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Speaker 3 (01:56):
Welcome. Let's let's give a round of a pause when
we do.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And you have some vast experience in the cannabis industry,
and you know you've come in full force to the
to the studio and you've put in some great work,
so tell us and tell the audience a little bit
about you know your story with Mary Jane.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Well, we've been friends for a long long time, very
familiar with each other. I started smoking a little way
too young, I think we all did, but it really
helped me a lot with depression and anxiety. I used
to be really anti social and scared to talk to
people or constantly in my head. And I've definitely bloomed
into a person who now I can't leave a place
(02:44):
without talking to everybody in there.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know, Yeah, you're very confident.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know what I'm saying, and it's very noticeable, and
you know it's in the best way possible.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Of course, Thank you, thank you. It definitely eases the mind.
I think when you're an overthinker or someone who is
like OCD and you're constantly worried about every thing, it
definitely tells you to just hit the pause button, take
things easy, right, and also it helps you slow down
and think before you speak kind of thing. So I
very much. I'm a huge believer in the plant for.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Sure, totally.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And so you know you had your passion for the
plant pretty early, and then when did that become into
a profession for you?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Straight out of high school. I think when I was eighteen,
you know, I think we all started kind of in
the black market. We lived in California. I got my
first trimming job in LA. Started doing like basic graphic
designing for certain companies starting out, so dabbled in like
the digital media marketing. I've always done sales to If
you're in California, you could get a sales job selling
(03:46):
anything from car insurance warranties to college taxes, literally anything.
So that started there and then got into bud tending.
Loved it. Loved being able to actually be a woman
in the industry who was knowledgeable and could actually provide
a result out of what you're taking home.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
We saw a lot of the cute girls in the industry,
which is awesome, but it doesn't really work for someone
like me who's actually using the plant for something. I
need you to know what you're giving me, and I
shouldn't know more than you for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know, you got to be extremely knowledgeable about you know,
something that can change someone's life for better or for worse,
and so you know you need to have ten toes
down with it. And as Mikayla, you do, you have
you know, shown your your green colors to the world here,
and you know it's been it's been very awesome. So
(04:42):
today we're going to be diving into the marijuana moment
April twenty second for twenty THEMS newsletter, and there's some
there's some stories on here, and there's some there's some news,
so let's just dive right into it. The first, you know,
headline on the newsletter was that Joe Biden and Kamala
(05:07):
Harris tweet simultaneously on four to twenty at four to
twenty pm, very planned and in support of cannabis.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So let me let me break down. I got the
tweets right here.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So Joe Biden tweeted, sending people to prison just for
possessing marijuana has upended too many lives and incarcerated people
for conduct that many states no longer prohibit. It is
the time we write these wrongs. And Kamala Harris tweeted,
nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed.
We must continue to change our nation's approach to marijuana
(05:43):
while reforming the justice system so it finally lives up
to its name.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Kayla, thoughts please.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I saw both of those tweets and My thoughts are,
first of all, let's go Brandon. And also I don't know,
I feel like I read this article as well, and
they kind of just like blamed it on the state.
They're like, you know, we're just for the approval. It's
kind of like blaming like that one friend in the
group for getting the f when it was a group project.
You know, I'm just like, yes, well, also, elections are
(06:12):
coming up, so of course.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Like campaigning point.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, you know, of course you're going to bring it
up now you've had all this time, and I just
think things have gotten worse as a whole. But I mean,
we're getting political. I just think it's funny we need
to do it already. Too many people in prison and
jail for cannabis. It's just ridiculous at this point.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Definitely, And.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, obviously it can get done, and it hasn't
because it's been convenient, not too of course, and money, elections,
you know, lobbying, yeah, constituents, the whole gambit. So you know,
we've been waiting patiently, I'd say pretty fucking patiently.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You know, they got people going to jail for this shit.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
We got a whole bunch of people that are trying
to illegal but can't due to a whole bunch of
bureaucratic reasons, and then it just does. It sometimes feels
like a slap to the face when you have then
senators saying, you know, like for example, Earl Bloomin Hour,
a representative out of Oregon, said this year will be
(07:18):
the last four to twenty celebration that cannabis will be
on Schedule one, adding that lawmakers are making progress on
passing a cannabis banking bill soon. It's like how many
times are they going to regurgitate the same phrase to us?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And I get it, I mean think about it every
time we want to get anything changed. This is why
change is so hard, because it is the system is
meant for it to not really work. You're going through
not just like the state, you're going through legality. Like
how many people still if I can get we delivered
to my house and you can't get a job because
of old charges, I think that's kind of ridiculous, right, Yeah,
(07:55):
but again, it goes through so many layers that it's
almost impossible, say you get it approved. Now we're talking banking,
we're talking money transactions, we're talking everyone's involved. Yeah, and
it's going to be legal, you know, so they have
to be able to track that some way, which again
it could be a positive. We've seen a lot of
positive from the legalization of cannabis, but we've also seen
(08:18):
highest tax rates ever, you know, making it impossible new
laws every five seconds for these companies to jump holes
through and hoops through.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
So it's just too much, yep.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And you know, I think that it's it can be
just very discouraging to want to do this the right way.
And you know, we got to be able to encourage
the people who are actually doing this industry right, Like
I can't give you.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I can't give you, you know. I like, there's so.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Many on our podcasts alone. Education is key, exactly exactly.
There are so many this is on our podcast alone
that could give someone faith in this plant. And so
I encourage you to go through our whole catalog of shows,
and you know, you can find the Brian Buckley episode,
the Jaden's Juice episode, You could go all over the
(09:14):
place from all different perspectives on our show.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There's something for everyone. I feel like, because I've come
from a very stigmatized family when it comes to cannabis,
and I've shown them videos. You know, hey, look at this.
This is a mother. You know, she has a young
child who's suffering and needs help. This has helped. There's proof,
there's doctors standing behind it. There are advocates for this,
you know, and they come from all walks of life.
(09:37):
And I think that's why it's so important.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
To educate yourself, definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Destigmatize it, make sure that we're actually pushing this in
the right way. That way, when that conversation comes up
with our governors and with our legislators, like, yes, this
is what we need. Let's stop criminalizing this plant totally.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Get off the list, totally, totally, and you know, all
valid points. You know, I think that you know, we're
obviously headed in the right direction. If you know, it's
coming up to a critical point in our nation with
this election coming up, so hopefully cannabis can seek its
way in.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's been cannabis talk one on one. We're going to
take a quick break. When we come back. We got
some more of this newsletter to dive into. We will
see you when we come back.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
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Okayla, we're back. We're in there like swe where it's
Cannabis Talk one on one. In this next segment, we're
gonna be getting.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Into some more of that newsletter, some news you can use, right, Daniel,
So let's let's jump back into the newsletter. You know,
it gets broken down by top things you should know,
and that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
We initially covered with.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and kind of the status
on the federal level.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So I'm gonna scroll down a little bit to.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The federal section and so let's just let's just read
them down, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Former Senate Majority Leader.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Tom das School spoke in support of pending of a
pending federal marijuana reform built out of cannabis happy hour events.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That's lovely.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Senate Banking Committee Chairman Charad Brown reiterated his support for
combining marijuana banking legislation with measures on cryptocurrency and other issues.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That that's pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Representative Nancy Mace tweeted Schumer could have done safe banking
in the one hundred and seventeenth Congress, but he didn't
have the cajones to do it. This is just more
of the same, say one thing, do another d CBS.
Both sides are particularly well versed at it. That that's
a banger's.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That's a quote almost because the second you told me
about this, I said, oh, that's BS.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Totals thank you pushing it, yep or seeing right through it.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Whole lot of talk, yes, not a lot of follow up.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, it's very sad and unfortunate, and you know it,
like I said in the last segment, it's discouraging that,
you know, you see all of these senators and uh
representedatives talking about how much they they would like to
see change. But like I said, it's like a slap
(13:07):
to the face essentially, and they.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Keep saying safe banking banking, right, Like what would that
look like?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Though, Let's let's take a little gander cannabis banking.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Because I know a lot of people already have issues
with that. I mean we've dealt with it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, like from a from a bud tender perspective, Like,
how was it managing you know, cash flow coming into that.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well back in the day, it was awful. I mean
we had safes so cash only yeah, ATMs in the
building to make sure people pull up cash. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And back then, did you have like, uh, like a
CRM at all or like a point point of service
system whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
The closest thing we ever had was like incentive like
sheets where you would just write how like what product
you sell sold or who the person was, how much
you sold, how much your like total was, and then
you would total how much you made in the day. Wow,
and then whoever made like the most amount of sales
would like win a bonus or something that was the
most we ever kept inventory of.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Interesting, So it was all analog and like was it
written was it, uh like, were you getting paid like
hourly there or was it purely off this No.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
We're still paid hourly, yeah definitely. But I mean we
didn't really have like clocking systems really nothing like that.
Sometimes we would even get paid by day. They'd like
give you a cut off of just what you made
that day.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I mean I can't relate to you know, I've never
worked in the dispensary or.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I've worked in like the trap ones, right, and then
also like the legal ones now of course, and it's
night and day, which is why I believe in legalization
and all of that, because it's it does kind of
keep people accountable and it and it moves us more
towards like a corporate standpoint, right where again you're accountable,
you have things logged, you know, things don't fall through
the cracks. You don't get told one thing and then
(15:06):
it doesn't happen. So that's why it's really important, right.
But I mean there are systems now that exist. I mean,
we used to use Trees, which is a cannabis paved
system where you can log everything on there. People can
tip everything, so it got really really nice. But same thing.
I mean, cannabis industry is cannabis industry. I feel like
(15:26):
it's always something something going on. Something. Yeah, whether it's
like giving out too many freebies or doing loops, it's
it's always something.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, So what would you say you'd prefer like the experience?
Did you like the the head trap headshop more than
the legal dispensary?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Some one's had their game and take. I mean at
the Traps, we could smoke inside. I was rolling blunts
all day like no problem, you know, but we could
tab people out. Now, of course, you don't want people
leaving your facility stoned and they're driving a car, and
you know, if they get ability liability, you don't want that, right.
And also we just got to encourage safe use. But
(16:05):
that's the only thing, really big difference. I really do
prefer the legal businesses just because, yeah, too many things
have happened. I don't want to turn my back and
feel like we're going to get raided. You know, that's
not fun.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So sketch like it's awful.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, but like we said, it's fucking hard to get there.
It's so difficult, and it's you know, I didn't know
anything going into it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Of going into this job.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Of like, I was a very recreational, ignorant smoker when
I came into this, and now I've gotten very green pilled,
we'll say. And you know, I've I've just heard one
too many stories now of how just erratic and disorganized
and chaotic it is to have your shit legal. And
(16:54):
you know, they've now divvied up. You have to get
all the licenses for specific kinds of manufacturing.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And you know just that if you want.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
A lounge, you got to get a liquor license. You
got to have that's separate in a whole o their address.
You need to have multiple addresses just to have like
a smoking lounge and food in the same area like that,
you know what I mean, it is absolutely impossible. But
in the long run, and this is why I also
encourage consumers to actually, you know, spend that penny. I know,
(17:24):
I know it's hard, especially living in California, how much
we pay rent and everything. I know, it's hard to
go and support like an actual shop and have your
favorite shop.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And yeah, because you could go somewhere else and not
pay tax and support you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Know, the black market is continuously outdoing you know, the
legal shops and brands, and it sucks because these people
are putting their heart and soul and everything they have
into these companies just to even give you the product
to your table, you know, but I mean so much
comes from it you're not getting. I've definitely been told
by managers at chop shops sell that weed. I don't
(17:57):
care if it has mold, Like we're talking your smoke
mold into your lungs. That's absolutely horrible, Like that should
never happen. Yeah, you know, practice if we're talking about
your health and and if you're i know, stoners that
smoke all day, you know, every day of the week.
You know, you can't be putting something like that into
your body so consistently and then expect not expect like
(18:19):
bad results. So get your tested products, make sure you
actually do the research of like who their licensing company is,
who their creditors are, who's testing their flower, make sure
that they're not you know, making a little secret decisions
in the background.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
But because all of that matters, it really doesnt matter.
You can get a legal brand and they're just not
really being truthful.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Definitely too Definitely it's and like don't feel intimidated to
like when you get to a dispensary to like ask questions.
Like ever since I started to understand what questions I
needed to ask, I started asking them at dispensaries. And
it's helped out with you know, the quality of stuff
that I'm putting into my body, and you know, most
(19:04):
nine times out of ten, the bud tender you know,
will be able to answer your questions.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
A little bud tender secret though. This is why I encourage, like,
if you have your own favorite dispensary that you go
to like every week, they have the best deals or
whatever it is they hook you up, do the research
on the brands that they have there on your own
as well. Yeah, because sometimes bud tenders are incentivized by
these brands to push the best best flower and they
don't even smoke it. I guarantee you that's a real
(19:30):
thing too. Or or they're really just talking out there
button they don't really know and they just want to
make the sale and sound good to you. You know,
they don't want to look a little dumb. Yeah yeah, yah,
that flowers awesome. And you know they're this tests and
the other me personally as a bud tender. I got
into the space because I made sure to do that
research on my own so that you didn't have to.
But we can't guarantee that every bud tender is doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, definitely. So it's.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You know, if you're going to take a point from this,
do your research. You know, Google, it's a Google keyword
search away, you know, to go and find what you
need to find. Uh, you know, figure out who's testing
the product that you're putting in your body, where it's
being processed. You know, check check your local regulations, you
(20:16):
know everything, because you know, you never know, you know,
whether it's that specific batch was grown in soil with
metal or you know, you don't know if that batch
was sprayed with pesticides. You know, and you know there's
ways to tell. For example, your ass should be burning
white in your bowl or in your joint, not all
the way black, but anyway.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
There's ways to check.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Color of concentrates. That's so easy. I always tell people,
you know, I think some people are scared of like
darker concentrates. It really depends. Some rosin can be very greeny,
some can be very like brownish orangey. It just depends.
It also depends on the strain all that kind of stuff.
But if you find that canvas consultant or whatever who
who is knowledgeable and you can just tell like they're
(21:00):
constantly doing facts at you lean into those, those are
the ones. Because nowadays they're some crazy bud tenders. They're
like so smart and like know everything. I'm just like, yeah, dude,
you should write a book.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, find the passionate ones.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Like we just had Master Mentors Live and there were
several great UH speakers that came out and I learned
a lot myself. And I was, you know, I was
operating the boards with Daniel back there, and you know,
I was still I was still listening. And you know,
there's some very very knowledgeable people out there. And when
you go and put your faith into someone that is
(21:34):
focused on the consumer themselves, that's that's when you know
you're going to have a great experience and you don't
have to stress out and you can like continue to
go and get that brand. And like from what I've
seen in the cannabis industry of when people coming in here,
like they're very receptive to people that respond well to
their products. Like so many people be like, yeah, like
(21:55):
give me like give me your address, I'll hook you up
with a whole bunch shit.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Da da da dad. You know what I'm saying, Like
they'll they put so much into it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and it means a lot that like, and I
feel with cannabis especially, there are a lot of people
who are that are passionate about the plant, that like it.
They can they genuinely see it as they're changing someone's
life for the better, and like they take that, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I would say.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
There's like two to three different types of like users. Right,
There's the one who like depends on it for medicinal reasons,
like they're buying large batches. If you give them the
wrong product, they're coming back upset because they're in pain
or can't sleep type of thing. Then there's your regular
everyday consumer who's just smoking weed every day. You're you're
(22:37):
cheech and chongs, you're you know, yep. They are really
not well versed. They don't care. They give me whatever,
whatever's the cheapest, whatever is the coolest. I like that packaging.
I don't even care what's it is.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You can go blue in the face trying to explain
like the difference of this this and the other I
don't care, give me, give me my flower, what has
a deal exactly? You know. And then there's like the
othernsumer who's like the connoisseur, right, the cannabis connoisseur, the
one who's like actually taking their time flavor profiles, doing
their research, really into the product, getting to know the
(23:12):
actual brands, the owners, why they do what they do.
And I think like all of those people are what
makes this community right, and those are the people that
need these legalizations, that need these things to move forwards,
that their experience is a lot better throughout right, it
needs to get easier for that consumer. It needs to
get easier for the elderly who are coming in and
(23:34):
have no idea what to purchase exactly, or the person
who doesn't care and just gets all the information quick
and then they can make their decision, or the connoisseur
who wants to know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Definitely, definitely, And like, ultimately, I think, you know, this
progression that we've seen where different demographics are getting hit
has been obviously really good for the industry. And I
think just from a human syche logical standpoint, you know,
people relate better when it's they see someone experiencing something
(24:08):
that's like it's close to them, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if if there's a seven year old lady who sees
a video of another seven year old lady going into
a dispenser, they're gonna be a lot more open to
being like, oh, like my, like my people are you know,
going and doing that like that It's okay, it's acceptable,
and like that's the whole.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Thing, is like the reason why this is important?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, totally, and like it'll it can help break that
you know, social construct, that preconceived notion that you know,
this is just for the thugs and the gangbangers.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I would love my elderly clients. They were my favorites because, hey,
they buy the most because they really need it, and
you can really guide them. You know. Also, there's so
many companies nowadays that make it so easy. It's almost
like having your medicine cabinet. They're not you know, you
can give them a topical, you can give them a tincture,
a patch. They have patches nowadays, slap it on, It
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lasts forty eight hours and you don't even have to
worry about it. They don't even think about it, you know, totally.
And that's what I always tell my older customers. I'm like,
tell your friends, tell people that you know have your
same problems, because I know you know multiple and bring
them in here. This experience is meant to be like
a storefront. We come out to you, you come up
to us, whatever it is, You tell us what you need,
and we should be able to guide you to what works.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Definitely, you know, definitely, and we're we're on our way there.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You know, there's definitely a few brands that have started
to tap into that market, Like off the top of
my head, I know Papa and Barkley, like some great
brands that you know are opening up to that demographic.
And that's something that we like to see because this
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the ship can help anyone at any age group.
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the newsletter one more time and kind of check out
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Speaker 2 (27:28):
So they have a little state state section and they
just reel off whole bunch of news out of each
of the states.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So you down to go through this.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yep, all right, we're gonna start in New York. I'm
sorry for butchering all your names. Representatives of our great nation.
Kathy Hoochel Hokal, one of the two, announced new plans
to shut down unlicensed marijuana businesses under provisions included in
budget legislation. A senator touted various quote wins for cannabis
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in the budget deal, while other lawmakers cited the lack
of relief funds for farmers. That's that's a little interesting
one that you know they're actively you know they're going down,
they're going after the unlicensed businesses. I would like to
have seen that they would want to help unlicensed businesses.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You know, it's budget though, that's what they're saying. It's budget,
not enough budget, so cutting it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
They're not giving us enough money. We don't need to
help you.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That's brutal.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
And it's funny because they say various wins for cannabis
in the budget deal, as if, like, I don't know
if that means provisions included in budget legislations plans to
shut down unlicensed marijuana businesses under provisions included in budget legislation.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Like, does that mean that they're I think that's the
win for them, is that they're getting rid of that
budget by shutting these down. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, they're saving money.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah. I feel like farmers always get the hit too.
We've had a couple of farmers on here who with
really successful like flower brands, and man, they're hurting. They're hurting.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I know. It's every time I'd say, you know,
most times at a farmer talks about it's you know,
they're struggling to break even with their grow, which it
makes sense, how much probably goes into it growth so much. Yeah,
and then you know, coupled with the oversaturation of the
market right now, you know, shit isn't selling off the
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shelves too much at the moment.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Right making it too expensive. Guys, I'm telling you, yep.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yep, it's getting out of hand. The bubble's got a burst.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Illinois Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker, how did the economic impact
of the state's marijuana legalization law while campaigning for President
Joe Biden's re election, Yeah, the economic impact and being
legalized has been good. But I personally bought whed in
Illinois in the last year, and that ship was expend really,
(30:01):
so I bought a pen, a three hundred milligram pen, right,
so not even third Yes, it is like still, I
mean it's a thousand milligrams, right, or a total out
of one gram. So I got three hundred and whatever
milligrams right. This ship sticker price was like twenty two bucks.
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I was like, still, that's a lot for that, but whatever,
far from home, I'll buy it. And then sales taxes
was like forty two percent, and so then my total
was above forty bucks. And uh for one thing, guys,
one fucking pen that was not even a half a gram. Yeah, Like,
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come on, Illinois, figure that shit out please, that's annoying.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I'm like, did Jesus press them press this himself?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Like like this shit better get me? So steez, it's
not even fun, that's it?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I mean I think the brand was Select.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Oh okay, yeah, Selection is used to be in California.
They actually pulled out of California. Oh yeah, interesting, Yeah,
they didn't fuck with it.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Let's go to Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oklahoma's attorney General cheered cheered the House's passage of a
bill that will allow police to arrest and incarcerate undocumented immigrants,
which he said will assist his efforts to eliminate Oklahoma's
numerous illegal marijuana grows, often run by foreign nationals. That
is quite the statement, hitting.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Two birds with one stone on that one.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, men like efficiency, you know there's that's that's pretty
uh playing into the point. I mean, I know Oklahoma
has a decent cannabis market as it is, right, so.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
You know it's uh My thing is is it says
that they just passed a bill that will allow police
to arrest and incarcerate undocumented immigrants. Why was that not
a thing before? Isn't that like everywhere? Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I would assume so at the federal level, that's crazy
that will love police to arrest in car, straight and dog.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Maybe maybe had to go through for marijuana, like.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I don't like, I don't know, I'm spitballing here. Maybe
it went through like like border control or like ice
or whatever. It was okay, But and now maybe they
have like like the actual police like local power to
be able like within their jurisdiction to be able to
like handle that and process that probably, so I would
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assume that's the case. Oregon regulators approved rules on marijuana
batch tagging and published a related informational bulletin. Let's check
out this little bulletin real quick. It's a whole PDF
file rules on batch tagging, so the background is streamlined.
Plant tagging and reduce plastic waste with Organ's new batchtagging
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option available for cannabis plants starting June seventeenth, twenty twenty four.
This date allows producers to tag groups of plants with
a single tag instead of individually tagging each plant. It's
gonna save a lot of time and money right there.
The rules regarding this change can be found at OAR
and this link, and also call at eight four fives
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zero two five seven five to zero.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I feel like Organs are always ahead of the game.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, they're very forward thinking in terms of well, say,
I'll say cannabis because that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You know, they're you know, always pushing the culture with it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I always had friends I went up to school in
Oregon and they always got like an insane amount of
quality weed for such a cheap price. Yep.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I know, my mother in law sister. She lives in
organ and always when I was buntending, she would always
come visit me and she'd be like, dude, I can
get so much more an organ for this. Like I
would be like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, for real, It's like it's it's weird too, like
I don't know where the where the capital of cannabis
in the world.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And then you know, I'm not surprised though they would
do us like this and look, California's next, look at.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That, California's next. Let's check it out. So let me
let me get back to this. Uh backed me out.
California regulators announced a recall of marijuana products due to
the presence of aspergillis aspergillis and because of an inaccurate
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labeling reporting more THHC than the product contains.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Soccer.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, I mean they know the general mark is going
off THHC percentage and they're taking advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Stop doing that.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
There's nothing like forg You must be like reaching new heights.
I don't know, but people need to get that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Stop if you see it.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I don't know. The game is going to be changing.
I can feel it. I know it's going to be changing.
We hear it with these testers. You know it's something
needs to change. It's just again, how much time takes
it takes for these changes to happen?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, like how long is it going to be until
it's like not an excuse anymore to like fucking cut
corners and and you know, malpractice, bad ethics. I'm not
accusing anyone, however, fucking do it right, yeah, by the consumer.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I'm just happy though that I've heard this conversation come
up a lot more as of late, talking about like
THHG shouldn't be that high. This isn't a thing, like
these people are lying to you. Trust that. And then
there's the other side of our market where it's like, no, dude,
we have the highest testing TD, get it right here,
get it today, like get.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
The most fucked up, Like you're not getting high enough
if it's not fucking mega blasted labeled with.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
THC like and none of us want to hear a
t break, right, we don't want to hear those words.
But it's it's real, like I do it. I definitely, Well,
we'll make sure like Okay, today's an air and day,
let's not touch it for today because let's just get
stuff done. Not that it keeps me from getting stuff done,
but you just.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Need like a day or two, I think here and
there totally, Like as in everything food, literally you could
do it with water, like you know, if you use
too much of it, use it irresponsibly, then you know,
in anything in life, then it could go badly. So
you know, obviously you have to use what's right for
you in moderation, and you know, not abuse this beautiful
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plant because I have, you know, and it takes one
to know one, like.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I've abused it.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, I've abused it, for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I've abused that.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I've said that I'm open about it and that, like
you know, everyone everyone has their own relationship with the plant.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You're also just ruining the experience for yourself, I think.
And then this is coming from someone who's a dabber.
I'm a big like user. You know, you're not supposed
to be dabbing as much as I do. You know,
I've heard that way often, but it's a thing I
think as we get older, you know, we've got to
kind of take it easy because then you're just ruining
the experience. You really are. Next time you want to
hit something and you want to actually test something, it's
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not going to work as well for you as it
is for someone else. And then you're just going to
constantly try and reach that new high over and over
and over again, and you're just not going to get there.
Give yourself a little break. I'll promise you. The next
time you take a hit, you're gonna be so faded.
You're gonna be like, oh.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
My god, totally.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
And it's obviously like if you can get past the
point of like chasing the high and then like using it,
like being aware of your body and like knowing when to.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Use it, it becomes like a whole different a whole
different ballgames.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
A good piece of advice someone gave me. I think
it was another consultant that told me this. It was,
if you don't want to take a t break, use
lower THD percentages, like actually use a not as like
potent product. And if you use that, the next time
you get something that's like really really good, you're gonna
be like, okay, yeah, I'll see this difference. That's what
I don't want to do. You don't want to can
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stop smoking completely, get some of that lighter stuff and
take it easy on that. Don't be hitting the hundred
millis every other.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Day, you know, totally.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And like also, you know, which we were kind of
talking about the THC labeling can be deceptive where you know,
if you're listening to this show and you're just getting
into cannabis, you know, find ask about you know, brands,
look up brands that are doing well, that are tested well,
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and it doesn't matter the percentage. It's like, as long
as it's grown properly, it's still gonna get you faded.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, and I wouldn't also like worry too much about
like how popular they are either, because with any company,
the larger you get, the harder it is to control
the quality. Right. That's not always the case, but yeah,
it really just depends. And sometimes these smaller brands are
the ones who really are like the heavy hitters. It
might not look like it. You might not have enough
money to give you that amazing like packaging, it might
(38:57):
be very simple, but somehow those brands are honestly the
totally hit.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
For me totally.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Like then they literally just can't scale because the industry's
fucking fun, but.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
They're putting all their money, They're putting all that money
into like what matters right, like your grow and your
quality versus the shebang boodle you know of the outside. Yes,
don't judge a book by its cover.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Never, don't do that. Fucking easy, easy one. So let's
let's go over a little bit more of this UH newsletter.
Missouri regulators issued a health advisory about risks associated with
hemp derived intoxicating cannabinoids. That's scary, yep, hemp, hemp too, hemp,
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which I don't know a whole lot about growing hemp.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Well, I've had buddies who travel right and like tours
or whatever it is, and my husband who just recently
went on a tour, and he told me he had
seen some hemp products, like obviously every where these different
states have them heavily versus like us, you know, we
have TCH and CBD available to anywhere. He was saying,
some of the stuff is scary though, because you would
(40:11):
think it looks like TCH and like you're just getting
like like stizzy packs that are hemp derived, and like
in a smoke shop and you wouldn't even know any
Joe Schmo would walk in there thinking they're getting like
a legit thing, you know. And and I mean again,
those those areas too. They they're pretty much know what
what they can and can't get, right, Like you know
(40:33):
where to go to get what, but I I don't know.
I don't like hemp stuff. I've gotten a lot of
hemp stuff. It's really nasty to me. But I think
that's also just because we're used to, like all the
glitz and glam out here in Beautiful Flower. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, we're spoiled as hell out here.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, spoiled but not.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, it's a weird position to be in. Like like
some days, you know, I'm like going to get weed
or whatever, and I'm just like, damn, I fucking this
shit sucks, like fuck so expensive. And then some days
I'm like damn, like I have like forty dispensaries to
pick from. Holy shit, Like I can just fucking go
here and pick up all my shit.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
I'm not even gonna lie. I don't really even go
to dispensaries that much anymore. Yeah, no, I mean at
this point, like you become friends with the growers and stuff,
of course you could get it from that, but yeah,
not everybody has that luxury. But yeah, no, I'm very
careful with like what I get. Like I'm friends with
like people who washed for these companies and things like that.
So that's where I get the benefit. But if not,
(41:34):
I wouldn't be touching it. And and same thing even
going into a dispensary now with a friend or anything,
like oh, let's get this joint, let's get the other own,
and I'm like, I don't do diamonds. I don't do
any of that filler stuff. I just I just want
like good clean products.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's so nice, like finding your preference in cannabis too,
and you just know what to look for is locked in,
or like you know what to ask for whatever. It
used to be very overwhelming going into dispensary and like
seeing all these brands and not knowing what questions to
ask for a lot of.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
People, it still is totally especially now some of these
stores here in California literally looks like museums or like
art shows. So yeah, yeah, it's definitely a lot. Like
I walked into Planet thirteen for the first time, and
I was like, I'm someone who knows this industry and
has been around, right, And there were some brands I
wasn't aware of. It was also just a lot. It
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was a lot. I was just like overwhelmed. I was like,
this is where do I even start.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, there's you know product everywhere, sweat and bright lights.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
You know, no phones allowed, you know, scan your ideas.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Not like a real rule anymore. Really, these shops want
you to film their their stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well yeah, now that it's a you know marketoums.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, although I have been checked a couple of times,
like really recently or not not crazy recently, but they'll
just be like, yeah, no phones in here. But the
industry's changed, at least in California, Like people's OC Like
that's like an Apple store.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Oh yeah, well I used to work at the Jade
Room in OC and oh they literally have like mirrors
for you to take videos of and stuff like they
like take a selfie here, and it's like little.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Oh yeah, they have like the dimes set up in
a chair like they're like a fat Game of Thrones
looking chair at the dying shit.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, definitely. I mean it's pretty cool come a long way.
Although it's.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Experience, yeah, which those I can appreciate because you're not
just coming in to shop and go home, like you
can bring your friends there. You know. It's like a
whoa you have out of state friends. You bring them there.
That's it. You're the cool kid, you know. Check out
Bobby from California live in the Big Life.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, it's like a kid at a candy shop.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, no, seriously, that's what I used to always tell them.
I was like, this is like the adult candy shop
for us.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
It totally is.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
We're going to do a couple more of these little
tickers news tickers on marijuana moment. We're gonna stop internationally
real quick. Belgium's federal parliament approved an informational report on
cannabis and drug policies. It's very vague, but I like
the direction Belgium. That's very good of you. Your neighbor
(44:12):
is Netherlands. You have Amsterdam right next to you. Figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Jump on the train. It's leaving.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
So easy you could do. You could do your orange
light districts or something. Just copy it real quick, and
then please don't do that.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
It's all just.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Make it a chocolate Wonderland Belgium.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, Belgium, yeah, exactly, chocolate yeah, yeah, yeah, they're going
to be like the capital of the chocolate edibles. Yes.
The Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration issued to notice about questionable
medicinal cannabis products. That's also very vague. Let's see if
(44:55):
this links me anywhere. I want to find out what
the hell that means. All medicinal cannabis products applied to
Australian patients must meet quality standards.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
The Therapeutic Goods Administration the TGA, is aware of recent
media reports regarding questionable medicinal cannabis products being supplied in Australia.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
The TGA would like to confirm this.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
What is happening in this industry that everything is so questionable? Yeah,
it's like we're at the what happened to grow it?
You know, show it and send it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Like yeah, it like we're we're like on like a spectrum,
but it's like a circle and it just keeps like
it went. It went progressive and now it's just getting
harder to like fit in the legal Yes, it's this
is cooked, like all of it.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
That's like, guys, can we get a system and follow it?
Me here all the time?
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Please, you know, make everyone's life easier, make it all easy.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
No more questioning things. Let's get the answers.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
This is a good one.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
The uh you see the ease workers, they unionized and
they ratified their first statewide through year contract.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah. Round of applause.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Hot's off to all the people who love unions and
understand the importance of them, especially in this space.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
That shit's hard to do.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah for real, how long did you guys stand outside
for us? When I want to know? Seriously, somebody pick
it fence like signs? Did you guys bring I know?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, I mean we could spend a whole other show
talking about that specific topic, so we'll save that for
another one. All right, last fun one I want to
I want to touch on before we get on out
of here. Former basketball player Carmelo Anthony is launching his
own cannabis brand, Hoodie Mellow. It better be fucking named that.
Are you shitting me? Hoodie Mellow or that's the strain name?
(47:00):
Uh oh, it's called Stay Mellow. That's his that's his
brand name, and it's stylized with the seven like his
number instead of an L and mellow. It is the
first brand launch under the umbrella of new cannabis focused
agency called Grand National, built with Load Cannabis CEO and
(47:23):
founder Jesse Horton and Chief creative director Brandon Drew Jordan
Pierce aka BED. The agency will focus on brand creation, expansion,
strategy and marketing efforts. What can consumer What can ad
consumer expect? Perhaps an esthetic a la Nike, where Pierce
was once a creative ad writer. Okay, I mean shout
(47:44):
out to Mellow.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I love that guy. Uh, that dude's one of the goats.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Does this thing come like a shoe box kind of thing?
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, let me see that?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
It's like a Nike shoebox where you that's pulled out
and there's like foam keeping the.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Square little box. You pull it out and comes out.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Oh fucking cool. Carmelo, Anthony Gary, he's on cannabis brand.
Check that out. I'm about to no wonder.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
They said, Ala Nike.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
It's called Stay Mellow, Stay Mellow, and it's it's some
cool ass packaging.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
He's like got this royal blue color going on.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
I just wish everybody would stop doing indikas unless the
Teva girl. Everybody always drops here.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Oh Jerry, come look on this screen right here.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
You're good walking front of the camera, pretty sick, and
it's like, look, it's like a little Nike shoe box.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
You pull that out Damn, hide the cush from mom.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
You're gonna have to get him.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Let me get these get these ads out of the way.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Jesus, Oh my god, another one.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
The pap up ads are going crazy. Damn. Stay mellow, folks.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
It's been Cannabis Talk one O one, your world's number
one source for everything Cannabis with Blue and Joe Grande, Mikayla,
thank you for coming on the show. It's been an
excellent debut from you, and I look forward to more
content shows with you in the future. Is there anything
you'd like to say before we get on out of here.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Only thing is we had an awesome for twenty as
a team. I hope everyone had an amazing four twenty
as well. And check out the High Hopes on Hulu.
We did a whole junket with them.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
We did High Hopes.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Yeah, keep keeping out for that one. We already we
should have already dropped at the junket. Yes, so just
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Speaker 3 (01:56):
Welcome. Let's let's give a round of a pause when
we do.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And you have some vast experience in the cannabis industry,
and you know you've come in full force to the
to the studio and you've put in some great work,
so tell us and tell the audience a little bit
about you know your story with Mary Jane.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Well, we've been friends for a long long time, very
familiar with each other. I started smoking a little way
too young, I think we all did, but it really
helped me a lot with depression and anxiety. I used
to be really anti social and scared to talk to
people or constantly in my head. And I've definitely bloomed
into a person who now I can't leave a place
(02:44):
without talking to everybody in there.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know, Yeah, you're very confident.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know what I'm saying, and it's very noticeable, and
you know it's in the best way possible.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Of course, Thank you, thank you. It definitely eases the mind.
I think when you're an overthinker or someone who is
like OCD and you're constantly worried about every thing, it
definitely tells you to just hit the pause button, take
things easy, right, and also it helps you slow down
and think before you speak kind of thing. So I
very much. I'm a huge believer in the plant for.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Sure, totally.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And so you know you had your passion for the
plant pretty early, and then when did that become into
a profession for you?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Straight out of high school. I think when I was eighteen,
you know, I think we all started kind of in
the black market. We lived in California. I got my
first trimming job in LA. Started doing like basic graphic
designing for certain companies starting out, so dabbled in like
the digital media marketing. I've always done sales to If
you're in California, you could get a sales job selling
(03:46):
anything from car insurance warranties to college taxes, literally anything.
So that started there and then got into bud tending.
Loved it. Loved being able to actually be a woman
in the industry who was knowledgeable and could actually provide
a result out of what you're taking home.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
We saw a lot of the cute girls in the industry,
which is awesome, but it doesn't really work for someone
like me who's actually using the plant for something. I
need you to know what you're giving me, and I
shouldn't know more than you for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know, you got to be extremely knowledgeable about you know,
something that can change someone's life for better or for worse,
and so you know you need to have ten toes
down with it. And as Mikayla, you do, you have
you know, shown your your green colors to the world here,
and you know it's been it's been very awesome. So
(04:42):
today we're going to be diving into the marijuana moment
April twenty second for twenty THEMS newsletter, and there's some
there's some stories on here, and there's some there's some news,
so let's just dive right into it. The first, you know,
headline on the newsletter was that Joe Biden and Kamala
(05:07):
Harris tweet simultaneously on four to twenty at four to
twenty pm, very planned and in support of cannabis.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So let me let me break down. I got the
tweets right here.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So Joe Biden tweeted, sending people to prison just for
possessing marijuana has upended too many lives and incarcerated people
for conduct that many states no longer prohibit. It is
the time we write these wrongs. And Kamala Harris tweeted,
nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed.
We must continue to change our nation's approach to marijuana
(05:43):
while reforming the justice system so it finally lives up
to its name.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Kayla, thoughts please.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I saw both of those tweets and My thoughts are,
first of all, let's go Brandon. And also I don't know,
I feel like I read this article as well, and
they kind of just like blamed it on the state.
They're like, you know, we're just for the approval. It's
kind of like blaming like that one friend in the
group for getting the f when it was a group project.
You know, I'm just like, yes, well, also, elections are
(06:12):
coming up, so of course.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Like campaigning point.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, you know, of course you're going to bring it
up now you've had all this time, and I just
think things have gotten worse as a whole. But I mean,
we're getting political. I just think it's funny we need
to do it already. Too many people in prison and
jail for cannabis. It's just ridiculous at this point.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Definitely, And.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, obviously it can get done, and it hasn't
because it's been convenient, not too of course, and money, elections,
you know, lobbying, yeah, constituents, the whole gambit. So you know,
we've been waiting patiently, I'd say pretty fucking patiently.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You know, they got people going to jail for this shit.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
We got a whole bunch of people that are trying
to illegal but can't due to a whole bunch of
bureaucratic reasons, and then it just does. It sometimes feels
like a slap to the face when you have then
senators saying, you know, like for example, Earl Bloomin Hour,
a representative out of Oregon, said this year will be
(07:18):
the last four to twenty celebration that cannabis will be
on Schedule one, adding that lawmakers are making progress on
passing a cannabis banking bill soon. It's like how many
times are they going to regurgitate the same phrase to us?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And I get it, I mean think about it every
time we want to get anything changed. This is why
change is so hard, because it is the system is
meant for it to not really work. You're going through
not just like the state, you're going through legality. Like
how many people still if I can get we delivered
to my house and you can't get a job because
of old charges, I think that's kind of ridiculous, right, Yeah,
(07:55):
but again, it goes through so many layers that it's
almost impossible, say you get it approved. Now we're talking banking,
we're talking money transactions, we're talking everyone's involved. Yeah, and
it's going to be legal, you know, so they have
to be able to track that some way, which again
it could be a positive. We've seen a lot of
positive from the legalization of cannabis, but we've also seen
(08:18):
highest tax rates ever, you know, making it impossible new
laws every five seconds for these companies to jump holes
through and hoops through.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
So it's just too much, yep.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And you know, I think that it's it can be
just very discouraging to want to do this the right way.
And you know, we got to be able to encourage
the people who are actually doing this industry right, Like
I can't give you.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I can't give you, you know. I like, there's so.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Many on our podcasts alone. Education is key, exactly exactly.
There are so many this is on our podcast alone
that could give someone faith in this plant. And so
I encourage you to go through our whole catalog of shows,
and you know, you can find the Brian Buckley episode,
the Jaden's Juice episode, You could go all over the
(09:14):
place from all different perspectives on our show.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There's something for everyone. I feel like, because I've come
from a very stigmatized family when it comes to cannabis,
and I've shown them videos. You know, hey, look at this.
This is a mother. You know, she has a young
child who's suffering and needs help. This has helped. There's proof,
there's doctors standing behind it. There are advocates for this,
you know, and they come from all walks of life.
(09:37):
And I think that's why it's so important.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
To educate yourself, definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Destigmatize it, make sure that we're actually pushing this in
the right way. That way, when that conversation comes up
with our governors and with our legislators, like, yes, this
is what we need. Let's stop criminalizing this plant totally.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Get off the list, totally, totally, and you know, all
valid points. You know, I think that you know, we're
obviously headed in the right direction. If you know, it's
coming up to a critical point in our nation with
this election coming up, so hopefully cannabis can seek its
way in.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
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take a quick break. When we come back. We got
some more of this newsletter to dive into. We will
see you when we come back.
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Speaker 2 (11:20):
Into some more of that newsletter, some news you can use, right, Daniel,
So let's let's jump back into the newsletter. You know,
it gets broken down by top things you should know,
and that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
We initially covered with.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and kind of the status
on the federal level.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So I'm gonna scroll down a little bit to.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The federal section and so let's just let's just read
them down, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Former Senate Majority Leader.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Tom das School spoke in support of pending of a
pending federal marijuana reform built out of cannabis happy hour events.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That's lovely.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Senate Banking Committee Chairman Charad Brown reiterated his support for
combining marijuana banking legislation with measures on cryptocurrency and other issues.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That that's pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Representative Nancy Mace tweeted Schumer could have done safe banking
in the one hundred and seventeenth Congress, but he didn't
have the cajones to do it. This is just more
of the same, say one thing, do another d CBS.
Both sides are particularly well versed at it. That that's
a banger's.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That's a quote almost because the second you told me
about this, I said, oh, that's BS.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Totals thank you pushing it, yep or seeing right through it.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Whole lot of talk, yes, not a lot of follow up.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, it's very sad and unfortunate, and you know it,
like I said in the last segment, it's discouraging that,
you know, you see all of these senators and uh
representedatives talking about how much they they would like to
see change. But like I said, it's like a slap
(13:07):
to the face essentially, and they.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Keep saying safe banking banking, right, Like what would that
look like?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Though, Let's let's take a little gander cannabis banking.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Because I know a lot of people already have issues
with that. I mean we've dealt with it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, like from a from a bud tender perspective, Like,
how was it managing you know, cash flow coming into that.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well back in the day, it was awful. I mean
we had safes so cash only yeah, ATMs in the
building to make sure people pull up cash. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And back then, did you have like, uh, like a
CRM at all or like a point point of service
system whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
The closest thing we ever had was like incentive like
sheets where you would just write how like what product
you sell sold or who the person was, how much
you sold, how much your like total was, and then
you would total how much you made in the day. Wow,
and then whoever made like the most amount of sales
would like win a bonus or something that was the
most we ever kept inventory of.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Interesting, So it was all analog and like was it
written was it, uh like, were you getting paid like
hourly there or was it purely off this No.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
We're still paid hourly, yeah definitely. But I mean we
didn't really have like clocking systems really nothing like that.
Sometimes we would even get paid by day. They'd like
give you a cut off of just what you made
that day.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I mean I can't relate to you know, I've never
worked in the dispensary or.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I've worked in like the trap ones, right, and then
also like the legal ones now of course, and it's
night and day, which is why I believe in legalization
and all of that, because it's it does kind of
keep people accountable and it and it moves us more
towards like a corporate standpoint, right where again you're accountable,
you have things logged, you know, things don't fall through
the cracks. You don't get told one thing and then
(15:06):
it doesn't happen. So that's why it's really important, right.
But I mean there are systems now that exist. I mean,
we used to use Trees, which is a cannabis paved
system where you can log everything on there. People can
tip everything, so it got really really nice. But same thing.
I mean, cannabis industry is cannabis industry. I feel like
(15:26):
it's always something something going on. Something. Yeah, whether it's
like giving out too many freebies or doing loops, it's
it's always something.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, So what would you say you'd prefer like the experience?
Did you like the the head trap headshop more than
the legal dispensary?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Some one's had their game and take. I mean at
the Traps, we could smoke inside. I was rolling blunts
all day like no problem, you know, but we could
tab people out. Now, of course, you don't want people
leaving your facility stoned and they're driving a car, and
you know, if they get ability liability, you don't want that, right.
And also we just got to encourage safe use. But
(16:05):
that's the only thing, really big difference. I really do
prefer the legal businesses just because, yeah, too many things
have happened. I don't want to turn my back and
feel like we're going to get raided. You know, that's
not fun.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So sketch like it's awful.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, but like we said, it's fucking hard to get there.
It's so difficult, and it's you know, I didn't know
anything going into it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Of going into this job.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Of like, I was a very recreational, ignorant smoker when
I came into this, and now I've gotten very green pilled,
we'll say. And you know, I've I've just heard one
too many stories now of how just erratic and disorganized
and chaotic it is to have your shit legal. And
(16:54):
you know, they've now divvied up. You have to get
all the licenses for specific kinds of manufacturing.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And you know just that if you want.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
A lounge, you got to get a liquor license. You
got to have that's separate in a whole o their address.
You need to have multiple addresses just to have like
a smoking lounge and food in the same area like that,
you know what I mean, it is absolutely impossible. But
in the long run, and this is why I also
encourage consumers to actually, you know, spend that penny. I know,
(17:24):
I know it's hard, especially living in California, how much
we pay rent and everything. I know, it's hard to
go and support like an actual shop and have your
favorite shop.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And yeah, because you could go somewhere else and not
pay tax and support you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Know, the black market is continuously outdoing you know, the
legal shops and brands, and it sucks because these people
are putting their heart and soul and everything they have
into these companies just to even give you the product
to your table, you know, but I mean so much
comes from it you're not getting. I've definitely been told
by managers at chop shops sell that weed. I don't
(17:57):
care if it has mold, Like we're talking your smoke
mold into your lungs. That's absolutely horrible, Like that should
never happen. Yeah, you know, practice if we're talking about
your health and and if you're i know, stoners that
smoke all day, you know, every day of the week.
You know, you can't be putting something like that into
your body so consistently and then expect not expect like
(18:19):
bad results. So get your tested products, make sure you
actually do the research of like who their licensing company is,
who their creditors are, who's testing their flower, make sure
that they're not you know, making a little secret decisions
in the background.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
But because all of that matters, it really doesnt matter.
You can get a legal brand and they're just not
really being truthful.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Definitely too Definitely it's and like don't feel intimidated to
like when you get to a dispensary to like ask questions.
Like ever since I started to understand what questions I
needed to ask, I started asking them at dispensaries. And
it's helped out with you know, the quality of stuff
that I'm putting into my body, and you know, most
(19:04):
nine times out of ten, the bud tender you know,
will be able to answer your questions.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
A little bud tender secret though. This is why I encourage, like,
if you have your own favorite dispensary that you go
to like every week, they have the best deals or
whatever it is they hook you up, do the research
on the brands that they have there on your own
as well. Yeah, because sometimes bud tenders are incentivized by
these brands to push the best best flower and they
don't even smoke it. I guarantee you that's a real
(19:30):
thing too. Or or they're really just talking out there
button they don't really know and they just want to
make the sale and sound good to you. You know,
they don't want to look a little dumb. Yeah yeah, yah,
that flowers awesome. And you know they're this tests and
the other me personally as a bud tender. I got
into the space because I made sure to do that
research on my own so that you didn't have to.
But we can't guarantee that every bud tender is doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, definitely. So it's.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You know, if you're going to take a point from this,
do your research. You know, Google, it's a Google keyword
search away, you know, to go and find what you
need to find. Uh, you know, figure out who's testing
the product that you're putting in your body, where it's
being processed. You know, check check your local regulations, you
(20:16):
know everything, because you know, you never know, you know,
whether it's that specific batch was grown in soil with
metal or you know, you don't know if that batch
was sprayed with pesticides. You know, and you know there's
ways to tell. For example, your ass should be burning
white in your bowl or in your joint, not all
the way black, but anyway.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
There's ways to check.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Color of concentrates. That's so easy. I always tell people,
you know, I think some people are scared of like
darker concentrates. It really depends. Some rosin can be very greeny,
some can be very like brownish orangey. It just depends.
It also depends on the strain all that kind of stuff.
But if you find that canvas consultant or whatever who
who is knowledgeable and you can just tell like they're
(21:00):
constantly doing facts at you lean into those, those are
the ones. Because nowadays they're some crazy bud tenders. They're
like so smart and like know everything. I'm just like, yeah, dude,
you should write a book.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, find the passionate ones.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Like we just had Master Mentors Live and there were
several great UH speakers that came out and I learned
a lot myself. And I was, you know, I was
operating the boards with Daniel back there, and you know,
I was still I was still listening. And you know,
there's some very very knowledgeable people out there. And when
you go and put your faith into someone that is
(21:34):
focused on the consumer themselves, that's that's when you know
you're going to have a great experience and you don't
have to stress out and you can like continue to
go and get that brand. And like from what I've
seen in the cannabis industry of when people coming in here,
like they're very receptive to people that respond well to
their products. Like so many people be like, yeah, like
(21:55):
give me like give me your address, I'll hook you up
with a whole bunch shit.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Da da da dad. You know what I'm saying, Like
they'll they put so much into it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and it means a lot that like, and I
feel with cannabis especially, there are a lot of people
who are that are passionate about the plant, that like it.
They can they genuinely see it as they're changing someone's
life for the better, and like they take that, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I would say.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
There's like two to three different types of like users. Right,
There's the one who like depends on it for medicinal reasons,
like they're buying large batches. If you give them the
wrong product, they're coming back upset because they're in pain
or can't sleep type of thing. Then there's your regular
everyday consumer who's just smoking weed every day. You're you're
(22:37):
cheech and chongs, you're you know, yep. They are really
not well versed. They don't care. They give me whatever,
whatever's the cheapest, whatever is the coolest. I like that packaging.
I don't even care what's it is.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You can go blue in the face trying to explain
like the difference of this this and the other I
don't care, give me, give me my flower, what has
a deal exactly? You know. And then there's like the
othernsumer who's like the connoisseur, right, the cannabis connoisseur, the
one who's like actually taking their time flavor profiles, doing
their research, really into the product, getting to know the
(23:12):
actual brands, the owners, why they do what they do.
And I think like all of those people are what
makes this community right, and those are the people that
need these legalizations, that need these things to move forwards,
that their experience is a lot better throughout right, it
needs to get easier for that consumer. It needs to
get easier for the elderly who are coming in and
(23:34):
have no idea what to purchase exactly, or the person
who doesn't care and just gets all the information quick
and then they can make their decision, or the connoisseur
who wants to know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Definitely, definitely, And like, ultimately, I think, you know, this
progression that we've seen where different demographics are getting hit
has been obviously really good for the industry. And I
think just from a human syche logical standpoint, you know,
people relate better when it's they see someone experiencing something
(24:08):
that's like it's close to them, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if if there's a seven year old lady who sees
a video of another seven year old lady going into
a dispenser, they're gonna be a lot more open to
being like, oh, like my, like my people are you know,
going and doing that like that It's okay, it's acceptable,
and like that's the whole.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Thing, is like the reason why this is important?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, totally, and like it'll it can help break that
you know, social construct, that preconceived notion that you know,
this is just for the thugs and the gangbangers.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I would love my elderly clients. They were my favorites because, hey,
they buy the most because they really need it, and
you can really guide them. You know. Also, there's so
many companies nowadays that make it so easy. It's almost
like having your medicine cabinet. They're not you know, you
can give them a topical, you can give them a tincture,
a patch. They have patches nowadays, slap it on, It
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lasts forty eight hours and you don't even have to
worry about it. They don't even think about it, you know, totally.
And that's what I always tell my older customers. I'm like,
tell your friends, tell people that you know have your
same problems, because I know you know multiple and bring
them in here. This experience is meant to be like
a storefront. We come out to you, you come up
to us, whatever it is, You tell us what you need,
and we should be able to guide you to what works.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Definitely, you know, definitely, and we're we're on our way there.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You know, there's definitely a few brands that have started
to tap into that market, Like off the top of
my head, I know Papa and Barkley, like some great
brands that you know are opening up to that demographic.
And that's something that we like to see because this
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the ship can help anyone at any age group.
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Speaker 2 (27:28):
So they have a little state state section and they
just reel off whole bunch of news out of each
of the states.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So you down to go through this.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yep, all right, we're gonna start in New York. I'm
sorry for butchering all your names. Representatives of our great nation.
Kathy Hoochel Hokal, one of the two, announced new plans
to shut down unlicensed marijuana businesses under provisions included in
budget legislation. A senator touted various quote wins for cannabis
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in the budget deal, while other lawmakers cited the lack
of relief funds for farmers. That's that's a little interesting
one that you know they're actively you know they're going down,
they're going after the unlicensed businesses. I would like to
have seen that they would want to help unlicensed businesses.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You know, it's budget though, that's what they're saying. It's budget,
not enough budget, so cutting it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
They're not giving us enough money. We don't need to
help you.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That's brutal.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
And it's funny because they say various wins for cannabis
in the budget deal, as if, like, I don't know
if that means provisions included in budget legislations plans to
shut down unlicensed marijuana businesses under provisions included in budget legislation.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Like, does that mean that they're I think that's the
win for them, is that they're getting rid of that
budget by shutting these down. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, they're saving money.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah. I feel like farmers always get the hit too.
We've had a couple of farmers on here who with
really successful like flower brands, and man, they're hurting. They're hurting.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I know. It's every time I'd say, you know,
most times at a farmer talks about it's you know,
they're struggling to break even with their grow, which it
makes sense, how much probably goes into it growth so much. Yeah,
and then you know, coupled with the oversaturation of the
market right now, you know, shit isn't selling off the
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shelves too much at the moment.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Right making it too expensive. Guys, I'm telling you, yep.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yep, it's getting out of hand. The bubble's got a burst.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Illinois Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker, how did the economic impact
of the state's marijuana legalization law while campaigning for President
Joe Biden's re election, Yeah, the economic impact and being
legalized has been good. But I personally bought whed in
Illinois in the last year, and that ship was expend really,
(30:01):
so I bought a pen, a three hundred milligram pen, right,
so not even third Yes, it is like still, I
mean it's a thousand milligrams, right, or a total out
of one gram. So I got three hundred and whatever
milligrams right. This ship sticker price was like twenty two bucks.
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I was like, still, that's a lot for that, but whatever,
far from home, I'll buy it. And then sales taxes
was like forty two percent, and so then my total
was above forty bucks. And uh for one thing, guys,
one fucking pen that was not even a half a gram. Yeah, Like,
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come on, Illinois, figure that shit out please, that's annoying.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I'm like, did Jesus press them press this himself?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Like like this shit better get me? So steez, it's
not even fun, that's it?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I mean I think the brand was Select.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Oh okay, yeah, Selection is used to be in California.
They actually pulled out of California. Oh yeah, interesting, Yeah,
they didn't fuck with it.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Let's go to Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oklahoma's attorney General cheered cheered the House's passage of a
bill that will allow police to arrest and incarcerate undocumented immigrants,
which he said will assist his efforts to eliminate Oklahoma's
numerous illegal marijuana grows, often run by foreign nationals. That
is quite the statement, hitting.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Two birds with one stone on that one.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, men like efficiency, you know there's that's that's pretty
uh playing into the point. I mean, I know Oklahoma
has a decent cannabis market as it is, right, so.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
You know it's uh My thing is is it says
that they just passed a bill that will allow police
to arrest and incarcerate undocumented immigrants. Why was that not
a thing before? Isn't that like everywhere? Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I would assume so at the federal level, that's crazy
that will love police to arrest in car, straight and dog.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Maybe maybe had to go through for marijuana, like.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I don't like, I don't know, I'm spitballing here. Maybe
it went through like like border control or like ice
or whatever. It was okay, But and now maybe they
have like like the actual police like local power to
be able like within their jurisdiction to be able to
like handle that and process that probably, so I would
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assume that's the case. Oregon regulators approved rules on marijuana
batch tagging and published a related informational bulletin. Let's check
out this little bulletin real quick. It's a whole PDF
file rules on batch tagging, so the background is streamlined.
Plant tagging and reduce plastic waste with Organ's new batchtagging
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option available for cannabis plants starting June seventeenth, twenty twenty four.
This date allows producers to tag groups of plants with
a single tag instead of individually tagging each plant. It's
gonna save a lot of time and money right there.
The rules regarding this change can be found at OAR
and this link, and also call at eight four fives
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zero two five seven five to zero.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I feel like Organs are always ahead of the game.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, they're very forward thinking in terms of well, say,
I'll say cannabis because that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You know, they're you know, always pushing the culture with it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I always had friends I went up to school in
Oregon and they always got like an insane amount of
quality weed for such a cheap price. Yep.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I know, my mother in law sister. She lives in
organ and always when I was buntending, she would always
come visit me and she'd be like, dude, I can
get so much more an organ for this. Like I
would be like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, for real, It's like it's it's weird too, like
I don't know where the where the capital of cannabis
in the world.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And then you know, I'm not surprised though they would
do us like this and look, California's next, look at.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That, California's next. Let's check it out. So let me
let me get back to this. Uh backed me out.
California regulators announced a recall of marijuana products due to
the presence of aspergillis aspergillis and because of an inaccurate
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labeling reporting more THHC than the product contains.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Soccer.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, I mean they know the general mark is going
off THHC percentage and they're taking advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Stop doing that.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
There's nothing like forg You must be like reaching new heights.
I don't know, but people need to get that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Stop if you see it.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I don't know. The game is going to be changing.
I can feel it. I know it's going to be changing.
We hear it with these testers. You know it's something
needs to change. It's just again, how much time takes
it takes for these changes to happen?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, like how long is it going to be until
it's like not an excuse anymore to like fucking cut
corners and and you know, malpractice, bad ethics. I'm not
accusing anyone, however, fucking do it right, yeah, by the consumer.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I'm just happy though that I've heard this conversation come
up a lot more as of late, talking about like
THHG shouldn't be that high. This isn't a thing, like
these people are lying to you. Trust that. And then
there's the other side of our market where it's like, no, dude,
we have the highest testing TD, get it right here,
get it today, like get.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
The most fucked up, Like you're not getting high enough
if it's not fucking mega blasted labeled with.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
THC like and none of us want to hear a
t break, right, we don't want to hear those words.
But it's it's real, like I do it. I definitely, Well,
we'll make sure like Okay, today's an air and day,
let's not touch it for today because let's just get
stuff done. Not that it keeps me from getting stuff done,
but you just.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Need like a day or two, I think here and
there totally, Like as in everything food, literally you could
do it with water, like you know, if you use
too much of it, use it irresponsibly, then you know,
in anything in life, then it could go badly. So
you know, obviously you have to use what's right for
you in moderation, and you know, not abuse this beautiful
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plant because I have, you know, and it takes one
to know one, like.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I've abused it.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, I've abused it, for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I've abused that.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I've said that I'm open about it and that, like
you know, everyone everyone has their own relationship with the plant.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You're also just ruining the experience for yourself, I think.
And then this is coming from someone who's a dabber.
I'm a big like user. You know, you're not supposed
to be dabbing as much as I do. You know,
I've heard that way often, but it's a thing I
think as we get older, you know, we've got to
kind of take it easy because then you're just ruining
the experience. You really are. Next time you want to
hit something and you want to actually test something, it's
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not going to work as well for you as it
is for someone else. And then you're just going to
constantly try and reach that new high over and over
and over again, and you're just not going to get there.
Give yourself a little break. I'll promise you. The next
time you take a hit, you're gonna be so faded.
You're gonna be like, oh.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
My god, totally.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
And it's obviously like if you can get past the
point of like chasing the high and then like using it,
like being aware of your body and like knowing when to.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Use it, it becomes like a whole different a whole
different ballgames.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
A good piece of advice someone gave me. I think
it was another consultant that told me this. It was,
if you don't want to take a t break, use
lower THD percentages, like actually use a not as like
potent product. And if you use that, the next time
you get something that's like really really good, you're gonna
be like, okay, yeah, I'll see this difference. That's what
I don't want to do. You don't want to can
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stop smoking completely, get some of that lighter stuff and
take it easy on that. Don't be hitting the hundred
millis every other.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Day, you know, totally.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And like also, you know, which we were kind of
talking about the THC labeling can be deceptive where you know,
if you're listening to this show and you're just getting
into cannabis, you know, find ask about you know, brands,
look up brands that are doing well, that are tested well,
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and it doesn't matter the percentage. It's like, as long
as it's grown properly, it's still gonna get you faded.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, and I wouldn't also like worry too much about
like how popular they are either, because with any company,
the larger you get, the harder it is to control
the quality. Right. That's not always the case, but yeah,
it really just depends. And sometimes these smaller brands are
the ones who really are like the heavy hitters. It
might not look like it. You might not have enough
money to give you that amazing like packaging, it might
(38:57):
be very simple, but somehow those brands are honestly the
totally hit.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
For me totally.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Like then they literally just can't scale because the industry's
fucking fun, but.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
They're putting all their money, They're putting all that money
into like what matters right, like your grow and your
quality versus the shebang boodle you know of the outside. Yes,
don't judge a book by its cover.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Never, don't do that. Fucking easy, easy one. So let's
let's go over a little bit more of this UH newsletter.
Missouri regulators issued a health advisory about risks associated with
hemp derived intoxicating cannabinoids. That's scary, yep, hemp, hemp too, hemp,
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which I don't know a whole lot about growing hemp.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Well, I've had buddies who travel right and like tours
or whatever it is, and my husband who just recently
went on a tour, and he told me he had
seen some hemp products, like obviously every where these different
states have them heavily versus like us, you know, we
have TCH and CBD available to anywhere. He was saying,
some of the stuff is scary though, because you would
(40:11):
think it looks like TCH and like you're just getting
like like stizzy packs that are hemp derived, and like
in a smoke shop and you wouldn't even know any
Joe Schmo would walk in there thinking they're getting like
a legit thing, you know. And and I mean again,
those those areas too. They they're pretty much know what
what they can and can't get, right, Like you know
(40:33):
where to go to get what, but I I don't know.
I don't like hemp stuff. I've gotten a lot of
hemp stuff. It's really nasty to me. But I think
that's also just because we're used to, like all the
glitz and glam out here in Beautiful Flower. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, we're spoiled as hell out here.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, spoiled but not.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, it's a weird position to be in. Like like
some days, you know, I'm like going to get weed
or whatever, and I'm just like, damn, I fucking this
shit sucks, like fuck so expensive. And then some days
I'm like damn, like I have like forty dispensaries to
pick from. Holy shit, Like I can just fucking go
here and pick up all my shit.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
I'm not even gonna lie. I don't really even go
to dispensaries that much anymore. Yeah, no, I mean at
this point, like you become friends with the growers and stuff,
of course you could get it from that, but yeah,
not everybody has that luxury. But yeah, no, I'm very
careful with like what I get. Like I'm friends with
like people who washed for these companies and things like that.
So that's where I get the benefit. But if not,
(41:34):
I wouldn't be touching it. And and same thing even
going into a dispensary now with a friend or anything,
like oh, let's get this joint, let's get the other own,
and I'm like, I don't do diamonds. I don't do
any of that filler stuff. I just I just want
like good clean products.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's so nice, like finding your preference in cannabis too,
and you just know what to look for is locked in,
or like you know what to ask for whatever. It
used to be very overwhelming going into dispensary and like
seeing all these brands and not knowing what questions to
ask for a lot of.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
People, it still is totally especially now some of these
stores here in California literally looks like museums or like
art shows. So yeah, yeah, it's definitely a lot. Like
I walked into Planet thirteen for the first time, and
I was like, I'm someone who knows this industry and
has been around, right, And there were some brands I
wasn't aware of. It was also just a lot. It
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was a lot. I was just like overwhelmed. I was like,
this is where do I even start.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, there's you know product everywhere, sweat and bright lights.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
You know, no phones allowed, you know, scan your ideas.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Not like a real rule anymore. Really, these shops want
you to film their their stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well yeah, now that it's a you know marketoums.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, although I have been checked a couple of times,
like really recently or not not crazy recently, but they'll
just be like, yeah, no phones in here. But the
industry's changed, at least in California, Like people's OC Like
that's like an Apple store.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Oh yeah, well I used to work at the Jade
Room in OC and oh they literally have like mirrors
for you to take videos of and stuff like they
like take a selfie here, and it's like little.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Oh yeah, they have like the dimes set up in
a chair like they're like a fat Game of Thrones
looking chair at the dying shit.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, definitely. I mean it's pretty cool come a long way.
Although it's.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Experience, yeah, which those I can appreciate because you're not
just coming in to shop and go home, like you
can bring your friends there. You know. It's like a
whoa you have out of state friends. You bring them there.
That's it. You're the cool kid, you know. Check out
Bobby from California live in the Big Life.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, it's like a kid at a candy shop.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, no, seriously, that's what I used to always tell them.
I was like, this is like the adult candy shop
for us.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
It totally is.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
We're going to do a couple more of these little
tickers news tickers on marijuana moment. We're gonna stop internationally
real quick. Belgium's federal parliament approved an informational report on
cannabis and drug policies. It's very vague, but I like
the direction Belgium. That's very good of you. Your neighbor
(44:12):
is Netherlands. You have Amsterdam right next to you. Figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Jump on the train. It's leaving.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
So easy you could do. You could do your orange
light districts or something. Just copy it real quick, and
then please don't do that.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
It's all just.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Make it a chocolate Wonderland Belgium.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, Belgium, yeah, exactly, chocolate yeah, yeah, yeah, they're going
to be like the capital of the chocolate edibles. Yes.
The Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration issued to notice about questionable
medicinal cannabis products. That's also very vague. Let's see if
(44:55):
this links me anywhere. I want to find out what
the hell that means. All medicinal cannabis products applied to
Australian patients must meet quality standards.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
The Therapeutic Goods Administration the TGA, is aware of recent
media reports regarding questionable medicinal cannabis products being supplied in Australia.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
The TGA would like to confirm this.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
What is happening in this industry that everything is so questionable? Yeah,
it's like we're at the what happened to grow it?
You know, show it and send it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Like yeah, it like we're we're like on like a spectrum,
but it's like a circle and it just keeps like
it went. It went progressive and now it's just getting
harder to like fit in the legal Yes, it's this
is cooked, like all of it.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
That's like, guys, can we get a system and follow it?
Me here all the time?
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Please, you know, make everyone's life easier, make it all easy.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
No more questioning things. Let's get the answers.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
This is a good one.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
The uh you see the ease workers, they unionized and
they ratified their first statewide through year contract.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah. Round of applause.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Hot's off to all the people who love unions and
understand the importance of them, especially in this space.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
That shit's hard to do.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah for real, how long did you guys stand outside
for us? When I want to know? Seriously, somebody pick
it fence like signs? Did you guys bring I know?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, I mean we could spend a whole other show
talking about that specific topic, so we'll save that for
another one. All right, last fun one I want to
I want to touch on before we get on out
of here. Former basketball player Carmelo Anthony is launching his
own cannabis brand, Hoodie Mellow. It better be fucking named that.
Are you shitting me? Hoodie Mellow or that's the strain name?
(47:00):
Uh oh, it's called Stay Mellow. That's his that's his
brand name, and it's stylized with the seven like his
number instead of an L and mellow. It is the
first brand launch under the umbrella of new cannabis focused
agency called Grand National, built with Load Cannabis CEO and
(47:23):
founder Jesse Horton and Chief creative director Brandon Drew Jordan
Pierce aka BED. The agency will focus on brand creation, expansion,
strategy and marketing efforts. What can consumer What can ad
consumer expect? Perhaps an esthetic a la Nike, where Pierce
was once a creative ad writer. Okay, I mean shout
(47:44):
out to Mellow.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I love that guy. Uh, that dude's one of the goats.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Does this thing come like a shoe box kind of thing?
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, let me see that?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
It's like a Nike shoebox where you that's pulled out
and there's like foam keeping the.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Square little box. You pull it out and comes out.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Oh fucking cool. Carmelo, Anthony Gary, he's on cannabis brand.
Check that out. I'm about to no wonder.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
They said, Ala Nike.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
It's called Stay Mellow, Stay Mellow, and it's it's some
cool ass packaging.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
He's like got this royal blue color going on.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
I just wish everybody would stop doing indikas unless the
Teva girl. Everybody always drops here.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Oh Jerry, come look on this screen right here.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
You're good walking front of the camera, pretty sick, and
it's like, look, it's like a little Nike shoe box.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
You pull that out Damn, hide the cush from mom.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
You're gonna have to get him.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Let me get these get these ads out of the way.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Jesus, Oh my god, another one.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
The pap up ads are going crazy. Damn. Stay mellow, folks.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
It's been Cannabis Talk one O one, your world's number
one source for everything Cannabis with Blue and Joe Grande, Mikayla,
thank you for coming on the show. It's been an
excellent debut from you, and I look forward to more
content shows with you in the future. Is there anything
you'd like to say before we get on out of here.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Only thing is we had an awesome for twenty as
a team. I hope everyone had an amazing four twenty
as well. And check out the High Hopes on Hulu.
We did a whole junket with them.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
We did High Hopes.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Yeah, keep keeping out for that one. We already we
should have already dropped at the junket. Yes, so just
check that out. We did awesome.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
We did the whole cast.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
We got to meet the cast this weekend, and the
show with the Dirty Heads is awesome.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
It's number one on Hulu right now, Number one on Hulu.
I would be going support your stoners. This is what's
going to keep breaking that those barriers, and let's get
in their faces about this totally.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
I was just on Hulu and I saw that, like
right on the front page. Bam, High Hopes right there.
You can't miss it.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's in front of Shogun, It's in front of whatever
the hell else you're watching. Check out High Hopes. It's
going to show a unique perspective on the industry and talks.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
About but something Yeah, reality showing, but yes.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yeah, that's going to be super sick. Check it out.
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