Jamal Cristopher on Intuit Dome Sound, a PG Diss, What ifs & Optimism on This Year

Clippers Talk with Adam Auslund. Jamal Cristopher joins the show to talk about his experience at Intuit Dome and the sound levels, his Paul George diss, his hope for this season, What ifs, Mac Miller and much more. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to Clippers Talk.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Adam Osland. You find the show under that name
now on the YouTube side. If you've been podcasting it
for so long on Spotify, as it's been around for
at least seven years now, you can still find it
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now on YouTube at clippers Talk. If you've missed some

(00:28):
of the episodes so far since we started things up
with the podcasting, we had Andrew gryfon from The La
Times yesterday, Brian Simo was on last week. Matt Moore
and me had a drag out fight regarding Paul George
HP Basketball. Of course that Matt Moore, you might want
to subscribe just based off of that, but I'd say
give this episode a try first. See how it fits you,

(00:50):
see how it works for you, because tonight I think
I have a good one joining the show right now.
Is not only an artist on Spotify and a frequent
analyst on X and a lot of the jam the podcast,
but he's one of my basketball north stars, someone whose
opinion holds a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Of weight as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's my friend Jamal Christopher at Jamal Christopher c R
I S t O p h E R on Instagram
or at jam Christopher on X Jamal my friends, how
are we doing it?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I'm great your part too kind for that, uh that
intro right there, but I consider you much of the
same as well. Man. We've been we've been pretty locked
in for a while. We've done something like this in
the past, and you're my guy. Man, I'm glad to
be on and you said it, whether it was right,

(01:45):
you've got uh I think you got dying coming on
tomorrow like you're you're doing your thing. So I'm I'm
I'm just honored to be on, man. So uh yeah.
Anybody that that shares that clipper passionate like I do.
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Man, Thank you. I appreciate the love here.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Needed to have you on early on as I get
this YouTube series underway here of course, and I heard
you right into it. Doome Thursday night for the christening,
the opening ceremony. Not only that you went to the
show afterwards, you saw the Bruno Mars show. I know
there was a hiccup. I want all the details on this.

(02:23):
Was it the face scan technology? Were they able to
rectify it in a swift manner. How did that go?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
What was it like?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
The experience in general was awesome. Man, that was my
second time that I had been into it. And yeah,
you just you just feel the presence of like the Clippers.
Even with a Bruno Mars concert, there was hiccups. It
had to do with the face scanning, and it just

(02:53):
really created like a little log diamer. That's all. It
really was. Things that I feel will be so it
out by the by the opening night against the Suns.
But yeah, I was there. It was cool to see
some of the Clippers there. I mean, you you would
like to see like you know, Kawhi and Harden, but

(03:15):
some Clippers were there. You really felt what it meant
to be in that moment, right like it was a
landmark Dave for for Clipper fans and just the franchise
in general. And it was cool because you had that
part of things, and then you also had the people
who had no clue what the Clippers were, didn't even
care about the Clippers. They were like, it's Bruno. I'm

(03:36):
trying to hear twenty four carres in there. That's all
they cared about. So yeah, it was like a mix.
But I think the biggest takeaway was like everybody was like,
this arena is crazy. It's crazy, it's awesome. It still
has that new arena smell. Yeah I'm a Bruno Mars fan,

(03:57):
so that that added to it. But yeah, every time
I go back to the end of a dome, it
just kind of it's it's so crazy when you when
you factor in like where I sat to witness like
Clipper games and concerts the last few years, it's a
it's a difference. Man. The moment you sit in your chair,
You're like, wow, like this is this is new, this

(04:19):
is the fresh, this is invigorating. I had a great time,
and yeah, I'm planning to go back on the twenty third,
at least I'm trying. I'm trying to get off work now.
But uh yeah, no, I had a great time man.
And yeah, to answer the swiftly part, it was it
was pretty swift. When you're there, it doesn't feel as

(04:39):
swift because, like you know, you're standing in the line,
and as you're standing just more people are starting to come.
You would like for that process to be in and out.
But like I was talking with my brother about it,
and the second night of the Bruno Marsh concert, you
didn't hear much of that at all, And then he

(05:00):
had they had shows going on this past weekend. You
didn't hear anything about that at all. Olivia Rodrigo is
performing there tonight, so I'm assuming that's gonna go over
swiftly and well, So, yeah, I think that was kind
of like the first night thing. I mean, I know,
for me, I expected it because it's like a brand
new arena, a brand new app. Even just reading about it, right,

(05:23):
you're just like, what like face scanning, Like this is
how we're going to do things. It was a brand
new experience for me, So I I knew if I
was gonna have like some kind of trepidation regarding it,
it wouldn't surprise me that there would be hiccups alone way,
And I think Balmber kind of alluded to it during
the ribbon ceremony, if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, no, bro,

(05:44):
it was. It was great, man, it was great.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I can't wait to go back a little bit of
patience Clipper Nation, let him work out the kinks. But
by October twenty third, you would expect it to be
smoothed out for opening night against the Phoenix Suns.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
It into its home. I need to know this.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I heard from Brian Seeman late night. He texted me
at midnight. It was madness. I can't wait to be
here for a basketball game. What was the sound? What
was the sound like in the building compared to Crypto,
compared to other venues. Maybe the Form, which I think
has really good sound, Crypto not so much. Once the
crowd fills in, it kind of muffles it. How was

(06:19):
the sound and into it though? It was a THHX quality.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Crystal clear and loud? I mean I don't I don't
really have like a deep dive on that. But other
than like, it's just loud and you feel you feel
it like it's it's a much closer I think you
just said it with the Form. I don't know. If
you've ever watched the show at the Form versus a
show at Crypto, you kind of can feel the difference,

(06:48):
much more intimate. Yeah, it's loud, man, it's jumping, and
even in that scenario, it's kind of like you I
don't know, because like you would you would would hope
that waiting outside uh to get in when damping things
for people and it didn't. They got in. Once Bruno

(07:08):
got on, it was loud. Man, that's that was just
like my biggest takeaway. It was super loud. So yeah,
what be Seen said is true. Man, I can just
imagine a Clipper game or a playoff game, especially like dude, like,
that's that's a real home court advantage right there. So yeah, no,
super loud, super crystal clear. I had a few drinks

(07:29):
in me, so you know, thank it with thank you
for how you want it. But no, it was loud
and it was great.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Did Bruno acknowledge the Clippers much?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Did he's say anything, Hey, I used to be a
fan of this team, but I might be converted to
the Clippers now or so.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
He didn't. But what he did acknowledge is he acknowledged
in the middle of his show he was like, hold up,
hold up, that we're making California history. We just opened
it endto a dome. I need everybody to go crazy.
Da da da, And then towards the end he acknowledged
he thanks Steve Balmer for giving him the opportunity to
open it to a So that was real cool, real cool.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
How was the traffic on the way out?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Where did you park and how quickly were you able
to hit the freeway to get out of there.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
It wasn't quick. Wasn't quick, but I haven't been so far.
But it wasn't like, I don't know, like it was
to be expected. It wasn't quick, but it wasn't like
super drawn out. I don't I don't know that the
garage the name of the garage yet that I parked it,

(08:38):
but it's right by. Uh shit, I forgot. I parked
there for the tour that I.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Went on as well, the West Garage.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Maybe I think that's that might be what it is.
I would have to look at my emails. But no,
the traffic was was regular.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'll take that.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, like like it was, I don't know, like if
you've been to like a Dodger game, or even if
you've been to like a Clipper game, to a lesser extent,
like it's nothing like you can't manage like. I saw
that on Twitter as well, where people were just like, oh,
this is just gonna be super packed trying to get out.
I didn't experience that. I didn't experience that. It wasn't

(09:21):
like an in and out thing unless you decided to
like lead the concert early, but like, no, you it
was pretty pretty smooth, don't.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
People got home in an orderly fashion, nothing too unusual
or out of the ordinary.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's all we want.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
That's all we want.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
What are some of the keys for you within too
a dome and the difference that's going to be made
there for Clipper Nation and experiencing basketball at this place.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
For me, the biggest key is going to be the people, man,
because it falls on us as fans. To me, that's
the biggest key, right, Like Bomber has done its part right.
He's created a more h for lack of a better term,
but he made an environment where you could be more
into it. And once you once you get there, you'll

(10:13):
see it. Like even the super high not super high,
but like even the highest sections you feel like you're
much closer to the action than you would be at Crypto.
You've never experienced a basketball game the way you're going
to experience that into it. Just sitting in my seat
for the tour, I was like, wow, Like just the

(10:35):
halo is crazy, and yeah, like every seat in the
arena you feel like you're on top of the players
and it just really creates a home court advantage. You know,
we were saying it felt a little bit like the
Lone Beach Pyramid. The best ways I could explain it

(10:57):
is the Lone Beach Pyramid and combined with San Diego State,
combined with the Utah Jazz That's kind of how it
looked and felt with the arena. And yeah, I think
Valmer achieved what he set out to do, which was
create an environment that incites fans to want to be
a fan. And I think that's what's what it's going

(11:19):
to come down to. It's a state of the art,
billion dollars you go through, you can see your high
school on the wall, like it. It's crazy. You can
go on and on about all of the things and
all of the features of the arena, but if we
don't bring it as fans when it comes to providing
that home court advantage for the guys, and it's like,
you know, but I do think that's going to be

(11:41):
the biggest key fans night in and night out on
that Monday night versus the nets. Are you guys going
to come out and yell to the top of your lungs.
Because I'm a true believer in home court advantage. I've
seen Clipper crowds at Crypto very underrated. So I'm excited
to see what a really good crowd at into It

(12:04):
is gonna look like. But yeah, it's gonna fall on
a fant of me. That's gonna be the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm gonna make a prediction here based upon what you've said,
what I heard from Brian Seamen, what I saw when
I went and visited Okay, because Brian said they had
six thousand people there for a test run scattered throughout
the arena, which holds about eighteen thousand in full capacity.
He said, I believe the decibel level that it got
up to was one twenty one forty is a jet engine.

(12:36):
I remember it being one ten up at our Coole
Arena where I'm from back in the day during the
Cowbell days and the heyday for the Sacramento Kings was
see Webb in the curw.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
It was definitely if six.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Thousand people can create one hundred and twenty decibels near
the floor, eighteen thousand, I'm gonna say this is gonna
end up being the new loudest arena when Clipper Nation
brings it, they're gonna be able to reach magnitudes and
sound decibels that we haven't heard even in places like

(13:09):
Okay See that are known.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
To be loud. I don't I don't disagree, and honestly,
I don't even think it's going to be that hard
of a feat as long as, like you said, the
fans bring it. It's like like the little stuff like
everybody knows now about how there's charges at every seat.
You go and get something to eat, the game clock
is right there learning you like, hey, you need to

(13:31):
get back to your seat. It's really a mecca for basketball.
It's really incites you to be a fan. And those
are things that have never pretty much ever been done
in a basketball arena. So yeah, no, I would see that,
and I don't disagree at all. I honestly would be
shocked if we weren't the lotest arena in the league.

(13:55):
Hopefully our guys come through and provide the product on
the floor, because we do need that as well to
make it, you know, work between the fans and the players.
But no, if if the fans bring it, I don't
even think he's going to be close. Man, Like maybe
I'm gassing it a little bit, bro, but like he's
not lying. Like when I was at the Bruno Marshall, Bro,

(14:18):
it got so loud and I can just imagine how
mind you, this is a Clipper arena for like a
pop star, a Clipper arena for a Clippers basketball game.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
So they had to reconfigure it.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
The wall was down, they had to make it for
the concert right, right.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
And so and then if I'm not mistaken, for the
concert venue, you do have to cut out a certain
amount of seats just for the same in a sense.
So yeah, man, there's nothing like a basketball venue, a
venue that was made for basketball and having that basketball
team that I just I just think this guy's the
limited in terms of noise noise, noise noise.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
You know, I always say, bring the mother f and
ruckus come on.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Man, Like I always say. The loudest game that I've
ever been to in my life was Game six in
the Semis in twenty twenty one versus a Jazz. I
was close enough to where it literally felt like the
ground was shaky and I can literally see the Jazz
players like, yeah, you're in. You're in some shit, you
know what I mean, Like like I think we can

(15:26):
eclipse that. So yeah, bro, I'm looking forward to him. Man,
I'm looking forward to him, and guy's the limit in
terms of the voice that the Clipper fans can bring.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
For sure, I know a guy on good authority that
can back you up on that being one of the
loudest games ever at Crypto because big brother Jake Warner,
the head engineer for the Clippers radio station. He's also
worked for the Lakers in the past.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
He has worked he continues to work with the La Kings.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
He's seen Stanley Cup final games there, he has seen.
He was at Game seven Lakers Boston.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
He said, the.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Only game he'll be on the pod soon. The only
game that was louder, that got louder in that arena
that he could remember was Kobe's final game again also
against Utah in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's it outside that it's game six, Clippers coming back
down twenty five. Terrence Man with thirty nine against Utah
to advanced in the Western Commerce Finals.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, you know, to be fair, that was like the
first home game in which what was it like COVID
had kind of lifted a little bit and.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
It still wasn't full capacity.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's it wasn't full capacity. But like I
just remember the Mavericks had like sell our crowds and
then we had like cut out cardboard fans and then
Game six was like the first game where we could
actually have like a decent showing in terms of fans,
and we brought it that night, and so yeah, I

(16:55):
think we can eclipse that easy so Withinto It. So yeah,
I'm excited. Man.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think I saw the cardboard cutout from three minutes
of a Baby and the jazz.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
We're seeing some ghosts then too. That's an old weird rumor. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Jamal Christopher is our guest here on Clippers Talk. I'm
excited for this. I'm excited to have him tonight. We
still have a lot to get into here. I wanted
that first hand account of Into It during the first
concert with Bruno Mars. But I want to go back
a little bit further before we project and talk about
this season with some predictions here. Because you had been

(17:29):
for so long, Jamal one of the good soldiers for
Paul George, battling people online that were overly negative about him,
talking about his inconsistencies, talking about his playoff lows. You
would stand up for him, and you would bring up
how nobody talks about Damian Lillard and some of his

(17:51):
playoff low points. Nobody talks about Jimmy Butler and that
series he had what in twenty one or twenty two
against Milwaukee, and you would defend George.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
When did you turn?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Was it after the playoff series against Dallas where you
just couldn't defend it anymore? Or was it the day
of where after everyone knew he was leaving and it
was obvious and the Clippers put out that statement that
they're no longer pursuing bringing back Paul George. You ethered
him on X something good.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
You can lie that was one.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Hey give yourself credit.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I have it.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I have it right here. And if you wouldn't mind,
if you wouldn't mind, Jamal, would you mean, I don't know,
do this a cappella and spit this verse here because
it's a parody of Meet the Grams by Kendrick Lamar,
and you adapted it and you put it in terms
and in lyrics for.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
About Paul George regarding him leaving. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
If not, you're gonna have to make the corny white
guy do it. Nobody wants to hear that. Nobody wants
to hear that.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I can. I'll do it. I just got to get
my phone because I can't see it.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I don't know if I can make this any bigger here.
This is at jam Christopher. It only got one point
six million views here and Jamal right afterwards doing the
laughing emojis, and I know it was okay, here we go,
here we go.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, say, well, you know you got to have the
whole Kendrick the grand Uh playing in the background.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Hold on, I can get that. I can get that.
I can get that.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, you tell me if you hear it, and tell
me if it's too loud or not, because for.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Whatever reason, we'll let me hear the music.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Tell me if you hear this, Yeah, I can hear it.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Is that is that appropriate?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Levels? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, you got eighteen seconds here to get this in
based upon the mix you put up yourself.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
So this is an.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Eighteen second instrumental that you're going to have to perform
over here, Jamal.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Starting in three two, you lied.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
About the Heavy Queens. You lied about you lied about
the getting back and where you want to retire at.
You lied about the battle cards. You lied about the
point guard.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
You lied about the benefits, you lie about the bully,
you lied, Meet the Georges.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Thank you for iterritating me there and indulging the audience.
I just I had to hear it because it is
an all timer. Again, it's got almost two million views.
Paul George has likely seen this.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
This is something Dallas Rutherford, one of the guys, may
have stumbled upon from his podcast.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
But you went in hard.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I know.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Some of that was just having some fun with it
and we got to laugh to stop from crying sometimes
as Clippers fans. So it was it was well put,
it was well taken. But was there is there that
much animosity from you towards Paul Jeory now as as
things completely flipped with him going to Philly.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Nah, not not to that extent like you said. I
was just I was just doing my thing for me.
I and my brother were backing me up. I thought
Paul George was leaving for a while months prior to
him actually leaving. I was one of the guys who
believed that he had a max offer out there, and

(21:26):
I always said, you know, Paul George is thirty four
years old and You're gonna have to show me a
thirty four year old willingly passing up that full max
that the Sixers were offering, not to mention, not to
mention that it was towards a contender. So it was like, yeah, bro,

(21:48):
if the sister think is real, I think he's out
of there. And so I thought I thought he was
leaving for a while. But yeah, I don't know. I
wouldn't say like it was a full turn. I think
as you can attest to it, when you watch somebody
every game for like five years, your opinions a lot

(22:11):
like his game is just kind of like this, right,
it's just up and down. I do think that that
this series versus the Mavericks was kind of just like, Okay,
what are we doing? Like not only is Kawhi hurt,
but like you are asking for max money and you,

(22:32):
I mean, he looked terrible. He looked terrible, you know,
he wasn't even hardened. Was better than him, Zoo was
better than him, and it's like, what are we doing
at this Terence Terrence was better than him, and.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Tucker in the second half of Game six was better, like.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
You know, its just it was just really disheartening. To see.
It was disheartening to see it in that way. But yeah,
I used to go to bat for George Man because
I still do think sometimes he gets an unfair he's
unfair criticism that comes his way. But and Philly fans

(23:10):
will soon realize this, a lot of it is warranted.
And when you watch him every night, what you will
see that the other fans don't see is the random
I played forty minutes and I have six points and
I've shot four times. Why why does that happen? You
know what I mean? Stuff like that, or the week

(23:31):
or two where it seems like you're starting to ask,
is Norman Powell actually better than you? Like? What's going
on here? And you know you can you can go
and say Kawhi's injuries, you can say we didn't get
hardened to start the year. You can say whatever. But
at the end of the day, the onus is always

(23:52):
gonna fall on the guys who were on the floor.
Like I wish Kawhi Leonard was on the floor, he wasn't.
There's not much you can say about that. But when
it comes to PG, I just think, man, you know
in twenty nineteen, the guy that we traded for was
coming off first Team All NBA twenty eight, twenty nine

(24:14):
a game, first Team All Defense, third MVP voting, and yeah,
he wasn't even thirty, so he was like right in
the middle of his prime. So you figure, if you
pair him with the Finals MVP, that's worth everything. Just
give the house. We need to pair those two guys
up and give it our best shot. And while those

(24:36):
two guys during that era, they weren't good on the floor,
but the Paul George that we got and I'm not
even let's not even talk about the injuries yet because
that's just unfortunate, bad luck. But when Paul George was
actually on the floor, we got a really good Jalen
Brown ish tier player, which is really good. He's really good,

(24:59):
and I still think he's one of the best players
in franchise history. But that is not the player we
traded for. We traded for a guy that is fighting
for first Team All NBA alongside Kawhi Leonard, and we
didn't get that, and that had a trickle down effect
on a lot of things. That is why Harden eventually

(25:20):
ended up being here. And yeah, it's it's such that
it ended the way it did. I don't hold too
much animosity for it because at the end of the day,
we are the Clippers and this is still a guy
that as a Clipper was an All NBA, multiple All Stars,

(25:43):
and yeah for the loan finals, I mean not finals,
but Western Conference finals apparent he averaged twenty seven a game.
So that on that note, I am definitely appreciative of PG.
That's why, like that tweet is like, I'm just doing
my thing. I'm just getting my jokes off. I kind
of mean some of it, but like I'm getting my
jokes off, but it's.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Truth in the jest.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
But overall, I think I interpreted and everybody interpreted it
the right way.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Except PEG fans. They've been But like the thing with
PG fans, bro, it's like I, depending on what day
I get on Twitter, is like I either hate Paul
George or I give Paul George waye too much love.
Like I've heard both of both sides.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
So it probably means you're being objective hate from everybody,
You're probably being objective.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, I try to be man, especially when it comes
to Paul George. And it's not because even before the Clippers,
he was one of my favorite players. And having him
join the team, it was just like wow, like you know,
I'm I'm on cloud nine. And yeah, sometimes when you
when you get to see things up close, it's like,
this is cool, but this is not what I thought

(26:49):
it would be. And yeah, it just sucks that it
ended that way. But yeah, I still hold Paul George
in high regard, especially or in this Clipper team.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
He deserves again, as Jersey retired at some point out
of the line by this Clippers organization. How easy would
it be for you to make the case to make
the argument that the Clippers got the better end of
the exchange. With James Harden now being a Clipper and
Paul George being in Philadelphia, It's almost like there was
a trade that happened between those two players. How do

(27:23):
you can you make that case today that James Harden
is the better player can have the better season.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
I can't. I don't know how much it would matter,
because at the end of the day, if you asked
me to answer honestly, as of August twentieth, Paul George
and the Sixers are in a better position to attempt
a title chase than we are now. So I don't

(27:53):
really know how much it would matter. But I think
it's very clear that James Harden is a better player.
I said this a few days ago, that there's real
potential for the Harden and Kawhi duo to be a
better fit than PG and Kawhi just off of the
fact that you know Kawhi Leonard. You can make the

(28:15):
argument Kawhi Leonard has never played with a point guard
that's good as James Harden. You could argue that Paul
George is coming off his most efficiencyason ever because of
James Harden, and James Harden has raised the floor of
teams even last year in a way that I don't
even think Paul George has ever done in his career.

(28:36):
And so he just plays a very high IQ Prize
every possession brand of basketball. It's like, you know, I
don't mean to throw shots at Paul George, but when
the ball is in James Harden or Kawhi's hands, I
don't think about the ball going into the fifth row
or doing some like what the kind of pass are

(28:58):
you throwing?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
You know what I mean, Hey, that's gonna be like
the tenth throw into it dumb because the seats are
so much closer.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
There you go, there you go, there you go. So yeah,
especially after the playoffs last year, I'm not I'm not
gonna lie. Like during the season, I felt like Paul
George was our second best scoring option, but I felt
always that James Harden was our second best player because
of how he can lift the team, he can make

(29:24):
plays for Zoo, how he can make plays for Terrence Man,
how he can make the game easier for Paul George
and Kawhi, and then in the playoffs, I just thought
it was just abundantly clear by that point, like, yeah,
James Harden, if Paul George was as good as he
was billed, we would have gotten out the first round
even without Kauahi. Right, So yeah, I think I can

(29:46):
make the case pretty pretty easily, honestly, that James Harden
is a better player then Paul George. But then again,
that just packs a question, like you know, how much
does that matter? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
What are because you're higher than most on the Clippers
coming into this season, at least you were before the
schedule orally released, that may have changed some things for you.
But I know you were saying a lot of people
are sleeping on this team.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
They're better than you realize.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
How much of that is on the growth and development
of it eats a Zoo boss and Terrence Man now
having you would assume bigger roles.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Oh everything, especially Zu, especially Zoo. I'm hired, I'm higher
than most on the Clippers. Uh, but I do believe
that without a Zoo leap, it just becomes very tough. Again,
it goes back to what I said about Paul George.
When you watch a guy every night, you can kind

(30:48):
of get a more accurate, like depiction of who he
is as a player. Same with Zoo. I've watched Zoo
every game since he'd been a Clipper, and that's been
easy because he doesn't miss up the time, another reason
why I love him. But yeah, he's just his offensive
game every single season. Man just grows the individual stuff

(31:11):
where you can just throw the ball to Zoo and say, hey,
we we need we need to belout it's low on
the shot clock. Uh, just get us a quick two.
It feels like everything around the rim goes in. He's
also one of the best defenders in the league. I
think the second year synergy of Harden and Zoo will
only be better. So yeah, I have us in like

(31:35):
the the the sixth of the six to ten range
going into the season, but that can even go higher
if we do get a career year from Zoo and
and again that that is asking a lot, but when
you watch what he did in the first round last year,
what him and Harden did in the first round last year,

(32:00):
I'm all the way in on Zoo. I think Zoo
has all the reason to be one of the most
improved players in the league this year. It's same for
Terrence Man. Law talks about it a lot, how every
time Terrence Man is given more of a leash, uh

(32:21):
he produces. And just last year just so happened that
he ended up being squeezed with Harden and Westbrook, Kawhi,
Paul George and so he doesn't get the ball as much.
But this is the year where he's probably gonna be featured.
So I'm really looking forward to the leak that Terrence
Man can take as well. One of the best finishes

(32:43):
in the league, one of the best athletes in the league.
We're gonna need that, especially with the absence of Russell
Westbrook in terms of that backcourt pace and in force
to the rim. That this version of James Harden may
not provide as much. So yeah, between those two, man,
if those two pan out the way that I think

(33:05):
they can, yeah, I think we absolutely are one of
the more underrated teams in the league going into the year,
but understandably so because I don't want to sit here,
sit up here and like live not Replacing Paul George
makes it much more of a mountain to climb. And
the steps that you are asking Zoo in terrence to take, wow,

(33:28):
I think are possible. They are real steps. So that's
why our range of outcomes to me includes like barely
you know in the playing almost but I have a
stop six. I do have a sup six.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Give me a stat line on averages with the beatsa
zubos for them to get to that six spot and
stay out of the playing Are you saying eighteen and eleven,
sixteen and ten? What do you think it needs to
average for them to hit their ceiling?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
In your mind?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
What he did in the playoffs, So if I'm not mistaken,
that was like sixteen and ten, sixteen them eleven, something
like that. I think what he did in the playoffs
he can replicate it. This may be some zu Gas,
But I think that's the player man. I think he
can do it. I agree. I think it's gonna have
a lot to do with I saw Shap tweeted it today.

(34:24):
He was saying, let Zoo go. Twll right, let him go,
And I think it's gonna have a lot to do
with like Tie and Kawhi and James to really say, like, hey,
we really believe you can be our third guy. We
really this guy as a limit. They've got to trust
him and feed him. I'm kind of going off the
rails here, but like feed him like he's joking, bro,
Like he he has the second best touch in the

(34:46):
league around the rim other than Jokis, doesn't miss. Like,
give him the ball and give him as much as
he can handle and that will make the game easier
for everyone else. It is time to unleash Zoo. If
we're gonna do this this year, it is time to
unleash do And yeah, I'm I'm all on the Zoo train.

(35:07):
I think the sky is the limit for him. He's healthy,
he plays every game, one of the best defenders in
the league in a restricted area. He's money. He's got
to jump hook now, even if you give it give
it to him outside of his little range. He's got
the floater that he can give you. I just think

(35:27):
the world of Zoo and his abilities, and I just
think for years we haven't trusted him enough, and I
think we may be it. We may be in a
position now where we have to and I think he
can pay dividence.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
You've had the meet the Graham's parody. I've thought about
doing a Forgot About dre parody for a beat to
Zoo boss, because so often they say, oh, this is it,
We're gonna start getting him more involved, more touches. It
happens for a game or two, and then it's over
when Zoo fails. When Zoo has a bad moment or

(35:59):
possession or two, it's like he gets treated as a
rookie still. Sometimes he has no built up equity within
the team or the coaching staff. It feels like I think,
I think it's gonna be different this season. But over
the years, with so many with Paul George and so
many mouths to feed, it has froze him out at times.
And I can't take it because he's too important. There

(36:21):
is an easier way to win ball games, and it
is playing for a Vitza Zubos.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, I mean, you know it was I remember, what
was it, twenty two twenty three, the year that we
got Westbrook, and like, you know, right before we got Westbrook,
we are you know, we got our guys complaining to
the media like we need a point guard, and Paul
George is saying the answers Westbrook. He's out there, and

(36:49):
I'm just like, yeah, okay, but like more of what
you alluded to, there's an easier way to do this,
just throwing the ball and let him put out some
fires the same way he put out fires on the
defensive end. Yeah. I don't know what it is, man,
I do know Tylu loves a small ball. He trusted

(37:12):
Zoo a lot more last year though. But I think
from a feature standpoint, that's the key right there, right,
I'm not talking about just playing Zoo more, giving him
more touches, no, no, no, no, feature him. This is
one of the star players on the team. He is
the third best player on the team. Give him the ball,

(37:33):
and you know this is a guy that what was
the game against the Pacers, like almost what was it,
thirty and thirty twenty nine?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think he fouled out and didn't get that last rebound.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, man, I saw him give Jokic thirty five man
or in Denver. Come on, man, like Lewis like that man.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
So he's wrecked Yokic.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
He's given him two of his worst shooting games in
his career, you know.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
And you know they always get us, They always get
on us about the twenty twenty three to one, But
the minutes in which Zoo was on the floor with Jokic,
we won those minutes. Like zu is, He's I don't know, man,
I don't know. I do feel much better about our
chances though. If we do get a sixteen seventeen a

(38:22):
game year out of Zoo, if he has it in him,
I believe he does. I think that's what's gonna happen.
I'm gonna go on record and say it. I think
we're gonna get a career high year from Zoo. And
if you get enough Kawhi games along with that, James
Harden more aggression because no Paul George, then yeah, I

(38:43):
think we can avoid the playing, which to me is
our goal. That's my goal for the Clippers this year,
avoid the playing. Getting the playoffs with a healthy Kawhi
and then all bets are off at that point, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
You put out at Jim Christopher on ax Reese only
during the Summer League, something to the effect of, I
think we got one here talking about Jordan Miller.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
What did you mean?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
What did you mean by that? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
How much potential do you see in him?

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I love Gas At that point, I was, I was.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
He should have been the MVP of Summer League.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
There was reason to be. He was robbed, man, he
was rob But you know, when it comes to us
in our in our picks, man, like we strike out
so much, and when we strike out, it's not like
it's not like we, oh, this player didn't pan out.
These players leave the Clippers and aren't in the league anymore,

(39:44):
or like these guys can't even get on the floor
to help us, you know what I mean. Like by
the end of last year, like our rotation was embarrassingly thin,
you know what I mean, And we have guys like respectfully,
I don't I don't want to miss anybody, but like
Moon's taking up spots. You know, you can't play him
in a game, you know what I mean. You're not putting,

(40:05):
You're not putting him in the game. And so I
know a lot of people like to say, like Kylou
doesn't trust young guys, and I'm not so sure about that.
I think more than anything, the young guys that we
have a lot of times just aren't up to the
up to the challenge, not good enough. Now I think
that's starting to turn a little bit. I was really

(40:26):
encouraged with Jordan Miller because for me, I'm a big
proponent of like, like I need to see a runaway
right and dating back, he was awesome in college G
League dominated. It was legit too easy for him. Got
in the Summer league dominated, it was too easy for him.
Now you're like, Okay, this is a guy that we

(40:49):
can put on the floor and I don't even not
a star or anything, but like we can put him
on the floor and spell us for five minutes without
the game going to shred, you know what I mean. So, yeah, him,
I think Kobe. I do think Kobe should have got
a longer lease last year. But I do think Kobe

(41:09):
as well. And Cam Christy, who I'm I'm super high on.
I'm a big camp Chrisy guy. Yeah, I think we
got one with Jordan in terms of finally having young
guys that we can put out on the floor and
he can like be solid. But I think I can
say the same thing for Kobe, and I'm not too

(41:31):
far off, maybe a year away from saying that with
Cam Christy. I'm super high on Camp. So yeah, that
that summer league experience, man, was I don't think I
can remember a more fun summer league watching Clippers basketball.
I remember the Semis. I was literally up like it
was a regular season game, like get a stop to stop,

(41:51):
you know what I mean? Like I was into it, man,
No fun. Uh yeah, that was a fun summer funmer did.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
The schedule releaset temper at expectations at all are kind
of damn for them because sixteen back to backs because
second toughest strength of schedule.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Any of these things upset you. I'm a little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Irked just because first year into a dome, here we go,
no more afternoon games. Great, but then sixteen back to
backs and there's another team in LA that has thirteen
and I don't know, I know someone's pointed out the
fact that the Lakers have more nationally televised games and
they're trying to not have those teams play a game

(42:34):
before that game or the day after that game, and
that could help them out. But the Clippers have their
own damn arena, Yes, Renty rent and the Clippers have
their own home.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, exactly, And it's better than don't get me start.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
They got a ten year lead on the next best arena.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
They do it real talk, real talk. Honestly, I can't
say the back to back shirts me too much. It's
kind of like it is what it is. I obviously
wouldn't prefer it. But when they said we had no
madnee games, I was like, oh, the other shoot has
to drop, you know what I mean. Like I'm like, oh, no,

(43:21):
this can't be. This can't be, like like this is
way too good, you know. So, yeah, I've never been
a guy other than like the Mad Das and even
the Mad days, Like I never really gave them too
much treatence. It wasn't until it actually appeared that it
started to mess with us. And I'm like, Okay, we

(43:42):
need to find a way to get out of this
because we obviously stink in the afternoon. But yeah, I'm
not a super schedule because like it's the one thing
you can't change, right, Like it is what it is.
I'm just looking forward to playing these home games. Is
that crypto crypto ship into it too? Yeah? Man, and

(44:07):
seeing the difference. I haven't really took a deep dive
into the schedule anyway, but yeah, I've never been too
much of a schedule guy, because it's like, what are
you gonna do? You know, because like I always say,
what if it's game eighty two and we're out of
the playoffs, right and or we're out of we're out
of the playing or we're into playing right and you're

(44:30):
looking at it and you're like, how did we get here?
What are you gonna do? Blame the schedule? Like are
you fine with saying, hey, our season ended because our
schedule stunk? Like no, like you know that that's a
that's a that's a terrible reason to go out, you
know what I mean? So yeah, I can't place any
blame on the schedule. Man. It is what it is.
Lace them up, be a pro. We got enough.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
I like it all right.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Before we get out of here, I wanted to shift
for a second because you met one of my eyes before,
and I have to ask you about this. How'd you
meet and have a relationship with Mac Miller.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Oh man, oh man, I could the real story. Yeah yeah, okay,
first off, rest in peace. Man, that's my dog, Man,
that's my dog. So this day's back to like twenty ten,
twenty eleven. It started off. I was just a fan.

(45:28):
I was. I was a super fan of Mac. Kids
had dropped, and yeah, I was a super fan. And
his team at the time, like I said, like eleven,
they were doing this thing where on Twitter, and they

(45:49):
were like, why should you be Why are you Mac
Miller's biggest fan. It's a contest and if you win,
you could spend a day with Mac blah blah blah
blah at right, And so after that I emailed him
and I told him why And I was a super
fan like I used to Yeah, this is crazy. I

(46:10):
used to like print out uh CDs of his Kids
mixtape and pass them out and be like, Yo, listen,
you guys are sleeping. This guy is the next best thing.
I was just super mag miillered out. Kids took me
back to a time in my youth. Man, I'm a
very nostalgic person, and like, I just thought, he's a

(46:32):
great rapper and I love this music, and so I
emailed them back and so then like a few weeks later,
I get a call from Trej is a guy named
Trej who's in his team, and he said, hey, man, like,
you're in the top three of the contest, so again,
this is your chance. Let us know why we should

(46:53):
take you, right, And so I let him know and
then they said, all right, we'll be in touch, and
then I'll never forget this day. One day, me and
my brother we were at Target, right, we were at Target.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Your brother Justin Wilson at La Clippers film, who is
in fact your brother, right, Because yeah, I gotta say this.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
There was a game last season.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I don't know which one of you came up and
talked to me before the game, and I just had
to play it cool and be like, my guy, goodness
see you.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I don't know if it was you or Justin.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
The my guy. My guys. Yeah, man's it's It's happened
a lot, man throughout our life. But yeah, we're identical.
That's my brother, my twins. But yeah, I was with him.
We were in Target, and mac Miller tweeted that he
was about to go to and still and still it's
not there anymore. But it's just like retro spot. It

(47:57):
was this retro spout on the bread where you get
like really cool retro clothes and stuff. And I used
to go there all the time. So when he tweeted that,
I was like, Yo, I'm gonna go meet him. Like
I'm just gonna go go right, And so we went.
We went, We sat, we parked right outside, right in
the front of and still, and we sit there and

(48:20):
we wait for them to show up. Right like maybe
thirty minutes past. I tell my brother like, all right,
were out and it's not gonna happen. And then as
I'm about to pull off, I see them crossing the streets. Crazy.
So I said, oh, wow, this is it. And so
I get out of the car and I go and

(48:40):
tell him. I was like, yo, what's up man? And
they were like, Yo, what's up? Man? Who are you?
And I was like, I'm Jamal. I was top three
in the contest and they was like, no way, this
is fate, bro, you won the contest. And I was
like what, no way? And then so Max was like yo,
this is and it was so crazy man. So he

(49:02):
took me inside of the ant still story. He was like, yeah,
get whatever you want, man, right, So I get whatever
I want and then he had a show that night.
It was him and Casey Veglie. They had a show
that night at the at the Traubeldoor maybe the travel
Door troupa door and he was like, are you coming
to the show tonight? And I was like, I don't

(49:24):
got tickets. He's like, bro, it's me, It's my show.
If you want to come, you can come. And so
I was like, yeah, I'm down. He was like all right.
And then as I'm about to leave, I was like,
all right, I'll see y'all at the shoulder night. As
I'm about to leave, Max says, hold up, and then
he tells his He tells his manager and he was like, yeah,

(49:45):
we can't do this, like he has to roll with us.
And I was like what And he was like do
you have anybody that can take your car? And I
was like, my brother is in the car. He's like yeah,
just tell him to take the car and just roll
with us for the day. And I was like all right,
this is crazy. This can't be happening. And so we

(50:05):
my brother takes a car back and I just spend
the day with Max. From there, we went to eat
and some spot in Beverly Hills. We were all right
in inside of a sprinter and we get out of
the car and he says, everybody got money to eat.
We all got in the circle. He pulls off this
big water cash and he just makes sure that everybody
is good. Go eat whatever you want, whatever, whatever, and

(50:28):
then we eat. Then we all get back in the sprinter.
We head back to the hotel. At this point, we're
just talking about everything in life. Some things I'm not
gonna even mention that we were talking about. It was
just crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
For kids or Blue Slide Park.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Uh no, this was before. This was the around the
time he was prepping to drop best day ever.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
That's the best day ever for a fan type thing, right.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
So so yeah, he was like it just kind of
worked out that way. So we get back to the hotel.
We're unloading his stuff. It was like the first time
I ever seen, like up close, like a rapper have
women falling over him. Like we're unloading stuff and the
girl girls are just driving by. So that was crazy.

(51:23):
And then we're just chilling at the hotel and then
we had to leave the hotel to go to soundcheck,
and then at the show. At the show later that night,
it was even more crazy because like I'm backstage now
and you know, there's smoke going on, there's drinks flowing,
and then Casey Veggie's opened up for Mac Miller. Casey

(51:47):
Veggie's brought out Don Kennedy and Tyler the creator, so
they're backstage with us, and yeah, it was just a
crazy night, man. And so I think after around like one,
they gave me some money for a taxi and I
took the taxi home and I think Benji Is it

(52:08):
was his manager, and Mack was like, Yo, let's just
keep in touch man, you're a really great guy. And
I was like, for sure, man, for sure. And so yeah,
you can see it's it's called mac Miller Funds for
everyone buying one. It's on YouTube. But yeah, that kind
of that was the start of it. And then after
that we just kind of hung out when we could

(52:29):
not a ton of times because he was always busy,
but we kept in touch. He heard that my mom
was sick. He let me know like while he was
on tour, like before every night they prayed for my mom,
which I was like, yo, that that was just you know,
he didn't have to do that, man, you know what

(52:50):
I mean. But he everything you hear about him in
terms of being a nice guy. He genuinely isn't great soul,
a super nice guy. He would always tell me, you know,
whatever it is you want to do, man, you can
do it. Man. This world is for the taking, super
positive guy. And and I miss him, man, I miss him.

(53:12):
But yeah, that's kind of like the short version of it.
But yeah he some time. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
But yeah, Mac is a Mac is a great guy,
one of my favorite rappers of all time. Going too Soon.
It's crazy because I feel like as Mac was passing,
I think the album that he dropped right when he

(53:34):
passed was Swimming, and I thought that was his best
body of work. And like you can tell, as he
got deeper into the tooth of his career, the genres
that he touched started expanding, like his flows got better,
like he just kept getting better and better year after year.

(53:54):
And so, uh, yeah, going too soon, man, But yeah,
that that's my guy. And I'm proud of say that
I actually knew him on a semi personal level.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Man, I appreciate you sharing that I became.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I'm not gonna lie I was a total casual. I
listened to kids a lot, but I didn't get deeper
into his catalog until he died posthumously.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Then I went through his.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Entire discography, from like Easy Mac all the way to
when Faces came out a couple of years ago. And
I completely understand what you're saying about the maturity and
sophistication that was coming with his music. I think of
tracks like Woods in two thousand and nine and Surf

(54:40):
and Wright and then Colors and Shapes on Faces.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I was listening to that earlier today.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I was taking a walk before the podcast here, and
I was kind of getting nostalgic and wistful and thinking
about how Max kind of a what if story and
the Clippers two and three eras of what if story.
And I think about this girl that I knew, that
you know, I loved and she loved Mac Miller, and
I think about that situation. I'm having a moment here,

(55:07):
but I was thinking about it. I was thinking about
that I messed things up? Am I a what if?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Story?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
And then I thought, Man, I just want to be
on the air when the Clippers win the championship. That's
all I want. That's all I want to ask and
I want to talk to Jamal post game.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
You know what it is, Bro, I've come to grips
with like, I love this Clipper thing way too much.
It has way too much of a bearing on my life.
I don't know what I would do if we actually
won a championship. I have a terrible case of the
what is when it comes to the Clippers. I've watched
like Game five of the twenty twenty Western Conference second Round,

(55:47):
way too many times I've watched I've watched Game six
versus the Thunder in twenty fourteen, way too many times.
I've watched Game five versus the Rockets three to one,
chance to close it on the road. I've watched that
game way too many times, Like what if we close
it out? Yeah? I get a bad case of what
other what if? With the Clippers. So you're not alone? Man,

(56:09):
You're not alone.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Oh can't live like that.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Gotta keep pushing into a domas on the way. It's
gonna be the best day ever on October twenty third,
Clippers taking all the Phoenixes to open things up. I
want to see Jamal Christopher there. Jamal, I know you
got fifty k followers on Instagram at Jamal Christopher. Is
there anywhere else you want people to find you? I

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mentioned your music on Spotify. I was listening to some
of that earlier. I was thinking about the parties over
two or three hours over. Just give everybody your your
outlets where to find you.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
You know this, this the party's over, and then what if?
And you know this is pretty? This is a down man.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I didn't mean to get happy with it here.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I didn't mean to No, it's crazy. I appreciate that
you listen to me listening to my music. I don't
really even I'm not really even active when it comes
to music anymore. I haven't done that in a while.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
You should be bad. I was great in your versus.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
You talked about Mike VIVI handle.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
I used to be such a Mike Didby fan. I
used to be such a Mike Dibby fan. I wanted
them to win. I don't mean to bring this up
for you. I know in terms of what is this
could be probably tough. But like O two lives with
me a lot. I wanted Mike Dibby to do it
so bad. As much of a Kobe fan as I was,
I wanted Mike Dibby to do it.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
He had a shot in Game seven on the near
side baseline short corner that would have won it before
it went into overtime. That I think about a lot.
People don't think about that shot, you know. I talk
about Game six and the screw drop with the Kings
in that game and the Lakers game twenty seven free
throws in the fourth quarter a lot. But they still

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have their opportunities and that I've spent a good part
of my life on that series.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Let's just say I can understand. I think about the
Paijia airball. There's a page airball.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I think about how people forget Paisia wasn't supposed to
play in that series.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
He was coming back from an ankle enter.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I think about how if he didn't play, with how
good Hito was playing, Oh, they might have won the series.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Keito was great. Paigea probably should have never played.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I think he ended up shooting like the last three
games when he came back in Game five.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta give you gotta get credit
to the Lakers too, Kobe and for a reason, but
they definitely weren't the better team that year.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
They weren't the better team that year, but that's thing
they hear not there. Yeah you can, you can. Uh yeah,
I don't really have many other places, uh to find me.
On Twitter, it's at jam Christopher uh j A m
c R I S t O p A t R Instagram,
Jamal Christopher ja AOVR is sto phdr And Yeah, nowadays

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it's just a lot of just like me living my
life and people seem to enjoy it and enjoy my takes.
Some people follow me because they hate my takes, which
is a weird thing, but I'll take some pay follows
absolutely absolutely bring it on. Man.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
You know well, I love your analysis. I always have.
I remember you.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
We got to know each other with you defending me
from someone coming after.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Me on EDGs.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
This is probably like six years ago or something like
that now, but you had my back with the situation. Yeah,
it's been it's been a little bit. It's been a
little bit. Maybe it was twenty eighteen somewhere.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
In that area.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
It was early in my time with the Clippers. But
you are you are a basketball compass for me.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I look towards you for insight, information, for reliably honest
and objective takes.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
That is Jamal Christopher to me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Man, that's uh, that means a lot, man, because I
share the same sentiments as you do. Someone that's passionate
about the team, but like passionate about the sport in general.
So like you know, I look for a healthy dialogue
when it comes to talk about basketball or the Clippers.
So I don't even remember defending you, but I probably

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did because I actually rock with you. I used to.
It's crazy, I used to. I know, I know. I
always supported you when you went back and forth with coach.
Whenever you go back and forth with coach, you be
sonning that man, and ye drink I will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I love Ricky G. Ricky G is the OG. Yeah
I died for that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Yeah, shout out to Ricky G. But yeah, no, I
I don't remember actually defending you whatever you're referring to,
but it sounds about right because I actually do rock
with you the long way pause and you know you're
You're a great guy. You do great work. You have
been for years and yeah, man, genuine people connect with that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Let's just say it has something to do with someone
accusing me of being racist because I don't hire African
American people as if I'm running a company.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I don't run a company.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I don't know what he was coming after before, and
you were like, dude, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
What that you know? That sounds like some typical Twitter stuff.
And you know, I said this a while ago when
I first got on Twitter. I had to say to myself, like,
you know, if you make the choice to get on Twitter,
and especially if you make the choice to get on
NBA Twitter, You're gonna get some stuff coming at you
all from all ankles. So you know, it's just part

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of the game and lets you know you're doing something right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Sometimes you just got to take a deep breath, hit
that mute, hit that block, and keep moving, keep pushing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Some time with us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
This has been a joy here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Of course, I had to have have you on early
with this new YouTube series going on on Clippers Talk.
We'll do this again soon once we get some action,
once we get some basketball going. But I appreciate your
perspective on the Bruno Mars concert where the Clippers headed
to and of course.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Giving us that verse out loud audibly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
That's crazy, that's kind of crazy that I did that.
But no, thank you for having me on. Please have
me on the game anytime I'm down. Yeah, you just
say the word. Man, I already know where this thing
is going to go for you. So I feel honored
to be to be part of the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
And by the way, I only asked you about the
mc miller situation because I want to trust that it
was you and not Justin Wilson. You guys are fooling
me like the Morris twins. Now, I didn't only have
the inside information on mac miller, No, I just I
still couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I was like, I don't know. I just talked to
Jamal and just start to Justin.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
They're identical twins. What the hell of us say? Hey? Man?
Like I like I said, it's You're not the first one.
There was this thing going on on Twitter for a
while that people thought that I was doing a thing
where I would retweet myself or tweet myself. They thought
I was running my Twitter and La Clippers film. And

(01:03:18):
then b Seemen tweeted a picture out of me, him
and my brother and that kind of put it into everything.
But yeah, that for the longest people then really I
said it on Twitter for a while, like yeah, like
that's my brother, and only the people that knew knew
me in real life understood what I was saying. But

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like you know, a lot of people on Twitter their
troths man, and so you can tell them one thing
they don't care about that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
It's like some people needed to see Buckethead with less
Claypool in the same place at the same time to
make sure they're not the same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Uh, we got that figured out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
We got that sorted out now, and just be in
an open invite next week, my friend, if you want
to come on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I just had your brother on here, but uh, tomorrow
here are Clippers Talk. I'm gonna hit him up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Dime Dropper and I are doing a home and home
so I'll come on with him on Lockdown for the
first half of the episode. Second half, he's coming on
with me here on Clippers Talk. I know Jamal just
joined Dime Dropper recently. It was a great episode on
Locked on Clippers, But that is a future episode coming
up on Wednesday tomorrow here on Clippers Talk for Jamal Christopher.

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I'm Adam Oslin. This has been another Clippers Talk show
for you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Love y'all, Talk to you later.