Episode 395 w/ Ludacris

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
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Speaker 4 (00:44):
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O R E. What up is d J e f N.
And it's gonna take me crazy? You were all drinking
champis champion.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I will make something.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
And when I tell you, when me and e f
N starts this show, we wanted to uh in the
you are peers. We want to interview fellow legends, fellow icons.
When I tell you, I've seen this man come up
in the game. You know, from the beginning to where
he's at now. He is always his team has been

(01:15):
tight like virgin pussy. But nothing can break them. Nothing
could break them. I sweet of God from the very
day ones that I've seen him come in the game.
He's with the same exact people. When you speak about loyalty,
they picture comes up. We speak about this guy as
a character, this guy as a MC, this guy as
an actor, this guy has to producer. This guy's everything.

(01:37):
He's a renaissance man. He's a fellow virgo. I believe
he's married to like me, and we love hard and
we go on the mouth. These people's like ya, y'all
got the best vacation pictures ever. But this guy is
as an icon, He's a legend. He's a lyrical he
could go lyrically. We went through his pscography and we
realize that he can go lyrically with any body. Anybody

(02:02):
toe to toe and he might and he might put
on the.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Big a force one. We didn't want to go toe
to toe. He is the man, he is my friend.
He is a.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Legend of icon, a motherfucking tycoon. In case you don't
know what we're talking about, were talking about the one
and only impeccable Chris.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Love of love and I have you know, Luda.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
I just want you to know. I have been drinking
twenty days.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I've been in the.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Gym every day, trying to get my shit on.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
But when we locked you in, I said, breaking my flask. Yeah. Look,
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Man. I am really really really proud of you because
in certain ways, I kind of like feel like we
traded careers, like kind of like like you kind of
like started out like kind of like media even though
you have music, wait before that, right, and then you
transition as supposed to be where it's like kind of
like an artist, and now I'm having fun doing the media.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
But a lot of people that's where.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
They start your career, right, they start at the radio station.
But a lot of people don't know you have records
and you had things way before that.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Is that true? Okay, put it on.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I started rapping when I was nine years old. Yeah,
one hundred percent. My first record was called or Not Record.
My first song was called I'm Cool, I'm bad. I
might be ten, Wow, but I can't survive without my girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I show you nine and I was nine, So you
know I had to put the expects.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
At nine years old. He was you're ready to go.
I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. Limits, limits, limits,
So I had you're gonna get fucked up, you know,
drinking twenty day, Yes, twenty days. You about to get
fuck caving about these I'm sorry you should, but.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
No, Like like I said, I started rapping when I
was nine.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Went through a good ten ten twelve years of doing
so many different you know, crazy contracts and being in
groups and going in and out of.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Just developing my style.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
And so you know when I got to the radio station,
like you say, this was when I was eighteen years old.
And so this is right when wrap radio stations were
kind of card and where twenty four hours you playing
nothing but rap music.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Because radio college read Mercer Radio.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
So it's now one oh seven point nine in Atlanta.
At the time it was called Hot ninety seven point five.
And so at this time I literally got a job
up there as an intern, and so I was just
trying to get put on. So it was strategic because
I was like, you got all these producers, you got
all these artists coming through to a radio station each
and every fucking day.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
So I'm gonna go up here and.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Make these people think that I want a job at
this radio station.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
But the real hustle is that.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Whoever come up here I'm about to give with my music.
I'm about to rap form and it's going to work.
And now, keep in mind, it took i'd say about
a good three or four years before it actually you know,
the plan worked, you meaning you at the radio station
three or four years being there before the whole Ludacris
came into play because I was there as an air personality.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I was hosting the clubs.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I was a local celebrity way before commercially successful as Ludacris.
But yeah, that's how it all started. Man, at that
radio station Atlanta, George.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
I'm gonna be honest, man, and I don't think I've
ever said this, and you're gonna be You're gonna be happy.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
You're gonna happy. Were about to get some shit. I'm
gonna be honest, bro.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
It was at one point, if you had a number
one record in New York, you had a number one
record around the world. And I'm proud to kind of say,
not kind of, I'm proud to say that right now,
if you have a number one record in Atlanta, y'all, man.
But it's true though it's been like that for a while.
By the way, my New York is recognizing it right now.

(05:32):
I'm just being honest because we didn't want to let
it go.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
But I see it now, like if you.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
It brings me to change, right because I remember I
remember to change being down with you guys. And his
name wasn't too changed. It was Titty Bwockett's. My first
drinking in twenty days got Damini's Gold. But I remember
I remember him being known in like just that section,
like and it's just like I I remember, I remember,

(06:01):
I'm sorry, I'm all over the place, but I remember
me speaking with bum Bee and me almost saying to
them like, damn, y'all could actually go gold and just Texas,
like just Texas. And I remember saying that about Atlanta because.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Y'all had local heroes, like I'm sorry, I'm all over
the place. But I remember.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
About to Troy, and I remember how huge pastor Troy was.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Right was I remember after meeting he was and I
was like.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
We ran it looking at me like what the fuck
is you talking about?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Man?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
And I would go just to New Orleans and I'd
be like, we read it and people didn't know.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's when I knew Atlanta had the chance.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
To kind of like dominate the whole business because y'all
had stars. That was just in Atlanta, And so how
how was that seeing that because it was almost like,
I don't want to say the back of the bus,
like it was like kind of like y'all went from
there to and I felt like, I'm sorry, I felt
like it's Andre three thousand that jigs the world.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I don't say that the world. He told us, I've
got something to say. Oh got you?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Because again, I'm sorry, I'm so all over the place.
But I remember coming to Atlanta. Man, stop apologizing. I
remember going to Atlanta. But I remember going to Atlanta
as a New York artist and New York was running.
I remember saying it it was Atlanta in the house,
and they're not saying nothing to me saying it was
Brooklyn in the house, and it would just it were

(07:35):
erupt and I knew these people weren't from Brooklyn, but
they didn't have no identity back then. But like, that's
that's my story. But how does it feel from seeing
like your city go from to where it's at now?

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Absolutely fucking amazing. I feel like we've had the game
in a choke hold for.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Quite some time.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Like you say, I mean, you know, we can we
get we get debate about how long it's been, but
just it's it amazes me since I started it because
I come from the like you said, the goodie mobs
and the outcast. They paved the way from me. So
after all this time, in retrospect, you know, seeing what
has happened over all that time and just Atlanta artists
working together and it's just the camaraderie and everybody just

(08:13):
becoming a powerhouse. When when you do these records together
and you see that they continue to climb these charts
all this time later, Man, it feels fucking amazing, amazing,
and it's like I don't feel like it's going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's what it always seemed like.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
It might be different being from the city, but from
the outside looking in, it looked like Atlanta always had
it together.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Like the artist does work together.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
It didn't matter if they didn't sound the same, different
kind of genres within the genre, they all worked together.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
They all were ripping for the city, southern hospitality, as
we say.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
And that's why I had a hate up moment at
one point that was like I was kind of glad
when you and T I was beefing for like two weeks,
because two weeks at least the human you know what
I mean, Like the South didn't seem human at one point.
It seems like all of y'all beats, if you has
stripes or whatever, y'all kept it in between each other

(09:05):
and New York.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
We couldn't do that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
It was it was outer and you know what I'm saying,
like we didn't see it though, like you didn't see
a lot of I say with.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I didn't see like the Atlanta on Atlanta. That's a
good thing.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Then if you're saying, from your perspective you didn't see
it like that, then that's good.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
So make.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
We like to keep the reputation of keeping it, you know, together,
togetherness in that Southern hospitality for sure.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
So what actually happened with you and t I at
that time?

Speaker 5 (09:36):
It was from my perspective, it was always a little subliminals,
and I just heard subliminals. And I'm extremely competitive, so
I'm always with the subliminals. So when you know when
he was jab, I was just jab right back in records.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Did this happened to the like karate class.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Absolutely not, But no, just this competition, man. And you
know it's crazy because again in retrospect, we were actually
on a flight together, on a plane we went to
George Floyd's funeral services together. God bless Will Packer put
a bunch of people together on this plane and so
we literally were on there talking for two three hours

(10:15):
of everything, the whole history. And you know, I just
told him to his faces, like, brother, I never start.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Any fucking thing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
I come from a world where I mind my own
fucking business.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
This is what Ludacris does.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
I hear people talk stuff, and people take jabs, and
people take shots, and then you know, I decide whether
or not I want to send the shots back. But
at the end of the day, I just I don't
start shit. I finished it.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's what I do.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
So we on this plane, man, talking about the history
of all the shit that we've been through, like and
it's like we sat back and laughed at the end
of that shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And that's what.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Maturity and that's what stroke is all about. But we
gave the people what they wanted for a certain amount
of time, and that's what hip hop is. It starts
from competition, and we just gonna get We're gonna give
you that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
So we're going through your discography, bro, the discogo. Yeah,
we're going through it.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I ain't got a lot of you.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
We got some records here. We know we've seen you
do versus with Nelly. Yeah, but y'all wasn't in the
same room. Correct, we were not.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
I think we were the first rappers to do versus,
if I'm not mistaken. And this was at a time
where the everybody was still at home, like but nobody
was leaving this quarantine. So this is before people got
on the stages and was doing the whole performance and
ship Niggas.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Was at the crib. I'm gonna be honest with you.
I looked at your face when you walked up, and
I knew you was gonna win, just like you had
the eye the fucking I don't know what you was
doing push ups before that.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I looked at you.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I was like, no, you know how, you know how
you're in the zone like I looked. Was it because
you was bored?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Let me tell yourself, you're just starting this interview. That's
gonna be a common theme to competitive yess yeah, I
love competition. It's what we do this ship for.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
So that's what you saw on my face, like subdleness,
just ready to fucking go.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's go, because you know what you look like.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
You look like the fighter, right that's about to fight
his brother that don't want to hurt his brother's That's
what any opponent.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
By the way, Okay, that's why I say I don't
start ship. I finished it. That's that's the other theme
of this interview. Well, go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt you,
my brother.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
No, no, no, I was so because I was looking
and I.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Know you personally and I know Nelly personally, right, so
I know both of you brothers, and I'm looking and
i'm you know, as everyone else, we all bored in
the crib and I'm just like this. But I knew
how I seen your face. I knew how serious you
took it. And I seen Nellie, that's my that's my
brother too.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Let me just big him up. But I seen him.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
I seen him kind of like you know, not I
don't want to say not taking this serious, but just
like you know, I'm here and I phone with your face.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
You have to face on your guy right now.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
You you were zone then you were looking at your
DJ and I just knew it. And is that that
goes back to the competition thing. It does not matter, bro.
I love this shit.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Bro. I live for this shit.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
I apologize for movies getting in the way of the
music people, but goddamn it, I'm coming.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I love this shit. I just love it.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
You know what I'm saying. I made a living off
of it. My kids is straight off of it. My
whole team, we feed a lot of people, and that's
why we take it so serious.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I just love it. I love it. That's that face, man,
that's that game face.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
And how happy are you that jar Ru turned down
that job?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Man?

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I didn't believe it at first when I heard that rumor,
And yeah, what is the rumor? Tell us what is
your party you heard? I don't want to speak for job,
but it was definitely something in the realm of John
Singleton went to him first for that role in Too Fast,
Too Furious because he was in the first Fast and
Furious and for whatever reason, that deal didn't work out.

(13:53):
So I don't know the specifics, and so that deal
not working out has had ludicris in two six seven
eight nine ten. Let me take a sip of my
motherfucker god, hey man sit two five six seven eight
nine ten.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And still fucking don't another rumor that I heard. Tell
me if this is true or not.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
The contractually doing the movies, you weren't allowed to put
out music.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Contractually, I wasn't. I wasn't able to ride my motorcycles.
They got that ship in the contract. While we're shooting,
you cannot ride. I'm a motorcycle junkie. I'm an adrenaline junkie.
By the way, we'll get onto that. But no, nowhere
did they say we couldn't put out here. I actually
put out I want to say, a small project on
the release of one of the movies or some shit
like that. But now I'm just saying it does take
a lot of time. And I'm the type of person

(14:43):
that I'm gonna put one hundred percent into whatever the
fuck I'm doing at the time. So I'm not the
nigga that's gonna be half assing an album in music
and shooting a role in a movie at the same time.
So it's like my management and my team, they love
me for that, but they always hate they hate me
for that shit. At the same time, I'm just full
throttle with it. So that was that your first acting gig.

(15:03):
My first acting gig was was Crash. That ship that
oneed God damn Academy award was right, No, no, no, no,
don Cheita, don Cheeto was in there, Sandra Bullock, Brendan Fraser,
my brother, Lawrence Tate was in there.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Terrence, it was in that. Yeah, that ship won won
the Academy Award.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
I love how people just start dropping names, but in
a good movie.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I've never been in a good movie. I got dropped
because the classic playing you were in a class. Yeah,
but I don't know the names water.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
But tell them about your zombie movie.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
But so that you got, you gotta say. You got
to say that the classic that you come on Okay later,
But your first movie was in his Crash. That's the
first movie I had a I had a small part
in the Wash.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
That was like the.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Snooping doctor Ship. That was like a cameo. But the
first movie movie Crash, then Too Fast, Too Furious, then
Hustling Flow, You Hustling Flow, John Singleton and Craig Brewer,
and man, it was just I mean, I remember Skinny Black.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Is that your favorite role you ever played?

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Noah, the rolling crash is the favorite role I've ever played,
to be completely honest with you, and it's uh, but
the hustling flow shit. I remember John Singleton coming to
me saying he wanted me to play a rapper in
a movie. I was like, man, I'm not doing that.
I don't want to play a fucking rapper. I'm a rapper.
I'm like, if I'm gonna do these roles, I want
to do something outside of the realm of my own personality.
And then he sat me down and he was like, well,

(16:29):
you know, this isn't your personality. This is kind of
a little bit outside of And then I was like,
he convinced me to do it, and and the rest
is history. And and rest in peace to John Singleton
because he's the one who put me like we said
it too fast, too furious. He took ice Cube and
you know, you put them in and Boys in the Hoods.
He's taking ty Reese and put them in Baby Boy.
So he takes people from the music world, notices a

(16:51):
talent in them, and then literally puts them in movies.
Next thing, you know, catapult them to a whole other level.
Lives too iconic. So Man, he rest in peace. Man ever, grateful, forever,
thankful for ever, thankful. He lived down the block for
me before he passed away.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I used to hang out with him all the time,
and I told him, can you put me a Snowfall?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And he said never.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Because he said my New York accent is too foul.
He said, I can never go for a l a person.
And I was like, he's kind of right. I've been
living in the South for sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I'm not laft your accent for that.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Ben.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, I don't think I'm gonna try to just try it. No,
I'm just drinking up. Give me your best. But you
know what's dope on Snowfall? That dub C is Actually he's.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
A dialect that Yeah, yeah, somebody told us on drink jams.
I'm I'm sort of the Bond scenes and then yeah,
I know that trained them.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
So John singles in this l moving on, let's get
the stand up and that video stand up.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
I remember, Man, we was all in the Death Jam offices. Man,
that ship right there deserves a show all within itself,
just being a depth jam in New York City and.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
You're doing my interview. That's my next question. I'm trying
to like you notice good.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's good. You got murder Inc.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
You got Rockefeller, you got disturbing the peace, you got
all these I'm talking about craziness.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Exce up there one day, Jay there, one day, job
up there.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Another day you got red and meth coming to food,
smoking the place out. But all that being said, it's
just like, bro, I remember going up there and stand
Up coming out and this nigga.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Irv Gott he just bombarding me. Yo. What the That's
how you put out a fu fucking shine?

Speaker 4 (18:41):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Fuck? That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
It was like, I just that type of energy is crazy.
But I think as artists, we all have certain records
where we're kind of on.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
The fence about if that ship is at hit. We
know it's a fucking hit.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
In somewhere we're like, we think it's hit, and then
that ship is not a fucking When I heard Stand Up,
me and his nigga Kanye was in the studio in.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Atlanta, Georgia. He came down to Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
And this is a dope as story because it was
the engineer and it was Kanye and I know a
lot of people. You know, we talk about producers and
a lot of Kanye for being a producer.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's early Kanye.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Listen, bro producers sometimes they don't you don't you know
their producer. You don't see these motherfuckers touching the button
electronic equipment in person. Literally just me, Kanye and the engineer.
That motherfucker made that beat in like five minutes on
the goddamn ASR.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
T and keyboard by himself. It's literally just us three. Wow.
And I mean it was fucking amazing.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
And if you listen to that song, there's probably like
five sounds in the song that's It's a simple. It's
very simple. So I call it dynamic simplicity. That motherfucker
did that. So all that being said, yes, stand up.
As soon as I heard that shit, I knew it
was a hit.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
But how did you come up with the concept for
the video?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Man? That's just the way my mind. That was you
that came up with the concept.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
A couple of things that I've never kind of that
I regret in life is that I wanted you to
direct one of my videos. We can still do that. Yeah,
I've got to make the records, I got you. I
ain't got the record, but hold.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
You, man, the way my mind works, I wouldn't even
be able to answer that fucking question for you.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Bro. I just whatever, the.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Most ridiculous, ludicrous, out of this world wild shit is.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's what I come up with. And I'm like, let's
do that.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
And I definitely got to give Dave Meyers his credit
as well, because you know, he shot a lot of
my videos and.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
He shot that one. But the big shoes, you know.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
The babyhead on the I mean, the big head on
the on the baby's body, the little person hanging from
my neck, list, all of that. It's just I just
love the visual aspect and just showing people something outside
of the realm of what they normally see. I love
it and just create my own lane, that's you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
And and by the way.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Of course, I was one hundred percent inspired by the
Busters of the world and the Missis of the world,
but I had to make my own lane even in
that world phenomenal videos.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
But because I mean, that's what kind of really really
what separates you, right. We know your lyrical we know
you could pick hits, we know you could do that
but it's really the I think that's something that me
and you share. It's like the comedic sense. It's the
big people want to be entertained and laugh, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's a good ass question because a lot of people
don't know what I can attribute a lot of my
style and videos and all these crazy ideas too. I
literally was raised off of Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy
and comedians like that's all I used to watch as
a kid. When you're young and you're not supposed to
be watching that shit. So I'm like, you know, seven, eight, nine,
ten years old, bis Markey, bis Markey.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Too, all of that shit I'm just I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
I was raised off comedian Okay, So in terms of
me having this style where it's like there's comedic elements
and my videos being funny and me just always wanted
to have a good ass time and laugh and just
be lighthearted and just have fun. That shit comes from
just me loving comedy. I was a deaf comedy jam fiend.
Like I watched it over and over again, Eddie Murphy.

(21:59):
You know what you're probably now, Dave Chappelle Martin, Like
I love that ship.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I love it that one of the videos you made
was somebody bothering somebody in the stall while they in
the bathroom. You know you know that shit got worse.
You said it got worse. Yeah, like like you when
you go to take a piss, what are you talking to?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
People? Take about?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
I wouldn't take a Pisso the other day sometime taking
over lives.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
In the southron I had to handle. Now, she's crazy
out here. You don't get they did it to you.
You don't go to the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I don't go to the bathroom. You don't go to
the bathroom. Don't go to the bathrooms? What are some
crazy ship that stalker? Like?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Like ever did you? Is the craziest ship that ever happened? One?
Are you sure you want another?

Speaker 4 (22:44):
One?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Like? We just Noah. We was on tour and.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
I was on my tour bus and we noticed there
was a car following us from like one city to
the next.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
So we're talking a three hour ride.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
So after the first thirty forty five minutes, we're like, yo,
this fucking is one hundred percent following us. So we
pull over and it's a whole fucking family that gets
out talking about father, mother, and kids. They are the
ultimate lud Chris fans, and they're following us to the
next city, and we were like, what I.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Want, race, We're race. This is a game. Yes, from
the Mountains of Caucasian twenty million records. I love it,
I love you.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
But yeah, that was probably the craziest ship that ever happened.
We had to make them stop following us. Where you
have a wrapped bus? Is this weather following the Well,
we have a bunch of buses. The wrapped one was
not the one that I was on. Put it that way,
but obviously they knew.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I figured out which buss, figured.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Out I was on that fucking bus.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
So I mean, luder Man, your career is just phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Right, thank you, bro? When is it? When is the time?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Because I know, for my own personal experience, sometimes I
still don't think I've made it right off field, don't
feel like I got to the.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Level where I want to get.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
But there's so many people in this world that says, oh, man,
when was the time that you felt like, man, I'm here,
like I can't be man.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
It was it was two different times.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
So one, like I told you, I used to work
in that radio station, and they never had us on
contracts because I was myself and a guy by the
name of cun Daddy were the youngest, the youngest guys
at the radio station DC.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Now, no, no, not that, not that. OK.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
So we were the youngest people at the station, so
basically everybody else had contracts at least year contracts. So
me and him, I'm like, again, I'm eighteen, so I'm
young as hell. I don't know shit. I'm just out
here having fun, making making more money than I've seen
hosting clubs. So since they didn't have us on a contract,
you know, we were in fear of losing our jobs
every day because we were live wise. We were doing

(24:50):
stupid shit at that radio station, things that you would
get fired for immediately.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Shock jock type shit. Well you're like, fine, shock jockshit.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Shock jock is like doing something that you know, oh you.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Talk about against the competitors. Suggest No, I'm talking about
just stupid young shit, like you.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Know, smoking weed and the limit, almost burning the goddamn
car down on top of shit.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
So yeah, oh yeah, yeah. The crazy shit is that
at the end of the day when I was when
once your fantasy came out. So I had an independent Wait,
so what talking about? Talk about what's your fantasy? Came
up while you at the radio station.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
That's Derry, I'll cut you.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
So the whole story goes, I'm at this station and
I'm making these you know, little hundreds of dollars here
and there while I'm hosting these clubs. So I built
up enough money to where I had about five to
ten thousand dollars, where I put all that money back
into my own album. So I'm paying for all my
record and all my mix and all my mastering. And
this is a time when vinyl was still out, So
I pressed this whole fucking CD together and I had

(25:51):
the vinyl and everything, and then I distributed independently, even
though first you kind of sell the shit out to
trunk and there was an independent distributor in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
So once I started put I put the shit out.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
But the craziest, most dynamic, strategic part about this whole.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Plan is in radio.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
As you know, as time goes on, everybody at radio
they moved a different city, so a lot of people
don't stay in one particular slot in one city at
the time. So during that three to four years that
I told you, I was up there trying to get
put on as ludicrous and then it eventually had to
invest in myself. I had a lot of friends in
different places that had dispersed all around the country, so

(26:27):
I literally told them, yo, I got this single.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's called What's Your Fantasy?

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Just give it a fucking try on your station, other stations,
my friend so I had a network, but it was
all it was all a plan, so they started playing it.
The ship gets instant reaction, obviously, instant reaction on there
on their channels. So once the shit started to blow up.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
And yes, spins, which is what's giving me.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
We had like eight hundred bdspins on our independent artists,
which was unfucking heard of. So this is when all
the labels started calling me. Before I get to that,
we motherfucker started calling my cell phone. Don't even know
how to fuck they got my cell phone. I'm talking
about CEO at every goddamn label, and you know, that's
another story for another day. But ended up signing with
Death Jam and they sent me my contract, and I

(27:14):
remember being on air and all those times that this
station made me feel like I could get fired every
fucking day. Signing my contract while I was still on
the air, and that being one of the best fucking
days of my life, knowing that I didn't tell them
to go fuck themselves and nothing the radio.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
I just literally after I signed that contract with him
and said, hey, I probably won't be.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Working here anymore.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I just letting y'all know, I'm gonna put my two
weeks in okay, in two weeks of life.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
But how.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
You no symbolic as fuck? So the crazy shit is,
you know DJ Gregg Street. Greg Street was my competitor,
So he's on this other station that you everything you
do is competing against the other station, and we were
on the same time slide, which is six to ten.
So the moment when us your fantasy started gaining traction
and I'm on the air the same as him, and
this motherfucker started playing What's your Fantasy? Somebody text me

(28:07):
and was like, yo, Greg Street is playing your song
right now. I said, I'm not I'm not believing that shit.
So were on commercial break. I turned to this motherfucker
station and I hear my song on the competitors station
and I was like, that's quick. I fucking made it
one of the best days of my life. So all
that in one you can it. That's the first time time. Okay,

(28:28):
number two is gonna be me winning that rap album
Best Rap Album at the Grammys. So this was probably
a good ten years later, every time I went to
the Grammys, I'm in the category with Eminem and Jah
Rule and these motherfuckers were killing this shit. Jay z
dmx Luda's huge artists. But when it comes to these motherfuckers,
I'm losing every motherfucking award right yet.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
So yeah, it's all good.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
So I come around and finally, man, I make this
album released Therapy Bro, and I went on there and
I was like, man, I'm making this fucking album and
I'm going to win Best Rap Album for this shit.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I don't care what happens.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
I'm specifically going in writing this shit, making it the
way it needs to be. And when they called my
fucking name, Bro, I was like, that was that did
it for me? Because you know, all the years, it
was like over a decade of loss and then finally
getting that recognition and then Best Rap Album at that
which you already know as hard as fucking and they
weren't really giving the rap category what they needed and

(29:29):
then a funny story to that. I know Shaka gonna
laugh at this shit because I was so passionate. After
I got that award, I went backstage and at this time,
they had all the artists separated by curtains, so motherfuckers
weren't in specific rooms.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I say that to say, I get back and I'm like, yeah,
fuck yeah, I made it. I did it. I won.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
I literally set out this album to make it get
a Grammy and I got it. And all of a sudden,
I hear this voice from the other room, on the
other side of the curtain, and the motherfucker's like, shut.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
The fuck up, man, some of us didn't win any Like,
who the fuck is that I pulled the curtain back?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
This nigga justin Timberlake is on the other side of
that motherfucker that niggas just.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Shut the fuck up. Some of us didn't win, and
he got the Grammed this year. What the fuck that
nigga justin Gangster bro Holy, that's crazy. And you know what,
I'm gonna say something else.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
We talked about t I earlier, and like all the
ship that we've been through, something that I do respect
of all the ship that we've been through that same setting,
within that same timeframe as me winning because he was
in the same category. He came up to me and said, congratulate,
look me in my eye, gave his hand and said congratulations.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's some hard ship for a nigga to do. So
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
We talked all the ship that we had that was negativity.
That's something I want everybody to know that was positive.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
As fun and I respect that because we asked him
about you on the same show and he kind of
had the same sentiment. Let's give some flowers, get some flowers,
get some flowers, and be honest with you. From the
beginning of our show. We want to give you these flowers.
Who wanted to tell you how great you are?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
You you he's been a year one request. We've been
year one.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Request in the quarantine episode, but that didn't count.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
But let me just say that that means the world
you have you have. Let me tell you who you
are as an artist.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Right, I'm gonna tell you who I was, a person,
but who you.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Are as an artist? You have that unique of fitting.
Let's let's just make the lord to the flower lady
for you.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
You're the first one to get the flowers in a
breech a new iteration casey.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Because there's people. But let me tell you who you are.
Let me tell you who you are. Tell me about myself. Mother,
let's go. I want to hear. There isn't There.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Isn't another artist who can fit in a gangster genre
and kind of like a backpack genre and kind of
like a top forty genre and kind of like any
genre and kind of fit there.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
You know how you like? That's love?

Speaker 4 (32:14):
He's You're a rappers, rapper, That's what it is. Really
a rest yes coming from that means the world.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Yeah, I'm just being honest with you.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
You can more into anything you man.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
And I don't know if I said this earlier, but
one of my biggest gripes with Pharrell was when I
first got in the studio Forarrell, he was like, you
have to embrace your character.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I'm sorry that leor was that Pharrell is Leo Farrell? No?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
But Pharrell was like no, but he really was like,
you have to embrace your character. How buster embraces a character?
And I didn't understand because I was like, I'm not
a character, being who I am, and He's like it
doesn't matter who you think you are, how the people
perceive you, right, And I never embraced my character. And
I felt like, from the moment i've seen you from

(33:07):
what's your fantasy? I was like, this guy's embracing his character.
He's doing exactly what for real. And by the way,
throw them bows. I heard that beat, Ye, I heard
about this. You gotta tell you what happened. I think
the truth one year. For twenty one years, I've been
kicking my ass and kicking myself in the ass. It

(33:29):
was not for you, bro, crazy, it wasn't for you.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You knew that it wasn't for me. It wasn't for you.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
It was I wouldn't have to go to the hospitality,
wouldn't have Yeah, that wasn't for you. It was every
time I see the video with you upside down, I was.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Like, that's how I've heard the beat. I was upside down.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Let me say, as you're giving me my flowers, I'm
gonna tell you band from TV, that shit changed my life,
my life.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
So anything, look, anything you're giving me right now. DNA
helped mold me. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
But let's talk about bowls. So the hospitality you in
the studio. That's just after my Fantasy.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Yeah, this is after and we had to literally turn
the fucking album in like the day after.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
This is already Death, not the independent version of what
you were putting out already.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
No, this is death version of Death. This is the
first album.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Fat Kevin, Fat Kevin.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Let's just be clear. It two different Kevin's. Yes, I Love,
I love all three.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
Rob Love is doing the mark I had just started
started doing you just ca That's when I started doing
Street Team. This is my first project that I worked
as the regional form for South Florida Fantasy.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, this project, Lucas project. You don't put the f
N on.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Look at that Doc Fresher passages you.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yes, So.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
You go to the studio and then all got this
beat already playing.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Farrell got the beat Man, and I'm like, believe it
or not, Like I was saying earlier, sometimes you know
what's a hit.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Sometimes you were like, eh, I thought.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
It was cool when I first heard it, Or did
he start doing like this? Yeah, of course you know
for real?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
That shit. Sorry. So I go in the car, like
this is where I write all my music. It's my car.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
I always I write all of my ship in a car.
I love the fucking car. You got the surround sound.
I get my own space, roll the window down. Producers
do that too, with the beats they go in the car.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Did they make it? Yeah, hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
So I think maybe it took maybe forty five minutes
to an hour. I had them verses. I went in there,
did the ship. Still thought the song was cool. And
then when everybody else heard that motherfucker, they was like.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Are you fucking crazy? This is out of here. It was,
And we was in Virginia, Virginia. We were in fucking book. Yeah.
We was in Virginia at for Real Studio. Okay, okay, okay,
I know this, yep. Hell yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
So that's how that shit came about, man, And that's
what that's what set it off, because what's your Fantasy
was for the ladies obviously, and then once throdn Bulls
came out, it was a rap that was like the
record is crazy. That rounded everything out in terms of
me being a new fucking artist, and it was it
was a game changing.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
No you want you're a new artist, but you're on
death Jam. Yeah to me.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
The first Southern artist signed to death Jam by the way,
no other Southern artist, So it was all New York roster.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Like you said, you read.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
This is what this is, this is what I.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Want to I mean read from this.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
But because what's Scarface already the President? Nod you was
already signed to death Jam, and then they made Scarface
the President.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
I want to say it happened like signed damnit Okay, yeah,
because it was you first, and then that's when they
kind of like run in Scarface face. I think he
was president. Like right before I got signed CO signed yep,
so Kevin and Scarface. I was their first sign. Again,
you had you had jay Z had joh, you had DMX,
you got you, you got Meth, everybody whole roster New.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
York and I was first Southern artist.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
So we we was debate about, you know, whether this
was the right label for us, because we was like,
I don't know, if they don't.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Know what to do with the Southern arm.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
You have felt dope because regardless any hip hop had,
Death Jam is the mecca.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Listen, man, cool Jay changed my life. You must have
been like, man, I'm bad. That's That's the reason I'm
here at this table today. That's the reason I wrap
and I've told this motherfucker. He was there when I
got the Hollywood Star. H just this this this year,
so man, yeah yeah now ll cool yeah so depth jam.
I was excited, but that was the only reservation as

(37:31):
I was, I was the only Southern artist on that.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
But that ship worked out like a motherfucker. Hell yeah.
Would you ever do a residency?

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Absolutely, we would love first presidency be in Vegas for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Residencies just announce it. I know, Found Blue just opened U.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
I currently have a deal in Vegas, So politically I'm
not going to be able to tell you.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
That right now.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
But next time I'm on I got this won't be
the last.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Wherever you're the dealer is let's go. Let's do that now,
lovers and friends.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
When I was on here, we were on the way
coming here, a lot of people said they made a
lot of babies to lovers and friends.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
That's a great thing. Ship Is that a great thing?
That's a great thing. A lot of people make babies
and what's your fantasy too? But y'all, no lovers and friends.
We never shot a video for that ship ever. And
this record is huge, But till this day, I just
had a show last night. I got a show tonight.
We always do Lovers and Friends and the whole crowd
sings the whole damn song. But that's that's a special
one right there.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
For sure. So where was you at? And Usher called you?
And you called he called them.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
It's crazy. We were in Miami. Usher had a fucking show.
It's funny. Tou shock the fuck with me about my memory,
But I have the most selective memory. When you asked me,
that ship came to me immediately. Me and John showed
up for Usher's show down here in Miami. John singles
Little John, Oh Little Johns.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
John produced the.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Record John Recordkay's actually Little John's record. So we came
to his show and this Nigga ushers like, Nigga got
another one. I got another one for us. I was like, word,
let me hear the ship. So before he goes on stage,
they let me hear it. I'm like, we're out of
here again. On a whole other level, Yeah, fucking hunting
something VPRs and Friends sixty something VP We out of here, Yeah, nah,

(39:14):
man making history with them them too, man, some of
the greatest brothers on earth.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Bro for sure. God damn, this makes no noise. Listen,
Thomas long, are we ready? All right? Jamie, are you ready?
Quin Thomas? Everybody ready? Quick? Time of slide? You got it?
The second one all right.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
By the way, could explain him the rules, and they
were gonna tell you the two evil motherfuckers will make
these quzzus.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
All right, we're gonna yeah, We're gonna give you two choices.
You pick one, and then nobody drinks if you say
both or neither of them. We drinking, Okay, so picking
in that. I gotta drink too, Yeah, yeah, we drink. Yeah,
I'm with you. Yeah, we're not gonna let you drink.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
All right.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Good and by the way, we've been excited to have
you here, brother appire. You can take a sip from
your drink or take a shot whatever you like. We're
gonna I'm gonna let me st okay, have shots okay, yeah, okay, No,
we got homegirls's.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
That's Jamie. Yeah, yeah, that's Jamie. Yeah, I'm sorry. We
got one girl here. Let her do a girl, one
girl here, we do take a shot. Have income over
here and take a shot.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
With Okay, we're gonna bring him in later. Yeah cool,
all right, So yeah, you want to set it off.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Gucci or Jeezy, and you could explain the stories to
go with anybody. We mentioned both names because we want
to just talk about different people, not in a batter
negative wage.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
No to me, man, I love both of these guys.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Man, I'm talking about the history that they've made, what
they've done for the goddamn culture, but just personal on
a personal level. In terms of who I probably listened
to more, it would be Geezy.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
That's my guy.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
But man, Gucci, what that motherfucker has done for the man,
for the street culture, No one in the like we
talking about GZ and Gucci, But let's just say for Gucci,
I don't think anyone has done for street culture what
that motherfucker has done for street culture and hip hop
here and his transformation here. When we did the men's health,

(41:19):
they had me. I told I told them people they
need to get Gucci. How to fuck y'all not gonna
get Gucci. That motherfucker made the best transformation in.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hip hop period. Crazy and they thought it was a
clone at one point, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was clone.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
I remember that I played Coy clisident. I'll say, wait
a minute, t I are two chains t I are
two chains.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
You know, I would give credit where credit is due.
When it comes to to to Tit, I call him
Tit in terms of I think that something that people
don't give him credit for is how different he tried.
You know, he tries to be as opposed to doing
what everybody else is doing. I really think he texts
the time to make different caduses with his with his raps,
you know what I'm saying. And I, as a rapper,

(42:06):
you have to appreciate that. Not just going off from
the norm because that's risky, but in that particular battle,
I would I would go with.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
T I Yeah, out castle U.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
GK out castle U GK.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
God damn, just take a shot for the So just
take a shot for the South.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
You make me take us out?

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I gotta answer, But I don't lead the witness.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm leading the witness. I'm sorry, don't lead the witness.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
This is more a personal thing because both you GK
and Outcasts have done so much for me. People don't
realize the relationship that me and Pim C had. Man,
he really did a lot behind the scenes. When I
was first starting out, we had the song on my
first album, Stick them up and that motherfucker is amazing, amazing,
but outcast taking me on tour like with them and

(42:51):
just everything they did, I'm gonna have to go with outcasts.
And that's this is that. That was the hardest one
of all the questions y'all have given me so far.
I'm going I gotta go with you on your first tour.
No they is that what I said? I went on that,
you went on to them. I went on to it
with them. That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
That was your first tour?

Speaker 5 (43:09):
No, no, no, no, wait, what's that our first tour
going on tour without cast? Yeah, my first time going
on to an outcast.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
And this was the stink Oni intour.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
I saw that its flaws and just trying to act
like it was nothing.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
Yeah, we got history, fly your Holy Morning eight ball
m j G or three six mafia God damn.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Now we're taking a drink. Take finally sold. Yeah, silent
m hmm.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Man, I'm talking about those motherfuckers. Both of those were
the Bible, the Bible of life.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yes, my life, ship, next money, hold on, I'm recovering
from that moment. That's what I wanted the verses to be.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Ship Jesus Christmas balling MJ and three six Shauna or Trina, Shawna.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Or know what I mean? You know, I'm gonna go
with the whole team. I gotta go with Shawna on that.
How'd y'all connect? Because she used to be in a
group called Infamous Syndicate out of Chicago. They were signed
to what was it Relativity? Yeah, they were signing to
Relativity Records. And forgetting that check from Relativity because you
don't w a nigga Relativity.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I said, damn your only two niggas this whole motherfucker
they got a Relativity.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Check at that time. I got yall respect that go ahead? Yeah,
so bad.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
But now I was saying, I just Shauna in terms
of I think she's lyrically and just hadences and blows
and how she's able to do shit. She's fucking incredible
to me. And that's not to take away from any
of Trina's catalog and what she's done for the culture
as well, but just in terms of rapping, I gotta
go with Shawna on that. And Shauna came from Infamous Syndicate,
which we noticed her talent early on when she was

(44:53):
in that group, and I was like, man, I gotta
I gotta do something with that girl, crazy with it.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Imagine how hot Chicago is se i'n you discover Shawna.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Now right right? It almost like she was like ahead
of her time. I'm gonna have to agree that's what.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
She's definitely ahead of her time, you know, And I
don't think she really gets the respect she deserves. I
got to go back and listen to that. Oh no, no, no,
she's a beast, beast beast like going to play with
drink champs.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, I'll tell her that she would
definitely come on all right. Fast and Furious are too
fast too furious?

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Which there's two called fast and furious. Youre talking about
the very first, first one, the very first one. I mean,
these guys wrote I'm just reading, but that's what they meant.
They meant the first one. No, no, no, next one.
This will let you know that I that I'm not
a biased person just because I'm in a fucking movie.
I'm gonna go with the first one over the ship
that I'm in one. Yeah, I mean, that's love you,
but think you for not coming to work that day,

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that's it's set. It's set the tone for the whole
for the rest of the first sequels. So it's like,
you know, how can you be mad at that?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
That's crazy? How that that has endured that series.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
But it's the people that's making it endure. It's the
whole world, don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
They love it.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Nuts, craps. It's a co following facts eminem or Buster.
Why y'all put those two together?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Man ship.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
If it wasn't for Bust, I wouldn't be here. God damn,
I'm taking the shots that.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Damn. These are some tiny ass shots. By the way,
it's a lot of.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
It's a lot of questions, trust me, it's a lot
by design. By design. Then later on you be like, damn, y'all,
y'all funk me up.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Okay, I got you. Yeah, y'a don't want no lawsuits.
I get it. I wouldn't be the one to see
so you're too rich for that.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Not as a jadakiss, A jadakiss made you look remix
that I'm on with both of these mother buckers. Yes, yes,
I'm gonna have to go listen. I'm only I'm only
doing this because we I got virgos in the house.
I gotta go with my Virgo brother man.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And you know what.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
You know why I say that because I'm on to
knock yourself out remix And I'm mad at Jadakiss for never.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Putting that ship out that goddamn song like that.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Like that the only reason I'm saying Nas right now,
Jaya put that ship out. Let me stop right now,
because you also have a record with Nas and Jay and.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, one of the only artists that got
a record with NAS. Yeah, doesn't have to join two
of them.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Yeah, that was recent, right right right, I'm just saying
it like that was like the Unicorn. Of course, how
did you pull that off?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Bro? I was literally, did you a lot of both
of them? Absolutely not. I was cool with both of them.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
He's gonna be Yeah, that's like being at the right
place at the right time and being cool with both
of them one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Nas did his verse first and then Jay did his second,
and I was like, and the song is called out
do it.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
For hip hop? And if you ain't heard that ship incredible,
you need to go stream this motherfucker right now. It's
only on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Yeah, dj djh Guru helped make it happen, and then
DJ Premiere did the beat DJ Premiere and Bobs and
jay Z come on listen bring.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Don't get enough love for that. Yo, You got NAEs
and jay Z on a premo beat and people don't
even know that a lot of people know it, just
like he said, that's one of his favorite ships. But
they did fly under the radar.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
But we're saying it now on Drink Champs and you'll,
motherfucker's got a lot of followers. So something tells me
people about to go listen to you said, young Guru
has something to do with it too, right, Young girl.
Shout out to young girl for making it happen. Thank you,
my guy.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Kendrick Lamar, J Cole.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Oh yeah, listen, those are the two motherfuckers I love
the most right now. They keep me inspired, They keep
me inspired. Yeah, you can take that shot. I love
both of them. So those are my picture.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
The class.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Yeahs like Bulgarie put on a Bari lotion and I'm like,
how are you doing right now with these drinks?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
You know when he stands up at any point, that's
when you'll know. Listen, let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
You shaka your whole team, man, I'm sorry. I'm like, man,
I really love you brothers. Man, you brothers are the same.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
You know you six six days older than me. You
know that ship, so you'm a little homie. That's I
like that Burgoh. I ain't gonna lie though.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
The unity that y'all show, uh, the longevity that ship
is so beautiful. Man. Like when I seen because Shaka
don't call nobody, you know. So when Shaka called me,
I was like, holy ship.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I don't know what I was doing. I was just
like nigga. I was in the middle of something. I
made sure I was sound this move.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
It's like, yo, we're pulling up. And it was so
good to hear from him because he's such a good brother.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Absolutely, y'all team is like so solid, bro.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Just in case you didn't know, and not to not
to cut you off, but twenty four years, no contract,
never needed one.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Whatever, twenty four repushing.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
Man, my fucking handshake, look at each other's eyes.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
This is what it's going to be. And we're riding
and that's it.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Unheard of in the music industry because it wasn't industry. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying exactly. By the way, I
want the young artists. Can you say that one time?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Please?

Speaker 5 (50:34):
Twenty four years, no contract, no management contract.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm nothing.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah still okay, yeah, good, relaxed, having a sentiment to morrow.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah yeah, tchupocket DMX Oh come on, you can't the
fuck man? Why would you do that? Man? Dj E,
Come take a shot with me. God damn. Now, y'all, y'all,
y'all getting dirty now, man, we've been.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Dirty, that dirty, We've been dirty. Yeah, come on, m hmm,
then help trust me at Aliens, a Crimini.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
At Aliens or a Crimini. I'm gonna go with a Cumini,
just because I love at Aliens with a Cumini. There
were some records on there that was just like, let's
put it this way. I think Andre three thousand was
spassing on at Alien, but he's spas on a whole
other fucking level on a Quimini. Go back and listen
to that ship. You'll see what I'm talking about. Hen
did his thing on the Flu album too.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I thought the Flu album was kind of album we
need that.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
One of the beats and then Joe Butden just them.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
I was like, I wanted to rhyme on one of
the beats, and I was like I said that though
before said watched hip hop samples and make it more
hip hop than anything else.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Somebody already did that ship.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah yep, and they didn't. They didn't like Loupa.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I didn't hear that according to Joe, Buten, this is
what come on, man, I'm sorry, Damn, it's a lot
for joking the podcast. I'm like Kanye Pharrell on a
production tip on whatever tip. God Damn, that's.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
A hard one too, bro, two totally different styles in
my opinion.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Fuck Kanye or Pharrell. Come back to me on that
one too. That's the best coming back to me.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
You know what's crazy is like that the catalog that
they have is it's so extensive.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
That you can't you can't like that. That ain't no
ship that you need to hurry up it.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
But they are kind of totally different people, even though
they have a lot of similarities. Yeah, let's go to
the next one. Yeah, l COOJ or Big Daddy came
I just.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Told you ll cool J is like the holy Grail
with it because if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't rap.
And I've seen Big Daddy Camee a couple of times
over this hip hop fifty year and I've told him how.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Much he meant to me. But if I had to
rock the bell, they're doing still smooth, too big daddy,
So I'll be trying to get him out of characters.
You can't because that.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Is his character that's operated, that gets done.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah. Real, So Metro Booming or zatoven.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Man they told in that motherfucker is a guru on
that goddamn piano man. Both of them extremely talented. If
I had to choose one, I'm gonna go with Metro
Man On a production.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Tip, Organized Noise or Beast by the Pound.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I was about to say, you can stop there, organized
noise once again, Like that's when it comes to production,
organized fucking noise. They need more acclaim. They was, man,
just go back and listen to any of that outcasts.
You know, Goodie Mobs, Cool Breeze started a whole movie
Dungeon Family. But when you listen to that production, it
didn't sound like any fucking thing that was out and they.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Changed it per artists, like it's like their their sound
for each group and artists was different one.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
So I got to go with organized Noise on that
for sure. Yes's how I thiggers get together real good.
I see that, I see what's going on, what's going on?
To watch it.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
I'm watching a little Baby or dub Baby, two different
styles right there as well.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Ship. A lot of people say dub Baby is the
new Louda.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
No, I've heard those comparisons, and I've seen him in person, man,
and he's such a talented dude. Man, motherfucker directing his
own videos. And yeah, that's what we always thought you did. Yeah, yeah,
I mean to a degree, I still do. But I
just told him how proud I was of him. And
when I look at what he's doing, you know, he
did mention me before. He said that I inspired him
to do some of the videos he's done. So just

(54:52):
because of that, I love Little Baby. But let's go
with the baby because hell yeah, they got on or
Donald mar nigga, how many of these do we have?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
We shot? Oh gotcha? Okay, that's right. Entago and Donald
Mars both in faster for Otago or Don Man. That's
a take a shot. Yeah, we said shot, take a shot.
This ship got yeah, but I don't have it. I
ain't got a shot. Yeah, no, no, no, Jamie, Jamie
got yours. Jamie. You know Jamie at l as well,

(55:24):
she's atl atl. Yeah. Yeah, you're telling me that I'm
gonna take a shot. Yeahs dam.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Is that the difference between I know we in quick
time with Slane, we're kind of like making music and movies.
A lot of the times when I made a movie,
I made bout seven to like nine to twelve something
like that, throttle cameos, but.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I had to do physicals. I had to do all that.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Yeah, I don't have to do that when I make
an album. Is that the difference.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
It's a lot of differences, but that's definitely one of them.
We can do whatever the fuck we want. We don't
take drugs and shit like that. As rappers, you know,
it's the most freedom. And you know what, I'm glad
you asked that because people would think, like, what's the
better job to have? Sometimes when you a list movie star,
you get the huge bucks and you get millions and
millions of dollars, right, Some rappers don't necessarily make that

(56:17):
in that short amount of time. But the crazy thing
about what I see that movie stars envy about rappers
and entertainers is the fucking freedom that comes along with
what we do and that you can't put a price
on that shit. So my number one job in the world,
and I feel like everyone should aspire or what they
aspire to if they want to be in the music

(56:38):
industry is to be is to have that freedom.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
I can't tell you how many times, Lula, and I'm
not I'm gonna be very careful of what I'm about
to say. How many times I hung out with basketball players,
football players.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Those, for h.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
I don't hang out no soccer players, baseball players players,
and these motherfuckers get high as fuck, and I'm really good, but.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
They they're hiding it. That's where he's going. Hold on,
why the buck? Did I just have days out of
wood right now? Like this is the first time on
drink SAPs him just saying that to me about basketball
players getting high as fuck? That moment I've seen and
heard this ship before. This is the first. What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (57:33):
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I would be looking at you. It's true, though, I'll be.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Looking at them like you know, I don't got to
see Roger Goodell.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Simmons is not coming to see me. Give a fuck. Damn.
These guys will go in right.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
And then they got to play on Sunday and I
watch and I said, he didn't make a sack at all.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Why did he get hir with me? Yo was Yo,
you're going a little too far.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
I go to the studio. My verse is still okay. Yo,
He's gonna kill me for saying this story. I'm gonna
say this, real fast hung out with one, real fast
hung over a baseball player's chilling. This motherfucker gets bit

(58:32):
and I'll get bit. But my crib is right there.
I'm like, I know I could go to meet.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
I go to Stevie. He wakes up the next day.
I turned on the vision. He strikes out everything yore like.
So I'm sorry, athlete, you gotta relax.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
I had to me some similar experiences. So you're telling
the truth, Like I said, Day's I bro, that's real okay.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Next one, yeah, man, oh man.

Speaker 6 (59:09):
Hustling floor or what the fuck did y'all? Oh hustling
flowing crash or crash.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Crash man crash hustling flow? Is that both of those
are classics.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
By the way.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Just the experience that I had, thank you with going
to the Academy Awards and that ship winning when nobody
thought it was going to do that and it was
an independent shot movie, and that that ship is everything
to me. That damn Crash movie. To have that on
my resume is that was first, right, Crash was the
first crash all that.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah, I know you picked Crash, but Terrace Howard just
did a interview, yeah, talking about how he didn't get
paid for hustling Flow like you know, he said, got
fifteen thousand, No fifteen, say four thousand.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
That's fucked up because you got got paid like a
mother but s sorry, damn, that's my nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
He's dealing with different He's getting four thousand dollars only.
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know
anything about that, but I heard it. I heard him
say that that's crazy. That is crazy, one hundred percent.
That's why you got shock on your time. Absolutely make
that type of deal. Go ahead, right, the source or
double XEL, the Source or double XCEL. I'm gonna have
to go with the source just because I got a

(01:00:30):
source award that my fucking career. I don't think I
have a double XL award.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
It was the original. Yeah, I gotta go with gotta
go with the sorce. Yeah. Now you're just making up
ship now what you do, I'm not problem, It's all good.
I'm fucking with you. Vin Diesel or the Rock. Vin
Di's a little rock.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
I would only say Ben Ben started the franchise when
it comes to fast, But man, both of them motherfuckers
are some of the most disciplined individuals I know when
it comes to whatever they put their mind to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Yeah, and then ty Reese and the Rock worked the
shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
They did work that ship out. That's real, all right,
go ahead, metha. Red Man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
People used to say I was a down south red Man.
I love Red and I just saw him recently at
the same place I saw you at the Leo Corn event,
and I was just giving them as praises. Man, and
I've had moments and some history with both of them.
But in terms of just who influenced me more, I
would have to go with Redman, alright, Rick Ross and

(01:01:36):
Trick Daddy Rick Ross. But I would say without Trick Daddy,
Rick Ross wouldn't be here, which is very difficult to
choose between those two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
God damn.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
But I mean, just in terms of when I'm listening
to all of the catalogs, I would go with Ross
on that one. But thank you Trick for even allowing
Ross to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
You know, to do what he did. And in the beginning,
he's the man. He put him on. I think he
put him on the record.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
And Tuck got his teeth done to This makes no
noise for that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Only you would do that, the nigga. They got his goal.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Love go to the parents teaching night. Now, I'm not
sure go to DJ Calendar, DJ Drama, DJ Kalid or
DJ Drama both my niggas. Drama is looking at this
very close. Oh no, for sure, he's gonna text you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
I love drama, but I have this record that no
matter where I go called, all I do is win,
I do it every goddamn show. So as much as
I love Drama, I gotta go to calid on this because.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Real, yeah, this is a difficult one. Scarface of ice
que fuck man. Shot.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
God Damn, that's a hard one. You know what, I'm
gonna take the shot, but I am gonna say scar
faced on that. I'm still I'm still telling I'm take
the shot because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I want to take a shot. You want to explain
why you why you went back on both of.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Those man, both of those artists are so amazing. Both
of those artists to me are like like you say,
artist artists. Everybody has pretty much set their tone or
been influenced by those two motherfuckers in some way, shape
or form, iceq. What he did for the West Coast
and all of the industry and what Scarface did for
the South and all of the industry.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Both being very lyrical, both being extremely lyrical.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
But I think my heart is closer to Scarface, which
is why I chose got it face. You play golf, man,
we were just talking about this ship. I don't have
the patience yet. Man, I'm gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I want.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
I can't fuck y'all golf niggas. I don't have the
patience yet. Man, I'm getting there though.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
His face that good at golf.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Face is good again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know. I have no idea the
niggas that good. Yeah, he's seriously got Next.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Night, Timberling and Swiss Beats, Oh fuck man, both my brothers.
Those are both my brothers.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
If they are friends in the industry, and I have
very few, like when you talk about real shit, those
are both my friends. But uh, it was no secret
when I had my verses I was given praises. I
feel like, to me, Timberland is the best producer of
our time. That's just my opinion, And I know people
will beg to different, But when you go back and
listen to his beats and you think about, like how

(01:04:27):
he structured snares and kicks and eighto eights and the
bounces and are peggiating, and it's completely out of the
norm again of what anyone else is doing. And I
just feel like he puts so much into it and
Swiss making history on a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Other level for what he does.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
But personally, I gotta go with Timbling and you don't
go back to the free as well, Like the fact
that he can go between both is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah as well.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
And if we go back to the Pharal and Kanye joint,
just based off the word influence, they both have major
influence on a lot, but I feel like I'm gonna
have to say, Kanye in terms of influencing, we're going
back to the other one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Just came back to want to make sure that you're
going back to be going back to nobody there. We're
gonna regardless, Yeah, but go ahead, you good. It was
Kunye for what happened when you say.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
No, yeah, I mean that's that's probably the hardest, the
hardest fucking question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I love both of them, made records with both of them.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
In terms of influence of not only certain rappers and production,
I would go with Kanye for Real mostly production, and
by the way, for some of for Real's verses and
some of the hardest fucking verses in hip ho. Make
a mentioned to that, by the way, because do it
every now and he's take a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
It's all good. Everybody take a shot. He confused everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
I think these are moments where it's like you talk
about some ship that not a lot of people are
talking about that. Nigga for real got some verses in
this hip hop game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
We've got some part ass versus like he against the rapper.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
On So I would say on that one, I would
go with Kanye Cool analog or digital.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Analog, Man, analog, I gotta go analog before he don't know,
you don't, don't relax, you got you can't you know
where you're gonna go. You let's go there? Why why
analog before he says, because.

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
I'm not even gonna make sure you're not wrong. But
versus white. Analogue is weird, not weird, but it's not weird.
It's no weird because it's just not analog.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Digital is trying to emulate what analog does. Analog there's
ones and twos, there's electricity flowing through analog, and there's separation. Now,
not to say that digital is trying to do that,
but it has not done that yet. Hasn't done that yet.
You can't, there's not You cannot emulate analog. There's nothing
you can do. There's circuitry, there's energy. It picks up
the energy in the fucking room. Digital doesn't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
No contact. You said you're gonna say that, Get the fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
No. What I was gonna say was yes, it's actually
he said, you're not gonna say the electricity.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Of the monologue two point five. Say. What I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Say is when you listen to music in the nineties
where we couldn't send but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
That's the email man. We had to be in a
two inch rail. We had the little everything, little people
with the rail.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
It's legit as a rail, little people as a rail
to bring up to sound on sound to write track
studio and Lula couldn't send me his verse.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
He had to be in the same exact studio with me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
That's why analog is this ship is because I can
he's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
The person, the person, which is true. That's the same.
It is the best.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
The reason why you said you look, you look look
at some of these dude dues records. You're like, you
could tell he was in Utah. This nigga, you got
Utah and people in Utah right now he was one
niggas in Utah and all the niggas in Kasstan bor
Rack and this niggas he's being with the cow and

(01:08:18):
bells and ship. You can hit the bells, the and
the You're like, You're like, this is too fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I know I would have fun when I came. I
know I have this much God damn. But this is.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
What I'm saying is analog. That's the reason why analog.
I just want to help iterate what he was just saying.
You're not iterating anything he said. You're giving your point,
which is valid, one hundred mad valid.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
My point is fire. But I say this, he has
nothing to do with analog.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
That's the reason why I felt like you analogue is
because we had to be there like, Meier sending you
a beat is totally different from for man making that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Big in your face.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Absolutely, that's analog. That's the reason why I felt like
you picked it. And this part of the just here
part of the By the way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Ludacris is the only nigga to come here and pick
his hair. Drink chat that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
Jamie sitting around, and Jamie was like, listen, Jamie's a bartender.
And Jamie said, you know what, I've been in Atlanta
long enough.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
I can do this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
He's like, I'm a hair tender too. She said, I
could be a hair tender too. And guess what we had?
Uh you MTV raps of Rap City.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
I'm gonna say, uh rap City because man, did you
did you see them Ludacris in the booth?

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Rap City? B got we got it, we got you See,
I could pull it up. This nigga been doing our
interview the hold down.

Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
You got it?

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah, it's in a good chat. Was eighteen the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
It's in a good chat, good good dream cham sports.
I see some pools ain't smart because they going against me.
I've been rapping on a whole nothing level past the league.
You could ask read enough I ripples.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
As long as my clicks fitted my Cadillac truck.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
It's lower than six mines.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
It's what it cost me six digits your eye out.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
And play football with it. Girls, see me the hall
hard so much money. I'm trying to buy a college call.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I don't need payola as long as my eyes that
rather than crayola.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Let me ask you something. We keep going with the
quick Time, but have you ever felt nothing quick about
quick Time? Hour?

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Doing quick Time? Y'all need to change the name of
that ships.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
But have you ever felt that you never got your
just due as a lyricist? Have you ever felt that way?

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
I hear people say that, and to a degree, but
when I said those moments like me winning best Rap
album for you know what I mean, which doesn't happen often,
you can, you feel like there's a certain amount of
people that do feel that way. And I feel like
the real Luda fans they you know, they do feel
like I get.

Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
I get you could wing your best rap album, but
you know, like being the lyricists like the Nazes and this,
have you ever felt that you didn't get that from
that world?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Like the pure purest hip hop side to a degree.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
But I guess what I'm saying is as time passes
and these things are standing the test of time and
people are going back and listening to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Shit and the repetition of it, they're starting to say wow.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
Like so there have been times where people like, oh,
he don't get the lyrical recognition he deserved. But these
things keep circulating and getting the people's faces and all
the shit different shit that I did. And so when
people are reminded of that, then it kind of like
it makes them remember what the fuck that we got
going on and what we've done in the past and
the whole you know, the catalog, the history everything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Because You've always been a pure lyricist as far as
I'm concerned, Thank you, man, And that's what I set
out to do for sure. And again we're gonna get
back into quick time, slow time. But who were your
inspiration's lyricists? Man? I had so many, but I think.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Definitely, like red Man I said, ll cool J made
me want to rap, definitely outcast. I definitely want to say.
Common Sense is another motherfucker. I love that first Common
Sense album absolutely. So that's just the name a few,
A little one, that shaped and molded me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
That's fine. The next one, Oh, you don't got no
quick time of today is just me and my phone. Huh,
I get, I get, It's okay. It's okay with me.
It's okay. I told you a long time ago. Yeah,
cash money or no limit. Damn fuck y'all cheers movements

(01:12:46):
right there they are? Ship. Do you want to say
anything about them?

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
I mean, ship, I'll be talking for days about the
impact that they made. Man, I've never been like at
a loss for words because it's so much I want
to say, But this will be the first time. It's
so much I want to say about that. Like that's
a whole other drink stand We're gonna need to hold
another hour. But like just giving them praises on what
they did, like from an independent standpoint, to independent labels
that changed the whole fucking music industry peer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
And for the South in general, like absolute landscape of
the industry.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
Whole landscape of the industry. And I know I already
took my shot that might be the only nigga to
do this. Answer the question after, but let's go because
of the longevity, I'm gonna go with cash money.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
But I'm cool. I already took the goddamn shot. All right,
you gave them both props, and then.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
I'm just being just being real, just being truthful, even Missy,
even Missy well only because earlier y'all heard me say
there's definitely some Missy influence. Missy has had me on
like four records. Just from a standpoint of working more
with Missy because Eve has done some incredible things. I'm

(01:13:53):
gonna go with Missy on this one.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
God your Juicy J. God to Juicy J. Why did
y'all put those two together?

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Look at this because the Dominican over there, Yeah, they
don't even know why they put it together just because
they're both from Memphis.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
That's crazy, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
I'm like, and they don't even know why because from
medicine the correlation.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
So you said that, I mean, I love your guy.
I think what that motherfucker is doing with his label
is amazing. Man, he need to give you one of
the best part of CEOs. But Juicy J was a
part of my history and records that we've done together.
One of my favorite verses of all time is that
this bitch that hole with Project Pat and because of

(01:14:36):
our history I'm gonna go with project with you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Before we go on to the next question. Is that
something that you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Something that I received being an artist CEO, sometimes the
opportunity to present itself, to present itself for the crew,
present itself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
For the individual, present itself for me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
And it's always been kind of like, uh, turmoil because
always when I've had the opportunity, it's always leaned towards
me as the artist right to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Is that something that you ever endured?

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
I think everybody that's a boss endures that. Like, think
about it, no matter where you at, you've got a job,
whoever your boss is, and how many times have you
criticized your boss. Some bosses deserve to be criticized for
the wrong shit, but a lot of them are criticized
because they're just trying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
To do what's best for the fucking company company in fact,
so they're gonna be you know.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
But at the end of the day, no matter what
I did, I guarantee you I gave everybody opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I always stood on business.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Nobody can say any of that shit when you talk
about facts and doing the best that I could for
every single person fighting at depth jam to get marketing,
budgets and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Right, there was a time we had.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Fifteen different fucking artists, and so I'm getting pulled left
and right doing everything, get on niggas mixtapes when they
asked me to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I'm charging two hundred and fifty thousand a fucking verse
at this time.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
Of course, I'm gonna do this shit for free mixtapes.
Whatever you need, what you need here doing everything. So, yes,
I'm gonna get criticized, But like I said earlier, I'm
okay with taking these jabs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
That's what we do as bosses. You're gonna get criticized.
That's that comes with the fucking territory, you know what
I mean. But listen, I can take it. I'm here,
I'm good, don't worry about it. But when I decided
the jab back, just don't get bad that Virgo.

Speaker 8 (01:16:19):
Ship right there, go ahead? Yeah or n w A man,
y'all motherfuckers. Man, this is my favorite question of all time.
I don't even think that question should be set up.
You don't ask everybody this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yeah, actually did that one? Yes, Yes, I actually loved that.
And I never agree with that set up to be honest,
I don't know. I don't either, but that's a good
that's such a good ask question. That's such a good question.
There's no way I can choose between those two, like
two different coaches that like did the impact that both
of the generation well this world, that impact of this

(01:16:53):
world almost done.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
God damn shots out and took Just let y'all know, Yes,
Nigga's over here stacking him up. Biz Marquis o dB.
That's the most random fucking matchup in very similar you
think about it. I thought about it, and I don't
think that they love Bismarkey. I'm gonna go with od

(01:17:20):
B on that one. Hell yeah, I did. I did
a record for od BB. Was wold wild as fucked.
I don't think there was. It didn't get wilder.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
OLDB definitely did up his nose and me a five.
I was like, wait a minute, say it again again.
He was like this, like, what's up? Like, damn nigga,
od B. I think Mary had picking bookers, so he
had a book. I'm saying you never picked his book
and wow, I was like, damn nigga, hold up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
Wow, best love damn death throat, bad Boy throw or
bad Boy Damn.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
That's another hard one, man, those catalogs. But for me personally,
I was a definitely notorious, big and everything bad boy fan.
But it's something about Dre's production and the consistency of
it with all of those artists and the sonics of
what death Row did that I have to give the

(01:18:23):
edge to death Row based on the production of Doctor
motherfucking Dress. And so that's a hard one because there
were different there was a hit man, you got a
bunch of different productions way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
But what I'm saying is, in terms of.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
Death Row, that was pretty much all over Doctor Dre's
envelope in terms of what he did production wise and
beat wise, I think that shit's unmatched. Dave Chappelle or
Martin Lawrence A god damn love both of these guys. Man,
Dave Chappelle or Martin Lawrence. Shit, shit, shit are we talking?

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Stand up?

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
Are we talking? Are you talking about the television ship?
We're talking about everything?

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Whatever? The fuck? Damn Chappelle, man, fuck, I tell you
take a shot. I grew up on the Comedians. Man. Yes,
we're almost done. Almost. That's all good, bro. I could
take fifty more of these motherfuckers. We got fifty more.
Let's got for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
We actually got someone threw in another one in this one,
Chila said to ask him that what I got?

Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
Go with it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
But who's Chilah? You mean, Shaka?

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
This guy's shot, He texted me, China, my aunt's name.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Finish finished, creaky tiwn Slim bringing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
About to say, Shaka, Jeff, what the are you about
to do that? Fucked up? If you're about to do that, he.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
Find in a question. He said that Chaka, but he
said Chi to the Cuban old lady man, that's not
that's not Chaka bro. Podcast of radio. I came from radio, man,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
From radio?

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
I got no disrespect to drink Champs and y'all, y'all
little podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
You know what ever somebody say little they hating like
them up, shout the podcast out of the right there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Right for sure, No, no hold up, we're going to
hold that because we got more questions that came after this. Okay,
So Shaka asked Cameron Verse or Sierra over overse.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I know what you mean.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
I was on what means the world to me? That
that remix? I was on Cameron's remix. You're talking about
the Sierra Verse. If I had to choose between knows,
I gotta go with that Sierra Verse. That's somethings that
I'll get wild. Those school's coming down in a different color.
Whib wib wib picture of perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
You might want to take a click click click click click.
Call up Jazzy telling that ship right there. I gotta
go with that. That what's the world to mes? Versus
stupid too?

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
But you recently picked up Camra Absolutely what was that complex?

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Yeah, the fire rock with that song right there, That
verse he got on there one of my favorite verses
in hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Oh that was, Yeah, that was That was versus. That
was so dope.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
You know, you know, a person of your stature to
like say things like that, it's like, so dope. It
makes you so much of a doper person to give
your flowers to someone.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Else and he's just being honest. That's the thing. That's
one of my favorite fucking verses. Go back and listen
to that verse. Now, the way you broke it down,
I'm like, God damn that versus.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
And I'm glad that I did that because that verse
go over a lot of people's heads.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
He killed that ship and shout out to Cam and
Mace killed, got kill shut out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
So all right, we got two more. It's all good.
Future twenty one savage. Damn, that's a hard one.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Too many hope for these motherfuckers letting this can't choose.
You know, we stick together drinking, they stick together. It
all good, all right, No, we'll do the last one,
you know, the last one. This is the only time
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
It should. It's not a trick question. It's never been
a trick. Trick TwixT never been. It's loyalty or respect.
Oh man.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
I heard somebody say something real profound about that before
loyalty and respect, because if you respect somebody, loyal shit,
I'm gonna have to go with respect.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
It's crazy as it sounds because most people would say loyalty,
but you got to really go to the definition of
loyalty and the real definition of respect.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Because the ship that me and t I went through,
there was no loyalty, but there was respect.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
That's real, and so.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
Everything that we talked about in this industry, there are
certain people that I thought was loyal to me, and
I thought I was loyal to them and continue to
stay loyal to them, but obviously they weren't loyal to me,
and there is no more respect. So it's just I'm
gonna have to go with respect for loyalty.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Believe it or not. That was hall.

Speaker 6 (01:23:11):
Real.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Ain't'm gonna take the shot any.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Fucking good, good good, just ask you, did the bitch
ever move?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Let me white, let me wipe the sweat from my
poone head on that. What does the inspiration bere he's
not moves my halffro goods, my rog good. Whether this
bitch bitch did she ever move? That bitch never moved,
never moved never. I'm taking a shot.

Speaker 6 (01:23:43):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
And me living from the South for sixteen years, I
understand that I don't move. No, no, no, no, I
understand that a bitch could be a guy or a woman.
That's how y'all everything.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Hell yeah, I hope he'll be a guy or a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Come on, yeah, yeah, I know that's different out here
here so the bits, No, we're in the South.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
But I guess what, the comedian, how do you do
this with this guy? Just be clean different?

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
All these years you asked that bitch to move, I did,
and that motherfucker never moved.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
Be honest, I don't want her to move. That ship
is a fucking movement. As long as you don't move,
people gonna continue to keep telling her to fucking move.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
The moment she moves, they might stop. We don't want
to sing the song anymore. Come stay in her place?

Speaker 9 (01:24:37):
Shot?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Watch me. I took my shot out, Jamie got down.
Hold yeah ahead, take come on? How did you find
that shot for him? Jamie? Double up for me? This
mother got reserved shot, an extra clip of shots, and
so she never moved. Now, she never moved, bro, But
that is the.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Most I don't want to say it like it's not
angry song, but like if you need to pump yourself off,
that's that started, marsh pits.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Let's be honest. It was a still it's a month
ship last night.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
I'm telling you we got to show in Miami, didn't
that We had one in Tampa last night? That motherfucking song. Bro,
I don't even have to say ship, you just hold
the mic out to the crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
How was that fair? If I'm the one getting paid
and the crowd is the one.

Speaker 5 (01:25:27):
That paid, and these motherfuckers are saying to stand there,
that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
I just standing there is.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
Record of all time, create record of Okay, kel C
made this right, yeah, yeah, yeah, back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
It's Beats by the Pound right living Yeah. I didn't
know that beat Spider hip hop too. I don't know
if you know that. I did not know that. I
ain't Google that or nothing. I bet you did google
because google.

Speaker 9 (01:26:03):
Yeah no, no, no, because I couldn't get a kiss. No,
that's amazing you wanted one at that time. I'm prior
before now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
He was early on it. You was early on all
those joints. I'm be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Cash Money and No Limit was the hardest people to
get at at one point, both of them. It was
No Limit first, and then master p that he had
one line. I'm be honest, what people who really know this?
It was one line's No Limit records and the same

(01:26:43):
person will answer the phone. They were like hello, They're
like we're gonna connect you, and it'd be the same
dude answering the phone like yeah, master Piece gonna come up,
like nigga, I know your voice. I got thirty thousand,
but you can because I do that. They wouldn't fuck
with me. So, but I'm gonna be honest. When Cash

(01:27:06):
Money came, they were they were different.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
Yeah, listen, I was at the radio station at this time.
It was unheard of bro to be an independent, and
the boxes jabowls and she was getting played on the
radio independent. Yeah, and the units they moved, like you
were saying, just in Texas and Louisiana alone, they didn't
need nobody yet.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
I didn't need the same thing with No Limit.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
I'm saying, y'all saying, you're not saying that that No
Limit didn't have that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I just but he I mean, okay, because No Limit
was doing the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
But what I'm trying to say it was I guess
they were ready for No Limit. They weren't ready for
cash money. The cash money was a totally different type
of thing. Like Puerto Ricans put me on the cash money,
and that means that means that there's no Puerto Ricans
would go fronts in the mouth. I know a lot
of them now. No then, because it was out here.

(01:28:11):
What the fuck I was in New York. There was
no Porto Virican like we had frames.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
You're talking about people in New York telling you about
cash money.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
No, I'm talking about cash money telling me about cash money.
I'm talking about when I went to I Actually, this
is how that's how I discover cash money.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Okay, I mean just there was a.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
Person on our label called Skullduggery CALLEDUG Records.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
It was on Penalty.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Yes, we went to see skull Doug with the intentions
to meet me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
A ex.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
Met Skilkod Shaka. So do to meet Oh yeah, see
murder to meet these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
We had no luck. They were so.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
It was a different type of thing. That's the first
time I seen mausoleums, the funeral that shit called the Great.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
These motherfuckers out boom. Yeah, they couldn't put it underground. Yeah,
sat there and there's Puerto Rican girls. She had gold
fronts in her mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
You think that's novel? Oh, let me finish. He messaged
with you all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
It's beautiful. And she said to me, you know, no
limit is one thing you need to get on that
cash man. And I went and that's how I discovered.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
You want to be hung.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
And I went Juvenile Record and I went to Angie
Martine that show and I kept singing that ship and
that's how jay Z got on Juvenile's record.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
And Juvenile Minute. What are you saying because of you.
Of course it's cussing me.

Speaker 10 (01:29:49):
No, I didn't know this just to me, of course,
juvenile me, hold on, hold up, juvenile said that baby
did not know who jay Z was.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
I wanted that local. Okay, we never had this story
legitimately said what you never said this story fully through them.
I don't know how you put him onto him. You
never said this story fully through. And I put jay
Z on no no, no, no, Jaz got call on
put onto him that I kind of went too far with.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Went too far with that part.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
But what I'm saying is, you know what I'm saying
is I went to New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
To meet no limit.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
This Portbacan girl told me about cash money, and that's
how I got put him in the cash money.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
And and the moral of the story is.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
The more water story. Was the first New York person
to accept the South. David Banner will say it, Ludicrisian.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Never should say everybody. I was the first should say it.
I should say, when you sign this contract, I'm gonna
take take a job. Let me tell you something, just
something I gotta get.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
You can feel it in his heart, even if it's
not just, it's true. No matter, don't know look at
look at this look discography. Lil Wayne's first feature with
Little called called Douggary. Little Wayne's first feature with a

(01:31:25):
New York Artist's fine, it's who yeah, Okay, thanks, thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Dominicans in the back. I'm gonna keep going shan the verse.
I keep going three six mafia. Okay, are we good? Okay?
That was why we drink jamps. Okay, it's actually why
we have drinks. I was the New York Miami people.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
I was the first new nigga coming to the South,
and I was like, Okay, these niggas just got an accent.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
They just the same exact people as us. It just
got an accent. But guess what I got action to y'all.
Y'all you jogging my memory to this day. Somebody I'll
say something, they'd be like, you're from New York. I'm
in Dubai drinking herbigie.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Yep, Guys, the biggest real estate guy in the world turns.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
To me and says, you're from New York. Of course,
from New York.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
My accent is not going nowhere. But let's reiterate to
what I'm saying. Let's get back to make it make sense.
I was the first person to accept the South from
juvenile to Lil Wayne to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
People.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
I actually was the first person to throw money from
New York in a strip club that was corny to us,
Gentlemen's Club, players Club, all that shit was corner to us.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
That was wack to us. Through the money, Let's go,
it was whack to us. Let me just tell you something.
It was a It was a rule in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
You don't take a ship in the strip club, you
don't eat in the strip club, lap dances, and you
don't get lap dances in the strip club. New York
was militant, motherfuckers. I moved to Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
I broke all three of those rules in the first
three days.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
You ship in the first three days, I hate ship it,
and you threw money, and I threw motherfucking money. I
was just like, okay, okay, Toronto, all right. So the
bitch never moved. We established that. Let's talk about money
Maker with Pharral.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Yeah, money Maker.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
That's a strip that's a strip club. And I got
a Grammy for that too, just just the single. But yeah, yeah,
in the same year strip club Grammys.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
No, I'm only saying that because, like all those years
I was losing that yeared up you a thing. Yeah,
but now again for real man, money maker. That ship
right there went number one on the Billboard charts. It's still,
you know, extremely relevant till this day. And man, I'm
just thankful for Pharrell for giving me so many fucking
hits and that's working together. And now I'm feeling bad

(01:34:18):
that I chose Kanye over my brother Pharrell.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
God damn, like you want to reverse, I want to
kind of ones who grab me with Kanye too. To
be clear, you're not getting no more than Louis Exclusive.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
I know right, it's a rap. God damn, I'm fucking
with you. No, but hold on, let's take a shot
for fucking shot for something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
I'm I'm over here drinking my drink.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
I don't even need the shott for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Cheers.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
Yeahs man, we got drinking over there. Bro, you want
something of this, try it here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
I don't mix my brother, not right now. That was
a twenty year old luder. I'm drinking the same ship all.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Thank you, Luda for being black black. Let me so
many people come on this show and they'll they'll mix
the drinks. I don't respect that fuck that I'm gonna
stick to what the fuck I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
Twenty days sober, and then this motherfucker is here, let's
get right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Twenty days. So he's being funny, Okay, how Low? Yeah,
I love I love holdok And he said say it
one more time?

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
T minus out in Toronto. He works with j Cole
a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
He produced that how Low, And at.

Speaker 5 (01:35:32):
That stage in my career, to make a statement with
a new producer and come out with a fucking hit,
it means something because you constantly have.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
To prove yourself over and over again.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
So motherfuckers like it's like, okay, if you ain't got
a rail beater, if you ain't got a Kanye beater,
if you ain't got a Timblin beat, and it's just
come out the gate like that. It meant everything. And
that shit went to the top of the charge too.
So that was a moment. To this day, the women
go low whenever we got damn performed and we like.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
To see it. It's a beautiful thing, for real, for real.
I think he was missed noise for that. Why not?
Why are you picking these particular records.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
I'm curious because I'm just working with she's a very
particular guy with these records. Yes, and now I want
to I want to go because we talked about fantasy earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
But here's where I want to go making the record.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
Is this a record that you said to yourself, this
is going to break me out into the mainstream, or
this is a record I'm just making for the strip club.

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
No, it's crazy you asked that because Organized Noise did
the flip side of that, which was game got switched,
And so it was between what's your Fantasy and game
Got Switched? And I like, it was hard for me
to choose, but I just felt like, what's your Fantasy
didn't sound like anything that was out at that time.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
We didn't know where he was from. Yeah, so I
rolled the dice from Alaska. It didn't like let no, no, no,
I'm just saying you sounded so everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
I appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
I don't want to use the word generic, but you
sounded like you was from New York because of the lyrics,
but then you was from Atlanta because of the vernacular,
And then you was from kind of like the West
Coast because she was making it all come together.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
But then you was from everywhere in vernacular. I like that.
I like that you alien, it was like you was
a al Now it comes to time's dope.

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
It comes a time in every artist's life where you
gotta it's risk risk, like you gotta just put everything
on the fucking line. And that was that moment for
me and that that record changed my fucking life.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
Yeah, And we were this close to choosing game Got Switch,
which is still on Back for the first Time album,
but that particular song right there set it off. And
like we talked about earlier, after that was fucking throwing
Bowls and the rest is history. Those two records together
just set the tone. And then you know, the sophomore
Jinx came around. You gotta go to word of mouth
and we passed that test like it okay.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
Because back for the first time, Why did you even
pick that the name for the first time?

Speaker 5 (01:37:57):
Like, because I had already put the album out independently
to a degree, so I did the ship on my own.
So when we signed with Depth Jam, we kind of
repackaged it. We took a couple of songs off and
added the pharal that throw and bows and like two
other songs. So basically I was back for the first
fucking time, back for the people that knew the old
record and new time, for all the new individuals around
the world. That's just hearing it. Word of Mouth. Yeah,

(01:38:24):
so man, pucking back for the first time. Three times platinum,
word of Mouth almost four times platinum.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Chicken and Bed three times. Just the list goes on
and on.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
But word of Mouth is the biggest selling record of
all of my albums. And I think we got nine
or ten at this point, damned near lost count. But
the word of Mouth, shit, move bitch was on there,
and we just we just spoke about that. That's a
movie and it's it's dirty, dirty with it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Yeah. Yo, this is beautiful man, it is.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
Shit, I'm feeling great. If I didn't have a show
to go to, I'd stay here all God damn night.
I love you, No book next time. I ain't gonna
have ship after I got you cut.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
But it's so beautiful because you deserve these flowers.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Thank you, bro. You earned the thank you, thank you,
thank you. And your story has to be told because.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
So many people think that it starts from being a
drug dealer, It starts from be in a street dude,
It starts from being a person that shoots somebody or
person or whatever. Put you took the opportunity to work
at a radio station, see exactly where you want to

(01:39:39):
be and apply that. And a lot of people need
to understand that. They need to understand because that's like
we got three fucking occupations in the hood drug dealer,
basketball player, rapper. But what I'm trying to say is
our industry it has to be saluted more. We just

(01:40:04):
recently seen each other. As you said in Leo Cohne,
Leo Combs is one of the best CEOs who's ever
helped me down. There's people who have their say about Leo.
I'm not one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
I see.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
Leo's life in my life being all positivity. How's Leo's
life reflected you?

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
He was the ceo, like you said, at the same time,
we were both artists at the same time. And in
terms of how he executed thought, he was one of
the best to ever do it. Definitely, like his strategy,
him putting together the team that he put together, how
they maneuver the industry, just very intelligent in a very
intelligent way.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
And that's definitely my experience.

Speaker 5 (01:40:55):
I loved what he did and in terms of deaf
Jam and the history of death Jam, in the legacy
of depth Jam.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
She was pretty amazing. This a moment in time. Got uh,
do they you want me to I'm talking about for camera.
Do one of them have to ask me? Ask you
what I got you? The people in the back of

(01:41:26):
the ass. Oh, they can't do that ship one more time.
I'm bad. I was like, I got you, y'all to
keep that. By the way, ahead, I got my name.
Ludacris is just me being me, being creative.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
My first name is Chris, and like we spoke about,
if you look up Ludacris in the dictionary, it means wild, ridiculous,
beyond crazy. When you think about my lyricism, when you
think about my videos, my visuals, all of that ship
entails the word Ludacris And then I just spelled it
the way I wanted to spell it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
That's how I got the name. So just being created. Yeah, okay,
let's talk vout my chick Bag my chick.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
Bat another time, same album as how Low and taking
a producer that was definitely well known within the midwestern
Chicago trackster but you know, in terms of putting him
onto an even bigger audience and making a hit song
with him.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
That was another moment with Niki. With Nikki absolutely, how
did that happen?

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
It was dope. She was in Atlanta at the time.
I believe she was managed by Dead Deborah and yep
saying as Gucci Mane, and somehow we got together and
she was just like she loved the track and got
on that motherfucker man. The rest is history. But she
was living in Atlanta at that time. It's right right
when she got started. Wow, hell yeah. Do you think
that that's true? Like most New York artists have come

(01:42:44):
to Atlanta to get on.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
I don't think that. Like I love what Thank you y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
Y'all are counting Conway, the Machine and Bennie and all
them as New York. That's New York, right, Yeah, that
is New York. Conway, yeah, and Benny. I know they're
from Buffalo. I'm just saying I don't think, No, they
didn't have to come to Atlanta to do ships killing ship.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
I love them because it's like y'all saying that, who's
saying that he the one that asked the listen. I
didn't say the ship.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
I'm trying to clarify what he said what a lot
of people said that. You know, for New York artists
to get on sometimes they have to come outside of
New York, go to Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
Right, for any artists in their city, you might have
to go outside your city to make things happen.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 (01:43:30):
But my point is that fim niggas like Conway and
Bennie and they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Have to go nowhere.

Speaker 4 (01:43:36):
Why they've proven a lot of things connected with the Matary.

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
I was on the record with Conway's Crazy Me, Conway
the Machine and ji j I d oh Jesus ship
stupid to Griselda Man Griselay, I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
I'm a fan of Grisella for sure. How my roll
out rollout.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
Was that word of Outout that was the first so
it goes into timbling and everything I was talking about,
but that set it off. And then Move Bitch was
the last single on there. But that video with the
Big Ass Head. It's crazy because we did that video
and the video didn't look good at all before we
came up with the concept of trying to make a
big a big ass head. Depth Jam was ready to

(01:44:17):
scrap the whole video because what it looked like before
we just didn't really get anything from it, and so
me and Shaka had the idea of doing this, you know,
this post effect and making out like a bibblehead. And
literally every once everybody saw that shit, they was like,
that's it good And the rest is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Fucking history because people love that video to this day.
That's what a bibblehead gets. Dope.

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
Yeah, and some other artists that have done the same
thing in their videos.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
You should check that out. Just go do your research.
The internet can check.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
You think you think you top five of the best videos,
and hell.

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
Yeah percent I'll give you that. Yeah, top five videos.
You know you gotta put Missi in there. You gotta
put Busts in there. Who the other two are I
don't know, but I'm in that motherfucking top five.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
I have to say I top three three. I think
I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
I really do too, Thank you man, because God bless me.
There's other people who get in that category. But it's
money wise, not create creativity wise.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Do that make sense?

Speaker 6 (01:45:22):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
I'm saying like, you can see them be put in
that space, but put the heads in it, put the
funds in creativity. You could do a creative video for
cheap and still be still be better money that you
put into it. Yep, I killed that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:40):
I feel like I killed that. Let's make some nice.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
That's how this Gambino video is one of the best
readers I've seen, like in the last five years.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Though. That's the ship called this is America. This is America.
I love to tell he ain't no do yoga.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Man, Look at the know you're saying this nigga didn't
wear no degree videos.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
He wasn't. He wasn't sure at all. I can look
and say this this nay just here, but that nigga
didn't wear no level. Bro, he really is. I love
that video. I'm with you. I'm just saying he ain't win.
He said that he's homiigg Charles. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

(01:46:24):
I'm sorry I went too far. I don't think he's
your friend at all. I know a lot of thinking
you to say that ship, damn, he said. I know
a lot of stinking niggas.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
It's a lot of thinking they're my friends. I don't
think your friends at all, not even one point five
percent of this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
You could look at that video. You can't tell he
ain't win. He was like that. I think you were
a little bit he No, who with this ship to
go to? I don't think we were.

Speaker 4 (01:46:55):
I'm not sure nobody wants to see this sure like
this is America?

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
No, I don't even know if this this is a
live show, Bro, I gotta do this ship man.

Speaker 6 (01:47:06):
I went to you definitely wanted for what is the roster?
We don't have a quick time with something one. What
are you talking about? Jam vandea daft jam data was
beating niggas up and we was beating niggas.

Speaker 5 (01:47:20):
I've been trying to work out my whole life to
get my statue to the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
And put on the tight suit to get your ship together.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Put them the lungs.

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
Oh yeah, you're talking about for the Yeah, yeah, I
don't remember.

Speaker 5 (01:47:32):
I truly don't remember that. That's not a cop. I
don't remember putting on no tights. They made me put
on a tight God damn, I made sure no more.
Feel me too, make sure he had tights on. You know,
I don't remember that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Bro? Are we going there and here like us cape?
Remember you get your royalties? No, you got word? We
all Yeah, we're supposed to get some money. You got
some money. Oh to you, bro, I got some upfront.
I was the upfront nigga. He's again to me right now,
I'll see you late.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
I ain't gonna lie my brother, to be honest, it's
like what you give me that. That's yeah, I've done
in the face. I hate everybody. Yeah, I got you
on both games one and two.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
I don't know. That's a good ass. I don't remember too.
I remember being one and two. I think it was one.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
Yeah, when come out of jo the second one. The
two come out not too long after one or that
ship just came.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Oh yeah, the same ship you did.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
Yoh, ruled with y'all, Past and furious. Jesus, he opted out,
sucked up. I might have took that bagd.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Took his bag, his bag. I took my bag because
the Vendetta bag fight for New York, and I fought
for Vandeta. Yeah, you fought for all that. I love.
That's what she's supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
Yeah, goddamn yeah, man, Fast and Furious is beautiful. It is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
You get.

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
Your trailers, the best fucking catering in the world. You
would be surprised that ship your trailers. Describing trailer this
ship is online, like, go go to my Instagram. But
the trailer is fucking duplex. It's like duplex trailers and
some ship that you didn't even know existed in the
trailer world and it's just stupid. Yeah, they got duplex
trailers out, bro, you come for what workout trailers?

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Because I went to hold.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Look Cold time out again before Okay, there, I wasn't
tour in Europe and I had the Ice Spice with
none of the Ice Spice was it was nicely Wi Girls.
I had the Spice Girls tour bus nicely and I
had the spiral staircase in the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Come yeah, yeah, yeah, no ship like that. They got
to listen.

Speaker 5 (01:49:52):
When you're dealing with a three hundred million dollar budget,
they pull out all the stops when it comes to
the trailers.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
When it comes to craft services, a whole different bus.
I didn't have that three.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
Hundred million dollar budget on we that Okay, a lot
of that go, you know, some of that ship goes
to the craft services cater and all that ship. Now
it's like, it's what's fucked up is going from fast
and furious set.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
To an independent set after that. That's what's fun. What's
the independence you went to just your mindset for that.
What's the independence that you you don't That ship just happens.
I'm adjusting. You went to adjust. I went from too
fast and ferious to like not faster, totally different.

Speaker 5 (01:50:32):
You get spoiled as fun and then you got to
go to something else and you're like, where's where's my ship?
It's like you almost like how did I sign on
to do this this independent movie?

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Like like, give me a girl. I just wanted to
It's not she's our bartender. It's not faster, ready to help.

Speaker 5 (01:50:51):
This ship is like being at a five star resort
set with fast and furious the most of it's the
most amazing thing the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Yeah, she should have went to work there, Jo, what
do you want me to do? I don't know. I
mean I read it in Google. I feel like Jo
than Google called Joe, called John. Give him. Let's just

(01:51:19):
let's just let's just see how you talk about it.
Give him? I see, tell me what do we do?
What do you shot up? FaceTime? Record face time? FaceTime?
Come on, you gotta go a hit him.

Speaker 5 (01:51:32):
Yo, This is great because I want to hear what
this nigga has to say.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
Yeah, you have to say this is phenomenal right now.
I mean it's it's only right. This guy knows him.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Look, you gotta FaceTime.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Let's see this before you Just tell him what you're doing.
Don't be a don't tell him Ship, just ask that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Don't be a we want to real reaction, like let
the cameras roll niggas like that. What is that nigga
doing right now? Bro? Nigga he with Logan Paul right now?
Now he probably knows you're calling him on the way
he was Logan Paul. I don't know. I'm gonna take
as because Logan Paul won last night. Right, he knocked
a nigga out. That's not the same nigga. Yo. Did

(01:52:13):
you ever want to box like your pops? No? No,
he taught you at a box. No he never told
me Ship what No, he told me how to hold
a gun. My father is a foul nigga. But that
nigga is a phenomenal boxer. He was a phenomenal bosser.
But I was not.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Okay, jar Rud didn't answer. We don't have no plan
b right because the outtakes.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Holy morning, he don't went to the bathroom. Yeah, keep
the camera. That's all we do. That's all we do.
That's all we do because you know, two hours, God, damn.

Speaker 4 (01:52:45):
God, damn it, Shaka. I just want to say something
I knows. Shaka is one of the best people I've
ever met. One of the best human beings on human feet,
not one of the best managers or the best you know,
people in history, best people period. It's a very straight
up guy. It's very straightforward person.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
Yeah, I wanted to give Shaka hit flower, you know
what I mean, because I don't want to say something
to all of us that's here. We live in a
we live in a great society, we live in a
great thing that we're we're all perishing from, we're all

(01:53:32):
benefiting from. But the thing is everyone in this world
has not been infinited from that same thing. So there's
always gonna be votres and I you know, big up
to Kanye and Tyler the Sounds for naming the album Vultures.
But in real life, voltures is not something friendly. There's

(01:53:53):
real voltures out here, real people that yeah, I don't
want to work for what they can get and they
want to just take and it's terrible because it's us
taken from us and that just shouldn't exist. Like we
worked so hard, you know what. DMX sat down with

(01:54:16):
me one day and DMX said to me, nor way
I stopped dissing whack rappers.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
I asked them. I said, well, that's kind of crazy,
Like why would you just say that?

Speaker 4 (01:54:27):
And DMX said to me because every whack rapper who
I think is whacked saves sixteen families. And that sixteen
families says another sixteen facties.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
Wow, that's deep.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
This was on drink Champs and I was like, Holy
moly moly, and that's what I kind of want to do, Luda.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:53):
It's about time we praise each other. It's about time
we say to each other, yo, man, what we did
and what we're doing and we'll continue to be successful.
For should be saluted. Yeah, it should be recommended. It
should be It should be in the forefront of what

(01:55:14):
life is because no one else is going to give
it to us. And I like to say, and I
like to say I'm hip hop. And when I say
I'm hip hop, what I mean is that's my religion,
that's my race.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Our religion.

Speaker 5 (01:55:28):
Yes, that's already because everything you're saying is the only
reason I interrupted the natural flow of things with what
I said earlier, because of what you're saying right now.
Somebody got to be the bigger person than all that shit, like.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
Go ahead, yes, And that's why I'm so happy that
you're here. It's because hip hop fifty is great. It is, yea,
but hip hop one thousand is even better. I want
I want your kids, kids, my kids kids, your kids
kids is how kids kids, his kids kids. Everyoneted to

(01:56:03):
grow up through that same sentiment. You couldn't have said
it better.

Speaker 5 (01:56:06):
We're talking about kids, talking about family, were talking about
hip hop and all this ship. I was with Rizza
a couple of years back, and I don't know, we
was just shooting the ship because I'm such a Wu
Tang fan, and I was asking him a bunch of
questions and along the line of questioning somehow, I asked
him we were talking about families, and I was like,
how many kids you got, and that nigga he looked
like I asked him a crazy question. That nigga said, shit, man,

(01:56:30):
you know hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
That was that Nigga's answer. That that's another the answer
was hip hop his children. That nigga looked at me
and that was it. I don't know what it meant.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
You never answered legitlemenly, I just said how many kids
you got? That nigga looked at me and said, shit,
you know hip hop? That could have meant Wu tang
nine what it could have been?

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
I don't know what it is. His children like everything
that has been inspired by them, have y'all had? When
you get him on here, please ask that we got
by the way I we need.

Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
I've hang out with Rizza, and Rizza is probably he
wants to come and drink with us so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
He wants to drink us though we're not trying.

Speaker 5 (01:57:18):
Like I'm out drinking y'all right now? Recently, how many artists,
let me ask my people of you, how many artists have.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Out drink the drink champs hosts? How many like this?
Who's one, who's one? Nobody. I'd like to go on
the record as being the first artist to out drink
lady and gentlemen, But I'm not gonna lie to you.
We was on tour together, me and you. Old death

(01:57:49):
jam stories are the greatest story. If you're like, please
because I like some beautiful story and we're in Atlanta.
This is This is docu documented on MTV.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
Luda Is, You're one of my favorite people. I just
want to just come and just say hi to you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
I have no idea. This guy's in there, he's from Queen's.
Who is you?

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
The guy that I slammed, He's he's supposed to lead
up to that guy for that guy he's sitting there.
He's like, little boys, don't show me no love. I
can know you don't show me no love. Mam deep,
don't show me no love.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
Someone telling you this. Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
Luda's swimming is fucking my diary. Somebody from Queens telling
me that he doesn't get no love. But I'm near
to see Luda and I'm just like, what's And this
guy is like, I'm like, I'm gonna show him some love.

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Took care of every busy jewelry. That's why a box
no mother, I know it was. That is a boxer.

Speaker 4 (01:59:03):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
That's what I'm saying here fighting motherfucker that I.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Took it off and I had no idea. We him
and said tell where you're from the assignment. The body
slammed and power bottle. This nigga all in one. It
was the craziest ship I've ever seen. Put some power
behind that body. And by the way, he cannot be

(01:59:30):
mad you. He out with us the whole night. So
that's the party you see after his neck got fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was like, yeah, we took some shots in Luda's room.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
We chilled the whole Did you wipe him off? Like
you're good? You're good, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:59:46):
I don't white people wipe.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
Him off, wipe him down. I ain't wipe him down.

Speaker 10 (01:59:52):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
Okay, okay, hold let me get back to the next one,
because I got a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
I got lued. Your discography is crazy. I appreciate loud.
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 6 (02:00:03):
How was there no version of you signing to Jermaine
Duprix or Dungeon family.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
That's a great fucking question.

Speaker 5 (02:00:14):
We kind of went through the history when I was
at the radio station, so there's different things that happened
with all of these different entities. I was the first
rapper on John Madden two thousand. That's Jermaine Duprix. He
did that for me, right, And I had the afro,
so you remember the Socio Deaf mascot.

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
The ship that.

Speaker 5 (02:00:31):
He was always joking like I'm the social death mascot.
So there was a time, absolutely a twelve percent.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
Yeah. I say this story all the time.

Speaker 5 (02:00:41):
But he's one of the people that when I was before,
I was at the radio station, just complete stranger, knew
where he lived, went up to his house, tried to
get this motherfucker a demo tape. And this nigga was
outside one day when I drove up and actually by
himself walked up and took the demo tape from me.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
That's how great of a person, Jermaine.

Speaker 5 (02:01:02):
He was outside and I was like, I want to
give you something that Now, this is ridiculous, like for
a motherfucker to be alone and actually like, you ain't
got to do that shit, right. I only say that
to say that I have my own extremely multi million
dollar home now, and if a nigga comes to my
gate and says, hey, come over here, I want to
give you my demo tape.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Fuck, no, I ain't going to go to get this
ship problem, bro.

Speaker 5 (02:01:22):
So sometimes in retrospect you look like, damn, that motherfucker
is a phenomenous humanizing bro. But all that being said,
so so deaf. Definitely you know that there was a
time where we work together, organized noise, like I said
they did gang Got Switched, Got Switched. That was the
flip side of What's Your Fantasy. So at the time,

(02:01:42):
they had so much going on.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
They had you know, the.

Speaker 5 (02:01:45):
Cool Breeze, the Witch Doctor, Outcast, Goodie Mob, all these artists,
and they were just trying to find and are you
saying that you were associated to them? Not associated? But
I was in there and I got records from them
at the same time while they were feeding all of
these other artists. So I was down there when Future
used to be called Meathead.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
That used to be his name.

Speaker 5 (02:02:03):
Oh wow, So this motherfucker was down there as a kid.
And it's just like his success is great because of
what he's done, but he was a student.

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
He'd be in there watching all the time. Still Ludacris
but on the radio, you know, Chris Love of Love.

Speaker 5 (02:02:17):
But I say all that to say, I've had my
moments with each of those entities, but I never signed
with them.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
Even with Timbling. There was a time where I.

Speaker 5 (02:02:26):
Was about to get signed to Timbling because my first
record before it was Your Fantasy. I was on his
album and I had a song called Fat Rabbit, which
ended up being on back for the first time. So
again I went through all of these processes and nobody
really stepped all the way up, which caused me to
put my money into myself and invest and do the
whole incog negro autu.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
And that's what it was.

Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
It was them though that didn't step all the way up.
I'm just saying, for the person listening, tru, that's you
right when you were that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
It's when you.

Speaker 5 (02:02:55):
I don't want to put the blame on them specifically.
It was like circumstances that they were dealing with at
the time where I wasn't patient enough to just wait around.
And thank God that those circumstances happened, because if they didn't,
I would not have said, fuck it, I'm going to
do this on my own. You know what I'm saying.
That's how things work out. Shit don't work out for

(02:03:15):
you to be able to do certain things and take
fade into your own hands. That's literally how it works out.
And so I went to an independent company. I remember
that they gave me seven dollars an holbum. I sold
fifty thousand records at seven dollars a pop. I got
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars check when I was
like twenty one biggest check I ever.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
Got, all put into myself. Yeah, and I made the
whole album for like twenty thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (02:03:40):
But again, that's all money I saved up from all
the after parties and shit that I was doing when
I was eighteen nineteen twenty from working at the radio statation.
So it was all part of the plan. It was
very strategic, and it took longer than I thought, but
that shit worked out the way it needed to work out.
I wouldn't be here if it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (02:03:56):
You think your process, the way that you did it
would not be appreciated today.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
I think it would be very appreciated today.

Speaker 5 (02:04:04):
We're trying to put this bitch on film and on
television the way that it happened, because there's so much
more to it. I'm just trying to give you all
the short the short version, right, let's took about Splash Waterfalls.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
Splash Waterfalls.

Speaker 5 (02:04:18):
This is That's a good question because it was Shawna's
brother is a producer, really, and he produced Splash Waterfall. Yeah, Yeah,
Shawna's fucking brother and Ice Drake so he produced that
song Splash Waterfalls, so he put Drake on. I wouldn't
say he's the first. That's rum the room now, but

(02:04:42):
that's where that came from. And we did the remix
with Tony Tony Tony Beat. So that ship is another
another great one for the ladies whenever we do these shows. Yeah,
Splash Waterfall.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
Before you got married, he was spinking pop a lot
of things. No comment, get ready for this part? No,
I mean I'm married like a motherfucker. I'm sixteen, So
you're just going in there. How many kids you got here? Six?
He's supposed to say, hip hop? Ma oh, hip hop?
I'm back. Ask the question again, how many kids you got?
Hip hop? Break it? Don't get outside, up and outside

(02:05:23):
holy ship. Let's we wanted to ask me that again?
Who got the best food? Dominican Republic or Puerto Rico?
Don't do that, Cubans, I said it. I don't know
if you understand the ward. He just that's why I
asked the question.

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
I'm hit me with all these questions, Cuban, Cuban, Let's
reverse the role.

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
Let me play slow and what's the ship called slow? Time?

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
With you?

Speaker 4 (02:05:46):
Time?

Speaker 2 (02:05:47):
Slow time of slime. Who's got by the way, who's
got the best Cuban? So he has no fight? Okay,
I got okay, Cuban's got the best food? Who's got
the best of Rolo? Best Cuban Cuban? Sorry, it's the best.
We've got the best rose Dominicans, Puerto Rican? Why you asking?

(02:06:08):
Its Cubans? Trying to I'm trying to stop this motherfucker
out here. You You're ruining it right now. I can't
let him answer any other than Cubans. Who's got the
best food? Puerto Ricans or Dominicans? Who's got the best? Yeah?
I want to know what that? What's the hard question
when it comes to Dominicans? Point, what's the hardest food? Question?
About my fungo? Who's got the Puerto Ricans win? We

(02:06:32):
went am old fungo.

Speaker 4 (02:06:39):
But but I'm going to tell you this, tell us,
tell us the best teacher I got is Puerto Ricans?

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
Why you, guys? But what was about it?

Speaker 4 (02:06:52):
Is all the best teachers from Puerto Rico, it'd be
the Dominican chefs.

Speaker 2 (02:06:59):
I hate it.

Speaker 7 (02:06:59):
I hated I can't I look up looking what the
what the fuck is one he do? There for funny
talking about it's not all the same ship.

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
Broo, we don't like it, right, listen, bro we all
the same people.

Speaker 5 (02:07:22):
You think you having a hard time. Michelle Rodriguez from
The Fast and Furious. One of her parents is Dominican,
one of her parents is Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (02:07:31):
Get back the dope ship about Let's wait for the sirens.
That's the move, that's the movie. Sorries are part of
the process. Dope.

Speaker 5 (02:07:42):
The dope shit about get back is Tom Cruise in
the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
Tropic.

Speaker 5 (02:07:48):
The dope shit about get Back is Tom Cruise in
the movie Tropic. Thunder Dancing at the end of the
fucking movie with the big ass Yeah, with the big
arms and everything. He was less gross grossman in that movie.

Speaker 4 (02:07:59):
Okay, he played left Tom Cruise because Tom Cruise was
the agent.

Speaker 2 (02:08:03):
He was a fat asient. Yeah, exactly. That was real.

Speaker 5 (02:08:07):
No, So what I was gonna say was the record
was good, you know, like we're being honest with each other,
like it wasn't my favorite of all of my records.
But when that nigga did that at the end of
the movie, Yeah, when Tom Crow.

Speaker 4 (02:08:20):
Tom Cruise can put on the fast suit, he put
on the just for men that everybody's wearing right now.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:08:27):
So when Tom Cruise at the end of the movie
put on the big suit and he danced to the
song the entire time, it literally took the record to
a whole other level and gave it a whole new
culture to listen to.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
And so it was good record, but he made it great.

Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
And that's what's dope about it, because just because Tom
Cruise would do that, and it wasn't like five ten
seconds we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:08:46):
You watched this.

Speaker 4 (02:08:47):
Movie the whole song, Yeah, yeah, So did it give
you a different idea of the power of that of the.

Speaker 2 (02:08:54):
No, not even that.

Speaker 5 (02:08:55):
So Ben Steeler is the one who produced and did
the movie, and he called us to do a screening
of the movie before it came out, and so a
lot of people don't know this man, Tom Cruise is
my guy. So we also talked to him about it.
They asked my permission about the ship, and then we
made it happen. And so I just saw Tom Cruise.
I was on tour with Janet Uh. He came out
to one of the shows. I saw him at the

(02:09:16):
Damn F One, the F One here in Miami.

Speaker 6 (02:09:18):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:09:18):
Tom Cruises, man, that's my guy. Bro, Tom Cruise is wait,
what are you? What's going on? I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know. He just was flawsy. No Tom,
at this moment, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (02:09:30):
Yeah, he was spitting. He's been bombed.

Speaker 2 (02:09:32):
Now he's a He's an inspiration man.

Speaker 5 (02:09:34):
When he does all his own stunts and ship like that,
that motherfucker is an inspiration.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
He plays no games, he does his own stunts. Bro.
He has to insure himself.

Speaker 5 (02:09:43):
He has to put millions of dollars up because he
wants to do his own study.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
He jumps from plane and all this crazy ship he does,
all tried to do that. I didn't agree with him,
come on, said big Pun did it. But it was
a different level. It was foul it level I didn't want.
I didn't want to sign it. No, but it was
the whole the level he came up. He wants to
jump off the nigga. I don't want nothing to do
with this. I'm sorry, but can you imagine it?

Speaker 5 (02:10:06):
Can you imagine doing a movie and you are insured,
You're putting up millions of dollars for your own insurance
because you want to do all the stunts because the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:10:13):
Is not going to do that for you. So that's
how I'm just saying. That's how much he.

Speaker 4 (02:10:17):
Believes you do a They say to you, Luda, if
you want to do your own stunts.

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
They don't even ask us if you want to do
Tom Cruise goes the extra mile I'm talking about. I'm saying,
they never gave you the option.

Speaker 4 (02:10:29):
Absolutely not, don't. I haven't got to that level yet.
That's you wouldn't go there. You wouldn't go there.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
Did you just see me at the fucking Georgia Dome
with the falcons? I just repelled from the goddamn ceilings.

Speaker 2 (02:10:41):
I want to do this? You want to do to ship? Hell?
You know you trying to kill himself.

Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
I'm gonna take the money, the money I get from
drink Champs and insure myself on the next goddamn we.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
Got no money. What are you talking about to come in?
We wanted to get up. They didn't tell y'all they
was paying me for this. Yeah, shock you for sure?
That's being shot the old ship from back in the day. Bro,
How you'm not.

Speaker 5 (02:11:09):
Gonna tell that's fucked up? I hope that it don't
come out of y'all check.

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
You know. It's funny because I saw him.

Speaker 5 (02:11:22):
Like a year ago. He was with Kanye. We was
that made my bone big money, and the nigga was like,
we got to get your on drink champs. I was like, man,
I'm trying to you know, I'm gonna come up and
when I got some ship to promote. The only reason
I have not been here is you said you wanted
me at the beginning because I needed I needed to check.
And so the only reason I came here today is

(02:11:42):
they finally told me that I could get the check
that I've been looking for for eight years.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
That's true, he just paid it. Something moved some birds.
Just look it up because every artist that comes out here,
hey man, all that money on alcohol, guys, really, where's

(02:12:09):
the check? Yeah? There is.

Speaker 5 (02:12:12):
I'm joking because motheruckers, I think I'm serious. I'm definitely joking, right,
But I don't want to suck up.

Speaker 4 (02:12:16):
The whole your flowers though, bro, because like I said,
like you're one of those guys that could could navigate
through any genre. Meaning if Tyler and had a show tomorrow,
you go in easy. If not, I had a show tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
If jay Z had a drink, cham said easy easy,
If my face had I got it easy. If for real,
look Kanye, if y J and your guys, you're probably
one of the only artists. Yeah that was like if

(02:12:59):
n w A or Wu Tang out of show, I'll
show up to either one of these.

Speaker 4 (02:13:07):
Chi Chill Chip Chill Red can certain night I show up,
lutle can fucking go on?

Speaker 2 (02:13:14):
I show up? What's your fantasy? Man? Right with sexy Red.
She's coming out with a red dog.

Speaker 4 (02:13:24):
And see right behind you like it's fucking bro for real,
Like you can fit in every fucking jump.

Speaker 2 (02:13:31):
Thank you, bro.

Speaker 5 (02:13:31):
Cheers to that ship man, the one not your phone
motherfucking your drink.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
Come on, man, it's not what I'm saying. Hold on,
I'm drinking right. I'm double fishing, man, don't double fist.

Speaker 6 (02:13:47):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:13:48):
It runs nights going on. Too much going on right now,
me and little battling. This is Vergo ship.

Speaker 5 (02:13:56):
Yeah, Bro, I gotta ask you how this ship. So
we've been here and I'm I'm loving the ship and
I want to stay. We've been here two hours when
I when I looked most of the ships is like
an hour whole don't drink ships.

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
Are three hours? Oh like idiots? Oh this is great.
I keep going. But you know what was your question though?

Speaker 5 (02:14:18):
No, I thought about the average time frame of all
drink Champs interviews around keep it up.

Speaker 6 (02:14:24):
The TV version it's forty five minutes with commercials, but
the real version is three plus.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
Got you okay, because I'm cool for a minute, But
I do have to go to No. No, we don't
expect yeah shot. Oh no, we ain't missing it. We
ain't missing we gotta we got to perform coming to
see you before. I'm coming to before. Now it's a
part of jingle jam or some ship. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:14:48):
So it's like it's a bunch of artists, but that
ship is in Fort Los.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
Nigga, I don't need a shot. I've been drinking my
giant Yeah, I'm all the way. Good, come in, listen.
We've been blessed to have Luther prisident. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:15:03):
I mean, you're about slashing on water falls already.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
I love it. I love it. Pipping holes all over
the world, pipping all over the world. It was never
pipping holes all over there.

Speaker 5 (02:15:13):
I did have a song called ho, but pimping all
over the world, pipping all over the world. Yeah, shout
out to Polo to Don on that one, and Carrie
Hilson wrote that hook.

Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
When you hear a singing, I feel like Polo's down,
had his braids on to the bit he did have
his brads.

Speaker 5 (02:15:26):
Hey love Polo to Don Man. That was one of
those records that he sent to me, and I was like,
I already knew what it was. And by the way,
since we're giving people their flowers, Man, Polo and his
sonics and his production of what he's contributed to the game, go.

Speaker 2 (02:15:43):
Back and listen to his catalog. His sonics are out
of this world. Need to give him.

Speaker 5 (02:15:48):
I remember Timbling, you know, leaning on him and kind
of giving him some some advice. And those are two
people that I respect when it comes to sonics in
the game, Doctor.

Speaker 2 (02:15:56):
J Timbling, Polo, Wow, yep. Have you worked with Dre?

Speaker 5 (02:16:01):
I haven't that If that's what's gonna be one of
the questions of who I haven't worked with Doctor Dre.
When listening when we when we was on the watch set,
he had like a kind of a studio off to
the side, and I went and listened to a bunch
of beasts, but we never were able to bring anything
to fruition.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
But you know he was.

Speaker 5 (02:16:17):
He was multitasking, so he was doing two things at
the same time. Man, it ain't too late. We can
still make it out. No, it's never too late.

Speaker 2 (02:16:25):
I agree. Let's make it happen. Let's make me listening. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:16:30):
Okay, Now this is the next question. It is the
stumped joint.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
Young buck, young bunk? Your buck? Can your bunk?

Speaker 4 (02:16:39):
We kind of went, we kind of already with yeah,
you kind kind of get out there.

Speaker 5 (02:16:44):
Let's go on Saturday. Then yep, Today's Saturdayday. Today's Friday. Nigga,
you've been drinking way too much.

Speaker 2 (02:16:51):
Bro, today, I like that stick. That's how busy you
gotta sit. That's how busy I am. You're right.

Speaker 5 (02:17:14):
Saturday Organized Noise did that ship again, so organized noise.

Speaker 10 (02:17:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:17:20):
They also did Blueberry Yum Yum, which is one of
my favorite records.

Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
But Saturday was on Word of Mouth album. Yo.

Speaker 5 (02:17:28):
You know you're blessed and you don't remember what song
is on what album because you got that album.

Speaker 2 (02:17:32):
I love.

Speaker 4 (02:17:36):
No it was.

Speaker 5 (02:17:37):
That was one of those records that it's just stood
the test of time and again in terms of trying
to do something totally different than what was going on
in the industry with the cadences of the verses and
just trying to be different.

Speaker 2 (02:17:49):
That was one of those things where I set out
to do that.

Speaker 5 (02:17:52):
And when you're coming out with your second album and
the first one is successful, you know that you can
take some risks and take some chances. And that's exactly
what we did. So that what happened my class field.
I believe produced or directed that video.

Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (02:18:05):
Your memory is very goodly stops holding no marijuana.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
Yeah, oh yeah, no, I do all that.

Speaker 4 (02:18:11):
Okay, I did it. Who are the top five? Okay,
I'm not gonna put five on it. We're the top
mcs that influenced you. We talked about that when I
said red and comment and but.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
I want you to go deeper. I know there's more
than that.

Speaker 5 (02:18:27):
Okay, So I said ll cool J because if it
wasn't for him coming out what I'm Bad, I was
in the fourth grade. I did a talent showcase where
I did that record, and I knew every word that
that entire time.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
I'm bad.

Speaker 5 (02:18:40):
No rapper can rap quite like I can tell man
to you, Pinnacle when I say that, he's the one
who made me want to pursue this as a fucking
career right to rap.

Speaker 2 (02:18:52):
And every time I see him myself, I saw yourself
and him in a sense.

Speaker 5 (02:18:57):
You can say, yeah, I mean, you can say that,
or you can say, you know when it once he
saw me, he saw himself and me. It could be
either way. But I guess what I'm saying is that
he inspired me to want to to rap.

Speaker 2 (02:19:08):
Right, take a peep.

Speaker 5 (02:19:10):
That's all good. So I would say ll cool J
just because he inspired me to want to rap. I said,
I think Scarface he talked about that face being the
phenomenal storyteller that he is talking about lyricism. His sonics
were amazing as well and honorable mention to Mike Dean.
And I know that was a part of that process.

(02:19:31):
You discovered Face through Ghetto boys, assuming I was seeing
ghetto boys. Yeah, I believe so ghetto boys first, because
he was he was a lot of people don't know
Scarface was a DJ before he was in the Ghetto Boys,
and you knew him at that point. I didn't know
him at I'm saying you knew about him. I knew
about him. Yeah, before Ghetto Boys, I heard about that.
I was engulfed in hip hop culture, everything that had

(02:19:54):
anything to do with hip hop.

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
I'm all about it. I'm researching it. I mean before that,
you must have been like really deepen in the South.
Though the South is well connected, man. I mean, I
feel like I know ship, but I didn't know that
part of it.

Speaker 5 (02:20:08):
So basically I would say scar Face, I would say LL.
I said Common, Right, I feel like Common is underrated, man.

Speaker 2 (02:20:14):
That coming since that first album no Id, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:20:18):
Resurrection, Resurrection yep, red Man. I said that first love
albums off the chain yep. And if I had the
name a fifth one, it would be Outcast. If you
can put those two together, Okay, that's one, you know,
so you feel that creates ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (02:20:36):
There's a I was.

Speaker 5 (02:20:37):
I loved all of hip hop, but you asked off
the top of my head, you asked me to name five.
Those are the first five that I could name that
helped shape me.

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
Okay, yep.

Speaker 5 (02:20:47):
But then you got, you know, being in Atlanta, like
the Kilo Ali's and the shy Ds and just the
base heavy and us loving the ride around Gucci Crew.

Speaker 6 (02:20:55):
Bridgie from Atlanta or the Miami ghost Town detis. I
always always represent Gucci Cris Miami, but I feel.

Speaker 5 (02:21:00):
Like ghost We had ghost Town DJs and DJ right, yeah,
DJ DJ Smurt for ghost Town DJs that like set
the tone, and you had ke Ali and you had
all these bass artists and that's what Yeah, well we
had that synergy with Miami and in Atlanta with the debate, right,
and that's what helped shape the kind of tone of

(02:21:21):
Atlanta music as well.

Speaker 2 (02:21:23):
So yeah, I would say that blow it out. You
at he how we just paused, It's fantastic, it's the best.

Speaker 5 (02:21:37):
And I was dope because that was Chicken and Beer album.
That was my third album, and I think my first
week sales was the highest first week sales of my.

Speaker 2 (02:21:47):
Entire career on that album. And I remember he was
getting eighty thousand verse back then. Let's make some noise
of that. He said. What she said? He said more
than that? Look look look at him. He said it
was boring. Hold on getting bigger than that?

Speaker 7 (02:22:02):
Best?

Speaker 5 (02:22:03):
When did glamorous come out? What are don't worry about
that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:22:07):
I don't worry. We got googlers. That's fine. But yeah,
probably they paid the Google. Yeah, no, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:22:13):
I don't know what a year, but I was gonna say,
what comes to mind with that particular song was us
shooting this video, and you know how sometimes you would
shoot two songs in one video. We had this Southern
Hospitality intro to that album and I still use that
intro to this day because they had an Isaac Hayes
sample in it, and it was most amazing fucking intro ever.

(02:22:33):
DJ Nasty from Ortlanta did that's called shout out the Nasty.
It's called Southern Fried intro. So we did that and
blow it out your ass all in one video. The
whole crew is in there, you know what I mean,
shawna shingy titty boy. This was when we had fifteen
fucking artists, so everybody is in this video.

Speaker 2 (02:22:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:22:52):
So it was amazing because that was just a moment
in time where I was like, I was after word
of Mouth did three point five million, and I'm going
to the next album. So once a nigga crossed over
that whole sophomore jink shit, it's just like, okay, Nigga,
I'm here. Fuck y'all can't say shit else about me.
Now I'm about to take this shit to a whole
other level. So that timeframe was it was a beautiful
time frame. It was a beautiful time frame. And I

(02:23:14):
remember jay Z I believe what because I did, I
want to say, like three hundred almost four hundred thousand
records the first week.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
He always that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:23:29):
Now you always fuck with me like that was my
guy because we was at the same label. We'll see
each other a lot, and he would give me a
lot of game. But after that first week, he came
to me, he was.

Speaker 2 (02:23:37):
Like, Nigga, there you go. It's official. It's official.

Speaker 5 (02:23:41):
Now you know that motherfuckers the first week King, Yes,
if you think about the history, that motherfucker's so like
half a million first week, like three or four times
if my mind serves me correct.

Speaker 2 (02:23:52):
So when I got close to that on his ass,
he was like, yeah, man, this ship is official.

Speaker 4 (02:23:58):
So let me ask you again. Them bounced around you
sign Chingy right, yep.

Speaker 5 (02:24:03):
I don't know mention the Shaka. Shaka was really the
one that spearheaded that entire Chingy movement and situation. He
kind of I went to an R but he was
the one that noticed it and picked it up and
brought it to brought it to the team. I don't
want to take credit for that, basically.

Speaker 2 (02:24:20):
Okay, So.

Speaker 4 (02:24:24):
Basically Atlanta's a region that's hot. But we know this
other artist here, Sat Louis is like kind of almost undiscovered.

Speaker 2 (02:24:35):
We got Nelly, and I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 5 (02:24:37):
I don't want to say undiscovered because you had you
had Nelly and he had his team there and this
was years before.

Speaker 4 (02:24:42):
Okay, yeah, but Nelly and his team is kind of
like in that same category, right right.

Speaker 5 (02:24:47):
But I'm just saying I wouldn't use the word undiscovered
because Saint Louis, from what from my perspective, in terms
of rapping, in terms of that category, Nelly really, you know,
capsulted it to a whole level.

Speaker 2 (02:24:58):
Yeah, absolutely, no, I agree with you. What made you
sign a Chingy? Was it because of Nelly's success?

Speaker 5 (02:25:06):
So Chingy had the song right there, so you put
it out independently. And that's why I'm saying Shaka flag
that he noticed it and he was the one that
brought it to the team.

Speaker 2 (02:25:17):
I can't take credit for this.

Speaker 5 (02:25:18):
I gotta give Shocka all the credit, right, Well, I
never heard it, but you know, as a as a
person who understands music and understands creative you know when
something is popping, and if you're the first person before
everybody else gets to it, and you go sit with
that artist and you know, you tell them you believe
in them, then that's what is the magic that can

(02:25:41):
help you even further propel them to superstar status. When
that song was out, we knew it was good and
we just wanted to help try to fault it.

Speaker 4 (02:25:49):
To a whole other level. I apologize. So he came
to you and he played you that record.

Speaker 2 (02:25:52):
How did this happen? He played?

Speaker 5 (02:25:54):
He played me the record, And I'm gonna be honest
with y'all. When I first heard it, I didn't understand it.

Speaker 2 (02:25:59):
You know, yeah, it was right there. I'm sorry, I'm
doing a dance. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:26:02):
Yeah, you're not really, you're not really doing to dance.
I'm you almost had it.

Speaker 2 (02:26:07):
Yeah, I'm fucking it up, lutle.

Speaker 5 (02:26:10):
When he brought it to me, it was I heard it,
and it's like I didn't fully understand it, but it didn't.
It didn't when he believed in it so much. Man,
you believe in it, there's much Let's roll with it.
And the rest, As I keep saying, the rest is
fucking history. When you believe in your brothers twenty four years,
no contract, where you believe in your brothers, shit happens.

Speaker 2 (02:26:32):
God, good, shit happens. God damn.

Speaker 4 (02:26:36):
That was beautiful. Okay, damn damn, Rod still good on?
Just to say it out loud, do you still have
your three dollar.

Speaker 6 (02:26:48):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (02:26:48):
Ninety three?

Speaker 4 (02:26:50):
I can legend nineteen ninety What makes it so special
to you?

Speaker 2 (02:26:56):
Do you need to say that the right way? Before
I entered, everybody knew I can't read.

Speaker 5 (02:27:00):
Let's go, Yeah, my nineteen ninety three accurate legend. I
absolutely still have that ship. And here's a great story
about that. Well, first, let me answer what you said.
What makes it so spaid?

Speaker 2 (02:27:15):
God bless you got that?

Speaker 5 (02:27:17):
That's COVID. What makes it so special to me? I'll
give you a quick story about what makes it so special.
I have had this car from from the beginning of time,
before I became commercially successful, before I signed my.

Speaker 2 (02:27:30):
Def jam deal.

Speaker 5 (02:27:32):
That was the tour bus, and it was the accurate legend,
riding the fucking Augusta everywhere in Georgia doing all these
you know shows with like twenty motherfucking people showing up
on the Chitlin Circuit because I had this independent album out.

Speaker 2 (02:27:46):
No I wasn't. It's just called the Chitpling Circuit. Do
your research. I've been there, so I'm still there in
my mind. Yeah, my bad.

Speaker 5 (02:27:55):
So what makes that car so specialist? I'm driving this
car fifteen years plus one day, I'm on the goddamn
highway and I'm driving my car. This s got over
two hundred thousand miles on it, and so I'm driving.
I'm in the left lane, I'm in the fast lane,
and I see this motherfucking truck with a U haul
hitch on it, and I'm just minding my business and
all of a sudden, I see the hitch start to sway,

(02:28:17):
and I'm like, in my mind, this is reaction time,
because in a split second, this.

Speaker 2 (02:28:21):
Hitch came off of the fucking truck.

Speaker 5 (02:28:24):
And now I got to use all of my instinct
to try and get as far away from this shit
as possible because it's coming straight for the passenger side.

Speaker 2 (02:28:31):
Of my accurate legend. I tried my best to.

Speaker 5 (02:28:34):
Get away, but this shit battle round battle, round to
living shit out of shit, right, So Luckily, I'm okay,
I had the seat belt on, I.

Speaker 2 (02:28:41):
Could pull over to the side, but my car is total.

Speaker 5 (02:28:45):
So fast forward about two months later, I'm trying to
get the shit fixed and Accurate. The company knows nothing
about this crash, but they wanted to use Pimping all
Over the World the song in one of their Accurate
commercials to promote.

Speaker 2 (02:28:58):
A new movie. I'm sorry, No, I did you just crashed?
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (02:29:01):
Accurate wanted to use the Pipping all Over the World
song to promote one of their commercials. So they invite
me out because we cleared the Pipping all Over the
World song for their commercial, and they have an auto
show in Detroit, and so I go to to the
auto show and they're showing us the new for GT
and all this other stuff. They know nothing about my crash.
So at the end, the company goes upstairs and they're

(02:29:22):
having a meeting, and they say, do you want to
say something on the microphone? And I'm like, no, I
don't know what I'm gonna say. I'm just happy to
be here. So I go up on the mic and
I don't have a speech prepared or nothing, and I'm
talking to all the executives.

Speaker 2 (02:29:33):
And CEOs of the company Accurate.

Speaker 5 (02:29:35):
The only thing that came to my mind was this
is how passionate I am about at my Accurate legend,
and how much I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:41):
I just got an accident.

Speaker 5 (02:29:43):
You all hits, just a test from a fucking truck
battle round my shit, and believe it or not, how
much I have to pay for the damages.

Speaker 2 (02:29:49):
It's worth more than the actual car rig right now.

Speaker 5 (02:29:53):
So I just and then I came down from the
podium and all the motherfucking top CEOs came up to
me and said.

Speaker 2 (02:29:59):
We want to te take your car and redo the
whole damn thing.

Speaker 5 (02:30:03):
We want to take that ship, redo the tires, the inside,
the fucking the sound system, the engine, the every like
the outside candy paint. They took my car and they
redid everything, and I still drive that ship till this day.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
Let's make some noise for people to people are achrol.
I ain't gonna lie. I met my wife, she had
an achor. We gotta start showing love that that Japanese made.
They take their time.

Speaker 4 (02:30:39):
Japanese say goal. That means they got a battery operated. Yeah,
I'm sorry, that's a watch ship.

Speaker 5 (02:30:46):
They still Japanese made right. Yeah, Honda, Honda exactly, Honda accurate.
Same same people, so same people, so fast and furious.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Who gave you that call? It was John Singleton.

Speaker 5 (02:31:03):
Oh you said that, But you know what, I'm glad
you asked that because I was on tour with Eminem
at the time. This was after the Outcast tour. So
I was on tour with Eminem and I got a flaw,
a slight flaw. Yeah, So I got a call. I'm
about to go on stage in twenty minutes. I get
a call from my agent saying John Singleton wants you
to put yourself on camera to try out and read

(02:31:23):
these lines for too fast, too furious.

Speaker 2 (02:31:26):
I'm like, man, what the fuck is what?

Speaker 5 (02:31:28):
I'm about to go on stade Like, I'm concentrated on
killing this crowd right now. So we get a camera together,
because of course you got all type of production people backstage, no,
none of that shit. I'm looking at the lines and
I'm like, Okay, I gotta come up and try and
make this care. Okay, let me get in character, let
me read these lines, go through it a couple of times.
Now we're like twelve minutes before show time.

Speaker 2 (02:31:47):
Fuck it. Just put me on camera.

Speaker 5 (02:31:49):
This is the best they gonna get right now, because
the motherfuckers like we need the shit by tomorrow. So
I put myself on camera, go out kill the stage.
The next day, I'm not thinking I got the shit
because I'm like, ain't no way ahead, Like I rushed
the ship out of this putting.

Speaker 2 (02:32:01):
Myself on tape. Nigga called me. It was like, you
got the part. The rest is history, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (02:32:12):
Now I'm sitting in my crib one day. I don't
know if it's Netflix or whatever, but you on a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:32:18):
Of teaper just come up end of the road. Yeah,
click that ship. Your niggas had me crying. Really, yeah,
I ain't like the white boys trying to get that
jall the white boys trying to get that jall. You
was like, get in the call. Yeah, yeah, you in
the car.

Speaker 4 (02:32:38):
I'm trying to think it's that cry worthy though, I
don't know if it was cry word?

Speaker 2 (02:32:42):
Can you let me sure? You can't let me cry?
Let me cry?

Speaker 6 (02:32:45):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (02:32:45):
All right, Okay, I'm crying.

Speaker 6 (02:32:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:32:46):
I've been ship spent some ship. I'm looking I've been
through some ship.

Speaker 5 (02:32:53):
Hey, you know what I apologize Joey motion is validated,
and uh, I can't believe that I tried to.

Speaker 2 (02:33:01):
Do that to you.

Speaker 4 (02:33:02):
Let me just tell you something. It's how good you
and Latifa are actors.

Speaker 2 (02:33:08):
I didn't look at y'all like I knew y'all and
I know both of y'all's dope, and I looked I
felt so sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:33:15):
I was like, why is the white people bothering them?

Speaker 5 (02:33:20):
That means the world of me, just because that's our
biggest goal. Is anyone in hip hop to not look
at us hip hop artist in the movie period.

Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
That's that's the biggest thing. Goddamn the world. I mean
that means the world.

Speaker 4 (02:33:34):
But watched that movie and I was like, holy Moly,
brock of moly, But that's that's that's in me in
my opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:33:42):
That's what I couldn't do.

Speaker 4 (02:33:44):
Was like I couldn't like identify those characters that I
couldn't relate to.

Speaker 2 (02:33:48):
But for for me, for you, you're a real actor.
To me, thank you man. You can actually do whatever
the fuck you want to do. Bro that crash sh it.

Speaker 5 (02:34:01):
It fucked me up for that to be my first
official movie and you in there with Don Cheetle like
we said, Terrence Howard, Sandra Bullock, Brendan Fraser, Lorenz Tate,
who out of Watchington, fucking minutes to Society and all
these other things. It was nothing but a list extreme
actors in that movie.

Speaker 2 (02:34:19):
And here I am, this nigga, you.

Speaker 5 (02:34:20):
Know, fresh off of Chicken and Beer album, and it
was intimidating, but I knew I had to step up
to the god damn play.

Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
So I think that changed things for me, man. And
like I said, that's why I take it so serious.

Speaker 4 (02:34:31):
And you had a Chicken and Beer in the airport,
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
Bo, it's in Lax now too.

Speaker 5 (02:34:36):
So it's in Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson and in Lax Airports
Chicken and Beer restaurant for Chuggle.

Speaker 2 (02:34:42):
Check that out.

Speaker 5 (02:34:43):
Than Jackson, you said, Jackson, Hartsfield Jackson. That's Atlanta Hartsfield
Jackson Airport and jack Maynor Jackson. So it's Hartfield but shocking.

Speaker 4 (02:34:55):
We know you don't want to shine, but can you
sit down for us for one second?

Speaker 2 (02:34:58):
Shot, Joco, please here, come.

Speaker 4 (02:35:00):
On, shot, please for one second. I mean for me,
not not not not for the world, for you, for me,
for me, you know, And you got young nigga mumas praid.

Speaker 2 (02:35:19):
For camera purposes. You're gonna have to go like this,
my brother, but you gotta do that. You can't do that.
There you go. Now, you just got to face this.
Used to this, I'm used to this year. I know
how it goes. Now.

Speaker 4 (02:35:32):
I just want to say something Shot, because you're one
of the greatest people I ever met in life.

Speaker 1 (02:35:41):
And what I would say, what you kind of alluded to,
is that there's energies in the world, and we come
from a lot of different background and we have people
that are intentional or we have intentional enemies that use
our culture against us. Right they use what we've done,

(02:36:04):
where we've come from, who we are, the neighborhoods, the
people we associate with, against us. So we have to
be very clear about who we are and whether that's
our existence or our experience.

Speaker 2 (02:36:18):
I tell any young person what you're going through is
not who you are. And so at that point, if you.

Speaker 1 (02:36:24):
Can have integrity in any situation when we talk in
long term, we're watching a lot going on right now,
and you can only give me the grace and the
benefit of the belief in me based upon my integrity
through the situations and the years we've known each other,
because if I'd showed you another person, you'd have been like.

(02:36:45):
So when we look at and we've talked about this
a couple of times, and he's called me and just
been like, thank you, And I'm like, what are you
thinking me for? I thank him more than I'm a
loan for the ride. Yeah, I can't do something if
something is not there. I can't make something out of nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:37:00):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (02:37:01):
Just thank you for keeping me in the space and
the mindset of which I am.

Speaker 1 (02:37:06):
He had to navigate trap music, he had to navigate
all of the other stuff to just be who he was,
and it wasn't always the cool thing. But his integrity now,
even in that situation, it's paying off for him long term.

Speaker 2 (02:37:21):
So if I would tell anybody youth, even old.

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
People, when we look at what we're dealing with and
were getting and we're trying to age gracefully, our integrity
comes in play when we start thinking about ten twenty
thirty years later and we see a lot of people
being attacked for what they did ten twenty thirty years
ago earlier, right, and we know what's right even when

(02:37:45):
it's cool hip hop we lived a life.

Speaker 2 (02:37:48):
You know what I'm saying, Drink the hood, travel the world,
just do it. So I appreciate the grace that was
given to me.

Speaker 5 (02:38:00):
Who I'm talking You're good, But you know, because I
was gonna say that, let me just say what's so
special about this podcast? And y'all are so used to
it right now that you might be to a degree desensitized.
But what I noticed is the passion that comes from
both of y'all, man, Like you can't fake when you
look at somebody's eyes when they're asking certain questions and

(02:38:21):
all of this ship is just so much passion, and
that it's very hard to be able to transfer that
when someone is looking on a fucking screen as opposed
to being here. What I'm saying is, you two motherfuckers
do very well at letting that ship transfer through the
fucking screen of the passion and the love that y'all have.

(02:38:42):
And that's what makes Drinking Chaps so goddamn special.

Speaker 7 (02:38:47):
You say.

Speaker 4 (02:38:50):
From the beginning, him, Jeff, they had your fucking back, bro,
Like I can't lie to you.

Speaker 2 (02:38:58):
I saw that shot from the beginning. Always, we always,
we all got each other's back. Yeah, that's why it's
so beautiful years and counting, baby, Yeah, that shit is
so beautiful. Man.

Speaker 4 (02:39:09):
What is what is something that you regret it? What
is what is somebody had the chance to work with
and you didn't have.

Speaker 2 (02:39:15):
We were just talking about, like the whole Doctor Dre.

Speaker 5 (02:39:16):
I wouldn't even call it regret because there's still a
chance for the ship to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:39:20):
It's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (02:39:20):
Yeah, yeah, but I uh, that's somebody I definitely want
to work with. When we were talking about the whole
Death Row versus Bad Boy thing, which is the one
of the hardest questions y'all asked me tonight, I love it,
and I just talked to I just thought about like
my experience as a kid growing up and me gravitating
towards the sonics of what Doctor Dre does and going
as far as wondering how this nigga got that ship

(02:39:42):
to sound that amazing. But that's somebody I would love
it to work with. And the hit Man and Bad
Boy they sound amazing as well. Easy More be all
of the ship that Biggie did.

Speaker 2 (02:39:55):
I haven't.

Speaker 4 (02:39:56):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (02:39:56):
That's the SB twelve love right there. We're doing that.
Come on, easy mob be let's get alog. Yeah, hell yeah,
let's go.

Speaker 5 (02:40:04):
He's done a record with Biggie Posts Post and Tupac
Post Yeah Post. Because I'm young, Jay, Hell.

Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (02:40:15):
That's like rights to retirement, not not. You know, you
know I'm trying to never retire.

Speaker 2 (02:40:22):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (02:40:23):
But what I'm trying to say is I don't have
the accolades. And I've been in this game twenty six years.

Speaker 2 (02:40:29):
I'm saying that you got motherfucking drink chances, this ship.
That's a whole nother life. But no, come on, bro,
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (02:40:34):
But but what I'm trying to tell you is I
want to give your flowers my brother.

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
I got the mother you know I received. No, no, No,
That's why you're here.

Speaker 4 (02:40:46):
You know, it's because because I'm being honest, Ludle, you're
one of the greatest of our coach.

Speaker 2 (02:40:54):
Absolutely wow.

Speaker 4 (02:40:56):
And the fact that and the fact that it's known,
the fact is that you can be into six seven
different everyone respect you, from the gangs to us, to
the people who wear backpacks, to the people who take shots,
to people who shoot people, to people who look at

(02:41:20):
people who's stealing, to people who actually steal.

Speaker 2 (02:41:24):
You respected in every genre.

Speaker 5 (02:41:27):
I'm a culmination of my environment, man, and it's all
of those things.

Speaker 2 (02:41:30):
But thank you man. I'm telling you when you have
to know that, you have.

Speaker 4 (02:41:34):
To know that that's what and hip hop, that's what
the fuck we strive to be, is accepted in all
genres because you know why, there's five elements of hip hop, right,
so you could either breakdance, you either graffiti, you either rap,
you either DJ. It's not people that's accepted in all
those genres and that's what you're you are.

Speaker 2 (02:41:57):
Thank you, bro.

Speaker 6 (02:42:00):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:42:01):
No like like, look, I'm not playing around. That's what
you a hold on.

Speaker 4 (02:42:06):
You gotta sit, don't count.

Speaker 5 (02:42:11):
All the way believe And you said you wanted me
to be one of the first motherfuckers on here.

Speaker 2 (02:42:14):
Now I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:42:17):
Because I know we're Virgo brothers.

Speaker 7 (02:42:19):
I know we.

Speaker 4 (02:42:22):
Were all that, but that that takes away everything from
who you are a as a real like artist. Like
I'm gonna say I said it, I said it earlier.
Who the fuck was jogging me earlier? It was Jo
That's why he said no. And I was like, that

(02:42:44):
was the difference between the versus battle was Lula was
seasoned you were seasoned with Kevin Lowns, seasoned with Leoll
We were foul people.

Speaker 2 (02:42:59):
What I mean by that is.

Speaker 4 (02:43:02):
They sent you on a road that whole time, and
they made you know how to fucking perform a show.

Speaker 2 (02:43:10):
Yeah, they did all of us.

Speaker 4 (02:43:11):
So again, I'm sorry, and Nei's my brother again. But
when I seen because because versus we were just sitting
back home and we were just watching everything, and I
sat back as soon as I seen your face. You
made that face earlier. God, we got it on a film.
Now you made that face. I said, this, motherfucker christ.

Speaker 2 (02:43:39):
I know, like I know, and I seen him and he.

Speaker 5 (02:43:45):
Were playing, we was playing Nigga. Joe Budden said the
same thing he did. I didn't know that to a degree.
He said the same ship.

Speaker 2 (02:43:53):
What did he say? Come on? Please? Pretty much what
you said? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I saw your face.

Speaker 5 (02:43:57):
I didn't even know I was making a face like
this ship is. It's great to hear from a different perspective.

Speaker 2 (02:44:03):
S And that is my brother. To just just be clear,
I love Nellie's my brother too.

Speaker 4 (02:44:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:44:07):
I looked Louter's gonna snub somebody tonight. What you're gonna
snuff your own crew. I don't even know. That's how
crazy you.

Speaker 5 (02:44:26):
That's why I'm okay taking the jazz bro because none
of them are death blows. They are It's okay. Somebody
got to be the person that that takes the jazz. Now,
when I decide to hit back, then it might be unfair.

Speaker 2 (02:44:39):
It just depends on hit back. You know why you
can't back? Why can't I hit back? Nor?

Speaker 5 (02:44:43):
I need to hear this why it is good? I
really need to hear. It's been like fifteen years inspiration.

Speaker 4 (02:44:51):
You know why you are inspiration to the people that
we say, you know what, this guy said this, but
we don't want respond because you know why I booted it.

Speaker 2 (02:45:02):
The you're the good guy.

Speaker 5 (02:45:04):
Now you understand why I try to take the high
road and always I'm cool because my core is strong,
and I'm okay with taking these jazz because at the
end of the day, I hope whatever it is that
these motherfuckers that take jabs at me are trying to accomplish,
I hope that they've accomplished that shit. You know why,
because it has not hurt or put a dent in
my legacy or me in any fucking way. So I

(02:45:26):
allow them to do that because at the end of
the day, I still love these motherfuckers. There's still a
certain amount of history that we have with each other
that if I stand on a certain amount of morals
and integrity and just love. I haven't come to a
point where I'm wanting to do tit for tat and
bicker and babbling, go back and forth with motherfuckers, because
when I see you in person, it ain't shit like

(02:45:49):
what the fuck you was just talking about on camera.
It's totally different. Yes, it's a dichotomy that I haven't
fully understood yet, and I don't think that I'm gonna
understand it one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (02:46:01):
You're talking about being real.

Speaker 5 (02:46:02):
This whole industry is built off motherfuckers saying shit on camera,
but then when they see you in person, it's something
totally different. And I can say that I either am
immature or too mature because I haven't fully grasped and
understood that yet. I'm still giving my fuckers the benefit
of the doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:46:20):
That's my problem. That's either my gift or my curse.
That's what I'm saying. God damn, I'm just being real.
I'm smoking another blood sorry, I'm just being real. Let
me expand on.

Speaker 6 (02:46:32):
Something that Nord was saying though, and just coming from
the perspective of being from Miami, being a mixtape DJ
out of Miami. One of the things that we was
like from where I come from Miami, like the hip
hop community I come from is like the early nineties,
and we only wanted lyrical sensibility coming out of the South, right,

(02:46:57):
That's what we strived for because everything was man in
New York, right, and we were emulating that. But we
wanted to be representative of the South.

Speaker 2 (02:47:06):
And you did that. Dungeon family did that. Outcast did that.
You did that.

Speaker 4 (02:47:12):
That's what I want you to know that you were.
You did that to the highest ability. That's huge. Thank you, bro, huge, huge,
real thank you man.

Speaker 2 (02:47:22):
When I said it, hip hop so much, I'm just.

Speaker 5 (02:47:25):
As passionate with my answers and receiving this love as
y'all are like saying it.

Speaker 2 (02:47:30):
I'm being real because you deserve it. I stayed moving, man, moving,
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:47:37):
I just me and honest man, you your crew. I
was saying this to everyone here. You know, pretty much
everyone that was here. I spoke to them before you
came in. I was just like, this is a person
I wanted to like give the flowers tubes, y'all. It's

(02:47:58):
because y'all, really, y'all, really, you really lived this ship
really out, like not just because I drink on drink Champ.

Speaker 2 (02:48:12):
Drinks. Let's go, let's go, Let's let's go. Jamie shots Jamie. No, no, no,
right here.

Speaker 4 (02:48:20):
That means you didn't take it because looks is done. Okay, okay,
he's right.

Speaker 5 (02:48:25):
Her job is to refill my shots after I take him.

Speaker 2 (02:48:27):
I mean, I'm five, Let me drink and shot. Let
me just say something. Everybody put that cups of their
empty shots up. We can save the camera. Please, it's
in the same shots. Watch this. You can't fake this ship.
Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:48:50):
He wins, he wins, he wins. You say that to
the camera, please, yes, ludle wins. When's the camera? Yes,
little winds. I guess what I win because Lud's win
and blut the winds. That's the way it works.

Speaker 2 (02:49:04):
You remember when you told us about GK jops. Yes,
it was in Toronto. I wanted to Yes, Yes, was
that Soo soo this mother drink restaurant? Yeah, he's that
Soto so drink restaurant. Drake, pull up. You likes giving
food is amazing, Food is amazing.

Speaker 5 (02:49:22):
I love you drinks about drinks had he said, I'm
sort I love food.

Speaker 2 (02:49:26):
At the bottle of red ones in the bottle of red, Nigga, cheers,
I got classic. You get another shot? I am aoutright.
He don't want me to? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes,
I remember that give you don't got about that ship? No,
no to your ship, to your ship she got come on,

(02:49:50):
you got on braces. I don't drink that ship ship.

Speaker 5 (02:50:02):
Hey, I'm gonna need you to mold this and put
it on a goddamn man somewhere. I want to compare
myself to all other artists that come up here. I
want to see how many shots motherfuckers take. Okay, so,
so who drank the most? Yeah yo, yeah, yeah yeah,
hey man hands down to Tony yea yea, all respect,

(02:50:23):
all respect while.

Speaker 2 (02:50:25):
Went into respect. Hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
That's crazy. But put me up there with the greats.
Yeah that's all I have. Putting you up in New Grace,
Holy morning, more than I got, Bigga. What time is
it right now?

Speaker 8 (02:50:39):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (02:50:40):
You gotta go do it. I'm not not even I
want to.

Speaker 4 (02:50:43):
Say, but I really have to show BROT I got
one more question because the question is.

Speaker 2 (02:50:54):
One more drink or is it? Oh my drink? One more,
one more drink, one more drink, one more drink. Ship
that was with me and T t o.

Speaker 4 (02:51:05):
B.

Speaker 2 (02:51:06):
Yeah, one more drink. Tone and Polke produced that ship.
Did you know that produce one more Drink? Yeah? That
I don't even put that together with T paint.

Speaker 5 (02:51:17):
Paint I'm sure, I'm pretty sure he did. And then
uh Kat Williams was in that video.

Speaker 2 (02:51:22):
That ship was just fun man. Yeah. I remember Kanye
being in my home.

Speaker 5 (02:51:26):
Studio listening to that album because I'm sure we worked
on something for it, and he heard that out of
all this other stuff that I was going to put
up for singles, he was like, that's it right there.
That's the fucking one and one more Drink did what
it had to do. That should be the Drink Champs
theme song. What the Shire were talking about right now?

Speaker 2 (02:51:45):
Version of it. We can if they just give me
a little bit to remix it for us. Yeah, you
got to make the beat. We'll make it happen if
they give me another check, like they gave me. Look
at us up right now, man, okay, you gonna make
us go what a good checks and we spoke about
lovers and friends. That was my last question. But Luda.

Speaker 4 (02:52:06):
Shaka, I want to look at you brothers, face to face,
man to man and tell y'all, thank y'all because not
for what you did tonight. Tonight was it's beautiful right
that has nothing to do it, but you did. And yeah,

(02:52:28):
your journey to be here, it's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (02:52:33):
Man. Every hip hop artist.

Speaker 4 (02:52:39):
Should be praised because you know what, God bless me
for saying it like this, what I'm gonna say it.
A McDonald's worker, after he finishes McDonald's shift, he takes
off his m his yellow shit, and he can go
return back to regular life. An artist who doesn't make it,

(02:53:05):
or who makes it a little bit, can never turn
back to regular life, even if he doesn't make it.
You know what the people say to him, bitch ass nigga.
You tried that, you tried to be better than us.
But when an artist that makes it and tries to
do that and then goes to that level, that hate

(02:53:30):
is so crazy, that hate is so tremendous.

Speaker 2 (02:53:38):
You summing up. Every nigga that ever took a shot
at Ludacris ever in life. You literally some of it up.

Speaker 5 (02:53:44):
I'm talking about motherfuckers that I fuck with people. I
don't fuck with everything. I should have answered it that way.
Let me put it in suppose I do it.

Speaker 2 (02:53:52):
What do you think the opposite of love is hate? No,
not at all. The opposite of hate? Oh yeah, Love
and hate is the same emotion from a different perspective.
What's the opposite opp of love is indifference? When I
don't give a fuck about you? Wow? Fact, I don't
care when you mean nothing to me. People hate you.

(02:54:16):
They love you so much they'd rather you argue with them.

Speaker 1 (02:54:19):
They rather engage them in negative action just so they
could feel something right. When people don't give a fuck
about you, when I don't care about you, that's the
opposite of love.

Speaker 2 (02:54:29):
Indifference. Wow, that's some real shit. Take that with you.

Speaker 5 (02:54:37):
That's why I say most of the shit where niggas
have issues with me, it's not what they're telling you
on camera. It's something totally different.

Speaker 2 (02:54:43):
They love them. I wouldn't even go as far as
to say that they love you.

Speaker 5 (02:54:47):
I would say that it's something totally different that they're
not telling you and I have enough respect that we
have if we have a history together.

Speaker 2 (02:54:55):
Fuck anybody I don't have a history with. We can
go toe to toe.

Speaker 5 (02:54:58):
You say something about me on the record, I'm hitting back.
But anybody that I have a respect for, I'm gonna
I'm not gonna do the same ship that you're doing.
I'm gonna try and take the higher road. I'm gonna
let you try and get that ship off.

Speaker 4 (02:55:12):
Has there ever been a situation where that aspired where
someone you feel like someone came at you and.

Speaker 2 (02:55:17):
You was like, let me relax. It happens all the time.
That's what I'm saying. It happens.

Speaker 5 (02:55:23):
It's all towards what you just said, though you know
what I'm saying, and it also happens in the same
sense of what he said.

Speaker 2 (02:55:28):
The opposite of motherfucking love is indifference.

Speaker 5 (02:55:31):
So if you still got my name in your mouth
and you're still coming up with ship that we know
that's not the real answer. That's not indifference. That's a
certain that's a that's a it's a section of love.
It's basically in the love category. That's all I'm saying,

(02:55:52):
because guess.

Speaker 4 (02:55:53):
What I love these niggas, man, falls, I love I
love yeah, you know what I mean, the niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:56:00):
I love them, like.

Speaker 5 (02:56:01):
Wow, absolutely. Like I said, I pray for If that
ain't love, I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (02:56:06):
I don't pray for my niggas though, you don't do that, no,
fuck them, you got, I don't pray for him. I'll
be like, all right, maybe me and you agreed, well,
pray for him.

Speaker 2 (02:56:19):
Fuck him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a different, very real.
I'm a different Listen. I love yo.

Speaker 4 (02:56:26):
But Shaka, thank you man so much, Aluda, thank thank
you so much man, because this is real man, this
is beautiful, and I want you to know that this
is your platform. Shaka, you can, you know, come over
here and promote your yellow shoelaces, you know, anytime, like anytime,

(02:56:53):
because you know what, what's crazy about it is there's
so many people are tradition of how they start promoting things,
and the thing about it is that's not what we are.

Speaker 2 (02:57:05):
We are just us us.

Speaker 4 (02:57:10):
Just come over here, get your briefcase, have some fun,
let's have some let's let's let's just do what the
fun we gotta do, because this is now hip hop journalism.
I've just seen Elliott Wilson. Oh I've seen your eyes. Okay, Well,
Elliot Wilson posted sexy rad no no no, what Nicki

(02:57:35):
Minaj and then he said this hip hop journalism and.

Speaker 2 (02:57:38):
He was a hater. That was that was.

Speaker 4 (02:57:44):
I didn't see it, but I know Ni, that's not.
It's dope to me too. But the point is, that's
not what we're doing. What we're doing is we're alluding
hip hop. That's what this is, what this is what
we're about.

Speaker 2 (02:58:00):
I don't know what everyone else, it's only about saluting
hip hop. We're about saluting hip hop.

Speaker 4 (02:58:07):
But continuing to make sure hip hop goes to that
fucking next level.

Speaker 2 (02:58:13):
And Luda.

Speaker 11 (02:58:15):
Shaka, all you guys, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, all you guys, bro,
you are the definition of loyalty.

Speaker 4 (02:58:26):
You're a definition and respect. You are a definition of
what started follow us. It's what ended. And not to
say y'all legacy is ended. I'm not saying that. But
what I'm saying is so fared for y'all to still
continue to be together. It's something that we all have
to salute. Every man here I seem them forget it.

Speaker 2 (02:58:53):
And y'all continue to be here mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (02:59:03):
Here and by the way, I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna.
I got on boo Gary.

Speaker 2 (02:59:13):
On that note, Nigga, what time is it?

Speaker 6 (02:59:19):
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r E and dj e FN from Interval Presents executive
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Speaker 2 (02:59:35):
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Speaker 6 (02:59:36):
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