PMP Industry Insiders

PMP Industry Insiders

The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.

Episodes

June 26, 2025 41 mins
In this episode, Dan and Donnie tap into their experiences as owners and managers to share their thoughts on the importance of effective leadership and how to be a good leader. Tune in for their perspectives on what it takes to positively transform your company culture through leadership in the pest and lawn industry.   Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services  ...
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In this episode, Coalmarch's Janelle Lucas digs into the top marketing missteps made by pest and lawn companies. From ignoring local SEO to under-investing in branding, she uncovers what successful operators are doing differently. 

 

Guest: Janelle Lucas, Team Lead, Client Success, Coalmarch   Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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This week Seth Watson joins Dan and Donnie to share what it takes to successfully incorporate virtual assistants into pest control operations. As the owner of Arete Pest Control and Focus Virtual Assistants, Seth shares first-hand lessons learned, common pitfalls and details about costs, communication strategies, legalities and more.

 

Guest: Seth Watson, Owner, Arete Pest Control and Focus Virtual Assistants   Hosts:  Dan Gordo...
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PestSure's Todd Burke joins Dan and Donnie this week to give an update on the commercial insurance market. He covers various challenges, including auto insurance difficulties, the rise in private equity-funded claims and adequate umbrella coverage limits, and provides recommendations for pest business owners regarding insurance coverage. 

Guest: Todd Burke, COO, PestSure Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialist...
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🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping May!

This month, we’re diving into insights from Episodes 224-228

✅ Episode Highlights: Ep. 224: Triangle & Voice for Pest: How this amazing tech can flag customers that could be ready to turn away.

Ep. 225: Are You Recession Ready? What to do when the slow times come around.

Ep. 226: Cybersecurity! If you're handling customer credit cards, it is important to protect them AND protect y...

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This week, Dan and Donnie debate the ideal branch size for a pest control company. Is it better to operate several smaller branches or one multi-million location? They explore the pros and cons of smaller offices, larger locations and a hybrid model with satellites. 

Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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Tom Jarzynka, VP of Technical & Training for Massey Services, joins Dan and Donnie this week to share his journey in the pest control industry and talk about credentials. As a member of NPMA's QualityPro board, Tom shares what it takes to become accredited, how it helps pest control companies in practical terms and what's coming down the pike for the program.

 

Guest: Tom Jarzynka, Vice President of Technical & Training, Ma...
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This week Dan and Donnie discuss the prevalence of cyber attacks on small businesses. They cover common threats (phishing scams, ransomware attacks and data breaches), first-hand experiences and real-world case studies. Finally, they share several strategies for protecting your company from cyber attacks to avoid costly consequences.

 

Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Servi...
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This week, Dan and Donnie discuss the potential for a lasting economic slowdown and the impact it would have on pest control and lawn care businesses, including customer price sensitivity and increased cancels. They also share strategies for increasing revenue, reducing costs and handling marketing during uncertain times.

Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping April!

This month, we’re diving into insights from Episodes 220 to 223,

✅ Episode Highlights: Ep. 220: Accurate Reports - Are you squeezing enough value out of your CRM data?

Ep. 221: Tariffs! - Lots of chemicals used in the pest control industry come from other countries. What is the impact on these with all of the tariff talk?

Ep. 222: AI CSRs - Ka Tsu from Avoca AI explains more about A...

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Voice for Pest's Director of Business Development Raymond Kidwell joins the show to discuss the recent implementation of a new phone system at Donnie's company, Triangle Home Services. They cover Donnie's initial concerns, highlight the benefits of the system, including enhanced efficiency and reporting features, and discuss the AI capabilities Donnie is most excited about.   Guest: Raymond Kidwell, Director of Business Developmen...
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April 24, 2025 38 mins

This week, Dan and Donnie continue the family business series with Mikey & Mandy Nolen, the father-daughter team who operate Nozzle Nolen in West Palm Beach, Fla. They cover how the company is transitioning to a new generation of leadership, including Mickey's philosophy of "getting out of the way without going away."

 

Guests: Mickey Nolen & Mandy Nolen, Nozzle Nolen Pest Solutions   Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers &a...
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What if you had a CSR who could answer after-hours calls, schedule service and respond to questions 24/7/365? On this episode, Ka Tsu of Avoca AI joins Dan and Donnie to discuss an AI call center and customer service platform. Tune in to hear a Q&A about the benefits and challenges of implementing AI CSRs in pest control.

 

Guest: Ka Tsu, Sales & Partnership Lead, Avoca AI   Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&...
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In this early-release episode, Dan and Donnie react to the Trump administration's sweeping tariff announcement. They cover potential consequences for the pest and lawn industries, share best practices for weathering an economic jolt and offer advice for owners experiencing uncertainty.    Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping March!

 

This month, we’re diving into insights from Episodes 216 to 219, covering everything from Agent AI to tax strategies, growth challenges, and flipping business models for success!

 

Ep. 216: Agent AI Playbook for Service Business Owners — Discover how Agent AI works autonomously and integrates with your systems for true automation.

Ep. 217: Taxes 101 — Dan and Donnie share tax tips and...

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In this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss what you need to do month in and month out to create accurate financial statements so you can take meaningful action in your business. Donnie offers a glimpse into the numbers he uses to run Triangle Pest Control, and Dan shares an accountant's perspective and tools he recommends. 

 

Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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In this episode, Dan and Donnie dig into the challenges of managing growth and keeping your team on the same page as your pest or lawn company scales and becomes more complicated. They share their experiences and strategies for overcoming growth-related obstacles, and why having a strong vision is essential. 

 

Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Bryan Clayton, CEO and co-founder of GreenPal, an online marketplace that connects homeowners with lawn mowing professionals. He walks through his journey from mowing lawns to scaling and selling a $10 million landscaping company to founding an "Uber for lawn care," and he shares advice for growing as an entrepreneur along the way.    Guest: Bryan Clayton, CEO and Co-Founder, GreenPal  ...
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Understanding taxes empowers you to make informed decisions and ultimately saves you money. But many successful business people don't really understand their taxes. In this episode, Dan and Donnie delve into tax-related topics, including individual taxes, capital gains, business income, deductions and the executive order on tax credits.      Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelto...
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What if you could eliminate all your repetitive administrative tasks? In this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss the potential for leveraging "agent AI" technology in your pest control business. Donnie also walks through a software demo and shares how to begin creating an AI personal assistant so you can make better use of your time.

 

Hosts:  Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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