April 30, 2024 • 35 mins
On this week's version of "Love AND Hate" Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most about their sports weekend. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about all of the major headlines around the NBA playoffs. Plus, Dan takes Doug through a Monday edition of "The Press".
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You know what.
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I'm not going to solicit Dan's take on Jeopardy just
yet because it does work out well with love and hate.
Are there parts to it he loves he's allowed to share.
Are there parts to it he hates he's allowed to share?
So I don't know what his answer is. He may
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Speaker 4 (02:00):
What did you love? God?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I Love you?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
These player Hays.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Dan Bayer Love and Hey what'd you love? From the weekend?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Danny A personal note, Yeah, my son's birthday we talked
about that was last week, and so he got a
variety of gifts and I was actually really worried that
he would just want to play with all of his
old toys. That has not been the case. It has
been new toy after new toy, which is very rewarding
as a parent and for others that have gotten him
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new toys. He seems to be playing with all of
the new stuff, which means that your purchase power, your
buying knowledge was correct. Like you were in that you
did well. You did well as a parent. Cost per use,
Yeah really and yees. So I was very excited. I
bought theom as like real golf club, just a small, tiny,
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little nine iron. And while I didn't love the neighbor
girl trying to hit the the foam golf balls off
of the driveway, I did like to see the club
being swung in the yard. So that was nice.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, we'll come We'll circle back to sports one in
a second. What do you got there, Jase, Do something
you loved? I know this is against like your normal
persona to say you liked something, But what would you
love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I kind of like watching a football team draft a
team having exactly one confidence in the decision makers.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You never quite knew.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I know your buddies with Telesco, but there was a
there's always been kind of a Spanos involvement in these
draft picks, and the Chargers just seemed to put all
their faith in Harbaugh and this GM that they brought
over from his brother's team, and I just to me,
I'm in full faith in Harbaugh mode. I'm not going
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to question any of these decisions nothing. Brandon Staley was
an abject failure and I'm going to try to forget
about that, and I'm just gonna put all my faith
into one guy. And I kind of like to watch
the drop picks come in with that.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Okay, I was sam, I don't really have anything to
add to this segment.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Wow, yeah, okay, fair enough. I'm actually going to second that.
Like this weekend I thought stunk in sports unless you
were a fan of a team that won, Like it was,
you know, awful obviously for me as a Bucks fan.
But there was the draft I felt was boring on Saturday,
Like I felt like I reached my limits for the
first time in many years. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I hear you, guys. I agree. I'm going to give
you a couple of things I love though, mind. I
love Anthony Edwards. I mean, obviously the dunk was so ferocious,
but I like that he plays with a mile on
his face? Is that weird? Like, I again, you could
be as competitive as hell, but like, I like that
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he's having fun. Now. Part of it is you're winning,
You're kicking the son's asses. That's got to be fun.
I just I don't know. I like I just like
the persona. I like that. I also like all of
these idiots who killed the Timberwolves. Okay, who killed the
timber Wolves for what are you doing? Move haven't heard
for Rudy Gobert. You're not paying attention to the league.
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The league has gone away from small ball and gone
to you gotta be skilled and first of all, but
you gotta be big. The defending champions are who you're chasing, right,
That's who you're chasing. They are the favorite for a reason,
and they start six nine six ' ten seven foot
across the front line. And that's why the Timberwolves went
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out and said, hey, we know where this league's going.
And then oh yeah, by the way, they added Mike
Conley too, who's just been awesome. But I love I
really like that watching that team play. But I really
love watching Anthony Verwards play with a smile on his face.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Was it this weekend where he got some stuff on
Twitter for he had some kind of a pelvic motion.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yes, in the middle of the court.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yes, what did we think about that?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
And exactly what is he doing?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It felt like he was doing the Rick Flair, didn't
he The DX chop?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay? Yeah, X chop?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
That is that a wrestling the.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Generation X Yes from WWE. Okay, all right, yes, Sam's
giving a tea round.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I mean, like, listen, if you want to clutch your
pearls when you're watching it, you're allowed to whatever. It
was only two pumps though, because we know in the
NFL the third pump is what gets you the flag,
right or is that just a key and peel? I'm
not sure. I also, I love that the NFL Draft
is over because it's boring. It's actually usually boring. And
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what I hate are two things that I know Jason
Stewart hates. Okay, and we'll get to that, so this
kind of works with the hates that I know are coming.
But I love the fact that the draft is over
because all of the idiots out there who pretend like
they know who's really good player who's not. I'm not
talking about people in the NFL. I'm talking about guys
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that do radio shows, guys that tweet like you don't
know anything. It's not your job to know anything, and
yet we act like we know what the left guard
from McNee state is going to do when he takes
on the Detroit Lions. We have no idea, but we
do draft grades because of it. So there's this whole
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cottage industry, and I respect the guys that do it.
I don't like the people that don't have any clue
what they're doing talking about it with authority, and I'm
glad that's over. Let's get to what we hate. Okay,
So he didn't love it kids, which means, well, Dan,
do you want to start with your feelings about Jeopardy?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, I I'm honestly, Doug, I'm mixed on Jeopardy. That's
kind of the whole conversation on it. It's where there's
some really good things going with it and then it
takes a turn for which is why I feel like
it's an interesting discussion on how do you try to
squeeze as much juice out of that orange? And I
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just don't know if they're squeezing the you know, the
right part. Maybe they're just squeezing the peel. I'm not sure.
I hated this weekend in the NBA, not only because
of the Buck scenario, which you'll dive into in a second,
but also it's the second straight week like Saturday's game
stunk like aside from the Lakers changing a little of
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that momentum and not being swept, it was blowout city again,
and we had that the week prior when the when
the playoffs tipped off, and then on the Buck side
of things, Friday was crazy, Chris Middleton keeping them afloat
with some great shot making at the end, trying to
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trying to keep that series alive, and then just really
having no chance yesterday, And all anybody could say was like,
I give credit to the Bucks for trying, because at
one point they didn't have Giannis Dame Bobby Portis who
got ejected, and then Chris Middleton actually had to leave
early in the second half like that was their team,
and yet still hung around with the Pacers who had
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to shoot over fifty percent from three to actually get
this done. And so it's it's frustrating because there really
wasn't anything I've said all season long, Doug when We've
talked about the Bucks just wait till the playoffs, because
that's all that matters after last year, and then to
have this be an incomplete it's not even an f
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it's an incomplete because you don't even know if it's
going to work or not, probably not in the future,
but just very very disappointing that the season has come
to an end like this because it's over, like there's
no way that Yiannis and Dame are gonna playing five.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yep, agreed, We'll ask Rick Buker. He you joined us
a little later on the hour, Jay Stu, you hate
everything go.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Thing I hated most this weekend is the Tampa Bay Rays.
So this impacted my wallet. Anything that impacts my wallet,
I'm gonna take series. So in my survivor pool this week,
I chose the Rais Tampa Bay Rays. All they needed
to do was win three games and I advanced. It's
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a survivor pool. They won one game, one game all week,
and they going into the weekend series. They played at
Chicago White Sox that had team that had won three
games the entire season. They won three games the entire
season starting Friday, and then they won three games over
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the weekend against the Rays. I was forced to watch
the race all last week. And this is a despicable team.
They don't have any clutch, They make fundamental errors all
the time. They have pictures that often miss and the
wrong places at the wrong time. It's just a despicable
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club that plays in front of a despicable crowd and
they raise or just dead.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
To me.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I love the fact that you talked about a team
nobody cares about, even in Tampa, and about a sport
that nobody cares about right now, and oh yeah, by
you know, oh yeah, by the way, you kind of
violated the primary rule of whether it's fantasy or betting,
it's that you can't personalize the dude, nobody cares.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I never bet.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's the problem. We don't. We don't.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We don't care about your we don't care about your
kids to achievement. We don't care about what else your
kid's sports achievements. Especially I always say, I'm said you hated.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
I kind of hate the stat that there's never been
an NBA team to come back from three to zero down,
because because once you get there's never been a team
to come back and win a series down three to Oh,
that's what that's what they tell me, right, Okay, yes,
So the fact is when you you're like the Pelicans,
you're the Lakers and now the it's the uh, the
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Gone Sons, the ditch Sons. You get down three, oh,
it's like it doesn't matter if it gets to six
or seven because no one's done it before. So it's
like it's until it happens, it's a death sentence. They've
gotten to seven before they have, but it's still no
one is It's like, wait, what do you hate? I
just hate the fact that you that that that no
one's ever done it. So it's like when you those
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games to seem needless, I know you play them. You
have to play them.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They do. And I would have been okay if we
we said, hey, you good, we're good.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But I also think you find out the makeup of
a guy. Right, if you're a basketball player, you just
play basketball. Are your basketball player? Like, there's a game,
let's go, right, there's time of the clock. We got
a shot. If there's games like to be played, we
got we got a chance. So I would I'm gonna
disagree with you. I understand you hate that it hasn't happened.
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I love it because I think it exposes these guys
that claim to be you know, ball ball is life,
and they you know they're one two three, can coun
I mean that's that's really.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
But it's like knowing the end of a movie that
you haven't you've seen, but you haven't seen. Right, every
new series is a new I know this movie, I
know how it ends. Yeah, and you're it's like it's
a sad ending.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Right. More more anguish from Lebron Right.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Uh Well, I hated the way Denver played on Saturday night.
I thought they they just kind of messed around, play
with their food, had a chance to win the game,
and then eh lost the ball, turned over Lakers one.
Now we got another game to night. Kind of I
hate that. I get that kind of hate that. I
just I thought, Jays, dude, this has served up on
a platter for you. I hate these dudes that like
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have no sources in the NFL and they just make
grandiose statements about NFL guys and drafting and do draft grades.
I just it just me out. It makes me. I
love the NFL draft. I just don't like all these
kind of clinger hang around our guys that act like
they know something they don't. I'd be better off with
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no information than the information that's provided to me in
some levels.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
But if you think about it, like what, there's no
risk to doing grades. So you're wasting inches and columns
and you're wasting segments on air to give grades that
you're not going to be held to these because there's
no way in heck that anyone's going to like go
back and care what you think about? This is just
filling air.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yes and no, I will give you. I think what
it does is it lends itself to that you have
to give either an A or a F. Because if
you give an A and ends up coming through and
everybody else is like B or C, you're like, dude,
look I got an A. I knew it or F
I knew it was gonna be disaster. When the world
is much more filled of b's and c's and d's
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than it is a's and f's. Is that fair, Dan?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so. But you have to have convictions. Yeah,
either way, that's what makes you know. The Seahawks draft
class when they had Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner was
known as getting an F and then that ends up.
If somebody gave it an A, then that person would
have been had their reputation made. But there were there
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were a lot more f's, and if it would have
been a C, it would have been like, okay, all right,
whatever I do look at how like I coming from
the draft, I'm not giving Minnesota an F because they
traded up. But you know that team's got like four
picks next year, and they didn't think that they were
JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner away from being a Super
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Bowl contender, and so I just kind of scratched my
head in that scenario. They've got nice talent, but you're
gonna have to pay Justin Jefferson at some point, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Did Well it's a new GM from this se he right, No,
I think he's.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Quezia delfamensa.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Quezia del famensa. By the way, Jason, are you is
part of your anger at the raise that they lost
to the White Sox or just that they lost and
lost your money? No, No, I think because like the
White Sox had won three games heading the weekend, and
I had not learned that until Thursday show and then
they win three games over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I mean, that's disgusting. They couldn't even beat the White
Sox once and that's the worst team in baseball. So yeah,
it adds to my fury.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Good good, we like we like. A furious Jason is
a motive a Jason. A motivated Jason is a very
skilled Jason. And that is leven eight.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
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Speaker 2 (16:56):
All right, let's welcome him in. He worked for Foxsports
and Fox Sports dot He's the one and only Rick Buker. Uh.
He joins us and Buke. There's a if we do
the blame pie thing on the Suns, I gotta tell you,
I think the biggest blame is going to be on
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the composition of the roster and the coaching staff, way
more than blaming any player. And my logic is, like,
you know, you bring in Frank. He's an analytics guy.
He's a data nerd. He loves the prep, he loves
the video. He fits actually really well with Lebron. It
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doesn't really fit well with with Durant. And then oh yeah,
by the way, you keep Kevin Young, who pretty you know,
quite obviously they almost hired as a head coach. That
doesn't work. And then you bring in Brad Beal who
only plays like half the year and he's not ready
to play. And then all the pieces don't The pieces
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don't fit together. And some of that is the problem
with the pieces, but a lot of that is who
chose to put those together? Is that fair? No, no,
it's not fair.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
No it is. It is completely fair. Composition. Composition of
the team from the very beginning. I mean, you just
you you got into the granular aspect of the connection
between the coaches and the and the players. But you know,
in broad strokes, you just you had all these strength
in one place, which was you had scorers and guys
who are uniquely talented mid range scorers. I mean, if
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you want to say they're all three level scores, I
suppose they're not.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
No, no, no, no, they're not. They're not. Well hold on,
can I give you something that I looked up during
the game last night. This will help make your points.
Helped make a point, This will help make your point. Okay,
for the entire series, the Timberwolves took one hundred and
thirty four to threes for the entire series, and they
took a last night, the Suns took one hundred and
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four threes. One hundred and four threes, thirty more attempts
in a four game series. Yeah, that's not how you
play basketball today.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah, and I and I.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Believe the staff knows that and implored them to shoot
more threes and stop shooting mid range shots.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So, and they made eleven more. They took thirty more,
but you take eleven more, Okay, that's that That changes
the dynamic of everything you do in the spacing of
everything you do and the rebounding and the angles and
all that stuff. But also it's a more efficient shot.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah. Well, I think the part of it is, and
it was funny just watching last night, is they don't
really have an ideal drive and kick guy. No, Now,
all of them can drive, but it's drive and kick.
They're driving and they're looking for their shot, and if
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they can't get to the rim, they're pulling up and
they're hitting the mid range. They're not looking to get
penetration in order to kick it to set somebody else up.
And there was at one point where Devin and kd
were One was on the wing, one was sort of
at the top, and they would drive about four or
five feet and then swing it to the other truck,
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just try to get that second the other defender to
step over a step or two, swing it and give
it three. And they kept passing it back and forth
because neither guy wanted to really take that pree because
it wasn't a wide open three. And that was this
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one example of how this team was so poorly formed.
And then the one force who had on the inside
for all that we talked about how soft DeAndre eight
may be. He's a nerdicicch isn't much better. I mean
he can be, and physically he has the ability to be,
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and at time.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Now he can't play. And listen, listen, he can't play.
That was a horrible trade. They did everything they could,
and I believe the stories that the coaching staff wanted
to work, wanted to keep DeAndre and it's the previous
coaching staff that didn't right. And but they gave him
away for two backups. Yeah, for two backups. So you
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don't have a point guard and you don't have a
starting caliber center, and you don't have a backup point
guard either, and then you have pieces that don't fit
shoot too many midies. You keep the runner up for
the head coach position on the staff like, what did
you think was going to happen?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Yeah, all of which is why. But this is this
is where I differ from most people who want to
tell you that the Suns are sunk. They're not sunk.
You can change this team in a hurry, but you
have to be willing to move Devin Booker to do it.
Because Devin Booker can get you at kings Ransom. He
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can get you draft picks back, he can get you
really good players. I mean he can. Based on the
price that Rudy Gobert set twenty seven years old locked
up for the next four years, you can get a
ton for Devin Booker. And you need to take him
out of that place where he thinks he's the number
one guy because he's never won. He's never made the
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playoffs without Chris Paul or in this iman. This is
the first time he's never won a playoff game where
he was the guy. So and it's not against it's
not anything I'm not blaming Devin for what where they are.
He's just not what he has been made out to be.
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And I don't know what I can get for KD.
I don't think I can get a whole lot for Beal,
but I could solve a lot of problems if I
was willing to move with Devin. The one thing they
cannot do is they cannot bring it back as is
and think that but we just need more time. That's
not the solution for all the reasons that you and I.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Have just discussed.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Okay, will Lebron be wearing purple and gold next year?
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah? Yeah, yes? I mean where is he going to go?
He's not leaving. He's not leaving for a year or two.
The Bronni James, I mean, the Lakers will will either
sign Bronni as a free agent undrafted free agent, or
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they'll draft him somewhere in the second round. But Lebron
doesn't want to pull up roots and live someplace else
for a year or two. And he still doesn't have
quite the influence or authority that he has been used
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to with the Lakers. But he still has a lot,
and he has way more than he would any Placebelfs
and the Lakers are not going to get. And if
we're talking about Trent moving him, I'm just talking to
people around the league like the value of Lebron James
versus all that you have to take on with him.
We're at that point now where people are like, we're good,
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We're good. I don't know that he can take us
the last step, and so why would we do that?
Why would we we we mortgage or kind of give
the keys to our our franchise to a guy for
a year or two if we don't think he can
win us a championship.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Who is more of a threat to the Nuggets, the
Wolves or the Thunder.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I'm going to say, I'm going to say the Wolves
simply because of their size, correct, and they create some
interesting match up. Now, I don't think that Jayden Daniel
can do to Jamal Murray what he did to Devin Booker.
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I mean, to me, Jaden was kind of the unsung
hero of that of that series. He did a lot
of Yeoman's work. But because you have you have Jokics.
You can just have Jokic or Aaron Gordon initiate your offense,
and the Wolves don't have anybody can who can put
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that ninety four foot pressure on them to make that difficult.
And then the big difference for me is is just
the three point shooting of Denver over Minnesota. I just
don't think that Minnesota consistently gets great looks. And you're
still putting the ball in the hands of Anthony Edwards
at the end of games to make decisions, and he's
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for all of the hoopla around him as much as
managing a dynamic players, He's still figuring out the game
and how to how to orchestrate things at the end
of at the end of games. I just don't think
he's quite there yet. But when I look at Oklahoma City,
I don't think they're that hard to figure out. It's basically,
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you need to turn the water off on shake gilgis Alexander,
make him predictable, and they don't really have any any
anywhere else to play. I don't the the Oklahoma City
offense is not particularly complicated, and Denver has enough experience
that they could they could make it ineffective in short order.
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In spite of everything that's happened during the regular season.
I know what the record is during the regular season,
the teams are completely different when they have an opportunity
to prepare and exploit your weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Who plays for the Milwaukee Bucks in Game five, I.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Don't know anybody's going to play that didn't play in
Game four. I think they've by all indications, they've conceded this.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's great, Like Phoenix, I see your disaster and I
match it and one up it with Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, Well, honestly, I'm not sure that maybe the
series would be a little bit longer. But even before
before Yannis got hurt, I thought that Indiana was going
to win the series because at the pace that they
play and the athleticism they have on the wings. Chris
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Middleton can't is not the defender he once was. Damian
Lillard obviously not. I just don't see how they they
matched up where even if you had Giannis that it
was going to be appreciably different because you've got Miles
turned Miles Turners hitting threes like that, you can you
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can pull Giannis out of the middle, And so I
just I didn't I thought this was flawed from the beginning.
Now Milwaukee's gonna watch what happens in these playoffs, and
if Boston Falters early. I could see them believing, Hey,
you know what, if we have everybody healthy and we
have another year together, we could still come out of
(28:25):
the East. I think they can talk themselves into that
if Boston proves to be as vulnerable as I still
think that they are. But and they're also kind of stuck.
I mean, where you're gonna go? Are you gonna trade
Damian Lillard? That that, to me is the only real
option you have for making a significant difference to your team.
And then Giannist would have to sign off on the
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idea that, yeah, looks like my Adrian Griffin experiment. This
did not work.
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Let's get to the press.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
The press.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You got buddy question for you, Doug, before we get
into the stories of the day, when do you separate
last year's NFL season to the next upcoming season? Like,
is there a separation point for you? Because we have
the new league year that starts in March, and that's
supposed to be the start of the new league year,
But it doesn't feel that way for me my personal
(30:08):
Like I feel like it that's the new season is
late July. But I just was curious if others feel
that it is the new league year, if it's the draft,
if it's the combine, when do you feel like it's
you're you're onto the next year of the NFL season.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Onto the next year. I think the draft. I think
the draft because everything is projecting forward per draft.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Jason Stewart, you have a I have one that's well
after Dougs and a little bit after yours. When HBO
airs the first episode of Hard Knocks, Hmm, what do
you guys think about that?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I think that's actually really good because it is the
start of training camp. But it's like that first week
of August when they've got the footage.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
What do you think about that one?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's pretty good? I was gonna say July. Yeah, I'm
with you.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
It's just like you're in camp and you're getting ready,
you're putting your playbick together, you're mixing guys in on practice.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I know all of these moves, the draft and free
agency is for next season, but it still feels like
it's connected to the previous season because there hasn't been
a break from it that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Fair, It's very fair.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We haven't had much of a break from Travis Kelcey
always in the headlines for one reason or another. Guy.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I see he went out without without Taylor Shift after
going to a gallow with Tower Swift. He went with
his boys out in Vegas, just guys night out, guys
not out.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
The Chiefs. Tight End got a two year extension, making
him the highest paid tight end in the NFL thirty
four point twenty five million dollars over that two year extension,
just north of what Darren Waller gets annually from the Giants.
He's at seventeen mil. Travis now just north of seventeen million,
highest paid head end in the NFL, and under contract
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now through twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Doug, Well, look, they're trying to They're freing up some
money to keep getting players. I'd never bought the retirement story.
But anybody who says who's a great player, who says retired,
they automatically get a new contract. I think those are
the two things that work here.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
He'll get seventeen in a quarter million dollars in twenty
twenty five, which ends up being guaranteed next March. So
you expect that to happen as well. Highest paid tight
end in salary and cash over the next two years.
According to Albert Breer, Victor wemb Yama and the San
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Antonio Spurs will be facing the Indiana Pacers in a
pair of games next season in Paris.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Doug, Wow, he gets to play at home.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Huh, Yes, that's gonna be suashing in on that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Why not. Why wouldn't you. The NBA has All these
other leagues are basically copying what the NBA has done
in terms of globalization. Now, the NFL did have NFL Europe,
we forget about that. But this is where the NBA
has been really, really good, and taking a guy home
to play is even more brilliant.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Some college basketball news, Vlad Golden the FAU Center is
going to transfer and follow Dusty Made to Michigan, while
Aiden Mahaney is leaving Saint Mary's. He's going to Yukon
and Jason Stewart's favorite player because of how he helped
his survivor pool during the tournament. Alabama's Grant Nelson returning
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to Tuscaloosa next season.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Oh, he's got another year. He's got COVID year.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, coming back.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Mannah, what's the news.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, he's returning. He's got a COVID year.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
He can use going back. So maybe the mustache would
be fully grown in by then.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Doug, the entire UAB football team has signed with the
Players Association Athletes dot Org, becoming the first publicly known
team to sign with the Players Association.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Hmm okay, see how that works out for them? I mean, look,
Trent knows what he's doing there, He's trying new things.
It's Trent dilfirst to coach uab people forgotten. So let's uh,
let's let's see. Let's see how they do an nil
in comparison to how they were previously going to do
without that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
And I was excited to see what the roast of
Tom Brady would be. I knew that Jeffrey Ross was
going to be there, but now I don't know if
I'm as excited and finding out that there's just going
to be a bunch of his former teammates. The Netflix
special on May fifth will include Randy Moss, Rob Gronkowski,
Julian Edelman, and Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
That's at the Forum, right Forum in La.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I believe, I think so yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That's one of those where it's like a attending an
Academy Awards type deal, like I'll wait till the edited
version comes out on Comedy Center.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I just yeah, I just I want to see the comedians.
I don't need to hear jokes that Julian Edelman had
written by, you know, for him, by someone else. Maybe
Edelman can write his own jokes don't.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
They all have their jokes written by somebody else, even
the comedians.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Some yeah, but not all. Yeah, the best of the
best do it well.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
I think Antonio Brown would add some that.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Would be something. All right, that's the press.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
They get out there and press. That was the press. Yeah, yeah,
yeah we do We did this right, Yeah, he's right. Yeah.
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You know what.
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I'm not going to solicit Dan's take on Jeopardy just
yet because it does work out well with love and hate.
Are there parts to it he loves he's allowed to share.
Are there parts to it he hates he's allowed to share?
So I don't know what his answer is. He may
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and Hate?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What did you love? God?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I Love you?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
These player Hays.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Dan Bayer Love and Hey what'd you love? From the weekend?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Danny A personal note, Yeah, my son's birthday we talked
about that was last week, and so he got a
variety of gifts and I was actually really worried that
he would just want to play with all of his
old toys. That has not been the case. It has
been new toy after new toy, which is very rewarding
as a parent and for others that have gotten him
(02:40):
new toys. He seems to be playing with all of
the new stuff, which means that your purchase power, your
buying knowledge was correct. Like you were in that you
did well. You did well as a parent. Cost per use,
Yeah really and yees. So I was very excited. I
bought theom as like real golf club, just a small, tiny,
(03:03):
little nine iron. And while I didn't love the neighbor
girl trying to hit the the foam golf balls off
of the driveway, I did like to see the club
being swung in the yard. So that was nice.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, we'll come We'll circle back to sports one in
a second. What do you got there, Jase, Do something
you loved? I know this is against like your normal
persona to say you liked something, But what would you
love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I kind of like watching a football team draft a
team having exactly one confidence in the decision makers.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You never quite knew.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I know your buddies with Telesco, but there was a
there's always been kind of a Spanos involvement in these
draft picks, and the Chargers just seemed to put all
their faith in Harbaugh and this GM that they brought
over from his brother's team, and I just to me,
I'm in full faith in Harbaugh mode. I'm not going
(04:06):
to question any of these decisions nothing. Brandon Staley was
an abject failure and I'm going to try to forget
about that, and I'm just gonna put all my faith
into one guy. And I kind of like to watch
the drop picks come in with that.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Okay, I was sam, I don't really have anything to
add to this segment.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Wow, yeah, okay, fair enough. I'm actually going to second that.
Like this weekend I thought stunk in sports unless you
were a fan of a team that won, Like it was,
you know, awful obviously for me as a Bucks fan.
But there was the draft I felt was boring on Saturday,
Like I felt like I reached my limits for the
first time in many years. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I hear you, guys. I agree. I'm going to give
you a couple of things I love though, mind. I
love Anthony Edwards. I mean, obviously the dunk was so ferocious,
but I like that he plays with a mile on
his face? Is that weird? Like, I again, you could
be as competitive as hell, but like, I like that
(05:09):
he's having fun. Now. Part of it is you're winning,
You're kicking the son's asses. That's got to be fun.
I just I don't know. I like I just like
the persona. I like that. I also like all of
these idiots who killed the Timberwolves. Okay, who killed the
timber Wolves for what are you doing? Move haven't heard
for Rudy Gobert. You're not paying attention to the league.
(05:31):
The league has gone away from small ball and gone
to you gotta be skilled and first of all, but
you gotta be big. The defending champions are who you're chasing, right,
That's who you're chasing. They are the favorite for a reason,
and they start six nine six ' ten seven foot
across the front line. And that's why the Timberwolves went
(05:52):
out and said, hey, we know where this league's going.
And then oh yeah, by the way, they added Mike
Conley too, who's just been awesome. But I love I
really like that watching that team play. But I really
love watching Anthony Verwards play with a smile on his face.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Was it this weekend where he got some stuff on
Twitter for he had some kind of a pelvic motion.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yes, in the middle of the court.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yes, what did we think about that?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
And exactly what is he doing?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It felt like he was doing the Rick Flair, didn't
he The DX chop?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay? Yeah, X chop?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
That is that a wrestling the.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Generation X Yes from WWE. Okay, all right, yes, Sam's
giving a tea round.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I mean, like, listen, if you want to clutch your
pearls when you're watching it, you're allowed to whatever. It
was only two pumps though, because we know in the
NFL the third pump is what gets you the flag,
right or is that just a key and peel? I'm
not sure. I also, I love that the NFL Draft
is over because it's boring. It's actually usually boring. And
(06:57):
what I hate are two things that I know Jason
Stewart hates. Okay, and we'll get to that, so this
kind of works with the hates that I know are coming.
But I love the fact that the draft is over
because all of the idiots out there who pretend like
they know who's really good player who's not. I'm not
talking about people in the NFL. I'm talking about guys
(07:17):
that do radio shows, guys that tweet like you don't
know anything. It's not your job to know anything, and
yet we act like we know what the left guard
from McNee state is going to do when he takes
on the Detroit Lions. We have no idea, but we
do draft grades because of it. So there's this whole
(07:37):
cottage industry, and I respect the guys that do it.
I don't like the people that don't have any clue
what they're doing talking about it with authority, and I'm
glad that's over. Let's get to what we hate. Okay,
So he didn't love it kids, which means, well, Dan,
do you want to start with your feelings about Jeopardy?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, I I'm honestly, Doug, I'm mixed on Jeopardy. That's
kind of the whole conversation on it. It's where there's
some really good things going with it and then it
takes a turn for which is why I feel like
it's an interesting discussion on how do you try to
squeeze as much juice out of that orange? And I
(08:19):
just don't know if they're squeezing the you know, the
right part. Maybe they're just squeezing the peel. I'm not sure.
I hated this weekend in the NBA, not only because
of the Buck scenario, which you'll dive into in a second,
but also it's the second straight week like Saturday's game
stunk like aside from the Lakers changing a little of
(08:42):
that momentum and not being swept, it was blowout city again,
and we had that the week prior when the when
the playoffs tipped off, and then on the Buck side
of things, Friday was crazy, Chris Middleton keeping them afloat
with some great shot making at the end, trying to
(09:02):
trying to keep that series alive, and then just really
having no chance yesterday, And all anybody could say was like,
I give credit to the Bucks for trying, because at
one point they didn't have Giannis Dame Bobby Portis who
got ejected, and then Chris Middleton actually had to leave
early in the second half like that was their team,
and yet still hung around with the Pacers who had
(09:24):
to shoot over fifty percent from three to actually get
this done. And so it's it's frustrating because there really
wasn't anything I've said all season long, Doug when We've
talked about the Bucks just wait till the playoffs, because
that's all that matters after last year, and then to
have this be an incomplete it's not even an f
(09:44):
it's an incomplete because you don't even know if it's
going to work or not, probably not in the future,
but just very very disappointing that the season has come
to an end like this because it's over, like there's
no way that Yiannis and Dame are gonna playing five.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yep, agreed, We'll ask Rick Buker. He you joined us
a little later on the hour, Jay Stu, you hate
everything go.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Thing I hated most this weekend is the Tampa Bay Rays.
So this impacted my wallet. Anything that impacts my wallet,
I'm gonna take series. So in my survivor pool this week,
I chose the Rais Tampa Bay Rays. All they needed
to do was win three games and I advanced. It's
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a survivor pool. They won one game, one game all week,
and they going into the weekend series. They played at
Chicago White Sox that had team that had won three
games the entire season. They won three games the entire
season starting Friday, and then they won three games over
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the weekend against the Rays. I was forced to watch
the race all last week. And this is a despicable team.
They don't have any clutch, They make fundamental errors all
the time. They have pictures that often miss and the
wrong places at the wrong time. It's just a despicable
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club that plays in front of a despicable crowd and
they raise or just dead.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
To me.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I love the fact that you talked about a team
nobody cares about, even in Tampa, and about a sport
that nobody cares about right now, and oh yeah, by
you know, oh yeah, by the way, you kind of
violated the primary rule of whether it's fantasy or betting,
it's that you can't personalize the dude, nobody cares.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I never bet.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's the problem. We don't. We don't.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
We don't care about your we don't care about your
kids to achievement. We don't care about what else your
kid's sports achievements. Especially I always say, I'm said you hated.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
I kind of hate the stat that there's never been
an NBA team to come back from three to zero down,
because because once you get there's never been a team
to come back and win a series down three to Oh,
that's what that's what they tell me, right, Okay, yes,
So the fact is when you you're like the Pelicans,
you're the Lakers and now the it's the uh, the
(12:15):
Gone Sons, the ditch Sons. You get down three, oh,
it's like it doesn't matter if it gets to six
or seven because no one's done it before. So it's
like it's until it happens, it's a death sentence. They've
gotten to seven before they have, but it's still no
one is It's like, wait, what do you hate? I
just hate the fact that you that that that no
one's ever done it. So it's like when you those
(12:35):
games to seem needless, I know you play them. You
have to play them.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They do. And I would have been okay if we
we said, hey, you good, we're good.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But I also think you find out the makeup of
a guy. Right, if you're a basketball player, you just
play basketball. Are your basketball player? Like, there's a game,
let's go, right, there's time of the clock. We got
a shot. If there's games like to be played, we
got we got a chance. So I would I'm gonna
disagree with you. I understand you hate that it hasn't happened.
(13:04):
I love it because I think it exposes these guys
that claim to be you know, ball ball is life,
and they you know they're one two three, can coun
I mean that's that's really.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
But it's like knowing the end of a movie that
you haven't you've seen, but you haven't seen. Right, every
new series is a new I know this movie, I
know how it ends. Yeah, and you're it's like it's
a sad ending.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Right. More more anguish from Lebron Right.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Uh Well, I hated the way Denver played on Saturday night.
I thought they they just kind of messed around, play
with their food, had a chance to win the game,
and then eh lost the ball, turned over Lakers one.
Now we got another game to night. Kind of I
hate that. I get that kind of hate that. I
just I thought, Jays, dude, this has served up on
a platter for you. I hate these dudes that like
(13:49):
have no sources in the NFL and they just make
grandiose statements about NFL guys and drafting and do draft grades.
I just it just me out. It makes me. I
love the NFL draft. I just don't like all these
kind of clinger hang around our guys that act like
they know something they don't. I'd be better off with
(14:11):
no information than the information that's provided to me in
some levels.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
But if you think about it, like what, there's no
risk to doing grades. So you're wasting inches and columns
and you're wasting segments on air to give grades that
you're not going to be held to these because there's
no way in heck that anyone's going to like go
back and care what you think about? This is just
filling air.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yes and no, I will give you. I think what
it does is it lends itself to that you have
to give either an A or a F. Because if
you give an A and ends up coming through and
everybody else is like B or C, you're like, dude,
look I got an A. I knew it or F
I knew it was gonna be disaster. When the world
is much more filled of b's and c's and d's
(14:57):
than it is a's and f's. Is that fair, Dan?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so. But you have to have convictions. Yeah,
either way, that's what makes you know. The Seahawks draft
class when they had Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner was
known as getting an F and then that ends up.
If somebody gave it an A, then that person would
have been had their reputation made. But there were there
(15:20):
were a lot more f's, and if it would have
been a C, it would have been like, okay, all right,
whatever I do look at how like I coming from
the draft, I'm not giving Minnesota an F because they
traded up. But you know that team's got like four
picks next year, and they didn't think that they were
JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner away from being a Super
(15:43):
Bowl contender, and so I just kind of scratched my
head in that scenario. They've got nice talent, but you're
gonna have to pay Justin Jefferson at some point, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Did Well it's a new GM from this se he right, No,
I think he's.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Quezia delfamensa.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Quezia del famensa. By the way, Jason, are you is
part of your anger at the raise that they lost
to the White Sox or just that they lost and
lost your money? No, No, I think because like the
White Sox had won three games heading the weekend, and
I had not learned that until Thursday show and then
they win three games over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I mean, that's disgusting. They couldn't even beat the White
Sox once and that's the worst team in baseball. So yeah,
it adds to my fury.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Good good, we like we like. A furious Jason is
a motive a Jason. A motivated Jason is a very
skilled Jason. And that is leven eight.
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All right, let's welcome him in. He worked for Foxsports
and Fox Sports dot He's the one and only Rick Buker. Uh.
He joins us and Buke. There's a if we do
the blame pie thing on the Suns, I gotta tell you,
I think the biggest blame is going to be on
(17:18):
the composition of the roster and the coaching staff, way
more than blaming any player. And my logic is, like,
you know, you bring in Frank. He's an analytics guy.
He's a data nerd. He loves the prep, he loves
the video. He fits actually really well with Lebron. It
(17:38):
doesn't really fit well with with Durant. And then oh yeah,
by the way, you keep Kevin Young, who pretty you know,
quite obviously they almost hired as a head coach. That
doesn't work. And then you bring in Brad Beal who
only plays like half the year and he's not ready
to play. And then all the pieces don't The pieces
(18:00):
don't fit together. And some of that is the problem
with the pieces, but a lot of that is who
chose to put those together? Is that fair? No, no,
it's not fair.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
No it is. It is completely fair. Composition. Composition of
the team from the very beginning. I mean, you just
you you got into the granular aspect of the connection
between the coaches and the and the players. But you know,
in broad strokes, you just you had all these strength
in one place, which was you had scorers and guys
who are uniquely talented mid range scorers. I mean, if
(18:36):
you want to say they're all three level scores, I
suppose they're not.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
No, no, no, no, they're not. They're not. Well hold on,
can I give you something that I looked up during
the game last night. This will help make your points.
Helped make a point, This will help make your point. Okay,
for the entire series, the Timberwolves took one hundred and
thirty four to threes for the entire series, and they
took a last night, the Suns took one hundred and
(19:03):
four threes. One hundred and four threes, thirty more attempts
in a four game series. Yeah, that's not how you
play basketball today.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah, and I and I.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Believe the staff knows that and implored them to shoot
more threes and stop shooting mid range shots.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So, and they made eleven more. They took thirty more,
but you take eleven more, Okay, that's that That changes
the dynamic of everything you do in the spacing of
everything you do and the rebounding and the angles and
all that stuff. But also it's a more efficient shot.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah. Well, I think the part of it is, and
it was funny just watching last night, is they don't
really have an ideal drive and kick guy. No, Now,
all of them can drive, but it's drive and kick.
They're driving and they're looking for their shot, and if
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they can't get to the rim, they're pulling up and
they're hitting the mid range. They're not looking to get
penetration in order to kick it to set somebody else up.
And there was at one point where Devin and kd
were One was on the wing, one was sort of
at the top, and they would drive about four or
five feet and then swing it to the other truck,
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just try to get that second the other defender to
step over a step or two, swing it and give
it three. And they kept passing it back and forth
because neither guy wanted to really take that pree because
it wasn't a wide open three. And that was this
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one example of how this team was so poorly formed.
And then the one force who had on the inside
for all that we talked about how soft DeAndre eight
may be. He's a nerdicicch isn't much better. I mean
he can be, and physically he has the ability to be,
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and at time.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Now he can't play. And listen, listen, he can't play.
That was a horrible trade. They did everything they could,
and I believe the stories that the coaching staff wanted
to work, wanted to keep DeAndre and it's the previous
coaching staff that didn't right. And but they gave him
away for two backups. Yeah, for two backups. So you
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don't have a point guard and you don't have a
starting caliber center, and you don't have a backup point
guard either, and then you have pieces that don't fit
shoot too many midies. You keep the runner up for
the head coach position on the staff like, what did
you think was going to happen?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Yeah, all of which is why. But this is this
is where I differ from most people who want to
tell you that the Suns are sunk. They're not sunk.
You can change this team in a hurry, but you
have to be willing to move Devin Booker to do it.
Because Devin Booker can get you at kings Ransom. He
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can get you draft picks back, he can get you
really good players. I mean he can. Based on the
price that Rudy Gobert set twenty seven years old locked
up for the next four years, you can get a
ton for Devin Booker. And you need to take him
out of that place where he thinks he's the number
one guy because he's never won. He's never made the
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playoffs without Chris Paul or in this iman. This is
the first time he's never won a playoff game where
he was the guy. So and it's not against it's
not anything I'm not blaming Devin for what where they are.
He's just not what he has been made out to be.
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And I don't know what I can get for KD.
I don't think I can get a whole lot for Beal,
but I could solve a lot of problems if I
was willing to move with Devin. The one thing they
cannot do is they cannot bring it back as is
and think that but we just need more time. That's
not the solution for all the reasons that you and I.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Have just discussed.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Okay, will Lebron be wearing purple and gold next year?
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah? Yeah, yes? I mean where is he going to go?
He's not leaving. He's not leaving for a year or two.
The Bronni James, I mean, the Lakers will will either
sign Bronni as a free agent undrafted free agent, or
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they'll draft him somewhere in the second round. But Lebron
doesn't want to pull up roots and live someplace else
for a year or two. And he still doesn't have
quite the influence or authority that he has been used
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to with the Lakers. But he still has a lot,
and he has way more than he would any Placebelfs
and the Lakers are not going to get. And if
we're talking about Trent moving him, I'm just talking to
people around the league like the value of Lebron James
versus all that you have to take on with him.
We're at that point now where people are like, we're good,
(24:24):
We're good. I don't know that he can take us
the last step, and so why would we do that?
Why would we we we mortgage or kind of give
the keys to our our franchise to a guy for
a year or two if we don't think he can
win us a championship.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Who is more of a threat to the Nuggets, the
Wolves or the Thunder.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I'm going to say, I'm going to say the Wolves
simply because of their size, correct, and they create some
interesting match up. Now, I don't think that Jayden Daniel
can do to Jamal Murray what he did to Devin Booker.
(25:11):
I mean, to me, Jaden was kind of the unsung
hero of that of that series. He did a lot
of Yeoman's work. But because you have you have Jokics.
You can just have Jokic or Aaron Gordon initiate your offense,
and the Wolves don't have anybody can who can put
(25:36):
that ninety four foot pressure on them to make that difficult.
And then the big difference for me is is just
the three point shooting of Denver over Minnesota. I just
don't think that Minnesota consistently gets great looks. And you're
still putting the ball in the hands of Anthony Edwards
at the end of games to make decisions, and he's
(25:58):
for all of the hoopla around him as much as
managing a dynamic players, He's still figuring out the game
and how to how to orchestrate things at the end
of at the end of games. I just don't think
he's quite there yet. But when I look at Oklahoma City,
I don't think they're that hard to figure out. It's basically,
(26:22):
you need to turn the water off on shake gilgis Alexander,
make him predictable, and they don't really have any any
anywhere else to play. I don't the the Oklahoma City
offense is not particularly complicated, and Denver has enough experience
that they could they could make it ineffective in short order.
(26:42):
In spite of everything that's happened during the regular season.
I know what the record is during the regular season,
the teams are completely different when they have an opportunity
to prepare and exploit your weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Who plays for the Milwaukee Bucks in Game five, I.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Don't know anybody's going to play that didn't play in
Game four. I think they've by all indications, they've conceded this.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's great, Like Phoenix, I see your disaster and I
match it and one up it with Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, Well, honestly, I'm not sure that maybe the
series would be a little bit longer. But even before
before Yannis got hurt, I thought that Indiana was going
to win the series because at the pace that they
play and the athleticism they have on the wings. Chris
(27:41):
Middleton can't is not the defender he once was. Damian
Lillard obviously not. I just don't see how they they
matched up where even if you had Giannis that it
was going to be appreciably different because you've got Miles
turned Miles Turners hitting threes like that, you can you
(28:04):
can pull Giannis out of the middle, And so I
just I didn't I thought this was flawed from the beginning.
Now Milwaukee's gonna watch what happens in these playoffs, and
if Boston Falters early. I could see them believing, Hey,
you know what, if we have everybody healthy and we
have another year together, we could still come out of
(28:25):
the East. I think they can talk themselves into that
if Boston proves to be as vulnerable as I still
think that they are. But and they're also kind of stuck.
I mean, where you're gonna go? Are you gonna trade
Damian Lillard? That that, to me is the only real
option you have for making a significant difference to your team.
And then Giannist would have to sign off on the
(28:47):
idea that, yeah, looks like my Adrian Griffin experiment. This
did not work.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
No, it did not. He's the one and only Rick Buker.
You got to check his work out at Fox sports
dot com. You see him on Fox Sports Trading on
Fox Sports One as well. He's the best buke.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
They so much for join us.
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Let's get to the press.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
The press.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You got buddy question for you, Doug, before we get
into the stories of the day, when do you separate
last year's NFL season to the next upcoming season? Like,
is there a separation point for you? Because we have
the new league year that starts in March, and that's
supposed to be the start of the new league year,
But it doesn't feel that way for me my personal
(30:08):
Like I feel like it that's the new season is
late July. But I just was curious if others feel
that it is the new league year, if it's the draft,
if it's the combine, when do you feel like it's
you're you're onto the next year of the NFL season.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Onto the next year. I think the draft. I think
the draft because everything is projecting forward per draft.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Jason Stewart, you have a I have one that's well
after Dougs and a little bit after yours. When HBO
airs the first episode of Hard Knocks, Hmm, what do
you guys think about that?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I think that's actually really good because it is the
start of training camp. But it's like that first week
of August when they've got the footage.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
What do you think about that one?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's pretty good? I was gonna say July. Yeah, I'm
with you.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
It's just like you're in camp and you're getting ready,
you're putting your playbick together, you're mixing guys in on practice.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I know all of these moves, the draft and free
agency is for next season, but it still feels like
it's connected to the previous season because there hasn't been
a break from it that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Fair, It's very fair.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We haven't had much of a break from Travis Kelcey
always in the headlines for one reason or another. Guy.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I see he went out without without Taylor Shift after
going to a gallow with Tower Swift. He went with
his boys out in Vegas, just guys night out, guys
not out.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
The Chiefs. Tight End got a two year extension, making
him the highest paid tight end in the NFL thirty
four point twenty five million dollars over that two year extension,
just north of what Darren Waller gets annually from the Giants.
He's at seventeen mil. Travis now just north of seventeen million,
highest paid head end in the NFL, and under contract
(31:57):
now through twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Doug, Well, look, they're trying to They're freing up some
money to keep getting players. I'd never bought the retirement story.
But anybody who says who's a great player, who says retired,
they automatically get a new contract. I think those are
the two things that work here.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
He'll get seventeen in a quarter million dollars in twenty
twenty five, which ends up being guaranteed next March. So
you expect that to happen as well. Highest paid tight
end in salary and cash over the next two years.
According to Albert Breer, Victor wemb Yama and the San
(32:33):
Antonio Spurs will be facing the Indiana Pacers in a
pair of games next season in Paris.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Doug, Wow, he gets to play at home.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Huh, Yes, that's gonna be suashing in on that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Why not. Why wouldn't you. The NBA has All these
other leagues are basically copying what the NBA has done
in terms of globalization. Now, the NFL did have NFL Europe,
we forget about that. But this is where the NBA
has been really, really good, and taking a guy home
to play is even more brilliant.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Some college basketball news, Vlad Golden the FAU Center is
going to transfer and follow Dusty Made to Michigan, while
Aiden Mahaney is leaving Saint Mary's. He's going to Yukon
and Jason Stewart's favorite player because of how he helped
his survivor pool during the tournament. Alabama's Grant Nelson returning
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to Tuscaloosa next season.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Oh, he's got another year. He's got COVID year.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, coming back.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Mannah, what's the news.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, he's returning. He's got a COVID year.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
He can use going back. So maybe the mustache would
be fully grown in by then.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Doug, the entire UAB football team has signed with the
Players Association Athletes dot Org, becoming the first publicly known
team to sign with the Players Association.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Hmm okay, see how that works out for them? I mean, look,
Trent knows what he's doing there, He's trying new things.
It's Trent dilfirst to coach uab people forgotten. So let's uh,
let's let's see. Let's see how they do an nil
in comparison to how they were previously going to do
without that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
And I was excited to see what the roast of
Tom Brady would be. I knew that Jeffrey Ross was
going to be there, but now I don't know if
I'm as excited and finding out that there's just going
to be a bunch of his former teammates. The Netflix
special on May fifth will include Randy Moss, Rob Gronkowski,
Julian Edelman, and Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
That's at the Forum, right Forum in La.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I believe, I think so yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That's one of those where it's like a attending an
Academy Awards type deal, like I'll wait till the edited
version comes out on Comedy Center.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I just yeah, I just I want to see the comedians.
I don't need to hear jokes that Julian Edelman had
written by, you know, for him, by someone else. Maybe
Edelman can write his own jokes don't.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
They all have their jokes written by somebody else, even
the comedians.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Some yeah, but not all. Yeah, the best of the
best do it well.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
I think Antonio Brown would add some that.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Would be something. All right, that's the press.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
They get out there and press. That was the press. Yeah, yeah,
yeah we do We did this right, Yeah, he's right. Yeah.
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