April 8, 2024 • 41 mins
Connor takes Joe on a journey throughout history and time to display the rich lore the cannabis plant has, as well as its widespread utility.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello, and welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one, your
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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risingtideenefits dot com. Joe, thank you for joining me today.
I have a few not current stories, but I'm going
(01:44):
to take you down memory lane, so to speak. We're
gonna do a little history lesson here on cannabis talk
one on one.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, for those that are listening right now, I just
want to tell you before we go any further that
Connor for this last two minutes, asked me if he
could lead the show, and I gladly said yes. So
we're going to let Connor continue. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm leading the show, and I'm choosing us, yes, for
us to go back in time, just like Marty McFly.
My first stop is in China, and Joe, are you
aware of the influence of cannabis in China.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, my knowledge goes back to the ancient Chinese using
the herbs and loving the herbs until one of the
kings got a little peote crazy and hallucinated and then
went off on this tangent and talked about how bad
it was. And then because he was the king and
(02:42):
he could dictate and rule, therefore he said, this is
bad no more. That's what I know. And then it
went from being bad to still being bad out there. Yes,
because of the guy who got a little twisted. Yes,
and that the story, the way it goes summarize somewhat.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It goes back even further. Okay, I want to say
around two thousand BC. And there was before Christ, before Christ.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
As we talked about Moses last one.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, and so there was an ancient I love you, Injury,
I love you so much. We got injury expectating. She
did great on her first show.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
By the way, she does great everything. She's this wonderful person.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Such a knowledgeable human you just wanted to learn from her.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
She's just an amazing person. Like she's just one of
the persons. When she's around you know, everything's better.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Amen to that. She made me apple juice the other day.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
When she's around you, everything's better. Good doesn't matter, good hugs,
good love, good comfort, good drinks, good comp She's just
a good person. Just one of those like oh solid, we.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Got we got fruit on the kitchen counter right now.
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
She's literally when I see no she's here, I just
get the like one of those internal happiness of like, oh,
I feel like I'm taken care of.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And anxiety has been taken away.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, and maybe can come off my anxiety medicine there No,
because she keeps leaving.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Getting back into it. Joe So China, China Uh In
Chinese folklore, shen Nung an ancient Chinese emperor who is
known for his contribution to Chinese medicine and agriculture. According
to legend, he is credited with discovering tea and is
also believed to have tried cannabis as of medicine. Shen
(04:25):
Nung is.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That he found tea. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That is the lore. The folk lore and shen Nung
is depicted as a wise ruler who tested the effects
of various plants on himself, including cannabis, and he I.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Would imagine, So, gude, if you found tea you for
your you're you know, you're digging.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
This dude was down for it. I remember. So I
did a little deep dive on him a long time ago,
and he wrote like a medical treatise treatise however you
want to say it, and pretty much documented over the
use of over two hundred different plants that he had
no idea the effects of because he didn't want to
test on other people. He thought, you know, I may
(05:01):
as well figure it out on my own. And he
took and recovered from over like seventy like out of.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
The poisons and all kinds of questions mess him up.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, he survived over like seventy different like lethal poisons,
and like with all of his knowledge that he had
acquired beforehand, was able to you know, survive it. And
so uh, you know, it ended up getting to the
point where he had I.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Mean, that's what had to happen back in the day.
I mean, think about it. Somebody had to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean, not for real I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Ran, what are you thinking about? Because you say it,
you got to think about it, gooid, Well, everything we
used even are these pharmaceuticals that comes from some type
of a plant and then add in the other ship
that they put but you know.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
For real, and it like it. It would take a
brave soul to go and do that, you know what
I'm saying, to go against the status quo of already
the limited knowledge that.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You were so lucky to be alive this time.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I know that we can. I can just go on
Google and like check it real quick and I'll be fine.
Or I can ask Joe right here and he has
probably has the answer for him.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Man, you had a toothache, you hit your toe on
a rock because you didn't have shoes, and it's like
what do you do for paying?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Then?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, and it's like, oh my toe'st purple? Is it
gonna be like that forever? Like you know what I'm saying,
Like you don't know any of that shit. And so
like this guy, brave as hell went and you know,
tried everything and uh found out a lot of knowledge
about cannabis. And he you know, is credited with you know,
(06:29):
cultivating the plant and realizing that there's a male and
female part and that the male and female have different
aspects and different really. Yes, and so he you know,
he was a practitioner of all medicines, so he wanted
to see what this plant was all about.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And he had a green thumb like that, huh where
not only did he try it, but he's able to
identify male female And he's the one who did that. Yes,
and so and so and this is in China, in China,
and like BC and that's what I remember. Yeah, I
remember hearing that they came China, other herbs and this,
and then a Chinese emperor then like stopped it because
(07:05):
he got all twisted on it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And yeah, I'm you know, there's always various reasons, Like
you know, I've further into the show. I have, you know,
other topics that we're going to go to that may
touch on some answers to it. But you know, everyone
has their reasons whether or not they.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Like the plant.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Like like, you know, we know George Bush was smoking
on that cush and it wasn't fucking legal, so.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like, and you know they're
growing it back then too for him, Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
For sure, this dude was smoking a fat I guarantee it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I mean, you got to think too back in those days,
even way back further, let's go for you know, uh,
even the early presidency was at George Washington had the
cotton fields, cannabis fields, and you know, uh, it's just
funny that you think about what this country has gone
through universally, circle and cycles of it's legal, it's not legal,
it's a no big deal. It's a big deal, somebody
(07:57):
gets fucked up off it, and then you're realizing, oh
my god, there's so much benefit to this plant.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, no, totally, And that's what shen Nung found out.
And so you know, there's evidence to suggest that the
use of cannabis from medicinal purposes dates back to shen Nung.
In fact, the earliest known written record of cannabis as
medicine comes from the ancient Chinese Pharmacopia.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That so it's just the earliest that we can track
anybody talking about cannabis. Yes, any reference of cannabis. This
is the first one. Yeah, And the book is called
Wow Connor, that's a great one. I've heard. I've actually
heard of this and I remember here, but I didn't
realize that this is the first record. What's his name again?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
His name is shen Nung and he wrote the Pentow
and that describes the use of cannabis for a range
of conditions including pain, inflammation, menstreal cramps, and recommends different
preparations of the plant for different ailments. And this dates
back to eighteen or around eighteen hundred BC.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
This is like Moses time.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, a long time ago. And obviously there we got
you know, different people at different times, but they're doing
different things with cannabis, and it all kind of relates
to the general timeframe, and it all kind of starts
to the dots start to connectcause people start to use
cannabis relatively at the same Is.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This now because you're saying this, do you know I
don't know the exact time of Moses because I'm just
trying to reference the burning bush, is what I'm saying
from that being in China of well, let's look it
up what we're talking about. I thank you Connor for
being a young whipper snapper that has a computer in
front of him and us the idea. But I'm not
that smart and googly fast like that. But look up
(09:36):
the timing on you know, the era of Moses and
then the era of this guy, because if the burning
bush came after, then he was referenced. And not that
the burning bush is cannabis, but so many people think
(09:57):
it is. Yeah, not, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It has to be.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Because but God was talking to him through the burning bush.
You know, I like it, I love it, but I
can see he may be smoking. The bush may have
been a cannabis bush. It could have been on fire,
it could be whatever. But my point is which of
those came first? Moses are the Can I get his
(10:22):
name against so I can learn it? Please? Shen Nung Shnnung,
he's an emperor. Emperor shen Nung in China was BC
as well, you said seven hundred BC. Uh, Moses, Joe,
you have another computer over there, and you're a young
(10:43):
whipper snapper. Let's see how fast you can figure this
out and look it up on the computer. You're right,
and get on the mic and make it look like
you're doing something over there instead of sitting down there. Uh,
you know, listening to us talk. Oh yeah, that's how
you do a producing show. You know what you know, Joe,
you're pretty smart, Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So shen Nung was a thousand years before.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
A thousand years before Moses.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Wow, So he's literally the first reference. Yeah, because meaning
people reference Moses is seeing that as cannabis. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, So it said Moses was fifteenth century BC and
then BCE, and then shen Nung was twenty six to
ninety five bceves, so that he's the first overall overall
period practitioner of this shit. Pay respects to this man,
say his name again, Shennung.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Shen Nung, n u n G shen Nung is the
first to ever reference cannabis twenty three hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
BC, twenty six twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Twenty seven hundred BC, and shen Young references cannabis as
a medicine.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yes, to use.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
For him to even have reference to women like that too,
mental cycles, it says, huh yep, And that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So he out of his the pentsow the book that
he wrote, the Medical Encyclopedia, he had tried three hundred
and sixty five herbs, eventually dying from a toxic overdose,
from my understanding, but got to three hundred and sixty
five herbs without dying. And this treatise was later expanded
(12:28):
by countless generations of doctors and is the main reason
why knowledge of remedial herbs is so expansive in China of.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Course, because yeah, we look at herbs and what they
do for us is part of the natural herbs and
none of that. The Native American and Indians as well, totally.
It's what you know, Paoti, and they were doing that
the same kind of concept though with the Asian folks
out there China. That's I see it all being similar
and the same totally.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And it was kind of all around the same time.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I feel like we were hunters and gatherers. Let's just
take it further back. I mean, we gathered, we hunted,
whether it came from Madam Andy bomb whatever. But there's
so many stories.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And like think about it from like a literal standpoint
from these people back in the day, Like obviously, like
they have a limited perception of reality as it is
at that point, so when they see a plant that
is given to them by their God, that alters their perception.
Like of course they're gonna want to take that to
talk to their God and understand.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And who's to say, Moses wasn't using that it's smoking
that because for Moses to tap in like that, yeah,
and then it was a burning bush. But you know alone,
there's no references really of them gathering and smoking are
the pyote or or even ever references it was breaking
bread and more baking, and or maybe they just didn't
reference it and talk about it because they're so normal.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And however, it was normalized the Bible that we're reading,
the Bible that we are reading right now from I understanding,
King James heavily translated throughout time. So like I think
about it, like when you translate something through Google Translate,
it changes a little bit every single time, so like
we're not getting like a wrecked one for one.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, the story is told as well that I've dug
deep into my studies studying with Pastor Dick Burnew mc
hammer doing a show called The God House when it
comes to Bibles and references, And one thing that I
did learn about that was that the King James Bible
that is the most heavily used Bible.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
The most accurate.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, the bottom line is King James, once he got
all the stories from everybody, he chopped off everyone's tongue
and then told these guys are so now it's like
once you get Ing James's version, it's King James's version.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
There we go, Well, the more you know Joe, the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
More you know. But I don't know what he's changed.
Who knows, right, So my point is I just know
this part what he chopped off the tongue was once
he put the book together, that was a law.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
At that point, baby, I mean shit, well that was
it on shen Nung Joe. In the next segment, I'm
gonna take you on a trip to the Adriatic Sea
where we're going to talk about the Greeks and the
Romans and their use. So when we come back, it's
Cannabis Talk one on one.
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Speaker 3 (15:46):
Oh yes, all right, Joe, where are you taking me to?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
What'd you say? Where in Greece.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
The agent, the Adriatic seed.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
The Adriat What is the Adriatic Sea?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I mean that is the sea where Greece, it's peninsula
cuts off.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
All the buildings white and Greece like that. That's just
their vibe. So dope.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I've been their first fan to see it. Very beautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
How do you fly into that? Is there like a
big airport? I feel like right there on the water,
I feel like Greece is just.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, it has a huge mainland. So I flew into
Athens and then you know, Athens was something. And then
we spent a few days there seeing all like the
Pantheon and all of their uh you know, historical things
from Greek mythology. And we went to a couple of
museums and stuff, and then we.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Did we just Zeus and the gods and all that
that's mythology.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, yeah, no, it's it's very interesting. And then
we went up to the Oracle of Delphi where they
have that whole track up there. We like drove three
hours on a bus through like a desert, and then
went up to this fucking hill where they would go
and get their knowledge. And after that, we then took
a cruise ship to all the islands and it was
(17:08):
like Santorini, Patfos crete Mikinos. So we got and stopped
everywhere and was able to see a lot of Greece
and like, can definitely understand the appeal of the photos.
Oh yeah, I bet I will say there. Transportation system
(17:29):
in Athens was incredible because of the two thousand and
four Olympics. If I'm not mistaken, they have some fire
public transportation. So if you ever in Athens, take the
fucking train. It's very worth it. Other than that, Athens
was a somewhat of a dodgy experience. So a bunch
of people from my graduating class of high school we
(17:50):
went on a trip and so we stopped in Switzerland,
Italy and Greece and it was like all the package
ended up being like a really good price.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
So how many of you kids went there?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Was like ninety? Shut up, there was ninety fools on this.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Did you get laid?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Uh no comment?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, chuckling around? I mean either you did or did it?
I mean, Joe, do you mean.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Don't don't lie to us, Connor, please let me thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Joe, right, No, I don't don't kind of screwed somebody
at a different place and a hooker or something.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, I know, I mean no, but I didn't. Though, seriously,
Oh that's fine if you didn't. I'm not wondering I didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
No big deal, like a there's plenty of trips I've
never got. I don't know it was high school. I
just thought maybe you didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No, I mean no, I was with all my homies or.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Did my high school trip. If I went out there,
I would have definitely got a hooker. Joe would have.
If I didn't hook up with one of my friends,
I would have got a hook.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm not in the nineties, I'm in twenty nineteen. Is
that saying like, I fucking get a hooker and then
my mom finds out like fucking five minutes later. I
think Connor wanted to say no, just ship flies, bro.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So that's the problem. That's why you wouldn't do it.
So even me back then though, I would never care
because my person were like, oh me, I'll get strapped,
but you fuck my mom.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
This is this is justifying not getting a hooker. However,
I know which is good, Like, that's why shit didn't happen,
and that's.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Why it should be Connor. That's why you're different than me,
and I like you for that, like I would have
and I still would and will and I want to
go right now to do it, but I can't. But
my point is that's how I think, right, yes, And
that's good because we're two different people. And I know,
back in high school, I remember hooking up with one
chick at at a at my senior trip thing and
then my buddy busted her out when we went back
(19:29):
to school, which was stupid and crazy. And I'm the
same buddy of mine is dead rich rest in peace,
which is hilarious. So that's why I asked, because then
I have like funny stories in my life for doing
things like oh did you hook up? Well, because I
have a crazy story that I hooked up, So that
just seemed like would be appropriate. Yeah, if you were
a dearrel looked like me, if you had a fake
idea in buying fucking drinks and everything else, I was
(19:51):
that guy on.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The drip wall in Europe.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You don't have to exactly, so you out there, you
got fun.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
For sure, and it was it was it was a
fast pitched trip because we went to to lot of
cities as well, so it was like started in Lucerne
and then we spent a couple of days in Lucerne
and then went down to uh Venice and then we
did a CC. We did Florence, Rome, Naples, which that's
(20:18):
where my family originates from Naples, my dad's side, and
so it was cool to be there, and then we
flew over to Athens and then did the Lathens Ship
then went on.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The ninety people doing this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Together roughly and plus plus chaperones like the teachers that
were you know, guiding us through of course because there
was oh my god, like they're like the ones that
went are like family friends.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
So I always want to be a chaperone still and
do things like that.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Bro. It was a lot of fun. Like I was like,
you know, we were drinking together, shooting, you know, it
was it was a good time and it was it
was cool to be able to go experience that with
my buddies, Like we still talk about it to this day, yes,
and so.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
As a as me at fifty two, we still talk
about us pulling in ready for this we were at
what's that island right here, God, right off the island
right here, Catalina. We're at Catalina. And you know, I
was as we president, right, so me, my vice president, Brett,
the senior asb or senior class president Jean who Gene
was the quarterback. Brent was the wide receiver on the
(21:24):
left tackle right, and we're all those other rules too.
We had all those other roles at the school too,
So not only were we the football guys, but we're
the school guys too. And it's our senior tripwreck Catalina.
We're in the bar and our coach and advisor walks
in roll, Hey, come in, mister rogas. We got the
beer and he just drinking with us. And it went
(21:46):
from that was the end of the year and he
was drinking. But let me back up to the beginning
of the year when he came to meet us at
Pizza Hut right there on Capitol McKee and he comes
in and I already had a picture of beer at
the table and we're going into our senior year, and
he goes, Joe, I can't sit down with you guys
and have a picture of beer in front of me.
That's a respect for me. I'm I'm the teacher. I'm like, well,
(22:10):
you want to sit at the other table. Ok, fine,
I'm putting beer on the side.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like that means my point is, you know, that's fun
to drink with the advisor. So what's going on in
Greece though?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So we have you know, Greece and Rome, and of
course Rome had a vast empire going on and where
their reach was very far in multiple places. However, there's
been a lot of studies and a lot of architectural
you know projects that have been commissioned to find you know,
(22:40):
the effects of cannabis back in back in the day.
And you know, they found that the Romans and the
Greeks had extensive use of the plant as well as hemp.
And the first one I'm going to talk about is
in the form of concretes. So you know, the the
Romans were using hemp concrete to reinforce the mortar in
(23:01):
their buildings.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And so I wonder how they were making it back then,
where they're just getting it, breaking it up and put
it in there. I mean, how are they breaking that?
You know, I'm sure plant down to be you know
what I mean. Back then I wonder that's just and
I've heard actually of this of them using that, like
I've heard this story, but it's just weird to think
how they figured that out to use that, and why
we haven't grown from that.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, And there's there's a probably a plethora of reasons
as to why that's the case. And you know, I'm
about to break it down contextually and it'll start to
the pieces will start to, you know, put together for you.
So hemp demands little water to grow and therefore requires
no artificial irrigation and grows approximately fifty times faster than
a tree. After being harvested and cut, the plants are
(23:46):
then dried for a few days before being grouped and
poured into containers with water, which swells the stems. When dry,
the fibers can be utilized, among other uses, for the
production of paper, fabrics, ropes, biodegradable packaging, bio fuel, and
construction materials. So you could see all of the utility
that this plant has. And so now you have the
Romans who are in advanced society, and.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You would think they'd want to capitalize on this, Well,
they can utilize that.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
They couldn't They couldn't contain it, and so they couldn't
get a grip on it.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Because and it was growing too fast to speak, growing
too fast because we're paying no water, it's just growing.
It's all this timp everywhere now probably growing and growing
more and more exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So think about how efficient it is and then think
about how many uses it has. So then what does
that do to an economy? So that basically you're taking
money out from like the general economy because no one's
buying materials, so therefore the government's not getting tax and so.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And this goes back to the Roman Empire. Yeah, so
the Roman Empire was making cloth from cotton.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, exactly exactly, and so they were.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
They weren't microfiber and everything back then.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It was yeah, and you know they were making like
paper scrolls with this thing, and so uh it was
it was uh, I've had a very high utilization rate
with it, and so you know, Roman, the Roman Empire
lasted a long time, and so there were points where
you know, I've I've found articles where they talk about
how the Romans used it recreationally and also medicinally. So
(25:20):
I think there's a lot of different points in time
that you know, cannabis had its own timeline with Rome,
and so you know, it's just another example.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Did you see the demise from Rome so to speak
of when cannabis was you know, Okay, we see the
greatness of it and they're using it for this and that.
How did it take its fall? Because that's the one
thing I don't remember seeing in like the little documentary
quick footages that I've watched of Like you mentioned that
(25:49):
the China would have happened there, but in the Romans,
how did it become I think it might have been
the same thing too, But why did they not want
to use it? I love this history, but it's hardly
remembered all the years. I know. But you did a
damn good job explaining the beginning part and taking me
to Greece and taking me why it's there and why
this and why that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, of course, got to get the context of the setting.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It's good stories because it's so true the Roman Empires.
You look at this, okay, first time now is in China.
Then we have the Roman Empires talking about cannabis and
the usage there. It's just the moral of the fact
of the story. You don't even know what you know
when they did that much. I like how you're taking
me down the first ever and we realized that this
is before Moses. Now we're going after during Moses. Actually
(26:34):
the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, Moses time Roman. The Roman Roman Empire was a
thousand years, so.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You know that was during a long long time Moses.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
So therefore, if the Romans did that because he went over,
he wasn't the Roman Empire. No, he wasn't the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, so he was using it. I gotta I gotta
look it up. But you know, the Romans had all
the way up to Sinai and Jyps all the way
through there. The Romans had Egypt, you know, like Alexander
the Great.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Roman Egypt, he was the Egyptian one. If I'm not
mistake of the Egypt don't have the snake. Yeah, that's crazy.
They all were using it back then.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yes, No, they were for multiple uses, whether it be
recreational or recreationally or medicinally. However, Joe, that is the
end of the the Roman forum, so to speak. And
I'm going to now take you back east to India
and Indi Kush Mountains, so we'll be right back.
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Speaker 3 (28:33):
Like this journey or taking me on by the way.
I am upset at myself that I didn't light a
cigar at the beginning of the show, because, uh, you
took me down a path that I wanted to smoke corner.
I was like, and then I was like mad at
myself that I didn't. So thank you for this journey.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Not too late, you got it in.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Devery exactly, not too late. This has been thank you
for taking me to China and then Greece. Where are
we going next?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
We're going to India. That's right, We're going to India.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And you know, my daughter and my brother have been
to India. Love it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's awesome, and I have not had the opportunity to go,
and I'd love to see it at some point because
I know it's very beautiful. And I the culture too,
it's very controversial, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Controversial What do you mean controversial? Just the work ethic?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What? Well, No, it's just you know, there's a lot
of uh India cultural difference.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So I love about different places though, you know what
I mean, I do love the good things, but like
if you just think about, like what's worked for those cultures, Like, dude,
that's how they've been getting down. Who are we to
sit here? I mean, you know, we want to make
human rights for everybody. And I agree, I mean, I
mean do I I mean I do, But if that's
(29:38):
how they've gotten down, I.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Mean, yeah, different horses for different courses.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Man, you know, so what's going on in India?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So, uh, India also has a rich history in cannabis.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Some say it came from India.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Some say it came from India. And you know, it's
funny because around the same time period as Shan Nung
maybe a little bit, you know, five hundred years after, Yeah, roughly,
the Indians started using cannabis. And so they started using
(30:13):
it in a plethora of ways within their food and
so they had teas, they had drinks, they had you know,
they were infusing it with walnuts, a whole bunch of stuff. So,
other preparations of cannabis in India include ganja and charas
stronger than bang Bang was the drink that I was referencing.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
B h A n g.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Ganja is made from the flowers and upper leaves of
the female plant. Charas is the strongest pepper preparation, is
made from the blooming flowers, similar in strength to hashish.
Chars contain a lot of resin Both are smoked and
earthenware pipe called chilium. The pipe is usually shared among
two to five people and it's it was a communal activity.
So along with eating it they were smoking it recreationally
(31:03):
back then, and so you know, they were growing it,
cultivating it. They were green thumbs out there, Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I mean, and it's been known all the spices and
everything that come from India like that, right, I mean,
it doesn't surprise me. But when did it become like
a bad thing out there too? Which I mean I
keep asking these random Yeah, I think the other bad
question of like it's been good. It was always known
in my opinion as well as good, like look what
it's done for us early times and how it heals
(31:33):
and even us as adults using it for real medicine.
And dude, I rubbed my wrist with it this morning, right,
and my elbow and my other wrist and my other elbow,
and I was rubbing my hips with it. This new
cream I just got. I don't know if you were
here the other day when this company was here, but
I've been talking to these folks on Instagram and then
Mikayla talked to them and then they came in. Dog.
(31:56):
There's just some new medicine and creams out there that
they're making and getting down better. Meat. Mean, this company
was breaking down how they do it and I'm like
it was different, and it's like we're learning new things still. Yeah,
we're still learning new ways how this cannabis can be
like used in a way to help. And that's my
biggest way recover just medicine wise, Yeah, in all aspects
(32:18):
of life, recover urid.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, no, for real, it's like as if as your
lungs need air and you know, all your bodily functions
work right, like you need to pee, you need to
pass stuff through that system. You need to you need
to pass stuff out your intestines, your endocanaminoid system needs
to be uh regulated, you know, in the right way,
(32:44):
and like people are missing out on it. And I
genuinely think a lot of genetic issues could probably stem from,
you know, not a.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Healthier environment period, more children being developed stronger with adults
using CBD properly.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
It shouldn't be like a dot milk campaign.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, seriously, cannabis got cannabinoid because your body has him.
Do your body good, because get some cannabinoids in you today,
because apparently got milk wasn't even right, I mean really right.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It wasn't even real.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And it was like me, geez, big more milk.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Joe big milk was fucking with us.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Joe and Joe looked like we drank a lot of milk.
Got me home, Joe, you drink some milk? Oh boy,
your mom me drinks and milk.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, I know my story. Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You came from the Alme milk fucking family.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Fuck No, I was I hated milk, bro. I was
drinking oj and Ship's.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But you just have the metabolism of your dad's.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'm all ectomorphicking Ship so hard to wig.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, you're that guy crazy, You're that guy. I hate
guys like you.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I fucking I hate it too. It sucks, but I'll
be thinking myself later.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I guess you get to live the longer, healthier, so
to speak.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
But you're the skinny guy with high cholesterol, like the
other thing that you just can't see, like, oh my god,
you look so healthy.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
And I'm rotting on the inside exactly right.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
It's just like, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I know, it's crazy. Back to our point in India,
so I'm looking it up and attempts at criminalizing cannabis
and British India were made and mooted in eighteen thirty eight.
Eighteen seventy one, in eighteen seventy seven. So from my understanding,
the British came in and when they colonized India, and
(34:23):
when they were doing the British East India Trading Company
with all the tea and importing all their shit, you know,
they they probably were taxing the Indians and saw all
the use for it too and were like, you know
whatnot fuck that, it's I'm not making money from it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The British loved their taxes. They loved to tax the
fucking tax t tax bro Boston Tea Party. Okay, let's see.
The British found the use of cannabis so extensive and
colonial India that they commissioned a large, large scale study
in the late eighteen nineties. They were concerned that the
abuse of cannabis was endangering the health of the native
people and driving them insane. Could the British government asked
(35:01):
the Government of India to appoint a commission to look
into the cultivation of the hemp plant, preparation of drugs
from it, trade in those drugs, the social and moral
impact of its consumption, and possible prohibition. So they came
in there saw that shit use the excuse that it
was fucking making them insane, and they banned that shit.
They tried to. Yeah, and so in nineteen sixty one
(35:25):
International Treaty Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs classified cannabis with
hard drugs. During the negotiations, the India and delegation opposed
its intolerance to the social and religious customs of India.
As compromised, the Indian government promise to limit the export
of Indian hemp, and the final draft of treaty defined
cannabis as cannabis means the flowering or fruiting tops of
(35:49):
cannabis blah blah blah. So the Indian government is strict
with the cannabis policy. According to Section twenty of the
NDPS Act, holding a small quantity of weed can like
you in jail for rigorous imprisonment of up to six
months or a fine of ten thousand of their currency.
(36:10):
Cultivation of cannabis for industrial purposes such as making industrial
hemp or for horticulture uses in is legal in India.
So industrial horticultural use is legal. So you know, that's
that was probably their compromise with the British, that they
couldn't use it psychoactively.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
So do you guys know why, like it was super
legalized in the United States for so long? Like, is
there is there a reason for that? Do you guys
know a gang of reasons? I you know, for mine?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
From how I see it, it's that the government has
never been prepared to truly profit off of it and
don't understand the industry well enough to be able to
do that. So they've just made it schedule one the
whole time because that's what's convenient, and they can fill
their quotas on you know, black market busts and all
that shit.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's a good question though, Joe, Like when did the
law first come in that cannabis is a scheduled one drug?
Is that the Google search connor what is the fucking
proper way to look that ap of a date time?
Like that? That's kind of what you're asking, right, Joe,
because I don't know that answer that I've heard it.
I feel like and I know it, but I don't
(37:24):
know it. No.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, I mean, like you guys can mention like the
power for properties it has and like how it was
used in civilization for so long that I never really you.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Would think that in the United States. It just was there,
and the Indians were using it obviously, yeah, right, And
so when they came to the United States, Indians were
using it, the Mexicans were using it obviously, right. So
they kick everybody out. Let's just talk about California, how
this really went down, or call it Plymouth Rock, whatever
you want to do in Pennsylvania. But they came in
and they pushed people out. Our government becomes a government.
(37:57):
Let's just jump right ahead of time. And my point is,
when does the law become weed? Smoking weed is illegal?
You got that answer now, Gunner.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
In the Controlled Substance Act of nineteen seventy, the federal
government categorized marijuana as a Schedule on substance, meaning it
was considered to have no exceptacle medical use and was
among the class of drugs having the highest potential for misuse.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
That's where the sixties folks were. The sixties and the seventies,
they tried to come him down. That's when I came around.
I'm a seventy two, you feel me, so therefore I
seen this like that and that's why I started smoking
when I was six. Yep, because that was seventy eight.
You feel isn't that funny. Crazy to think like that
when you look at this and that's when it was firstly,
it's a bigger deal now, but it really wasn't when
(38:43):
I was first there. Because I'm eight ten, eight years
in of it being illegal. You know, my brother's already
coming for Nebraska. He's already ten years older than me,
so he's experienced it being legal to now it's an
illegal drug. I just put that together right now for
the first time of my life.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Crazy the time, because like think about it in school
even they like don't teach history in chronological order, so
everything seems like I've been.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Doing it exactly forever, like it's not that long ago. No, No,
it was eight years before I fucking smoked weed, that
it was illegal two years before I was born.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, come on, I know. It's it's pretty wild crazy
that we say that everything's co everything coincides and kind
of happens around the same time. You know, it's out
of whether it's divine.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I never looked at just to think of my lifetog
two years before I was born, cannabis wasn't even fucking illegal. Wow, crazy?
Is that wild? And to think like Mark and Craig washerman.
They were growing up, it was legal, yeah, and then
it got illegal.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Fuck, put the fucking hammer down? Was that Nixon? Nineteen seventy?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Hold up? Who was that president? What was it? Nixon?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I think so? Or was that might've been after Watergate?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Who as the president in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy two
when I was born? Wasn't it seventy two?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And I was Nixon sixty nine to seventy four?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah? Was this fucker? This dude is such a bastard.
Oh my god, this a Nixon is the.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
One that did it.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
He was a little fucking He had that fucking face
too that he's like, I got.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Lunch, did the fucking every time you got fire? Did
the peace sign? Shit? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
It was all smoking cigar? Soo? Wasn't he the Nickson?
This guardmokers?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Dare I think so? And did he sent us to
fucking he sent us to NORM? Because I was after Korea?
Was in fifties Nixon?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
No, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Or he might have taken over during NORM.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
But either way, seventies, I mean yeah, same time. He's
an asshole. Thank you Connor for the history lesson. It's
a pleasure of course.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
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Hello, and welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one, your
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I have a few not current stories, but I'm going
(01:44):
to take you down memory lane, so to speak. We're
gonna do a little history lesson here on cannabis talk
one on one.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, for those that are listening right now, I just
want to tell you before we go any further that
Connor for this last two minutes, asked me if he
could lead the show, and I gladly said yes. So
we're going to let Connor continue. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm leading the show, and I'm choosing us, yes, for
us to go back in time, just like Marty McFly.
My first stop is in China, and Joe, are you
aware of the influence of cannabis in China.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, my knowledge goes back to the ancient Chinese using
the herbs and loving the herbs until one of the
kings got a little peote crazy and hallucinated and then
went off on this tangent and talked about how bad
it was. And then because he was the king and
(02:42):
he could dictate and rule, therefore he said, this is
bad no more. That's what I know. And then it
went from being bad to still being bad out there. Yes,
because of the guy who got a little twisted. Yes,
and that the story, the way it goes summarize somewhat.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It goes back even further. Okay, I want to say
around two thousand BC. And there was before Christ, before Christ.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
As we talked about Moses last one.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, and so there was an ancient I love you, Injury,
I love you so much. We got injury expectating. She
did great on her first show.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
By the way, she does great everything. She's this wonderful person.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Such a knowledgeable human you just wanted to learn from her.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
She's just an amazing person. Like she's just one of
the persons. When she's around you know, everything's better.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Amen to that. She made me apple juice the other day.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
When she's around you, everything's better. Good doesn't matter, good hugs,
good love, good comfort, good drinks, good comp She's just
a good person. Just one of those like oh solid, we.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Got we got fruit on the kitchen counter right now.
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
She's literally when I see no she's here, I just
get the like one of those internal happiness of like, oh,
I feel like I'm taken care of.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And anxiety has been taken away.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, and maybe can come off my anxiety medicine there No,
because she keeps leaving.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Getting back into it. Joe So China, China Uh In
Chinese folklore, shen Nung an ancient Chinese emperor who is
known for his contribution to Chinese medicine and agriculture. According
to legend, he is credited with discovering tea and is
also believed to have tried cannabis as of medicine. Shen
(04:25):
Nung is.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That he found tea. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That is the lore. The folk lore and shen Nung
is depicted as a wise ruler who tested the effects
of various plants on himself, including cannabis, and he I.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Would imagine, So, gude, if you found tea you for
your you're you know, you're digging.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
This dude was down for it. I remember. So I
did a little deep dive on him a long time ago,
and he wrote like a medical treatise treatise however you
want to say it, and pretty much documented over the
use of over two hundred different plants that he had
no idea the effects of because he didn't want to
test on other people. He thought, you know, I may
(05:01):
as well figure it out on my own. And he
took and recovered from over like seventy like out of.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
The poisons and all kinds of questions mess him up.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, he survived over like seventy different like lethal poisons,
and like with all of his knowledge that he had
acquired beforehand, was able to you know, survive it. And
so uh, you know, it ended up getting to the
point where he had I.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Mean, that's what had to happen back in the day.
I mean, think about it. Somebody had to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean, not for real I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Ran, what are you thinking about? Because you say it,
you got to think about it, gooid, Well, everything we
used even are these pharmaceuticals that comes from some type
of a plant and then add in the other ship
that they put but you know.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
For real, and it like it. It would take a
brave soul to go and do that, you know what
I'm saying, to go against the status quo of already
the limited knowledge that.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You were so lucky to be alive this time.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I know that we can. I can just go on
Google and like check it real quick and I'll be fine.
Or I can ask Joe right here and he has
probably has the answer for him.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Man, you had a toothache, you hit your toe on
a rock because you didn't have shoes, and it's like
what do you do for paying?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Then?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, and it's like, oh my toe'st purple? Is it
gonna be like that forever? Like you know what I'm saying,
Like you don't know any of that shit. And so
like this guy, brave as hell went and you know,
tried everything and uh found out a lot of knowledge
about cannabis. And he you know, is credited with you know,
(06:29):
cultivating the plant and realizing that there's a male and
female part and that the male and female have different
aspects and different really. Yes, and so he you know,
he was a practitioner of all medicines, so he wanted
to see what this plant was all about.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And he had a green thumb like that, huh where
not only did he try it, but he's able to
identify male female And he's the one who did that. Yes,
and so and so and this is in China, in China,
and like BC and that's what I remember. Yeah, I
remember hearing that they came China, other herbs and this,
and then a Chinese emperor then like stopped it because
(07:05):
he got all twisted on it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And yeah, I'm you know, there's always various reasons, Like
you know, I've further into the show. I have, you know,
other topics that we're going to go to that may
touch on some answers to it. But you know, everyone
has their reasons whether or not they.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Like the plant.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Like like, you know, we know George Bush was smoking
on that cush and it wasn't fucking legal, so.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like, and you know they're
growing it back then too for him, Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
For sure, this dude was smoking a fat I guarantee it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I mean, you got to think too back in those days,
even way back further, let's go for you know, uh,
even the early presidency was at George Washington had the
cotton fields, cannabis fields, and you know, uh, it's just
funny that you think about what this country has gone
through universally, circle and cycles of it's legal, it's not legal,
it's a no big deal. It's a big deal, somebody
(07:57):
gets fucked up off it, and then you're realizing, oh
my god, there's so much benefit to this plant.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, no, totally, And that's what shen Nung found out.
And so you know, there's evidence to suggest that the
use of cannabis from medicinal purposes dates back to shen Nung.
In fact, the earliest known written record of cannabis as
medicine comes from the ancient Chinese Pharmacopia.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That so it's just the earliest that we can track
anybody talking about cannabis. Yes, any reference of cannabis. This
is the first one. Yeah, And the book is called
Wow Connor, that's a great one. I've heard. I've actually
heard of this and I remember here, but I didn't
realize that this is the first record. What's his name again?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
His name is shen Nung and he wrote the Pentow
and that describes the use of cannabis for a range
of conditions including pain, inflammation, menstreal cramps, and recommends different
preparations of the plant for different ailments. And this dates
back to eighteen or around eighteen hundred BC.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
This is like Moses time.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, a long time ago. And obviously there we got
you know, different people at different times, but they're doing
different things with cannabis, and it all kind of relates
to the general timeframe, and it all kind of starts
to the dots start to connectcause people start to use
cannabis relatively at the same Is.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This now because you're saying this, do you know I
don't know the exact time of Moses because I'm just
trying to reference the burning bush, is what I'm saying
from that being in China of well, let's look it
up what we're talking about. I thank you Connor for
being a young whipper snapper that has a computer in
front of him and us the idea. But I'm not
that smart and googly fast like that. But look up
(09:36):
the timing on you know, the era of Moses and
then the era of this guy, because if the burning
bush came after, then he was referenced. And not that
the burning bush is cannabis, but so many people think
(09:57):
it is. Yeah, not, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It has to be.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Because but God was talking to him through the burning bush.
You know, I like it, I love it, but I
can see he may be smoking. The bush may have
been a cannabis bush. It could have been on fire,
it could be whatever. But my point is which of
those came first? Moses are the Can I get his
(10:22):
name against so I can learn it? Please? Shen Nung Shnnung,
he's an emperor. Emperor shen Nung in China was BC
as well, you said seven hundred BC. Uh, Moses, Joe,
you have another computer over there, and you're a young
(10:43):
whipper snapper. Let's see how fast you can figure this
out and look it up on the computer. You're right,
and get on the mic and make it look like
you're doing something over there instead of sitting down there. Uh,
you know, listening to us talk. Oh yeah, that's how
you do a producing show. You know what you know, Joe,
you're pretty smart, Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So shen Nung was a thousand years before.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
A thousand years before Moses.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Wow, So he's literally the first reference. Yeah, because meaning
people reference Moses is seeing that as cannabis. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, So it said Moses was fifteenth century BC and
then BCE, and then shen Nung was twenty six to
ninety five bceves, so that he's the first overall overall
period practitioner of this shit. Pay respects to this man,
say his name again, Shennung.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Shen Nung, n u n G shen Nung is the
first to ever reference cannabis twenty three hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
BC, twenty six twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Twenty seven hundred BC, and shen Young references cannabis as
a medicine.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yes, to use.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
For him to even have reference to women like that too,
mental cycles, it says, huh yep, And that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So he out of his the pentsow the book that
he wrote, the Medical Encyclopedia, he had tried three hundred
and sixty five herbs, eventually dying from a toxic overdose,
from my understanding, but got to three hundred and sixty
five herbs without dying. And this treatise was later expanded
(12:28):
by countless generations of doctors and is the main reason
why knowledge of remedial herbs is so expansive in China of.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Course, because yeah, we look at herbs and what they
do for us is part of the natural herbs and
none of that. The Native American and Indians as well, totally.
It's what you know, Paoti, and they were doing that
the same kind of concept though with the Asian folks
out there China. That's I see it all being similar
and the same totally.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And it was kind of all around the same time.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I feel like we were hunters and gatherers. Let's just
take it further back. I mean, we gathered, we hunted,
whether it came from Madam Andy bomb whatever. But there's
so many stories.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And like think about it from like a literal standpoint
from these people back in the day, Like obviously, like
they have a limited perception of reality as it is
at that point, so when they see a plant that
is given to them by their God, that alters their perception.
Like of course they're gonna want to take that to
talk to their God and understand.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And who's to say, Moses wasn't using that it's smoking
that because for Moses to tap in like that, yeah,
and then it was a burning bush. But you know alone,
there's no references really of them gathering and smoking are
the pyote or or even ever references it was breaking
bread and more baking, and or maybe they just didn't
reference it and talk about it because they're so normal.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And however, it was normalized the Bible that we're reading,
the Bible that we are reading right now from I understanding,
King James heavily translated throughout time. So like I think
about it, like when you translate something through Google Translate,
it changes a little bit every single time, so like
we're not getting like a wrecked one for one.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, the story is told as well that I've dug
deep into my studies studying with Pastor Dick Burnew mc
hammer doing a show called The God House when it
comes to Bibles and references, And one thing that I
did learn about that was that the King James Bible
that is the most heavily used Bible.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
The most accurate.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, the bottom line is King James, once he got
all the stories from everybody, he chopped off everyone's tongue
and then told these guys are so now it's like
once you get Ing James's version, it's King James's version.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
There we go, Well, the more you know Joe, the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
More you know. But I don't know what he's changed.
Who knows, right, So my point is I just know
this part what he chopped off the tongue was once
he put the book together, that was a law.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
At that point, baby, I mean shit, well that was
it on shen Nung Joe. In the next segment, I'm
gonna take you on a trip to the Adriatic Sea
where we're going to talk about the Greeks and the
Romans and their use. So when we come back, it's
Cannabis Talk one on one.
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Oh yes, all right, Joe, where are you taking me to?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
What'd you say? Where in Greece.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
The agent, the Adriatic seed.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
The Adriat What is the Adriatic Sea?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I mean that is the sea where Greece, it's peninsula
cuts off.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
All the buildings white and Greece like that. That's just
their vibe. So dope.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I've been their first fan to see it. Very beautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
How do you fly into that? Is there like a
big airport? I feel like right there on the water,
I feel like Greece is just.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, it has a huge mainland. So I flew into
Athens and then you know, Athens was something. And then
we spent a few days there seeing all like the
Pantheon and all of their uh you know, historical things
from Greek mythology. And we went to a couple of
museums and stuff, and then we.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Did we just Zeus and the gods and all that
that's mythology.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, yeah, no, it's it's very interesting. And then
we went up to the Oracle of Delphi where they
have that whole track up there. We like drove three
hours on a bus through like a desert, and then
went up to this fucking hill where they would go
and get their knowledge. And after that, we then took
a cruise ship to all the islands and it was
(17:08):
like Santorini, Patfos crete Mikinos. So we got and stopped
everywhere and was able to see a lot of Greece
and like, can definitely understand the appeal of the photos.
Oh yeah, I bet I will say there. Transportation system
(17:29):
in Athens was incredible because of the two thousand and
four Olympics. If I'm not mistaken, they have some fire
public transportation. So if you ever in Athens, take the
fucking train. It's very worth it. Other than that, Athens
was a somewhat of a dodgy experience. So a bunch
of people from my graduating class of high school we
(17:50):
went on a trip and so we stopped in Switzerland,
Italy and Greece and it was like all the package
ended up being like a really good price.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
So how many of you kids went there?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Was like ninety? Shut up, there was ninety fools on this.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Did you get laid?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Uh no comment?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, chuckling around? I mean either you did or did it?
I mean, Joe, do you mean.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Don't don't lie to us, Connor, please let me thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Joe, right, No, I don't don't kind of screwed somebody
at a different place and a hooker or something.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, I know, I mean no, but I didn't. Though, seriously,
Oh that's fine if you didn't. I'm not wondering I didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
No big deal, like a there's plenty of trips I've
never got. I don't know it was high school. I
just thought maybe you didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No, I mean no, I was with all my homies or.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Did my high school trip. If I went out there,
I would have definitely got a hooker. Joe would have.
If I didn't hook up with one of my friends,
I would have got a hook.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm not in the nineties, I'm in twenty nineteen. Is
that saying like, I fucking get a hooker and then
my mom finds out like fucking five minutes later. I
think Connor wanted to say no, just ship flies, bro.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So that's the problem. That's why you wouldn't do it.
So even me back then though, I would never care
because my person were like, oh me, I'll get strapped,
but you fuck my mom.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
This is this is justifying not getting a hooker. However,
I know which is good, Like, that's why shit didn't happen,
and that's.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Why it should be Connor. That's why you're different than me,
and I like you for that, like I would have
and I still would and will and I want to
go right now to do it, but I can't. But
my point is that's how I think, right, yes, And
that's good because we're two different people. And I know,
back in high school, I remember hooking up with one
chick at at a at my senior trip thing and
then my buddy busted her out when we went back
(19:29):
to school, which was stupid and crazy. And I'm the
same buddy of mine is dead rich rest in peace,
which is hilarious. So that's why I asked, because then
I have like funny stories in my life for doing
things like oh did you hook up? Well, because I
have a crazy story that I hooked up, So that
just seemed like would be appropriate. Yeah, if you were
a dearrel looked like me, if you had a fake
idea in buying fucking drinks and everything else, I was
(19:51):
that guy on.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The drip wall in Europe.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You don't have to exactly, so you out there, you
got fun.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
For sure, and it was it was it was a
fast pitched trip because we went to to lot of
cities as well, so it was like started in Lucerne
and then we spent a couple of days in Lucerne
and then went down to uh Venice and then we
did a CC. We did Florence, Rome, Naples, which that's
(20:18):
where my family originates from Naples, my dad's side, and
so it was cool to be there, and then we
flew over to Athens and then did the Lathens Ship
then went on.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The ninety people doing this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Together roughly and plus plus chaperones like the teachers that
were you know, guiding us through of course because there
was oh my god, like they're like the ones that
went are like family friends.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
So I always want to be a chaperone still and
do things like that.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Bro. It was a lot of fun. Like I was like,
you know, we were drinking together, shooting, you know, it
was it was a good time and it was it
was cool to be able to go experience that with
my buddies, Like we still talk about it to this day, yes,
and so.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
As a as me at fifty two, we still talk
about us pulling in ready for this we were at
what's that island right here, God, right off the island
right here, Catalina. We're at Catalina. And you know, I
was as we president, right, so me, my vice president, Brett,
the senior asb or senior class president Jean who Gene
was the quarterback. Brent was the wide receiver on the
(21:24):
left tackle right, and we're all those other rules too.
We had all those other roles at the school too,
So not only were we the football guys, but we're
the school guys too. And it's our senior tripwreck Catalina.
We're in the bar and our coach and advisor walks
in roll, Hey, come in, mister rogas. We got the
beer and he just drinking with us. And it went
(21:46):
from that was the end of the year and he
was drinking. But let me back up to the beginning
of the year when he came to meet us at
Pizza Hut right there on Capitol McKee and he comes
in and I already had a picture of beer at
the table and we're going into our senior year, and
he goes, Joe, I can't sit down with you guys
and have a picture of beer in front of me.
That's a respect for me. I'm I'm the teacher. I'm like, well,
(22:10):
you want to sit at the other table. Ok, fine,
I'm putting beer on the side.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like that means my point is, you know, that's fun
to drink with the advisor. So what's going on in
Greece though?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So we have you know, Greece and Rome, and of
course Rome had a vast empire going on and where
their reach was very far in multiple places. However, there's
been a lot of studies and a lot of architectural
you know projects that have been commissioned to find you know,
(22:40):
the effects of cannabis back in back in the day.
And you know, they found that the Romans and the
Greeks had extensive use of the plant as well as hemp.
And the first one I'm going to talk about is
in the form of concretes. So you know, the the
Romans were using hemp concrete to reinforce the mortar in
(23:01):
their buildings.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And so I wonder how they were making it back then,
where they're just getting it, breaking it up and put
it in there. I mean, how are they breaking that?
You know, I'm sure plant down to be you know
what I mean. Back then I wonder that's just and
I've heard actually of this of them using that, like
I've heard this story, but it's just weird to think
how they figured that out to use that, and why
we haven't grown from that.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, And there's there's a probably a plethora of reasons
as to why that's the case. And you know, I'm
about to break it down contextually and it'll start to
the pieces will start to, you know, put together for you.
So hemp demands little water to grow and therefore requires
no artificial irrigation and grows approximately fifty times faster than
a tree. After being harvested and cut, the plants are
(23:46):
then dried for a few days before being grouped and
poured into containers with water, which swells the stems. When dry,
the fibers can be utilized, among other uses, for the
production of paper, fabrics, ropes, biodegradable packaging, bio fuel, and
construction materials. So you could see all of the utility
that this plant has. And so now you have the
Romans who are in advanced society, and.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You would think they'd want to capitalize on this, Well,
they can utilize that.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
They couldn't They couldn't contain it, and so they couldn't
get a grip on it.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Because and it was growing too fast to speak, growing
too fast because we're paying no water, it's just growing.
It's all this timp everywhere now probably growing and growing
more and more exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So think about how efficient it is and then think
about how many uses it has. So then what does
that do to an economy? So that basically you're taking
money out from like the general economy because no one's
buying materials, so therefore the government's not getting tax and so.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
And this goes back to the Roman Empire. Yeah, so
the Roman Empire was making cloth from cotton.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, exactly exactly, and so they were.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
They weren't microfiber and everything back then.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It was yeah, and you know they were making like
paper scrolls with this thing, and so uh it was
it was uh, I've had a very high utilization rate
with it, and so you know, Roman, the Roman Empire
lasted a long time, and so there were points where
you know, I've I've found articles where they talk about
how the Romans used it recreationally and also medicinally. So
(25:20):
I think there's a lot of different points in time
that you know, cannabis had its own timeline with Rome,
and so you know, it's just another example.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Did you see the demise from Rome so to speak
of when cannabis was you know, Okay, we see the
greatness of it and they're using it for this and that.
How did it take its fall? Because that's the one
thing I don't remember seeing in like the little documentary
quick footages that I've watched of Like you mentioned that
(25:49):
the China would have happened there, but in the Romans,
how did it become I think it might have been
the same thing too, But why did they not want
to use it? I love this history, but it's hardly
remembered all the years. I know. But you did a
damn good job explaining the beginning part and taking me
to Greece and taking me why it's there and why
this and why that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, of course, got to get the context of the setting.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It's good stories because it's so true the Roman Empires.
You look at this, okay, first time now is in China.
Then we have the Roman Empires talking about cannabis and
the usage there. It's just the moral of the fact
of the story. You don't even know what you know
when they did that much. I like how you're taking
me down the first ever and we realized that this
is before Moses. Now we're going after during Moses. Actually
(26:34):
the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, Moses time Roman. The Roman Roman Empire was a
thousand years, so.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You know that was during a long long time Moses.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
So therefore, if the Romans did that because he went over,
he wasn't the Roman Empire. No, he wasn't the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, so he was using it. I gotta I gotta
look it up. But you know, the Romans had all
the way up to Sinai and Jyps all the way
through there. The Romans had Egypt, you know, like Alexander
the Great.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Roman Egypt, he was the Egyptian one. If I'm not
mistake of the Egypt don't have the snake. Yeah, that's crazy.
They all were using it back then.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yes, No, they were for multiple uses, whether it be
recreational or recreationally or medicinally. However, Joe, that is the
end of the the Roman forum, so to speak. And
I'm going to now take you back east to India
and Indi Kush Mountains, so we'll be right back.
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Speaker 3 (28:33):
Like this journey or taking me on by the way.
I am upset at myself that I didn't light a
cigar at the beginning of the show, because, uh, you
took me down a path that I wanted to smoke corner.
I was like, and then I was like mad at
myself that I didn't. So thank you for this journey.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Not too late, you got it in.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Devery exactly, not too late. This has been thank you
for taking me to China and then Greece. Where are
we going next?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
We're going to India. That's right, We're going to India.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And you know, my daughter and my brother have been
to India. Love it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's awesome, and I have not had the opportunity to go,
and I'd love to see it at some point because
I know it's very beautiful. And I the culture too,
it's very controversial, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Controversial What do you mean controversial? Just the work ethic?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What? Well, No, it's just you know, there's a lot
of uh India cultural difference.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So I love about different places though, you know what
I mean, I do love the good things, but like
if you just think about, like what's worked for those cultures, Like, dude,
that's how they've been getting down. Who are we to
sit here? I mean, you know, we want to make
human rights for everybody. And I agree, I mean, I
mean do I I mean I do, But if that's
(29:38):
how they've gotten down, I.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Mean, yeah, different horses for different courses.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Man, you know, so what's going on in India?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So, uh, India also has a rich history in cannabis.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Some say it came from India.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Some say it came from India. And you know, it's
funny because around the same time period as Shan Nung
maybe a little bit, you know, five hundred years after, Yeah, roughly,
the Indians started using cannabis. And so they started using
(30:13):
it in a plethora of ways within their food and
so they had teas, they had drinks, they had you know,
they were infusing it with walnuts, a whole bunch of stuff. So,
other preparations of cannabis in India include ganja and charas
stronger than bang Bang was the drink that I was referencing.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
B h A n g.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Ganja is made from the flowers and upper leaves of
the female plant. Charas is the strongest pepper preparation, is
made from the blooming flowers, similar in strength to hashish.
Chars contain a lot of resin Both are smoked and
earthenware pipe called chilium. The pipe is usually shared among
two to five people and it's it was a communal activity.
So along with eating it they were smoking it recreationally
(31:03):
back then, and so you know, they were growing it,
cultivating it. They were green thumbs out there, Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I mean, and it's been known all the spices and
everything that come from India like that, right, I mean,
it doesn't surprise me. But when did it become like
a bad thing out there too? Which I mean I
keep asking these random Yeah, I think the other bad
question of like it's been good. It was always known
in my opinion as well as good, like look what
it's done for us early times and how it heals
(31:33):
and even us as adults using it for real medicine.
And dude, I rubbed my wrist with it this morning, right,
and my elbow and my other wrist and my other elbow,
and I was rubbing my hips with it. This new
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here the other day when this company was here, but
I've been talking to these folks on Instagram and then
Mikayla talked to them and then they came in. Dog.
(31:56):
There's just some new medicine and creams out there that
they're making and getting down better. Meat. Mean, this company
was breaking down how they do it and I'm like
it was different, and it's like we're learning new things still. Yeah,
we're still learning new ways how this cannabis can be
like used in a way to help. And that's my
biggest way recover just medicine wise, Yeah, in all aspects
(32:18):
of life, recover urid.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, no, for real, it's like as if as your
lungs need air and you know, all your bodily functions
work right, like you need to pee, you need to
pass stuff through that system. You need to you need
to pass stuff out your intestines, your endocanaminoid system needs
to be uh regulated, you know, in the right way,
(32:44):
and like people are missing out on it. And I
genuinely think a lot of genetic issues could probably stem from,
you know, not a.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Healthier environment period, more children being developed stronger with adults
using CBD properly.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
It shouldn't be like a dot milk campaign.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, seriously, cannabis got cannabinoid because your body has him.
Do your body good, because get some cannabinoids in you today,
because apparently got milk wasn't even right, I mean really right.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It wasn't even real.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And it was like me, geez, big more milk.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Joe big milk was fucking with us.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Joe and Joe looked like we drank a lot of milk.
Got me home, Joe, you drink some milk? Oh boy,
your mom me drinks and milk.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, I know my story. Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You came from the Alme milk fucking family.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Fuck No, I was I hated milk, bro. I was
drinking oj and Ship's.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But you just have the metabolism of your dad's.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'm all ectomorphicking Ship so hard to wig.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, you're that guy crazy, You're that guy. I hate
guys like you.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I fucking I hate it too. It sucks, but I'll
be thinking myself later.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I guess you get to live the longer, healthier, so
to speak.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
But you're the skinny guy with high cholesterol, like the
other thing that you just can't see, like, oh my god,
you look so healthy.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
And I'm rotting on the inside exactly right.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
It's just like, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I know, it's crazy. Back to our point in India,
so I'm looking it up and attempts at criminalizing cannabis
and British India were made and mooted in eighteen thirty eight.
Eighteen seventy one, in eighteen seventy seven. So from my understanding,
the British came in and when they colonized India, and
(34:23):
when they were doing the British East India Trading Company
with all the tea and importing all their shit, you know,
they they probably were taxing the Indians and saw all
the use for it too and were like, you know
whatnot fuck that, it's I'm not making money from it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The British loved their taxes. They loved to tax the
fucking tax t tax bro Boston Tea Party. Okay, let's see.
The British found the use of cannabis so extensive and
colonial India that they commissioned a large, large scale study
in the late eighteen nineties. They were concerned that the
abuse of cannabis was endangering the health of the native
people and driving them insane. Could the British government asked
(35:01):
the Government of India to appoint a commission to look
into the cultivation of the hemp plant, preparation of drugs
from it, trade in those drugs, the social and moral
impact of its consumption, and possible prohibition. So they came
in there saw that shit use the excuse that it
was fucking making them insane, and they banned that shit.
They tried to. Yeah, and so in nineteen sixty one
(35:25):
International Treaty Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs classified cannabis with
hard drugs. During the negotiations, the India and delegation opposed
its intolerance to the social and religious customs of India.
As compromised, the Indian government promise to limit the export
of Indian hemp, and the final draft of treaty defined
cannabis as cannabis means the flowering or fruiting tops of
(35:49):
cannabis blah blah blah. So the Indian government is strict
with the cannabis policy. According to Section twenty of the
NDPS Act, holding a small quantity of weed can like
you in jail for rigorous imprisonment of up to six
months or a fine of ten thousand of their currency.
(36:10):
Cultivation of cannabis for industrial purposes such as making industrial
hemp or for horticulture uses in is legal in India.
So industrial horticultural use is legal. So you know, that's
that was probably their compromise with the British, that they
couldn't use it psychoactively.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
So do you guys know why, like it was super
legalized in the United States for so long? Like, is
there is there a reason for that? Do you guys
know a gang of reasons? I you know, for mine?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
From how I see it, it's that the government has
never been prepared to truly profit off of it and
don't understand the industry well enough to be able to
do that. So they've just made it schedule one the
whole time because that's what's convenient, and they can fill
their quotas on you know, black market busts and all
that shit.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's a good question though, Joe, Like when did the
law first come in that cannabis is a scheduled one drug?
Is that the Google search connor what is the fucking
proper way to look that ap of a date time?
Like that? That's kind of what you're asking, right, Joe,
because I don't know that answer that I've heard it.
I feel like and I know it, but I don't
(37:24):
know it. No.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, I mean, like you guys can mention like the
power for properties it has and like how it was
used in civilization for so long that I never really you.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Would think that in the United States. It just was there,
and the Indians were using it obviously, yeah, right, And
so when they came to the United States, Indians were
using it, the Mexicans were using it obviously, right. So
they kick everybody out. Let's just talk about California, how
this really went down, or call it Plymouth Rock, whatever
you want to do in Pennsylvania. But they came in
and they pushed people out. Our government becomes a government.
(37:57):
Let's just jump right ahead of time. And my point is,
when does the law become weed? Smoking weed is illegal?
You got that answer now, Gunner.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
In the Controlled Substance Act of nineteen seventy, the federal
government categorized marijuana as a Schedule on substance, meaning it
was considered to have no exceptacle medical use and was
among the class of drugs having the highest potential for misuse.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
That's where the sixties folks were. The sixties and the seventies,
they tried to come him down. That's when I came around.
I'm a seventy two, you feel me, so therefore I
seen this like that and that's why I started smoking
when I was six. Yep, because that was seventy eight.
You feel isn't that funny. Crazy to think like that
when you look at this and that's when it was firstly,
it's a bigger deal now, but it really wasn't when
(38:43):
I was first there. Because I'm eight ten, eight years
in of it being illegal. You know, my brother's already
coming for Nebraska. He's already ten years older than me,
so he's experienced it being legal to now it's an
illegal drug. I just put that together right now for
the first time of my life.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Crazy the time, because like think about it in school
even they like don't teach history in chronological order, so
everything seems like I've been.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Doing it exactly forever, like it's not that long ago. No, No,
it was eight years before I fucking smoked weed, that
it was illegal two years before I was born.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, come on, I know. It's it's pretty wild crazy
that we say that everything's co everything coincides and kind
of happens around the same time. You know, it's out
of whether it's divine.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I never looked at just to think of my lifetog
two years before I was born, cannabis wasn't even fucking illegal. Wow, crazy?
Is that wild? And to think like Mark and Craig washerman.
They were growing up, it was legal, yeah, and then
it got illegal.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Fuck, put the fucking hammer down? Was that Nixon? Nineteen seventy?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Hold up? Who was that president? What was it? Nixon?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I think so? Or was that might've been after Watergate?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Who as the president in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy two
when I was born? Wasn't it seventy two?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And I was Nixon sixty nine to seventy four?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah? Was this fucker? This dude is such a bastard.
Oh my god, this a Nixon is the.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
One that did it.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
He was a little fucking He had that fucking face
too that he's like, I got.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Lunch, did the fucking every time you got fire? Did
the peace sign? Shit? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
It was all smoking cigar? Soo? Wasn't he the Nickson?
This guardmokers?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Dare I think so? And did he sent us to
fucking he sent us to NORM? Because I was after Korea?
Was in fifties Nixon?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
No, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Or he might have taken over during NORM.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
But either way, seventies, I mean yeah, same time. He's
an asshole. Thank you Connor for the history lesson. It's
a pleasure of course.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Uh, thank you all for listening to Cannabis Talk one
on one, your world's number one source for everything in cannabis.
I'm Connor and this is Joe Bronde and if no
one else loves you, we do.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one
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