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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's holiday time. Let's spread holiday joy with comedians. Sam Talent.
He grew up in Colorado and moved to Detroit. If
you catch Sam stand up, you'll fall ill from laughter.
Sam Talent is my guest on the Brett Sonders podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I have done so much radio in my life. This
is a sincere pleasure because this was the radio station.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That was on in my parents' car growing up. It
was huge.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This is the first place I ever heard Tonic was
on KBCO. Remember Lemon Parade?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Of course, the Lemon Parade is a single. If you
could only see.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The Way She Loves Me, maybe you would understand. That
was the first album I bought. My dad was very
nervous in music.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, I grew up in Detroit, Detroit.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I know we're gonna get to that, okay, but I'll
never forget the day my dad found my brother's and
my copy of The Dead Kennedy's out Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, and he was not happy. My dad was the
other way.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
When I would try and like be loud by playing
along to Green Day on my drums in my room,
he would come up and slip a Buzzcox album under
the door. So I think you'd like this little more, buddy,
a little bit more nutrition on this bone.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's quite a dad in the Buzzy's the manand oh
they were a great band.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
When I bought that Tonic album, my dad, who had
been listening to nothing but Zappa B sides, was like, oh, buddy,
this isn't it. You have an encyclopediccknowledge of all things
rocky and or rolls. Very sad, No, it's not. It's
good to have an area of expertise. You devoted your
life to a thing and you're revered for it. Sam talent,
Thank you, Sam. You grew up here in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I grew up in Elizabeth, Colorado. The high planes.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Now your comedy to me, Sam, does not reflect the
signs that I see when I'm in Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, no, well again, my mom was out there just
you know, wanting to get even more band books into
the library, and it was very difficult for her coming
from Cleveland in.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
The sixties to Elizabeth, Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It is a lovely community, though it's very pretty and hilly,
and I'm sure you get quite the winter there. Oh,
the aesthetics, sir, marvelous. This is interesting to me. Sam,
I grew up in Detroit. Uh huh, my whole life
wanting to come here.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I watched Morcan Mindy when I was a little kidder.
I'm going to live in Colorado someday.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, you watched it three Ninjas. You were like, that's
the place for me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And you grew up here, huh, and you dreamed of
moving to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Uh yeah, Detroit, France, Yeah, Destois.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
No, my wife's from there. Yeah. What neighborhood she's from Dearbornon, Dearborn. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was a down River rats.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Parents live in Trenton, which is just about fifteen minutes
down the road there down Telegraph.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, my mother in law would have a lot of
nasty things to say about that.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, but at least you're not from Taylor, right.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I grew up in Taylor. Oh no, I went to
Break Junior High. I went to Eureka Heights Elementary School.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You grew up in Taylor. I'm from Taylor.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I lived in Taylor until I was fourteen.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, you don't have any visible gills. Yeah. My mother
in law calls them the downriver mutants.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, we were downriver rats, okay, sure, And I guess
down to the core I still have. You also lived
for a while, and I find this fascinating. In an
anarchist compound.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I did, I lived in two.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I lived in one in upstate New York called Goblin House,
where people would sign their ren checks and blood and
write hypocrite on.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
The memo line. Yeah, and I was up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
There because they had an old practice space that me
and my buddy could just jam in at any time. So, like,
my politics were not really as ardent as theirs. And
they would call me a sellout because I would not
eat all the rotten, dumpstered meat that they would find
behind the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Really do that.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
They would go find the meat that was tossed. We
did that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean that was kind of my job in the
commune was to secure food. And it was a lot
of like bread that you could use to as a
hockey puck and yeah, yeah, just like eating chicken out
of the trash. I mean, I don't believe in, you know, capitalism,
but I don't need to eat ash chicken.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What did you learn from that experience that fascinates me.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I learned to be very aware of bedbugs. That was
my main takeaway.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, don't share your sleeping bags with young women whose
names are precious gems.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And that was a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
If there's a sapphire and she wants you to come
over to her part of the squad, you know, maybe
leave your undies on.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Still look for bed bugs when you travel because I do.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Oh dude, Yeah, I mean especially when I'm in when
I'm abroad, because you'll stay at these hotels and they'll
be like, next door to that hotel, there's a big circus.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Tent on it, and you're like, what's going on over there,
and they're like, well, they are being fulmigated, but don't worry.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
We were fumigated three days ago. You're clean of the bugs. Yeah.
I really fear bedbugs.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But the great thing about overseas and bed bugs is
they have like a lovely Welsh accent.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, And you can't understand when the bugs talk to you.
You're just charmed and nodding.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Another thing I like about you that I learned. In
addition to your very funny comedy again comedy works Tonight,
Friday and Saturday downtown Denver is some of the other
bands that have influenced you I read Lightning Bolt was
one of my favorite bands. And this band, if you're
not familiar, dear listener, with Lightning Bolt, they really are
a lightning Bolt.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I don't think that they're going to fit into kbco's
rotation because I think people would crash their cars. But yeah,
Lightning Bolt was My dad was a hipster, as I've
alluded to, and he had Spin magazine and Lightning What
was on the cover Spin magazine when I was in
high school and I immediately went to find what this
band sounded like and burnt through not one but two
laptop laptops on LimeWire trying to find their music.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, and Lightning Bolt is very seminal for me.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And listen to this The Minute Man deep boone in
The Minute Man.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh yeah, I mean giant bumper sticker tattoos all over
my body of Minute Men lyrics.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, bands do you have on your body?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I have against me? I have the Minutemen.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I have a bunch of Simpsons tattoos as well.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's about it. Well, yeah, that's quite a commitment to
a band. I mean the Mini Men, wee Jamaicano.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's my whole thing, My entire career is built on
touring in punk bands, So you put out a special
because that's just a flyer for the merch, and then
the shows or the merch. It's very simple when you
break it down to its root causes.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
How did you find comedy growing up in Elizabeth, which
is about an hour or so east of here, pretty rural. Again,
I think it's a lovely place, but this was twenty
years ago, so yeah, we weren't super plugged into the
Internet or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'll tell you where I found comedy, Sinbad at Comedy
Works on New Year's Eve. They had the three shows,
and the early one was an all ages show. And
I went down there and I saw Sinbad, and I
saw Christopher Kidd Reid was the feature, and Billy D Williams,
the piano comic, was the host. I don't know if
that's his name. And my mom took me down there
(06:54):
and it rewired my brain. And it's a lot of
the same ways that like hearing lightning Bolt and extreme
music were like for synapses connecting my thirteen year old brain.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Seeing Sinbad just melted me. He didn't do a joke.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
He was up there just talking about like napkins and stuff,
and I was like, because my dad and my mom
were cool, we'd watch SNL. But then you see a
guy live just like without any kind of plan, and
you're like, oh what Yeah, so stand up was a
big part of my life. And then the Comedy Central
half hours, like before cable became you know, a vestige
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
That was huge.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So did you get a chance to thank Sinbad?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I've never thanked Sinbad? No, yeah, I do, and he
went to du I think too. And I know you
have a huge part of the Michigan diaspora. They all
they all conglomerate here at KBCO. How many pretentious words
can I use before nine am? Oh no, your words
are totally welcome in this and for this demographic, I
feel like I can use my vocabulary.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, dude, this is this is really exciting.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
When you talk about life. Yeah, on stage, you're very
raw in your emotion, and I mean that is compliment.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
There isn't anything that scares you off from discussing.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Has there ever been a topic that you did it
on stage and you decided, eh, maybe this wasn't the
best course of action in terms of content.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, for sure, because I am surround My wife's a doctor,
so I've been surrounded by very high achieving and smart
women for a long time. So feedback from them has
been valuable in you know, being like, well, when you
say that fifty percent of the room is mad at you,
do you really want that fight? So yeah, there's definitely
(08:34):
things that you don't want to bum anyone out right.
If you come to my shows, I want you to
not think for ninety minutes and get your money's worth.
So I'm also part of the comedy work system, where like,
if you're not saying something funny every ten seconds, you're
failing at your job.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So I've been much more.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't know, I fly the flag of just trying
to be funny without trying to make anyone think too much.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't care if people think I'm smart on stage.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You're pretty smart, yeah, but that's not like the point
I'm not up there. You know, Like I love Greg Proops,
but you watch Greg Proops sometimes and you're like, oh,
you just wanted people to know that you knew about that.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
There's like not anything funny in what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You're just kind of like doing one of these peering
over your sunglasses and winking.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I wanted to ask you, Yeah, this phrase called anti comedy,
be sure I've seen it to describe you. And when
I think about that genre, that category, I think about
Tim Heidecker, about Neil Hamburgh, Sure Turkington, all these people
who I really love. And I really hate that phrase
anti comedy.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I think it's a lazy label that's applied to comedy
that doesn't just follow the A to B two C
set up punchline tag situation.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So is all.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I don't even like all comedy either, though, Well it's
condescending too, cause I think all comedy just used to
mean comedy that didn't happen in comedy clubs, and I
came up in all comedy. You know, going to do
New Talent nighted comedy works was like the goal. But
then doing the Squire Lounge, doing the Grolics as shows
like those were what was? That's where you like, you
know met girls? You know those idiots, Oh for sure. Yeah,
(10:02):
I've known them since I was nineteen. I wrote a
letter to them when they were still Risk Deep Productions
and I said, hey, I'm going to Metro. I'm in
a comedy class here. I really admire your guys as
ethos and aesthetic. I'd love to be involved. I've done
a couple of open mics, and then Adam and Ben
Cronberg told me later that they had that letter on
one of the refrigerators.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
By the way of the three members of the graphics
only to know the meaning of the word ethos, Yeah
for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I won't say which one if, but one of them
has a tattooed on his neck, So it's okay.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Sam Talent Comedy Works, Larimer Square tonight, Friday and Saturday.
Don't miss this guy. He's hilarious. He's been on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And now we don't let that dissuade you listener, And
now he's been on this show.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, so it's complete one eighty Yeah in your career.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, I wish you all the best. You're a very
funny man.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Thank you, and it's really it's an honor to be here. Sincerely,
I'm Brett.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I love you for listening. I'll see you next time.