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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Kalee joins Bennett from most prequested live worldwide with Romania.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's been a minute, man, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm great? You can't come play.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I was so much better after talking to you. You
have that effect on people, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Congrats on this sincere album. Man, I've been playing a
NonStop im Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's the closest thing you're going to get to a
therapy appointment, you know what I mean. It's deep.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It'll take you there early will. Yes, that's awesome to hear.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's just a special album. I feel like there's no skips.
I can just listen to this all the way through
and it's like an experience.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, it's just close through.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Take take me through this album, because you know, I
know how important this album is to you, how personal
and vulnerable, and the way you describe it, it's like
you're you're going back to square one almost describe this
process and kind of like where your head was at.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah. I feel like one thing that I really value
a lot about my earlier music is the emotional impact
that it had on people. Where although I was a teenager,
people of all ages were empathizing with me, and they
all felt connected. And it's something about that core of
vulnerability that gets a little cloudy when you're doing things
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that you normally wouldn't have done and you're traveling to
all these different places, you have all this pressure on
your shoulders. For me with this album, like this album
has to feel the most no pressure or the least
amount of pressure that I felt creatively because I had
to refine that joy. I had to find joy, I
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had to have fun, and melancholy is where my voice
lends itself. So it's something that I leaned right in, like,
all right, if we're gonna get deep, We're gonna get deep.
And I've talked to so many fans over the years
and heard so many stories. I heard so many impressions
of what my music left on them. So for me,
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I was like, it's only right. I feel like people
are asking for this, so I'm finally ready to do it.
And that's how Sincere came to life.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I love that. Did it feel like a job to
you before this album? Did it feel like it was
work and you were it creatively there? Or is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Or I would say pre pandemic, it was a lot
of work. It was a lot of work. Twenty nineteen
was a year for me. Yeah I'm getting thrown left
and right, and I'm the type of person that I
rise up to the occasion. So I'm like, I'm loving
all of this work, but there wasn't enough life to
live to continue telling stories. And I think that's what
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I like about being creative. It's empathizing with people who
understand me, understand how I feel. But I didn't know
how I felt, and I took a year of not
writing anything one year, didn't write any not one song
that year. But when the pandemic happened and I was
thrown into this state like we all were, it really
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sparked something into me creatively, like Okay, well what are
you going to use to cope with all of these
things going on in the world. And music is my gift,
and so I utilized that. I found connected to myself
as an artist, as a musician, and up until it's
like it's like high school, right. I started off as
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a freshman finding that love, and I ended on this
senior project where I'm like, okay, cool, like put this out,
let's do it. And for me, I'm the type of
person like what's next. Now, it's next?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Awesome, that's amazing. Was it like riding a bike? Like
we're writing songs again? Like did it just come out
after a year of not writing? Did it just spew
out of you? Almost?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Or I feel like the year that I took not
writing was because I started to compare myself melodically to
I would say a lot of the songs that I
was hearing. Maybe it was lack of confidence, I wanted
to do different things, or it was also one of
those things where you've lived in this space so long
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you're like, Okay, it's time to find a new home
to live in. I feel like I'm in this space
creatively for a while, and I want to find the
next steps. And I give myself grace as an artist.
I appreciate every era of myself as an artist. But
I feel like through this album it opened the door
to so many possibilities where I'm like, Okay, the sky's
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the limit of where I can go. Just excited about
it all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I mean, like there's so many different chapters of your life.
I mean, you're twenty six now, I mean you were
seventeen when we first started talking. Like, what, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, it's crazy how fast time goes by, which makes
me want to appreciate the moment that I'm living in
even more, where I'm like, I gotta take this moment
for what it is and work my hardest while I
have some work in me. I gotta keep going, I
gotta keep being creative, and I got to keep having fun.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And let's talk about this piece of work that you
have out sincere Man. This is a very special project.
I know I have my personal favorites. Breathe, I love Breathe.
Thank you so good. I love adore you. I love
everything we do. It's all good. It's all good, is yeah? Yeah,
those are just a few of my favorites. Is there
a song? I know it's probably tough because like they're
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your children, right, but is there a song that you're
most proud of? They couldn't wait for your listeners to
hear your family?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, I would say Decline, Yeah, yeah, love Decline. I
had a really big moment with Decline where I recorded
the song and I lived with it for a little bit.
I knew that it was good immediately, but I went
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to South Africa, Okay, and I sat on this balcony.
It was crazy, honest, because I'm like, wow, I'm in
South Africa on a valcon but I'm sitting on this
balcony and I'm playing Decline and something clicked where I'm
like this song, Like, I'm just so thankful for writing
this song. It just it struck a chord with me
where it just even just shows me what I'm capable
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of pulling out of myself, Like, Oh, I really got
this raw, I really got this this vulnerable. And so
I love Decline so much and Sincere the title track,
I love that so much. I mean the raw emotion
and the way that that's saying It will be a
feeling that I'll never forget. So I love that song.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Isn't amazing this far in and you still can surprise
yourself when you write a song, isn't that great?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I always search for that. I'm always trying to step
outside the box and push myself as it creative. I'm
just trying to get better, just get better over time
and have fun while doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'm curious what song did you write first for the album?
Was it Sincerely? What song kind of set the tone
for the project?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Do Okay? Dose? Was the longest song that stood the
testament of time. It lasts. It lasted every battle because
I will never forget the mood that that song set.
It's dark, it's mysterious, and I feel like the album
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has those moments where it's it's melancholic, but it's not
overwhelmingly dark. It's like darkness with like a little hint
of light. And I think that that song, to me,
it's like the center point of the entire album.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I was saying, like, there's no skips, it's this journey
that you take us on. And I'm kind of curious,
what are those albums for you that are that are
no skips. You just put on and you're just vibing
for that full hour. Whatever the case is.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
One album that I've been listening to on repeat has
to be the latest album by Magdalena Bay. I love
that album so much, It's so great. It's an incredible album. Also,
any album by Empire at the Son that can just
listen to just and coast any album. It's one of
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my biggest inspirations in this industry. So I would say
though those two artists in particular, really timeless music that lasts.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
To me, it's super special when you find those albums
because it's such a single driven industry, you know what
I mean. So when you find those that piece of
work where you can just right spend that hour and
like you're just in a different planet, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So I love being brought into someone's story. Yes, this
is what we're doing, and this is what we're experiencing.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And you know, from someone who just has a way
with words and telling a story, is there a lyric
that comes to mind that you know made you feel
a certain way. I mean, they all made you feel
a certain way, but that one that kind of stands
out to you on my project, on your project, Yeah
that like, yeah, I can't wait to get this off
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and out. And you know what I.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Mean, Uh, tell me what I mean to you. My
fingertips are black and blue. I'm holding onto your heart,
but it's cold and now I'm frozen. Something about that lyric.
I'm like, Okay, this is deep, this is raw, this
is this is love, And that is a lyric. If
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anyone were to ask me, what's a lyric that stands
out that one? I see that one every time I
close my eyes, I see that amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, that's a good eye. Yeah, I was hoping you'd
say that. Oh man, I'm curious because you were kind
of teasing little something something on Instagram saying that there
is more to come this year, and I'm looking at
the calendar in the years it's winding down, tour, a
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deluxe album. What are we teasing over here?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I've been I've been working really hard in the studio,
So I would just say more work, more creative work
that hopefully I can create so much that I have
a few that I'm like, let me just sprinkle in
the air before the year is done. So I would
say working hard enough where I feel pleased enough to
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let some of the songs that I've been holding for
the past few years go, I.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Love this, I love a little khead sprinkles.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We'll see. I'm working really hard.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So how many songs would you say that you wrote altogether?
I mean, sixteen songs made the album.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I would say there's like fifty strong songs that I
could honestly be comfortable with coming out into the world.
That happened, wow, over the past three to four years. Yeah,
so tons of music, tons of music. So the music
maybe some side projects here or there maybe something. I mean,
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that's the thing about being creative, to go where the
music takes you. And I'm pretty sure the music one
day will be screaming let me out.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And we're ready for it. Bring it on, come on.
I love asking this question the song you wish you wrote?
Is there a song that's come out recently that's given
you some inspiration?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
A song that I can really appreciate has to be. Oh,
there's so many. I mean, I love as it was
by Harry Styles. I think that's an incredible song. I
think that that would be so much fun to sing.
I love how upbeat it is. I love the energy
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that it brings. I love that song so much and
spend one of my favorites over the past street years.
So that will probably be one of those songs. I'm like,
I wish I would have wrote a hook like that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It's one of those songs that doesn't get old. Like
I've heard that song a million times and still like
hearing it for the first.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Time and I could still listen to it so good.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Well you got a couple of those too, man, you
got you got a bunch in the bag for sure. Uh,
this album is full of it. Uh, it's healing. You've
never sounded better, honestly.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So much.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Just congratulations, and man, I can't wait to hear some
some sprinkles.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh my god, I can't wait for you to hear.
I appreciate your words. Thank you so much, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, it's always great catching up. Like I said, I
feel like my anxiety has been reduced now that I've
talked to you.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I've done my job done.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, you're you're just the best man. Uh, it's so
great checking in with you, and congrats and uh and
we'll check in sooner, right, Thank you so much, absolutely
all the best, my friend,