January 7, 2025 • 40 mins
Perhaps best known as the original voice of Lynch Mob, Oni Logan joins to talk about playing with George Lynch and Dio Disciples, plus hanging out with West Arkeen and how just close he was to joining Slash's Snakepit.
More info:
oniloganofficial.com
facebook.com/OniLoganOfficialPage
Our website: www.afdpod.com
More info:
oniloganofficial.com
facebook.com/OniLoganOfficialPage
Our website: www.afdpod.com
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what, yes is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite four Distortion, Episode number four
hundred and eighty seven. My name is Brando. Welcome to
the podcast, and Happy New Year, mister Ony Logan. How
are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm doing great, Brando, Thanks for having me. Happy twenty
twenty five?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Here we are, here, we are twenty twenty five, and
I could still say Happy New Year? Right it's the sixth.
Is there a cutoff for you when you can stop saying.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh man, happy New Year? As a whole? It's every
day for me just to be just to be still
cruising doing my thing.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, I love that. So we're going to talk
to Odie Logan, the original voice of Lynch Mob, about
so many different things and what's going on today. Where
are you zooming in from? If I may ask, Unless
it's a secret location and you can't divoltge that.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's the Pacific Coast Cali, Okay, else.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Where else to give yet?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, no, Pacific Coast to California.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
You know, I came back about two and a half
years ago. I was living in the Red Rocks in
the desert out in Saint George, Utah, which was which
was great because I love to hike.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, yeah, you know you.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Have all the parks out there, and it was you know,
a great time for me as well.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
But back on the coast where.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I love the weather awesome. Well, I get I got
a kid out there at some point because as I
look outside my window here in Queens, New York, there's
this flake of snow dropping.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Hey, you know, Queens, New York is cool. You know,
my family migrated to Queens, New York. Don't ask me
what part of Queens, New York because it had.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Been so long ago, but I have, I have. You know,
I was very I was just a baby, but I
remember the old.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
The elevator doors that were like the ones that would
just slide through with like a spring, sure and yellow
light in an apartment building back when oh gosh, so
many years ago, but I do remember that from the Queens.
And of course, you know, later in years, I would
visit New York and spend time in Hell's Kitchen like
(02:43):
eighty eight eighty seven and going to parties and.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Queens and stuff like that. But yeah, Queens is cool.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Right on. And depending upon which apartment building you go to,
now those elevators still exists.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I believe it. Man.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Actually a good segue because we were talking off the
air a little bit because we may be surprised by
my my one and a half year old baby Brownstone,
who's napping in the background. But as you're talking about
being a kid, and I like to talking about this
with guests, where did music start for you as a kid,
Because you know, I'm not really cramming guns and roses
(03:21):
down his throat. I mean just maybe a little bit.
My wife was, yeah, just a little bit. But he
you know, we have music playing. He takes music class today. See,
so with all sorts of kind of music and from
different genres, from different cultures. So where was it for you?
Did your parents? Was it because you grew up in
Buenos Aires? Is that is that correct?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No? No, we migrated to Queens.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, because Wikipedia is wrong and I try, how do
I not trust WI? How do I trust Wikipedia? It
says you were born in Buenos Aires, Argenta.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I was born in Buenos Aires, but I was brought
over to the United States when I was eleven months old.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Oh, Queens.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
We were there for about a year and a half
and then my father found a job in Stanford, Connecticut,
and I was living in Stanford, Connecticut until the age
of nine, and then we went south like a lot
of the New York Kinos.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Did back in the days.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Sure, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And yeah, remained in Florida until I was about twenty four,
twenty five, and then I moved to pursue my my
dream of becoming a recording artist and a performer.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So but music started very early for me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I or may have mentioned it in a prior interview
a couple of months ago. You know, it started with
my mom, you know, driving in her car with AM
radio on. We would hear, you know, all the latest
songs that were out, you know, one being you know Harrison,
you know, talking about Harrison, George Harrison, my Sweet Lord,
(04:52):
Laila By Clapped in Badfinger, all these cats.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So I was introduced to music at like five years of.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Age, you know, on the front of my mom's car,
playing the dashboard, and you know, I was off from
there and you know started, you know, I started singing
at a very early age, just to sing because.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
My mom used to sing all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And that would turn into taking up the drums at
the age of ten, and I was quite good at
playing drums there for a few years. My father was
very supportive. My parents, both of them were very supportive
of my musical aspirations, and I left for music started
(05:35):
going to concerts.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know. My first concert was the age.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Of twelve, my Baseball Stadium, Peter Frampton Comes Alive, seventy
thousand people there. You know, I had a seven year
old brothers he's seven years older, and my mom and
dad would say, take them with you, take him with yourself.
I you know, I got to see Errol Smith the
Rocks Tour. I got to see twenty one twelve, Rush,
(06:00):
New Gent back in the day, Mahogany, Rush of God, Sticks,
Grand Illusion Tour, so many and I'm so I'm so
grateful that I was that I was able to see
those bands at that time period in that music. That
music was so special to me, you know, the seventies
music and the classic rock stuff so good. And that's
(06:24):
where you know, my whole thing is from, you know,
coming up from that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay, I love that and especially supportive parents.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, Harrison, my son named after George because I've said before,
you know, it's one thing they have at Guns and
Roses podcast. But if I named my kid Axel, that
might be a step too far. So my wife and
I and our parents, we all love the Beatles and
we've settled on Harrison and we take them to different
classes of actual music classes. But you know, what are
(06:54):
they doing is banging on things and just grabbing toys.
But there's they're surrounded by it. We got a little
toy drum set to show him that the sticks and
the hit. He just knows the hit. He doesn't know
what he's doing yet. But yeah, the concerts. I'm hoping
to take him to some shows because my wife loves
going to shows. This year with head fans. It it
really is. But we'll see where he you know, he's
(07:17):
not even too yet where he grows up to be.
So I'm looking forward to seeing that path and what
I could support him in. Uh So, do you remember
like your first because you talked about your first concert,
you like your first band? Did you know you wanted
to go to the rock and roll because you you
mentioned all of these rock bands. Do you remember like
your first favorite band? And you're like, I kind of
I want to grow up to be that. Do you
(07:38):
remember that absolutely?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You know, Robert Plant, you know what I mean. You know,
I was a zepead kid, you know, and it was
I don't know, they were so different so to me,
so so you know, I mean they evoked a sound
that just you know, for all of us, they instilled
(08:02):
something that forever will It's in the books, right, so,
you know, listening to Plant, Paul Rogers, you know, Rod Stewart,
early Beck Records, Rod Stewart, the.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Great Ronnie James deal.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You know, when I discovered him on LP, when I
had ordered through Columbia House this band Rainbow, you know,
I had no idea what I was going to hear.
But once I put that needle on that groove, that
voice came out and I was just like, who is this?
So you know, and Ronnie, you know, was you know,
(08:41):
so much more than just a great singer.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean, he you know, as far as his vocal ability.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I mean, he could be you know, singing the sweetest
song like something off the Butterfly's Ball movie, which was
done by Roger Glover back in the day, something so
soft and beautiful and pure. He had a very pure voice.
I mean, it was the gods that gave him that voice. So,
you know, these classic rock singers. And when I spoke
to Ronnie when he was still here with us, you know,
(09:10):
he mentioned, you know, yeah, rock Stewart for sure.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know he was into early Beck stuff. You know.
Of course Ronnie was a crooner too as well, but
you know all the classic rock singers. You know. I
got into Joe Lynn Turner too as well.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I used to put on you know, difficult to cure
the album or straight between the eyes.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I would put it on the groove and I would
have my little pa set up and I would sing
to joe Linn Turner.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Man, what a voice, you know, Lou Graham, foreigner boom,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Those classic rock singers is where I.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Came up from those you know, Steve Walsh from Kansas.
You know, I can go on and on about these
great singers when musicians you know, had to really play
their string these you know strings and both list had
to really be able to sing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
So that's my That's where I came up with, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Uh, you know, powerful, powerful voices. And I was lucky
enough to have Lou grahamon last year. Uh, finally getting
inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But
to jump around a bit, yeah to jumper, sorry me
to cut you off, to jump around a bit because
you were talking about Ronnie. Of course, for you to
(10:26):
eventually become a touring member. Oh wait, do we have
our guest here? Do you hear? Did you hear Baby Brownstone?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Baby Brownstone?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Harrison? Harrison, he's waking. Well, yeah, we could have a
bottle and bring him to me. Sure he's gonna have
a nice collection. Uh. He didn't meet lou but he
met Paul Rogers and his wife Cynthia. I had him
on it. It's just so funny to go back. He'st
have a collection of himself talking to rock stars. Uh.
(10:57):
Later on, but he mentioned Ronnie James Dio and of
course you're a touring member of Dio's disciples. How did
that opportunity come about for you to be a kid?
I'm not quite as young as Baby Brownstone, but to
you know, first put on his records here that voice,
then all of a sudden be a member to carry
on his legacy, you know, is there? How did you
(11:21):
look at it? How do you feel like this is
a band?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Am?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I am I paying tribute to Ronnie. I guess I
don't want to fill in your thoughts, but what were
your thoughts when you were first offered that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh well, you know, to me, it was just a
great honor to represent. Hey there, Harrison, little baby Brownstone.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
He's here wearing his part dino sweatshirt that he's got
for Christmas. His middle name is Rex, so everything is dinosaur. Also,
it's all Beatles and dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Sorry, I'll mute. What's that? Oh yeah, bottle of jack
or a bottle of milk? Either one client.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So no to be to be offered the position to
represent Ronnie one of the singers, because there's not just
one singer that could do Wendy.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You know. Of course didn't want just one.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Singer to step in because there's no one singer that
could fill in the shoes. And she didn't want to
uh give that that idea to the fans and to
the audiences who love Ronnie so much that this is
the guy that's going to take over Ronnie James Deal's place. No,
it had to be two singers, and both singers had
(12:37):
to be a little bit different stylistically.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So if you have, you know, you have the Ripper,
you know, doing more of.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
The aggressive side, and I would choose the songs that
were more a little bit more blues bass. So that's
how that synergy worked between Ripper and I. But to
be asked, it was a great honor for me because
we had gone back. I had known the man, you know,
he was partly the reason why I came out to
(13:07):
LA to follow my my aspirations of becoming a recording artist.
He was one of the first major rock stars that
I met too as well, and he gave me his
phone number. He said, when you get to LA, give
me a call. So you know, he was one of
those kind of guys, you know what I mean, a real,
real gentleman.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And you know, of course when we lost.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Him, I left a big, big, great hole for the family,
you know, because we were all friends. I'm friends with
the band, the original band and so forth. And when
they came up with the idea, because they had started
off with Toby and Ripper in the beginning paying Homagetani's
(13:49):
music and then after Toby, they asked me to come aboard,
and I thought it was a great honor. And you know,
those songs that he had written over the years with
you know, with regards to Rainbow Dio, you know, there's
so crafted, well written songs. He was a craftman in
his work. He took it very seriously and they they
(14:12):
they're just so well written.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's just like a Ferrari.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
All you have to do is drive it well. And
so being as a singer, all I had to do
was drive it well. And it takes a lot of preparation.
It takes time to really just get your legs when
you sing that type of material. So, you know, it's
always a challenge for me, you know, especially you know
(14:37):
as you go into your later years, it's not easy
to project like you know, even though Ronnie so you know.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But he was one of the kind, right right right,
you know that. I'm glad you mentioned that because I
was thinking and just as I wanted to get your
opinions as a singer. You're talking about led Zeppelin and
how they're your favorite as a fan and as a singer,
you know, what do you think of just as Robert
Plants still around, Jimmy Page is still around. I know,
(15:07):
you know the reunion has been shot down, but do
you ever think about that as far as hey, these
guys are still around, can't we get one more kick
at the can? Like I guess some people say about
you and George Lynch with Lynch Mob, I mean, do
you have do you have any sort of feelings about like, hey,
let's just leave what's in the past, you know, Shine,
it was this moment. And I know there's two different situations,
(15:29):
so you may have two different answers, But I just
just sometimes I just look at you know, Robert Plants
out there, still doing it, and I'm like, man, what
a chance? What if he could see a version of
led Zeppelin. I don't know. I just think of like
the younger generations, people who didn't get a chance to
see it. It wouldn't be the same, I understand that.
But to see the guy who wrote the songs one
(15:52):
last time with you know, his his axe mate, I
guess think would be special. So I don't I don't know,
do you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You know, my image of led Zeppelin is their youth
and their tenacity and the energy they exuded. It was
a time and place for them, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Jimmy Page, you know, gosh, you know what I mean?
He was he was. You know, he was in there.
You know, they were living in the moment.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know, the whole thing was a whole conceptual just
just you.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Know, it was exuding from them.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I mean they you know, the lore, the whole thing,
the mysticism and everything. So to me, I don't think that,
you know, I'd like to see them get back together.
Of course, maybe write some new music, you know, at
the level of what they had in the past. I
don't see it happening though. I've seen Robert Plant do
(16:51):
you know, with the sensational shape shifters, you know, take
Zeppelin songs and you know, bring them down dynamically so
where he could like feel comfortable in singing, you know
as he's singing today, which reverting back.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
As the singer gets older, the voice changes, you know
what I mean. You have miles that you have done.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
On your you know, on your on your vocal folds,
and Robert Plant is done such a spectacular job in
being able to transcend from singing that projected you know,
all's out type of youthful singing, to bring in it
in taking it back a little bit and having a career,
(17:37):
a very successful career just singing a little bit differently.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So are those you just bring back to my.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Idea of wanting a reunion. Why not?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean, if they can make it work where it's
comfortable for them as musicians, and if they can spark
some creativity.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I say, go for it. You know what I mean.
I'd love to see that.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Maybe a low key acoustic album, you know, something off
like you know Zeppelin three.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know, yeah, I feel the same way. It's it's adjusting.
It's kind of like an athlete when they get older.
It may not be the same you know, velocity, but
you can still have talent and do it a different way.
No one's going to be look or sound exactly how
they used to sound, and that's okay. I look at
this guy just from a few months ago, and he's
a completely different person. Especially look at this hair man.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That hair is That hair reminds me of sunny California
surfer dude hair.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He's a little bit of a surfer. You don't want this,
you don't want to play with the skull. I have
a plush skull that was given to me from the
dead daisies.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Oh yeah, oh nice, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
This is an appropriate driofoid.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
It doesn't. It doesn't scare him.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
All that all that metal images and all that behind you,
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I guess not. I guess not.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Appetite for destruction and all that stuff which on him.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Let's not teach him. I think yeah, I think he's
he needs to go back and be free. He's a
wild dinosaur.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I warned you at the beginning. I was like, we
may get a He's like a dinosaur. He just comes
in and tears apart. I don't know. This is part
of the show as I've been doing this thing since
twenty sixteen, which is just crazy. Uh, thank you. You
know when I was single, depressed, and now I got
a wife and a kid, and let's just bring it in.
(19:30):
Let let the days go by.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I who is that song from this is not My Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Wife the Talking Heads? Yeah, David Burns, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
You know it's just like the song. You know what
a clever lyric you know that cat for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to ask, because I know kind of jumping
around a little bit, would you I'm assuming you would
could count Lynch Mob as your your big break because
you know you were inspired to go out to the
West Coast because the d O we got a little
bit of your history. You know, I'm sure you were
in and out of some other bands, but Lynch Mob
was your first big break and thinking like, okay, this
(20:12):
is this is it? Like, how did you feel when
you got that opportunity?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Oh? I felt fantastic.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I felt like the luckiest guy in the world, you know,
I mean the luckiest you know, aspiring singer that you
know during that period that was looking for an opportunity
to have I mean that platform. You know, I mentioned
this before. George was a huge guitar hero. I mean
(20:39):
in Japan, you know, he was you know here in
the States of course worldwide. You know, people were waiting
to see what he was going to do next and
to have him seek me out through via John ald
Alretty from Racearex, the bass player who you know. George
(21:00):
was asking who's the cat in town that I need
to check out for my new band, and John said
my name. So, you know, I feel like, you know,
I was given an opportunity, a platform to to to man,
you know, to to really give it my all, and
I felt that I took it very seriously, you know.
(21:22):
Of course, you know experimenting and everything, you know, like
we did back in the day. Was fun and everything,
but that was this whole part of the you know,
the fabric of what we were trying to do. We
kind of wanted to keep it, you know, kind of heady,
kind of you know, uh dark in that. And we
experienced that together. And I think George and I and
(21:46):
the band.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
We did that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I mean, you know, Mick Brown with his you know,
fantastic He's got such a great feel in his grooves,
you know, and right along with Anthony having some good
insight as to you know, with me.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Because we were younger guys, we.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Were able to keep try to stay away from being
it too much of an eighties thing, you know, implement
a little bit more of the you know UK sound,
New York sound, you know, which is a little bit
different from the West Coast that was more of the
eighties rock to you know. I'll tell you I never
worked hair net or hair spray before.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I'm doing it now.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Though hair looks good. It looks good. No aquain that then,
but a little moose today. That's okay, Yeah, I gotcha.
When that, you know, famously didn't work out infamously to workout,
because you seem like such a positive guy. But obviously
this is now. Then did you how did you pick
yourself back up? I guess did you think like, oh no,
(22:45):
my am I back at the a certain starting point,
or like, you know what onto the next one? This happens,
you know with bands? Was you know, I.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Didn't bet, I didn't bat an eye. I came out
of that and was right away set up with the
guitars that played with Ronnie, who was hired by Ronnie
at the age of sixteen. Rowan Robertson from the UK
was available, and it was Wendy Dio that suggested that
(23:17):
we team up and try to write a couple of songs.
So we did, did a demo, and that demo went
around to you know, two or three record companies and.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
We got a deal just like that.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
So to me, it wasn't a sort of any sort
of getting into a slump.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It was just like work next.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And ironically, you know, when the Lynch Mob was in
the studio cutting their second album, and I mentioned this
before in an other interview, they had.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Called well it was good night la oh gosh, I'm
forgetting the producer's name now Anyways, they called me.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Up to see if I could come in to have
a listen to what they were working on.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And and you know, so they asked.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Me to to to you know, they wanted me to
do the second record, but everything was written already.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And here I had this.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
New band, and I was going for a little bit
more of an adventurous sound, and I had a deal
locked in with Atlantic.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So why go back? Okay, you know, go forward.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
So that's there was no room to It was just
you know, being creative at that period in time. For me,
it was all about being creative and making good music
is what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh, I love it. That's It's just a great message
to the get out there, just move on next thing,
and like, look at the opportunities that have come out
of each situation that you've been in and just moving
forward and progressing. I love that. One of the things
I want to ask you to before we get into
what you're going on. What's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I didn't know this. You were, I guess heavily considered
to be the lead singer for Slash's snake Bit, the
first version. So can you tell us that story? Kind
of went because that was I think Guns of Roses.
I don't know if they were broken up there or
because Slash the Snake but started towards the end of GNR.
(25:20):
But obviously Slash wanted to do his own thing. So
tell us how the opportunity happen and maybe how close
were you, you know, to being Eric Dover, I should say.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, I mean my introduction to Guns and Roses, to
the Guns and Roses music, had came through a chance
meeting with West R.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Keene, who co wrote some of their early materials.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Upon arriving into La, when I was going out, you know,
discovering La at nightlife and everything, I had a chance
meeting to meet West at the Garden sun Hotel where
there was a party being held, and very unassuming character,
(26:09):
you know, scraggly hair, very low key, and we.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Were talking by the pool area.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There was this court yard at the Sunset Garden Hotel
where it's just the pool and I just by chance
just started chatting up with him and uh and uh,
he just started talking.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, you know, I write some music and stuff, and
I just you know, I've co written some Guns and
Roses songs and I was like, oh wow, that's great.
So it just turned out to be his party. He
was celebrating a publishing deal that he had just signed,
and I had no idea because he seemed so unassuming.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Everybody was like, you know, you know, loud and doing
what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And so that's how I got introduced to the Guns
and Roses.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
And he was a great guy, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And and on tour I would one day I was
watching MTV and there he was with Axel at the
Scrap Bar playing acoustic and I was like, I know
that guy.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
And so West I would.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Run into him from time to time at the Rainbow
or at the cat House or at the Cat and
Fiddle on sunset, and he was always a cool guy.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You know. It's a shame about you know, how he
passed away and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And you know, I you know, those guys were swinging low,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I was, I was on the yup. You know, those
guys were doing a whole different thing.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
There was another subculture going on that I really wasn't
awakened to.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You know, those guys were the real deal.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I mean, you know, uh, you know, of course, you
know they are the real deal, you know with uh
you know coming out you know, guns and roasts. You know,
they threw everything on the table. But what you see
is what you hear is what you get. So uh
but going back to West that was my introduction.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So we fast forward some years, coming off the heels
of Violets Demise, just doing some rough mixes with Dave Jorden.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Uh, My management got a call from the.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Great Jimmy Bain, the late great Jimmy Bain who played
with Ronnie and Rainbow for many years. So you know,
he was friends with Slash of course, and you know
the part of the fabric of the Rainbow and everything.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
So Jimmy had called my management.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
He said, let's uh we need a package like a
SAP for Slashes people for consideration of his for his
new band called Slash a Snake Pit.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
So I thought about it for a second.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Here I can still have a deal, of course, and
I'm just finishing up mixes and rough mixes, and and
I thought about it. I was like, well, you know,
this could be cool, you know too, you know, if
I could do this too. So I rushed and got
a few rough mixes together of board tapes from from
(29:06):
the studio and off went Jimmy the next night to
deliver the package to Slash.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So well, I didn't hear anything back. I mean, it
was like a couple of weeks later.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You know, nothing really came from it, other than running
into Mike Ainez at a club called the Pelican's Retreat
in Calabasas. We were hanging out, you know, roughing it up,
having a good time, and then he pulled me aside
and goes, hey, man, you know you were really seriously
considered for the snake you know, Slash a snakepit new spot,
(29:40):
you know, as a singer. I said, it would have
been cool. You know, I would loved to have done it,
But I don't know what you know, could have should
have I don't know. Maybe it was my Atlantic deal,
Maybe Atlantic my a R guy got wind of it.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
You never know what these things, you.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Know what I mean, When people are tied up with contracts,
things get really messy. People can get sued, and that's
just the way the nature of the business.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
So that's that's cool. And I didn't know West was
a part of this story, And I really appreciate you
sharing a little bit of his personality because he's just
a you know, while it's a tragic ending, he's an
unsung hero.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Uh, he is an unsung hero. Like I said, he
was very personable, very like Loki.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I had no idea this cat was on the level
of writing songs with Axel in the and the rest
of the band. You know, you know, it's so easy.
You know, that's one of my favorite Guns songs, you
know what I mean. He was part of that, you know,
and you know, running running into meeting him that night
(30:45):
and then running into him later on at different clubs.
He was always very cool and just laid back and
we'd have a couple of drinks and he was he
was definitely.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Having a good time, that's for sure, you know what
I mean. He he did.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
He did well for him himself on that publishing deal.
But it's a sad into Uh. A very talented guy
who put his heart and soul into U, given the
best that he could, given his the best that he got.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, and you know, for what it's worth, if it
means anything. That's why I like keeping these guys memories alive.
Some of these people that we've lost through you know,
the podcasts or social media, people that should be remembered. Uh,
that's trying to do my little small part. And absolutely
and before we switch up from the G and R
(31:32):
portion of it, you've seen Slash since then or have
you interacted with it?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I you know, after that whole.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
You know, delivering of the package, some years go by later.
I would you know, run into him periodically, like you know,
he'd be in Phoenix chilling out, you know, with a
mutual friend at their house and you know I would
be invited over for you know, a little private party
and we'd have some drinks and some laughs and always
(32:04):
low key, very very cool.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
The ironic thing is that we never really talked about music.
All we did was just like shoot the shit, you know,
and just you know, talk about everything else and playpool
and and that was about it. I think, you know,
you know, running into him at the Farmer's Market with
his baby London.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And my baby Delilah.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know they're both in there a London, you know, Delilah,
you know who. Ironically we ran into London at the
Magic Castle on his birthday like last year. And yeah,
I mean you know when Slash introduced me to his kid,
you know, he was just a baby and then to
see him like seven feet tall and hearing you know
(32:48):
that he plays drums and he's out on tour and
all this good stuff. It's a trip, you know, to
see our kids go from little you know, Harrison's.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Too, you know, and just giving you know whatever. Twelve
more years will be you know, taller than.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You in him. He might be tall than me in
a year. But yeah, that's cool. I appreciate you sharing
that story. And you never know in the future. Slash
is always doing stuff with man.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
He's a working machine man, which is great to see
that he's been able to have so much success and
doing what he loves doing, you know, doing a.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Blues album recently, which is great.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I love that he pays homage to the blues because
he's a classic rock guy all the way. You know,
his infinity for the blues and classic rock is you know,
you know, on a high standard. So I appreciate musicians
like that, and I'm happy to see him doing so
good out there and keeping keeping his legacy alive and
(33:52):
giving the music audiences you know, rock classic lovers.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
You know, you know his music.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You know what about you, mister Logan, I mean, you're
still out there doing it right. It's is it the
most current thing? The Cosmic Trust Sessions your your EP.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, the Cosmic Trust Sessions came off just by chance.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I I was just leaving a.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I was just going through a divorce and I was
I moved away from Saint George where I had been
living with my significant other at that time, and I
was just a little confused in that.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I guess I wanted to blow off some steam.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
And so the Cosmic Trust Sessions happened just at a
pure chance of meeting the Solo brothers from San Diego, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Solo guitarist, his brother Drew.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
They just came in, called me or got in contact
with me and said, listen, we're going into the studio.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You know, we'd like to have you come down.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
And I had met them at this Mauie Sugar Milk
Club and I was attracted to Jimmy's guitar playing. I
thought he was real street like, and like I said,
I wanted to blow off some steam and I thought, oh,
let's let's go into the studio just rock. So that
came on to my lap. Jimmy goes, listen, we got
(35:23):
a we got a studio. You can do whatever you want.
So we went in there. We did it really quickly
and that became an EP. And you know that sound
has got an edgy sound to it. Jimmy's the street guy,
you know, on his guitar playing, and we did it
real quick.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
We had Matt who played with the Slashes Snake Pit,
Matt Low.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, that's right, man, he's doing it up.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And so we had Matt Log on drums and so
we did it really quick.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I think we did it within two weeks, and I
just wanted to blow off some steam. I I think
I got that done. It's only available for purchase on
the through my website. It's not available for download. I've
chosen that route for a reason.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
And so it is what it is. It's it's it's
an EP.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Currently, I'm working on writing some new material. I don't
want to name the guitarist at the moment because uh,
we're kind of just on testing the grounds right now,
and you know, so I'm quite excited about that. Also,
I'm very interested in doing another recording with George Lynch,
(36:49):
you know, my old partner from the Lynch Mob. I'd
love to do a recording under the Monarcaer of Lynch
Logan because.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Were the Lynch Mob.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, no, uh, you know that's kind of a coin of.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
The writing.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Was us so and we have a history of uh,
you know, of putting out smoke and mirrors that came
out with marcol Mendoza, Scott.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Coogan as musicians. We uh, we did the Rebel album.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
We had Brian Titchie and drums, We had Jeff Pilson
on bass.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
We did the Sound Mountain Sessions, Robbie Crane on bass
it Scott Coogan again, and then we did the Brotherhood
with Jimmy DeAnda, the Great Jimmy DeAnda from the Bull
Boys and Sean McNabb on bass.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Uh. And so we've got history.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
George and I I would like to.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Veer away from the Lynch Mob name.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Only because I'd just like to see what Lynch and
Logan can do together and and create that sound.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
It'll sound like the Lynch Mob, it would just be
under our names, that's all.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'd like to use one of his, uh, his phrases
before we turn to dust, Lynch Logan, before we turn
to dust, sound good.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
It sounds hey, it sounds good to me. And honestly,
Lynch Logan is kind of a cool name, yeah, because
it sounds like it sounds like a name as opposed
to just two last names. Too. It sounds like kind
of like a well I mean think Alexandria me being
lynched by well, well, that'll help you get some attention nowadays, right, No, No, we.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Don't need to be exuding that kind of uh, you
know imagery, you know, especially with the you know, the
youth these days, you know what I mean, you know,
mental health and all that stuff. No, no negativity, you know,
just play playing straight up pure rock with a little
bit of misdicity to it and good vibrations, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Right on, so you can get the cosmic trust sessions
on Logan only Logan because my brother's name is Logan,
so that I always like, am I going to call
you Logan by accident one time? And it happened towards
the end. So I'm glad I got it out only
Loganofficial dot com. And you're on Facebook, you're on Instagram,
so I look forward to what's the commp whether it's
(39:26):
with or without Lynch. I'm glad that you are. You know,
you're out there still doing it. And this was really
a pleasure to get to talk with you today and
the Kickoff twenty twenty five for my podcast.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So thank you, Thanks Branda for inviting me for your
Kickoff twenty twenty five show.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I look forward to talking to you again. We could
talk from we could talk for miles.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah. No, I hope we get to do this again.
So when you tour, whether it's another EP or you
just have something to get off your chest, just.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Let me know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Well while Fund and maybe Babe Brownstone will be in
a better mood and participate a little bit more next time. Yeah,
it does. So until next time, when will you see
the next episode? In the words of Axel Rose concerning
Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
You know what, yes is Appetite for Distortion.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite four Distortion, Episode number four
hundred and eighty seven. My name is Brando. Welcome to
the podcast, and Happy New Year, mister Ony Logan. How
are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm doing great, Brando, Thanks for having me. Happy twenty
twenty five?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Here we are, here, we are twenty twenty five, and
I could still say Happy New Year? Right it's the sixth.
Is there a cutoff for you when you can stop saying.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh man, happy New Year? As a whole? It's every
day for me just to be just to be still
cruising doing my thing.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, I love that. So we're going to talk
to Odie Logan, the original voice of Lynch Mob, about
so many different things and what's going on today. Where
are you zooming in from? If I may ask, Unless
it's a secret location and you can't divoltge that.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's the Pacific Coast Cali, Okay, else.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Where else to give yet?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, no, Pacific Coast to California.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
You know, I came back about two and a half
years ago. I was living in the Red Rocks in
the desert out in Saint George, Utah, which was which
was great because I love to hike.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, yeah, you know you.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Have all the parks out there, and it was you know,
a great time for me as well.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
But back on the coast where.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I love the weather awesome. Well, I get I got
a kid out there at some point because as I
look outside my window here in Queens, New York, there's
this flake of snow dropping.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Hey, you know, Queens, New York is cool. You know,
my family migrated to Queens, New York. Don't ask me
what part of Queens, New York because it had.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Been so long ago, but I have, I have. You know,
I was very I was just a baby, but I
remember the old.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
The elevator doors that were like the ones that would
just slide through with like a spring, sure and yellow
light in an apartment building back when oh gosh, so
many years ago, but I do remember that from the Queens.
And of course, you know, later in years, I would
visit New York and spend time in Hell's Kitchen like
(02:43):
eighty eight eighty seven and going to parties and.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Queens and stuff like that. But yeah, Queens is cool.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Right on. And depending upon which apartment building you go to,
now those elevators still exists.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I believe it. Man.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Actually a good segue because we were talking off the
air a little bit because we may be surprised by
my my one and a half year old baby Brownstone,
who's napping in the background. But as you're talking about
being a kid, and I like to talking about this
with guests, where did music start for you as a kid,
Because you know, I'm not really cramming guns and roses
(03:21):
down his throat. I mean just maybe a little bit.
My wife was, yeah, just a little bit. But he
you know, we have music playing. He takes music class today. See,
so with all sorts of kind of music and from
different genres, from different cultures. So where was it for you?
Did your parents? Was it because you grew up in
Buenos Aires? Is that is that correct?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No? No, we migrated to Queens.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, because Wikipedia is wrong and I try, how do
I not trust WI? How do I trust Wikipedia? It
says you were born in Buenos Aires, Argenta.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I was born in Buenos Aires, but I was brought
over to the United States when I was eleven months old.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Oh, Queens.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
We were there for about a year and a half
and then my father found a job in Stanford, Connecticut,
and I was living in Stanford, Connecticut until the age
of nine, and then we went south like a lot
of the New York Kinos.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Did back in the days.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Sure, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And yeah, remained in Florida until I was about twenty four,
twenty five, and then I moved to pursue my my
dream of becoming a recording artist and a performer.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So but music started very early for me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I or may have mentioned it in a prior interview
a couple of months ago. You know, it started with
my mom, you know, driving in her car with AM
radio on. We would hear, you know, all the latest
songs that were out, you know, one being you know Harrison,
you know, talking about Harrison, George Harrison, my Sweet Lord,
(04:52):
Laila By Clapped in Badfinger, all these cats.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So I was introduced to music at like five years of.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Age, you know, on the front of my mom's car,
playing the dashboard, and you know, I was off from
there and you know started, you know, I started singing
at a very early age, just to sing because.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
My mom used to sing all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And that would turn into taking up the drums at
the age of ten, and I was quite good at
playing drums there for a few years. My father was
very supportive. My parents, both of them were very supportive
of my musical aspirations, and I left for music started
(05:35):
going to concerts.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know. My first concert was the age.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Of twelve, my Baseball Stadium, Peter Frampton Comes Alive, seventy
thousand people there. You know, I had a seven year
old brothers he's seven years older, and my mom and
dad would say, take them with you, take him with yourself.
I you know, I got to see Errol Smith the
Rocks Tour. I got to see twenty one twelve, Rush,
(06:00):
New Gent back in the day, Mahogany, Rush of God, Sticks,
Grand Illusion Tour, so many and I'm so I'm so
grateful that I was that I was able to see
those bands at that time period in that music. That
music was so special to me, you know, the seventies
music and the classic rock stuff so good. And that's
(06:24):
where you know, my whole thing is from, you know,
coming up from that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay, I love that and especially supportive parents.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, Harrison, my son named after George because I've said before,
you know, it's one thing they have at Guns and
Roses podcast. But if I named my kid Axel, that
might be a step too far. So my wife and
I and our parents, we all love the Beatles and
we've settled on Harrison and we take them to different
classes of actual music classes. But you know, what are
(06:54):
they doing is banging on things and just grabbing toys.
But there's they're surrounded by it. We got a little
toy drum set to show him that the sticks and
the hit. He just knows the hit. He doesn't know
what he's doing yet. But yeah, the concerts. I'm hoping
to take him to some shows because my wife loves
going to shows. This year with head fans. It it
really is. But we'll see where he you know, he's
(07:17):
not even too yet where he grows up to be.
So I'm looking forward to seeing that path and what
I could support him in. Uh So, do you remember
like your first because you talked about your first concert,
you like your first band? Did you know you wanted
to go to the rock and roll because you you
mentioned all of these rock bands. Do you remember like
your first favorite band? And you're like, I kind of
I want to grow up to be that. Do you
(07:38):
remember that absolutely?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You know, Robert Plant, you know what I mean. You know,
I was a zepead kid, you know, and it was
I don't know, they were so different so to me,
so so you know, I mean they evoked a sound
that just you know, for all of us, they instilled
(08:02):
something that forever will It's in the books, right, so,
you know, listening to Plant, Paul Rogers, you know, Rod Stewart,
early Beck Records, Rod Stewart, the.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Great Ronnie James deal.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You know, when I discovered him on LP, when I
had ordered through Columbia House this band Rainbow, you know,
I had no idea what I was going to hear.
But once I put that needle on that groove, that
voice came out and I was just like, who is this?
So you know, and Ronnie, you know, was you know,
(08:41):
so much more than just a great singer.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean, he you know, as far as his vocal ability.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I mean, he could be you know, singing the sweetest
song like something off the Butterfly's Ball movie, which was
done by Roger Glover back in the day, something so
soft and beautiful and pure. He had a very pure voice.
I mean, it was the gods that gave him that voice. So,
you know, these classic rock singers. And when I spoke
to Ronnie when he was still here with us, you know,
(09:10):
he mentioned, you know, yeah, rock Stewart for sure.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know he was into early Beck stuff. You know.
Of course Ronnie was a crooner too as well, but
you know all the classic rock singers. You know. I
got into Joe Lynn Turner too as well.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I used to put on you know, difficult to cure
the album or straight between the eyes.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I would put it on the groove and I would
have my little pa set up and I would sing
to joe Linn Turner.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Man, what a voice, you know, Lou Graham, foreigner boom,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Those classic rock singers is where I.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Came up from those you know, Steve Walsh from Kansas.
You know, I can go on and on about these
great singers when musicians you know, had to really play
their string these you know strings and both list had
to really be able to sing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
So that's my That's where I came up with, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Uh, you know, powerful, powerful voices. And I was lucky
enough to have Lou grahamon last year. Uh, finally getting
inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But
to jump around a bit, yeah to jumper, sorry me
to cut you off, to jump around a bit because
you were talking about Ronnie. Of course, for you to
(10:26):
eventually become a touring member. Oh wait, do we have
our guest here? Do you hear? Did you hear Baby Brownstone?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Baby Brownstone?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Harrison? Harrison, he's waking. Well, yeah, we could have a
bottle and bring him to me. Sure he's gonna have
a nice collection. Uh. He didn't meet lou but he
met Paul Rogers and his wife Cynthia. I had him
on it. It's just so funny to go back. He'st
have a collection of himself talking to rock stars. Uh.
(10:57):
Later on, but he mentioned Ronnie James Dio and of
course you're a touring member of Dio's disciples. How did
that opportunity come about for you to be a kid?
I'm not quite as young as Baby Brownstone, but to
you know, first put on his records here that voice,
then all of a sudden be a member to carry
on his legacy, you know, is there? How did you
(11:21):
look at it? How do you feel like this is
a band?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Am?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I am I paying tribute to Ronnie. I guess I
don't want to fill in your thoughts, but what were
your thoughts when you were first offered that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh well, you know, to me, it was just a
great honor to represent. Hey there, Harrison, little baby Brownstone.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
He's here wearing his part dino sweatshirt that he's got
for Christmas. His middle name is Rex, so everything is dinosaur. Also,
it's all Beatles and dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Sorry, I'll mute. What's that? Oh yeah, bottle of jack
or a bottle of milk? Either one client.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So no to be to be offered the position to
represent Ronnie one of the singers, because there's not just
one singer that could do Wendy.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You know. Of course didn't want just one.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Singer to step in because there's no one singer that
could fill in the shoes. And she didn't want to
uh give that that idea to the fans and to
the audiences who love Ronnie so much that this is
the guy that's going to take over Ronnie James Deal's place. No,
it had to be two singers, and both singers had
(12:37):
to be a little bit different stylistically.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So if you have, you know, you have the Ripper,
you know, doing more of.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
The aggressive side, and I would choose the songs that
were more a little bit more blues bass. So that's
how that synergy worked between Ripper and I. But to
be asked, it was a great honor for me because
we had gone back. I had known the man, you know,
he was partly the reason why I came out to
(13:07):
LA to follow my my aspirations of becoming a recording artist.
He was one of the first major rock stars that
I met too as well, and he gave me his
phone number. He said, when you get to LA, give
me a call. So you know, he was one of
those kind of guys, you know what I mean, a real,
real gentleman.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And you know, of course when we lost.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Him, I left a big, big, great hole for the family,
you know, because we were all friends. I'm friends with
the band, the original band and so forth. And when
they came up with the idea, because they had started
off with Toby and Ripper in the beginning paying Homagetani's
(13:49):
music and then after Toby, they asked me to come aboard,
and I thought it was a great honor. And you know,
those songs that he had written over the years with
you know, with regards to Rainbow Dio, you know, there's
so crafted, well written songs. He was a craftman in
his work. He took it very seriously and they they
(14:12):
they're just so well written.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's just like a Ferrari.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
All you have to do is drive it well. And
so being as a singer, all I had to do
was drive it well. And it takes a lot of preparation.
It takes time to really just get your legs when
you sing that type of material. So, you know, it's
always a challenge for me, you know, especially you know
(14:37):
as you go into your later years, it's not easy
to project like you know, even though Ronnie so you know.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But he was one of the kind, right right right,
you know that. I'm glad you mentioned that because I
was thinking and just as I wanted to get your
opinions as a singer. You're talking about led Zeppelin and
how they're your favorite as a fan and as a singer,
you know, what do you think of just as Robert
Plants still around, Jimmy Page is still around. I know,
(15:07):
you know the reunion has been shot down, but do
you ever think about that as far as hey, these
guys are still around, can't we get one more kick
at the can? Like I guess some people say about
you and George Lynch with Lynch Mob, I mean, do
you have do you have any sort of feelings about like, hey,
let's just leave what's in the past, you know, Shine,
it was this moment. And I know there's two different situations,
(15:29):
so you may have two different answers, But I just
just sometimes I just look at you know, Robert Plants
out there, still doing it, and I'm like, man, what
a chance? What if he could see a version of
led Zeppelin. I don't know. I just think of like
the younger generations, people who didn't get a chance to
see it. It wouldn't be the same, I understand that.
But to see the guy who wrote the songs one
(15:52):
last time with you know, his his axe mate, I
guess think would be special. So I don't I don't know,
do you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You know, my image of led Zeppelin is their youth
and their tenacity and the energy they exuded. It was
a time and place for them, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Jimmy Page, you know, gosh, you know what I mean?
He was he was. You know, he was in there.
You know, they were living in the moment.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know, the whole thing was a whole conceptual just
just you.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Know, it was exuding from them.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I mean they you know, the lore, the whole thing,
the mysticism and everything. So to me, I don't think that,
you know, I'd like to see them get back together.
Of course, maybe write some new music, you know, at
the level of what they had in the past. I
don't see it happening though. I've seen Robert Plant do
(16:51):
you know, with the sensational shape shifters, you know, take
Zeppelin songs and you know, bring them down dynamically so
where he could like feel comfortable in singing, you know
as he's singing today, which reverting back.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
As the singer gets older, the voice changes, you know
what I mean. You have miles that you have done.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
On your you know, on your on your vocal folds,
and Robert Plant is done such a spectacular job in
being able to transcend from singing that projected you know,
all's out type of youthful singing, to bring in it
in taking it back a little bit and having a career,
(17:37):
a very successful career just singing a little bit differently.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So are those you just bring back to my.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Idea of wanting a reunion. Why not?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean, if they can make it work where it's
comfortable for them as musicians, and if they can spark
some creativity.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I say, go for it. You know what I mean.
I'd love to see that.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Maybe a low key acoustic album, you know, something off
like you know Zeppelin three.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know, yeah, I feel the same way. It's it's adjusting.
It's kind of like an athlete when they get older.
It may not be the same you know, velocity, but
you can still have talent and do it a different way.
No one's going to be look or sound exactly how
they used to sound, and that's okay. I look at
this guy just from a few months ago, and he's
a completely different person. Especially look at this hair man.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That hair is That hair reminds me of sunny California
surfer dude hair.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He's a little bit of a surfer. You don't want this,
you don't want to play with the skull. I have
a plush skull that was given to me from the
dead daisies.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Oh yeah, oh nice, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
This is an appropriate driofoid.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
It doesn't. It doesn't scare him.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
All that all that metal images and all that behind you,
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I guess not. I guess not.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Appetite for destruction and all that stuff which on him.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Let's not teach him. I think yeah, I think he's
he needs to go back and be free. He's a
wild dinosaur.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I warned you at the beginning. I was like, we
may get a He's like a dinosaur. He just comes
in and tears apart. I don't know. This is part
of the show as I've been doing this thing since
twenty sixteen, which is just crazy. Uh, thank you. You
know when I was single, depressed, and now I got
a wife and a kid, and let's just bring it in.
(19:30):
Let let the days go by.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I who is that song from this is not My Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Wife the Talking Heads? Yeah, David Burns, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
You know it's just like the song. You know what
a clever lyric you know that cat for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to ask, because I know kind of jumping
around a little bit, would you I'm assuming you would
could count Lynch Mob as your your big break because
you know you were inspired to go out to the
West Coast because the d O we got a little
bit of your history. You know, I'm sure you were
in and out of some other bands, but Lynch Mob
was your first big break and thinking like, okay, this
(20:12):
is this is it? Like, how did you feel when
you got that opportunity?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Oh? I felt fantastic.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I felt like the luckiest guy in the world, you know,
I mean the luckiest you know, aspiring singer that you
know during that period that was looking for an opportunity
to have I mean that platform. You know, I mentioned
this before. George was a huge guitar hero. I mean
(20:39):
in Japan, you know, he was you know here in
the States of course worldwide. You know, people were waiting
to see what he was going to do next and
to have him seek me out through via John ald
Alretty from Racearex, the bass player who you know. George
(21:00):
was asking who's the cat in town that I need
to check out for my new band, and John said
my name. So, you know, I feel like, you know,
I was given an opportunity, a platform to to to man,
you know, to to really give it my all, and
I felt that I took it very seriously, you know.
(21:22):
Of course, you know experimenting and everything, you know, like
we did back in the day. Was fun and everything,
but that was this whole part of the you know,
the fabric of what we were trying to do. We
kind of wanted to keep it, you know, kind of heady,
kind of you know, uh dark in that. And we
experienced that together. And I think George and I and
(21:46):
the band.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
We did that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I mean, you know, Mick Brown with his you know,
fantastic He's got such a great feel in his grooves,
you know, and right along with Anthony having some good
insight as to you know, with me.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Because we were younger guys, we.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Were able to keep try to stay away from being
it too much of an eighties thing, you know, implement
a little bit more of the you know UK sound,
New York sound, you know, which is a little bit
different from the West Coast that was more of the
eighties rock to you know. I'll tell you I never
worked hair net or hair spray before.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I'm doing it now.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Though hair looks good. It looks good. No aquain that then,
but a little moose today. That's okay, Yeah, I gotcha.
When that, you know, famously didn't work out infamously to workout,
because you seem like such a positive guy. But obviously
this is now. Then did you how did you pick
yourself back up? I guess did you think like, oh no,
(22:45):
my am I back at the a certain starting point,
or like, you know what onto the next one? This happens,
you know with bands? Was you know, I.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Didn't bet, I didn't bat an eye. I came out
of that and was right away set up with the
guitars that played with Ronnie, who was hired by Ronnie
at the age of sixteen. Rowan Robertson from the UK
was available, and it was Wendy Dio that suggested that
(23:17):
we team up and try to write a couple of songs.
So we did, did a demo, and that demo went
around to you know, two or three record companies and.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
We got a deal just like that.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
So to me, it wasn't a sort of any sort
of getting into a slump.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It was just like work next.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And ironically, you know, when the Lynch Mob was in
the studio cutting their second album, and I mentioned this
before in an other interview, they had.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Called well it was good night la oh gosh, I'm
forgetting the producer's name now Anyways, they called me.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Up to see if I could come in to have
a listen to what they were working on.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And and you know, so they asked.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Me to to to you know, they wanted me to
do the second record, but everything was written already.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And here I had this.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
New band, and I was going for a little bit
more of an adventurous sound, and I had a deal
locked in with Atlantic.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So why go back? Okay, you know, go forward.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
So that's there was no room to It was just
you know, being creative at that period in time. For me,
it was all about being creative and making good music
is what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh, I love it. That's It's just a great message
to the get out there, just move on next thing,
and like, look at the opportunities that have come out
of each situation that you've been in and just moving
forward and progressing. I love that. One of the things
I want to ask you to before we get into
what you're going on. What's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I didn't know this. You were, I guess heavily considered
to be the lead singer for Slash's snake Bit, the
first version. So can you tell us that story? Kind
of went because that was I think Guns of Roses.
I don't know if they were broken up there or
because Slash the Snake but started towards the end of GNR.
(25:20):
But obviously Slash wanted to do his own thing. So
tell us how the opportunity happen and maybe how close
were you, you know, to being Eric Dover, I should say.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, I mean my introduction to Guns and Roses, to
the Guns and Roses music, had came through a chance
meeting with West R.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Keene, who co wrote some of their early materials.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Upon arriving into La, when I was going out, you know,
discovering La at nightlife and everything, I had a chance
meeting to meet West at the Garden sun Hotel where
there was a party being held, and very unassuming character,
(26:09):
you know, scraggly hair, very low key, and we.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Were talking by the pool area.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There was this court yard at the Sunset Garden Hotel
where it's just the pool and I just by chance
just started chatting up with him and uh and uh,
he just started talking.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, you know, I write some music and stuff, and
I just you know, I've co written some Guns and
Roses songs and I was like, oh wow, that's great.
So it just turned out to be his party. He
was celebrating a publishing deal that he had just signed,
and I had no idea because he seemed so unassuming.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Everybody was like, you know, you know, loud and doing
what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And so that's how I got introduced to the Guns
and Roses.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
And he was a great guy, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And and on tour I would one day I was
watching MTV and there he was with Axel at the
Scrap Bar playing acoustic and I was like, I know
that guy.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
And so West I would.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Run into him from time to time at the Rainbow
or at the cat House or at the Cat and
Fiddle on sunset, and he was always a cool guy.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You know. It's a shame about you know, how he
passed away and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And you know, I you know, those guys were swinging low,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I was, I was on the yup. You know, those
guys were doing a whole different thing.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
There was another subculture going on that I really wasn't
awakened to.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You know, those guys were the real deal.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I mean, you know, uh, you know, of course, you
know they are the real deal, you know with uh
you know coming out you know, guns and roasts. You know,
they threw everything on the table. But what you see
is what you hear is what you get. So uh
but going back to West that was my introduction.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So we fast forward some years, coming off the heels
of Violets Demise, just doing some rough mixes with Dave Jorden.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Uh, My management got a call from the.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Great Jimmy Bain, the late great Jimmy Bain who played
with Ronnie and Rainbow for many years. So you know,
he was friends with Slash of course, and you know
the part of the fabric of the Rainbow and everything.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
So Jimmy had called my management.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
He said, let's uh we need a package like a
SAP for Slashes people for consideration of his for his
new band called Slash a Snake Pit.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
So I thought about it for a second.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Here I can still have a deal, of course, and
I'm just finishing up mixes and rough mixes, and and
I thought about it. I was like, well, you know,
this could be cool, you know too, you know, if
I could do this too. So I rushed and got
a few rough mixes together of board tapes from from
(29:06):
the studio and off went Jimmy the next night to
deliver the package to Slash.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So well, I didn't hear anything back. I mean, it
was like a couple of weeks later.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You know, nothing really came from it, other than running
into Mike Ainez at a club called the Pelican's Retreat
in Calabasas. We were hanging out, you know, roughing it up,
having a good time, and then he pulled me aside
and goes, hey, man, you know you were really seriously
considered for the snake you know, Slash a snakepit new spot,
(29:40):
you know, as a singer. I said, it would have
been cool. You know, I would loved to have done it,
But I don't know what you know, could have should
have I don't know. Maybe it was my Atlantic deal,
Maybe Atlantic my a R guy got wind of it.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
You never know what these things, you.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Know what I mean, When people are tied up with contracts,
things get really messy. People can get sued, and that's
just the way the nature of the business.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
So that's that's cool. And I didn't know West was
a part of this story, And I really appreciate you
sharing a little bit of his personality because he's just
a you know, while it's a tragic ending, he's an
unsung hero.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Uh, he is an unsung hero. Like I said, he
was very personable, very like Loki.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I had no idea this cat was on the level
of writing songs with Axel in the and the rest
of the band. You know, you know, it's so easy.
You know, that's one of my favorite Guns songs, you
know what I mean. He was part of that, you know,
and you know, running running into meeting him that night
(30:45):
and then running into him later on at different clubs.
He was always very cool and just laid back and
we'd have a couple of drinks and he was he
was definitely.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Having a good time, that's for sure, you know what
I mean. He he did.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
He did well for him himself on that publishing deal.
But it's a sad into Uh. A very talented guy
who put his heart and soul into U, given the
best that he could, given his the best that he got.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, and you know, for what it's worth, if it
means anything. That's why I like keeping these guys memories alive.
Some of these people that we've lost through you know,
the podcasts or social media, people that should be remembered. Uh,
that's trying to do my little small part. And absolutely
and before we switch up from the G and R
(31:32):
portion of it, you've seen Slash since then or have
you interacted with it?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I you know, after that whole.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
You know, delivering of the package, some years go by later.
I would you know, run into him periodically, like you know,
he'd be in Phoenix chilling out, you know, with a
mutual friend at their house and you know I would
be invited over for you know, a little private party
and we'd have some drinks and some laughs and always
(32:04):
low key, very very cool.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
The ironic thing is that we never really talked about music.
All we did was just like shoot the shit, you know,
and just you know, talk about everything else and playpool
and and that was about it. I think, you know,
you know, running into him at the Farmer's Market with
his baby London.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And my baby Delilah.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know they're both in there a London, you know, Delilah,
you know who. Ironically we ran into London at the
Magic Castle on his birthday like last year. And yeah,
I mean you know when Slash introduced me to his kid,
you know, he was just a baby and then to
see him like seven feet tall and hearing you know
(32:48):
that he plays drums and he's out on tour and
all this good stuff. It's a trip, you know, to
see our kids go from little you know, Harrison's.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Too, you know, and just giving you know whatever. Twelve
more years will be you know, taller than.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You in him. He might be tall than me in
a year. But yeah, that's cool. I appreciate you sharing
that story. And you never know in the future. Slash
is always doing stuff with man.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
He's a working machine man, which is great to see
that he's been able to have so much success and
doing what he loves doing, you know, doing a.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Blues album recently, which is great.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I love that he pays homage to the blues because
he's a classic rock guy all the way. You know,
his infinity for the blues and classic rock is you know,
you know, on a high standard. So I appreciate musicians
like that, and I'm happy to see him doing so
good out there and keeping keeping his legacy alive and
(33:52):
giving the music audiences you know, rock classic lovers.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
You know, you know his music.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You know what about you, mister Logan, I mean, you're
still out there doing it right. It's is it the
most current thing? The Cosmic Trust Sessions your your EP.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, the Cosmic Trust Sessions came off just by chance.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I I was just leaving a.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I was just going through a divorce and I was
I moved away from Saint George where I had been
living with my significant other at that time, and I
was just a little confused in that.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I guess I wanted to blow off some steam.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
And so the Cosmic Trust Sessions happened just at a
pure chance of meeting the Solo brothers from San Diego, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Solo guitarist, his brother Drew.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
They just came in, called me or got in contact
with me and said, listen, we're going into the studio.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You know, we'd like to have you come down.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
And I had met them at this Mauie Sugar Milk
Club and I was attracted to Jimmy's guitar playing. I
thought he was real street like, and like I said,
I wanted to blow off some steam and I thought, oh,
let's let's go into the studio just rock. So that
came on to my lap. Jimmy goes, listen, we got
(35:23):
a we got a studio. You can do whatever you want.
So we went in there. We did it really quickly
and that became an EP. And you know that sound
has got an edgy sound to it. Jimmy's the street guy,
you know, on his guitar playing, and we did it
real quick.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
We had Matt who played with the Slashes Snake Pit,
Matt Low.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, that's right, man, he's doing it up.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And so we had Matt Log on drums and so
we did it really quick.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I think we did it within two weeks, and I
just wanted to blow off some steam. I I think
I got that done. It's only available for purchase on
the through my website. It's not available for download. I've
chosen that route for a reason.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
And so it is what it is. It's it's it's
an EP.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Currently, I'm working on writing some new material. I don't
want to name the guitarist at the moment because uh,
we're kind of just on testing the grounds right now,
and you know, so I'm quite excited about that. Also,
I'm very interested in doing another recording with George Lynch,
(36:49):
you know, my old partner from the Lynch Mob. I'd
love to do a recording under the Monarcaer of Lynch
Logan because.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Were the Lynch Mob.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, no, uh, you know that's kind of a coin of.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
The writing.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Was us so and we have a history of uh,
you know, of putting out smoke and mirrors that came
out with marcol Mendoza, Scott.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Coogan as musicians. We uh, we did the Rebel album.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
We had Brian Titchie and drums, We had Jeff Pilson
on bass.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
We did the Sound Mountain Sessions, Robbie Crane on bass
it Scott Coogan again, and then we did the Brotherhood
with Jimmy DeAnda, the Great Jimmy DeAnda from the Bull
Boys and Sean McNabb on bass.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Uh. And so we've got history.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
George and I I would like to.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Veer away from the Lynch Mob name.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Only because I'd just like to see what Lynch and
Logan can do together and and create that sound.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
It'll sound like the Lynch Mob, it would just be
under our names, that's all.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'd like to use one of his, uh, his phrases
before we turn to dust, Lynch Logan, before we turn
to dust, sound good.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
It sounds hey, it sounds good to me. And honestly,
Lynch Logan is kind of a cool name, yeah, because
it sounds like it sounds like a name as opposed
to just two last names. Too. It sounds like kind
of like a well I mean think Alexandria me being
lynched by well, well, that'll help you get some attention nowadays, right, No, No, we.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Don't need to be exuding that kind of uh, you
know imagery, you know, especially with the you know, the
youth these days, you know what I mean, you know,
mental health and all that stuff. No, no negativity, you know,
just play playing straight up pure rock with a little
bit of misdicity to it and good vibrations, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Right on, so you can get the cosmic trust sessions
on Logan only Logan because my brother's name is Logan,
so that I always like, am I going to call
you Logan by accident one time? And it happened towards
the end. So I'm glad I got it out only
Loganofficial dot com. And you're on Facebook, you're on Instagram,
so I look forward to what's the commp whether it's
(39:26):
with or without Lynch. I'm glad that you are. You know,
you're out there still doing it. And this was really
a pleasure to get to talk with you today and
the Kickoff twenty twenty five for my podcast.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So thank you, Thanks Branda for inviting me for your
Kickoff twenty twenty five show.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I look forward to talking to you again. We could
talk from we could talk for miles.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah. No, I hope we get to do this again.
So when you tour, whether it's another EP or you
just have something to get off your chest, just.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Let me know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Well while Fund and maybe Babe Brownstone will be in
a better mood and participate a little bit more next time. Yeah,
it does. So until next time, when will you see
the next episode? In the words of Axel Rose concerning
Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word,
but you'll see it.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.
Popular Podcasts
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Decisions, Decisions
Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!