May 16, 2024 • 19 mins
George Noory and author Jason Martell explore his research into the ancient astronaut theory and evidence of aliens visiting ancient civilizations on Earth, as well as the use of artificial intelligence in the search for signs of life on Mars.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you
Jason Martel, one of the leading researchers and lectures and
ancient civilization technologies. Jason continues to break record ground with
his latest work on AI as his research helps to
uncover knowledge and progress for humankind. And here he is
back on Coast to Coast Jason, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hi, George, Thanks for having me back on your show.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Looking forward to this and I'm looking forward to seeing
you at Contact in the Desert.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, sir, once again, that time has come. It's just
around the corner.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We've got all kinds of events.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Tommy.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You'll tell folks next week a little bit. What's in store?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Have you been I've been doing well, George, just as
you mentioned there, just playing with some of that new.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Technology with artificial intelligence and having some fun.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, we'll get into that. Tell us about what you've
been doing with ancient astronauts.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know, the research is been something that's ongoing for
probably two or three decades now, looking into the ancient cultures,
trying to understand the big question of where.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
We come from.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So really, what I've been up to, George, is is
just applying some of of our latest technology, which we'll
discuss tonight on the body of evidence that we have.
Right there's just such a large amount of evidence that
we've uncovered in the past, but up till now it's
been very difficult and arduous to look through those archives
(01:35):
and look through those artifacts. The game is changing. We
have ways to do things much faster and find the
needle in the haystack quicker.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And when we say ancient astronauts, Jason, who are we
talking about?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's a broad topic that covers the the idea that
you know, as we look across cultures over thirty of
the top ancient cultures around the world, they all seem
to reference a time when they interacted or lived amongst
what they considered to be living gods. So when we
(02:10):
look at the term ancient astronaut theory, what we're doing
is identifying artifacts and information coming out of ancient cultures
where they speak of interactions with their living gods. Now
give you an example in our modern Bible, in the
King James New American version. Considering we have the Old
(02:32):
Testament and previous versions. You know, we have stories that
talk about man interacting with their living gods, and so
it's very possible that through the ancient astronaut theory, we
look at these as physical events, not mythology, things that
actually took place in the past.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
And so that's what we use.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
The ancient astronaut theory of the umbrella of research is
to analyze the past, say, were some of these interactions
actual physical events that place?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Where do you think they came from?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Jason, Well, you know, when we look at the evidence, George,
one of the one of the things that seems to
pop up and really just brings about more questions is
where did some of these gods come from? Where are
they originating? And one of the things that I've picked
up on is there seems to be a theme with
(03:25):
some type of like a watery planet of these homeworlds
of the gods. We look to several different races, you know,
tribes and cultures around the globe that reference their gods
and get visuals and do rituals, and surprisingly, a lot
of these cultures reference the type of being that seems
(03:48):
to show up in a large suit that looks very
similar to the late eighteen hundred and early nineteen hundred divers,
you know that we would send to the deep parts
of our ocean.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
With those big helmets.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Exactly, those big oversized suits that allow you to do
pressurized dives. What we see is a lot of these
depictions of these gods from various cultures in South America, Peru,
all the way to the other side in like Africa,
the Dogon tribe. There's there seems to be a connection
(04:25):
with this term of like doagu and dogon the Dogon tribe.
We're actually referencing something called the dog star Serius A
and B, and the whole idea of when we talk
about dragons, this whole denotation of that dragon dog star,
(04:46):
Daegu dogon. All of these references, somehow, George are referencing
some type of a watery god, some god that either
shows up in the water or is comfortable in the water,
or has a sign like the Sumerian god of Anche
that is symbolized up bringing.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
The water bearer.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So don't know the answer, but definitely a water bearing planet,
something very similar to Earth. We see commonalities of signs
of evidence from where these gods originate from.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now I was going to say Earth is definitely a
water planet, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So, I mean, it seems to be that, you know,
most of our planet is covered by water, and so
there's probably some connection there that these beings come to
our planet and also have some type of a connection
with a planet similar to the terrain that we currently occupy.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Is there any evideniation, Jason that shows where the ancient
astronauts came here and how they came here?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
There's evidence that we're still trying to put together right.
So I'll give you an example. When we look at
a lot of these sites around the world. There are
places that have very very large platforms that have been built.
We don't understand why, and they're around the globe.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
One of these is about Beck in Lebanon.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
There are trilipeton stones, huge huge blocks that have been
stacked to make these large platforms, and then ensuing cultures
have built their civilization on top of these platforms. But
the original purpose of some of these platforms, like balve
Beck and Lebanon, there's actually references of like King Gilgamesh,
(06:32):
ancient Sumerian tales and other cultures that reference seeing large
smoke and fire as they hear the.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Gods descending or us sending from.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
These locations like balt Back in Lebanon, there's actual quotes
of King Gilgamesh seeing the gods at these locations as
they're ascending and hearing all.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
That loud sounds of fire and.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Smoke, sounds like a rocket ship landing. And when we
look at other sites, George, like Tao Tecom and other
sites like that in Mexico, there's.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
These huge platforms and.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Steps leading up to the platform, we have to wonder
what they were used for. Could they have just been
some ritual ceremony or could they have been actual landing
paths for some type of spacecraft that.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Visited ancient cultures in the past.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Jason, you've seen the carvings on the sarcophagus lid of
Lord pac Cow, haven't you right.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's one of the most infamous carvings that again brings
to question some of the information that we get visually
from these artifacts. Anyone who spends time analyzing the lid
of Pacall can clearly see that he's positioned in such
a way that looks just like our modern day astronauts
(07:54):
manipulating a rocket ship. He has his hands on what
appeared to be some type of levers. His nose looks
like it's connected to a breathing apparatus. And what's really
the shocker, George, is you can see that there seems
to be some type of flames or combustion coming out
of the bottom of his capsule. So, you know, when
(08:15):
we look at the sarcophagus lid one, it's buried underneath
the pyramid. They literally built a pyramid on top of
his tomb, so there's no way that this large sarcophagus
lid could have been placed there easily.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It's a very intricate design.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But clearly the visual of that shows that King Pacol
was some type of an astronaut or was some type
of a space bearing person. If you look at the
physical evidence of that depiction, he's clearly manipulating what appears
to be some type.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Of a rocket ship.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I mean, it looks like he clearly came down
the Earth from someplace.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
They're depicting things that you know, we can look at
the history of the objects and understand at they're thousands
of years old, but.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
When you compare them to modern technology and.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You see these similarities, it definitely raises.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Questions, what's your latest on your work with NASA and Mars.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's an ongoing it's an ongoing topic Georgia, and this
is one of those areas where the AI helps, right.
So for years myself included I look through NASA archives,
mail In Space Science Systems, Jet Propulsion Laboratories, JPL, Goddards
Space Center, many of these conglomerate organizations of NASA that
(09:36):
have archives publicly available that we would sift through to
look par artifacts. Right, So, Mars Global surveyor still active,
still taking pictures. A lot of the cameras that we
have orbiting Mars today come from a company called mail
In Space Science Systems that are located in San Diego.
I have a long history with doctor Mike Malan. As
(09:58):
a college student over twe years ago, I would contact
doctor Mike Malan asking about the face and the pyramids
on Mars. You know, is there is there anything that's
artificial there? And it was always the same response, No,
these are all natural sand whether erodeed objects. So now
instead of using manual looking at images, we used AI.
(10:19):
George right before I would have to maybe spend the
day looking at one hundred images, two hundred images, and
now I can take AI and have it look at
two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Thousand images in one day.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So andce for you, doesn't it it?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Can it? Can?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
So?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
You know Vincent di Pietro Greg Mullinar, two famous researchers
that went through the NASA archives and literally discovered the
dn M pyramid. To Petro Molinar, the dn M pyramid
found on Mars was located by these two gentlemen. They're like,
my gosh, this is clearly a pyramidal complex, you know,
(10:58):
and then circulated. But it went through hours of looking
for artifacts with AI, right, I can just say look
for an object that looks like this a pyramid, a
four side of the five sided, and the AI can
look at thousands of images and just pull the ones
that have these details for me. So from that side,
(11:19):
George right, things have gotten a lot more exciting in that,
you know, to find the needle in the haystack doesn't
require hours of my manual time. I had the AI helping.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Us do that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
What's the target date to send the man an astronaut
to the Mars.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Boy, it's right around the corner, George, you know, following
SpaceX we're targeted for twenty twenty six to start doing.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's only two years away, just.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Two years away.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
There's going to be plans to go to Mars as
well as the Moon, and I know some of the
missions to Mars are well underway as far as planning.
So whether they keep that timeline of twenty twenty six,
you know, there's contracts in place with NASA that have
to be fulfilled obligated, but everything seems to be on track,
(12:08):
and SpaceX has been making all kinds of innovations with
space suits as you've seen. Maybe they're reusable rockets. So
they're definitely the best candidates to be pioneering this race
into space and.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Get us to Mars.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Which yeah, it seems like our whole life we've been
talking about this, George, and now we're actually going to
go there. So this is really going to change the
game to have foot to foot to dirt on the
planet Mars. If we set foot on Mars and actually
you know, investigate Sidoni on a lot of these sites firsthand,
that's going to change.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
That's going to change the game.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I used to tell Richard she we had a theme.
You won't know unless you go, I love it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That's that's we should put that on a bumper sticure
for the one of the spaceships.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
A lot of sense, doesn't it, Yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Really does, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
We you know, sending even probes and drones and such
to do excavations and archaeological research is great. But the
first time someone is there with their hands and dust
off a human skull and picks that up on the
surface of Mars, that that just changes how we feel about.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Where we come from.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Do you think that could happened?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I think it's.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Definitely going to happen, George. I mean when we when
we look at the connection between Mars and Earth, Sidonia
and Egypt, you know, pyramids and a stinkslike structure in
Egypt and literally pyramids and a stinkslike face on Mars.
There has to be a connection. There has to be
some type of lost connection with Mars that we're still
(13:49):
trying to understand.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And most likely, you know, we had a presence.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
On Mars simultaneously with being on Earth, but this was
probably thousands, if not you know, a million plus years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
When do we go back to the moon, Jason, that's
soon too isn't.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
That it's on the radar, you know. And the question there,
George too, is is why haven't we gone back to
the room. Partly, you know, I joke about this to say,
you know, like Intel, the computer company, when they invented
the penteum chip, it's not like we've done it. We've
made the penteum and I think the first one was
(14:26):
like fifty megaherts. Now they're like four thousand megaherts. But
the point is, when they.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Invited the penteum, it's not like they stopped.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Right, So when we went to the Moon, it's not
like we stopped.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's just it's just not possible. So when will we
go back?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Publicly, I think is the answer is the question. We
can see that a lot of other companies' countries are
making inroads, especially China, publicly saying that they're looking to
set up a base on the dark side of the Moon.
Well for us, right, that raises a lot of questions
because the dark side of the Moon contains a presence
(15:05):
that has made it very clear that it doesn't want
us there. So yeah, the Moon, just as well as Mars,
I think, invites interesting answers into our fields of research
to question are we alone, because clearly there's.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Been a presence on the moon.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin even then, you
know they made comments on the off channel about what
they're seeing there, and they were clearly not alone.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
There's a twenty four thousand year cycle known as procession.
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Procession is a technical term today that we used to
basically monitor the movements of the heavens. Everyone's heard of
the twelve Houses of the Zodiac, where we've essentially divided
the heavens into twelve parts of these, each one being
a constellation. Well, it turns out that the ancients somehow
measured time using this system called procession, and they were
(16:04):
aware of a twenty four thousand year cycle.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So for us, that comes.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Down to understanding that every two thousand years we essentially
point to a new north Star. So there's a degradation
in our orbits that says there's something causing procession. Now,
the modern term says it's caused by anomalies with our moon,
and that basically every seventy two years we degrade by
(16:28):
one degree.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It's a very complicated.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Set of maths. There's been a lot of new research
to question this procession and say that there's probably a
much more elegant and complicated reason for why we have procession,
and that simple answer, George is possibly because we have
two sons, not just one, and that changes the equation
of our solar system dynamics. As we can talk about
(16:52):
a little bit, but sometimes it's hard for just our
brain to realize that we might be a solar system
that has not just one son but two.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's a binary star system, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's a binary star system. I mean most of the
star systems that we filmed externally with Hubble and various
other telescopes, we see that most systems are binary, or
more than that have an intricate dance of various stars,
you know, going.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Around each other. Serious A and B would be a
good example.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So it's very possible that we have a second Sun,
but it's either now a brown dwarf, or it's another
star system that we haven't identified, maybe jurish Am B.
But there's strong evidence to suggest that binary solar systems
are of the commonality, are the norm, and so if
we were a binary star system, this this changes the
(17:42):
aspect of how we look at the Solar System from
a civil way. If you picture in your brain right now,
solar system. You see a picture of the Sun sitting there, stagnant,
not moving, and all the little planets are circling the
Earth in their intricacy, in their orbits. Means that our
Sun is moving through space around another object, another star system.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
If you can think about that, two suns.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
In this dance, that means our planet and all the
other little planets going around the Sun.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We are moving through space as well.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And so if you think about a moving solar system,
two suns in orbit, that means all the planets around
those stars around our Sun are also moving through space.
So it's a hard mental shift. This is something I
show in my lecture at Contact in the Desert is
visualizing the movement of two solar systems. And if you
can understand that, if we're moving through space, that's what's
(18:40):
changing our dynamic every you know, twenty four thousand years
of this shift of why we see a different view
of our Solar System from Earth is because we're literally
moving through space. So that's another topic on procession, but
it's a topic we can talk about a little bit
more tonight because you know, many, many ancient folters track
(19:00):
this twenty four thousand year cycle. How did they do that?
How are they even aware of a twenty four thousand
year cycle? It's pretty amazing.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you
Jason Martel, one of the leading researchers and lectures and
ancient civilization technologies. Jason continues to break record ground with
his latest work on AI as his research helps to
uncover knowledge and progress for humankind. And here he is
back on Coast to Coast Jason, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hi, George, Thanks for having me back on your show.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Looking forward to this and I'm looking forward to seeing
you at Contact in the Desert.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, sir, once again, that time has come. It's just
around the corner.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We've got all kinds of events.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Tommy.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You'll tell folks next week a little bit. What's in store?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Have you been I've been doing well, George, just as
you mentioned there, just playing with some of that new.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Technology with artificial intelligence and having some fun.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, we'll get into that. Tell us about what you've
been doing with ancient astronauts.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know, the research is been something that's ongoing for
probably two or three decades now, looking into the ancient cultures,
trying to understand the big question of where.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
We come from.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So really, what I've been up to, George, is is
just applying some of of our latest technology, which we'll
discuss tonight on the body of evidence that we have.
Right there's just such a large amount of evidence that
we've uncovered in the past, but up till now it's
been very difficult and arduous to look through those archives
(01:35):
and look through those artifacts. The game is changing. We
have ways to do things much faster and find the
needle in the haystack quicker.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And when we say ancient astronauts, Jason, who are we
talking about?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's a broad topic that covers the the idea that
you know, as we look across cultures over thirty of
the top ancient cultures around the world, they all seem
to reference a time when they interacted or lived amongst
what they considered to be living gods. So when we
(02:10):
look at the term ancient astronaut theory, what we're doing
is identifying artifacts and information coming out of ancient cultures
where they speak of interactions with their living gods. Now
give you an example in our modern Bible, in the
King James New American version. Considering we have the Old
(02:32):
Testament and previous versions. You know, we have stories that
talk about man interacting with their living gods, and so
it's very possible that through the ancient astronaut theory, we
look at these as physical events, not mythology, things that
actually took place in the past.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
And so that's what we use.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
The ancient astronaut theory of the umbrella of research is
to analyze the past, say, were some of these interactions
actual physical events that place?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Where do you think they came from?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Jason, Well, you know, when we look at the evidence, George,
one of the one of the things that seems to
pop up and really just brings about more questions is
where did some of these gods come from? Where are
they originating? And one of the things that I've picked
up on is there seems to be a theme with
(03:25):
some type of like a watery planet of these homeworlds
of the gods. We look to several different races, you know,
tribes and cultures around the globe that reference their gods
and get visuals and do rituals, and surprisingly, a lot
of these cultures reference the type of being that seems
(03:48):
to show up in a large suit that looks very
similar to the late eighteen hundred and early nineteen hundred divers,
you know that we would send to the deep parts
of our ocean.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
With those big helmets.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Exactly, those big oversized suits that allow you to do
pressurized dives. What we see is a lot of these
depictions of these gods from various cultures in South America, Peru,
all the way to the other side in like Africa,
the Dogon tribe. There's there seems to be a connection
(04:25):
with this term of like doagu and dogon the Dogon tribe.
We're actually referencing something called the dog star Serius A
and B, and the whole idea of when we talk
about dragons, this whole denotation of that dragon dog star,
(04:46):
Daegu dogon. All of these references, somehow, George are referencing
some type of a watery god, some god that either
shows up in the water or is comfortable in the water,
or has a sign like the Sumerian god of Anche
that is symbolized up bringing.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
The water bearer.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So don't know the answer, but definitely a water bearing planet,
something very similar to Earth. We see commonalities of signs
of evidence from where these gods originate from.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now I was going to say Earth is definitely a
water planet, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So, I mean, it seems to be that, you know,
most of our planet is covered by water, and so
there's probably some connection there that these beings come to
our planet and also have some type of a connection
with a planet similar to the terrain that we currently occupy.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Is there any evideniation, Jason that shows where the ancient
astronauts came here and how they came here?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
There's evidence that we're still trying to put together right.
So I'll give you an example. When we look at
a lot of these sites around the world. There are
places that have very very large platforms that have been built.
We don't understand why, and they're around the globe.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
One of these is about Beck in Lebanon.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
There are trilipeton stones, huge huge blocks that have been
stacked to make these large platforms, and then ensuing cultures
have built their civilization on top of these platforms. But
the original purpose of some of these platforms, like balve
Beck and Lebanon, there's actually references of like King Gilgamesh,
(06:32):
ancient Sumerian tales and other cultures that reference seeing large
smoke and fire as they hear the.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Gods descending or us sending from.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
These locations like balt Back in Lebanon, there's actual quotes
of King Gilgamesh seeing the gods at these locations as
they're ascending and hearing all.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
That loud sounds of fire and.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Smoke, sounds like a rocket ship landing. And when we
look at other sites, George, like Tao Tecom and other
sites like that in Mexico, there's.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
These huge platforms and.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Steps leading up to the platform, we have to wonder
what they were used for. Could they have just been
some ritual ceremony or could they have been actual landing
paths for some type of spacecraft that.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Visited ancient cultures in the past.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Jason, you've seen the carvings on the sarcophagus lid of
Lord pac Cow, haven't you right.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's one of the most infamous carvings that again brings
to question some of the information that we get visually
from these artifacts. Anyone who spends time analyzing the lid
of Pacall can clearly see that he's positioned in such
a way that looks just like our modern day astronauts
(07:54):
manipulating a rocket ship. He has his hands on what
appeared to be some type of levers. His nose looks
like it's connected to a breathing apparatus. And what's really
the shocker, George, is you can see that there seems
to be some type of flames or combustion coming out
of the bottom of his capsule. So, you know, when
(08:15):
we look at the sarcophagus lid one, it's buried underneath
the pyramid. They literally built a pyramid on top of
his tomb, so there's no way that this large sarcophagus
lid could have been placed there easily.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It's a very intricate design.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But clearly the visual of that shows that King Pacol
was some type of an astronaut or was some type
of a space bearing person. If you look at the
physical evidence of that depiction, he's clearly manipulating what appears
to be some type.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Of a rocket ship.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I mean, it looks like he clearly came down
the Earth from someplace.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
They're depicting things that you know, we can look at
the history of the objects and understand at they're thousands
of years old, but.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
When you compare them to modern technology and.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You see these similarities, it definitely raises.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Questions, what's your latest on your work with NASA and Mars.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's an ongoing it's an ongoing topic Georgia, and this
is one of those areas where the AI helps, right.
So for years myself included I look through NASA archives,
mail In Space Science Systems, Jet Propulsion Laboratories, JPL, Goddards
Space Center, many of these conglomerate organizations of NASA that
(09:36):
have archives publicly available that we would sift through to
look par artifacts. Right, So, Mars Global surveyor still active,
still taking pictures. A lot of the cameras that we
have orbiting Mars today come from a company called mail
In Space Science Systems that are located in San Diego.
I have a long history with doctor Mike Malan. As
(09:58):
a college student over twe years ago, I would contact
doctor Mike Malan asking about the face and the pyramids
on Mars. You know, is there is there anything that's
artificial there? And it was always the same response, No,
these are all natural sand whether erodeed objects. So now
instead of using manual looking at images, we used AI.
(10:19):
George right before I would have to maybe spend the
day looking at one hundred images, two hundred images, and
now I can take AI and have it look at
two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Thousand images in one day.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So andce for you, doesn't it it?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Can it? Can?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
So?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
You know Vincent di Pietro Greg Mullinar, two famous researchers
that went through the NASA archives and literally discovered the
dn M pyramid. To Petro Molinar, the dn M pyramid
found on Mars was located by these two gentlemen. They're like,
my gosh, this is clearly a pyramidal complex, you know,
(10:58):
and then circulated. But it went through hours of looking
for artifacts with AI, right, I can just say look
for an object that looks like this a pyramid, a
four side of the five sided, and the AI can
look at thousands of images and just pull the ones
that have these details for me. So from that side,
(11:19):
George right, things have gotten a lot more exciting in that,
you know, to find the needle in the haystack doesn't
require hours of my manual time. I had the AI helping.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Us do that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
What's the target date to send the man an astronaut
to the Mars.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Boy, it's right around the corner, George, you know, following
SpaceX we're targeted for twenty twenty six to start doing.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's only two years away, just.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Two years away.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
There's going to be plans to go to Mars as
well as the Moon, and I know some of the
missions to Mars are well underway as far as planning.
So whether they keep that timeline of twenty twenty six,
you know, there's contracts in place with NASA that have
to be fulfilled obligated, but everything seems to be on track,
(12:08):
and SpaceX has been making all kinds of innovations with
space suits as you've seen. Maybe they're reusable rockets. So
they're definitely the best candidates to be pioneering this race
into space and.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Get us to Mars.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Which yeah, it seems like our whole life we've been
talking about this, George, and now we're actually going to
go there. So this is really going to change the
game to have foot to foot to dirt on the
planet Mars. If we set foot on Mars and actually
you know, investigate Sidoni on a lot of these sites firsthand,
that's going to change.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
That's going to change the game.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I used to tell Richard she we had a theme.
You won't know unless you go, I love it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That's that's we should put that on a bumper sticure
for the one of the spaceships.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
A lot of sense, doesn't it, Yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Really does, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
We you know, sending even probes and drones and such
to do excavations and archaeological research is great. But the
first time someone is there with their hands and dust
off a human skull and picks that up on the
surface of Mars, that that just changes how we feel about.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Where we come from.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Do you think that could happened?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I think it's.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Definitely going to happen, George. I mean when we when
we look at the connection between Mars and Earth, Sidonia
and Egypt, you know, pyramids and a stinkslike structure in
Egypt and literally pyramids and a stinkslike face on Mars.
There has to be a connection. There has to be
some type of lost connection with Mars that we're still
(13:49):
trying to understand.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And most likely, you know, we had a presence.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
On Mars simultaneously with being on Earth, but this was
probably thousands, if not you know, a million plus years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
When do we go back to the moon, Jason, that's
soon too isn't.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
That it's on the radar, you know. And the question there,
George too, is is why haven't we gone back to
the room. Partly, you know, I joke about this to say,
you know, like Intel, the computer company, when they invented
the penteum chip, it's not like we've done it. We've
made the penteum and I think the first one was
(14:26):
like fifty megaherts. Now they're like four thousand megaherts. But
the point is, when they.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Invited the penteum, it's not like they stopped.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Right, So when we went to the Moon, it's not
like we stopped.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's just it's just not possible. So when will we
go back?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Publicly, I think is the answer is the question. We
can see that a lot of other companies' countries are
making inroads, especially China, publicly saying that they're looking to
set up a base on the dark side of the Moon.
Well for us, right, that raises a lot of questions
because the dark side of the Moon contains a presence
(15:05):
that has made it very clear that it doesn't want
us there. So yeah, the Moon, just as well as Mars,
I think, invites interesting answers into our fields of research
to question are we alone, because clearly there's.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Been a presence on the moon.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin even then, you
know they made comments on the off channel about what
they're seeing there, and they were clearly not alone.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
There's a twenty four thousand year cycle known as procession.
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Procession is a technical term today that we used to
basically monitor the movements of the heavens. Everyone's heard of
the twelve Houses of the Zodiac, where we've essentially divided
the heavens into twelve parts of these, each one being
a constellation. Well, it turns out that the ancients somehow
measured time using this system called procession, and they were
(16:04):
aware of a twenty four thousand year cycle.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So for us, that comes.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Down to understanding that every two thousand years we essentially
point to a new north Star. So there's a degradation
in our orbits that says there's something causing procession. Now,
the modern term says it's caused by anomalies with our moon,
and that basically every seventy two years we degrade by
(16:28):
one degree.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It's a very complicated.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Set of maths. There's been a lot of new research
to question this procession and say that there's probably a
much more elegant and complicated reason for why we have procession,
and that simple answer, George is possibly because we have
two sons, not just one, and that changes the equation
of our solar system dynamics. As we can talk about
(16:52):
a little bit, but sometimes it's hard for just our
brain to realize that we might be a solar system
that has not just one son but two.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's a binary star system, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's a binary star system. I mean most of the
star systems that we filmed externally with Hubble and various
other telescopes, we see that most systems are binary, or
more than that have an intricate dance of various stars,
you know, going.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Around each other. Serious A and B would be a
good example.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So it's very possible that we have a second Sun,
but it's either now a brown dwarf, or it's another
star system that we haven't identified, maybe jurish Am B.
But there's strong evidence to suggest that binary solar systems
are of the commonality, are the norm, and so if
we were a binary star system, this this changes the
(17:42):
aspect of how we look at the Solar System from
a civil way. If you picture in your brain right now,
solar system. You see a picture of the Sun sitting there, stagnant,
not moving, and all the little planets are circling the
Earth in their intricacy, in their orbits. Means that our
Sun is moving through space around another object, another star system.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
If you can think about that, two suns.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
In this dance, that means our planet and all the
other little planets going around the Sun.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We are moving through space as well.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And so if you think about a moving solar system,
two suns in orbit, that means all the planets around
those stars around our Sun are also moving through space.
So it's a hard mental shift. This is something I
show in my lecture at Contact in the Desert is
visualizing the movement of two solar systems. And if you
can understand that, if we're moving through space, that's what's
(18:40):
changing our dynamic every you know, twenty four thousand years
of this shift of why we see a different view
of our Solar System from Earth is because we're literally
moving through space. So that's another topic on procession, but
it's a topic we can talk about a little bit
more tonight because you know, many, many ancient folters track
(19:00):
this twenty four thousand year cycle. How did they do that?
How are they even aware of a twenty four thousand
year cycle? It's pretty amazing.
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