Man Murders His Entire Family TWICE | The Unbelievable Case of Gregory Green - Love and Murder: Heartbreak to Homicide

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A man murders his entire family, goes to prison, somehow gets out, and does it all over again?
How could this happen? Who's to blame here? Let's get into the unbelievable case of Gregory Green,
right now on Love and Murder.

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Welcome Lambs. Welcome to a new episode of Love and Murder, your weekly true crime podcast

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telling you of heartbreak that turned to homicide. I am your host Ky, and in today's episode
we're discussing a case of Gregory Green, a man known for murdering his entire family.
Twice! This case was brought to light from LaM Henna page. Thank you Henna. Before we begin,

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and let's get into some love and murder. Gregory Vincent Green was born on December 10th,

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1966, and was raised in a really religious family. That's literally all we know about his
early life, so we're gonna fast forward to the 1990s. By this time, Greg had met a woman named
Tanya Clayton and the two quickly formed a relationship that led right into marriage.

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The couple married in July of 1989 and soon began to build a family together.
Tonya Clayton Green had two young children ages 5 and 8 from a previous relationship by the time she
had married Gregory. The family of four moved into a home of their own and Detroit Michigan.
The couple seemed on the right path to grow in a family as Tanya soon became pregnant with Gregory's

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child. However, their marriage was troubled with Gregory's increasingly controlling and violent
behavior. Friends of Tanya reported a significant and concerning change in Gregory's demeanor,
which made Tanya scared enough to consider leaving him. This information she had confided to a friend.

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On July 14th, 1991, Gregory, in a fit of rage, attacked Tanya in their home. He used a stake
knife to stab her 10 times in various parts of her body, including her neck, her cheek,
her chest, and her back, which resulted in Tanya's death. Tanya was six months pregnant at that time.

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Both she and their unborn child died. Oh my god, do you remember the last full episode I did,
which was the case of Leila D'Orte de Delus? And she was pregnant when she was murdered.
So I put the link in the show notes below so you can go back and listen to that one if you hadn't

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heard that one before. And my question is, what is wrong with people? Oh my god. Her other two children
were home at the time, but Gregory didn't hurt them. After the murder, Gregory made a very calm 9-1-1
call to report what he'd done. When police arrived, he greeted them warmly. Would you like a shoe

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cozy? Cookies and milk? A glass of apple juice? When you're done, I could show you the body in the kitchen.
I mean, he didn't actually say all of that, but just so you understand how crazy he sounds.
What he actually said was, I stabbed her. When they got to the kitchen, he pointed at Tanya and
took officers to the fridge where he'd put the murder weapon. Gregory was arrested and was charged

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with second degree murder. He pled no contest and was sentenced to 15 to 25 years in prison.
For the murder of two people? That's all he got? Prison records indicate that in that time he was in
prison, he showed no signs of remorse or empathy for the murders. Instead, he started blaming Tanya

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for what he did. He ended up being denied parole four times. Can you believe the gall of this guy? He's
blaming her and then tries to get out on parole. During his time in prison, he reportedly completed
cognitive programming and had a minor infraction for fighting over the use of a television with another
inmate. However, other than that, Gregory kept up a spotless prison record and kept away from

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violence and kept a low profile throughout his time behind bars. By the end of 2004, Gregory was still
openly blaming Tanya for her death. Can you imagine this? And he showed no significant progress in
gaining insight into his violent behavior. By this time, though, friends, family and even correction

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officers wrote letters to the parole board advocating for his release insisting that he had changed
and become very religious. Do y'all not hear that he's still blaming Tanya? Are you serious?
In November 2006, his parents said, quote, we believe Gregory is very sorry for what he did and has
gained insight into his behaviors. He has worked hard in prison and he continues to make a positive

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adjustment. Yeah, this is why he is the way he is. His parents let him get away with shit.
The whole boys will be boys, bull shit. Ma'am, your son bashed my son over the head because he
wouldn't let him choke his puppy. Oh, you know, boys will be boys. My son is a rampant,
punctuous boy. Your son should have let him hold the puppy. Have you ever been around that kind

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of parents? I know some of y'all have. If you have stories, let me hear them. But anyways, a lot of
times this is what the child turns into. I'm like, Miss Murderer's mama, did you not hear me say that
he's blaming Tanya for her murder? His mother, Tommy Lee Green said, quote, "I don't believe Gregory is

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a threat to society. I don't believe a long sentence will make him any better because he has
suffered already and he will continue to suffer the rest of his life." Where's the suffering? He's
still blaming someone else. Just going on here. I'm pretty sure Tanya's family is suffering and
they're going to suffer for the rest of their life. What are you talking about? Fred Harris,

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a pastor of Gregory's Before the Murderers wrote multiple letters to the Michigan parole board
on his behalf begging them to give him a second chance and promise in that the church will help in
his rehabilitation. "Gregarian, I were friends before his mishap and he was incarcerated. Wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, misshap? Did he call coal-blooded murder of a woman and an unboying child on mishap?

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Am I going crazy here? Okay, okay. Fred continues, "He was a member of our church. I feel he has
paid for his unfortunate lack of self-control and the damage he has caused as much as possible and
is sorry. Unfortunate lack of self-control? What in all the f*** is wrong with this man? Could understand

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seeing good in people, but this is kind of ridiculous. Despite completing several educational
and psychological programs, Gregory struggled to demonstrate genuine insight and remorse for his
actions. Parole board reports from 2004 and 2006 highlighted his ongoing issue with empathy and

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understanding the gravity of his crimes. However, by late 2006, there was a slight shift in Gregory's
perspective and he started to acknowledge that his past immaturity and started to acknowledge his
role in the actions that you don't murder. So because of this slight shift in 2008, the parole

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board made a turn decision and granted his release, lambs. They cited, quote, "reasonable assurance
that Gregory would not pose a menace to society or public safety as a key factor in their decisions.
Oh my god, stupid, stupid, stupid." His parole was granted despite previous denials because

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remember, he lacked empathy and what? Remorse. He had only served the 16 years before he was released
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On December 18, 2010, two years after his parole, Gregory, reminder he's a parold murderer,

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had moved to Ohio and married Faith Harris. Guess who she was? She was the daughter of Pastor Fred Harris.
Remember Pastor Fred? He was the one who said it was an unfortunate lack of self-control and called
murder a mishap? Yeah, well, he married his daughter off to parold murderer, Gregory. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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Faith had met Gregory at her father's church when she was only 14 years old and Gregory was 24.
Not that day tried anything or he even looked at her when she was 14, but I'm just giving you all
information on when she knew him. Now as a 14 year old, she did have a crush on Gregory. So when he
came back into her life, she still had that same schoolgirl crush on him. Even though she knew he'd

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been to prison and the reason why this didn't deter her. Pause here. Women, I'm talking to you.
We need to do better. Stop thinking we can change people. People only changed themselves.
You're not going to be that catalyst to change. Stop it. Now just like Tanya, Faith had two children

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from a previous marriage. Chandie, Alan, Jr. and Cara, Alan. Seems like Gregory has a tight.
During their six-year marriage, they had settled in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn Heights
and Gregory and Faith welcomed two more daughters, Koi and Kylie. Although life started out good,
by 2013, Gregory was up to his old antics and had started the same abuse as Faith as he had on Tanya.

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She described life with Gregory as being, "married but single."
Shoot, I know how that feels from my previous marriage. Highlighting his financial support,
but emotional absence and disinterest, particularly towards her older children.
Quote, "With Gregory, some days it was good, some days it was bad. He was often quiet and moody,

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and he never hit me. It was always verbal and mental torment." Just like Tanya, Faith had
reportedly tried to leave him multiple times and even filed for divorce that year. Faith even tried
to get a personal protection order against Gregory, which is a PPO, against Gregory in 2013.
She reported his abusive behavior, including threats and physical intimidation,

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such as kicking the couch while their baby was sleeping on it. She also said that one time,
Gregory told her, "Things are gonna get ugly if she doesn't leave the house." Actually,
here's the exact clip of what she wrote. Quote, "He's trying to make me leave our home. We're
filing for divorce. He's being belligerent, kicking things. He kicked the couch while the baby was

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sleeping on it. Just kicking things, threatening me and saying that if I don't leave, things are
gonna get ugly. Jumped at me like he was going to attack. This went on for hours."
Despite reporting these incidents, her request for a PPO was denied by then-judged Deborah Ross
Adams, due to "insufficient allegations." So now she's in her house just vulnerable once again.

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And my question is, what the actual- that wasn't enough? What allegations did they need about a
convicted murderer? And, and, side note, where's her father throughout all of this?
Still seeing the good in Gregory? So, with no other choice and obviously no support from her family,

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or at least her father, faith remained with her husband for another three years. But, by August
2016, she once again filed for divorce. However, in the early hours of September 21, 2016,
Gregory forcibly woke faith up and dragged her into the living room. She was confronted by the sight of

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her two eldest children, 19-year-old Chadney and 17-year-old Kara, both bound with zip ties. Gregory then
took them all to the basement where he tied faith to a chair using duct tape and zip ties. He then
shot her in the foot and sliced her face with a box cutter. Then, you thought that was bad.

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Then on top of all of that, he made her watch as he shot and killed his stepchildren. Where were
the other two children? His biological children? They were upstairs because Gregory had already murdered
them. Four-year-old Kylie and five-year-old Koi using carbon monoxide poisoning. He left the children

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in a car with the engine running and then later moved their lifeless bodies to their beds.
Oh my god. Just like 25 years before, Gregory calmly called a 911 to confess to the murders
and awaited the arrival of the police. He did the same thing he did before and showed them his work

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when they arrived. He was arrested and again charged with second-degree murder.
Why is this not first-degree murder? Can anybody tell me that? Let me know in the comments below.
Why is this not first-degree murder? Anyway, in 2017, Judge Dana Hathaway sentenced him.
Now, during the sentence in, "Faith delivered a heart-wrenching testimony of Gregory expressed in

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profound loss and enduring trauma from the events of September 21st." She told the court of the
horrific morning when her four children were brutally murdered by their father, describing the
overwhelming fear and trauma that still lingers with her to this day. "The one thing that I didn't
realize at the time that I found out after is that when you're preparing to leave, that's the most

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dangerous time, which I didn't even know. In my mind, I'm just preparing so I can save money and get
my kids out of there and get our own place, but I didn't know his mindset." Faith currently struggles
with post-traumatic stress disorder, migraines, and nightmares. "Sometimes I dream of the night
all this happened and wake up screaming and sweating, thinking that I can save my children somehow.

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Then I realize that the nightmares actually reality and that my children are really gone.
I try to find the strength to start my day somehow. There's no punishment that fits the crime.
Your justice will come when you burn in hell for all eternity." This is what she said.
To which he had the cajonis, the brass balls, the low-hanging fruit of a ton of balls he had to

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respond. "This is what Gregory Green said." "First of all, only God knows, only he can judge.
You know, I do regret and I'm sorry for what happened. However, all I ever wanted was a godfaring
and at that point they couldn't figure out what he said. I'm guessing he said woman or person

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or something, but it says inaudible." And he continues, "Was a godfaring woman?" I'm saying,
I'm putting in the word woman there to help me that would support me and be faithful no matter what.
End quote. This is what Gregory Green had the cajonis to say. And lambs, oh my god,
do you see that he is blaming her? Now look, me personally, at this point, I'm leaping over the

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divider, shot foot at all. I'm leaping over the divider. You gonna blame me for this? Are you serious?
And with faith, I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine what she's going through. I'm not even
letting it settle in my head because I already feel the tears wanting to come. So I'm not letting it
settle in my brain, but I just can't even imagine. But seriously, no lie, once he blamed me in court

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and had a rebuttal for what I just said to you, I'm losing all sense and I'm jumping over something
trying to, they're gonna catch me mid jump. They either gonna catch me or I'm gonna do a running
back move. I think that's the person in football where I'm gonna dodge everybody until I get to him.
During the sentences, Judge Dana Hathaway described Gregory's actions as quote, "inconsievable,

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emphasizing that fathers are meant to protect their children and husbands are meant to protect
their wives." So he was sentenced to 45 to 100 years in prison for multiple counts of second
degree murder plus six to 10 years for additional charges of torture and assault with intent to do
bodily harm. He would not be eligible for parole until the age of 97. Okay, why not the death sentence?

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Why does he get to live in prison eating, sleeping, working out, blaming her? I just, I don't understand.
Gregory had pled guilty to these charges as part of a sentence and agreement that avoided a trial.
This was so that the family wouldn't have to relive the details of the murders.

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Okay, I cannot judge faith for that. She didn't want to relive this, she didn't want to go
through the whole or deal again. I completely understand that. I mean, I guess technically,
he's never getting out. He can't even get parole until he's 97. I don't like it, but I guess.
The extended family and community expressed devastation with faith,

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detailing how her parents and other relatives were profoundly affected, struggling with their
own health and emotional well-being. I mean, I hear that, but also screw them. You advocated for
a murderer to get out. And this I'm basically just talking about her father because I don't know what
the others were doing. I'm literally just talking straight to her father. You advocated for a murderer

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to get out. You let him marry your daughter. Then you sat idly by and watched him abuse her for eight
years. Now you're struggling with your emotional well-being? Well, sit there, struggle then.
If you'd done something beforehand, you could have saved everyone involved.
Now, I know some people are going to tune out after my outburst, but I'm not sorry. This needed to be

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said. I hate when people sit by and let shit happen. And then after it's all said and done,
we're supposed to feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for faith. And I feel sorry for everybody behind
the scenes that had no that had no option but to watch this happen or they didn't even know what
was going on behind the scenes until it happens. Because you know some people put on a brave front

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and you just see a happy marriage so they didn't even know. Those are the people I feel sorry for.
But the ones who knew, namely her father, I feel no sorrow for. I especially feel sorry for faith.
She had to endure this alone alone. She struggled to get away this entire time. And where was

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everyone to help her correctly file the PPO or give her a place to stay or for sure to stay away
when she moved to your place temporarily? Like move her out of state far away making it difficult
for her to get back. Something. You know what I'm saying? No, don't tell me now that you're struggling
with your mental health. Screw that. And if you want to stop listening to me because of that,

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I understand. But I'm not going to let these people get away with that. I'm going to let you know
that I say, screw that. And speaking of the PPO, so remember the judge who turned down faith's PPO?
Well, she was ousted from office in June 2013 due to judicial misconduct surrounding faith's
divorce case. However, to play advocate here, a local lawyer named Arnold Reed, a local lawyer to

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Michigan's name Arnold Reed said that it should be noted that faith's protection order request
made no mention of Gregory having served time in jail for the murder of his first wife.
According to attorney Reed, the person requesting a PPO must present evidence against the person
they are trying to protect themselves against. Judges do not mandate that the subject of a PPO

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must be the subject of an investigation. He also said that judges choice might have changed if
he had been aware of Gregory's prior criminal history. So I mean, I guess, but at the same time,
they disbarred her or whatever you call it when you get rid of a judge. So if this was the reason

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and why she denied the PPO, then why did y'all disbar her? Now, aside note, let's talk about abuse a
little bit. Abusive relationships often begin very subtly, gradually escalating into more forms of
abuse, more outward forms of abuse. So it usually is kind of difficult for the person involved in it

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to actually recognize it. Victims may experience a range of abusive behaviors included being insulted,
controlled, or physically harmed by their partners. And remember, abuse is not only man on woman.
Anybody can be abusive. So don't ever think that it's just a man can only be abusive to a woman.

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But if a guy comes in and says, yeah, I got this black eye because my wife punched me into eye,
that y'all could just be like, well, you know, you could have taken her. Abusers may use tactics such as
monitoring phone calls, limiting your financial access, or using intimidation and threats to get
control over you. So your first thing is recognizing these patterns to understand that you're in

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abusive relationship to then go ahead and seek help or at least talk to somebody. And this is the
first step in getting away from an abusive relationship. Making a detailed escape plan is vital
for safely leaving an abusive relationship. And this plan can include identifying safe times and
methods for leaving such as when your abuser is not home and preparing a bag with essential items.

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Or you could just leave. Meaning, don't even pack the bag if you don't absolutely have to.
But I'm not the one to give you advice in that. Instead, if you are experiencing domestic violence,
call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 or go to the hotline.org. All calls are

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toll free and confidential. And the hotline is available 24/7 in more than 170 languages.
Once again, I am not the one to give you advice on how to leave an abusive relationship because I
am not a professional in that area. Instead, call this hotline 1-800-799-7233 or go to the hotline.org.

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And that is the case of Gregory Green, a man who was allowed to murder his family not once,
but twice. What do you think of this case, Lamb? Share your thoughts with me in the comments below. You
heard all my thoughts while I was going through this. And I probably lost listeners after that, but
it is what it is. If you have any details that I may have missed, like maybe you can tell me where

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her father was throughout all of this, please add them in the comments below. And speaking of comments
in last week's episode where we talked about the case of Leila Dorthe de Luce, which I have the
link in the show notes below, I did ask a poll question of, and I guess this kind of goes right
back into this episode, do you think that people who murder pregnant women should receive

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harsher punishments than those who do not? So for that question, 100% of y'all said yes.
And to me is you murdered two people. So yeah, I mean, murder is bad all around, but you murdered a
pregnant woman, especially, should it be even worse if it's someone who murdered their own child?

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Should it even be worse than that? If it was somebody who murdered their own child, this Gregory
Green. Let me know your thoughts and comments in the show notes below. And that is all I have for you
for this full episode of the week. This was a heavy one, and I am about to go and de-stress my brain

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because I can't, I just, I can't. And just to, you know, keep my mental health afloat, I gotta go
detox my brain now. So that's all I have for you. Make sure you share this episode. It is a free and
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