September 3, 2025 • 19 mins
In this episode of #FeelingsMatter, hosts Heather Hampton, Michelle Stinson Ross, and Tina Schweiger explore the emotion of feeling moral - that sense of being connected to principles of right and wrong, especially regarding teaching right behavior. The conversation examines how moral feelings differ from other emotions because they're deeply rooted in our conditioning and values, making them particularly challenging to examine objectively. The hosts discuss how moral convictions can both guide positive action and fuel destructive conflicts.
Episode Highlights:
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Episode Highlights:
- Heather describes moral feelings as deeply tied to personal values and sense of self, making them more difficult to examine from different perspectives compared to other emotions, using current deportation policies as an example of how moral differences create unbridgeable gaps between people
- Michelle distinguishes moral emotions from other feelings by noting they're based more on conditioning, upbringing, and cultural training rather than biochemistry or neurological wiring, requiring us to acknowledge how our responses are shaped by what we've been taught
- Tina raises the provocative question of whether moral feelings might be "our deadliest emotion," pointing out that religious persecution and wars often involve both sides believing they're morally right
- The hosts discuss how moral feelings can interfere with kindness and empathy, with phrases like "get off your high horse" revealing how moral positioning can become judgmental rather than genuinely principled
- The conversation concludes with practical approaches to examining moral feelings, including using the "why ladder" technique to get to the root of beliefs and practicing self-acceptance to distinguish between core identity and potentially outdated belief systems
Podcast theme music by Dubush Miaw from Pixabay
This episode of the #FeelingsMatter Podcast was recorded and produced at MSR Studios in Saint Paul, MN. No reproduction, excerpting, or other use without written permission.
This episode is sponsored by
FeelWise - bridging the gap between reflection and resilience, offering practical tools to help people overcome obstacles, embrace change, and grow stronger emotionally. https://www.feel-wise.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Do you have trouble talking about your feelings. You're not alone.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's a topic that can make even the most powerful
people somewhat squeamish. You're listening to Feelings Matter, where our
mission is to demystify everything about emotions so that we
can all get more comfortable in talking about them. Joining Heather,
(00:28):
Tina and Michelle as we unpack a new angle on
emotions and.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The psychology of human nature. Feelings Matter. Hello, and welcome
to Feelings Matter.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'm Michelle Stinson Arras, I'm teenage Sweiger, and I'm Heather Hampton.
So Heather, Yes, ok, I gotta deeply for us. The
card that I chose this week is moral, okay, And
the definition of moral is that you feel connected to
(01:06):
principles of right and wrong, especially to teaching right behavior.
And this is probably one of the emotions that we
probably need the least clarification on. I think this is
something that is a very instinctual emotion, like we feel
it in our good in our chest. It's a very
(01:27):
I think, an instant reaction to right and wrong. Right,
we feel very principled when we're feeling moral, but I
often think it's really it can be very challenging because,
unlike a lot of other emotions, it is so tied
to our personal values that changing your perspective on something
(01:54):
that you feel moral about can be very conflicting. And
we're seeing a lot lot of this in our country
right now, particularly with these deportations that are going on,
and a lot of people very strongly feel that it
is very immoral to be treating human beings the way
(02:15):
that they are being treated. And we cannot breach this
gap between those who disagree with us because those people
are unwilling to look at how changing their mind would
need to change their overall values. So I'm just wondering
(02:37):
what you ladies think about that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Would you mind giving us maybe just a slight bit
more clarity with some of the challenge questions so that
we can all check in on ourselves and go, is
this where we actually are? Are we actually feeling that
morality experience right now?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Okay, so the questions to ask yourself, are you experiencing
a deep conviction and adherence to ethical principles and values?
Are you experiencing a sense of fulfillment and purpose in
your actions knowing that they align with your moral principles?
It contribute positively to the world, and are you finding
(03:19):
it easier to empathize with others when making moral judgments.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
The thing that's coming up for me is the feeling
of moral in that context feels like an internal sense
of rightness that feels good. And I think when you
mentioned the deportations and how it's a direct affront to
everything inside you that feels right and good, I think
(03:47):
the challenge is what that emotion really is, and I
think it comes into the contempt category of judging based.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
On what you feel is right morally.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So rather than thinking about if we flip that question
and say, okay, I believe the deep shipping people off
without due process and splitting apart families is not.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Moral, I judge that practice.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
But on the flip side, what does that say about
my morality my feelings in positive morality? And I think
that says that I feel right and good when people
are treated fairly, and I feel right and good when
families stay together and are honored. When I just speak that,
I feel a sense of morality, and it's a kind
(04:41):
of a double edged sword there, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Maybe I didn't articulate what I was trying to say.
What I was trying to say is that okay. So,
unlike an emotion like frustration or cheerfulness or something like that,
feeling moral is very deeply rooted to our sense of self,
(05:09):
and so with other emotions, it is easier for us
to say, okay, let me take a step back and
see my emotions from other perspectives. But when you are
dealing with this feeling of morality, it is much more
confronting of your own sense of self to change your
(05:31):
opinions about morality. And that is what causes conflict between
people on other sides of the fence, is that neither
party is willing to reflect on themselves at that deep
of a level because it's just hard.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It is a deep feeling and it is routent to
your principles, your core values, and most people haven't done
work their core values and really know what drives their
sense of right and wrong. I certainly have. So it
was pretty easy for me to go to what does
that say about me? That says I think people should
be treated fairly? That actually ties into my core values
(06:15):
of respect and integrity, and it's really hard when those
things are at crossed and that does cause conflict. And
I think that's what you're saying. It's like, that's a
really deep emotion of whether you're feeling like you're feeling
centered and grounded in it, or you're feeling like it's
being trampled all over. It's a very harsh thing.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, Yes, I would also like to add a layer
to this in that this is one of those emotional
experiences that we're conditioned too. We don't want to talk
a little bit about the conditioning aspect of it, that
(06:57):
it requires conditioning in a belief system, a value system,
something like that. How does our moral compass point has
to do with what we've been taught, how we've been trained? Again,
it comes to conditioning. Whereas, as Heather pointed out, there
(07:18):
are other emotions that are a lot more based in
our biochemistry, in our neurological makeup, in the way our
brains are wired that trigger certain emotions, this one happens
to be more triggered by our conditioning, our upbringing, our
(07:42):
culture that we live in. And I feel like that
just being able to accept and acknowledge that, oh, I
feel this way. I experienced this about certain things from
certain points of you because I have been conditioned to
(08:05):
respond in that way, and I really I don't honestly
think that it takes any of the sting out of it.
But it definitely has a different flavor to emotional experience
because what triggers it is very different than some of
(08:27):
our other I don't know, could we call them core emotions.
I don't know the emotions that we experience because of
our neurons, the way our brains work, that this one
takes on a different level because it does incorporate our conditioning.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Feelings.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Matter is brought to you by feel wise. Most people
can identify three.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Emotions sad, mad, and glad.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
But there are over one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Six ways to truly express how you feel.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Feel Wise tools help you.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Build your emotional vocabulary and transform understanding into action. Discover
the language of emotions on the fuel wise website at
Bitley slash fuel wise that b I T dot l
Y slash f E E L WI s E feel
(09:31):
wise turn emotional awareness into your superpower.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It does make you think, is it an emotion?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I would hazard to say that there is definitely an
emotional experience tide to it and truth be told, it
may very well be a blend of several emotions that
become what we experience as a moral experience. I don't
really have any problem in calling it in an emotion
(10:13):
or a feeling. I am fine with that. I think that, yes,
there is absolutely any emotional experience around morality. It's just
that it's informed differently than some of our other emotional experiences.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yeah, and it doesn't matter like anyway, this is all
about emotions.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Are part of the human experience. Human experience is broader
than a particular term might suggest exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And it comes back to what Heather often says that
emotions are data and not directives. So if the experience
that we identify that we become aware that, oh, this
is what I'm experiencing, how do we unpack that data point?
What do we use that piece of information for? Is
(11:11):
that a moment where maybe we do need to pause
and maybe evaluate our value system, our belief system, something
like that. Is that what that signals for? Is that
signal strictly just there to validate our belief system, or
(11:34):
is it a signal that if I'm getting into conflict
around this particular experience, maybe I do need to stop
and pause and go, Okay, what's causing that conflict? Do
I need to unpack my contribution to conflict? And honestly,
I am.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Just like this is like off the cuff.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I haven't really sat here and thought about it much
more than just the amount of time that we've been
talking in during this conversation, But that was what came
up for me. It's, oh, that's really a very interesting signal,
and I feel like that one deserves a bit more consideration.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The phrase that come up for me was get off
your high horse.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Like when people like the kind of thing that people
say in conflict that they accuse you of being too
moral and looking down on them. Sometimes that's a great
way to gaslight somebody.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
The moral high ground, Right, are you sure that you're
actually on the top of a hill and not in
a valley on this particular topic or issue or whatever
the case may be.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
There's that perception of, yeah, is this really the moral
high ground or is this just the culturally acceptable Like?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, In terms of human evolution and morality plays such
an important role in just the survival of the species. Right, Fundamentally,
don't kill people. It's not a good thing, right that
the species doesn't survive if that becomes an acceptable way
of being. So we have a moral sense that murder
(13:18):
is not right. But as our society has gotten more
evolved and we have more cultural layers and beliefs on
top of beliefs, etc. Than the other sorts of things
start to get a little bit fuzzy. But it is
so deeply embedded in our souls as human beings that
(13:41):
morality guides our way of being.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I have something interesting that came up, and this experience
or emotion is the cause of wars. To take that
really deep, you look at religious persecution.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Any almost, I feel like those are the types of
conflicts that both sides perceive themselves as being in the right.
How is that possible if you're in conflict? How could
you both be in the right?
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Do you think that moral is our deadliest emotion?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Ooh, that's a very big pause it ooh. I would
say that moral definitely has the potential to get in
the way of kindness, to get in the way of empathy,
to get in the way of other mindsets and states
(14:37):
of being.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
And it's also it makes it conducive to continue making
a story in your head about whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That comes back to that judgmental component. Yeah, sure, what
is the mindset? What are the mindfulness techniques that go
with moral because I think that part of what we
need in unpacking what is this experience? How does this
emotion potentially impact us? And I feel like for this
(15:09):
one in particular, that discussing the mindfulness techniques would be helpful.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
So I have moral bundled up in a group of
emotions that fall into a category of pride, like being proud,
feeling proud, satisfied, and accomplished, which you could imagine how
that goes together in the case of if you're finding
yourself in a moral position, making a list of the
(15:36):
things that you could take inventory of, it's an invitation
to look a little bit deeper within yourself then understand
what kind of principles that you have that are underneath
this feeling of a morality. Maybe take some breathing, do
some box breathing, just to center yourself for this introspective space.
(15:57):
Looking at your list the.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Why ladder for this one the most Yeah, why do
I believe this? Why do I think this? Over and
over again? Let's get down to the root of this.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Essentially, yes, does go to self acceptance.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
And I think that's really important, and there's a really
specific reason why paired pride with self acceptance. I think
self acceptance is one of those things that could take
your lifetime to get to a place of and often people,
most of us, probably never get there.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Right to truly.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Accept yourself for who you are, warts and all whatever
we want to say, for the good parts of you,
the bad parts of you. That's where I feel like
a sense of pride or morality is tethered to groundedness
that allows it to exist in a way that serves you,
rather than existing in a way that makes you want
(16:55):
to go to war.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
As you said, Tina, because moral is based in our
belief systems, our value systems, it does have a lot
to do with our perception of ourselves. And you're right,
in order to make sure that our self perception isn't
off or that we're trying to base our personal value
(17:24):
in something that maybe is outdated or outmoded and no
longer serves us, it does require that self acceptance and
self compassion to go. Oh, my value and my identity
aren't necessarily tied up in that outdated belief or a
(17:48):
system of behavior or judgment shortcuts don't necessarily get to
the core of who I am, like my validity as
a person, my identity, my personhood, all those things. Although
I use values and belief systems and things to express
(18:15):
who I've become. In that process of becoming, I might
get tripped over on old processes that I'm still hanging
on to, and moral is one of those opportunities. As
you said, to check in on yourself and go does
is this really still serving me? Is this really who
(18:37):
I am right now? Or am I just using an
old pattern that I've gotten comfortable with. And that's not
to say that moral in and of itself is a
bad thing. As you pointed out, Tina, valuing fairness and going.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I don't feel good.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't feel comfortable when fairness is imposed on when
we don't treat everybody the same way. That moral compass
is still important, it's still a good thing by and large,
and yet that emotional experience of morality is a good
(19:19):
signal to check in on yourself
Do you have trouble talking about your feelings. You're not alone.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's a topic that can make even the most powerful
people somewhat squeamish. You're listening to Feelings Matter, where our
mission is to demystify everything about emotions so that we
can all get more comfortable in talking about them. Joining Heather,
(00:28):
Tina and Michelle as we unpack a new angle on
emotions and.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The psychology of human nature. Feelings Matter. Hello, and welcome
to Feelings Matter.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'm Michelle Stinson Arras, I'm teenage Sweiger, and I'm Heather Hampton.
So Heather, Yes, ok, I gotta deeply for us. The
card that I chose this week is moral, okay, And
the definition of moral is that you feel connected to
(01:06):
principles of right and wrong, especially to teaching right behavior.
And this is probably one of the emotions that we
probably need the least clarification on. I think this is
something that is a very instinctual emotion, like we feel
it in our good in our chest. It's a very
(01:27):
I think, an instant reaction to right and wrong. Right,
we feel very principled when we're feeling moral, but I
often think it's really it can be very challenging because,
unlike a lot of other emotions, it is so tied
to our personal values that changing your perspective on something
(01:54):
that you feel moral about can be very conflicting. And
we're seeing a lot lot of this in our country
right now, particularly with these deportations that are going on,
and a lot of people very strongly feel that it
is very immoral to be treating human beings the way
(02:15):
that they are being treated. And we cannot breach this
gap between those who disagree with us because those people
are unwilling to look at how changing their mind would
need to change their overall values. So I'm just wondering
(02:37):
what you ladies think about that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Would you mind giving us maybe just a slight bit
more clarity with some of the challenge questions so that
we can all check in on ourselves and go, is
this where we actually are? Are we actually feeling that
morality experience right now?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Okay, so the questions to ask yourself, are you experiencing
a deep conviction and adherence to ethical principles and values?
Are you experiencing a sense of fulfillment and purpose in
your actions knowing that they align with your moral principles?
It contribute positively to the world, and are you finding
(03:19):
it easier to empathize with others when making moral judgments.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
The thing that's coming up for me is the feeling
of moral in that context feels like an internal sense
of rightness that feels good. And I think when you
mentioned the deportations and how it's a direct affront to
everything inside you that feels right and good, I think
(03:47):
the challenge is what that emotion really is, and I
think it comes into the contempt category of judging based.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
On what you feel is right morally.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So rather than thinking about if we flip that question
and say, okay, I believe the deep shipping people off
without due process and splitting apart families is not.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Moral, I judge that practice.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
But on the flip side, what does that say about
my morality my feelings in positive morality? And I think
that says that I feel right and good when people
are treated fairly, and I feel right and good when
families stay together and are honored. When I just speak that,
I feel a sense of morality, and it's a kind
(04:41):
of a double edged sword there, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Maybe I didn't articulate what I was trying to say.
What I was trying to say is that okay. So,
unlike an emotion like frustration or cheerfulness or something like that,
feeling moral is very deeply rooted to our sense of self,
(05:09):
and so with other emotions, it is easier for us
to say, okay, let me take a step back and
see my emotions from other perspectives. But when you are
dealing with this feeling of morality, it is much more
confronting of your own sense of self to change your
(05:31):
opinions about morality. And that is what causes conflict between
people on other sides of the fence, is that neither
party is willing to reflect on themselves at that deep
of a level because it's just hard.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It is a deep feeling and it is routent to
your principles, your core values, and most people haven't done
work their core values and really know what drives their
sense of right and wrong. I certainly have. So it
was pretty easy for me to go to what does
that say about me? That says I think people should
be treated fairly? That actually ties into my core values
(06:15):
of respect and integrity, and it's really hard when those
things are at crossed and that does cause conflict. And
I think that's what you're saying. It's like, that's a
really deep emotion of whether you're feeling like you're feeling
centered and grounded in it, or you're feeling like it's
being trampled all over. It's a very harsh thing.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, Yes, I would also like to add a layer
to this in that this is one of those emotional
experiences that we're conditioned too. We don't want to talk
a little bit about the conditioning aspect of it, that
(06:57):
it requires conditioning in a belief system, a value system,
something like that. How does our moral compass point has
to do with what we've been taught, how we've been trained? Again,
it comes to conditioning. Whereas, as Heather pointed out, there
(07:18):
are other emotions that are a lot more based in
our biochemistry, in our neurological makeup, in the way our
brains are wired that trigger certain emotions, this one happens
to be more triggered by our conditioning, our upbringing, our
(07:42):
culture that we live in. And I feel like that
just being able to accept and acknowledge that, oh, I
feel this way. I experienced this about certain things from
certain points of you because I have been conditioned to
(08:05):
respond in that way, and I really I don't honestly
think that it takes any of the sting out of it.
But it definitely has a different flavor to emotional experience
because what triggers it is very different than some of
(08:27):
our other I don't know, could we call them core emotions.
I don't know the emotions that we experience because of
our neurons, the way our brains work, that this one
takes on a different level because it does incorporate our conditioning.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Feelings.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Matter is brought to you by feel wise. Most people
can identify three.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Emotions sad, mad, and glad.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
But there are over one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Six ways to truly express how you feel.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Feel Wise tools help you.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Build your emotional vocabulary and transform understanding into action. Discover
the language of emotions on the fuel wise website at
Bitley slash fuel wise that b I T dot l
Y slash f E E L WI s E feel
(09:31):
wise turn emotional awareness into your superpower.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It does make you think, is it an emotion?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I would hazard to say that there is definitely an
emotional experience tide to it and truth be told, it
may very well be a blend of several emotions that
become what we experience as a moral experience. I don't
really have any problem in calling it in an emotion
(10:13):
or a feeling. I am fine with that. I think that, yes,
there is absolutely any emotional experience around morality. It's just
that it's informed differently than some of our other emotional experiences.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yeah, and it doesn't matter like anyway, this is all
about emotions.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Are part of the human experience. Human experience is broader
than a particular term might suggest exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And it comes back to what Heather often says that
emotions are data and not directives. So if the experience
that we identify that we become aware that, oh, this
is what I'm experiencing, how do we unpack that data point?
What do we use that piece of information for? Is
(11:11):
that a moment where maybe we do need to pause
and maybe evaluate our value system, our belief system, something
like that. Is that what that signals for? Is that
signal strictly just there to validate our belief system, or
(11:34):
is it a signal that if I'm getting into conflict
around this particular experience, maybe I do need to stop
and pause and go, Okay, what's causing that conflict? Do
I need to unpack my contribution to conflict? And honestly,
I am.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Just like this is like off the cuff.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I haven't really sat here and thought about it much
more than just the amount of time that we've been
talking in during this conversation, But that was what came
up for me. It's, oh, that's really a very interesting signal,
and I feel like that one deserves a bit more consideration.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The phrase that come up for me was get off
your high horse.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Like when people like the kind of thing that people
say in conflict that they accuse you of being too
moral and looking down on them. Sometimes that's a great
way to gaslight somebody.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
The moral high ground, Right, are you sure that you're
actually on the top of a hill and not in
a valley on this particular topic or issue or whatever
the case may be.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
There's that perception of, yeah, is this really the moral
high ground or is this just the culturally acceptable Like?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, In terms of human evolution and morality plays such
an important role in just the survival of the species. Right, Fundamentally,
don't kill people. It's not a good thing, right that
the species doesn't survive if that becomes an acceptable way
of being. So we have a moral sense that murder
(13:18):
is not right. But as our society has gotten more
evolved and we have more cultural layers and beliefs on
top of beliefs, etc. Than the other sorts of things
start to get a little bit fuzzy. But it is
so deeply embedded in our souls as human beings that
(13:41):
morality guides our way of being.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I have something interesting that came up, and this experience
or emotion is the cause of wars. To take that
really deep, you look at religious persecution.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Any almost, I feel like those are the types of
conflicts that both sides perceive themselves as being in the right.
How is that possible if you're in conflict? How could
you both be in the right?
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Do you think that moral is our deadliest emotion?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Ooh, that's a very big pause it ooh. I would
say that moral definitely has the potential to get in
the way of kindness, to get in the way of empathy,
to get in the way of other mindsets and states
(14:37):
of being.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
And it's also it makes it conducive to continue making
a story in your head about whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That comes back to that judgmental component. Yeah, sure, what
is the mindset? What are the mindfulness techniques that go
with moral because I think that part of what we
need in unpacking what is this experience? How does this
emotion potentially impact us? And I feel like for this
(15:09):
one in particular, that discussing the mindfulness techniques would be helpful.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
So I have moral bundled up in a group of
emotions that fall into a category of pride, like being proud,
feeling proud, satisfied, and accomplished, which you could imagine how
that goes together in the case of if you're finding
yourself in a moral position, making a list of the
(15:36):
things that you could take inventory of, it's an invitation
to look a little bit deeper within yourself then understand
what kind of principles that you have that are underneath
this feeling of a morality. Maybe take some breathing, do
some box breathing, just to center yourself for this introspective space.
(15:57):
Looking at your list the.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Why ladder for this one the most Yeah, why do
I believe this? Why do I think this? Over and
over again? Let's get down to the root of this.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Essentially, yes, does go to self acceptance.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
And I think that's really important, and there's a really
specific reason why paired pride with self acceptance. I think
self acceptance is one of those things that could take
your lifetime to get to a place of and often people,
most of us, probably never get there.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Right to truly.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Accept yourself for who you are, warts and all whatever
we want to say, for the good parts of you,
the bad parts of you. That's where I feel like
a sense of pride or morality is tethered to groundedness
that allows it to exist in a way that serves you,
rather than existing in a way that makes you want
(16:55):
to go to war.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
As you said, Tina, because moral is based in our
belief systems, our value systems, it does have a lot
to do with our perception of ourselves. And you're right,
in order to make sure that our self perception isn't
off or that we're trying to base our personal value
(17:24):
in something that maybe is outdated or outmoded and no
longer serves us, it does require that self acceptance and
self compassion to go. Oh, my value and my identity
aren't necessarily tied up in that outdated belief or a
(17:48):
system of behavior or judgment shortcuts don't necessarily get to
the core of who I am, like my validity as
a person, my identity, my personhood, all those things. Although
I use values and belief systems and things to express
(18:15):
who I've become. In that process of becoming, I might
get tripped over on old processes that I'm still hanging
on to, and moral is one of those opportunities. As
you said, to check in on yourself and go does
is this really still serving me? Is this really who
(18:37):
I am right now? Or am I just using an
old pattern that I've gotten comfortable with. And that's not
to say that moral in and of itself is a
bad thing. As you pointed out, Tina, valuing fairness and going.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I don't feel good.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't feel comfortable when fairness is imposed on when
we don't treat everybody the same way. That moral compass
is still important, it's still a good thing by and large,
and yet that emotional experience of morality is a good
(19:19):
signal to check in on yourself
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