You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.
Episodes
In this eye-opening episode, I sit down with Lucy Biggers, a former climate activist who has undergone a remarkable transformation. Lucy shares her journey from being deeply entrenched in climate activism and suffering from climate anxiety to becoming a voice of reason who now creates content to calm people's environmental fears.
We explore how documentaries like "An Inconvenient Truth" and her work at NowThis News shaped h...
In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Kathleen Mills, a licensed professional counselor and co-founder of the Association for Mental Health Professionals (AMHP). Together, we explore the seismic shifts happening in the mental health field and why so many therapists are feeling disillusioned with the profession's current direction.
Kathleen shares her journey from running a successful group practice for over 30 year...
In this deeply personal conversation, I welcome back Will Spencer to discuss our shared journeys to Christianity and the spiritual revival currently unfolding. We begin by connecting over musician Nick Mulvey's recent testimony of faith, which moves us both to tears as we recognize kindred spirits joining the Kingdom of God.
Will shares his journey from being what Carl Teichrib calls "Perennial Man" - traveling the world, ...
UPDATE: After escalating the issue several times and ways, Spotify FINALLY reinstated the missing episodes and added my podcast to their "allowlist" so my theme song won't be flagged again. However, I'm leaving this up to explain what happened; this issue is still affecting other podcasters, and the resolution process is deeply flawed. - Stephanie, late November 2025
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In this special public service announcement epis...
In this compelling follow-up conversation, I welcome back Jonathan Cogburn, a licensed marriage and family therapist from Texas, to explore a nuanced conservative perspective on mental health services in schools. While we've covered many concerns about ideological overreach in school counseling on this podcast, Jonathan makes a thoughtful case for why certain levels of mental health intervention are not just appropriate bu...
In this compelling conversation, I sit down with 21-year-old desister Simon Amaya Price, who identified as transgender from ages 14 to 17. Now serving as Outreach and Events Lead at the LGB Courage Coalition, Simon offers invaluable insights into why young people—especially those with autism—fall into gender ideology.
We explore the perfect storm of factors that led to Simon's trans identification: autism, bullying, sexual ...
In this groundbreaking episode, I introduce RepairBot: the world's first artificial intelligence chatbot specifically designed for parents navigating their child's gender identity questions. Trained on my ROGD Repair program, coaching transcripts, and even my own voice, RepairBot serves as a 24/7 support tool for parents of trans-identified adolescents and young adults seeking help navigating the tricky terrain of maintain...
In this powerful episode, I sit down with Elspeth Cypher, a retired judge and board secretary for the Women's Liberation Front (WoLF), to discuss the critical legal battles being fought to protect women and girls' rights. We dive deep into the shocking reality of male prisoners being transferred to women's facilities, where Elspeth reveals that 57% of trans-identifying males in prison have been convicted of sexual offenses...
In this episode, I speak with Lynn Chadwick, founder of Themis Resource Fund, about her deeply personal journey from devastating parental estrangement to purposeful advocacy. Lynn opens up about losing contact with all three of her children to trans ideology and how she nearly lost herself in the process. We explore the critical distinction between activism and family relationships—when fighting the broader culture war can...
What might lead an adventurous spiritual seeker to renounce psychedelics, repent for his colorful past, and accept Jesus Christ as his lord and savior? In this powerful episode, I sit down with evangelist, podcast host, and men’s work facilitator Will Spencer to explore his remarkable journey from New Age seeker to committed Christian. Will shares his background as an underground house music DJ who spent decades exploring ...
Just days after Charlie Kirk's assassination, I sit with Texas Marriage and Family Therapist Jonathan Cogburn for what becomes a profound exploration of faith, courage, and finding hope in dark times. Jonathan shares his journey from being apolitical to openly identifying as conservative, inspired by brave voices who showed him there's nothing shameful about his beliefs.
We dive into systems theory concepts like pursuer-dis...
Scottish poet and writer Jenny Lindsay's artistic career was derailed when she spoke out against the violent tactics used by gender identity activists. Today, Jenny is the author of "Hounded: Women, Harms and the Gender Wars," and her story illustrates what she calls the "secondary harms" of gender ideology - the ripple effects that occur when competent voices are silenced through systematic harassment campaigns.
We explore...
In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Nathalie Martinek, a former developmental biologist turned expert on narcissism and toxic workplace dynamics. We delve into the complexities of interpersonal narcissism, exploring how our behaviors often stem from a desire to preserve our ideal self-image. Nathalie shares her journey from the world of science to understanding human behavior, highlighting the paralle...
In this episode, I have the pleasure of welcoming back two incredible guests, Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, both of whom are seasoned therapists and passionate advocates for mental health. We dive deep into the nuances of mentorship and the importance of genuine relationships in our professional lives. As we explore their unique friendship, I’m reminded of the value of having mentors who challenge us to grow and...
Jessi Harris spent three decades living as a “trans man” before ultimately detransitioning. Her story is a powerful exploration of survival, discrimination, and the complex landscape of gender identity in late 20th-century America.
What happens when the path you choose to escape discrimination becomes its own form of constraint? How do you make amends after years of unintentionally hurting those closest to you? Jessi's narr...
While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of The Therapy Show with Lisa Mustard, which she has graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, Practical Strategies for Supporting Parents in Gender Distress Cases with Stephanie Winn, LMFT and it was originally released on Lisa’s sho...
While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some other great content created by my friends and colleagues. It’s my pleasure to share with you this audio essay by Maia Poet. It’s called Trans: When Coping Mechanism Becomes Identity; "When an Identity Takes Root"-- Gender Identity Ideation series, part 1. It was originally published on Maia’s Substack on April 22, 2025. Ma...
While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Inciteful Sisters, which the hosts Jane and Bex have graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, episode 14: Stephanie Winn and the ROGD Repair Kit. It was originally released on Inciteful Sisters on May 1, 2025. Check out Inciteful ...
While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Resistance Radio, which the host Derrick Jensen has graciously agreed to let me borrow. It was originally released on Resistance Radio on February 12, 2024. Derrick has also appeared on my podcast on episode 106. Earth Day with Derrick Jensen: on E...
While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Blended - Navigating the Blended Family Experience, which the host Jeremiah Wallace has graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, When Affirmation Goes too Far - with Stephanie Winn. It was originally released on Blended on August ...
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