curator and has a few other things going on in her life. 

Megan Swan is the founder and CEO of Megan Swan Wellness and Altavita Medical Wellness Tourism, an integrative wellness coach, author, and podcast host who works with high-impact women globally.

She champions wellness-alignment as the wave of the future—a non-negotiable strategy in both life and busines...

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Beth McDonough @bemcdn

She is a seasoned journalist and investigative reporter whose career spanned some of the nation’s largest television markets, from Houston and Philadelphia to Minneapolis and Missouri.

She is also the author of the book Standby. (On sale now on Amazon)

McDonough says it recounts her public downfall, taking readers behind the headlines of her jail time and arrests.Today, she lives in southern ...