You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.
Episodes
Chaplain, coach, and author Dean Abbott joins me for a thought-provoking conversation about the difference between healthy introspection and unhealthy rumination. Dean challenges a popular argument that therapy simply encourages people to think about themselves too much, making the case instead that people don't ruminate for fun — they ruminate because they're in pain and searching for something they've lost.
Together we ex...
Today I'm joined by Dr. Will Dobud, a social worker, researcher, and educator who has worked with adolescents and families across the United States, Australia, and Norway. Will is the co-author of Kids These Days: Understanding and Supporting Youth Mental Health, and he brings a refreshingly optimistic yet realistic perspective to the challenges facing today's young people.
We dig into some truly provocative territory in th...
Today I sit down with my friend Anita Bartholomew, a magazine journalist and author, to discuss her new book Sacrificial Lambs: Liberal Reporter Exposes How the Progressive Left Harms Children in the Name of Gender Ideology. This is Anita's second appearance on the show, and this time she walks us through the findings of her thorough investigation into how gender ideology functions as a predatory movement targeting today's...
Today I sit down with investigative reporter Benjamin Ryan, who was the only journalist present for the entirety of the historic Variant v. Einhorn trial — the first detransition malpractice lawsuit in the world to reach a jury verdict. Ben has been covering pediatric gender medicine for three years for outlets including the New York Times, NBC News, the New York Sun, and the Free Press, and he brings an extraordinary leve...
In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Michael Ziffra, a psychiatrist and associate professor at Northwestern University who specializes in anxiety disorders. Dr. Ziffra has been writing a Substack series called "Wise Mind in Anxious Times," exploring how we can better navigate the intersection of mental health and our turbulent political landscape.
We begin by discussing the alarming advice that made headlines—a Yale psy...
In this inaugural roundtable discussion, I dive headfirst into one of the most contentious topics at the intersection of faith and science: psychedelics and Christianity. As a relatively new Christian myself, I've been wrestling with what believers should think about these powerful substances—especially after interviewing guests whose lives were transformed by psychedelic experiences, including detransitioners who credit t...
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Today we were going to air the first “Psychedelics and Christianity” panel, but then a crisis hit our family: my husband fell and broke both bones in his left forearm, while rock climbing with our kids.
When I got his call from the ER, I was 2500 miles away, working remotely on ROGD Repair from a peaceful Airbnb in Holualoa, Hawaii, where I was recharging on a solo trip. Nee...
Social psychology expert Brant Elwood joins me to explore the fascinating and often troubling world of unconscious group dynamics. Brant brings a unique perspective, having spent four years as a field guide in wilderness therapy—accumulating over 10,000 hours working with small groups—before transitioning into organizational psychology and leadership consulting.
We dive deep into the phenomenon of scapegoating: why groups u...
Dr. Travis Morrell, chair of Colorado Principled Physicians and a senior fellow at Do No Harm Medicine, joins me to pull back the curtain on what he calls the "medical mafia"—the intricate web of organizations led by the American Medical Association that manufactures the illusion of consensus on controversial medical practices, particularly pediatric sex trait modification.
We explore how the AMA maintains its power despite...
Licensed clinical social worker Tammy Weitzman dedicated 23 years of her career to caring for cancer patients—from the moment of diagnosis through treatment, survivorship, and sometimes end of life. But her stellar track record as a source of comfort to ailing patients in their hour of need wasn’t enough for her to keep her job. Tammy’s story reveals how DEI ideology can infiltrate even the most sacred spaces in healthcare...
In the spirit of celebrating my first Christmas as a Christian, this week is the perfect time to share a delightful conversation I had with Chris Legg. As both a licensed professional counselor and the lead pastor of a church, Chris has a rare combination of expertise he describes as being "a bit of a unicorn." Chris is also the founding owner and clinical director of Alethia Family Counseling Center, which now operates si...
Today I’m joined by the founder of Detrans.AI, an innovative chatbot and data tool designed to amplify the perspectives of detransitioners. A young web developer from Wellington, New Zealand, Peter shares how his journey began with trying to understand a loved one, and how his search for answers led him to discover the largely silenced stories of those with transition regret.
We dive deep into the technical and ethical ...
Dr. Eithan Haim first became nationally known as the whistleblower on Texas Children's Hospital's secret pediatric gender program. After facing prosecution by the Biden Department of Justice and the prospect of ten years in prison, the surgeon was ultimately successful in his case and is now practicing medicine while continuing to expose ethical violations in pediatric sex trait modification.
Today, we dive deep into the in...
In this eye-opening episode, I sit down with Lucy Biggers, a former climate activist who has undergone a remarkable transformation. Lucy shares her journey from being deeply entrenched in climate activism and suffering from climate anxiety to becoming a voice of reason who now creates content to calm people's environmental fears.
We explore how documentaries like "An Inconvenient Truth" and her work at NowThis News shaped h...
In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Kathleen Mills, a licensed professional counselor and co-founder of the Association for Mental Health Professionals (AMHP). Together, we explore the seismic shifts happening in the mental health field and why so many therapists are feeling disillusioned with the profession's current direction.
Kathleen shares her journey from running a successful group practice for over 30 year...
In this deeply personal conversation, I welcome back Will Spencer to discuss our shared journeys to Christianity and the spiritual revival currently unfolding. We begin by connecting over musician Nick Mulvey's recent testimony of faith, which moves us both to tears as we recognize kindred spirits joining the Kingdom of God.
Will shares his journey from being what Carl Teichrib calls "Perennial Man" - traveling the world, ...
UPDATE: After escalating the issue several times and ways, Spotify FINALLY reinstated the missing episodes and added my podcast to their "allowlist" so my theme song won't be flagged again. However, I'm leaving this up to explain what happened; this issue is still affecting other podcasters, and the resolution process is deeply flawed. - Stephanie, late November 2025
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In this special public service announcement epis...
In this compelling follow-up conversation, I welcome back Jonathan Cogburn, a licensed marriage and family therapist from Texas, to explore a nuanced conservative perspective on mental health services in schools. While we've covered many concerns about ideological overreach in school counseling on this podcast, Jonathan makes a thoughtful case for why certain levels of mental health intervention are not just appropriate bu...
In this compelling conversation, I sit down with 21-year-old desister Simon Amaya Price, who identified as transgender from ages 14 to 17. Now serving as Outreach and Events Lead at the LGB Courage Coalition, Simon offers invaluable insights into why young people—especially those with autism—fall into gender ideology.
We explore the perfect storm of factors that led to Simon's trans identification: autism, bullying, sexual ...
In this groundbreaking episode, I introduce RepairBot: the world's first artificial intelligence chatbot specifically designed for parents navigating their child's gender identity questions. Trained on my ROGD Repair program, coaching transcripts, and even my own voice, RepairBot serves as a 24/7 support tool for parents of trans-identified adolescents and young adults seeking help navigating the tricky terrain of maintain...
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