May 3, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug explains what he meant when he sent out a viral tweet about Caitlin Clark. Doug welcomes draft expert Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to go over all of the main headlines coming off of the NFL Draft. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug on a Thursday edition of "The Press".
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Jason said he wants to He wants to bungee jump
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restrictions possible.
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Yeah, you can't sue them if you you know, dog
or if you're paralyzed.
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Well, it's really hard to sue somebody if you die.
I just well, you're a state, I understand, but for
you personally, very very difficult to sue somebody if you die.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Your family can though, sure, that's what he said.
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Is a state, isn't a strange New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
New Zealand seems like a very like buttoned up country
with like a lot of good laws. And then they're
yet they're like they have this, you can go there
and do risky business.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Risky business. I think everybody has something.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Every country just prioritizes. And our country is over wibless
and over what was it called when you see a
lot hold on?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Not litigious?
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Over religiousious. There's another word for slander. Those are this
written verses. Litigious is yes, we sue for everything. Litigation
over relatgigus.
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There's something.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You can also come here and you know have a
drink and no you can't did this country.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No, you'd be twenty one years old to have a
drink here. We have stricter laws than other things are country.
What separates our country, like our one good thing is
this thing called the constitution, which is supposed to protect
your ability to speak freely. The problem is that a
lot of people simply believe that you have freedom of speech.
You're like, Okay, I can say whatever I want to
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whoever I want, wherever I want, and I have the
right to freely protest wherever I want. Like, yeah, there's
some actual there's there's some fine print in there, right,
there's some fine print in there. I'm guessing there's some
fine print in the New Zealand thing, just just letting
you know, gotta be some fine print in there. But
our country, like the big thing is a melting pot.
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You can kind of like find your people being from
somewhere else wherever you are. And the whole free speech
thing like yeah, you know, let's like you're free to
practice religion as long as it doesn't impinge on my right.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
There are a lot of freedoms here, So I mean,
like now you can come here and it's like becoming
the weed capital of the world.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You can come here. There's more vices. You can get
the vices in this country.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And don't get me started on the for profit healthcare
system and don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I not well, you got amsterd Amsterdam was traditionally known
as the where you go if you want to you
want to do we drugs, prostitution, right, you have to
try to. You tried to have the red zone whatever anyway,
red light district, red light district.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's it. That's it. Uh let's get into what is
uh am I still trending on Twitter?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Jase, do you were trending on Twitter? Yesterday, Am I
training on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
No? No, no, now it's over. You know the new cycle.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I I don't look to see if I'm training on Twitter.
I just asked, thought you.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Or you get emails when you're trending on Twitter? No?
You don't have notifications?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
No should I is that something worth doing? How do
you find out what's trending on Twitter?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay, so right now Jayhawks a AI A great Ostboro,
also Borrow and Najie Harris are our training on Twitter.
But yesterday your boy was was trending? Now do we
want want to go back to the tweet and act
like people haven't? Like again, some of the rules of
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doing this job is don't talk about what you want
to talk about. Talk about what more people want to
talk about.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I would say good derivative and don't assume just.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That's that's big, right, don't assume that's that's that was
the rule.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm getting to be anti Iowa. Sam would just be
very concise.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, Sam, it's not concise.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I actually am, But you know.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, you're not. No one thinks you're not. Uh Rich listen, listen, listen.
I love you, but you continue to talk. That actually
plays into what we're talking about. Okay, the play plays
into it anyway. So here's what happened. I was sitting here,
actually in this very chair. It's a pretty comfortable chair,
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and I was watching a highlight that came across of
of Caitlin Clark, and she's playing it looks like two
on two, three on three at practice, maybe five on five,
and she shoots a sidestep jump shot, and I was
watching it in real time, and then I I've freeze
framed or froze an image, which would it be frozen image?
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And the point of her release the ball is to
the left side of her head. It actually looks very
similar to Lonzo balls shot before when he was in
college and his first year or so in the NBA
with the Lakers. And you know, I happen to have
watched Caitlyn play a lot and know that she doesn't
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shoot off the dribble really going to her right, and
that she shot about thirty seven and a half percent
from three this year, which is not a terrible percent.
It's not like Gottlieb type numbers, but it's also not elite.
It's the only part of her offensive game, which you
would say isn't elite in terms of statistically, you know,
she below fifty percent from the field, she'd a little high,
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a little bit more efficient now she takes a lot
of deep ones.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And so when I watched it, I was like, huh,
that's interesting. And I have lots of friends in basketball.
My life outside of Fox Sports Radio is really in basketball.
I run a basketball program, my coach basketball. I have
basketball friends that my kids. That's kind of all I got, right.
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So Mike Procorpoo was like the video guy and helped
analyze Kobe Bryant, somebody who Pro has worked with lots
of different NBA players and NBA teams. So I tweeted
at him and I said, the amount of work it
takes to be consistent through her mechanical flaw is really impressive.
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If you were advising her, would you fix it in
the off season? At Hoop Consultants at Food Consultants is
Mike Procorpio's Twitter handle. So Pro responded several times over
and said, you know, it's probably something she developed over
time when she was younger to try and get the
ball there, and you know, it doesn't think it's a
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major issue, but would probably basically say, would probably, you know,
work to fine tune it in the off season.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
This thing is.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Blown up, and is blown up to the level of
let's let's let's do a little check on it. Analytics
are eleven million impressions, one hundred and four thousand engagements,
eighty one detail expands, fifty one thousand profile visits, and
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I picked up twenty nine new followers.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Huh huh.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So there has been every single kind of response. My
favorite ones, MANCI are that I'm man's splaining, a man's splaining.
Help me out, how is that man splaining?
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I don't know how that is man splaining, but I will,
can I be honest with you? Of course you can't
be surprised that this is the reaction that Doug Gottlie
got when saying something about Caitlin Clark that was not
a full positive thing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Right because people can't actually have reasonable analysis of her.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I think that's true, but I also think.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, no, no, I know it's true. I have proof right
here on my phone, but they can't. Actually they can't.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Actually it's by the way, by the way, okay, I
just I just I want you to read this. I
want to read the sentence for you, and you tell
me the amount of work it takes to be consistent
through her mechanical flaw is really impressive. Okay, So to
be consistent, which is really what it takes to be
a very good shooter a player. Okay, amount of work.
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She has great work ethic, and it's impressive mechanical flaw.
People will go like, mechanical flaw. It is a mechanical flaw.
There's there is no denying it.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No one teaches you to shoot the ball starting on
the left side of your head, no one. There is
not anybody. I have been to a million shooting coaches myself,
and I've taken my son to a one hundred different workouts.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
There is not one human being alive.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
That goes, hey, here's how we're going to start your
shot over on the left side, slinging over to the
right and shoot your thumb. Nobody teaches that, you know, yes, okay,
So by definition it's a mechanical flaw.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
And it was kind of like backhanded compliment.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
She makes it in spite of this. Yeah, like, but
she had to work really really hard to do.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
It I I a backhand.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No, it's fine, You're allowed to.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Here's the issue, Okay, if you want to play in
the deep pool, you gotta swim with the sharks. Sure, okay,
And there's not even criticism. I didn't say shiting guardianbody.
I just said, like, hey, look at her shot. It
starts on the left side of her head.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Right, which is not how you would teach anyone to
shoot a ball.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And she's worked hard to overcome and become a great
player and score more points than anybody in women's college
basketball history, despite the fact she starts the ball on
the left side.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Of her head, right.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
So she's not gonna change anything.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Now, why wouldn't she?
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Why would she?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Because she's shooting thirty seven percent from three. Ideally you
want to shoot in the low forties from three.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
Okay, she's not far from that. She could probably she
could probably do that with her own shot.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Don't you think it would be more detrimental to her
to completely change what she's been doing that is successful
for her?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So that's now, that's a really good question. That's basically
what I asked my porpoo, which is, you're at thirty
seven do you move it over. Do you start on
the right side? Do you move it over to the middle?
And I said, you wait till the off season. You
don't do it right now. You don't have the time
to do it right now. Yeah, yeah, screw it all up.
It takes a lot, a lot of reps, okay to
make that thing work, and you just it's it's it's
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the old ten thousand hours and you got to move
that to move that shot over. But the shot is
incredibly similar.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I need to I need to a couple of things here,
a couple of things. So when you say off season
what you just explained, I didn't know that's what you meant,
because I think a lot of the criticism or that
a lot of the reactions you're getting is she just
broke the record, now you want to change her shot immediately.
I think they assume the off season is this between
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the n C double season and the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, no, no, the WNBA season ends.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
WNBA season ends, And that's not clear I think because
of any comments.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Again, again, because you have people who don't know anything
about anything. Hey, they don't. They're like I've had tweets
say she's the greatest shooter in NCA Beast mystery. Like, no,
she's not, No, she's not she's not the greatest shooter.
She's not a bad shooter, but she's not a great shooter. Okay,
she's really good.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
She's a good scorer. Correct, Yes, there's a difference.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Correct, she's a great officer, she's a great offensive player.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
People don't understand the different scene shooter and score. They
don't understand different scene cutter. You know, there's we call
it slashers, but you can score to cut you know,
I mean, like listen, Shay Gildas. Alexander's perfect example. Right,
he's not a great three point shooters and shoot.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
A hig volume.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He's unbelievable, like five seven feet in. I never see
anything like it. You know, Kyrie is saying what Kyrie
is a finisher. People don't nder that like finishing. They
think they've thought for years Russell Westbrook is a great
finisher because he goes in and he'll dunk and yell.
The analytics tell you he's actually a terribly inefficient finisher.
Like the biggest flawed of Russell Westbrook in his prime
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was he was a bad finisher. You can be a
subpar three point shooter back, especially back in that era.
But if you don't, if you can't make a high
percentage of finishes, whereas Kyrie an unbelievable finisher.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Anyway, So just so you know, Jase Dow, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
The off season and this is a lot like Lonzo ball,
where you get drafted in I said June, you play
a little summer league and then you're in training camp
in October. There's not the time there to change your shot.
You got to wait till after your first season. Okay,
So after your first season in the WNBA, it's like September,
September up until April or May. If she's I don't
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believe she's gonna go overseas and play, she doesn't have to.
She's gonna make enough money with Nike women only that
traditionally to make a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Maybe she does.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But even in that, that provides you the time because
you you only play sometimes once or twice a week, depending,
but that would be the time in which you go
and you tweak your shot, fix your shot if you.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Want to change the verbiage to it, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But the way that real basketball people talk is are
you gonna fix that or are you gonna leave it?
And what you're saying, MANSI is really really that's the
interesting part because do you go like, you know what,
it's worked.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's not screwed up.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
She probably won't be perfect with it, may not shoot,
you know, forty two, forty three from three, but it works, like, don't.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Screw with it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It screws with their head.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Some people, you move that thing over, you change it,
you change it. And I think somewhere in between a
dramatic change and not doing anything, I would guess the
first thing is I actually think she developed this in
the last year, year and a half or so, because
if you look, the numbers have actually gone down this year.
And I think she's done it because the defense is
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completely built around stopping her, and they pick her up
so deep she takes deeper shots, and it's a it's
a way to generate more power more quickly. And I
think it's kind of I don't want to say it's
screwed up her shot, but it's a it's it's a
bit of a flaw, and I think it will limit
her ability to shoot off the dribble going to her right,
you know, so people will funnel her right and play
for her to drive going right. And if you look,
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and I've had people go like, look at the percentage
of for going right, that's fine. I've watched the games
and everybody plays for probably push her right where she's
going to make plays going to the basket or shoot.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And and for the record.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And I think my buddy Brian yank Kellovitch, who's a
former player at Long Beach State and assistant coach, he
pointed out most righties. I don't know if you guys
know this in basketball, which way do right handers like
to go to shoot jump shots?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But I guess, Sam well, I guess it would stand
a reason. You got your right hand right right.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's actually easier to go to your left because your shoulders.
As your shoulders turn, they don't over rotate when you're
going to your right. They actually line up perfectly where's
you're going to your right. They have a tendency to
over rotate, so the ball goes to the left.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And there are exceptions to that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Kobe much better going right, Jordan going right, but like Lebron,
he never shoot jump shots going to his right. It's
always to his left. The reason Steph is a breakthrough
player is Steph is good off the catch. Steph goes right,
Steph goes left, and Steph can do what very few
people can do, which is called shooting off the switch,
which means most guys don't you switch hands. Usually you
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take a bounce like Damian Lillard takes a bounce and
then side steps.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He'll he'll switch hands and shoot the ball off. He
gets rid of it quick. He shoots right, he shoots left,
and he shoots catch and shoot very few some guys.
Can you guys remember Sidale three? Sedale three played for
the Lakers, okay, and Siddale three used to always he
had to shoot out of his left hand.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Anyway. I want to play for you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I know we got we gotta rav This is Dan
Patrick earlier today on the tweet.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Would you change Reggie Miller's shot if I'm gonna, you know,
go with Doug's logic here. Yes, Reggie had a weird
follow through. I just want to know where are you
when you release the ball. There are a lot of
people who look good shooting. Where are you when you
release the ball? And Caitlin starts on the left, would
you change Kevin Durant shot. He starts on the left
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and brings it over to the right. Right. So you know,
Doug's trolling people and wants people to respond to it,
and you know people then get personal with Doug. You
know what Doug is saying is all right?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Now?
Speaker 9 (17:36):
First of all, would you fix it in the off season?
Are you trying to tell me after she's twenty two
years of age and now she's going to change her
Why would I want her to change her shot unless
you said she's not gonna be able to get her
shot off in the pros in the WNBA. If that
were the case and she needed to release it quicker, okay,
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I would at least understand where the tweet's coming from.
But by all accounts, she hits shots from a variety
of places, variety of angles, with people all over her,
and offenses are defenses that were geared to stop.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You'm okay with that.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
It's like I'm okay with the shot.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You're fine, You're allowed trying to change, You're allowed to
be That would be hard pressed to do. I don't
think it would be hard pressed to do. Again, I
think you talk about Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller when he
graduated UCLA. It was the first year of the three
point shot. He shot forty four percent from three okay,
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and he shot a high volume of them for the time,
at five threes a game.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, Reggie Miller shot was funky. His hand was also
under the ball, but he shot with two hands. He
shot the well the same way.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Every time.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
There's the consistency, there's working through a flaw to shoot
the ball. Now, I know Reggie Miller's in the Hall
of Fame, I would challenge whether or not he should
be the most The highest Reggie ever finished in the
All Pro rankings was third team All Pro.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
And if there was a flawed to Reggi Miller, was
he struggled to shoot the ball off the dribble. He
did not shoot the ball off the dribble hardly at all.
It was he was unbelievable moving out the basketball. Maybe
catch one dribble up and shoot it. And was it
the way in which he released it?
Speaker 11 (19:16):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, I agree with Dan. It is the way in
which the shot is shot and finished. But shooting it
on the left side does hurt you from being able
to go right and again let's see how the first
year goes. I believe you have a deeper three point line.
You are playing against better competition, bigger, older ladies, and
there is of course you can work through your shot
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when you're twenty two years old. It's the exact same
shot that Lonzo Ball used to take, same shot, and
you're like, well, Lonzo Ball couldn't shoot shot forty two
percent from three in college. Not as good a free
throw shooter. That's the thing that people fall back on.
She's a very good free throw shooter. But I also
don't think she shoots it nearly that way when she
shoots some the free throw liner.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
I didn't pay close enough attention. But when she shoots
the free throw, does the ball start on the left too?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Don't think so?
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Think so so, which again makes it more impressive that
she can shoot it slightly differently and still be the
best women's basketball player in college. But the if it
would take you to forty two, forty three, forty four
percent from three, would you do it?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's a great question.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And again your response to it at the end, which
is it could screw her up. That's the whole thing.
Do you risk screwing it up by changing it. And
I'm not talking about wholesale changes. You move it over
slowly and you do it in the off season.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Tweak.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, but what happens is you say fix and people
freak out and the like well shouts thought broke. So
you don't need to fix it understood. It's more a
term of do you fix the mechanics of it.
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lead analyst for the NFL Network's coverage of the NFL Draft,
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Speaker 2 (21:27):
Weird Draft this year?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Weird and can I I'm just gonna tell you how
it felt from our perspective. Obviously, first rounds was so
much about quarterbacks, and then it did feel like second
and third day there was a lot, a lot more
lesser known commodities. And I'm trying to figure out if
it's because of the transfer portal because there wasn't quarterbacks
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or big name players like that, or the fact in
college football we only kind of pay attention to a
handful of teams now because of the playoff. How did
it feel to you in comparison to other drafts.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Yeah, I mean I knew all the guys, I had
watched all of them, But I said, kind of through
the process, this was a weird year because it was
the kind of the in between year where you have
nil more so even than the transfer portal, but just
nil being able to keep some kids in school. You
have the sixth year, the COVID year that a bunch
of people had, so that that just kind of almost
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eliminated a big chunk of a class. So I think
next year it'll get it'll kind of get back on track,
and I think you'll be more familiar with more of
the players once we get into the second third round.
But you know, this year, it was it was lean,
and that's why, you know, I thought it was smart
for teams that were doing two things in the draft.
You're trading up to get picks, you know, as many
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picks kind of as you can in that top fifty
sixty range. And then teams once you saw we got
to day three, you know, I know that, I know
Philadelphia did this. I believe the Jets a couple other
teams as well that started just sending out picks and
getting picks for next year. You know, trade a five
this year for four next year. I thought that was
pretty astute observation of kind of where we were with
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this particular draft.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Okay, so let's get to the actual first round draft.
What what pickle you scratching your head the most in
the first round?
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Well, I mean it's not I mean, I don't think
I'm going on a limb here and saying that. The
Michael Pennix to the Falcons was one that you know,
didn't have my bingo card. I knew they liked him.
I knew they'd done a lot of work on him.
I thought there was, you know, a chance they trade
back and he could potentially be in the mix, or
they take somebody at eight and then maybe they come
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back up and take him at the bottom of two,
or if he's there in the second round, they would
take him. But I didn't have it in my calculus
that they would just sit and pick and take him
with the eighth pick. So that was one that you know,
that was was pretty surprising to me. You know, outside
of that, I don't know that there, you know, some
of the other smaller stuff just in terms of the
on on offense went as long as it did before
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we saw a defensive player. I think it was the
first what fourteen picks for all offense, So that was
a little bit of a surprise. Is definitely an offensive
heavy draft. I knew that, and top heavy on the
offensive side of the ball, but I didn't imagine the
first defensive player would be you know, would be fifteen
there with Leatula to the Colts.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, I didn't think so. I didn't think so either.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So if the Falcons left us scratching our heads the most,
what was the one that you set there? Like what
do you think of bow knicks with the with the
Broncos Like that one's interesting to me. I know, his
numbers were great this year with Orgon. Yeah, but we
also we've seen him for a long time. He was older,
and he struggled at times on the road and definitely
struggled back when he was in the sec When you
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look at what and who he's replacing, who he's going
to work with, you know that that division better than
anybody on the face of the earth. What do you
think of bow Knicks being taken in a place where
he's going to be the starter in Denver?
Speaker 10 (25:01):
Yeah, I thought that was the spot for him. You know,
it's kind of one of those things where I think
if you're a if you're a scout who had a
good grade on bone Nicks, you were elated to see
him get draft by Denver because that that is by
far the best fit for him. It'll be the best
opportunity for him fitting in with what Sean Payton does
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in terms of protect the football. You know, quick decisions,
get the ball out of your hand, and then you
know strategic shots. You know they're not gonna it's not
going to be gratuitous with with vertical passing, but they'll
take their shots when they're when they're there, and you've
got somebody who's Sean Payton, who it was not a secret,
really really liked them. So you know, if he gets
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picked by another team, I think there'd be you'd be
sitting here going like, I don't know, it's how that's
gonna work, and you know a little bit limited on
the up side, but this would the one fit for him.
So you know, if I was in the bow Knicks camp,
I'd be very happy about the way that all worked out.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Stuck outlet show here on five Sports Radio. We we
talked a lot about the Washington Commanders and what they
were going to do at quarterback, and they did what
you thought they would do most people thought they would do.
What about the overall draft? Right, this is a new regime.
They're trying to completely turn this thing around. What do
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you think about what the commanders did?
Speaker 10 (26:23):
I liked it.
Speaker 11 (26:24):
You know.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
One of the things that we've been able to do
over the last couple of years is kind of take
my you know, top one fifty list and then instead
of like I always kind of chuckle at the draft grades,
I think they're really stupid personally. They don't make any
sense to me, and it's just you're just grabbing the
letter grade out of the sky. Whereas we can go
through and assign number value to it in terms of
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you know, if I if I have one hundred and
fifty players ranked the number one players worth one hundred
and fifty points. The number one hundred and fifty players
worth one point, and so it's pretty simple you add
that up. And when you do that with the way
I looked at the players, I had the Cardinals getting
the most point and I had the Commanders getting the
second most point. So in other words, they added a
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lot of impact players. And the other way you kind
of look at it is kind of like the points
over expected. So if you were picking one, your expectation
is you're going to get one hundred and fifty points
of value. So based off everywhere that you were, you
were picking and you look at that and say, okay,
what is the value of what you got compared to
where you were. The teams that came out at the
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top that way were Buffalo, you know, adding a lot
of value for where they were, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh. So those
would be the top three teams in that area. So
I'm trying. I'm trying to push this, Doug, because I
just love it.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I love it.
Speaker 10 (27:42):
I was better served than doing these dumb letter grades.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You know, I agree, you know you got the best,
you got you have more of the better players, right, yeah, more,
you got more of the better players. And I also
I commend Washington because you know you went with they
went with three seconds and two thirds. That by by
everyone's estimate, that's where the value is in the draft,
right where if you you know, you're so much the
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hit rate is slightly lower, but the the expense is
also lower as well. And you know you get five
in those in those two rounds and if you do
it right, you got it.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You got a chance. Okay. Uh so you mentioned the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yes, now, okay, so now that the plan has kind
of come together, right that all right, we got plans
kind of come together. What do you think of Russell
Wilson starting at quarterback with this group that the Steelers
now offishly have.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
I'm pretty bullish man. I think that they they had
a clear vision of what they would need there. I
think they went out really before they got Russell Wilson.
If you look at last year where this started. They
go out and get Broderick Jones in the first round,
a tackle out of Georgia who's really really talented. They
get Isaac Samalo from the the Eagles, who's a really
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good guard. So they get two starters last year, and
then they come back with this year, and they got
three stud offensive linemen, you know, including one of the
best left tackles and the kid from Washington and Fatanu
one of the best centers in Fraser and another good
interior lineman. So they you know, people also got to
remember they've got fire Mouth, who's a good tight end,
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and they've got Washington, who's a two hundred and eighty
pound tight end, behemoth Georgia. So Russell Wilson's going to
be out there playing. They're going to run the ball.
They're going to have the tight ends which are going
to give him some easy completions. He's got George Pickens.
When you're going to see loaded boxes, he's going to
be able to throw over the top of coverage, off
play action. All these things are when Russell Wilson's you know,
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truly was his best version of himself early on in
his career. He's not what he was then, but they
don't need him to be that with the defense they
have in Pittsburgh and with what they've done to kind
of establish the line of scrimmage on offense. I don't
want to say it's you know, it's it's quarterback proof
where nobody can go out there and do this. But
I think they have set up an environment that is very,
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very friendly for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I would say that's what we knew what the Chargers
were going to do, but they have made it very
clear what they're going to do. Right, we'll run the
ball and we're going to protect our quarterback. Is Alt
the right tackle or the left tackle.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
He's going to play on the right side, so they're
not going to move Slater. He's been an All Pro
there Alt already. You know, he kind of requested as
soon as he was picked, and you can this tells
you a little bit about you know, kind of the
guy he is and the worker he is. He's like, Hey,
I'm excited about this. Just let me know right or
left so I can just start wrapping it and working it.
You know. So I think the plan was conveyed to him.
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You're going to be on the right side, so he
could start, you know, working through the off season. And
I know, you know, we've talked about it, a lot
of people have talked about it. Okay, you're taking a
left and putting them on the right. And then you know,
when I step back and look at it and just go.
This guy was he's only played tackle for two years.
He was a tight end coming out of high school. Yeah,
so in two years he turned himself into the fifth
(31:03):
overall pick as a left tackle.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Lane Johnson like, n Yes, Yes.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
So in other words, I don't think the transition from
left to right tackle. He's done something much harder than that,
going from tight end to left tackle. So I think
he'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Is there wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Is Lad McConkie enough to give their wide receiver cord
to give Jess.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
De Herbert a chance?
Speaker 10 (31:22):
I think he's really good. Look, I still think when
you look at the championship version of a roster, like
you can say, okay, they're they're putting the foundation in place. Now,
I still think they need a you know, a one
you know going into the future. But I understand what
they were doing, which is you got to get the
big pieces in first. So they're going to take care
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of the line of scrimmage. And mccacky's a solid I
think he's gonna be really solid too. I think Palmer's
a solid two. So they've got a nice combination of
those guys. Quint Johnson hopefully takes a step forward, but
I don't see a one there, so, you know, I
think if they're going to be you know, I think
they're gonna be really competitive this I think they can
be a playoff team this year. But I think to
be at a championship level roster, I think they're going
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to need a one at some point in time. But
it's a lot easier once you have the offensive find
in place.
Speaker 11 (32:09):
Doug.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
Going into the future with trades or free agency or
the draft, you know, they've got the hard stuff done.
You can find wideouts every year.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, and they got some of those old They got
to give her some of those old contracts to get
maybe a big time wide receiver. Maybe they'll get somebody
in free agency or via trade who wants a new
deal or worn out as welcome elsewhere. Plenty plenty of
wide receivers who've worn out. There welcome at some point
in their career.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You've never worn out.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You're welcome. We love having you. You did a great job,
and thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
I appreciate that catch up.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
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But first, here's the press.
Speaker 12 (33:27):
The press.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Month to be what do you go?
Speaker 7 (33:34):
All right, We're gonna start in the NFL here Doug
so Pittsburgh Steelers. Jalen Warren, running back, was on Cam
on Cam Hayward's Not Just Football podcast, and he said
that special teams coordinator Danny Smith may have had an
idea when it comes to justin fields.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
And here's what Jalen Warren had to say.
Speaker 10 (33:56):
Our specialties coordinator was talking about justin fields being back there.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
I hold on breaking moves already.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
We looked at him like, justin, Phil, not beat that
back there?
Speaker 11 (34:06):
And you know it's I don't know, I think it's
I think it's cool.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
Be back where be back to return kickoffs.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Now, obviously there's a new rule change preventing players, you know,
from really possibly getting hurt with these returns, with these kickoffs,
but they're entertaining this idea of putting justin fields back there.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I mean, again, it's gonna be a weird year as
people try and figure out the new rules for Katah.
And you know one of the things that gives you now,
and he's a big body, but he can also throw
the football, and remember you can throw it backwards, Yeah,
throw it across the field, because it gives you a weapon.
I just I've never understood, never stood why you wouldn't
a guy who's a great runner.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And I know he wants to be a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
He's a quarterback, that's fine, But you can put packages
in when he's like a slash, he's a wide receiver,
he's a running back, and it gives you the threat
of any time you pitch it to him throwing the football.
You know, we did the Cordell Stewart by the way.
Lamar Jackson's before he became a starter. That's how they
used him.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
He's like a wide receiver and the slash, So I
definitely think it's the way to be creative. Kick and
punt return usually is guys that you don't want to
see hit, right, don't think that happens. But again, there's
new rules, the whole new world. We don't know how
it looks.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
So you're not super surprised.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I'm surprised, but again, it's like kicking around ideas does
not mean that you'll actually do.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
It for sure totally.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Well, today does mark the deadline for clubs to pick
up fifth year options on first rounders from twenty twenty one.
The Steelers have declined the fifth year option on running
back Najie Harris. ESPN reports that Pittsburgh is not ruling
out a deal later on, and the Colts have exercise
a fifth year option on defensive end Quitty pays contracts.
So those are the big ones that were left with
the question mark. Let's move on to the NBA. We
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did during game time, you know, destinations because teams are
getting eliminated, They're going to Cancun on vacation.
Speaker 13 (35:51):
Well, Matt Matt ishbi am I saying that, yeah, is
that okay? Right, So this is what he had to
say today about Sons and it's good. It's good.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Take a listen.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
Oh it's extremely fixable. I mean, let's just be real.
Although this isn't a cool narrative and the national media
really won't want to play it out there, but like,
ask the other twenty nine gms, twenty six of them
would trade their whole team for our whole team, and
our whole in our draft picks and everything as is, like,
the house is not on fire. We're in great position.
It's not hard to fix it. It's not like we're like, hey,
we don't have enough talent to win a champion.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
We have enough talent to win a championship.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
And he goes on to say that, yeah, we could
do little tweaks here and there, personnel this and that,
but he says that teams would take his entire roster
what they have right now.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I don't think twenty nine one. I think twenty nine one. Look,
I mean, like again, these are first world problems. To
have Devin Booker, to have Kevin Durant, it is the
first four problems, but there definitely needs to be some tweaking.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Is it fixable maybe? I mean it's gonna take some
a lot, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And look, in fairness, those guys weren't healthy and that
was Brad Beale first real look at the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It didn't do well, but we'll see.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I'm I I don't think it's a mess, but I
definitely think it's the first year it wasn't It wasn't
a great plan.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Let's come up with a better plan.
Speaker 13 (37:13):
Here.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Two and lastly, here the USGA announced that Tiger Woods
as a sect has accepted a special exemption that it's
going to allow him to compete in next month's the
US Open as it should be.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I mean, like, look, he's not yet ready to
be the Arnold Palmer hit the first ceremonial ball at
all and then go, you know, right around the kart
the rest of the day. But he still would Tiger.
And I do love this version of Tiger. I don't
know if you guy saw him on the Today's show,
he was amazing.
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That's the press bag, get out there and pressed.
Speaker 12 (37:41):
That was the press monsiere.
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It's like an every year thing, right, and they have
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Every year.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
James Harden stinks in the playoffs every year, Russell Westbrook
melts down every year.
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It feels like Kawhi Leonard is hurt every year.
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It feels like the Clippers bow out early, don't it,
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Nobody, nobody deserves that. Nobody deserves to see me with
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Speaker 2 (01:46):
If you missed last hour.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Jason said he wants to He wants to bungee jump
in New Zealand because they have the least amount of
restrictions possible.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, you can't sue them if you you know, dog
or if you're paralyzed.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, it's really hard to sue somebody if you die.
I just well, you're a state, I understand, but for
you personally, very very difficult to sue somebody if you die.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Your family can though, sure, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Is a state, isn't a strange New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
New Zealand seems like a very like buttoned up country
with like a lot of good laws. And then they're
yet they're like they have this, you can go there
and do risky business.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Risky business. I think everybody has something.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Every country just prioritizes. And our country is over wibless
and over what was it called when you see a
lot hold on?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Not litigious?
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Over religiousious. There's another word for slander. Those are this
written verses. Litigious is yes, we sue for everything. Litigation
over relatgigus.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
There's something.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You can also come here and you know have a
drink and no you can't did this country.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No, you'd be twenty one years old to have a
drink here. We have stricter laws than other things are country.
What separates our country, like our one good thing is
this thing called the constitution, which is supposed to protect
your ability to speak freely. The problem is that a
lot of people simply believe that you have freedom of speech.
You're like, Okay, I can say whatever I want to
(03:16):
whoever I want, wherever I want, and I have the
right to freely protest wherever I want. Like, yeah, there's
some actual there's there's some fine print in there, right,
there's some fine print in there. I'm guessing there's some
fine print in the New Zealand thing, just just letting
you know, gotta be some fine print in there. But
our country, like the big thing is a melting pot.
(03:37):
You can kind of like find your people being from
somewhere else wherever you are. And the whole free speech
thing like yeah, you know, let's like you're free to
practice religion as long as it doesn't impinge on my right.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
There are a lot of freedoms here, So I mean,
like now you can come here and it's like becoming
the weed capital of the world.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You can come here. There's more vices. You can get
the vices in this country.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And don't get me started on the for profit healthcare
system and don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I not well, you got amsterd Amsterdam was traditionally known
as the where you go if you want to you
want to do we drugs, prostitution, right, you have to
try to. You tried to have the red zone whatever anyway,
red light district, red light district.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's it. That's it. Uh let's get into what is
uh am I still trending on Twitter?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Jase, do you were trending on Twitter? Yesterday, Am I
training on Twitter?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
No? No, no, now it's over. You know the new cycle.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I I don't look to see if I'm training on Twitter.
I just asked, thought you.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Or you get emails when you're trending on Twitter? No?
You don't have notifications?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
No should I is that something worth doing? How do
you find out what's trending on Twitter?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay, so right now Jayhawks a AI A great Ostboro,
also Borrow and Najie Harris are our training on Twitter.
But yesterday your boy was was trending? Now do we
want want to go back to the tweet and act
like people haven't? Like again, some of the rules of
(05:04):
doing this job is don't talk about what you want
to talk about. Talk about what more people want to
talk about.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I would say good derivative and don't assume just.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That's that's big, right, don't assume that's that's that was
the rule.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm getting to be anti Iowa. Sam would just be
very concise.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, Sam, it's not concise.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I actually am, But you know.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, you're not. No one thinks you're not. Uh Rich listen, listen, listen.
I love you, but you continue to talk. That actually
plays into what we're talking about. Okay, the play plays
into it anyway. So here's what happened. I was sitting here,
actually in this very chair. It's a pretty comfortable chair,
(05:43):
and I was watching a highlight that came across of
of Caitlin Clark, and she's playing it looks like two
on two, three on three at practice, maybe five on five,
and she shoots a sidestep jump shot, and I was
watching it in real time, and then I I've freeze
framed or froze an image, which would it be frozen image?
(06:07):
And the point of her release the ball is to
the left side of her head. It actually looks very
similar to Lonzo balls shot before when he was in
college and his first year or so in the NBA
with the Lakers. And you know, I happen to have
watched Caitlyn play a lot and know that she doesn't
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shoot off the dribble really going to her right, and
that she shot about thirty seven and a half percent
from three this year, which is not a terrible percent.
It's not like Gottlieb type numbers, but it's also not elite.
It's the only part of her offensive game, which you
would say isn't elite in terms of statistically, you know,
she below fifty percent from the field, she'd a little high,
(06:50):
a little bit more efficient now she takes a lot
of deep ones.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And so when I watched it, I was like, huh,
that's interesting. And I have lots of friends in basketball.
My life outside of Fox Sports Radio is really in basketball.
I run a basketball program, my coach basketball. I have
basketball friends that my kids. That's kind of all I got, right.
(07:18):
So Mike Procorpoo was like the video guy and helped
analyze Kobe Bryant, somebody who Pro has worked with lots
of different NBA players and NBA teams. So I tweeted
at him and I said, the amount of work it
takes to be consistent through her mechanical flaw is really impressive.
(07:40):
If you were advising her, would you fix it in
the off season? At Hoop Consultants at Food Consultants is
Mike Procorpio's Twitter handle. So Pro responded several times over
and said, you know, it's probably something she developed over
time when she was younger to try and get the
ball there, and you know, it doesn't think it's a
(08:02):
major issue, but would probably basically say, would probably, you know,
work to fine tune it in the off season.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
This thing is.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Blown up, and is blown up to the level of
let's let's let's do a little check on it. Analytics
are eleven million impressions, one hundred and four thousand engagements,
eighty one detail expands, fifty one thousand profile visits, and
(08:34):
I picked up twenty nine new followers.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Huh huh.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So there has been every single kind of response. My
favorite ones, MANCI are that I'm man's splaining, a man's splaining.
Help me out, how is that man splaining?
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I don't know how that is man splaining, but I will,
can I be honest with you? Of course you can't
be surprised that this is the reaction that Doug Gottlie
got when saying something about Caitlin Clark that was not
a full positive thing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Right because people can't actually have reasonable analysis of her.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I think that's true, but I also think.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, no, no, I know it's true. I have proof right
here on my phone, but they can't. Actually they can't.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Actually it's by the way, by the way, okay, I
just I just I want you to read this. I
want to read the sentence for you, and you tell
me the amount of work it takes to be consistent
through her mechanical flaw is really impressive. Okay, So to
be consistent, which is really what it takes to be
a very good shooter a player. Okay, amount of work.
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She has great work ethic, and it's impressive mechanical flaw.
People will go like, mechanical flaw. It is a mechanical flaw.
There's there is no denying it.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No one teaches you to shoot the ball starting on
the left side of your head, no one. There is
not anybody. I have been to a million shooting coaches myself,
and I've taken my son to a one hundred different workouts.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
There is not one human being alive.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
That goes, hey, here's how we're going to start your
shot over on the left side, slinging over to the
right and shoot your thumb. Nobody teaches that, you know, yes, okay,
So by definition it's a mechanical flaw.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
And it was kind of like backhanded compliment.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
She makes it in spite of this. Yeah, like, but
she had to work really really hard to do.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
It I I a backhand.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No, it's fine, You're allowed to.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Here's the issue, Okay, if you want to play in
the deep pool, you gotta swim with the sharks. Sure, okay,
And there's not even criticism. I didn't say shiting guardianbody.
I just said, like, hey, look at her shot. It
starts on the left side of her head.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Right, which is not how you would teach anyone to
shoot a ball.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And she's worked hard to overcome and become a great
player and score more points than anybody in women's college
basketball history, despite the fact she starts the ball on
the left side.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Of her head, right.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
So she's not gonna change anything.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Now, why wouldn't she?
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Why would she?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Because she's shooting thirty seven percent from three. Ideally you
want to shoot in the low forties from three.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
Okay, she's not far from that. She could probably she
could probably do that with her own shot.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Don't you think it would be more detrimental to her
to completely change what she's been doing that is successful
for her?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So that's now, that's a really good question. That's basically
what I asked my porpoo, which is, you're at thirty
seven do you move it over. Do you start on
the right side? Do you move it over to the middle?
And I said, you wait till the off season. You
don't do it right now. You don't have the time
to do it right now. Yeah, yeah, screw it all up.
It takes a lot, a lot of reps, okay to
make that thing work, and you just it's it's it's
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the old ten thousand hours and you got to move
that to move that shot over. But the shot is
incredibly similar.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I need to I need to a couple of things here,
a couple of things. So when you say off season
what you just explained, I didn't know that's what you meant,
because I think a lot of the criticism or that
a lot of the reactions you're getting is she just
broke the record, now you want to change her shot immediately.
I think they assume the off season is this between
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the n C double season and the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, no, no, the WNBA season ends.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
WNBA season ends, And that's not clear I think because
of any comments.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Again, again, because you have people who don't know anything
about anything. Hey, they don't. They're like I've had tweets
say she's the greatest shooter in NCA Beast mystery. Like, no,
she's not, No, she's not she's not the greatest shooter.
She's not a bad shooter, but she's not a great shooter. Okay,
she's really good.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
She's a good scorer. Correct, Yes, there's a difference.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Correct, she's a great officer, she's a great offensive player.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
People don't understand the different scene shooter and score. They
don't understand different scene cutter. You know, there's we call
it slashers, but you can score to cut you know,
I mean, like listen, Shay Gildas. Alexander's perfect example. Right,
he's not a great three point shooters and shoot.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
A hig volume.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He's unbelievable, like five seven feet in. I never see
anything like it. You know, Kyrie is saying what Kyrie
is a finisher. People don't nder that like finishing. They
think they've thought for years Russell Westbrook is a great
finisher because he goes in and he'll dunk and yell.
The analytics tell you he's actually a terribly inefficient finisher.
Like the biggest flawed of Russell Westbrook in his prime
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was he was a bad finisher. You can be a
subpar three point shooter back, especially back in that era.
But if you don't, if you can't make a high
percentage of finishes, whereas Kyrie an unbelievable finisher.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Anyway, So just so you know, Jase Dow, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
The off season and this is a lot like Lonzo ball,
where you get drafted in I said June, you play
a little summer league and then you're in training camp
in October. There's not the time there to change your shot.
You got to wait till after your first season. Okay,
So after your first season in the WNBA, it's like September,
September up until April or May. If she's I don't
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believe she's gonna go overseas and play, she doesn't have to.
She's gonna make enough money with Nike women only that
traditionally to make a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Maybe she does.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But even in that, that provides you the time because
you you only play sometimes once or twice a week, depending,
but that would be the time in which you go
and you tweak your shot, fix your shot if you.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Want to change the verbiage to it, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But the way that real basketball people talk is are
you gonna fix that or are you gonna leave it?
And what you're saying, MANSI is really really that's the
interesting part because do you go like, you know what,
it's worked.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's not screwed up.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
She probably won't be perfect with it, may not shoot,
you know, forty two, forty three from three, but it works, like, don't.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Screw with it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It screws with their head.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Some people, you move that thing over, you change it,
you change it. And I think somewhere in between a
dramatic change and not doing anything, I would guess the
first thing is I actually think she developed this in
the last year, year and a half or so, because
if you look, the numbers have actually gone down this year.
And I think she's done it because the defense is
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completely built around stopping her, and they pick her up
so deep she takes deeper shots, and it's a it's
a way to generate more power more quickly. And I
think it's kind of I don't want to say it's
screwed up her shot, but it's a it's it's a
bit of a flaw, and I think it will limit
her ability to shoot off the dribble going to her right,
you know, so people will funnel her right and play
for her to drive going right. And if you look,
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and I've had people go like, look at the percentage
of for going right, that's fine. I've watched the games
and everybody plays for probably push her right where she's
going to make plays going to the basket or shoot.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And and for the record.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And I think my buddy Brian yank Kellovitch, who's a
former player at Long Beach State and assistant coach, he
pointed out most righties. I don't know if you guys
know this in basketball, which way do right handers like
to go to shoot jump shots?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But I guess, Sam well, I guess it would stand
a reason. You got your right hand right right.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's actually easier to go to your left because your shoulders.
As your shoulders turn, they don't over rotate when you're
going to your right. They actually line up perfectly where's
you're going to your right. They have a tendency to
over rotate, so the ball goes to the left.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And there are exceptions to that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Kobe much better going right, Jordan going right, but like Lebron,
he never shoot jump shots going to his right. It's
always to his left. The reason Steph is a breakthrough
player is Steph is good off the catch. Steph goes right,
Steph goes left, and Steph can do what very few
people can do, which is called shooting off the switch,
which means most guys don't you switch hands. Usually you
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take a bounce like Damian Lillard takes a bounce and
then side steps.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He'll he'll switch hands and shoot the ball off. He
gets rid of it quick. He shoots right, he shoots left,
and he shoots catch and shoot very few some guys.
Can you guys remember Sidale three? Sedale three played for
the Lakers, okay, and Siddale three used to always he
had to shoot out of his left hand.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Anyway. I want to play for you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I know we got we gotta rav This is Dan
Patrick earlier today on the tweet.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Would you change Reggie Miller's shot if I'm gonna, you know,
go with Doug's logic here. Yes, Reggie had a weird
follow through. I just want to know where are you
when you release the ball. There are a lot of
people who look good shooting. Where are you when you
release the ball? And Caitlin starts on the left, would
you change Kevin Durant shot. He starts on the left
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and brings it over to the right. Right. So you know,
Doug's trolling people and wants people to respond to it,
and you know people then get personal with Doug. You
know what Doug is saying is all right?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Now?
Speaker 9 (17:36):
First of all, would you fix it in the off season?
Are you trying to tell me after she's twenty two
years of age and now she's going to change her
Why would I want her to change her shot unless
you said she's not gonna be able to get her
shot off in the pros in the WNBA. If that
were the case and she needed to release it quicker, okay,
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I would at least understand where the tweet's coming from.
But by all accounts, she hits shots from a variety
of places, variety of angles, with people all over her,
and offenses are defenses that were geared to stop.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You'm okay with that.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
It's like I'm okay with the shot.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You're fine, You're allowed trying to change, You're allowed to
be That would be hard pressed to do. I don't
think it would be hard pressed to do. Again, I
think you talk about Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller when he
graduated UCLA. It was the first year of the three
point shot. He shot forty four percent from three okay,
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and he shot a high volume of them for the time,
at five threes a game.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, Reggie Miller shot was funky. His hand was also
under the ball, but he shot with two hands. He
shot the well the same way.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Every time.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
There's the consistency, there's working through a flaw to shoot
the ball. Now, I know Reggie Miller's in the Hall
of Fame, I would challenge whether or not he should
be the most The highest Reggie ever finished in the
All Pro rankings was third team All Pro.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
And if there was a flawed to Reggi Miller, was
he struggled to shoot the ball off the dribble. He
did not shoot the ball off the dribble hardly at all.
It was he was unbelievable moving out the basketball. Maybe
catch one dribble up and shoot it. And was it
the way in which he released it?
Speaker 11 (19:16):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, I agree with Dan. It is the way in
which the shot is shot and finished. But shooting it
on the left side does hurt you from being able
to go right and again let's see how the first
year goes. I believe you have a deeper three point line.
You are playing against better competition, bigger, older ladies, and
there is of course you can work through your shot
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when you're twenty two years old. It's the exact same
shot that Lonzo Ball used to take, same shot, and
you're like, well, Lonzo Ball couldn't shoot shot forty two
percent from three in college. Not as good a free
throw shooter. That's the thing that people fall back on.
She's a very good free throw shooter. But I also
don't think she shoots it nearly that way when she
shoots some the free throw liner.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
I didn't pay close enough attention. But when she shoots
the free throw, does the ball start on the left too?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Don't think so?
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Think so so, which again makes it more impressive that
she can shoot it slightly differently and still be the
best women's basketball player in college. But the if it
would take you to forty two, forty three, forty four
percent from three, would you do it?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's a great question.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And again your response to it at the end, which
is it could screw her up. That's the whole thing.
Do you risk screwing it up by changing it. And
I'm not talking about wholesale changes. You move it over
slowly and you do it in the off season.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Tweak.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, but what happens is you say fix and people
freak out and the like well shouts thought broke. So
you don't need to fix it understood. It's more a
term of do you fix the mechanics of it.
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Speaker 2 (21:27):
Weird Draft this year?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Weird and can I I'm just gonna tell you how
it felt from our perspective. Obviously, first rounds was so
much about quarterbacks, and then it did feel like second
and third day there was a lot, a lot more
lesser known commodities. And I'm trying to figure out if
it's because of the transfer portal because there wasn't quarterbacks
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or big name players like that, or the fact in
college football we only kind of pay attention to a
handful of teams now because of the playoff. How did
it feel to you in comparison to other drafts.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Yeah, I mean I knew all the guys, I had
watched all of them, But I said, kind of through
the process, this was a weird year because it was
the kind of the in between year where you have
nil more so even than the transfer portal, but just
nil being able to keep some kids in school. You
have the sixth year, the COVID year that a bunch
of people had, so that that just kind of almost
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eliminated a big chunk of a class. So I think
next year it'll get it'll kind of get back on track,
and I think you'll be more familiar with more of
the players once we get into the second third round.
But you know, this year, it was it was lean,
and that's why, you know, I thought it was smart
for teams that were doing two things in the draft.
You're trading up to get picks, you know, as many
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picks kind of as you can in that top fifty
sixty range. And then teams once you saw we got
to day three, you know, I know that, I know
Philadelphia did this. I believe the Jets a couple other
teams as well that started just sending out picks and
getting picks for next year. You know, trade a five
this year for four next year. I thought that was
pretty astute observation of kind of where we were with
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this particular draft.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Okay, so let's get to the actual first round draft.
What what pickle you scratching your head the most in
the first round?
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Well, I mean it's not I mean, I don't think
I'm going on a limb here and saying that. The
Michael Pennix to the Falcons was one that you know,
didn't have my bingo card. I knew they liked him.
I knew they'd done a lot of work on him.
I thought there was, you know, a chance they trade
back and he could potentially be in the mix, or
they take somebody at eight and then maybe they come
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back up and take him at the bottom of two,
or if he's there in the second round, they would
take him. But I didn't have it in my calculus
that they would just sit and pick and take him
with the eighth pick. So that was one that you know,
that was was pretty surprising to me. You know, outside
of that, I don't know that there, you know, some
of the other smaller stuff just in terms of the
on on offense went as long as it did before
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we saw a defensive player. I think it was the
first what fourteen picks for all offense, So that was
a little bit of a surprise. Is definitely an offensive
heavy draft. I knew that, and top heavy on the
offensive side of the ball, but I didn't imagine the
first defensive player would be you know, would be fifteen
there with Leatula to the Colts.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, I didn't think so. I didn't think so either.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So if the Falcons left us scratching our heads the most,
what was the one that you set there? Like what
do you think of bow knicks with the with the
Broncos Like that one's interesting to me. I know, his
numbers were great this year with Orgon. Yeah, but we
also we've seen him for a long time. He was older,
and he struggled at times on the road and definitely
struggled back when he was in the sec When you
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look at what and who he's replacing, who he's going
to work with, you know that that division better than
anybody on the face of the earth. What do you
think of bow Knicks being taken in a place where
he's going to be the starter in Denver?
Speaker 10 (25:01):
Yeah, I thought that was the spot for him. You know,
it's kind of one of those things where I think
if you're a if you're a scout who had a
good grade on bone Nicks, you were elated to see
him get draft by Denver because that that is by
far the best fit for him. It'll be the best
opportunity for him fitting in with what Sean Payton does
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in terms of protect the football. You know, quick decisions,
get the ball out of your hand, and then you
know strategic shots. You know they're not gonna it's not
going to be gratuitous with with vertical passing, but they'll
take their shots when they're when they're there, and you've
got somebody who's Sean Payton, who it was not a secret,
really really liked them. So you know, if he gets
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picked by another team, I think there'd be you'd be
sitting here going like, I don't know, it's how that's
gonna work, and you know a little bit limited on
the up side, but this would the one fit for him.
So you know, if I was in the bow Knicks camp,
I'd be very happy about the way that all worked out.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Stuck outlet show here on five Sports Radio. We we
talked a lot about the Washington Commanders and what they
were going to do at quarterback, and they did what
you thought they would do most people thought they would do.
What about the overall draft? Right, this is a new regime.
They're trying to completely turn this thing around. What do
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you think about what the commanders did?
Speaker 10 (26:23):
I liked it.
Speaker 11 (26:24):
You know.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
One of the things that we've been able to do
over the last couple of years is kind of take
my you know, top one fifty list and then instead
of like I always kind of chuckle at the draft grades,
I think they're really stupid personally. They don't make any
sense to me, and it's just you're just grabbing the
letter grade out of the sky. Whereas we can go
through and assign number value to it in terms of
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you know, if I if I have one hundred and
fifty players ranked the number one players worth one hundred
and fifty points. The number one hundred and fifty players
worth one point, and so it's pretty simple you add
that up. And when you do that with the way
I looked at the players, I had the Cardinals getting
the most point and I had the Commanders getting the
second most point. So in other words, they added a
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lot of impact players. And the other way you kind
of look at it is kind of like the points
over expected. So if you were picking one, your expectation
is you're going to get one hundred and fifty points
of value. So based off everywhere that you were, you
were picking and you look at that and say, okay,
what is the value of what you got compared to
where you were. The teams that came out at the
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top that way were Buffalo, you know, adding a lot
of value for where they were, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh. So those
would be the top three teams in that area. So
I'm trying. I'm trying to push this, Doug, because I
just love it.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I love it.
Speaker 10 (27:42):
I was better served than doing these dumb letter grades.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You know, I agree, you know you got the best,
you got you have more of the better players, right, yeah, more,
you got more of the better players. And I also
I commend Washington because you know you went with they
went with three seconds and two thirds. That by by
everyone's estimate, that's where the value is in the draft,
right where if you you know, you're so much the
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hit rate is slightly lower, but the the expense is
also lower as well. And you know you get five
in those in those two rounds and if you do
it right, you got it.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You got a chance. Okay. Uh so you mentioned the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yes, now, okay, so now that the plan has kind
of come together, right that all right, we got plans
kind of come together. What do you think of Russell
Wilson starting at quarterback with this group that the Steelers
now offishly have.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
I'm pretty bullish man. I think that they they had
a clear vision of what they would need there. I
think they went out really before they got Russell Wilson.
If you look at last year where this started. They
go out and get Broderick Jones in the first round,
a tackle out of Georgia who's really really talented. They
get Isaac Samalo from the the Eagles, who's a really
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good guard. So they get two starters last year, and
then they come back with this year, and they got
three stud offensive linemen, you know, including one of the
best left tackles and the kid from Washington and Fatanu
one of the best centers in Fraser and another good
interior lineman. So they you know, people also got to
remember they've got fire Mouth, who's a good tight end,
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and they've got Washington, who's a two hundred and eighty
pound tight end, behemoth Georgia. So Russell Wilson's going to
be out there playing. They're going to run the ball.
They're going to have the tight ends which are going
to give him some easy completions. He's got George Pickens.
When you're going to see loaded boxes, he's going to
be able to throw over the top of coverage, off
play action. All these things are when Russell Wilson's you know,
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truly was his best version of himself early on in
his career. He's not what he was then, but they
don't need him to be that with the defense they
have in Pittsburgh and with what they've done to kind
of establish the line of scrimmage on offense. I don't
want to say it's you know, it's it's quarterback proof
where nobody can go out there and do this. But
I think they have set up an environment that is very,
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very friendly for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I would say that's what we knew what the Chargers
were going to do, but they have made it very
clear what they're going to do. Right, we'll run the
ball and we're going to protect our quarterback. Is Alt
the right tackle or the left tackle.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
He's going to play on the right side, so they're
not going to move Slater. He's been an All Pro
there Alt already. You know, he kind of requested as
soon as he was picked, and you can this tells
you a little bit about you know, kind of the
guy he is and the worker he is. He's like, Hey,
I'm excited about this. Just let me know right or
left so I can just start wrapping it and working it.
You know. So I think the plan was conveyed to him.
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You're going to be on the right side, so he
could start, you know, working through the off season. And
I know, you know, we've talked about it, a lot
of people have talked about it. Okay, you're taking a
left and putting them on the right. And then you know,
when I step back and look at it and just go.
This guy was he's only played tackle for two years.
He was a tight end coming out of high school. Yeah,
so in two years he turned himself into the fifth
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overall pick as a left tackle.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Lane Johnson like, n Yes, Yes.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
So in other words, I don't think the transition from
left to right tackle. He's done something much harder than that,
going from tight end to left tackle. So I think
he'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Is there wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Is Lad McConkie enough to give their wide receiver cord
to give Jess.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
De Herbert a chance?
Speaker 10 (31:22):
I think he's really good. Look, I still think when
you look at the championship version of a roster, like
you can say, okay, they're they're putting the foundation in place. Now,
I still think they need a you know, a one
you know going into the future. But I understand what
they were doing, which is you got to get the
big pieces in first. So they're going to take care
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of the line of scrimmage. And mccacky's a solid I
think he's gonna be really solid too. I think Palmer's
a solid two. So they've got a nice combination of
those guys. Quint Johnson hopefully takes a step forward, but
I don't see a one there, so, you know, I
think if they're going to be you know, I think
they're gonna be really competitive this I think they can
be a playoff team this year. But I think to
be at a championship level roster, I think they're going
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to need a one at some point in time. But
it's a lot easier once you have the offensive find
in place.
Speaker 11 (32:09):
Doug.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
Going into the future with trades or free agency or
the draft, you know, they've got the hard stuff done.
You can find wideouts every year.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, and they got some of those old They got
to give her some of those old contracts to get
maybe a big time wide receiver. Maybe they'll get somebody
in free agency or via trade who wants a new
deal or worn out as welcome elsewhere. Plenty plenty of
wide receivers who've worn out. There welcome at some point
in their career.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You've never worn out.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You're welcome. We love having you. You did a great job,
and thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
I appreciate that catch up.
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But first, here's the press.
Speaker 12 (33:27):
The press.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Month to be what do you go?
Speaker 7 (33:34):
All right, We're gonna start in the NFL here Doug
so Pittsburgh Steelers. Jalen Warren, running back, was on Cam
on Cam Hayward's Not Just Football podcast, and he said
that special teams coordinator Danny Smith may have had an
idea when it comes to justin fields.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
And here's what Jalen Warren had to say.
Speaker 10 (33:56):
Our specialties coordinator was talking about justin fields being back there.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
I hold on breaking moves already.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
We looked at him like, justin, Phil, not beat that
back there?
Speaker 11 (34:06):
And you know it's I don't know, I think it's
I think it's cool.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
Be back where be back to return kickoffs.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Now, obviously there's a new rule change preventing players, you know,
from really possibly getting hurt with these returns, with these kickoffs,
but they're entertaining this idea of putting justin fields back there.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I mean, again, it's gonna be a weird year as
people try and figure out the new rules for Katah.
And you know one of the things that gives you now,
and he's a big body, but he can also throw
the football, and remember you can throw it backwards, Yeah,
throw it across the field, because it gives you a weapon.
I just I've never understood, never stood why you wouldn't
a guy who's a great runner.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And I know he wants to be a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
He's a quarterback, that's fine, But you can put packages
in when he's like a slash, he's a wide receiver,
he's a running back, and it gives you the threat
of any time you pitch it to him throwing the football.
You know, we did the Cordell Stewart by the way.
Lamar Jackson's before he became a starter. That's how they
used him.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
He's like a wide receiver and the slash, So I
definitely think it's the way to be creative. Kick and
punt return usually is guys that you don't want to
see hit, right, don't think that happens. But again, there's
new rules, the whole new world. We don't know how
it looks.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
So you're not super surprised.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I'm surprised, but again, it's like kicking around ideas does
not mean that you'll actually do.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
It for sure totally.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Well, today does mark the deadline for clubs to pick
up fifth year options on first rounders from twenty twenty one.
The Steelers have declined the fifth year option on running
back Najie Harris. ESPN reports that Pittsburgh is not ruling
out a deal later on, and the Colts have exercise
a fifth year option on defensive end Quitty pays contracts.
So those are the big ones that were left with
the question mark. Let's move on to the NBA. We
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did during game time, you know, destinations because teams are
getting eliminated, They're going to Cancun on vacation.
Speaker 13 (35:51):
Well, Matt Matt ishbi am I saying that, yeah, is
that okay? Right, So this is what he had to
say today about Sons and it's good. It's good.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Take a listen.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
Oh it's extremely fixable. I mean, let's just be real.
Although this isn't a cool narrative and the national media
really won't want to play it out there, but like,
ask the other twenty nine gms, twenty six of them
would trade their whole team for our whole team, and
our whole in our draft picks and everything as is, like,
the house is not on fire. We're in great position.
It's not hard to fix it. It's not like we're like, hey,
we don't have enough talent to win a champion.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
We have enough talent to win a championship.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
And he goes on to say that, yeah, we could
do little tweaks here and there, personnel this and that,
but he says that teams would take his entire roster
what they have right now.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I don't think twenty nine one. I think twenty nine one. Look,
I mean, like again, these are first world problems. To
have Devin Booker, to have Kevin Durant, it is the
first four problems, but there definitely needs to be some tweaking.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Is it fixable maybe? I mean it's gonna take some
a lot, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And look, in fairness, those guys weren't healthy and that
was Brad Beale first real look at the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It didn't do well, but we'll see.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I'm I I don't think it's a mess, but I
definitely think it's the first year it wasn't It wasn't
a great plan.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Let's come up with a better plan.
Speaker 13 (37:13):
Here.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Two and lastly, here the USGA announced that Tiger Woods
as a sect has accepted a special exemption that it's
going to allow him to compete in next month's the
US Open as it should be.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I mean, like, look, he's not yet ready to
be the Arnold Palmer hit the first ceremonial ball at
all and then go, you know, right around the kart
the rest of the day. But he still would Tiger.
And I do love this version of Tiger. I don't
know if you guy saw him on the Today's show,
he was amazing.
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