Product Chats Podcast
Pragmatic Live’s Product Chat is a podcast focused on tackling the biggest challenges facing today‘s product management, product marketing, and other market and data-driven professionals with some of the best minds in the industry.
Episodes
“How do we turn inspiration into real-world impact?”
In this episode, we are joined by Pragmatic Community leader Eddie Gordon to preview the upcoming Future of Product Management Summit—a free virtual event happening October 16 from 12–5 PM ET. Together, they explore the hottest topics shaping today’s product landscape, from the implementation gap to the role of AI and the ongoing challenge of alignment across teams and executive...
“Shifting from project thinking to product thinking is about creating long-term value, not just checking off deliverables.”
In this episode, we are joined by Thomas Hartmann, co-founder of the Product Masterclass and co-author of From Project to Product, to explore a problem plaguing most organizations: the transition from a project-centric model to a truly product-driven c...
“How do you turn overwhelming data into clear, actionable product decisions?” In this episode, we speak with Jordan Nolff, VP of Growth at Productboard, about the evolving role of AI and customer insights in modern product management. With a background that spans consulting, leading product growth at SurveyMonkey, and now scaling Productboard, Jordan brings a unique perspective on how PMs can transform information overload into st...
“If you have a body, you are an athlete.” In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris speaks with Tobie Hatfield, Senior Director of Athlete* Innovation at Nike, about the philosophy and practice of building inclusive, high-performance products. From his early days as a pole vaulter and coach to more than 35 years of innovation at Nike, Tobie shares how his athletic background and curiosity shaped his approach to product development.
“How do you keep human connection at the center of hybrid collaboration?”
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Norma Løvhaugen, VP of Strategy and Initiatives at Neat, to explore the future of video conferencing and the product strategies shaping it. With more than 20 years in the industry, including leadership roles at Cisco, Norma brings deep expertise in designing solutions that make meetings more authentic, s...
“Innovation thrives where creativity meets execution.”
In this episode, we sit down with Luke Des Cotes, leader of Metalab—the renowned product agency behind work for organizations like Uber and Midjourney. Luke shares how his creative roots shaped his entrepreneurial approach, and how Metalab turns bold ideas into market-ready products by blending research, design, engineering, and flawless execution.
From guiding startups to hel...
“Agile isn’t about following the rules. It’s about delivering real value together.” In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris speaks with Jenny Martin, seasoned facilitator, coach, and creator of the OOPSI framework. While Agile has transformed software development over the past two decades, many organizations struggle to scale it effectively or to see the benefits they were promised.
Jenny explains why so many teams fall into the t...
“If you don’t own your pricing strategy, you’re leaving money – and customers – on the table.”
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Marcos Rivera, founder of Pricing IO and author of Street Pricing, to unpack one of the most overlooked opportunities in SaaS: building a pricing strategy that matches the value your product delivers.
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“AI agents aren’t replacing humans—they’re freeing us to do more human work.”
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Dan Corbin, longtime Pragmatic instructor and AI course creator, to demystify one of the fastest-emerging technologies in product management: AI agents.
Dan explains what makes agents different from other tools like ChatGPT, why they matter, and how product and marketing teams can begin using them to...
“Value isn’t what you do. It’s what the customer gets.”
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris speaks with Mike Wilkinson, Value Sales Expert and Director at Axia Value Solutions, about what it really means to understand and communicate value in sales and why it’s essential for product managers, marketers, and sales teams to align around a customer-first mindset.
Mike introduces the “value triad”—revenue gain, cost reduction, and...
“Value only exists in the customer’s mind.”
In this episode we speak with Mark Boundy, founder of Boundy Consulting and author of Radical Value, about the single most important, but often misunderstood, concept in business: perceived customer value. Mark lays out a compelling argument that businesses must deliver outcomes customers care about and that true pricing power comes from helping customers quantify the results they’ll ach...
What if the key to great product management wasn’t certainty but your ability to navigate without it?
In this episode we sit down with Anuj Jhunjhunwala, Director of Product Management at Merge, to explore the often-overlooked realities of product leadership. From his early days in finance to shaping integration strategies at a fast-growing B2B startup, Anuj shares insights on thriving amid ambiguity, aligning roadmaps with realit...
How do you set the right price when AI is changing everything, except your customer’s expectations of value?
In this episode we are joined by Mark Stiving, pricing strategist, host of the Impact Pricing podcast, and original designer of Pragmatic Institute’s Price course. Mark shares how understanding customer value and willingness to pay can guide smarter product decisions and unlock revenue, whether you’re pricing traditional so...
What does it take to build AI-powered products that scale?
In this episode, we are joined by Jonathan Evens, Product Lead at Google DeepMind, to explore the evolving role of product management in the AI era. Jonathan draws from experience across startups and Big Tech, ranging from smart grid systems to LLM-powered search, to reveal how high-impact AI products come to life.
He breaks down DeepMind’s journey launching “AI Overviews”...
How have product teams transformed over the past 15 years and where are they headed next?
In this episode, we sit down with Andrew Saxe, VP of Product at Smartling, to explore the evolution of product leadership, AI integration, and the growing expectations of today’s enterprise customers. With three decades of experience, Andrew shares practical lessons from building smarter teams, scaling development, and making AI actually work...
What if your meetings could go from frustrating to high-functioning?
In this episode, we sit down with Douglas Ferguson, president of Voltage Control and author of The Magical Meeting, to explore why facilitation is an essential, and often underdeveloped, skill for product managers. Douglas shares how intentional meeting design, inclusive practices, and purpose-driven structure can turn routine meetings into game-changing moments ...
What happens when a great engineer becomes the boss?
In this episode, we sit down with Pete Steege, B2B growth strategist and founder of B2B Clarity, about the unique challenges faced by “accidental CEOs” – technical experts who find themselves in leadership roles without a roadmap. Drawing parallels to product managers (many of whom also come from technical backgrounds), Pete explores how engineering minds can shift from designi...
How do you go from strategy to better sales without getting stuck in planning mode?
In this episode, we sit down with Simon Severino, CEO of Strategy Sprints and a sales strategist who’s helped clients generate over $2 billion in revenue. Drawing from his background in psychology and two decades of experience, Simone shares his sprint-based framework that brings together product, marketing, and sales to make fast, high-impact decis...
What if you could predict consumer behavior—without running a single survey or focus group?
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Avi Yashchin, founder and CEO of Subconscious AI, to explore how synthetic respondents and causal AI are transforming the world of market research.
Avi shares how his background in high-frequency trading, behavioral economics, and product management at IBM Watson and Two Sigma led hi...
What does it take to move from product management into the CEO seat and thrive once you get there?
In this episode, we are joined by Marc Rubner, CEO of Building Intelligence, to trace his journey from marketing analyst to B2B product leader at American Express to top executive. Marc shares how product thinking gave him a head start in executive decision-making and prioritization but also where PMs often hit blind spots when trans...
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