Real Friends Classic: The Pilot My First Day

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Donald Donald. If you're not recording, I am going to
squeeze your balls.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well I've been recording since for like three minutes in
seventeen seconds, so there, okay, no ball squeeze. Here we go, Sorr,
hello to me.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello everyone?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Three? Wait, three two.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Here's some stories about Shure. We made about a bunch
of you said, here's a story, so YadA YadA.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Here Hello everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
My name is Zach braf Hi, I'm Tonald Faison.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
And I can't believe it. But guess what, guys, We're
gonna do a scrubs rewatch podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, that's exactly what we're doing. Dude, your voice changed
completely all of a sudden. We were all talking normal,
I know my podcast started. We're like, hey everyone, it
is I.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I got nervous and I I felt like I should
sound like a radio broadcaster. But no, okay, I'm back
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
There we go. This is pretty exciting, IM.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I gotta tell you, I'm very excited that we've been
talking about this for a long time. We've been trying
to figure it out. I've been teasing social media, as
have you been.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh, you've been teasing social media a little bit more
than I have.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
But I know because I wanted to get people tittilated. Donald,
I wanted to titillate the masses.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, let's thank iHeartRadio first of all for putting this
and helping us Pat Desault.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
We had to figure out who to do it, and
we found a perfect partner with iHeart, and we want
to thank them. And also we want to thank the
fans across the universe, because I just think it's to
be crazy for us not to start with saying we
wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for the just
incredibly loyal, amazing fan base we have around the earth,
right Donal.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Thank you very much, all of you who watched the
show and who are listening to this podcast right now. Wow,
we appreciate you so much. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, thank you. I mean, this has been so many
years of love for this show. And you know it's funny.
I'm sure Donald, you have this experience too, where people
come up to the street like I'm sure this is
so annoying, but I just want to say I love
the show, and I'm like I'm always like, it's not annoying.
Are you kidding me? That's like the best comment you
can give us.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, it's annoying when you're eating food, maybe eating food,
and somebody comes up to you and they're like, sorry
to bother you. You know, at first, why are you
saying sorry to bother you? You're not sorry to bother me.
You meant to bother me at that moment, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, Well, just guys, if you're gonna see Donald in public,
don't do it while he's eating.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Maybe just or with my kids. I don't play that.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh yeah, all right, we'll just wait outside the restaurant
for me in a dark in a dark alley.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, that's how I prefer people to approach me, in
a dark galley.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I also, my only request is not online at the
pharmacy because I'm usually sick and I don't want to.
I once had a guy ask me to sign his
box of condoms at a pharmacy, and uh, I just no.
I was like, dude, this is weird. I don't want
to sign it. Anyway. We've already digressed. We love our

(03:00):
fans and we're so glad you're listening. So the rough
plan is that we're just gonna talk through episodes of Scrubs.
We're going to start with with season one. Obviously, today
we're gonna talk about the pilot and we're going to
just kind of tell stories and go through it scene
by scene and just kind of tell anecdotes and stuff,
and then eventually we want to have guests on we're
going to Today we're going to take a very first
fan question, which is thrilling. Joelle figured out how to

(03:23):
do that. She's amazing.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
We're really excited about this. We should start. Do you
remember the name of the pilot what the first episode was?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Wait, I just want to tell them one more thing.
So we were going to do this in person, but then,
of course, because of this COVID insanity, the good people
of iHeart have figured out a way for a donalin
Us to do it remotely. So we're he's we're looking
at each other over zoom, and he's in his closet,
which is freaking hilarious because I guess that's what the
only place you could hide from your kids.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, well, yeah, they're downstairs. We put on Captain underpants
so they'll be quiet for a bit. But if you
hear someone yelling or screaming, it's probably going to be
my on Rocco or my daughter Wilder.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm going to take a picture of this to post
on the interwebs because it's very adorable.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Right, well, let me get my let me get a
fresh pose.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Then, oh my god, you're so cute. All right, So
Donald has children and a wife and everyone's in quarantine.
So he's in his closet recording and we're looking at
each other. So we're gonna do it like this, and
for the foreseeable future, every week we'll be coming to
you talking about the next episode of the show, and
we'll hope that you'll watch it along with us, because

(04:30):
that's kind of the idea if you if you watch
that episode, and then we'll shoot the shit about that episode.
I just watched it. I got very nostalgic. Did you
did you feel nostalgia?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, yeah, just how young we were. First of all, Oh,
we were so young.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Were so young. I didn't remember how young I was.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I was twenty six at the time and I'm forty five,
turning forty six this year, and it was that was
twenty years ago. So you know, watching a pilot for
the first I really felt like it was brand new,
Like I remembered some things but other things, I was like,
I don't remember any of this, you know. I remember

(05:09):
certain poses that John c McGinley made, like when he
put his hand on the back of his head and
stuff like that. I remember being like, Wow, that's interesting
that he chose to do that right now, and as
the show goes on it became his doctor Cox stuff.
But while we while watching it for the first time,
I was like, Oh my god, this is where it
all originated. This is where this is where this came from.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
There were so many moments I had while watching it
too where I was like thinking, first of all, we
can't start off even even five minutes of this without
talking about Bill Lawrence, who is the creator of the show,
the reason we're all here talking. And I was just
amazed watching it how much Bill got it it's like
twenty three minutes long, and how much he was able
how much storytelling and character introduction. Pilots are always hard

(05:54):
because you know, you have the showrunner creator has such
a hard job to introduce so many characters and do
it in twenty three minutes, and it's just amazing how
much how many characters are introduced, how many storylines and
like love interests, are introduced. How much is packed into
one episode?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, that's some of those. I have questions for you,
as a matter of fact, just on you know, how
the whole pilot came together and everything.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well wait, let's start with that. Sorry, I don't interrupt you,
but let's start with cal I feel like we should
tell our stories about auditioning because that's.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, yeah, that was my first question for you. So
when we first started the pilot, I had already done
quite a few things, Like I was in clueless. I
had done remember the Titans already waiting to exhale. I
was guest starring on Felicity at the time, right, and
this was a pilot that came up for me, and
I was like, yeah, sure, I'll go out for it.
I'd love to go out for it. Anybody wants to
be on a show. And it wasn't until after I

(06:46):
auditioned for it and got it that everybody was like,
all my I remember all of my agents being like,
this is like the number one pilot of the season.
Everyone wanted to be a part of this, and you
booked it. And now I remember being like, holy cow.
I was just looking at it as let me get
another job because I got kids to feet, you know
what I mean. You were completely different. You were like
I mean, I know you had been in some things
and stuff like that, but you hadn't even really popped yet.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah. I'd done little things, you know. I'd been in
an indie. I was in an indie, A couple of indies,
one called the Broken Hearts Club that went to sun Dance,
but I was still waiting tables. I directed that, by
the way, a now superstar famous person named Greg Borlani.
It was his very first film and he he gave
me one of my first early big breaks being in
that movie. And I was a waiter at a French

(07:28):
Vietnamese restaurant in Beverly Hills, com and people who you know,
if you saw Garden State, my film, I'm kind of
spoofing that in the beginning when I'm working with a
tunic on and waiting on horrible people. But anyway, I
was waiting there and people would come from having Broken
Carts Club was in the theater, and people would come
from the theater and they'd say for dessert to the

(07:50):
restaurant and they'd be like, we just saw your movie,
and I'd be like, oh, cool, thank you, thank you
for going, and they'd be like you were great, and
I go, oh, thank you, thank you so much. Let
me tell you about our specials. And it was like,
only in Hollywood can you go see a movie and
then have the star of the movie wait on you
for dessert.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
But how did you feel about that? Were you ever
embarrassed by it?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I was so embarrassed. I remember I would go to
like a general meeting in Hollywood, of these things called
general meetings where you kind of go and like you're
like bragging that, oh my my career is going so
well and we should really work together, and you're just
kind of schmoozing. And I remember I did one of
those and like it really went well, and I came
out feeling so good. And then that night I looked
down at one of my tables and the guy was
at the table, and I didn't I had left out

(08:31):
the part how I was still, you know, hustling and
waiting tables. But so you know, I got the audition.
I was waiting tables. I got the audition. Now my
story is a little funny because I went out first
for it in New York. I happened to be in
New York and I didn't prepare. It went so poorly.
I hadn't read the script. You know, not every audition

(08:52):
do you go in killing it. And I didn't do
a good job. And when I got back to La,
my agent said, look, they still can't find this guy
for the show. And it's really, like you said, everyone's
talking about it. This is like one of the hot
new shows of the season. You you I think you
could just go back in, like they won't even know,
like your audition, I don't even They were like, I
don't even know if your tape made it from New York,

(09:13):
like because no one was no one, no one even
responded to whatever the fuck you did. So I this time,
I took it seriously. I memorized that I worked on it.
I practiced a lot, and then when I went in.
I remember the cast director Brett Right. I was yeah,
he looked up at me like, oh okay, like with
a smile. And then it was off to the races.

(09:34):
And then I met Bill and I worked with Bill,
and and then you know, I literally auditioned six times
before I got it, and finally my final audition was
for the network and it was down between four of us,
and I read with Sarah and I you know, I
had comitten six times. I wore the exact same outfit

(09:55):
every single time because I was so superstitious and and
I could really tell that Bill was rooting for me.
He he made it known to me that he wanted
me to get it. But there were a lot of
you know, people that were more famous than me, that
were that were I mean that were famous, that were
up for it. So I couldn't I couldn't leave. I
got it. But anyway, so tell me, tell me about
your audition.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Brother. So I auditioned for it. The first time I
auditioned for it. I don't know who was in the room,
to be honest with you. I just auditioned and they
were like, they want to bring you back. And then
I came back and I auditioned again, and this time
Bill was there. And I remember being like, okay, you know,
at this point in my career, it was like, I'm
just going to audition for things as many times as

(10:32):
I can until they say yes, you know what I mean,
or till they say no. And I remember they were like,
all right, look, you're going to test for this, but
they want you to go in for one more audition
before that, just to run lines with Bill and work
on the jokes and stuff. And I was like, yeah, absolutely.
The one thing I remembered to this day he still
liked this, if Bill wants the joke to work, he'll laugh.

(10:55):
Even if it fell flat, He'll still laugh. To give
you the confidence of yo, dude, that's the joke. That's
where the joke lands. Right.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So we went into the room and we're working on it,
and he's laughing at everything, and I'm like, oh, I'm
crushing it. And then after every take he'd be like,
all right, now, let's work on this beat. And I
remember it was him and Danny Rose at the time.
Danny Rose was another one of At.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
The time, he was Bill's assistant, but then he rose
up in the ranks and became a producer on the show.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Right, And so we did it, and then he was like,
all right, good luck tomorrow. And I was like all right, bet.
And so I went on the audition and I saw
a bunch of friends of mine auditioning, and Sarah was there,
and you know, we were there for about an hour
and a half, all of us testing in front of
the network, and I remember at one point, you know,

(11:47):
we're all sitting out there for a while and they
hadn't come out in a bit, and Bill comes out.
It's like, Donald, I need to talk to you real quick.
And I was like, oh, well, I guess I'm the
first person to go home. And he says, so, look,
your audition you probably could tell already, but you you
kind of fucked it up. So and so you know,

(12:09):
I want to give you another shot because the things
that I've seen you do, you just didn't do that
time in the room, And so if you could just
bring it down a little bit, and do you.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Agree with him? Did you think you did you agree
with them? And think like, oh shit, I was so nervous,
and He's right.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
No, I thought I was crushing it. I was doing
everything that we I thought I was doing everything that
we had done in the rehearsal right. So finally I
go in there and I remember toning everything down and
him being like perfect and then leaving and he sent
everybody home except for Sarah, myself and one other person.

(12:45):
And that night I found out I got the job. Wow,
you know what I mean? And you know when I
went in on the audition. I expected to see the
guy that he had kept. You know, it was me,
Sarah and this one guy, and we were like, holy cow,
I guess we got it right. And uh, I expected
to see the guy at the table read and you
walked in. I was like, that's not the same dude.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Wait, so I knew who you were, obviously, but because.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I loved I had not seen anything you were in.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
No, No, you wouldn't. I didn't mean to say that
you'd seen my two little indies. I just mean, like,
I guess I don't know what my question is. I
mean like you even seeing a picture of me, you
didn't even know anything about me.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
You just knew nothing about you. You knew what you knew.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
An unknown guy got the part at least right.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I feel like I remember what you wore to a
table read, though, I feel like you wore corduroy brown pants.
I couldn't believe that you would remember this and a
T shirt. And we met at the bar. While I
remember this, I.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Remember I was writing this down in my notes. First
of all, it was that Krista Miller's and Bill's old house.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
And Charlotte Lawrence had just been born.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Charlotte Lawrence was a baby, and we walked into I
remember it was a sunken living room and there was
a bar in the corner. And then you turned her
and were like, gave me this big smile and we
were like yeah, body like, and I was like, it
literally was love at first sight, right, I just felt
I was so nervous. If understand, I mean, I knew
you were obviously I knew John McGinley was. I had

(14:14):
met Sarah at my audition, but like I was, you
can imagine. I mean, we're all nervous no matter who
you are, but I was because because also people do
get fired after the table read, so you know you're like,
You're like, I mostly have it, but I really got
to make sure I keep it. And uh and then
I saw you and you were so warm and and
and I think we hugged.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think the first time, I know, we did.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Hug Yeah, the first time we met, we hugged.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well that's that's that was the That was the crazy.
The craziest thing was I remember not knowing who you
were and being like, all right, they were and Bill
was like, let's start the table read. And I remember
being nervous for myself. And then you started reading, and
all of a sudden, the jokes that I didn't see
in the script when I read it, all of a

(14:56):
sudden started to appear because you were knocking out knocking
it out of the and everybody was laughing and you know,
really excited. So when it was my time to come
and I was like, yeah, the energy was there, and
you know what I mean. I just remember being like,
holy cow, this kid is amazing. And I remember being
like this could actually turn into something. This is at

(15:18):
the table read. I remember being like, this could be
something special. My agents weren't lying when they told me
this was the one.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, yeah, man, I remember that special feeling too. I
also wanted to say that I when I drove home
from my test, I had a star Tech. I had
the Motorola star Tech.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
You remember that, Yeah, yeah, the two ways.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
No, No, the star Tech was the little flip phone,
the little black flip phone back in the day.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Oh I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Anyways, I had my little I had my little I
had my little flip phone and I put it on
the passenger seat as I was driving home from the
network test, and I'm just waiting to see if it
was gonna ring, and like, is my life about to
change substantially or not? And the phone rang. It was Bill.
He told me I got the part. And I was
just flipping out. I mean, I had no money. I

(16:03):
didn't have a dollar in my name. I you know,
I was living.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh dude, who are you telling? Man? I had kids.
I bought a house with all of this clueless money
that I had, And you know what I mean, I
thought I was going to be a baller. And I
remember having to call home and beg my mom for
money so I could get gas to go on these auditions.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh you know what I mean. Because I was broke,
my parents loaned me five thousand dollars to buy a
car out in La so I bought a car. I
bought a Nissan to forty SX. I remember that, which
did me really really well. And and then I was just,
you know, living off my waiters salary. But I got
the call from Bill. I freak out. I called my mom,
I called my dad, and then I called the manager

(16:42):
of the restaurant, who was amazingly supportive of me, and
she was she was an actress herself, and she was like,
I'm so happy for you congratulations and I was like, well,
I quit and she was like wait, wait, wait, I'll
never forget that. She was like, work tonight. I was
like what now. She's like, you have to work tonight
and I was like I do. She's like, babe, you

(17:03):
can't leave me hanging like that. You gotta work tonight.
I was like, I was like, oh, I'll work tonight.
And I just got I like I had hammered. People
were like waiting on me, like, you know, because it
was one of those restaurant where people were like really
do shee and like sir, and I'd be like, just
wait your turn, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was like.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Everybody, everybody calm down, all right, Yours Vietnamese food is
coming right on.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I remember after we shot the pilot, just to jump
ahead and having to wait for so long for the
show to get picked up, right and running into you
at a club and you being out of your mind blitzed.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's probably what happened. I could never get
into the club, like I went like and the classic
thing with like the red velvet ropes and like I
can't even picture like me being on line at the
club being like all right, I'm going out to a
nightclub tonight because I got some money in my pocket
and was like, I picture, I see like Donald going in,
like the guys, like the bouncers, like part the red

(17:56):
velvet ropes is Donald. Then his posse gets gets led
into the club, and then I get in and I
saw you. I remember, I remember the first night I
saw you, like out in the real world, and I
like screamed because I was like, dude, you.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Was so loud and he was so drunk. It was
so funny.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, I had to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So let's get let's get back to the Let's get
back to.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Let's talk about the pilot now. The first thing I
want to see about the pilot. The first thing I
noticed is that that's not the hospital right that the
pilot for Scrubs was filmed. We filmed technically in three spots.
The pilot was filmed in a Burbank hospital, and this
one that they show it in the exterior is actually
not even that. It's just a different hospital. But then

(18:35):
we shot the bulk of the series at a hospital
in Valley Village, which is now apartments. And then season nine,
which we'll have plenty of jokes about, was shot actually
on a back lot on stages, But the bulk of
the show, the one that that you all know and love,
was shot all inside a real hospital. And I'm sure

(18:56):
not everybody knows that.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
It was a real hospital. Remember the sound man saying
something about, you know, I think when we did the pilot,
I'm not sure if I'm not sure if it was
the pilot or the actual series, but I think it
was the pilot saying, you know what, I'm gonna set
up in this room because this is the room that
my father died in or something. Really, yeah, that's so dark.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Our dressing rooms, you know. You know you've seen a
lot of times on sets that people have trailers their
dressing rooms. Well, our dressing rooms were hospital rooms. For
for eight and a half years that we worked at
this hospital, we lived and did everything inside this hospital.
I mean, our dressingrooms were in the hospital, the makeup
rooms in the hospital, offices were in this hospital. The editing,

(19:38):
the writer's room, everything, all the other sets, like you know,
whether it was the inside of a bar or our apartment,
all those were built into this really disgusting ancient hospital.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay, so I want to talk about the first scene
where you wake up and it's time to that. Was
that a reshoot?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, it was not reshoot. I think it was done
like after the fact. Thing is probably one of the
last things we did. I do remember thinking that I
didn't think this was funny, this this whole shaving cream thing.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
It turned out to be really funny.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Well that's Bill. Bill turned it into something. I remember
thinking like, what, why would I be doing this? Why
would I, on my first day so nervous, be making
a shaving cream bra.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Or being like a warrior, a warrior.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Like how young I am. I'm just scrolling through because
I like to just reference it. But anyway, I didn't
think it was funny at the time, but then I
saw and I remember thinking, yeah, that was that.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Was clever, okay. And then the scene where you walk
into the hospital and the lady gives you all of
this energy about what's gonna happen today, et cetera, et cetera,
and then you not really knowing where to go.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, I mean, this was one thing I'll hear me
say over and over again was and Bill always said
this was like, there's no person better to play someone
young and in over their head than me. Because here
I was. I didn't know anything of I mean, it
was all method acting. I didn't know anything about starring
in a TV show. I didn't know anything about like
I mean, I knew I had some experience, but every
time I was playing the wide eyed guy walking around,

(21:11):
I was just being mean because I couldn't believe that
this was happening to me. You know, it was the
exact same life that I was living.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
You know what, speaking of wide eyed. Before we started
the pilot, they wanted us to all go on rounds
with doctors and stuff like that. Right I did that,
But right I did not. I opted out. I was like,
get the fuck out here. I'm not doing that shit.
I don't want to see any of this.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
But meanwhile I'm like, I'm like the diligent student who's like,
all right, send me out right.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I remember getting on the phone with the young lady
who was my contact that was going to take me
around on rounds, and her being like, so you're coming
down to night, and me being like, yeah about that. No,
I don't see myself ever doing this. If you could
just tell me some anecdotes, i'd be great.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
But yeah, I was the exact I was like the
good student.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I was like, did you see anything crazy? No?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
But I remember thinking was really inappropriate actually that she
was having me like go around, like to visit patients
with her, Like she she put a stethoscope around my
neck so I would look like legit, like I know,
it's kind of fucked up in hindsight, like I should
not have been doing that. But did she ever refer
to you like, no, not, because she she was just
treating me like I was like I was a medical student,

(22:18):
and she wasn't doing what she should have done, which
is being like, hey, is it okay there's someone who's
an actor researching apart. She wasn't doing that. I was
just going in and being like, hey, how's a guy's going.
And she'd kind of like and the people would be
like looking at her, and then they like they nod
to me, and I'm like I would just be nodding.
I remember, I was just I was just kind of
had like a serious nod on my face, like I

(22:38):
was listening and understanding what's going on. I want to
talk about the title sequence because that's the next thing
that comes up.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I was gonna ask you about that too, man, dude,
how much did you hate that until you saw it.
That's one of those things where I was like, this
is sucks. Man.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
It took for those of you who don't know, it's
a motion control camera, and it really took a long
time to do that, and at the time we didn't
know how cool it would look, so it was like
it took like a full day to do it, and
I remember we were all kind of really over it
by the end. Then it came out and it was
really fucking cool. And then we've heard this for many
times our whole scrubs existence. But the X ray at

(23:22):
the end is backwards, and every every doctor wanted to
point that out, and we used to be like, oh, yeah, yeah,
that's on purpose. Get it because they're like med students. Yeah,
and they're med students and they don't fully get it.
We're like, no, it wasn't the fucking prop guy fucked
up the ship backwards.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
We did. And but we got lucky with that too,
because that kind of set the tone for this offbeat,
wacky show of ours. You know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
But early on in like in like commentary, I remember
everyone being like, the X rays backwards and we were like.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, we meant to do it and do it again
when we do it next time.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Do you remember when we a few years in they
tried to redo this sequence.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
With Neil wanted to add Neil.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
They wanted to add Neil and Neil. Yeah, and and
then so they aired it a few times and the
fan base was like, what the fuck is that open?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Right? No, they weren't having it.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
They were not having They were like season nine.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
How they weren't having season nine either. But anyway, all right, we.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Digreg um you we have one hundred and eighty episodes.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
To get before we digress. We digress.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Wait, and then I want to say that the song
was It was a song I found from a band
called laslow Bane that I was friends with, and I.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Because originally we wanted five for fighting, but that was yeah,
that was the original theme song. It was something like, uh,
I'm more than a bird. We can never use this.
I'm more than a plane.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I think you're allowed to sing a few lines.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
More than some superman beside a train. However it goes anyway,
so I can't stand a fly.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
My friend, I'm not that nie, right, all right? My
friend Chad Fisher was in this band, and I thought
the lyrics were perfect because it's not only was it
a great song, but it's like what the show's about.
You know, I'm Superman.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Donald, get it, Well, that's the same thing the fire
for Fighting song was about. You just found somebody who
wrote something kind of similar to it.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I can't do it all, Donald, I couldn't do it
all on my own. I needed my friend. I'm moving
a bird. Oh my god, you have such a pretty voice.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Though. I just remember how perfect the song was when
they sang it, and we didn't really necessarily know that
it was going to be the theme song until I
remember you playing it for me and being like dude
and being like, oh, yeah, that's cool. But I didn't
realize it was going to really be the theme song
until we had that first cookout before we started shooting
the show and he sang it with the with the

(25:42):
bullhorn and his boy playing the guitar next to him
and being like, oh, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
And then we made a music video. If anyby never
saw it, it's kind of cool. I shot a music
video for the song, and I shot all this kind
of cool footage of us. I'm sure it's on YouTube all.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Right, Okay, so let's talk about the first scene with
you and I.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'm gathering my notes because I did a lot of
prepper I want the fans to know I did a
lot of prep for this right on.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
So the first scene with you and I, where we're
talking and Ted the lawyer is explaining to us, you know,
legal procedure in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I remember him making up the line and if your
pay if your patient's dead and and you're sure, and
you're sure, And I remember that was when I realized,
oh wow, Bill's gonna let us. He's gonna let us
improv a little bit. Yeah, and opportunities to be funny.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah. I think that's one of the things that made
Scrubs really special is that Bill really let everyone kind
of make it their own. I mean, his running rule
through through the whole series was, you know, please get
it the way that it's written first, make sure we've
got it good, and then you guys can play around
and improvise, and if you have some wacky idea, you
can do it. And that was from the get go.

(26:55):
And then he had and he hired all these amazing
people like Sam Lloyd, who plays lawyer.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Who played Ted the lawyer and a.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Little trivia who's Christopher Lloyd's nephew, you know, just hilarious
character actors like that that could that would just bring
all their own and no matter what the size of
the part, you know, from from from our sized part
all the way down to people who had you know,
would have one line an episode, there was so much
freedom to just kind of riff around and make it funny. Yeah,
and we should give a shout out to Adam Bernstein

(27:24):
who directed the pilot. A pily director. Yeah, a pilot
director for those of you who don't know, really sets
the look of the show and the style. You know,
Scrubs has a very specific style with the whippans and
the flashing, the flashbacks and fantasies.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
And even the color of the show to make how
it looks so much like a hospital and isn't overly
saturated like a lot of TV shows that deal with
hospital life. They you know, they want their actors to
pop on screens. So the blueser bluer, and the eyes
and the you know what I mean, Scrubs it looked

(27:59):
dingy and dirty in the hospital. In that first episode,
I noticed a lot.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I noticed that it was clearly the thing I noticed,
you know, the whole idea was that it was a
it was a hospital that was had very little money.
And I noticed there's a lot of stuff. You know,
I haven't watched the pilot in how many years? Twenty years,
but I remember I was looking at the ceiling tiles.
There's all these like missing ceiling tiles. Yeah, and it
was and Bill and Adam really made it feel like
a dingy you know, it was not supposed to be
a nice hospital. Also, the show was shot on film,

(28:25):
which a lot of people probably don't know. This was
the entire series was shot on sixteen millimeter film. That's
why there's no blu ray and there's no if you
look at it normally, how it's meant to be seen.
It's a square because it was before high def video
and sixteen by nine televisions, and no one ever like
upres it. So this is all we got. I watched

(28:46):
the iTunes version, which has the original music. Do you
want to explain to them about the music thing?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Hulu doesn't have the original music.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well, just you know, just because of a question we
get from a lot of fans at times on social media,
all this music that was put on Scrubs and a
lot of people love was licensed before streaming. So these days,
a lot of times if you watch it on Hulu
where it's currently playing, or wherever you're watching it, it
might have some of those songs that you love replaced
because they weren't licensed for streaming rights. iTunes is the

(29:15):
only place or owning the DVDs obviously is the only
place where where all of the original music would be there.
Let's talk about your teeth for a second, because I
don't think we can just let this go.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Oh, I had baby teeth when we started shooting the show.
I don't have baby teeth. And if you spent a
lot of money on new teeth there it is.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
If you freeze fames, if you freeze frame. There was
there was a saga of Donald's teeth because he used
to have he had fake braces famously in Clueless.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yes, because they were trying to hide my small teeth.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Go on, oh is that really why?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh, we're getting an exclusive here, so you're selling.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
They shave my head and they shaved my head and
Clueless because my hairline was receding at eighteen you know
what I mean? That By the time I was twenty one,
I had this hairline right here that you that I'm well,
you guys can't see it, but I had this.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Uh, by the way, I feel like we're breaking news.
You're famous.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
They called me George Jefferson, Okay, because of my hairline?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Are you happy?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Are you happy?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
But I never knew that the clueless braces were because
of your fucked up chick lit teeth.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yes, and then the and then the hats that I
wore and clueless was because of my hairline.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh my god, Like I have.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
A baby face. I have a baby face. It's a
baby right, Like I have a baby face, but I
don't have a baby's hairline.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right, I had baby teeth.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I had baby teeth.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Who called you, George Jefferson? Your parents?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
No, some like dickhead that I grew up with my parents.
You're an asshole. That'd be hilarious, George, all.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Right, let's go forward with your chicken teeth. Oh and
then and then well, by the way, funny story. So
then one season Donald chose up. He decided on his own.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
We could talk about this some other time. We don't
need to talk about this now.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Well, can I just tease it for later.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
It tracks, it'll track, all right.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Donald turned up with braces on the inside of his
teeth and had a lisp, and Bill was like, take
your fucking braces off. What the hell you guess?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
All right, But there's like six episodes where I'm talking
like this.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
The whole and Donald chowse up.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
But he's like, I don't Bill, I don't think anyone's
gonna notice. And Bill's like, no one's gonna notice. What
the fuck are you doing? What'd you do? And Donald's like, well,
it's cut brief of but you can't see him because
they're on the in FIVEE in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Okay, all right, I don't even think that's a funny story, dude.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think it's hilarious. All right, let's talk about Sarah
Chalk's entrance into the lounge room.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Absolutely done, dun.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Duh, the brilliant and beautiful Sarah Chalk.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
So I remember at the audition saying Sarah and being
like that's the girl from Roseanne. Holy cow, yeah second Becky,
and thinking she's definitely gonna get this part because that
was the girl from Roseanne, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, Now, I didn't know I knew she was second
Becky was as she jokingly called herself, and people called
her because she had replaced the original Becky, But I
wasn't until I read with her in front of Bill
and then I read whether at my final Studio Network
test that I got to meet her, and I was
just smitten. I just thought she was so funny and

(32:16):
so beautiful, and.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That was one of my notes. Actually, you guys had
such great chemistry in the pilot, and it showed on
screen that, you know. I think that worked for the
remainder of the show because of you know, it's hard
to tell a will they won't they early on in
a pilot, you know what I mean, Like you can

(32:38):
say one person has a crush, but you both kind
of had a chemistry for each other in the pilots,
and it was undeniable, you know what I mean. So
like right away, you knew that at some point you
guys had to get together, you know what I mean.
Even if it didn't work, you knew it. You guys
had to get together.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
And then there was that scene where we're in the
staircase I'm supposed to be looking at her butt going
up and saying it looks I never understood why two pringles,
which is what I say, But your butt looks like
two pringles hugging.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I never knew that a curve because it's a little Okay,
so a pringle isn't.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I don't know if it's a compliment for a butt though,
is it.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Was trying to tell me you don't appreciate a round booty.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
No, I love a round booty. But I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
What the hell are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
But bro, you think you think I would say, like
it looks like a juicy peach, I wouldn't say it
looks like two pringles that are like sharp and breakable.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
How would you describe a nice bottom like to a
piece of food? You choose pringles?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Well, I mean, I'm going, okay, do we need to
get into this. Well, you can into this.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
You can say it in a nice correct For a really.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Long time, people of Caucasian colors didn't necessarily like to
have big, round booties, and so a pringle being a
tiny curved chip, if you put them together, they looked
like a little tiny booty.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
You're saying because she had a tiny white girl booty.
It was pringly right.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Nowadays because of certain actresses and Instagram models or whatever influence,
everyone and their mama likes a round booty, now a
big round. So you're starting to put fake booties that
are starting to put fake stuff in the buttocks area

(34:39):
to make the booty round. Now, I've heard that some
women really round booties already and decided, yo, you know what,
it ain't round enough and took more to make it bigger.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I have a question for you about this, yes, Now,
is your theory that certain famous influencers have influenced women
to to add not just.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Exercise, not just women, men too. Men too.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Now they exercise it. You can choose to exercise and
build up your booty. But you're saying that people really
do put put fake implants into their bottoms.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
They not only put it into their bottoms, they put
it into their chest area, They put it into their abs,
they put it into their arms. There are so many
people out there where you're like, Wow, that dude works out,
or wow, she must really work out and it's all enhancements.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Do you think men get ass implants?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
You love a number for a doctor who does.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
That's true because you got a little two buffo behind
that's right.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I know it's small, it's very small. I was thinking
the other day that was the.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Other thing that I noticed about you, that when the
first time I met yours, like my butler, really small booty.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Oh you noticed that at the table?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Read absolutely when you walked away anyway, gone, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I just wrote down because there was a shot of
her butt at which I thought looked beautiful, And then
I kind of thought about the line pringles and I
didn't fully understand it. Alright, let's move on from Sarah
and her glorious.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Let's talk about John C. McGinley. Yes, let's doctor Cox.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Wait before you get to Cox, I want to talk
about just I think Matt Winston is first. So Matt
Winston is the guy who's saying I'm a tool, I'm
a tool, lum a tool. And I always thought he
was so friggin funny. In fact, I put him in
my film which I was here and a little bit
of trivia for the trivia buffs out there. He's Stan
Winston's son, the late great Stan Winston.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Did you know that, Donald, I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, wow, So his dad he wasn't used a ton
a Bill sort of phased him out, although he did
have a hilarious line where he goes, it's like a baguette. Yeah,
I think when he was talking about Kelseo's penis all right,
So Johnny c McGinley, I mean, where do we begin
the legend?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
The legend that I remember when we after the table read.
When I saw him at the table read, I was like,
I'm gonna stay clear of that guy. He's a little intimidating.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, he's a little scary.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
And then we did the rehearsals at the hospital and
I remember watching him and I was like, I remember
telling myself focus on him right now because we're all,
you know, kind of wide eyed and don't necessarily know
what it is we want to do. He came into
the game already with Cox like he was like, this

(37:16):
is how I'm going to play him. This is how
he's going to be, you know what I mean, he
knew right away what he was doing. And I remember
I was like, focus on that guy because he seems
to be already out the gate, you know what I mean.
He seems to be running already where we're you know,
getting a slow start. He's already off and running, so
focus on him and try and match that energy that
he has.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
And he nobody worked harder. I mean, Johnny throughout the
course of the season had those endless, really hard to
do monologues, and he would sometimes get him the night
before and he would work so hard. I mean, this
is not a guy who ever phoned in. I don't
think Johnny ever flubbed a line in nine years.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I mean, true, he flubbed lines.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Well, I'm saying most rare, the least often of any
of us. And he was just so on it, and
so he so made it his. You know, there's a
thing in acting where you say, like, oh, I don't
want to just do it a generic way that anyone
will do it.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I want to. I want to make it specific to
me and make it mine. And a lot of actors
I think forced that, and so they put all this
shit onto it that isn't necessary. They're just trying to
be different, whereas some actors just do that and it's natural,
it feels right. And I think Johnny's the ultimate example
of that. He's someone who all these characteristics and all
the things, the gestures, the hands on the back, of
his head, the touch in his nose, like that's all

(38:26):
just Johnny, that's all stuff that's so specifically him that
he brought to that part, you.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Know, absolutely, and he stayed consistent with it the whole time.
Everything he did, he was like, we all evolved into
different characters as the show went on. If you watch
the show, we're very you know, you and I would
it were you know, it's not as broad as the
show goes on. Johnny stayed consistent from the beginning. He

(38:52):
was the same level the whole time, right, and you
really see it in that first scene where he comes
into the break room and is doing his thing, you
know what I mean. It's really interesting, you know, to
go back and watch now because when making it, you know,
I paid attention to him specifically because of who he was,

(39:14):
but to see how I evolved, to see how you evolved,
to see how Sarah evolved, to see how you know
what I mean, Judy evolved. It really and all from
this pilot, you know what I mean. It's like the
pilot is a tame version of what Scrubs became.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
You know what I mean, Although there's things about it,
you know, I don't know if you noticed, But there's
things that are in the pilot that you can see
both Bill and Adam Bernstein and the director are figuring
out like that. We eventually phased out like all the
I mean like there's like whip noises when Johnny turns
his head and there's like there's little there's like way
more sound effects early on. I think in the show
that they eventually toned down. I mean that's a digression

(39:54):
from Johnny. So Johnny's just amazing and people always ask
what he's like, and I say, he literally is this intent,
but he's just the most nice person you've ever met.
It's just like he's like, picture that intensity of a
human being, but he's a super sweet nice nothing.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
But love though that intensity with nothing but love.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
And when he shakes your hand, he puts out his
hand and goes, there's five good ones for you, meaning
his finger. Yeah, there's five good ones for you.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Grab it and squeeze.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah. He's got all sorts of sayings, but I'll never
forget there's five good ones for you.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, that one, and there's a mammo in that.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Oh yeah, we'd finish it. We'd finish a scene in
one of our editor's names was Jean Michelle, and he'd go,
I think we gave Jean Michelle some mammo, all right,
so let's go. The next thing I wrote down on
if you have anything before this, but was the sitcom
fantasy I have where I where I'm with Sarah on this.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
The man You to the Man.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
So I don't even know what this was. A sitcom
must have been on on NBC or something or maybe ABC,
because but I don't remember. We borrowed some Actually, people
out there might who know the sitcom might recognize who
said it is, but we just went to an actual
set and shot the scene there because we didn't, you know,
it was the pilot.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Was it like good Morning Miami or something like that.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
That could have been it. I don't know. It probably
was a pilot of the of the same season, right
or something. And I remember this was just surreal. We
were in like on a real sitcom stage. And now,
granted I have a huge crush on Sarah and I'm
doing my best to like hold it together, and then
all of a sudden we're doing a scene where she
rips off her top and mounts me and we make out.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, you know what, back in the day, I was like, Wow,
she ripped off her top. That's cutting edge. Now I
look at it and I'm like, oh, whoa did she
have to rip off our top?

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Well, I mean I think the show. You have to
look at it in the context of the year. I mean,
everybody forgets now because we have all this everything streaming
and cable and everything's so much more risque, and you
go to you seek out whatever you watch. I mean,
from the Show Girls, the crazy show they would do
on there, to everything and anything that's on Netflix now.

(42:03):
But back in the day, you know, I think Bill
was trying to push the envelope. The show was on
at nine or nine thirty. He was trying to push
the diamelo of what you could do on network television.
So both with being politically incorrected times, both with sex
with language. I mean, he was trying to say, like, hey, network,
you can compete and be a little bit you know riskee,

(42:24):
And so this for the time was pretty risque. I
mean it was. There was a lot of sex in
the show. You know, it's funny. I have I'm sure
you do. You have people who go, hey, I'm showing
my kids scrubs and I can't be in the same room.
It's so awkward because it's because there was a lot
of sex in the show.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
No, I don't you know, I don't let my kids
watch Scrubs.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Well your kids are your kids are too young. But
I'm saying, like.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I got a six year old and a four year old.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
No watch No, I didn't mean your kids. I mean
like like Matt Tarsis, who was one of the writers,
he told me that his son, who was a teenager,
was watching the show and he's like, I had to
walk out of the room. I was like watching like
you and Sarah have these sex scenes, like that episode
where we're eating pizza and we're like banging all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Okay, you know that's that is true. Sarah did have
to take her top off. But I'm gonna be honest
with you. I think the guys on the show were
way more naked than the females were on the show.

(43:21):
You know what I mean. Between you were naked so much.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Your body looks fierce.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Thank you, like Tay Diggs, baby, like Ty Diggs.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
You know you know. Funny bit of trivia. Rob Maschio,
who was often only in his banana Hammock and worked
very hard to maintain that physique would do all sorts
of push ups and stuff. When the show moved from
whatever season from NBC to ABC, which is owned by Disney,
they made a rule that we could no longer film
him from the waist down when he was in his
banana Hammock, did you know that bit of trivia?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I didn't know that bit of trivia. I also, I remember,
and we'll discuss this later on, but there were times
where we were actually really naked because it had to
be that way for the camera.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Wait, you didn't have like a sock on your penis.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I did one time. I did have a sock on
my penis, And I remember having to walk into parking
lot with a bunch of people which a sock on
my penis. I remember not only that, not only that
I had a I had also a very big leaf,
very big leaf.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
It was a big leaf, first of all, a large
like an overleaf.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
It was like it was like a maple leaf, like
a huge maple leaf.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
It wasn't like one of those thin like bamboo.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
No, no, no, it wasn't like it wasn't like an eucalyptus leaf.
It was a It was like a maple leaf to
cover my job.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
No one has ever bragged about their sexual prowess through
leaf sides, so that's a first for our podcast. I
do want to say that. I once there's a scene
where I was dancing in front of Tara Reid and
I was supposed to be naked and they were shooting
me from behind, and so I just I packed everything
I had into a sock and I was doing the
dance in front of Tara Reid. Remember that? And then

(44:53):
and then the sock came off, and then I was like,
what a surreal experience. There's Tara Reid just staring at
the junk.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, Oh, I mean, what am I gonna do? I
apologize and all right, So we got a caller on waite,
why are you interrupting? I want to I just want
to say that it was a tube sock, much like
your leaf analogy.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
It was not it wasn't It wasn't a dress sock.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
It was you know those little those little socks people
now where they're just like.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Go for There wasn't an ankle sock. It was a
tube sock. Did they call those things that just go
ankle socks.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, it was ankle sock.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
It was a tube sock.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
It was a tube sock.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Got to say, we're basing your boys.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
It was a tube man, a long one.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
So we got a collar.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
It was a woman's thigh.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
High Okay, okay, So I don't mean to interrupt yourzac,
but we got a caller.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
This is exciting because I I daydreamed when we said
we were going to do this that we should take
fan questions from all around the world, and it's really happening.
So go ahead, Donald, and.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
So I'd like to introduce Chris to the podcast. Chris,
how are you hi.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Chris, how's it Cohen?

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Guys, I'm doing well. Thank you for having me on.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Very first guest. So we really want to nail this.
We want to give you the best answer to your question.
That's that's ever been given to any question throughout the history.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Okay, gotcha, that's heart that no pressure exactly, all right.
I guess the question I'll ask you all.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
This one comes from a buddy of mine named Andrew.
I have a question about the soundtrack. I think that's
something that was such like an iconic part of the
show just across all the seasons. You introduced so many
people to so many awesome artists over the years. Was
that something was there someone that spearheaded that did you
guys just have great taste? Like, how did you come
up with this soundtrack?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
It was all me? It was all me.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Donald had nothing to do with it. Let me just sorry.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I literally had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, because I mean, did you ever get a song
on ever?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
No, because I was listening to songs like Jo tosy Uh.
I was listening to you know uh songs by Wu
Tang Clan, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Things like yeah, great, Donald didn't take the music.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
As a matter of fact, a lot of the artists
that were on the show, I was introduced to for
the first time while watching the show. So who do
we have on a show?

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Keen?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
All these people, I had no idea who they were,
you know what I mean? And some artists that were
well known. I just didn't listen to that type of
music at the time. It wasn't until Scrubs that all
of a sudden started listening to Indian folk rock, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, I think that you know, first of all, it
was a lot of people. It was definitely Bill Lawrence
obviously created the show, and his wife Krista Miller, who
played Jordan, and myself. I think we were the three
probably the main people, but also a lot of the
writers in the writer's room. A lot of times when
it was their script, they'd go with a lot of people,
but and of course the editors who would who would
you know? The editors would get like ten ideas and

(47:50):
they'd be the ones to try and and and shape
it to see what would work the best. So there
was a bunch of us, but Christa Miller definitely did
a lot of song choosing, and I got a bunch
on myself that I'm excited about.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Our best friend, uh got.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Joshua Joshua Rainead and.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Got his start really before Scrubs. What was josh doing?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
He was sleeping on my couch, was he really? Yeah?
I mean he didn't even have a job, and he
had written the song Winter, which we played in the
episode where Bretton Fraser's character dies spoiler, And yeah, when
Winter was so popular that that had launched a career
for josh and everyone was like, what other songs do

(48:30):
you have? And He's like, that's the only song I've
ever written, and so he had to like frantically make
an album.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah. I remember going to watch him at two concerts
with like me, Zach my girlfriend at the time, Zach's
girlfriend at the time, and that was it. Yeah, and
now he sells out, you know, he does.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
He does really really well, So that's it. It was
a lot of fun, you know. I think Bill was
early on in putting music at the you know, now
it's become very popular and very common to sort of
end your episode of TV with an emotional piece of
music and then cut around in a montage and watch
how everyone, you know, what they learned from the episode.

(49:12):
And and I think Bill was at the forefront of
doing that definitely, because you know now now it's pretty commonplace.
But I think Scrubs was kind of one of the
first shows to do that.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
You know. I like to think The Wonder Years was, Yeah,
he would was a was a early version of what
single camera comedy. I mean, mash obviously, but the Wonder
Years really took it's the time that it was in
and use the music of that time to help tell
the story. And Scrubs I feel like it's the next

(49:45):
thing to do that, and then.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, and Alan mcbial also Ally McBeal. I think Bill
would say that. I remember the show Ali mcbeil had
they cut away to wacky shit. I mean, I think
Scrubbs meets Scrubs is sort of Alan McBeal meets Mash
meets Wonder Years. Right, all right, so we answer your question.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
He did. That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Do you have another one? We'll give you another one.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, we'll give you another question.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
All right. I've got a two part question.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
It's kind of common knowledge now that the Janitor wasn't
supposed to make a past season one.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
He was supposed to be a fig man of JD's imagination.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, so two parter here.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
One, How is that supposed to be written in? How
is it going to come to be known that the
Janitor was, you know, just a figment of the imagination.
And then the second part of that is is there
any plotline that didn't come to fruition that you really
wish did?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah? I know that, but wait, I just want to say,
we're gonna have Bill on for everyone. Bill will probably
be our first guest because he can answer all sorts
of questions about what his plan was for the writing
and such. But I do remember that Neil Flynn. First
of all, I was going to talk about this when
we got to Neil in the pilot. But Neil was
supposed to just have a small part. He wasn't. Bill
wasn't even intending that he was going to be in

(50:49):
the show beyond the pilot or maybe a few episodes.
But he was so hilarious that Bill just kept adding
him and adding him and adding him, and to the
point where he was one became one of the stars
of the show. And Neil is a hilarious improvisational actor,
and so a lot of times he would just make
up his own line throughout the whole run of the show.
And in fact, it got to a point where and

(51:10):
sometimes in a script it would just say like and
then Neil makes up something funny like it wouldn't even
have align for him because Neil was just so gifted
and hilarious.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Well, that whole scene was that whole scene improved with
you and him with the penny in the door.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Well, the penny in the door was all written. But
I'm saying, like right off the bat, everybody could tell like,
this guy, Neil Flynn is really funny, and he's got
to be more in the show. And you know, Bill
would kind of try people out, and when they killed it,
he'd keep using him, you know, just like you like
all the people that fans grew to love, like you know,
Phil Lewis Hooch, Like we'd all thought he was so
frigging hilarious. We just kept putting him on the show

(51:45):
whenever we could. So anyway, long story short, if you
I think throughout season one, the janitor only addresses me
if I'm not mistaken now, So so Bill kind of
had the idea, like, oh my god, if this doesn't
go too long, it might be funny. Need to do
a big reveal that the janitor is totally in in
uh in JD's imagination.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
But then how crazy and would that have made j D? Though?
You would have been like a freaking psycho, dude, you would.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Have been look at my, look at nine years of
wacky fantasies, remember when you were a goat?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, dude, but it was a fantasy. These were fantasies.
If if you actually had somebody that you an imaginary
friend that you talked to and would talk back to you,
and you're a doctor.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I know, I think it could have been cool, but
but anyway, the point was that that the show kept
going and Bill. I remember Bill. I heard Bill say
like I had to, I had to have this guy
interact with other people because it was like, you know,
and then it became you know, he wanted to. I
think fans also wanted to see the character of the
Janitor interact with people, although you never knew his name
or did you name was Janitor or was it Glenn Matthews.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Did we answer the second part of the question.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Oh, storylines, we did. We did a medicinal marijuana long
before it's time. We did a medicinal marijuana plotline and
start shooting it and then the studio told Bill to
shut it down.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
It happened.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, it's funny because of course, now marijuana's legal in
California and so many other places.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Well, it had just I remember, it had just started
becoming legal at the time when we Yeah, I remember,
I do remember that because there were a lot of
people that were smoking weed.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Well, we probably shouldn't bring that up in the in
the first episode of this, let's get to how high
everybody was. In future episodes with the tease something.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I'm just saying I was a tease.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Okay, In future episodes, Donald will out people for who
was baked twin. All right, thank you, Chris.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Thank you Chris, Thank you Chris.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Thanks for being our first guest.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
That would be so funny. That would be so funny
if that's how we did it. If in that scene
he's high.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I think you need to come clean. When we get
to scenes where you were.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Baked, that'll be like the whole series run.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Okay, great, How long into the series did you stop
memorizing your lines?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Uh rt.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
We'll talk about that in future episodes to come as well. Oh,
I wanted to say the scene with Johnny in the
in the in the lounge with with the woman that
that was my audition scene where Johnny comes in with
the woman he says is dead and he's telling me
to throw tile in all her face. That was one
of the main, I think one of the three scenes
that I auditioned with. What was your audition scenes?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Do you remember My audition scene was I'm really scared.
I'm so happy that I get to wear a surgical mask,
a mask because if I didn't have it on, my
face would look like this. And then I make the
scared face. Yeah, that was one of my auditioned scenes.
And then and did you improv I love you?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Or is that in the script?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
No, we improv that. Bill came up to me. It
was like telling me you love him at the end.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
That was funny and I was.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Like, what is to say it? And then laugh when
you are.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
And then Lonnie, by the way, everyone that's Lonnie. Lonnie's
playing the pizza delivery guy.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I had no idea that was him until watching the pilot.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
So Lonnie Lonnie exists. It's one of the few people
that exists as two different characters in the Scrubs universe.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I feel like it's three different characters. But yeah, okay, why.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
There's Lonnie, there's pizza delivery guy?

Speaker 2 (55:21):
And who was a was Lonnie also the guy that
played basketball? I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Okay, anyway, Scrubs fans will answer for us. But yeah,
that was very funny. I love that when you say
I love you, he looks. We both look at you like.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
What I say to you all the time.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
In this scene, also with the woman was supposed to
be really dead, and I remember the network pushed back
against Bill and said no, you can't have her really
genuinely pushing around a dead woman. You have to have
her at the end go I'm not really dead. So
that was a rewrite forced by the network because Bill
thought it was funny if he really was just pushing
around a corpse.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Very funny too. I want to talk about Ken Jenkins
or second yes, because I feel like he was the
MVP of our show, you know what I mean, in
so many ways, like, uh, it's really difficult to be
on a show with such a huge ensemble cast where
everyone is likable, from the lead all the way down

(56:19):
to the guest stars. Everyone's likable. I think the hardest part,
the hardest person to play in all of that would
be the bad guy, you know what I mean. And
he made it so that the bad guy you didn't
like him, but you still loved him, you know what
I mean. And I felt like he was literally the MVP.

(56:41):
Him and Judy Rayis actually were the MVPs of the
show because Judy had to tackle all of the dramatic stuff,
you know what I mean, Her character felt everything. She
was the nurse, she was the mother of the hospital.
And Ken Jenkins, his character was the evil dad or
the you know what I mean, the grandpa who was
just over it all and was like, I just you know,

(57:03):
I want this hospital to make money. We're broke, and
all that matters is if their insurance is going to
pay for it. If it's if they're not, get them
out of here, because we're we're broke. We got no dough.
And I thought to make those two to make that
character lovable is a really, really, really hard thing to do,

(57:25):
and he did it effortlessly, it seemed like in my eyes.
And and same thing with Judy, you know what I mean.
Judy would played a role that was definitely needed in
this band of misfits. She played this character that was
just motherly and took care of you know, Bambi came

(57:45):
from that. That's that that stuck throughout the whole show.
You being called Bambi.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, I noticed that. Her very first line that comes
out of her mouth is calling me Bamby. I didn't
I didn't know that. It's I didn't remember that. But
that's stuck for the whole run of the show. And
of course will still call me that on the street
when I'm past them. But uh, her very first line
is calling me Bambi.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, you know what I mean. And it was it
was just we knew what we were there to do.
We're here to be funny, and we're here to make
everybody laugh, and you know, and and at times we're
gonna get dramatic and everything like that. But Judy and
Ken had the tough roles. In my opinion, you knew
Judy was supposed to make everybody feel safe. Ken was
supposed to make everybody feel anger, you know what I mean,

(58:29):
in this in this crazy world. And they did it
so perfectly.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
And and Ken had a lot of the you know,
social commentary that Bill was trying to get in there
about how fucked up the healthcare system is and how
how how fucked up it is that hospitals are like
no insurance, get him out of here, like you know,
what do you like right away in the pilot. Of course,
these issues are so relevant today more than ever. But
right away in the pilot you have them going, look,

(58:52):
I don't care that you know nothing. Let me tell
you a couple of things. If they don't have insurance,
get him out of here, and uh and and and
and Bill geniusly found a way to make that and
of course, Ken Jenkins is an actor. Together, they found
a way to make that character so lovable even though
he was he was the antagonist.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Talk about thirteen minutes and thirty eight seconds. I'm looking
at a still of you making out with Judy Reyies right,
and Todd in the frame I have up. Todd is
watching because it's part of the fantasying. So what was
it like? You know, I think people who aren't actors
are always curious what it's like when you meet someone. Hey,
nice to meet you, and then all of a sudden
you have to just go do a fake makeout scene
with them.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I feel like that was the first day I met
Judy too, and really, yeah, I feel like that was
our first scene together and I hadn't you know, I
remember me. I don't remember Neil at the table read.
I don't remember Judy. I don't remember Ken at the
table read. I remember me, you, Johnny and Sarah for
some reason. And so when we did the makeout scene,

(59:56):
I feel like that was my I know, it's not
the first day I met her. That's my first real
memory of Judy, you know what I mean? And I
remember she smoked cigarettes, right, before the scene, and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Like, Ah, that's a power move, that's a power move.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
That's how you do it. But I've realized that's how
you do it. If you're gonna make out with somebody,
make it so they got to work and not make
it so it's them having a great time making out. No,
this is a job, dude, This is this isn't this
isn't you getting your rocks off while we're doing this scene.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
It's funny to think about someone smoking like, I mean,
I don't do you know any I mean, it's rare
to see anyone smoking cigarettes at all anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Oh No, there are a lot of people that still
smoke cigarettes. Now vaping has turned into the work.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
So I just feel like vaping of course, but just
the idea that Judy was I guess a smoker when
we started, right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I was a smoker when we started. I spoke started and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Neil was always a smoker.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, when we started doing the show, I think a
lot of a smoke cigarette. I mean in the cast
maybe you, Sarah and Johnny and Ken didn't, but everyone
else did.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, I didn't remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
And then us doing the kissing stuff, and then watching
the episode and none of that made the show. Really.
All it is is me, we're kind of cuddled up together.
We're kind of cuddled up together, and uh and Rob's
over us watching. But I remember doing the scene if
feeling way more intimate than that, you know what I mean,

(01:01:25):
way more you know what I mean, and then watching
it being like, oh, they didn't use any other other
good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Right, Well, it's a really quick moment. And I love
that she's I love that you're naked, and she's like,
all right, thanks, I'm out. I thought that was a
cool introduction of her character.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
She was like, and I also and I also liked
that your imagination was me scoring in reality the real
what really happened was I got played and then got
turned into you know, I got you know, I stripped
down for someone, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
And she was like she got you know, she just
wanted to make out with someone and be like later
and she like she was like she kind of like
used you, whereas in my imagination you were using her.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Yeah, that was clever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I wanted to just quote talk about that it's going backwards,
but that deer in headlight thing, I still have the
foam antlers. I'm staring at them right now from that
that fantasy where I imagine I'm a deer at headlights.
And and what we had to do was we backed
the mac up, the big semi, right up to my face.
And the idea was for the that the truck would

(01:02:28):
floor it in reverse and and then we'd play it
and then we'd play it backwards right so it looked
like it was And then of course it hit a
mannequin too, but for this one shot, and I remember
standing there with my face against the grill of a
of a Mack truck and being like leaning out to
the driver, being like, you sure it's in reverse? Right,
Like like there had to be some OSHA rule against that,

(01:02:48):
but I but I was like standing there going if
this dude, Like I don't want to cause any waves
or anything, but I just want to double check you're
in reverse. We have finally saving a life. Oh, we
have a loma. We should talk about Loma. Right, the
beautiful and talented Olma Right who played the nurse Roberts.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Nurse Roberts, who who whose introduction in the show is
you know amazing. Can you just call him so I
can go home? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Yeah? Can you just call him trying. She's so good
and and Loma was one of those again, another example
of someone who Bill just loved and thought was so talented,
and she you know, ended up being in the whole
the whole show until he eventually killed her off, felt
bad and brought her back as her twin sister, which
we'll get to that and later Laverne again, podcast, Laverne.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Again again, I'm gonna call you Laverne again.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
So we were thinking of like trying to summarize what
the lesson of the episode was, But I mean, I
think the episode, the lesson of the of the pilot
was basically the theme song, which is I can't do
this all on my own, right, I mean right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
It's the introduction of how difficult it is to be
a doctor in a hospital and how the medical staff
at a hospital really depends on each other to work.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah, And I think, I mean, I don't think it's
a big leap to say that a lot of people
related to the show because they can see that in
their own lives and how you turn to your friends
and your family. I mean, I think the show can be,
as we all know, can be very very heartwarming, and
that was what Bill did so geniusly was how it'd
be so funny and crazy and silly and fantasies and everything,
and then all of a sudden you can turn a

(01:04:22):
corner and you're losing a patient like I did at
the end, or or you see that our friendship is
so is so pure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
It's still solid, also conquering fear, you know what I mean.
JD was so afraid to do everything. As a matter
of fact, him and Elliott hide in a closet at
one point and doctor Cox catches them doing it and
understands why they're afraid. But then at the end of
the show still gives j D the confidence to perform

(01:04:55):
whatever it is you did with the tube and the
blood and all of that stuff, something that you know
JD was very afraid of and made him feel like
he was going to be okay. And he was, and
he had a support group around him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah, And I think that's it. That's that's the pilot.
I think we just we just did it. We did
our first podcast. I love you and I love you
so much.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Hey listen, if you're a fan and you made it
to the end, thank you. We want we're gonna keep
doing this. We want you to watch the show with us.
We're gonna do this every week and and you can
just join us, tell your friends, and every week we're
gonna go through another episode, and we're gonna take a
fan question if you have a fan question, Donald, we

(01:05:39):
have set up a Gmail account the iHeart people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Have, right, and that account is That.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Account is scrubsiheart at gmail dot com. So scrubs and
then I heart at gmail dot com. And Sary said,
thank you. We want you to submit questions and then
are our beautiful producers here will will work out all

(01:06:05):
the logistics and and we'll have you on. We're gonna
take a question each podcast. We're gonna have guests on.
We're gonna start having fellow cast members. We'rena obviously gonna
have our creator of the show, Bill Lawrence on. Who
else we're gonna have on Donald, some of the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Oh my goodness, we're going after, you know, even some
of the people that you remember but don't know, like
Snoop Dogg in Turn, we're gonna reach out to him.
We're already head did he already.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Snoop Dogg in Turn already slid into my DMS and I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Mick had already said he's down. We're gonna even have that.
We're gonna have the stand ins on the show who
did a lot of the work that you see, uh
before we went in and did it set up the
shots they you know, So it's gonna be a bunch
of people. Writers, We're gonna have uh, directors everything. Hopefully
we could get some big names too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I'm sure Scott Foley would come on and we could
just say nobody cares. Sean over and nobody every Sean,
Nobody cares. So follow Donald and I on Instagram and Twitter,
and please tell your friends because we hope this is
a big success. Because for us this was I don't
know about you, Donald, but this was a lot of fun.
I kind of don't want to stop talking, but I

(01:07:10):
feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Oh, absolutely should. This was actually the you know I
talk about Clueless as the jump off point in my
life where I was introduced to the industry and I
learned a lot of things. But Scrubs was really like
the you know, that was the thing that took it
over the top for me as an actor, where I
had an actual job where I was able to you know,

(01:07:30):
pay my rent and I built a family because I
was able to be a part of this wonderful show.
So you know, I owe a lot to you, Zach,
I owe a lot to Bill Lawrence. I owe a
lot to the cast and the crew of this of Scrubs.
So I'm really excited to talk about it with fans
who enjoyed the experiences that we had.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Yeah, and as always, I agree with everything you said,
And as always, thank you for being our fans, and
thank you for supporting the show. It was a joy
to make it for you and Donald. I hate this quarantining.
I just want to be with you all the time.
I want to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Will be a day again, Hopefully there will be a
day again where you and I can eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I can't wait to ride you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
I feel like that's how we should end. Should we
end with that? Now, let's end with that. Don't say,
don't speak, don't speak. Let's just end with that. Goodbye Forboddy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Here's some stories I'm not sure we made about a
bunch of docs and nurses and

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Said here's a story, nel, so YadA, Yeather