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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Monday edition, we look back at the NFL Draft.
What an event, what a spectacle. We're going to talk
about some of the moves that were made, the landing spots,
the decisions, whether or not an owner was involved in one.
Why was a punter taken in the fourth round when
you only had five picks in total in the draft.
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We're also gonna have a conversation about the Minnesota Vikings
in Minnesota sports in general. They are humming after the
Timberwolves get past the Suns and sweep them into the
next round, but get dealt a little bit of bad news.
We're also going to get an update on Lee's weekend.
We're gonna have another edition of In case you missed it.
We've got an FSR IR and we've got you one
of you out. It's all yours coming up next here,
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe on a Monday,
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Give this you're listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Radio anyway, we go on a Monday morning, Two Pros
and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn
Jonas Knox with you here. No LeVar Arrington again. You
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go sub eighty percent on your mock draft, you get suspended.
So a one show suspension for going under eighty percent
on his mock draft for all seven rounds on the NFL.
Uh yeah, we'll go with that one. You know, we'll
make something up for hour two and then we'll you know,
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Speaker 3 (01:55):
Just try to take in the draft. I mean, it's
there's so many interesting take ways. Obviously after free agency,
now after the draft, I think every fan out there
has an idea of like, where their teams at their
chance of winning a Super Bowl this year. Obviously a
lot of time until the season starts, but I gotta
tell you, I I kind of fed off some of
your enthusiasm for the draft.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It's it's such a cool event. It's such a neat
experience even to go through it.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But looking back on it now, just it's the most
unique draft and an event. I think there is a
professional sports and no one does it better than the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
No bust them.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I think the final tallly was just under eight
hundred thousand fans showed up.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, that's amazing, man.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Because you really do combine the best of both worlds.
If the NFL is king and college football second, it's
it's the one event where they're all together at the
same time, and you kind of you kind of mix
both those audiences in. But just the NFL's idea on
moving this thing around, and you know, going from New
York and all that, and I know, you know, you
guys like the tradition of New York. I've always liked
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the draft because it just gave everybody hope. They're like,
all right, we may have sucked last year, but you
know there's some hope here. And then just to see
what it's turned into. When we were in Vegas for
the Draft, a couple of years ago, you've been to
a bunch of drafts, and it just to be there
and to see what it's turned into from all these
years later. And it just gets bigger and better every
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single year. And then next year, if I'm not mistaken,
it's Green Bay, correct, I think it's in grievance next year.
So that's going to be that's going to be pretty
wild as well too. So good times, good times to
be had at the draft. I mean, look, I just
I would appreciate it personally if we could just skip
past the whole international Fan of the year reading the
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pick for some of these guys. That part really bothers me.
It really bo It's like these guys are supposed to
take in the moment, the biggest moment of their career,
of their life. They've worked so hard to get up
to this point. They're gonna get their name called and
get drafted, and it's some goofball wearing all team uniforms.
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Like they had a guy who was dressed up in
suspenders with a cheese hat on because he was representing
the Packers, some guy from like London or someplace like that.
You got like this other guy like representing the Bears,
some slob. He comes out there and like a Jack
Sanborn Jersey and he starts reading off the pick in
the fourth round. We don't we give them games, all right.
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They get their games, all right, they get a few
a year. We just don't need these guys walking up
there looking like looking like dummies, you know, reading off
these picks because they're half in the bag. I think
it's a bit insulting, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
See, you don't think that's part of them trying to
you know, spread the uh, the game internationally, and that's
part of their little I don't know, try trying to
dig in to spread the game.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean, it isn't isn't them getting a game enough?
Do we have to reward the fans by getting up
there to read these picks? You know, like somebody's gonna
screw something up? And then it turns into like some
professional wrestling event where they're calling out the opposing fan
base and this and that. It's like, dude, just let
these guys enjoy their moment. Can we get somebody with
some credibility up there to read these pics?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's all, wow, yeah, okay, that's how you feel about it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I think what's interesting is I've never actually asked an
international fan that is a fan of the NFL, like,
do you watch the Draft? I mean, I think we
all understand they're gonna watch the Super Bowl. They might
even attend the game that's over in London or overseas
that's over in Europe, right, But do you actually watch
the draft?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean, that's the next step of really gaining the
intrigue of it, because it's not like, as they would say,
it's not like they watched university. You know, they're not
watching college football mostly, although college football is trying to
you know, create it's it's footprint over there. Yeah, clearly,
we went to Ireland last year. We saw that firsthand.
Are we going back this year?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I don't know. You know, who doesn't seem.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Like there's a given the hoops through the chill through
last year, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of
momnimal us going back this year.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I mean it's either that or maybe we're not getting
invited back. You know, you know, we could we could
have done some damage out there and maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Somebody were damn bar It was a great time, but
it was by a couple of rounds there.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It was a lot more exmitsive than I anticipated.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I do appreciate the fact that if if somebody offers
you a beer at ten in the morning and you
say no, they look at you like you're the weirdo.
I do appreciate that that like, you're the one who's
got the issue, not me having a beer or my
second beer at ten in the morning. It's you who's
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got the problem. It's like, okay, well, I mean it's
it's two o'clock in the morning back home. You know,
it's not exactly the time I want to have a guinness,
But you know, you have fun and you tear it
up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I do.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
When it comes to the draft and just sort of
the you kind of pointed this out. It did feel
like there there's not as many guys going to the draft,
like it did feel like there wasn't that the green
room wasn't as packed. It wasn't And I'm just wondering,
with it being in Green Bay next year, is this
gonna I mean, are we gonna see the numbers dwindle
even more? Like maybe that maybe these places aren't quote
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unquote cool enough for him for some of these players
to go get drafted there, because if you're the guy
getting drafted by the team hosting the draft, it's awesome.
It's like Arnold for Alabama who went and got drafted
by the Lions in the first round. That was awesome.
So if you're one of these guys that gets drafted
by the Packers next year, they're gonna roll out the
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red carpet and you're gonna be celebrated onlike anybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So let's just talk about the quarterbacks, because we had
six go in the top twelve picks, and if I'm
not mistaken, were the top three all.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
At the draft?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Obviously was yes, I believe Jane Daniels was, and Drake
May was and Drake May was yeah, And I think
that's a lot to do with the fact that we
anticipated all three of those going one, two, three. You know,
if you look at how the draft, even back when
I'd went, you know, there was five of us and
I hadn't met with the team outside the top ten,
and obviously all those guys went inside the top seven.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So that was kind of the mold or model, if
you will, is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
They anticipated having you know, a group of guys they
all thought were going in the top ten, and I
think if you look at the quarterbacks, for example, Michael
Pennix Junior, who ended up going to eight, probably the
biggest surprise of the draft. JJ mccarthury ends up going
what tenth, I think, right, the Jets traded out that
spot and then you had the Broncos who took Bonix.
All three were somewhere else, and the reason being is
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there was speculation, wild speculation over where any of them
would go. So I think that lends a little bit
of an understanding to being someone who's been there and
who's gone through sitting in the green room and having
to wait and having a camera on you is when
you do fall like that's what you signed up for.
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You signed up for the exposure to They're going to
talk about it and they're gonna put you on camera.
It's one of the storylines. You know, for this year,
maybe it wasn't quite as big of a storyline because
if Michael Pennix or Bo Nix, or maybe Jaj McCarthy,
if he would have dropped further than where he went,
maybe people would have made a bigger story about it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But none of that really happened this year.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I mean, the one that I think was most surprising
to me was Spencer Ratler, who I didn't think he
was going to be a first round pick. I thought
he maybe could be a second third round pick. The
fact that he dropped to where he did was what
was really surprising. To be taken in the fifth round.
That was somewhat shocking given his talent level and what
he put on tape. I did not think he'd go
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that late in the draft. So it lends you a
little bit of an understanding of this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's a big event, and no one wants to be
that guy.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Some of the guys are concerned or scared of being
put in a position where they may be criticized and
maybe on camera a lot, And that's their own prerogative, right,
It's their own opportunity to do it. At the end
of the day, you're just blessed to be able to
have a chance to get draft in the NFL and
go play a game for your first true professional job, right,
not like the Bogie in or Hollister or Embassy suites
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back in the day.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Some of my former employers before I, before I actually
got in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, man, you working at a Hollister, It's just a
wonderful tale like that. That really is something. Did you
get any free like clothes or outfits or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
They give you a discount, You get a discount.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But that's the thing is you quickly realize after the
first time when you buy, because you have to wear
their clothes and you work there, they give you this
really big discount, and then you realize, like, my entire
paycheck just went to what I'm wearing at work, Like
it's just because you turned right back around and buy
that stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was a terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
On the Spencer Rattler stuff. How about the crap that
came out and Ian rapt before couldn't even I think,
understand it himself. That the reason the thought was that
he dropped as far as he was because we were
talking on Friday and the Raiders were picking at forty
four in the second round and we were thinking, okay,
that could be a landing spot. I think it was
one of our over unders as well too. As to
where he went so to drop all the way down.
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Ian Rappaport said that he talked to a number of
NFL teams, and they said the way that he was
depicted and the way that he came across on the
QB one show from Netflix was part of the reason
why teams wanted to potentially steer clear of him. That
came out when he was seventeen. It was six years ago,
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and teams didn't like the way he was portrayed in
QB one and that's part of the reason why he dropped.
What are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's obviously odd that a team, you'd think that they
do their due diligence to look at the player, look
at who he is now. I do wonder if that
was a convenient excuse, and maybe some of the teams
that did do some of the work on him felt
like there was still some of that. Oklahoma felt like
there was still some of that of South Carolina. It's
hard to ultimately know. Obviously that's you know, their own
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team's prerogative, but that's a learning lesson. I think for
a lot of young men out there is everything you
do is being monitored.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
They look at the tweets.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I think they said from these kids up through junior
high and as much as we would scrutinize teams for
that being something that made them hesitant of, you know,
drafting Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
The second they draft Spencer Rattler and that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Clip comes out, the team, the coach, the general manager,
they're all they have to talk about it, like that
stuff's out there publicly. So that's what you're drafting when
you draft him. Is even though we say it's six
years ago, is when he was seventeen. He's grown up,
He's matured a lot since then. They're still going to
have to answer for it. As much as like we
want to, we want to fault the NFL evaluators, uh,
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you know, and the and the fun office execs and
people who might have said this is it's we're also
part of the reason for that. Like we're just as
much to blame for how we are as a society
because we bring that stuff back up. There's a never
ending search of it. So again, I hated it for
him because again I thought he was a really talented player,
and I still think he's in a great spot if
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he gets his opportunity in New Orleans to see what
that might look like. But these teams will comb through
every little piece of information they can to try to
reduce their risk of bringing a guy that was portrayed
and not a great light. And you know that was
his choice. He was on that show. And again, I
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know he's grown up a lot since then. But maybe
they felt like there was some of that Oklahoma and
some about South Carolina.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
We don't know what they found out.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
We can only speculate at this point, but it's it's
tough for these young men to live in an era
where everything you do is now scrutinized for the time
year was sixteen seventeen, moving on.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Isn't that part of the reason why you shouldn't do
a reality show?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Like that's one of the biggest that's one of the
quarterbacks want to sign up for in the end in
the Netflix series, I.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Want to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Want no part of that. Like, listen, you're celebrity, all right,
Brady Quinn's a celebrity, all right. Your wife con your
wife is an Olympian, the Great Alicia Sacramony. Like I mean,
you guys, you guys are tailor made to be a
reality show. But no, not interested. Rather keep some of
this stuff private and not have a camera follow you
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around and by the way a lot of these reality
shows and the people behind the reality shows, doesn't it
always end up turning into disaster, Like somebody's always got
that something on you, Like, I don't know what the
divorce rate or the breakup rate is on some of
these reality show couples and marriages that go on television
and have cameras follow them around, But it is a disaster.
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And Spencer Rattler just had to wait an extra day
and a half because the way he was depicted when
he was a teenager on a Netflix show kind of
wild man, like the background checks that they've done, but
away we go. What would it cost, like how much
if somebody offered you a certain amount, what would be
your number to do reality show?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I don't know if there's a price, I mean honestly,
Like it's just you wouldn't want you'd have to full
control of editing, like all those things that you know
no one would ever give up. You know, most of
these people who do these reality TV shows, they want
the final say so they can create the storylines, they
can create the drama, and that's why.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It would just never work.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I do sometimes feel like it would be beneficial to
pay for a camera crew to follow my family only
so we could.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Be like, whoa pause, all right, let's go back and
watch this on replay, and then you actually like talk through.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
A scenario or like an argument or fight, and you're like,
you know, you said, I said this, no idea, and
you're like, no, no, pause, all right, let's go to
the camera crew and.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
We go back. Yeah, we break it back down.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You're like, all right, see you said this. Now I'm
gonna fast forward a little bit here. Okay, stop, this
is where you made this face. And this is where
I was then like, oh that's what. Okay that because
it means something different when you say it, and you
say it with that face, with that attitude, right, and
that's what really triggered me to start arguing with you.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's I don't know that would.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Be I think the most useful part of having a
camera follow you around is you could literally be able
to kind of pick apart your life like that eye
in the sky.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Like football, and draw it out on the screen like
shallow with arrows and circles. And this is where it happened.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Literally have the whole team and the family room have
like a chalkboard up there and be like, all right,
here's where we need to get better.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Let's go back to the tape. Now.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That is a good good delights, that is a good move.
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
Can you feel it?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Brady?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
No, I cannot.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
What about now?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Are you sure you can't feel it?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
What are we what were supposed to be feeling? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Lee's feeling to be wearing sunglasses inside listening.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Did we have a good weekend?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I think he did, feeling good.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
About the something else.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
By the way, it should be mentioned two pros and
a cup of Joe here, Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox with you. It should be mentioned also, Uh,
it is a lovely day for somebody else here at
Fox Sports Radio. Our Lord and Savior Scotchip here or
our boss, a long suffering Minnesota sports fan, the Tea
Wolves are back baby a clean sweep. They dominated Phoenix
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in that series, and they are onto the next round.
And of course, as luck would have it, because it
is Minnesota, and because they've had a bad, bad string
of seasons, and the championship drought continues on. Even when
they do win an advance in a sweep, which I
believe is the first sweep in the history of Minnesota sports.
No franchise in the city has ever completed a four
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game sweep. Even when that happens, their coach ruptures his
potel attendant in a collision with Mike Conley last night
during the game, So I don't know the recovery time
on that. But I don't know the last time I've
heard a coach getting ripped apart during a game on
the NBA sideline. That's normally like a football thing, or
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we've seen it happen in football before. But even when
good things happen to Minnesota, bad things are right around
the corner. That's about So you just want to mention
congratulations to everybody who's haid to us sit through a
lot of bad basketball and bad teams and high draft picks.
But Anthony Edwards is a stud. That dude is a
stud and he's fun to watch. Lee's also happy. And
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I didn't even put this together until Lee sent me
a text on Saturday and just said nice. And I
look at the text and Lee, who was your favorite
draft pick of the weekend?
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Evan Williams to the packers, Yeah, woo, No, it's Jersey
I'm buying.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I didn't even know, so I didn't even know what
Evan Williams was. I've never drank it. I've never had it.
And I think it was when we were we were
in Ireland and Lee was like, oh, yeah, you know,
I wish it would have brought my mini bottles or
he made some comment about that, like it's to go
bag of mini bottles from the liquor store. And I
(20:39):
was like, what's your go to? Did you get like
some Jack Daniels. I'm not paying that extra dollar? What's
the other option? Evan Williams?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Baby?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, what is Evan Williams about?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
A buck fifty?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's like and it's like some like knockoff?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Is it a whiskey, It's.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
A bourbon, it's from Kentucky. Uh, it's gets a bad rap.
He gets a bad rap, but it's it's just as good,
if not better than JD.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But how much cheap were we talking?
Speaker 7 (21:09):
JD's two fifty for the for the air airflight shot now.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Saving a dollar right there.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
With the Seagrams, you get the Seagrams and Evan Williams.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
And so of course the packers would draft Oregon Safety. Yes, uh,
you got you the way you're getting the jersey right, well,
you know Williams.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
No, I'm not gonna get Evan Williams because it's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Really the whole name on the back Williams.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Why not? It is too generic of a name. Oh,
by the way, I saw a jersey. There's some Kings fan.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Made a jersey.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I can't even say it on the air, like there's
no way around it. I'm trying to think how I'll
just I'll put it this way. The last name was meov, Yes,
and then you can kind of insert whatever whatever word
you went in front of that. Eddie Garcia. You've got
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a real classy fan base by the way that they're
rolled around with those jerseys. And then number sixty nine.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Yeah, but well it was creative. The last part of
the name was ov like the Russian like you know
that kind of feder off you know, O V.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So that was creative, Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
So I heard that fan was escorted out of the
building up.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Was he really?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
God forbid. A creativity just gets dismissed nowadays.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Did you mention the number, by the way, Yeah, I
appreciate artist artists any more, do we?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean, that's an NFL artist if you will.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Yeah, he paid big money for that to be made.
That's kind of the shocking thing, right that if you
go to like most official websites and you try to
get a custom jersey, if you put in something offensive,
it won't They won't make it right then won't do it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh yeah, And so he somehow.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
He got away around algorithm.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You know the people fanatics are like that bastard. He
got us. There's another one off the list. It is
two Pros and a cup of Joe. By the way,
coming up here in a little over fifteen minutes from now,
you're going to hear one of the great breakdowns of
a city and a team and a fan base that
you will ever hear. It's yours again. A little over
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fifteen minutes from now. Also to be mentioned, Minnesota, they've
got a brand new quarterback. JJ McCarthy's the guy. JJ
McCarthy will be under center for the Vikings next year
as he start day one? Or does Sam Darnold get
the gig.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That's a good question because they don't have to start
him day one if they don't feel like he's ready
to start day one. However, I do think he probably will.
He's a smart young man. He's you know, running an
NFL system during his time in Michigan. The question just
becomes like, do they feel like he's made the steps
to be able to do that? So's that's probably the
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second biggest question I think that they need to answer
before the season starts.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
There's still one big one lingery out there.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
That's right, and the GM of the Minnesota Vikings, Questia
Dolpha Mensa, spoke about the potential of getting a Justin
Jefferson contract done before the season. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (24:24):
Either way, whenever we signed him, we want Justin to
have his whole week. You know that friend that has
a birthday that takes the month. I think Justin would
deserve his whole month if we signed a contract to
celebrate it. So you know, we're excited to work towards it.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
We're going to keep going.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
And you can't have all these plans when we talk
about the visions and not talk about that the King lynchpin.
So we're going to keep working towards that end goal.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
So when you see all the receivers getting deals, do
you think the Vikings front office is like, come on, man,
can we just slow it down a little bit?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Here?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Like this is getting more expensive and more expensive every
single day, and it's just the price tag is only
going to go up up, But he's gonna get me.
He'll be the highest paid receiver in football and they're
going to lock him up. But this idea that I
even saw somebody throw it out there, could they potentially,
if they wanted to move far enough in the draft,
could they include Justin Jefferson in a deal?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Absolutely not. He's the best receiver in football and with
that supporting cast around JJ McCarthy. It's why he was
telling everybody, like his coaches people at Michigan. I think
Sharon Moore even said he saw the talent and the
weapons around him to lock Justin Jefferson up is going
to make his life a whole lot easier there in Minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, he's the type of player that, not that it's
going to matter now for his rookie deal because these
are slotted, but I would imagine JJ McCarthy, even when
he gets his second deal. Maybe I'm wrong, but I
would imagine he'd be the type to take a discount
to allow there to be more cap space for other
players around him. He just he kind of gives off
that personality, you know, falling in the footsteps of a
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guy like Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Who goes to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
There's a lot of that when you talk to them
about the team and everything that you know he really
cares about ultimately. So this is a move that I
think if you look at the cap ramifications of Kirk
Cousins moving on in free agency, Daniel Hunter moving on
in free agency, and what the Minnesota Vikings were able
to save in replacing on with JJ McCarthy at quarterback
and Dallas Turner in the first round at the edge.
(26:24):
They're paying both those guys over the next four years. Okay,
this does not include their fifth year options for either player,
but they're paying them roughly a little less over four
years than what Daniel Hunter is going to make as
far as the cap hit this year, obviously well below
what Cousins is gonna make this year. That's the crazy
(26:47):
thing is you got two players to replace two you lost,
and over the next four years they're cheaper than those
two players that just signed in free agency. So that
allows for you to have that sort of space to
sign Justin Jefferson to this monster deal. That to your point,
you know, he may be the highest paid wide receiver
(27:09):
for a period of you know, in time, but it
could get passed by Ceedee Lamb depending on what Ceedee
Lamb does his deal. Because these guys have been one
upping each other wide receiver contract announcement after wide receiver
contract announcement.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
But again doing a game last.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Year, talking to that staff, talking to you know, Kevin O'Connell,
they understand they have the best wide receiver on their roster.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
They fully are aware of that.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
They understand the importance of getting an extension done with
him and what he means to that team and what
he's going to mean to to Jaj McCarthy, taking pressure
off of him and.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Their win total over under six and a half on DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I mean I'm taking the over.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I would take the over too. I think the tough
thing is is you know that there's two Bears games
that you probably chalked up his winnable games now look
much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Obviously, the Lions are the top.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Of the division, and then the Packers, who second out
the season, turned it on and they look like a
team that's gonna be formidable now. So that's the hard
part is you can be a Minnesota Vikings team that
won thirteen games two years ago and find yourself quickly
at the bottom of that.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Division that divisions much improved though it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Is, it's awesome for the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I mean it's no AFC North, But for the NFC
it's it's it's nice, it's cute, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I mean, I don't know, cute would be the right ter.
That feels a little bit insulting, a little bit meaning
forget it.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Maybe it was meant to be because the AFC North
is just that much better.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
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Speaker 4 (28:38):
I did Russian? I saw a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
It was a stream of things that came in from Lee.
Thank you for sending this Lee. That's I guess somewhat creative.
I'm a little surprised that that was able to make
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Speaker 4 (29:04):
Is that a that's big news.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
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Speaker 6 (30:25):
Lap Good Monday morning, everybody. Good Monday morning to you, Jonas,
Good Monday morning to you, Brady. Guys, In case you
missed this. Over the weekend, the thunder went up on
the Pelicans.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Yeah, guys, in case you missed it, Uh hey Brady,
Uh thunder went up on the Pelicans, at which point
mister Shack and Charles Barkley had some, uh, some words
for the Pelicans. You'll get to hear that, as well
as a little bit of an apology slash of doubling
down on their criticism.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
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Speaker 4 (30:59):
Listen, disappointing us.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
Where they're going, Chuck Gaveston setting dirty ass water.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
They're not even going. We're not even gonna sitting there.
The can't cool.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
We're gonna sit there the Gaveston with that dirty ass
water be washed up on the shore, and people think they're.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
In the beach.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
Y'all, y'all, we all gonna send y'all a can't y'all
drive y'all, y'all quick drive Yeah, down to Gaveston.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Come on, man, taking come on, but they need to try. Man,
we're not getting the no plane ticket to the beach.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
We sitting there's the Galveston, Texas right with that dirty
water wash up on the beach.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I can't even get in the water. Man. I apologize.
I do not want to be hive in jail. So
how do you like Alvaston? Now it's beautiful, We're not
going there. You're going to vacation. You gotta l No,
I ain't going on vacker. You've got a chance to
wipe the slate clean, you got. I wouldn't go to
(31:55):
that water some dirt out. I'd really go to San
Antonio to big old women.
Speaker 11 (32:02):
No, No, I'm not going to gaut the I mean
I want to go to the beach down the river
walking watch them walking down, said, you know what, you
know what set them all?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Okay, so you know what we're gonna be rabbit chuck.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
San Antonio and that they that's what they have been
at Victoria's Secret Jack. Why does it seemed because the
women down and they can't get in them cutla underwear.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They wear bloomers down in San Antonio. Oh my god,
somehow Victoria's Secret down. Man. No, we are going to
transition from that to this like no plots of Texas. Oh,
he is a national treasure, he really is.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And he's got he's the one who's got the free
pass like he does. Anybody else says that. Could you
imagine if you guys did that a big dune kickoff?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
No chance, my god.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Rob Robston would go into convulsions. He'd be so nervous.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
He would have no idea how to respond to that.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But he you know, he's turned himself into obviously a
Hall of Fame basketball player, but almost a comedian like
entertainer slash.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
That's where he's bulletproofed to some degree.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
He's a comedian like people tune in to watch TNT
to see Charles Barkley say off the wall stuff that
you probably feel like you can only hear in the
locker room. And you're not wrong, like that is the
kind of type of conversations like guys would be having
behind closed doors. But he's the only one that's got
the ability to say it on live TV.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
All Right, call me crazy. I think he's a better broadcaster.
I think his broadcasting career is better than his playing career.
And he was a great player that people the Hall
of Fame player, hall of Fame player. I think his
broadcasting career has surpassed what he did as a player,
which is pretty crazy. I don't know how many former
athletes can say.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That that they know and you can almost make the
case for a young generation who never got to see
him play, they probably only know him as a broadcaster.
And that's the thing is he's changed his identity to
where there's a generation or multiple generations that only see
him as a broadcaster, even with having a Hall of
(34:20):
Fame career. So it's a credit to him, his work ethic,
his natural ability to be able to do that, because
anyone who transitions from a player into broadcasting, that's ultimately
what you're trying to do. And it's incredibly difficult to
move past some of the polarizing views that people are
going to have on you based on where you played
or based on how your career went.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean, you know, unless you're you and you got
people showing up to a remote and Dublin with a
shirt that says I would send for Quinn, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
That might have been round since college days. I think
that actually proves the opposite. But it's interesting because when
you talk to broadcast now, we's nothing off on a
TAM and there's times when like they don't mind guys
who aren't really that well now that didn't really have
much of a career, because then people don't form opinions
based off of when they see them, like oh I
hated that guy, or I don't like that guy. I
(35:11):
don't like when he played, or you know he was
a bust or he was so good. He always beat
my Like, there's never that commentary. They just listen and
they watch that. They're no, he's actually really good, he's
really well thought out. It's like, well, there's a lot
of people probably like that. Unfortunately they actually had a
career to some degree, and it rubs people the wrong
way one way or another.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
What else we got, lee, guys, In case you missed this,
we saw a number of sons of great players either
get drafted or signed with the former team with teams
over the weekend. Of course, we saw Marvin Harrison junior
Joe Alt. Another cool one, Frank Corr Junior signed with
the Bills after going undrafted. Now, that actually puts Josh
Allen in an interesting case where he can make cool
(35:52):
history being the only quarterback to ever hand off to
both a father and son.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
That's incredible. I don't want to keep them, just to
be able to have the ability to do that, that'd
be one of the coolest things ever.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
But see, I forgot that Frank or played second to
last year he was in Buffalo. I forgot all about that. Yeah,
I got what a career he had. He's gonna be incredible.
He's coming up for Hall of Fame candidacy pretty quick here.
I think next year is I think he's been out
four years now.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, so he's gonna go. If he doesn't get into
the Hall of Fame first ballot, that's ridiculous. I mean,
he's got sixteen thousand career yards, he's third all time.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Well, first ballots, Like, here's what I'll say. There's a
lot of like quality, really good players that are always
up for the Hall of Fame every year.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
So I don't know that's a knock if he doesn't
get in first ballot, because there's it's stiff competition, it's
it's coaches, his players, everything. So I wouldn't I wouldn't
necessarily go that direction with it. But I do think
if you look at the longevity and the career marks
that he was able to earn as a running back,
you'd have to give him strong consideration.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, listen to Frank Gore if you're listening, man, I
know he's a big listener to the show. I just
wanted on to record. I'm a supporter of you getting
in first ballot, all right, I'm not throwing shade at
you like it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You don't know why that is, folks, because Frank gorse
ballbag because he uh Jonas is a big fan of
sending still shots of Frank Gore, who apparently didn't wear
a jockstrap. You know, he just allowed his basketballs to
go to go free, but he was out flying.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, for those of you that are not not familiar
with that, there's just some that's.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The paddle with the ball and the string stuck to it.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Oh, I forget what those are called.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Imagine two of those
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Gotta you know guy just you know, went to a
farmer's market, picked up two mangoes and started walking around
with him on the football field.
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Monday edition, we look back at the NFL Draft.
What an event, what a spectacle. We're going to talk
about some of the moves that were made, the landing spots,
the decisions, whether or not an owner was involved in one.
Why was a punter taken in the fourth round when
you only had five picks in total in the draft.
(00:22):
We're also gonna have a conversation about the Minnesota Vikings
in Minnesota sports in general. They are humming after the
Timberwolves get past the Suns and sweep them into the
next round, but get dealt a little bit of bad news.
We're also going to get an update on Lee's weekend.
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So a one show suspension for going under eighty percent
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Speaker 3 (01:55):
Just try to take in the draft. I mean, it's
there's so many interesting take ways. Obviously after free agency,
now after the draft, I think every fan out there
has an idea of like, where their teams at their
chance of winning a Super Bowl this year. Obviously a
lot of time until the season starts, but I gotta
tell you, I I kind of fed off some of
your enthusiasm for the draft.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It's it's such a cool event. It's such a neat
experience even to go through it.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But looking back on it now, just it's the most
unique draft and an event. I think there is a
professional sports and no one does it better than the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
No bust them.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I think the final tallly was just under eight
hundred thousand fans showed up.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, that's amazing, man.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Because you really do combine the best of both worlds.
If the NFL is king and college football second, it's
it's the one event where they're all together at the
same time, and you kind of you kind of mix
both those audiences in. But just the NFL's idea on
moving this thing around, and you know, going from New
York and all that, and I know, you know, you
guys like the tradition of New York. I've always liked
(03:05):
the draft because it just gave everybody hope. They're like,
all right, we may have sucked last year, but you
know there's some hope here. And then just to see
what it's turned into. When we were in Vegas for
the Draft, a couple of years ago, you've been to
a bunch of drafts, and it just to be there
and to see what it's turned into from all these
years later. And it just gets bigger and better every
(03:26):
single year. And then next year, if I'm not mistaken,
it's Green Bay, correct, I think it's in grievance next year.
So that's going to be that's going to be pretty
wild as well too. So good times, good times to
be had at the draft. I mean, look, I just
I would appreciate it personally if we could just skip
past the whole international Fan of the year reading the
(03:46):
pick for some of these guys. That part really bothers me.
It really bo It's like these guys are supposed to
take in the moment, the biggest moment of their career,
of their life. They've worked so hard to get up
to this point. They're gonna get their name called and
get drafted, and it's some goofball wearing all team uniforms.
(04:08):
Like they had a guy who was dressed up in
suspenders with a cheese hat on because he was representing
the Packers, some guy from like London or someplace like that.
You got like this other guy like representing the Bears,
some slob. He comes out there and like a Jack
Sanborn Jersey and he starts reading off the pick in
the fourth round. We don't we give them games, all right.
(04:30):
They get their games, all right, they get a few
a year. We just don't need these guys walking up
there looking like looking like dummies, you know, reading off
these picks because they're half in the bag. I think
it's a bit insulting, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
See, you don't think that's part of them trying to
you know, spread the uh, the game internationally, and that's
part of their little I don't know, try trying to
dig in to spread the game.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean, it isn't isn't them getting a game enough?
Do we have to reward the fans by getting up
there to read these picks? You know, like somebody's gonna
screw something up? And then it turns into like some
professional wrestling event where they're calling out the opposing fan
base and this and that. It's like, dude, just let
these guys enjoy their moment. Can we get somebody with
some credibility up there to read these pics?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's all, wow, yeah, okay, that's how you feel about it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I think what's interesting is I've never actually asked an
international fan that is a fan of the NFL, like,
do you watch the Draft? I mean, I think we
all understand they're gonna watch the Super Bowl. They might
even attend the game that's over in London or overseas
that's over in Europe, right, But do you actually watch
the draft?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean, that's the next step of really gaining the
intrigue of it, because it's not like, as they would say,
it's not like they watched university. You know, they're not
watching college football mostly, although college football is trying to
you know, create it's it's footprint over there. Yeah, clearly,
we went to Ireland last year. We saw that firsthand.
Are we going back this year?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I don't know. You know, who doesn't seem.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Like there's a given the hoops through the chill through
last year, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of
momnimal us going back this year.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I mean it's either that or maybe we're not getting
invited back. You know, you know, we could we could
have done some damage out there and maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Somebody were damn bar It was a great time, but
it was by a couple of rounds there.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It was a lot more exmitsive than I anticipated.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I do appreciate the fact that if if somebody offers
you a beer at ten in the morning and you
say no, they look at you like you're the weirdo.
I do appreciate that that like, you're the one who's
got the issue, not me having a beer or my
second beer at ten in the morning. It's you who's
(06:42):
got the problem. It's like, okay, well, I mean it's
it's two o'clock in the morning back home. You know,
it's not exactly the time I want to have a guinness,
But you know, you have fun and you tear it
up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I do.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
When it comes to the draft and just sort of
the you kind of pointed this out. It did feel
like there there's not as many guys going to the draft,
like it did feel like there wasn't that the green
room wasn't as packed. It wasn't And I'm just wondering,
with it being in Green Bay next year, is this
gonna I mean, are we gonna see the numbers dwindle
even more? Like maybe that maybe these places aren't quote
(07:15):
unquote cool enough for him for some of these players
to go get drafted there, because if you're the guy
getting drafted by the team hosting the draft, it's awesome.
It's like Arnold for Alabama who went and got drafted
by the Lions in the first round. That was awesome.
So if you're one of these guys that gets drafted
by the Packers next year, they're gonna roll out the
(07:36):
red carpet and you're gonna be celebrated onlike anybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So let's just talk about the quarterbacks, because we had
six go in the top twelve picks, and if I'm
not mistaken, were the top three all.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
At the draft?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Obviously was yes, I believe Jane Daniels was, and Drake
May was and Drake May was yeah, And I think
that's a lot to do with the fact that we
anticipated all three of those going one, two, three. You know,
if you look at how the draft, even back when
I'd went, you know, there was five of us and
I hadn't met with the team outside the top ten,
and obviously all those guys went inside the top seven.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So that was kind of the mold or model, if
you will, is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
They anticipated having you know, a group of guys they
all thought were going in the top ten, and I
think if you look at the quarterbacks, for example, Michael
Pennix Junior, who ended up going to eight, probably the
biggest surprise of the draft. JJ mccarthury ends up going
what tenth, I think, right, the Jets traded out that
spot and then you had the Broncos who took Bonix.
All three were somewhere else, and the reason being is
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there was speculation, wild speculation over where any of them
would go. So I think that lends a little bit
of an understanding to being someone who's been there and
who's gone through sitting in the green room and having
to wait and having a camera on you is when
you do fall like that's what you signed up for.
(09:01):
You signed up for the exposure to They're going to
talk about it and they're gonna put you on camera.
It's one of the storylines. You know, for this year,
maybe it wasn't quite as big of a storyline because
if Michael Pennix or Bo Nix, or maybe Jaj McCarthy,
if he would have dropped further than where he went,
maybe people would have made a bigger story about it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But none of that really happened this year.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I mean, the one that I think was most surprising
to me was Spencer Ratler, who I didn't think he
was going to be a first round pick. I thought
he maybe could be a second third round pick. The
fact that he dropped to where he did was what
was really surprising. To be taken in the fifth round.
That was somewhat shocking given his talent level and what
he put on tape. I did not think he'd go
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that late in the draft. So it lends you a
little bit of an understanding of this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's a big event, and no one wants to be
that guy.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Some of the guys are concerned or scared of being
put in a position where they may be criticized and
maybe on camera a lot, And that's their own prerogative, right,
It's their own opportunity to do it. At the end
of the day, you're just blessed to be able to
have a chance to get draft in the NFL and
go play a game for your first true professional job, right,
not like the Bogie in or Hollister or Embassy suites
(10:16):
back in the day.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Some of my former employers before I, before I actually
got in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, man, you working at a Hollister, It's just a
wonderful tale like that. That really is something. Did you
get any free like clothes or outfits or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
They give you a discount, You get a discount.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But that's the thing is you quickly realize after the
first time when you buy, because you have to wear
their clothes and you work there, they give you this
really big discount, and then you realize, like, my entire
paycheck just went to what I'm wearing at work, Like
it's just because you turned right back around and buy
that stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was a terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
On the Spencer Rattler stuff. How about the crap that
came out and Ian rapt before couldn't even I think,
understand it himself. That the reason the thought was that
he dropped as far as he was because we were
talking on Friday and the Raiders were picking at forty
four in the second round and we were thinking, okay,
that could be a landing spot. I think it was
one of our over unders as well too. As to
where he went so to drop all the way down.
(11:09):
Ian Rappaport said that he talked to a number of
NFL teams, and they said the way that he was
depicted and the way that he came across on the
QB one show from Netflix was part of the reason
why teams wanted to potentially steer clear of him. That
came out when he was seventeen. It was six years ago,
(11:31):
and teams didn't like the way he was portrayed in
QB one and that's part of the reason why he dropped.
What are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's obviously odd that a team, you'd think that they
do their due diligence to look at the player, look
at who he is now. I do wonder if that
was a convenient excuse, and maybe some of the teams
that did do some of the work on him felt
like there was still some of that. Oklahoma felt like
there was still some of that of South Carolina. It's
hard to ultimately know. Obviously that's you know, their own
(12:00):
team's prerogative, but that's a learning lesson. I think for
a lot of young men out there is everything you
do is being monitored.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
They look at the tweets.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I think they said from these kids up through junior
high and as much as we would scrutinize teams for
that being something that made them hesitant of, you know,
drafting Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
The second they draft Spencer Rattler and that.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Clip comes out, the team, the coach, the general manager,
they're all they have to talk about it, like that
stuff's out there publicly. So that's what you're drafting when
you draft him. Is even though we say it's six
years ago, is when he was seventeen. He's grown up,
He's matured a lot since then. They're still going to
have to answer for it. As much as like we
want to, we want to fault the NFL evaluators, uh,
(12:47):
you know, and the and the fun office execs and
people who might have said this is it's we're also
part of the reason for that. Like we're just as
much to blame for how we are as a society
because we bring that stuff back up. There's a never
ending search of it. So again, I hated it for
him because again I thought he was a really talented player,
and I still think he's in a great spot if
(13:09):
he gets his opportunity in New Orleans to see what
that might look like. But these teams will comb through
every little piece of information they can to try to
reduce their risk of bringing a guy that was portrayed
and not a great light. And you know that was
his choice. He was on that show. And again, I
(13:31):
know he's grown up a lot since then. But maybe
they felt like there was some of that Oklahoma and
some about South Carolina.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
We don't know what they found out.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
We can only speculate at this point, but it's it's
tough for these young men to live in an era
where everything you do is now scrutinized for the time
year was sixteen seventeen, moving on.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Isn't that part of the reason why you shouldn't do
a reality show?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Like that's one of the biggest that's one of the
quarterbacks want to sign up for in the end in
the Netflix series, I.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Want to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Want no part of that. Like, listen, you're celebrity, all right,
Brady Quinn's a celebrity, all right. Your wife con your
wife is an Olympian, the Great Alicia Sacramony. Like I mean,
you guys, you guys are tailor made to be a
reality show. But no, not interested. Rather keep some of
this stuff private and not have a camera follow you
(14:20):
around and by the way a lot of these reality
shows and the people behind the reality shows, doesn't it
always end up turning into disaster, Like somebody's always got
that something on you, Like, I don't know what the
divorce rate or the breakup rate is on some of
these reality show couples and marriages that go on television
and have cameras follow them around, But it is a disaster.
(14:41):
And Spencer Rattler just had to wait an extra day
and a half because the way he was depicted when
he was a teenager on a Netflix show kind of
wild man, like the background checks that they've done, but
away we go. What would it cost, like how much
if somebody offered you a certain amount, what would be
your number to do reality show?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I don't know if there's a price, I mean honestly,
Like it's just you wouldn't want you'd have to full
control of editing, like all those things that you know
no one would ever give up. You know, most of
these people who do these reality TV shows, they want
the final say so they can create the storylines, they
can create the drama, and that's why.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It would just never work.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I do sometimes feel like it would be beneficial to
pay for a camera crew to follow my family only
so we could.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Be like, whoa pause, all right, let's go back and
watch this on replay, and then you actually like talk through.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
A scenario or like an argument or fight, and you're like,
you know, you said, I said this, no idea, and
you're like, no, no, pause, all right, let's go to
the camera crew and.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
We go back. Yeah, we break it back down.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You're like, all right, see you said this. Now I'm
gonna fast forward a little bit here. Okay, stop, this
is where you made this face. And this is where
I was then like, oh that's what. Okay that because
it means something different when you say it, and you
say it with that face, with that attitude, right, and
that's what really triggered me to start arguing with you.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's I don't know that would.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Be I think the most useful part of having a
camera follow you around is you could literally be able
to kind of pick apart your life like that eye
in the sky.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Like football, and draw it out on the screen like
shallow with arrows and circles. And this is where it happened.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Literally have the whole team and the family room have
like a chalkboard up there and be like, all right,
here's where we need to get better.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Let's go back to the tape. Now.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That is a good good delights, that is a good move.
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
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Speaker 5 (17:14):
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Speaker 6 (17:19):
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Speaker 1 (17:27):
I can't wait for this, Joe.
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
Can you feel it?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Brady?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
No, I cannot.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
What about now?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Are you sure you can't feel it?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
What are we what were supposed to be feeling? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Lee's feeling to be wearing sunglasses inside listening.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Did we have a good weekend?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I think he did, feeling good.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
About the something else.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
By the way, it should be mentioned two pros and
a cup of Joe here, Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox with you. It should be mentioned also, Uh,
it is a lovely day for somebody else here at
Fox Sports Radio. Our Lord and Savior Scotchip here or
our boss, a long suffering Minnesota sports fan, the Tea
Wolves are back baby a clean sweep. They dominated Phoenix
(18:49):
in that series, and they are onto the next round.
And of course, as luck would have it, because it
is Minnesota, and because they've had a bad, bad string
of seasons, and the championship drought continues on. Even when
they do win an advance in a sweep, which I
believe is the first sweep in the history of Minnesota sports.
No franchise in the city has ever completed a four
(19:12):
game sweep. Even when that happens, their coach ruptures his
potel attendant in a collision with Mike Conley last night
during the game, So I don't know the recovery time
on that. But I don't know the last time I've
heard a coach getting ripped apart during a game on
the NBA sideline. That's normally like a football thing, or
(19:32):
we've seen it happen in football before. But even when
good things happen to Minnesota, bad things are right around
the corner. That's about So you just want to mention
congratulations to everybody who's haid to us sit through a
lot of bad basketball and bad teams and high draft picks.
But Anthony Edwards is a stud. That dude is a
stud and he's fun to watch. Lee's also happy. And
(19:56):
I didn't even put this together until Lee sent me
a text on Saturday and just said nice. And I
look at the text and Lee, who was your favorite
draft pick of the weekend?
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Evan Williams to the packers, Yeah, woo, No, it's Jersey
I'm buying.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I didn't even know, so I didn't even know what
Evan Williams was. I've never drank it. I've never had it.
And I think it was when we were we were
in Ireland and Lee was like, oh, yeah, you know,
I wish it would have brought my mini bottles or
he made some comment about that, like it's to go
bag of mini bottles from the liquor store. And I
(20:39):
was like, what's your go to? Did you get like
some Jack Daniels. I'm not paying that extra dollar? What's
the other option? Evan Williams?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Baby?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, what is Evan Williams about?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
A buck fifty?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's like and it's like some like knockoff?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Is it a whiskey, It's.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
A bourbon, it's from Kentucky. Uh, it's gets a bad rap.
He gets a bad rap, but it's it's just as good,
if not better than JD.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But how much cheap were we talking?
Speaker 7 (21:09):
JD's two fifty for the for the air airflight shot now.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Saving a dollar right there.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
With the Seagrams, you get the Seagrams and Evan Williams.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
And so of course the packers would draft Oregon Safety. Yes, uh,
you got you the way you're getting the jersey right, well,
you know Williams.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
No, I'm not gonna get Evan Williams because it's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Really the whole name on the back Williams.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Why not? It is too generic of a name. Oh,
by the way, I saw a jersey. There's some Kings fan.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Made a jersey.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I can't even say it on the air, like there's
no way around it. I'm trying to think how I'll
just I'll put it this way. The last name was meov, Yes,
and then you can kind of insert whatever whatever word
you went in front of that. Eddie Garcia. You've got
(22:13):
a real classy fan base by the way that they're
rolled around with those jerseys. And then number sixty nine.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Yeah, but well it was creative. The last part of
the name was ov like the Russian like you know
that kind of feder off you know, O V.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So that was creative, Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
So I heard that fan was escorted out of the
building up.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Was he really?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
God forbid. A creativity just gets dismissed nowadays.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Did you mention the number, by the way, Yeah, I
appreciate artist artists any more, do we?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean, that's an NFL artist if you will.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Yeah, he paid big money for that to be made.
That's kind of the shocking thing, right that if you
go to like most official websites and you try to
get a custom jersey, if you put in something offensive,
it won't They won't make it right then won't do it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh yeah, And so he somehow.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
He got away around algorithm.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You know the people fanatics are like that bastard. He
got us. There's another one off the list. It is
two Pros and a cup of Joe. By the way,
coming up here in a little over fifteen minutes from now,
you're going to hear one of the great breakdowns of
a city and a team and a fan base that
you will ever hear. It's yours again. A little over
(23:31):
fifteen minutes from now. Also to be mentioned, Minnesota, they've
got a brand new quarterback. JJ McCarthy's the guy. JJ
McCarthy will be under center for the Vikings next year
as he start day one? Or does Sam Darnold get
the gig.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That's a good question because they don't have to start
him day one if they don't feel like he's ready
to start day one. However, I do think he probably will.
He's a smart young man. He's you know, running an
NFL system during his time in Michigan. The question just
becomes like, do they feel like he's made the steps
to be able to do that? So's that's probably the
(24:07):
second biggest question I think that they need to answer
before the season starts.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
There's still one big one lingery out there.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
That's right, and the GM of the Minnesota Vikings, Questia
Dolpha Mensa, spoke about the potential of getting a Justin
Jefferson contract done before the season. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (24:24):
Either way, whenever we signed him, we want Justin to
have his whole week. You know that friend that has
a birthday that takes the month. I think Justin would
deserve his whole month if we signed a contract to
celebrate it. So you know, we're excited to work towards it.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
We're going to keep going.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
And you can't have all these plans when we talk
about the visions and not talk about that the King lynchpin.
So we're going to keep working towards that end goal.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
So when you see all the receivers getting deals, do
you think the Vikings front office is like, come on, man,
can we just slow it down a little bit?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Here?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Like this is getting more expensive and more expensive every
single day, and it's just the price tag is only
going to go up up, But he's gonna get me.
He'll be the highest paid receiver in football and they're
going to lock him up. But this idea that I
even saw somebody throw it out there, could they potentially,
if they wanted to move far enough in the draft,
could they include Justin Jefferson in a deal?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Absolutely not. He's the best receiver in football and with
that supporting cast around JJ McCarthy. It's why he was
telling everybody, like his coaches people at Michigan. I think
Sharon Moore even said he saw the talent and the
weapons around him to lock Justin Jefferson up is going
to make his life a whole lot easier there in Minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, he's the type of player that, not that it's
going to matter now for his rookie deal because these
are slotted, but I would imagine JJ McCarthy, even when
he gets his second deal. Maybe I'm wrong, but I
would imagine he'd be the type to take a discount
to allow there to be more cap space for other
players around him. He just he kind of gives off
that personality, you know, falling in the footsteps of a
(25:58):
guy like Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Who goes to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
There's a lot of that when you talk to them
about the team and everything that you know he really
cares about ultimately. So this is a move that I
think if you look at the cap ramifications of Kirk
Cousins moving on in free agency, Daniel Hunter moving on
in free agency, and what the Minnesota Vikings were able
to save in replacing on with JJ McCarthy at quarterback
and Dallas Turner in the first round at the edge.
(26:24):
They're paying both those guys over the next four years. Okay,
this does not include their fifth year options for either player,
but they're paying them roughly a little less over four
years than what Daniel Hunter is going to make as
far as the cap hit this year, obviously well below
what Cousins is gonna make this year. That's the crazy
(26:47):
thing is you got two players to replace two you lost,
and over the next four years they're cheaper than those
two players that just signed in free agency. So that
allows for you to have that sort of space to
sign Justin Jefferson to this monster deal. That to your point,
you know, he may be the highest paid wide receiver
(27:09):
for a period of you know, in time, but it
could get passed by Ceedee Lamb depending on what Ceedee
Lamb does his deal. Because these guys have been one
upping each other wide receiver contract announcement after wide receiver
contract announcement.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
But again doing a game last.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Year, talking to that staff, talking to you know, Kevin O'Connell,
they understand they have the best wide receiver on their roster.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
They fully are aware of that.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
They understand the importance of getting an extension done with
him and what he means to that team and what
he's going to mean to to Jaj McCarthy, taking pressure
off of him and.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Their win total over under six and a half on DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I mean I'm taking the over.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I would take the over too. I think the tough
thing is is you know that there's two Bears games
that you probably chalked up his winnable games now look
much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Obviously, the Lions are the top.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Of the division, and then the Packers, who second out
the season, turned it on and they look like a
team that's gonna be formidable now. So that's the hard
part is you can be a Minnesota Vikings team that
won thirteen games two years ago and find yourself quickly
at the bottom of that.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Division that divisions much improved though it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Is, it's awesome for the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I mean it's no AFC North, But for the NFC
it's it's it's nice, it's cute, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I mean, I don't know, cute would be the right ter.
That feels a little bit insulting, a little bit meaning
forget it.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Maybe it was meant to be because the AFC North
is just that much better.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. But did you check out that Jersey? Did
you see the picture of the.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I did Russian? I saw a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
It was a stream of things that came in from Lee.
Thank you for sending this Lee. That's I guess somewhat creative.
I'm a little surprised that that was able to make
it past the algorithms. I also saw the best friend Evan,
I saw that. I didn't even really realized they made
a single barrel, by the way, a little more expensive.
(29:01):
The Tylis seek back in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Is that a that's big news.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, that's a new deal. Huh so, So we'll have
more on that as well too. It is Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
and coming up next here you're going to hear a
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Speaker 2 (29:22):
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Speaker 1 (29:32):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 6 (30:25):
Lap Good Monday morning, everybody. Good Monday morning to you, Jonas,
Good Monday morning to you, Brady. Guys, In case you
missed this. Over the weekend, the thunder went up on
the Pelicans.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Yeah, guys, in case you missed it, Uh hey Brady,
Uh thunder went up on the Pelicans, at which point
mister Shack and Charles Barkley had some, uh, some words
for the Pelicans. You'll get to hear that, as well
as a little bit of an apology slash of doubling
down on their criticism.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Go ahead, take a.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Listen, disappointing us.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
Where they're going, Chuck Gaveston setting dirty ass water.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
They're not even going. We're not even gonna sitting there.
The can't cool.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
We're gonna sit there the Gaveston with that dirty ass
water be washed up on the shore, and people think they're.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
In the beach.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
Y'all, y'all, we all gonna send y'all a can't y'all
drive y'all, y'all quick drive Yeah, down to Gaveston.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Come on, man, taking come on, but they need to try. Man,
we're not getting the no plane ticket to the beach.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
We sitting there's the Galveston, Texas right with that dirty
water wash up on the beach.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I can't even get in the water. Man. I apologize.
I do not want to be hive in jail. So
how do you like Alvaston? Now it's beautiful, We're not
going there. You're going to vacation. You gotta l No,
I ain't going on vacker. You've got a chance to
wipe the slate clean, you got. I wouldn't go to
(31:55):
that water some dirt out. I'd really go to San
Antonio to big old women.
Speaker 11 (32:02):
No, No, I'm not going to gaut the I mean
I want to go to the beach down the river
walking watch them walking down, said, you know what, you
know what set them all?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Okay, so you know what we're gonna be rabbit chuck.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
San Antonio and that they that's what they have been
at Victoria's Secret Jack. Why does it seemed because the
women down and they can't get in them cutla underwear.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
They wear bloomers down in San Antonio. Oh my god,
somehow Victoria's Secret down. Man. No, we are going to
transition from that to this like no plots of Texas. Oh,
he is a national treasure, he really is.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And he's got he's the one who's got the free
pass like he does. Anybody else says that. Could you
imagine if you guys did that a big dune kickoff?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
No chance, my god.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Rob Robston would go into convulsions. He'd be so nervous.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
He would have no idea how to respond to that.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But he you know, he's turned himself into obviously a
Hall of Fame basketball player, but almost a comedian like
entertainer slash.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
That's where he's bulletproofed to some degree.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
He's a comedian like people tune in to watch TNT
to see Charles Barkley say off the wall stuff that
you probably feel like you can only hear in the
locker room. And you're not wrong, like that is the
kind of type of conversations like guys would be having
behind closed doors. But he's the only one that's got
the ability to say it on live TV.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
All Right, call me crazy. I think he's a better broadcaster.
I think his broadcasting career is better than his playing career.
And he was a great player that people the Hall
of Fame player, hall of Fame player. I think his
broadcasting career has surpassed what he did as a player,
which is pretty crazy. I don't know how many former
athletes can say.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That that they know and you can almost make the
case for a young generation who never got to see
him play, they probably only know him as a broadcaster.
And that's the thing is he's changed his identity to
where there's a generation or multiple generations that only see
him as a broadcaster, even with having a Hall of
(34:20):
Fame career. So it's a credit to him, his work ethic,
his natural ability to be able to do that, because
anyone who transitions from a player into broadcasting, that's ultimately
what you're trying to do. And it's incredibly difficult to
move past some of the polarizing views that people are
going to have on you based on where you played
or based on how your career went.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean, you know, unless you're you and you got
people showing up to a remote and Dublin with a
shirt that says I would send for Quinn, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
That might have been round since college days. I think
that actually proves the opposite. But it's interesting because when
you talk to broadcast now, we's nothing off on a
TAM and there's times when like they don't mind guys
who aren't really that well now that didn't really have
much of a career, because then people don't form opinions
based off of when they see them, like oh I
hated that guy, or I don't like that guy. I
(35:11):
don't like when he played, or you know he was
a bust or he was so good. He always beat
my Like, there's never that commentary. They just listen and
they watch that. They're no, he's actually really good, he's
really well thought out. It's like, well, there's a lot
of people probably like that. Unfortunately they actually had a
career to some degree, and it rubs people the wrong
way one way or another.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
What else we got, lee, guys, In case you missed this,
we saw a number of sons of great players either
get drafted or signed with the former team with teams
over the weekend. Of course, we saw Marvin Harrison junior
Joe Alt. Another cool one, Frank Corr Junior signed with
the Bills after going undrafted. Now, that actually puts Josh
Allen in an interesting case where he can make cool
(35:52):
history being the only quarterback to ever hand off to
both a father and son.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
That's incredible. I don't want to keep them, just to
be able to have the ability to do that, that'd
be one of the coolest things ever.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
But see, I forgot that Frank or played second to
last year he was in Buffalo. I forgot all about that. Yeah,
I got what a career he had. He's gonna be incredible.
He's coming up for Hall of Fame candidacy pretty quick here.
I think next year is I think he's been out
four years now.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, so he's gonna go. If he doesn't get into
the Hall of Fame first ballot, that's ridiculous. I mean,
he's got sixteen thousand career yards, he's third all time.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Well, first ballots, Like, here's what I'll say. There's a
lot of like quality, really good players that are always
up for the Hall of Fame every year.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
So I don't know that's a knock if he doesn't
get in first ballot, because there's it's stiff competition, it's
it's coaches, his players, everything. So I wouldn't I wouldn't
necessarily go that direction with it. But I do think
if you look at the longevity and the career marks
that he was able to earn as a running back,
you'd have to give him strong consideration.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, listen to Frank Gore if you're listening, man, I
know he's a big listener to the show. I just
wanted on to record. I'm a supporter of you getting
in first ballot, all right, I'm not throwing shade at
you like it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You don't know why that is, folks, because Frank gorse
ballbag because he uh Jonas is a big fan of
sending still shots of Frank Gore, who apparently didn't wear
a jockstrap. You know, he just allowed his basketballs to
go to go free, but he was out flying.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, for those of you that are not not familiar
with that, there's just some that's.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The paddle with the ball and the string stuck to it.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Oh, I forget what those are called.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Imagine two of those
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Gotta you know guy just you know, went to a
farmer's market, picked up two mangoes and started walking around
with him on the football field.
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