340B Unscripted

340B Unscripted

Pharmacists and healthcare industry leaders Rob ‘Hoopi’ Nahoopii PharmD, MS, ACE and Greg Wilson PharmD, BCPS, ACE dive deeply into the complicated and contentious 340B Program as well as other pressing Pharmacy matters. Special guests and industry experts pop in frequently to add insights from all sides of the discussion. If you serve in the pharmacy sector, this podcast is a must-listen!

Episodes

June 16, 2025 32 mins

In this episode, Greg and Rob catch up on developments in the 340B space. They chat about new information provided by CMS for pharmacies related to the Medicare Drug Price Negotiation Program (some helpful links are below). Also, they debate about what might be coming with the widely anticipated 340B rebate model guidance.

CMS Medicare Transaction Facilitator (MTF) User Guide: https://www.cms.gov/files/document/negotiation-program-...

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This week's episode is a quick one. We pushed out this episode expecting to have HRSA guidance on rebate models to discuss, but we'll have to wait for that topic another day! Greg and Rob catch up on a few developments in the 340B news cycle, primarily recapping HRSA's first final agency action taken in the context of 340B ADR claims.  

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May 12, 2025 71 mins

In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by guest Peggy Tighe, healthcare attorney and government relations specialist. They catch up on lots of contemporary issues impacting 340B providers, including state legislative activity (19:44), the recent Trump Administration’s executive order on drug pricing (30:02), Senator Cassidy’s 340B investigation report (43:20), and movement in 340B rebate litigation (52:00).   Also, listen for Dav...

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In this week’s episode, Greg and Rob are joined by colleague Heidi Larson to recap lots of questions that came out of a recent SpendMend webinar focused on 340B location issues. They’ll address issues like what is considered onsite vs. offsite for the purposes of OPAIS registration, when newly registered locations are eligible to use 340B and a variety of other issues pertaining to how entities need to address their locations from ...

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In this episode, Rob and Greg review tips and tricks for maintaining a covered entity’s registration on the OPAIS database. Failure to keep an up-to-date and accurate listing on OPAIS can result in audit findings, and may warrant a corrective action plan with HRSA. The guys will cover some of the common compliance pitfalls with keeping an accurate record on this website. Megan from the team chimes in, too, with some tips for grante...

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March 24, 2025 61 mins

In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by Meetali Desai, a pharmacy business leader for a large health system in New England, to discuss thoughts around projecting the impact that IRA-mandated Medicare drug prices will have on 340B covered entities, which will go into effect in January 2026. Meetali shares her approach to quantifying the impact a 340B provider might feel from the intersection between these two federal programs. S...

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In this week’s episode, Greg and Rob recap lessons learned from the recent 340B Coalition Winter Conference in San Diego. They’ll share commentary that was circulating regarding HRSA audit trends, 340B rebate models, Inflation Reduction Act impact on budgets, contract pharmacy developments and some insights on what to watch for out of Washington D.C.

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February 24, 2025 60 mins

On this episode, Rob and Greg are joined again by healthcare attorney Emily Cook. Emily shares some insight into CMS Provider Based Rules and how 340B covered entities need to be thoughtful about where these rules intersect with various 340B Program initiatives, including new outpatient service implementation, referral capture and pharmacist-driven medication management models.

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In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined again by Jeff Davis, healthcare attorney, to catch up on various court action impacting the 340B community. With so many 340B Program elements hung up in litigation, it's challenge to keep tabs on what has been happening. Jeff will recap key appellate court decisions on manufacturer-implemented restrictions of contract pharmacies, discuss the merits of litigation challenging state legislativ...

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In this week’s episode, Greg and Rob catch up on newsworthy developments in the 340B community. They’ll discuss various state and federal legislative developments, they’ll share how recent White House executive orders, including a pause on federal agency communications and grant funding freezes, may be impacting 340B providers, and they’ll offer some commentary on HHS Secretary confirmation hearing debate.

Catch us at the 340B Coal...

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In our first episode of 2025, Greg and Rob discuss the latest developments in 340B. They’ll recap HRSA audit trends, discuss how Congressional committee membership seems to be forming, and discuss a variety of 340B provisions being litigated in court.

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December 17, 2024 62 mins

In our last episode of 2024, Greg and Rob recap major developments in the 340B space from the last year.  They’ll start with trends in HRSA audit activity, including thoughts on patient definition. They’ll address a variety of manufacturer developments, from contract pharmacy restrictions to manufacturer audits to proposed 340B rebate models. They end with a forecast of what to watch for in 2025

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December 2, 2024 51 mins

In this week’s episode, Greg and Rob cover the recent policy notice put out by Sanofi regarding a 340B credit model. They discuss how it compares to other proposed credit/rebate models, and more importantly how this one is unique.

In the intro, the guys recap developments in Washington D.C., as well as some updates in court action amongst HRSA, covered entities and manufacturers regarding audit activity.

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In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by Rodney Whitlock, healthcare policy expert, to discuss the recent 2024 election results.    They’ll discuss what the second Trump Administration might prioritize in terms of healthcare policy, how a Republican-controlled Congress will impact 340B legislation activity, and whether or not any developments coming out of the upcoming lame-duck session might be on the horizon for 340B providers...

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In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by Mike Strazzella, government affairs expert from Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney, to discuss the upcoming general election, and what races may be critical to future 340B policy developments. They’ll discuss Senate and House races that could precipitate leadership changes in Congressional committees that drive legislative work, debate what a future Harris or Trump administration means for h...

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October 14, 2024 58 mins

In this episode, Greg and Rob discuss the various uses of 340B billing modifiers. They’ll discuss some general considerations around what billing modifiers are used for, highlight differences between hospital/clinic and pharmacy billing in terms of applying correct modifiers, and debate different aspects of Medicaid and Medicare billing modifier requirements.  It’s another heavy duty 340B-operations focused episode. 

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In this episode, Greg and Rob get back to 340B basics and have a conversation around the concept of “clean site” 340B-only locations.  They discuss what “clean site” means in the world of 340B, what the benefits of the approach are, what some of the risks and obstacles are from a compliance perspective, and share some anecdotes from past experiences working with these types of 340B universes.

In the intro, the guys discuss a couple...

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In this episode, Greg and Rob catch up on developments surrounding the J&J 340B rebate proposal, including HRSA’s response. They’ll address some outstanding questions from the recent SpendMend webinar on the topic.

In the intro, they recap some updates regarding contract pharmacy litigation and thoughts on how DSCSA and product serialization data might impact 340B operations.

If you missed it before, you can watch our webinar o...

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In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by healthcare attorney and 340B veteran Barbara Straub Williams.  They cover a variety of topics, including an update on litigation targeting state-level contract pharmacy laws (21:18), navigating manufacturer audits and ADR claim submissions (38:47), a recent court ruling related to exclusion of Section 1115 wavier days from DSH percentage calculations (50:53), and last but not least a rece...

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In this episode, Greg and Rob are joined by healthcare attorney Todd Nova to discuss a proposed rule change put forth by CMS in 2023 regarding the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program (MDRP), which includes a potential change to the definition of “covered outpatient drug”. They’ll discuss how covered entities have historically interpreted the definition of covered outpatient drugs, and what impact might come from CMS’s proposed change in t...

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