April 9, 2025 • 36 mins
The Dead Daisies are back with "Lookin’ For Trouble," an "unexpected" blues album. Guitarist extraordinaire Doug Aldrich joins to discuss creating the blues with John Corabi, friendship with Richard Fortus, and what David Coverdale told him after receiving an invite to audition for Guns N' Roses.
"Lookin’ For Trouble" available May 30th.
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Theme music: Mike Squires of Loaded
"Lookin’ For Trouble" available May 30th.
More info:
https://thedeaddaisies.com/
https://www.instagram.com/douglasaldrichguitar
Our website: afdpod.com
Theme music: Mike Squires of Loaded
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and two. My name is Branda. Welcome to the
podcast for the first time. Mister Douglas or Doug, I
guess Aldrich. I'm so used to saying Doug, but I
like Douglas. I look down at your zoom. I'm like, no,
what do you prefer Douglas? Before we get going, which
what do you prefer?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I always, anytime asked me to still something out, I
always put the full name just in case, you know,
like check my license. You know you gotta you're gonna
come on Brandi's podcast, Brando r Brandos podcast. He's gonna
check your ID. So it's a better match and I'm
listeners to it. But now I go by whatever you know, yo,
(01:16):
I go.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right anyway, Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You got it, No no problem. And just to kind
of we were talking off the air about what I
do off the air and working for radio. I have
to always change my zoom from Brandon to brand Oh,
so I have a bit of a duality problem. So
sometimes you never know you want to ask, so Doug.
I appreciate yo, I appreciate you coming on today, especially
(01:42):
to talk about this blues album. And I had the
privilege of having John Crabbie on like half a year
ago before this came out looking for trouble, uh not
on how before.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We get anywhere else?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know this is you were working on this with
the That's record, right, Like that happen normally, right, No, it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Was just it was a weird thing because we were
going we went down to to Muscle Shoals and.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
We went, we went.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We picked that studio because it was kind of a famous,
out of the way place that would have history to
it that we would you know, maybe be inspired to write,
and we were, but we also got inspired to jam
and that led to a song after song and that
you know, in the end, we we had I guess
(02:33):
we probably had eight songs or so, and then we
picked two and jammed them really quick. And you know,
we didn't really know that we were going to make
it an album until a few months later or six
months later whatever. Marty Fredericks and our producer said, you know,
we should just I don't know if you guys want
to do this, but it's it's a really really cool
(02:56):
representation of the moments that we were.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
There, because, yeah, that's I was wondering where, how does
that happen? Where just cos come being a jam or
a lot of you are blues based, especially John, you
to becoming an album, to becoming a thing, to doing
the marketing, to doing these things and doing interviews. You know,
that's a whole other task, a whole other thing to
(03:19):
bite off rather than just jamming and recording for them.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
It was pretty it was pretty innocent because we went
down there to write and do pre production for a
rock record that we put out last year. And but
that studio has got so much history that they do
tours and they have people come every day. They would
do a tour of some one day it might be
(03:42):
six people, the next day it could be actually sixty people.
You know, it was just dependent on the day. But
they around every day around five or six, around dinner time,
they would say, hey, we're gonna we've got a crew
coming in.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
We would be in the control room out of the way.
They would they'd open the door in the control and
show people, but otherwise we were just out of the way.
They were in the main room talking about the history
of the studio and little by little hearing all these
stories about Retha Franklin.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And you know.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Wilson Pickett and Duayne Allman and Edna James and all
these people that went through the swampers started there and
then they made their own studio and we just we'd
be we'd get inspired and like we put on some
music and have a glass of winer, you know, Karbbie
(04:33):
might break out a glass of jamison or something, and yeah, yeah,
it was just it was innocent. We went out and
started jamming through stuff just for fun.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
We listened to.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Born under the bat Born under a Bad Sign and
go out and Janet, you know, and all of a sudden,
you know, Marty one day just said, well, that day
we were jamming one of those songs. I don't remember
which one, but it was something similar close to the original,
and we didn't take it too far. It might have
(05:07):
been Born under a batsigner, it might have been going
down one of those two. And he goes, hey, come in,
and we were like in the middle of jamming, having funny.
He played he recorded it and played it for us
and it was like, whoa, that's cool, and then it
led to, you know, well, hey what if we I
(05:28):
used to love you know, the thriller's gone okay, well
let's let's let's go jam it. And then somebody Krabi said, hey,
let's instead of doing it like jamming it like babe,
this is just for the hell of it, let's just
try it in differents. Do it in six 's eight
a kind of like since I've been loving you or
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whatever how that would be, and that's how we'd jam
it out. And with that particular song, I had a
little part that just came to me, this little descending part,
and I said, hey, what if we put that, made
that guitar solo and put that in the song. And
Marty goes, no, no, not save that. That's a cool thing.
(06:09):
Put it on the end that way. You know, let's
just have it. You know, it could be a song
one day. And we just did that every day. And
some songs once we started to getting into it, we
went really deep on certain songs like Black Betty we
totally revamped that, or Crosswords too, like also, all those
(06:33):
songs got such great versions already, it didn't make sense
to it didn't really make sense to do it the
same way unless we're trying to learn something here, push
ourselves a little.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Bit, and so we we kind of messed with each
one a little bit, made it our own.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, that's cool because even though of course Black Betty,
you know, it's a you know, these these are classic songs.
They've been done before. So to do it your way,
to do it by the musicians that you guys are,
I think is special.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
To do it unique. So yeah, why not.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's the thing that Marty said. He said, he goes, look,
make it your own.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Why don't worry about it. He goes forget ram He
was like, forget ram Jam. And also Pat Travers I
think did it the same way as ram Jam Black Baby.
But then we he goes, hey, let's listen to the original,
and I was like, isn't the original Ramjam? He goes, nah,
man go back and as this guy led belly and
(07:37):
it was just a vocal that was if you search
it up, it's just a vocal.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's like a.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Song that he just somebody recorded him singing. I don't
even know how they did it, but it's like it
sounded like a work song where you're working in the
fields or whatever, you know, and it was like, oh shit.
And then somebody just pointed out to me that our
version of it, which is very different than ramjam obviously,
and it's not it's just a vocal melody, but the
(08:05):
way that we treated it was kind of like almost
like an easy top type of thing, like a Jesus
just Chicago.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, I didn't I didn't even think.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Of it because I was just trying to come up
with a way to play. And I put this little
offset on my finger so it was like can and
it was a fingerpicking thing. Then then Krabby goes, hey,
let's try that. Let's do it on the doughbro. And
(08:35):
this was one of those days we knew that we
were going to have something. We didn't know if it
would be for a movie or if it would be
if it would be an album, or didn't really think
about it too much. We were just thinking about, like,
let's just get this done so we can have it,
you know. And then at the end of the song
we just did a modulation and went to this big
(08:56):
jam thing. And so it's cool, man, we got a
chance to really put our stamp on some of these songs.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It sounds like like the Blues that.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's from my understanding what I love about the blues
at its core, you know that there's history there that's
putting your own spin on it. It comes organic, it's
about something. It's the that's what I miss about, or
at least I didn't with blues. It's such an old tradition.
It's like, how do you make it fresh and new?
(09:26):
And that's when you're finding a new way to do it.
I think that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
So how are you also being a being a band
not known for for doing that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's like, it's a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Of a taboo, like, Okay, what are you guys going
to bring to the table? What do you Why do
you think we need to hear you guys doing that song?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And that's a little pressure.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So what we weren't We weren't thinking it was going
to be released in the beginning, so we weren't as
worried about it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
When it's when somebody goes, hey, it's we should put
this thing out and making an album, I'm like, oh, that's.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I was nervous about it, to be honest with you,
because like I got friends that are really ampicionados about
the blues and and like I was afraid, you know,
but but like we so far, you know, thank god,
we got a good a good response from people. And
(10:20):
even Joe Bonamassa put Crossroads, our version of Crossroads on
one of his playlists. So that was I was, like,
I thanked him. I sent him a text and he
didn't hit me back.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He just read it.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And usually, you know, unless I ask him a question,
he won't hit me back to just read it. But
I did it on purpose because I didn't want to
ask him, like what'd you think, because I was afraid
maybe he put it on as an accident, like maybe
he didn't know like he put it on there. So
I just said, hey, Joe, by the way, it's Doug,
thanks so much for adding our song on your playlist,
(10:53):
and you know, hope everything's going great on tour. Blah,
talk talk to you later. I didn't ask a question,
so he didn't he wasn't going to hit you back.
But I don't know if he meant to put it
on there. But thank you, Joe.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So I got on a Spotify playlist you're talking about, right, yeah,
something like that. That's so that's so cool, you know. Yeah,
And then the fact that someone is accomplished as you,
and it's refreshing and I enjoy talking to people like
you that you know, still have this anxiety or pressure.
I don't want to label this anxiety for you, because
I don't want to project my anxiety, but just just
(11:29):
being unsure, like is this or seeking not just some
sort of approval, Like it's just it's very interesting that
you're just not there's not an arrogance there. Knowing that
you are extremely talented, You've played with some incredible big acts,
you are a big act, and you can say this
is me, but you're still kind of like thinking about
other people's opinions. I think is very humbling, and I
(11:52):
think it's a very refreshing trait.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well, I definitely I need to be humble because there's
you know, I mean, I constantly am reminded that, you know,
I don't know half of what I want to know.
I mean, and you see people, you know, nowadays with
the internet, you can see people doing stuff in real time,
(12:16):
what they're doing, and I just get blown away. And
there are some there are some kids, and there were
some kids even back back when I first heard Johnny
lang Sing, I was like, Wow, this kid has got
a voice. He sounds like he's been drinking whiskey his
whole life. He's only fifteen or whatever it was, you
(12:36):
know how when he first came out, and it's the
same way. Now there's these guys playing playing blues music
like legit, like it's real.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And so, I you know, I'm just yes.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I definitely was nervous a couple of times, and I
with the Thrillers going, I was really nervous because I
love the original version so much.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I just wanted to jam on the original version. I
just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Have us have some fun and play it. And then
Karabi fucking Karabe comes.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Up, Oh yeah, we should try it like this.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Okay, Well, now now I'm out of my comfort zone
of like at listen, I knew what I was trying
to do before. Now you got me like thinking, I'm
supposed to try and play Babe King, but do it
like Jimmy Page would do it. And I can't even
play like Jimmy Page exactly. So like I'm fucked. But
we got through the song at the end of the night,
(13:32):
and and I was and Marty goes, hey, sounds really good, guys,
that's cool. That's a great idea, John blah blah blah.
Let's everybody learn it, listen to it. I'll send you
an MP three and and we'll hit it fresh in
the morning or tomorrow night when we got time, because
we were there actually to be writing, and I got
(13:58):
I got back the next I listened to it that night.
I listened to it in the morning and I was like, oh, man,
I don't I don't even know how to begin to try.
And everything I did for this four minutes or five minutes,
whatever it.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Was was, I wasn't even thinking.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I was just playing like it didn't matter if I
made a mistake or whatever. It was happened to be
a pretty good performance, you know. And I'm like, Marty,
I I don't know if I can do it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't know what. I can't even look. I don't
even know if I could learn it, let alone do
it better.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I mean, it's just going to sound for it, like
he and I really was afraid. I did not want
to play that song again. I was like, I don't know, man,
that's about as good as I can do. And He's like, well,
it sounds great. We should just use that one. I'm
like really and I did. We did try and play
(14:50):
through it, but as I said, it got worse every
time because I was thinking too much. And the beginning
one I wasn't thinking. I was just like I was.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
We had a glass of wine and it was the
end of the day and it was like there was
no pressure.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It was just for fun.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Are you like me? Then you overthink things?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Oh yeah, now, I will tell you, and you probably
can do this too. Like if you overthink something and
you put you compartmentalize it and then you get your
head wrapped around it where you relax a little bit
and take some breaths, then you realize, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's not as hard as I thought. I could do this.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
And eventually you get back to full circle where you
can actually own it and then kind of improvise off
of that and it becomes fresh again. But that whole
process of getting to that point it gets worse and
worse and worse, and you and you know, I've had
many times being in the studio a Prouser would go.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, well let's put a solo on this. I put
a solo down in Prouser grat Well, that's.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Great, good, let's move on. I'm like, yeah, but I'm
just getting started. I think I got something right. It's okay,
but I mean, I know I can do better. Well,
that one's great. I'm like, let me just get a
shot at it, you know, do it again. It's not
as good. I told you, Doug, that was that one
was perfect. You're just making it, you know, why fuck
(16:16):
with it? It's good as it was. I'm like, because
that part, I like that part. I like, but that
that part is in. Let me try again and do
something where I like, see that works. The guy would
be like the perdus would be like, yeah, but it
doesn't have the vibe. Man, listen to this. This is
the first one you did right off the cuff. It's
got the vibe. I'm like, you're right, but let me
(16:39):
let me.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Work on, Doug. Why why do that?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But I could if I was given the time, I
could get that new idea to be fresh again and
be and sound legit, you know. But sometimes you just
don't get that opportunity. So this was definitely a whole
thing of these songs where I was definitely nervous on the.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Edge, on the razor's edge, and the.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Beauty of it is now it's too late and I
can't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You know, what's the What have you learned then from
recording this? Is it that just to kind of go
with your gut instinct and not overthink things. And also
just on the blues end as well, not just the
musical and not just the decide the out of the
blues end.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I definitely there.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
You know, there's I know, I know some of the
classic blues licks and stuff, and I threw a few
of things in there, but I basically, I guess the
biggest lesson is is that you know, it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
About perfection, it's about the vibe.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So if there's a mistake or something, or maybe one
of those blues licks I was just talking about, maybe
if I didn't play it the way in my head
that it should be played, I hit it. I hit
the notes, but it's not I'm hearing it like I
know what I how I could hit that blues lick
if I played it correctly, if I played it right
(18:13):
with the fire that I got in my head in
my heart. It's not on the record like that. But
you know what, nobody's going to know. They hear the
lick and go Okay, that works or whatever. That's what
Marty said. You're like, I love it. It's it sounds
and I'm like, I know I can play that better.
It's like, well, I really think that the beauty of this,
(18:35):
of what we're doing here is to not we're not
making a record, We're just making we're just having fun.
So let's not like overthink it. Let's let it be
what it is. And so that was that's a snapshot
in time. But I guess the main takeaway is is, yeah,
don't overthink it, play from the heart, have fun and
and sometimes the ship that you that you come up
(18:58):
with right on the spot is just fine. You know,
it doesn't need to be overthought.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's what I try to do.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And the other parallel for me, because I have no
musical talent, that's why I'm in radio is with these interviews.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
That's musical talent still being in radio as a whole.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
As a whole, sure, I'm tone deaf, let' us call
it that way. I'm tone deaf. So is yeah, I
guess when I started doing interviews and I'm talking like
coud and stuff, you write down questions things like that
you know, and obviously I still prepare, but I don't
write them down because I'm gonna be focused on those
questions and lose the organic conversation, the things in the moment.
(19:39):
And sometimes yeah, after an interview's over, I'm like, damn it,
I wish I asked this question. Yeah, Now I would
have thrown off a whole conversation, organic conversation. It would
have went in a different way. It would have been
a different chat. So I'm like, you know what.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It is, what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
If I went back and try to fix it or
whatever or force that question in, it would not have
been the same results.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's very Uh, that's a very astute way to approach
your your thing because.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The good part is that you can ask it next
time if you want.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But yeah, hopefully that's why I try to build a
reputation in a relationship. Next time, I'll get you. So
that's why I never asked those hot button questions because
I don't want to just you want and done. You know,
I'd rather get a if I forget something and you'll
be happy to come back on. Also, I'm good like this,
and this will compliment both of us, because my listeners
(20:38):
were excited that you're coming on, and I'm very fortunate.
One of my listeners is somebody that you know. Oh
he goes by the name of Richard Fordyce. Richard is
one of the great Richard. Yeah, he loves you too, man,
he says, Oh Man, I let him know what you're
(20:58):
coming on, says oh Man. Dog is one of my
favorite players. I've learned so much from that guy. Such
a monster. He was the first guy I thought of
to replace me in Daisies, and I'm so happy he
did it. He's taken the band to a new level.
Please send him my regards the question, but I'm just
I want to hear your response to that, because yeah,
(21:19):
he recommended you the Daisy's.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
He you know, it made sense because we're all friends,
you know, in the end, it made sense. But Richard
was the first one to bring me up, I guess,
and I was. I had been, you know, basically, I
was in your position. A couple of years later, I
(21:43):
had a son that was four years old, and I
was going through a breakup and I needed to get
off the road. And that's when I left Whitesnake and
I wanted to be with my boy. You know, there's
nothing like It's not for everybody, but for those of
us who have kids, it's it's the best.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And I was off the road.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I did do a little bit of work with Glenn
Hughes during a period of twenty fifteen, but Richard got
injured in a motorcycle accident and said, hey, why don't
you get Doug to fill in for me? And I
couldn't because I was I had committed to doing just
two shows with Glenn, but it was it was in Japan,
(22:23):
and I didn't. I just didn't want to let him down,
you know. I didn't want to say I was committed
and then say, oh, I got an offer to go
to the Dead Daisies filling for Richard for a month.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So I turned it down. And then later they called.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Me back and I go, well, what about Richard, you know,
and they said, well, Richard's the one that recommended you.
And I can't say anything but Richard's and Dizzier going
back to GNR and we're going to make a new
record and new start and kind of change up the
sound a little bit. Since we're I can have Dizzy.
We're just going to go a little more guitar when
I anted or whatever. But Richard is he's a sweet person.
(23:03):
He's just a good kind person. There's nobody more kind
that I've met in this business. In Richard Forts he's
a monster. I say before I met him, before I
knew him, I saw him player with gn R and
there were three guys on stage playing guitar that night,
and Richard was the guy that I walked away going,
holy shit, this guy is he's from another planet what
(23:27):
he's doing.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And he's very humble, you know, but he is a
monster player.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
There's no doubt he's doing what they want him to do,
and they give him a little spot I think with
G and R. But he's he's definitely you know, who
knows what he's going to do in the future. His
guy's a limit for that guy. And another thing about
he's very you know. To back up the thing about
him being kind is I talked to Richard about gear
(23:59):
all the time and he'd be like, you know, he
said something like, I'm I found an old guitar I
really want and I'm going to sell some stuff and
get it. I go, wow, man, I really want one
of those two you know, I've been looking, and he'd
call me out of the blue and go, hey, there's
I just was at a store and they got a guitar.
(24:20):
You might be interested, and I'm thinking about it too,
And I'd go into the store and they'd be like,
Richard's kind of got first dibbs.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But if he doesn't want it, then maybe, you know,
if you want to take a crack.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
And that particular guitar, Richard ended up getting it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He and I was.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I was like bummed about it, but at the same time,
I was happy for him, and because it was really cool.
He wasn't for sure what he was going to if
he was going to get it. And then but out
of that contact that Richard and I made, and there's
been a few contacts with people with peer that Richard
introduced me to them. Leo Scala, an amazing guitar our
(25:00):
builder luthier that works with Richard, also made a guitar
for me that's just incredible. But down the road, I
got a call from that guy from the music store
and he goes hey, Doug, and I go, hey, what's
going on. It was a place called Chicago Music Exchange,
and he goes Richard told us that you're still looking
(25:22):
for guitar and we got this one here that you
might be interested in. And I was like, is Richard,
Does Richard want it? And they said no, Richard doesn't
know about this one yet. He said that you know
if you you know, he told us a while ago,
you're looking for one, so if you want to.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Check it out. I go, yeah, let me check it out.
What is it? They told me, and I was like,
I want it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I bought it and Richard wrote me and he goes, congratulations.
I'm glad you got it, because if you didn't take it,
I was going to get it anyway. He's a great dude.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I love him. I love that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So this is a fan question gen r related from
Facebook from John Were you ever considered?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Speaking of it?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You may have heard that Facebook A little comment a
little dan there.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Were you ever considered for a guitar spot during the
Chinese democracy sessions?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I wasn't only by one guy, but because he called
me and Dizzy called me. I had known Dizzy because
Dizzy and I had a mutual friend and Dizzy played
on a solo record that I did way back in
the nineties and he played beautifully on it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was so cool for him. But he called me and.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Said, hey, we're looking for a guy to play like
the slash stuff. And we've got Richard Fords and we've
got the guy from Robin.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Rob from ninety Times.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, and he goes looking for someone to do the
you know, the more rock stuff. And I was literally
sitting next to Dave Recovery. We're just starting to work
on the first White SNK record that we wrote together.
And I go dizzy, as I really appreciate it, and
I'm grateful, but I'm I'm right in the middle of
(27:12):
doing an album with White Snake and I co wrote it,
I'm co producing it. And he goes, okay, okay, man,
are you sure, And I go, I mean, and I
put I think covered I heard.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
He's like Doug telling me you're busy, you know or whatever.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
But yeah, that's that's as close as it came. Dizzy
thought of me that I should come audition and be sure.
I think, you know, actual would like you or whatever.
And he's pretty picky about the people he's around, and
but I, you know, I was super super excited about
what I was doing and and Uh, you never know
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where it might have led to. But I think that
you know they got they got.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Is it only got bumblefoot?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Oh so right, they had bumblefoot. They had bumblefoot. That's
when they got buble.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
The've had a lot of members withs.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, I forget, but but I remember Richard. They mentioned
Richard was in the band, but and uh and Dizzy
so and I forget who's playing bass?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But Anywayinton, I mean I know all the members, like
it's the timeline. Sometimes it's hard to keep up. No,
that that's cool, And the fact that it happened right
next to the David Coverdale who And I love the
impersonation because I've been fortunate enough to have had him
on the podcast a couple of times, and I got
a kick out of when he would say, Darling, Darling,
(28:40):
you know, uh, if you don't mind, can you? It
was the last time you chat with him? Like, how's
he doing?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Is there anything he's He's good.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I mean, he's always busy doing projects. He's doing a
lot of repackaging stuff. You just put out a live
white sink thing that's got a lot of stuff of
us together. Last I chatted with him, we always chat
by text, so that the last time I actually talked
to him was sometime last year. And it's funny, you know,
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he's he's larger than life. It's he's wherever it is
that you're with David, he is larger than life. And
so you don't have to talk too much. He'll do
a lot. He'll do the majority of the talking. I
remember in this room we were we were we wrote
both partially at his house and partially here at my house.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
We wrote Could to Be a Bad Album and Forever
More Album together.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And he would be he'd come to my house for
a week and he would take over.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Man. It was like he would like the whole house
would be full of his stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
In the closet that the food what do you call.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It the clo is it where the food is?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Pantry?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, the pantry was filled up with all this organic
food and all this stuff. It's like, yes, dogs, I
feel very comfortable here. And I'm like, I bet you
do you know? Next thing you want to do is
have my wife stay with you or.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Whatever he called you, Douglass, to go back to the beginning.
He called you douglass. See that's a very English thing.
To say.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So. Yeah, well you call.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Everybody by their full name always Edward or you know,
whatever your name was. If your name was Gene, he'd
be calling you Eugene for sure. But no, he's great,
he's great, he has it. I think, you know, you
never say never with anything, and because bands always come back.
(30:43):
But I think he's he's enjoying his retirement at this moment,
you know.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Okay, okay, right ever, but you know happy, he's happy
and that's the most important thing. And just enjoying himself.
That's the number one of the music is always going
to live on forever regardless. But we're here for you.
And one more fan comment, I want to get in
for you. Aaron Williamson. He said he met you a
few months ago in Glasgow at the Guitar Guitar masterclass. Okay,
(31:12):
talking to you about a nice study about a fusion album.
Could you ask a few plans on releasing it? Should
have asked him at the time and thank him for
the guitar pick he gave me that night.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh that's cool. I don't have any plans to do.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I mean, basically, since twenty nineteen, I've been one hundred
percent days ease focused on when Glenn joined the band
for a couple of years, I wanted to make sure
he was comfortable. He was very Yeah, it was like
a new situation and being in a band situation. So
me and him both decided let's just push everything else off.
(31:50):
So I don't have any plans to release anything, but
I do have some some music kicking around at some
point in the work on it. But but that it's
kind of rare that I do a guitar clinic these days.
And I did something with Blackstar where we put out
(32:13):
an amplifier together.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
The Dead Daisies uses a full.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Black Star back line, and I've been a Marshall guy
in my whole life, but I used this Black Star
stuff on a tour and I was blown away, and
they said.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Let's make an app together. So we did, and I
was doing.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
A clinic to talk about it and up in Glasgow
and it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Man a great store up there.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Glasgow is one of the for those people who have
never been there, it's a rock and roll town, just
like New York or Philly or Chicago or wherever you know, Cleveland, London, Paris.
Glasgow is one of them, and it was great. Fans
(33:01):
always been going there ever since deal, and yeah, so
it was cool. I send my best to them, and
thanks for the question. I don't have any plan to
release anything at this moment because basically I'm busy.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But maybe one day, you never know.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
But right now, we're sticking to the Looking for Trouble
promo schedule and we're you know, we're really it's a
pleasant surprise because we didn't plan for it to be
a thing and it is right on.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So I said Looking for Trouble, I may have gotten
ahead of myself. It's out May thirtieth, that's when it's
officially out.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm losing track of time. I have to remember.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
April twenty six is when my son, Harrison Rex aka
Baby Brownstone turns two, So that's the big date. So
so am I going to be able to see the
dead Daisy's on tour? Ma's gonna be able to take
them to show?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
You never know, Well, at some point, yes, but I
don't know what's happening for later this year, but we
would love to.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I mean just we've been talking about maybe we'll do.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Some some just a few choice nights of just strictly
focusing on this album, you know, and do like a
blues night, you know, or something. Maybe we'll get some
some other artists to other blues artists to do a
night with us or something, but.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Or maybe you know, yeah, who knows, but I was
gonna say, maybe we'll do it.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Maybe one day we'll get to do a gig with
Joe Bonamas, so that would be pretty cool. But yeah,
you know, I would love to. And I'm super excited
for you and your son. It's the greatest thing having
a boy. My boy is now fifteen, and like it's
just gotten cooler every all the time. So you've got
(34:52):
so many things to look forward to, and uh, it's
gonna have a lot of fun, you know, from what
you tell me. He's he he's met some pretty big
stars already. He's only two, I know.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And his hair next time I'll show him. It's almost
as long as yours. I was, even though I'm bald now.
I mean, you know when you see my beard, but
I was blonde hair, blue eyed as a baby. So
that's kind of what he is. He looks like a
little I gave birth to kirkle Bean.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I keep birth. It feels like that sometimes.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah, it's a joint parenting situation. I mean, I'm sure
you've changed the diapers as much as.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh yeah, well, I'm not gonna take anything away from her,
but certainly I've been pooped on and pete on and
bitten and all those things that happen.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So just thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And yeah, I think I may have said before, just
to correct myself, I don't know why that the album's
out May thirtieth, because I get sneak previews and sometimes
I'm just like, oh, the album is out, So I
don't know if I actually definitely said that earlier. So
of course, looking for trouble, look for that May thirtieth. Doug,
thank you so much for your time, and we hopefully
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do this again soon.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Thanks Brandon, I appreciate it. Man awesome to talk to
you and grateful for what you're doing. And thanks to
all your listeners, and thanks Richard for you know, getting
me in the dead daisies.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's awesome right on.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So that does it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion?
When will you see the next one? In the words of.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know I as
soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Thanks to the lame ass security, I'm going home.
You know what.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and two. My name is Branda. Welcome to the
podcast for the first time. Mister Douglas or Doug, I
guess Aldrich. I'm so used to saying Doug, but I
like Douglas. I look down at your zoom. I'm like, no,
what do you prefer Douglas? Before we get going, which
what do you prefer?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I always, anytime asked me to still something out, I
always put the full name just in case, you know,
like check my license. You know you gotta you're gonna
come on Brandi's podcast, Brando r Brandos podcast. He's gonna
check your ID. So it's a better match and I'm
listeners to it. But now I go by whatever you know, yo,
(01:16):
I go.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right anyway, Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You got it, No no problem. And just to kind
of we were talking off the air about what I
do off the air and working for radio. I have
to always change my zoom from Brandon to brand Oh,
so I have a bit of a duality problem. So
sometimes you never know you want to ask, so Doug.
I appreciate yo, I appreciate you coming on today, especially
(01:42):
to talk about this blues album. And I had the
privilege of having John Crabbie on like half a year
ago before this came out looking for trouble, uh not
on how before.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We get anywhere else?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know this is you were working on this with
the That's record, right, Like that happen normally, right, No, it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Was just it was a weird thing because we were
going we went down to to Muscle Shoals and.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
We went, we went.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We picked that studio because it was kind of a famous,
out of the way place that would have history to
it that we would you know, maybe be inspired to write,
and we were, but we also got inspired to jam
and that led to a song after song and that
you know, in the end, we we had I guess
(02:33):
we probably had eight songs or so, and then we
picked two and jammed them really quick. And you know,
we didn't really know that we were going to make
it an album until a few months later or six
months later whatever. Marty Fredericks and our producer said, you know,
we should just I don't know if you guys want
to do this, but it's it's a really really cool
(02:56):
representation of the moments that we were.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
There, because, yeah, that's I was wondering where, how does
that happen? Where just cos come being a jam or
a lot of you are blues based, especially John, you
to becoming an album, to becoming a thing, to doing
the marketing, to doing these things and doing interviews. You know,
that's a whole other task, a whole other thing to
(03:19):
bite off rather than just jamming and recording for them.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
It was pretty it was pretty innocent because we went
down there to write and do pre production for a
rock record that we put out last year. And but
that studio has got so much history that they do
tours and they have people come every day. They would
do a tour of some one day it might be
(03:42):
six people, the next day it could be actually sixty people.
You know, it was just dependent on the day. But
they around every day around five or six, around dinner time,
they would say, hey, we're gonna we've got a crew
coming in.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
We would be in the control room out of the way.
They would they'd open the door in the control and
show people, but otherwise we were just out of the way.
They were in the main room talking about the history
of the studio and little by little hearing all these
stories about Retha Franklin.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And you know.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Wilson Pickett and Duayne Allman and Edna James and all
these people that went through the swampers started there and
then they made their own studio and we just we'd
be we'd get inspired and like we put on some
music and have a glass of winer, you know, Karbbie
(04:33):
might break out a glass of jamison or something, and yeah, yeah,
it was just it was innocent. We went out and
started jamming through stuff just for fun.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
We listened to.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Born under the bat Born under a Bad Sign and
go out and Janet, you know, and all of a sudden,
you know, Marty one day just said, well, that day
we were jamming one of those songs. I don't remember
which one, but it was something similar close to the original,
and we didn't take it too far. It might have
(05:07):
been Born under a batsigner, it might have been going
down one of those two. And he goes, hey, come in,
and we were like in the middle of jamming, having funny.
He played he recorded it and played it for us
and it was like, whoa, that's cool, and then it
led to, you know, well, hey what if we I
(05:28):
used to love you know, the thriller's gone okay, well
let's let's let's go jam it. And then somebody Krabi said, hey,
let's instead of doing it like jamming it like babe,
this is just for the hell of it, let's just
try it in differents. Do it in six 's eight
a kind of like since I've been loving you or
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whatever how that would be, and that's how we'd jam
it out. And with that particular song, I had a
little part that just came to me, this little descending part,
and I said, hey, what if we put that, made
that guitar solo and put that in the song. And
Marty goes, no, no, not save that. That's a cool thing.
(06:09):
Put it on the end that way. You know, let's
just have it. You know, it could be a song
one day. And we just did that every day. And
some songs once we started to getting into it, we
went really deep on certain songs like Black Betty we
totally revamped that, or Crosswords too, like also, all those
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songs got such great versions already, it didn't make sense
to it didn't really make sense to do it the
same way unless we're trying to learn something here, push
ourselves a little.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Bit, and so we we kind of messed with each
one a little bit, made it our own.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, that's cool because even though of course Black Betty,
you know, it's a you know, these these are classic songs.
They've been done before. So to do it your way,
to do it by the musicians that you guys are,
I think is special.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
To do it unique. So yeah, why not.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's the thing that Marty said. He said, he goes, look,
make it your own.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Why don't worry about it. He goes forget ram He
was like, forget ram Jam. And also Pat Travers I
think did it the same way as ram Jam Black Baby.
But then we he goes, hey, let's listen to the original,
and I was like, isn't the original Ramjam? He goes, nah,
man go back and as this guy led belly and
(07:37):
it was just a vocal that was if you search
it up, it's just a vocal.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's like a.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Song that he just somebody recorded him singing. I don't
even know how they did it, but it's like it
sounded like a work song where you're working in the
fields or whatever, you know, and it was like, oh shit.
And then somebody just pointed out to me that our
version of it, which is very different than ramjam obviously,
and it's not it's just a vocal melody, but the
(08:05):
way that we treated it was kind of like almost
like an easy top type of thing, like a Jesus
just Chicago.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, I didn't I didn't even think.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Of it because I was just trying to come up
with a way to play. And I put this little
offset on my finger so it was like can and
it was a fingerpicking thing. Then then Krabby goes, hey,
let's try that. Let's do it on the doughbro. And
(08:35):
this was one of those days we knew that we
were going to have something. We didn't know if it
would be for a movie or if it would be
if it would be an album, or didn't really think
about it too much. We were just thinking about, like,
let's just get this done so we can have it,
you know. And then at the end of the song
we just did a modulation and went to this big
(08:56):
jam thing. And so it's cool, man, we got a
chance to really put our stamp on some of these songs.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It sounds like like the Blues that.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's from my understanding what I love about the blues
at its core, you know that there's history there that's
putting your own spin on it. It comes organic, it's
about something. It's the that's what I miss about, or
at least I didn't with blues. It's such an old tradition.
It's like, how do you make it fresh and new?
(09:26):
And that's when you're finding a new way to do it.
I think that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
So how are you also being a being a band
not known for for doing that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's like, it's a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Of a taboo, like, Okay, what are you guys going
to bring to the table? What do you Why do
you think we need to hear you guys doing that song?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And that's a little pressure.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So what we weren't We weren't thinking it was going
to be released in the beginning, so we weren't as
worried about it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
When it's when somebody goes, hey, it's we should put
this thing out and making an album, I'm like, oh, that's.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I was nervous about it, to be honest with you,
because like I got friends that are really ampicionados about
the blues and and like I was afraid, you know,
but but like we so far, you know, thank god,
we got a good a good response from people. And
(10:20):
even Joe Bonamassa put Crossroads, our version of Crossroads on
one of his playlists. So that was I was, like,
I thanked him. I sent him a text and he
didn't hit me back.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He just read it.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And usually, you know, unless I ask him a question,
he won't hit me back to just read it. But
I did it on purpose because I didn't want to
ask him, like what'd you think, because I was afraid
maybe he put it on as an accident, like maybe
he didn't know like he put it on there. So
I just said, hey, Joe, by the way, it's Doug,
thanks so much for adding our song on your playlist,
(10:53):
and you know, hope everything's going great on tour. Blah,
talk talk to you later. I didn't ask a question,
so he didn't he wasn't going to hit you back.
But I don't know if he meant to put it
on there. But thank you, Joe.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So I got on a Spotify playlist you're talking about, right, yeah,
something like that. That's so that's so cool, you know. Yeah,
And then the fact that someone is accomplished as you,
and it's refreshing and I enjoy talking to people like
you that you know, still have this anxiety or pressure.
I don't want to label this anxiety for you, because
I don't want to project my anxiety, but just just
(11:29):
being unsure, like is this or seeking not just some
sort of approval, Like it's just it's very interesting that
you're just not there's not an arrogance there. Knowing that
you are extremely talented, You've played with some incredible big acts,
you are a big act, and you can say this
is me, but you're still kind of like thinking about
other people's opinions. I think is very humbling, and I
(11:52):
think it's a very refreshing trait.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well, I definitely I need to be humble because there's
you know, I mean, I constantly am reminded that, you know,
I don't know half of what I want to know.
I mean, and you see people, you know, nowadays with
the internet, you can see people doing stuff in real time,
(12:16):
what they're doing, and I just get blown away. And
there are some there are some kids, and there were
some kids even back back when I first heard Johnny
lang Sing, I was like, Wow, this kid has got
a voice. He sounds like he's been drinking whiskey his
whole life. He's only fifteen or whatever it was, you
(12:36):
know how when he first came out, and it's the
same way. Now there's these guys playing playing blues music
like legit, like it's real.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And so, I you know, I'm just yes.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I definitely was nervous a couple of times, and I
with the Thrillers going, I was really nervous because I
love the original version so much.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I just wanted to jam on the original version. I
just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Have us have some fun and play it. And then
Karabi fucking Karabe comes.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Up, Oh yeah, we should try it like this.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Okay, Well, now now I'm out of my comfort zone
of like at listen, I knew what I was trying
to do before. Now you got me like thinking, I'm
supposed to try and play Babe King, but do it
like Jimmy Page would do it. And I can't even
play like Jimmy Page exactly. So like I'm fucked. But
we got through the song at the end of the night,
(13:32):
and and I was and Marty goes, hey, sounds really good, guys,
that's cool. That's a great idea, John blah blah blah.
Let's everybody learn it, listen to it. I'll send you
an MP three and and we'll hit it fresh in
the morning or tomorrow night when we got time, because
we were there actually to be writing, and I got
(13:58):
I got back the next I listened to it that night.
I listened to it in the morning and I was like, oh, man,
I don't I don't even know how to begin to try.
And everything I did for this four minutes or five minutes,
whatever it.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Was was, I wasn't even thinking.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I was just playing like it didn't matter if I
made a mistake or whatever. It was happened to be
a pretty good performance, you know. And I'm like, Marty,
I I don't know if I can do it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't know what. I can't even look. I don't
even know if I could learn it, let alone do
it better.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I mean, it's just going to sound for it, like
he and I really was afraid. I did not want
to play that song again. I was like, I don't know, man,
that's about as good as I can do. And He's like, well,
it sounds great. We should just use that one. I'm
like really and I did. We did try and play
(14:50):
through it, but as I said, it got worse every
time because I was thinking too much. And the beginning
one I wasn't thinking. I was just like I was.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
We had a glass of wine and it was the
end of the day and it was like there was
no pressure.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It was just for fun.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Are you like me? Then you overthink things?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Oh yeah, now, I will tell you, and you probably
can do this too. Like if you overthink something and
you put you compartmentalize it and then you get your
head wrapped around it where you relax a little bit
and take some breaths, then you realize, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's not as hard as I thought. I could do this.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
And eventually you get back to full circle where you
can actually own it and then kind of improvise off
of that and it becomes fresh again. But that whole
process of getting to that point it gets worse and
worse and worse, and you and you know, I've had
many times being in the studio a Prouser would go.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, well let's put a solo on this. I put
a solo down in Prouser grat Well, that's.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Great, good, let's move on. I'm like, yeah, but I'm
just getting started. I think I got something right. It's okay,
but I mean, I know I can do better. Well,
that one's great. I'm like, let me just get a
shot at it, you know, do it again. It's not
as good. I told you, Doug, that was that one
was perfect. You're just making it, you know, why fuck
(16:16):
with it? It's good as it was. I'm like, because
that part, I like that part. I like, but that
that part is in. Let me try again and do
something where I like, see that works. The guy would
be like the perdus would be like, yeah, but it
doesn't have the vibe. Man, listen to this. This is
the first one you did right off the cuff. It's
got the vibe. I'm like, you're right, but let me
(16:39):
let me.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Work on, Doug. Why why do that?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But I could if I was given the time, I
could get that new idea to be fresh again and
be and sound legit, you know. But sometimes you just
don't get that opportunity. So this was definitely a whole
thing of these songs where I was definitely nervous on the.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Edge, on the razor's edge, and the.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Beauty of it is now it's too late and I
can't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You know, what's the What have you learned then from
recording this? Is it that just to kind of go
with your gut instinct and not overthink things. And also
just on the blues end as well, not just the
musical and not just the decide the out of the
blues end.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I definitely there.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
You know, there's I know, I know some of the
classic blues licks and stuff, and I threw a few
of things in there, but I basically, I guess the
biggest lesson is is that you know, it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
About perfection, it's about the vibe.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So if there's a mistake or something, or maybe one
of those blues licks I was just talking about, maybe
if I didn't play it the way in my head
that it should be played, I hit it. I hit
the notes, but it's not I'm hearing it like I
know what I how I could hit that blues lick
if I played it correctly, if I played it right
(18:13):
with the fire that I got in my head in
my heart. It's not on the record like that. But
you know what, nobody's going to know. They hear the
lick and go Okay, that works or whatever. That's what
Marty said. You're like, I love it. It's it sounds
and I'm like, I know I can play that better.
It's like, well, I really think that the beauty of this,
(18:35):
of what we're doing here is to not we're not
making a record, We're just making we're just having fun.
So let's not like overthink it. Let's let it be
what it is. And so that was that's a snapshot
in time. But I guess the main takeaway is is, yeah,
don't overthink it, play from the heart, have fun and
and sometimes the ship that you that you come up
(18:58):
with right on the spot is just fine. You know,
it doesn't need to be overthought.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's what I try to do.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And the other parallel for me, because I have no
musical talent, that's why I'm in radio is with these interviews.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
That's musical talent still being in radio as a whole.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
As a whole, sure, I'm tone deaf, let' us call
it that way. I'm tone deaf. So is yeah, I
guess when I started doing interviews and I'm talking like
coud and stuff, you write down questions things like that
you know, and obviously I still prepare, but I don't
write them down because I'm gonna be focused on those
questions and lose the organic conversation, the things in the moment.
(19:39):
And sometimes yeah, after an interview's over, I'm like, damn it,
I wish I asked this question. Yeah, Now I would
have thrown off a whole conversation, organic conversation. It would
have went in a different way. It would have been
a different chat. So I'm like, you know what.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It is, what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
If I went back and try to fix it or
whatever or force that question in, it would not have
been the same results.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's very Uh, that's a very astute way to approach
your your thing because.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The good part is that you can ask it next
time if you want.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But yeah, hopefully that's why I try to build a
reputation in a relationship. Next time, I'll get you. So
that's why I never asked those hot button questions because
I don't want to just you want and done. You know,
I'd rather get a if I forget something and you'll
be happy to come back on. Also, I'm good like this,
and this will compliment both of us, because my listeners
(20:38):
were excited that you're coming on, and I'm very fortunate.
One of my listeners is somebody that you know. Oh
he goes by the name of Richard Fordyce. Richard is
one of the great Richard. Yeah, he loves you too, man,
he says, Oh Man, I let him know what you're
(20:58):
coming on, says oh Man. Dog is one of my
favorite players. I've learned so much from that guy. Such
a monster. He was the first guy I thought of
to replace me in Daisies, and I'm so happy he
did it. He's taken the band to a new level.
Please send him my regards the question, but I'm just
I want to hear your response to that, because yeah,
(21:19):
he recommended you the Daisy's.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
He you know, it made sense because we're all friends,
you know, in the end, it made sense. But Richard
was the first one to bring me up, I guess,
and I was. I had been, you know, basically, I
was in your position. A couple of years later, I
(21:43):
had a son that was four years old, and I
was going through a breakup and I needed to get
off the road. And that's when I left Whitesnake and
I wanted to be with my boy. You know, there's
nothing like It's not for everybody, but for those of
us who have kids, it's it's the best.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And I was off the road.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I did do a little bit of work with Glenn
Hughes during a period of twenty fifteen, but Richard got
injured in a motorcycle accident and said, hey, why don't
you get Doug to fill in for me? And I
couldn't because I was I had committed to doing just
two shows with Glenn, but it was it was in Japan,
(22:23):
and I didn't. I just didn't want to let him down,
you know. I didn't want to say I was committed
and then say, oh, I got an offer to go
to the Dead Daisies filling for Richard for a month.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So I turned it down. And then later they called.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Me back and I go, well, what about Richard, you know,
and they said, well, Richard's the one that recommended you.
And I can't say anything but Richard's and Dizzier going
back to GNR and we're going to make a new
record and new start and kind of change up the
sound a little bit. Since we're I can have Dizzy.
We're just going to go a little more guitar when
I anted or whatever. But Richard is he's a sweet person.
(23:03):
He's just a good kind person. There's nobody more kind
that I've met in this business. In Richard Forts he's
a monster. I say before I met him, before I
knew him, I saw him player with gn R and
there were three guys on stage playing guitar that night,
and Richard was the guy that I walked away going,
holy shit, this guy is he's from another planet what
(23:27):
he's doing.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And he's very humble, you know, but he is a
monster player.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
There's no doubt he's doing what they want him to do,
and they give him a little spot I think with
G and R. But he's he's definitely you know, who
knows what he's going to do in the future. His
guy's a limit for that guy. And another thing about
he's very you know. To back up the thing about
him being kind is I talked to Richard about gear
(23:59):
all the time and he'd be like, you know, he
said something like, I'm I found an old guitar I
really want and I'm going to sell some stuff and
get it. I go, wow, man, I really want one
of those two you know, I've been looking, and he'd
call me out of the blue and go, hey, there's
I just was at a store and they got a guitar.
(24:20):
You might be interested, and I'm thinking about it too,
And I'd go into the store and they'd be like,
Richard's kind of got first dibbs.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But if he doesn't want it, then maybe, you know,
if you want to take a crack.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
And that particular guitar, Richard ended up getting it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He and I was.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I was like bummed about it, but at the same time,
I was happy for him, and because it was really cool.
He wasn't for sure what he was going to if
he was going to get it. And then but out
of that contact that Richard and I made, and there's
been a few contacts with people with peer that Richard
introduced me to them. Leo Scala, an amazing guitar our
(25:00):
builder luthier that works with Richard, also made a guitar
for me that's just incredible. But down the road, I
got a call from that guy from the music store
and he goes hey, Doug, and I go, hey, what's
going on. It was a place called Chicago Music Exchange,
and he goes Richard told us that you're still looking
(25:22):
for guitar and we got this one here that you
might be interested in. And I was like, is Richard,
Does Richard want it? And they said no, Richard doesn't
know about this one yet. He said that you know
if you you know, he told us a while ago,
you're looking for one, so if you want to.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Check it out. I go, yeah, let me check it out.
What is it? They told me, and I was like,
I want it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I bought it and Richard wrote me and he goes, congratulations.
I'm glad you got it, because if you didn't take it,
I was going to get it anyway. He's a great dude.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I love him. I love that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So this is a fan question gen r related from
Facebook from John Were you ever considered?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Speaking of it?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You may have heard that Facebook A little comment a
little dan there.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Were you ever considered for a guitar spot during the
Chinese democracy sessions?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I wasn't only by one guy, but because he called
me and Dizzy called me. I had known Dizzy because
Dizzy and I had a mutual friend and Dizzy played
on a solo record that I did way back in
the nineties and he played beautifully on it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was so cool for him. But he called me and.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Said, hey, we're looking for a guy to play like
the slash stuff. And we've got Richard Fords and we've
got the guy from Robin.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Rob from ninety Times.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, and he goes looking for someone to do the
you know, the more rock stuff. And I was literally
sitting next to Dave Recovery. We're just starting to work
on the first White SNK record that we wrote together.
And I go dizzy, as I really appreciate it, and
I'm grateful, but I'm I'm right in the middle of
(27:12):
doing an album with White Snake and I co wrote it,
I'm co producing it. And he goes, okay, okay, man,
are you sure, And I go, I mean, and I
put I think covered I heard.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
He's like Doug telling me you're busy, you know or whatever.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
But yeah, that's that's as close as it came. Dizzy
thought of me that I should come audition and be sure.
I think, you know, actual would like you or whatever.
And he's pretty picky about the people he's around, and
but I, you know, I was super super excited about
what I was doing and and Uh, you never know
(27:50):
where it might have led to. But I think that
you know they got they got.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Is it only got bumblefoot?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Oh so right, they had bumblefoot. They had bumblefoot. That's
when they got buble.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
The've had a lot of members withs.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, I forget, but but I remember Richard. They mentioned
Richard was in the band, but and uh and Dizzy
so and I forget who's playing bass?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But Anywayinton, I mean I know all the members, like
it's the timeline. Sometimes it's hard to keep up. No,
that that's cool, And the fact that it happened right
next to the David Coverdale who And I love the
impersonation because I've been fortunate enough to have had him
on the podcast a couple of times, and I got
a kick out of when he would say, Darling, Darling,
(28:40):
you know, uh, if you don't mind, can you? It
was the last time you chat with him? Like, how's
he doing?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Is there anything he's He's good.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I mean, he's always busy doing projects. He's doing a
lot of repackaging stuff. You just put out a live
white sink thing that's got a lot of stuff of
us together. Last I chatted with him, we always chat
by text, so that the last time I actually talked
to him was sometime last year. And it's funny, you know,
(29:14):
he's he's larger than life. It's he's wherever it is
that you're with David, he is larger than life. And
so you don't have to talk too much. He'll do
a lot. He'll do the majority of the talking. I
remember in this room we were we were we wrote
both partially at his house and partially here at my house.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
We wrote Could to Be a Bad Album and Forever
More Album together.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And he would be he'd come to my house for
a week and he would take over.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Man. It was like he would like the whole house
would be full of his stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
In the closet that the food what do you call.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It the clo is it where the food is?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Pantry?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, the pantry was filled up with all this organic
food and all this stuff. It's like, yes, dogs, I
feel very comfortable here. And I'm like, I bet you
do you know? Next thing you want to do is
have my wife stay with you or.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Whatever he called you, Douglass, to go back to the beginning.
He called you douglass. See that's a very English thing.
To say.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So. Yeah, well you call.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Everybody by their full name always Edward or you know,
whatever your name was. If your name was Gene, he'd
be calling you Eugene for sure. But no, he's great,
he's great, he has it. I think, you know, you
never say never with anything, and because bands always come back.
(30:43):
But I think he's he's enjoying his retirement at this moment,
you know.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Okay, okay, right ever, but you know happy, he's happy
and that's the most important thing. And just enjoying himself.
That's the number one of the music is always going
to live on forever regardless. But we're here for you.
And one more fan comment, I want to get in
for you. Aaron Williamson. He said he met you a
few months ago in Glasgow at the Guitar Guitar masterclass. Okay,
(31:12):
talking to you about a nice study about a fusion album.
Could you ask a few plans on releasing it? Should
have asked him at the time and thank him for
the guitar pick he gave me that night.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh that's cool. I don't have any plans to do.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I mean, basically, since twenty nineteen, I've been one hundred
percent days ease focused on when Glenn joined the band
for a couple of years, I wanted to make sure
he was comfortable. He was very Yeah, it was like
a new situation and being in a band situation. So
me and him both decided let's just push everything else off.
(31:50):
So I don't have any plans to release anything, but
I do have some some music kicking around at some
point in the work on it. But but that it's
kind of rare that I do a guitar clinic these days.
And I did something with Blackstar where we put out
(32:13):
an amplifier together.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
The Dead Daisies uses a full.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Black Star back line, and I've been a Marshall guy
in my whole life, but I used this Black Star
stuff on a tour and I was blown away, and
they said.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Let's make an app together. So we did, and I
was doing.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
A clinic to talk about it and up in Glasgow
and it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Man a great store up there.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Glasgow is one of the for those people who have
never been there, it's a rock and roll town, just
like New York or Philly or Chicago or wherever you know, Cleveland, London, Paris.
Glasgow is one of them, and it was great. Fans
(33:01):
always been going there ever since deal, and yeah, so
it was cool. I send my best to them, and
thanks for the question. I don't have any plan to
release anything at this moment because basically I'm busy.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But maybe one day, you never know.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
But right now, we're sticking to the Looking for Trouble
promo schedule and we're you know, we're really it's a
pleasant surprise because we didn't plan for it to be
a thing and it is right on.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So I said Looking for Trouble, I may have gotten
ahead of myself. It's out May thirtieth, that's when it's
officially out.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm losing track of time. I have to remember.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
April twenty six is when my son, Harrison Rex aka
Baby Brownstone turns two, So that's the big date. So
so am I going to be able to see the
dead Daisy's on tour? Ma's gonna be able to take
them to show?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
You never know, Well, at some point, yes, but I
don't know what's happening for later this year, but we
would love to.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I mean just we've been talking about maybe we'll do.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Some some just a few choice nights of just strictly
focusing on this album, you know, and do like a
blues night, you know, or something. Maybe we'll get some
some other artists to other blues artists to do a
night with us or something, but.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Or maybe you know, yeah, who knows, but I was
gonna say, maybe we'll do it.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Maybe one day we'll get to do a gig with
Joe Bonamas, so that would be pretty cool. But yeah,
you know, I would love to. And I'm super excited
for you and your son. It's the greatest thing having
a boy. My boy is now fifteen, and like it's
just gotten cooler every all the time. So you've got
(34:52):
so many things to look forward to, and uh, it's
gonna have a lot of fun, you know, from what
you tell me. He's he he's met some pretty big
stars already. He's only two, I know.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And his hair next time I'll show him. It's almost
as long as yours. I was, even though I'm bald now.
I mean, you know when you see my beard, but
I was blonde hair, blue eyed as a baby. So
that's kind of what he is. He looks like a
little I gave birth to kirkle Bean.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I keep birth. It feels like that sometimes.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah, it's a joint parenting situation. I mean, I'm sure
you've changed the diapers as much as.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh yeah, well, I'm not gonna take anything away from her,
but certainly I've been pooped on and pete on and
bitten and all those things that happen.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So just thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And yeah, I think I may have said before, just
to correct myself, I don't know why that the album's
out May thirtieth, because I get sneak previews and sometimes
I'm just like, oh, the album is out, So I
don't know if I actually definitely said that earlier. So
of course, looking for trouble, look for that May thirtieth. Doug,
thank you so much for your time, and we hopefully
(36:03):
do this again soon.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Thanks Brandon, I appreciate it. Man awesome to talk to
you and grateful for what you're doing. And thanks to
all your listeners, and thanks Richard for you know, getting
me in the dead daisies.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's awesome right on.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So that does it for this episode of Appetite for Distortion?
When will you see the next one? In the words of.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy, I don't know I as
soon as the word, but you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Thanks to the lame ass security, I'm going home.
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