May 9, 2024 • 35 mins
We’re having an actual slumber party, on location at the *real* Matthews house, and Will brought along his TV parents. William “Rusty” Russ (a.k.a. Alan) and Betsy Randle (a.k.a. Amy) are hanging out with the gang in a very familiar setting to share some never-before-heard memories and insight.
Hear Betsy and Russ’ first impressions of the kids, what the adults REALLY did after the cameras stopped rolling and see if you can beat them in a round of BMW trivia.
This is one slumber party where you WANT the parents around, because we’re staying up late on a very special Pod Meets World!
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
We couldn't be more excited to be taping a very
special episode of Pod Meets World from a very special location,
brought to you by the fully electric Hyundai Ionic five.
We are at the actual Boy Meets World home. Yes,
we are inside the Matthew It is the house you
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saw as the exterior in almost every episode through season four.
We're actually going to be sleeping here tonight, if you
can believe it. D Writer, how did we agree to this?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
This is I think we found out somebody we talked
about doing something with this house because we're actually right
across the street from one of the studios that we
shot at, correct, so we always knew where this house was,
which was just the house for the exterior shots which
they kept coming back every episode, but we never actually.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
First time.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So I know that that can be confusing to some people,
even people that have worked in the industry for years
that but no, we actually have never been here and
the interior looks nothing like much like we've never been
to Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
And the problem I'm starting to realize is when writer,
either you or whoever says any idea, Danielle then googles
it and I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Sure this was a will idea, but then again, who knows.
It was like, let's let's why do we found out.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That it was actually available.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Whoever bought this house most recently knew that it was
the Boy Meets World exterior and decided to rent it out.
And so we we started hearing from our dear listeners
it was probably Melissa. Yeah, Melissa reached out and said,
guess what, I'm staying at the Boy Meets World house.
And we were like, wait a minute, you can do that,
and you know, producer mind Jensen Karp was like, let's
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get you guys inside the Boy Meets World House. So anyway,
it's going to be very fun. We are going to
be taping a bunch of fun episodes and content during
our next twenty four hours, but first.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Twenty four we've decided on the full time.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Hours, just checking you decided on the full twenty four.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But now that you guys know that, it is time
to sit down with two true TV legends right here
inside the house they helped make iconic. We have spoken
with them both separately for our pod, but now with
the chance to have them here together, we wanted to
not only learn more about their relationship and experiences on set,
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but also give them the flowers they so obviously deserve
thirty years later during our rewatch. So now as a duo,
we are lucky to be sitting with Alan and Amy
Matthews in the flesh, William, Rusty Russ, and Betsy Randall.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, yes, those legends.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Get here.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Let me know.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You're here.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You're here already.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
We didn't either when we were watching this until we
started to get into seasons three and four, and now
we're like, oh my god, we were.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Both so good on the show, and we missed it
because we were your kids and so self involved. Didn't
realize how great you were.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We've talked about it. I think you just assumed everybody
was as good as them, And then you get into
as you grow up and you work with other actors,
you realize how lucky we were to have you guys
just made certainly.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Were yeah, well, and we're lucky that you're still in
our lives. We all kind of reunited recently, we all
went to nineties con. How was that for you? Was
that the first time you had seen each other in
quite a while.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Yeah, I think so yeah, yeah, it was a gas.
It was a total gas.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
That was your first convention ever, wasn't it, Rusty?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, it's a it's a fun world, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Well it's so special and gosh, all the guys on
gals that came out, it was just.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Like so much love.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, big love fest at the conventions.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So before the convention, do you do either of you
remember the last time you had seen each other face
to face?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, I mean we're talking years.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, well, I mean we all did.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
We did Girl Meets World together for the last episode, right.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Would that have been two thousands seventeen? Yeah, okay, so
seven years. How do you guys feel seeing the Boy
Meets World House in the flesh today? Does it? Is
it what you remembered seeing on TV?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
No, I don't remember seeing it. You really.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
The outside looks like I never saw the outside.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Did you ever watch Did you watch the show? Rusty?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You should, it's good. We have a podcast about it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And you came up the front right the driveway and
then sometimes the.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Street, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Rider, and I laughed and felt very much like every
person who's ever come to visit a set and as
we were standing outside, I was sitting there and just
kind of staring at it, and writer goes, it looks
smaller in person, And it is exactly the way you
feel when everyone who's ever come to a set goes, oh,
the set looks so much bigger on TV.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, we look bigger too.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Everyone every time we meet me like you're shorter than
I thought. It's like, hey, it's everyone thinks we're hugely tall.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Do you guys remember, like we we've talked a lot
about as kids, things that we remember from the Boy
Meets World set, like the candy drawer in the kitchen
and the gum wall. Do you remember the disgusting the wall?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Oh yeah, but up up the stairs before we walk on,
where we smashing their gun to.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The kitchen, the kitchen, down the kitchen stairs. I know
you started the Okay, now I'm making that up. Are
there any moments or spots on any of the sets
we worked on over the seven years that you guys
felt more at home that were like your little spots
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on the set you like to hang out.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I'm afraid it was the sink.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Oh really, yes?
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Oh yeah, I was behind the counter.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Doing business constantly mom stuff disciplining you.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I don't know, I don't really, I mean, I love you, frankly,
I loved so much offset Yeah you know, I mean
because you guys was you know your kids?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I still remember, like I said, one of my strongest memories.
It was a Halloween and I remember you guys coming
from school. This was on Disney Lot and walking from
the school, which is about two hundred yards from the stage,
and you all had your little costumes on, and I
remember watching you guys just skipping over to.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Go to work.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I thought, well, I'm gonna remember this, and I had.
It's really one of my fondest memories.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So now that we're in season four, the Wilderness Store
is like a big It gets a big introduction and
then it's only been used a couple of times, but
it's a great set. Do you remember the Wilderness Store?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Do you have?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
I remember it very well.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
All I can remember is the one arm bear train.
We haven't gotten there yet. But do you remember discussions
about like the whole because it's actually Amy Buys the which.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Is one of my favorite episode.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's a great episode. Do you guys remember did Michael
ever talk to you about, like, oh, we're going to
introduce this whole new aspect of the show, or do
you have any No, do.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
You remember a new aspect?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
No, talk to you about any of it. You know,
I don't think so. The bear there is eventually a bear. Yeah,
but we're not getting there now. You guys by the Wilderness,
the Matthews by the Wilderness Store, and Alan goes from
being a grosser to the Wilderness Store owner and works there,
and it becomes mostly a place for the three of you,
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mostly Rusty and and Will. And then they introduced a
love interest for Will free episode three episodes.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Remember do you remember Lonnie, the blonde actress who worked
at the store with us.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
She wore a crop top flannel.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
She was but not It was weird.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I have a writer asking about if they kind of
let you in on big changes in the show when
it came to buying the Wilderness Store and stuff like that.
Were there any changes you were letting on? Did you
know they were like, for instance, changing little sisters.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Or Tony Quinn wasn't coming back.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Were you privy to any of that kind of stuff
because we didn't know any of that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
No, I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
No, no, no, it was not just a kid just
being an actor, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I mean it was their show. I mean, you know, no,
I don't, I don't remember. We would talk about stuff
and make jokes and you know, but the writers were
you know, is their show, Michael's show and all that
great bunch of writers. Yea, And they're they're working there,
you know, six months.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Before we show up.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah, they're not calling me up saying what do you
think of this?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Did you ever go to them with any of your
own desires to like do certain things or.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
No, I would.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I was.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
They were great to be open. I say, you know,
this doesn't feel comfortable or what about this? Or you
know it's really I feel you know, this is a
little weird, or why is it like this? And a
lot of times it was just because I didn't see
it clearly, because as I said, they've been living with
the script or an idea for six months, so they've
usually been through all the things. I'm just seeing it.
(10:12):
And I had to give them faith. You know, as
an actor, you got to have a lot of faith.
But they have a vision that I'm not seeing right
at the moment.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Yeah, And it's not like we can improvise. You know,
that's not professional to do that, right, These guys work
hard to come up with these words, so we feel
the challenge to try and make it work.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, I know, Betsy, you were saying, maybe you don't
really remember it very well. But the episode where you
end up buying the Wilderness Store is so wonderful.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Great episode.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's such a great relationship story too. It's it starts
off with you know, Alan saying I'm not doing this anymore.
I don't want to be a grosser. I need a change.
And then Eric and Alan go to this you know
convention where they learn about new jobs, and Alan decides,
you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to
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open a convenience store. And I'm going to do that
because I already know being a grosser. And you say
to him, I'm not going to support this, and he
gets a little upset with you, like why can't you
just support me? And you have this beautiful scene in
the backyard where you tell him I'm not going to
support you because I'm not going to support you continuing
to crush your dream. You need, I expect you want
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more for yourself. And if you, when you find that thing,
I will support it, but this is the one I can't.
And there's this whole moment too where you say, like,
one of these days I'm going to make a decision
and it's going to affect this fan.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well, quit, he quits. That's why latch of the episode
is that he quits and he comes home says I quit,
and you're like, you can't just do that?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, and you say, I'm basically I'm going to get
you back, and I don't know how when, I don't
know when, but one of these days I'm going to
make a decision that changes the course of this family
and you're not going to know about it. And in
the end it resolves with you buying the Wilderness Store.
And what was extremes come true?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
What was the first possibility that he turned down?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Gone?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Nope, pooy gone?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That was the first thing?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Is a guy trying to sell us on Pooperrie, which
gets rid of all the dog smells, which then Danielle
informed us, became an actual thing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes, you guys could have been multi mis exactly if
we just listened to our gut. But so when you
guys would get those episodes and still in season three
and season four, there are those occasional episodes where you
guys are just handed a beautiful storyline and you execute
it so well. And now as adults, we are recognizing
just how nuanced and incredible you are. When you would
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get those episodes and you'd read those scripts, would you
think like, yes, more of this. How did you feel
when you'd see you were going to get to really
shine in an episode?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, more of this, more of this.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
I was so relieved to have something to talk about,
to write that meant something, and.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
So yeah, well, I always give the writers kudos because
they always wrote adults as opposed to merely jokes, you know,
and let us hopefully be you know, some semblance of
real life, as you know, I found out going to
these conventions and all, you know, for the last twenty
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years that you know, people you know kind of looked
at us as parents. That's what's the beauty is the writing,
very much, you know, because it all stems from the writing.
Without the writers, you got nothing.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
And it's rare to see a show that the adults
are written as well as the kids, and vice versa.
A lot of times it's a kids show and the
adults are wacky and they're always the kids are always
pulling the wool over their eyes or that kind of thing,
or it's vice versa where the adults are written really
well and the kids or one note. But our show
really does have that writing where the adults were great.
I mean, there was time we just saw an episode
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where where it was Ben getting Corey getting his license,
and you know, Alan wakes up in the morning and
just assumes that Corey knows how important it is to him,
so he's gonna spend his whole day with his dad
getting his license. When so Alan doesn't even say to Corey, hey,
we're gonna do this, He just assumes is gonna happen. Well,
Corey of course wants to go be with his friends.
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So it's it's really your story, Rusty, about kind of
dealing with your kids growing up. And there's this great
scene where you get a Phoenie scene where it's like
it's Bill coming to teach Alan, like the teacher teaching
one of their kids, and it was just we're watching
that in the justaposition of that with when.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
We normally see Foenie and Cory or Phoenie and Eric
and it was just so good our show sort of.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Like you know, you take like the father knows best
model and it's Feenie knows best right, right, so even
the parents don't know everything and that's.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
So great, you know, like it was very special.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah. And then also you know Phoenie too also is
as much as he's like an omniscion character, there's also
a lot of nuance and struggle him. And like that
episode with you and and and him where he has
like the special Lady friend and oh yeah Boston or whatever,
it's like, oh, there's there's history there, there's he's not
sure about things, he's going to make decisions.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Well, even they were setting it up even in season one,
because there's another great scene where it's you keep being
up late to watch a baseball game and you have
the scene where you go to Bill kind of like
come on, give him a break, and he's like, no,
I'm not going to give it, and it's the two
adults going back and forth, and it was just those
are becoming the adult scenes are becoming my favorite part
of this the show.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Now it's true. I think it's because I'm old.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And what was it like for the two of you
working with Bill Daniels, What was your relationship with him?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
Like he scared me?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
He does.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
He roars like a lion, but Jenna is a lamb,
you know, kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But yeah, I enjoyed working with him.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Oh, I love working I work with him before.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
I had done a couple of episodes saying elsewhere. Actually
the thing that I came off to LA I did
a TV movie where I first met him.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Right, I don't think I knew for Murder really firstal
for Murder.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
The whole cast of that TV movie was spectacular. We're
find that Robert Preston in Redgrave, Oh Jesus, Yeah, and
Bill and Jeff Goldbloom and his whole gang. But yeah, anyway,
I so I loved that Bill was there, I tell
you the truth. And you know, I've we became friends
over the whole course of it, and you know, it
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was it was a great relationship. And he was pretty
scared after the first show. I had never done and
I had never done it. The fact is that neither
one of us had ever done a sitcom. I had
never done one before. I didn't understand it, and I
learned really quick because we had good people around us.
But yeah, I thought Bill was just excellent. He loved
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you guys. I know that still does.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
We loved him too. I mean I really admired him
so much when he was on Broadway, for God's sake,
so you know, so I just think he was he
was a really dignified being, even though he was grumpy.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
This might be a weird question, but did you guys
know he had been a child actor?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Okay, so no, not before he had read his book,
all right, okay, and I see him doing that to
this day, right, I see this little boy that's doing
the song and dance that I think he was as
you know, as young as.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Five, I know, yeah, ive or six years old.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
That's just in him.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, he's been performing for over ninety years.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
It's in him to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I still can't believe. I feel much better somehow that
the adults also weren't being clued into like massive changes.
It's just really as being an actor.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I thought they were as Bill or Bill, and I
also didn't know anything. Yeah, I feel like that's happened
a lot actually, where what we think of as just
our childish perspective is actually just being an actor or
just not just you know, you just don't know stuff.
It's just work. And half the time, you know, you
don't have an adult you know, you don't have a
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full perspective, even if you're an adult, because you're just yeah,
you don't know, or you're just showing up. You do
your scene, you walk away. It's it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
It's a creative process where you don't know it. It
is spontaneous, right, that's the point. That's what's wonderful about it.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Everybody brings their part and they commit to it wholeheartedly.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
And yeah, and you know our audience that sees the
shows who haven't been you know, lucky enough to be
in a live performance, right, you know, don't see all
the changes we went through and the mistakes and the surprises,
and you know, it's it's it's an interesting, interesting process.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Did you guys ever have like adults only boy meets
world cast parties? Like did you did? Did you guys
ever like hey, Friday night, come on over? But we
weren't invited? No, no, I.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Was at all those Sorry, guys, those are the best.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
We would have dinners.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, we would have dinners.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Sometimes we didn't invite you for dinner.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's why. That's what I was. That's what I was
hoping to hear. But was it just like you two
and your significant others or was it all of the adults,
Like did you also have was Tony ever there?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Bill and Bonnie and you and Claire and and you
and Johnny at our house?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well we all lived.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah, it's pretty close to each other.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Have friends or whatever many friends you met. And then
of course we had parties at your house, wild parties.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Out in the hills.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Wow, we really can't go in.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
What about the writers? Did you guys ever intermingle with
the writers or hang out with any of the producers
or Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Sometimes, but not so much because they were very busy writing.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
They were there, you know, weeks before and then until two.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Or three o'clock in the morning. Sometimes you get the script,
you know, you get it the next morning and you know.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
That's something delivered it to your house at four thirty
in the morning kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, I know, Betsy wants to tell me more about
these parties. She was gonna say it was No, I wasn't. Yeah,
it was what Betsy was the best.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
It was fun. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well, I love to entertain, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
And it was fun. I was just thinking my birthday.
But there was a couple of times where I think
you guys all came and we cooked and on the
grill and so on. But I can't remember it was
my birthday or not.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But so, did you guys do like a pot lock?
Did somebody cook?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
I want to know you started talking about food, so, Daniels.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I want to imagine that was whoever's hosting usually does
the grill okay, okay, okay, and then everybody else brings
salads or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Who was in charge of the charcuterie plate?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
You had your own differently than we did.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well, you know what was.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Really special about it, because we're all actors, is that
you don't get that chance. I mean, I actually it's
very emotional for me because in a certain way, because
you know, we go from job to job usually even
if you do one show, two shows, twelve shows, but
to do for those years and to be with the
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same group of people, yeah, it's so special to actors. Yeah,
and obviously writers and producers and directors too, But I mean,
I don't know, I've always felt that way.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeaheah.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
To have this group of people even sitting here twenty
whatever years later with you guys, yeah, is quite unusual
and special, and I think we always we all were
grateful for.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That, knowing who we were as kids and then knowing
us now as adults. Are there any do you feel
like there's any surprises or are we as adults the
(22:05):
people you would have imagined we would have grown up
to be.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Oh, I I'm so happy that I like you all.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm so because we did.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
We did go.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Through some growing stages.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Can I say, you know?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I mean my kids are the same age as you are,
and so I had been there, done that. It was like, Okay,
this is my pretend kids, but they're not pretend. They're
and I love them. Oh, they're going through that stage
now and they don't like me, And that was you know.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
They never went through don't like Betsy stage. I don't like.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
I didn't feel like you didn't like me. It wasn't
just It wasn't that. It was just that sometimes I
wasn't given enough to do to be able to get
to play more with you. I wish I could have
played more when we did play, I really enjoyed that. Yeah,
but I'm terribly impressed with how you guys turned out.
I really am.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We just covered the B and B episode where Ben
and I take over, and it's so funny because I
remember we sing a song by the light of the
Silvery Moon, and I just remember you sitting around singing
with it. And then, of course I watched the episode
You're not but you were there, like doing all the music,
all stuff with us and singing. I remember it so vividly.
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I was like, oh, but Betsy wasn't even in that
scene for you.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I thought I was.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You helped us. I remember it was so fun Okay.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
You guys, I have to say, I'm not surprised. I mean,
I'm I'm thrilled where you are now and how grown
as adults and parents and and everything else. But you know,
you were there. You're always great, You're always were professional.
You had people around because frankly, the work is too
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hard and as we know, when you know you don't
have time to mess around, people don't stay around long.
So no, I'm very fortunate. We're both very fortunate, as
as I think we all are. Yes, we are sitting
here like we now, as I say it's it's very
special and very unique.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, we love you both so much. We want to
play a quick little game of trivia to the.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Death, so this will be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This is a little Boy meets World Matthew's Family Room Trivia,
brought to you by the fully electric Hyundai Ionic five.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The Family Room.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, these questions were written without us, so I I
truthfully have no idea. Really, I don't know what the
answers are.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's going to be.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Get has the answers?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, good, Okay, So let's just find out how much
we know about this place. We're going to be sleeping
in tonight.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
So took place in this house?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think I'm gonna start with this One's pretty easy? Ready?
Who was the guest star in the Grandma was a
Rolling Stone episode where Will got his first huge laugh
from the show. Grandma was a rolling Stone?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Do we get to say, how can we make it
a little easier?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Like?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Who played your mom?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Your mom? Big episode for Betsy?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I know you said that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm sorry, Well, she was a golden girl.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh fairness, you got it after we said golden girl
named Rue mcclan.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
You had after that. It's not it's not you're not.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The answer is, actually Carrie Russell is who will got
the big kiss?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
That's not These are questions Stone also carry Russell, Carrie
Russell was that's.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
The episode where you got Yes, that's where that's where
that's Rat's you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Grandma was a rolling stone. That episode was the episode
Carrie Russell's also in that one.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yes, but who does not remember?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
There's a bigger name Carrie Russe.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
It depends on how old you are exactly, if you're
eighty five or ninety, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Didn't you kiss Carrie Russell?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I did? I remember?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I remember?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
This is really a complicated game, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, okay, oh this is a hard one.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, if a train leaves Philadelphia going five?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
What is the name of the movie Corey and Shawner
watching when mister Foene is babysitting, then that we have
to know. I know it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I think I might know it.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Uh Exploding your Head number five, Stumpy's Revenge something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Stumpy's Revenge is the second part of the title. I
don't know what the first part is.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Your head's exploding or exploding your head?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
You wouldn't have gotten that one.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, it's not for them, You're really really close. The
answer is I'm blowing up your head part six.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Because there's also another horror film that your.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Screen and we get he was in.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, he played something.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yes, Yeah, Okay, here's an here's a good one for you. Okay,
what does Alan first get Amy for their anniversary? In
the season two episode Serah No So Serao is the
episode where Danny McNulty comes to the house. And I
remember that because he talked about it as being one
of his favorite episodes and he got to work with
you and he felt very close to you, Betsy, and
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then you invited him to his to your house for Thanksgiving.
Him and his mom.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Did what are we supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
So?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What does Alan?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Do? You know?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
What Alan first got Amy for their anniversary in that episode?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Garbage disposal, idea trash.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Believe that that's so? Then does what does? He goes
out and gets her something else?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah? You get the double right.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I don't remember any of these.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
This is a good one.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
When guest star Room McClanahan entered, I thought that was Grandma,
So I was That was when guest star room. McLanahan
enters the house. How many seconds does the audience clap for?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
To guess?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You think it's six? It was a long time, but
six is a long time. Four you're gonna go with four?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Four seconds?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I would say fifteen. I would say thirty.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Thirty, and you say fifteen eight. I'm gonna go with six.
The answer is thirteen seconds. But anyway, I can't go
over that. Will Wins.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Nice, Okay, these are hard.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
This is like obscure Boy meets t.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Well, you guys are cheating because you're watching the episodes and.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We have watching the episode. You can watch your old
please you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Do you mean to tell me you don't listen to
every episode of our podcast?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
We haven't. We haven't kept up all right, you're.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Home now, though there's a couple of them. I really
want to say, Now.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Do you get this on the radio? You can? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Okay, well I'll get a radio broken.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay. Our final question, what is in the sandwich? Morgan
makes for Alan and I think I know this?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How do you?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Because it's well, I'll tell you why, because it's something
I like to do and I remember then when.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Shopping George George shopping Sandwich Sandwich shopping diamond photo Sandwich.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yes I got it, I got it.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yes, Yes, I knew it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Sandwich air one.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
If you're looking, it's a special four thousand.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Sandwich.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Okay, So what is in the sandwich? Morgan makes for Alan.
I'm gonna say it's potato chips.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And so I was actually, rusty, is putting potatoes and
chips in a sandwich something you did when we watched it,
And it's a thing you guys are doing together. And
I thought someone that I think I do that on
(31:21):
Hamburgers an get that and the salt? I know, And
so I saw because I do it now. And when
we watched the episode, I thought, I wonder if that's
did I learn it from A Boy Meets World?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
A lot of wonderful?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Is that the right answer? It was a wonderbread cheese
was and lucky charms sandwich. Morgan, do you guys have
uh an episode at all that sticks out for you
from the series that feels like something you guys really
(31:58):
remember loving doing, Like whether it's a particular scene or
something you were given as a character that you were
like this. This feels really good. I'm happy I get
to do this. Do you have a memory of one Well, I.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Have a couple, but one of them I think I've
already told you, is that I play the Russian spy
and Corey is having a bad dream and he's in
the jail, and I could come up to him and
we're all dressed up like in the forties.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You'll have the papers. Oh yeah, we actually as as
much as all the flowers.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
We were confused by that episode because your characters speaking
English with a Russian accent. He's supposed to be a
Russian spy. Why are you talking to him?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Because it's a dream.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
That's always the audience to understand what I'm saying, That's
what it is. But I felt like I was more titia.
You know, Yes, though you have the paper, then you can.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Speak with the perfect American accent. Otherwise, of course you
still have the papers.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, that doesn't work. What about you, Rusty?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I don't know. All I remember when I loved was
when we jumped out of the airplane. I mean, there's
so many moments, you know that they were so wondering.
But I do remember that when I flash on that
The excitement of.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
It was really great.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I remember those runters for that episode because that scene
was so funny and you guys were screaming at each other.
Why don't we spend time together?
Speaker 6 (33:33):
And it was and it was It was a time
that as an actor, you just go full throttle. I
just go through you knows nothing subtle hair.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
It was fun to do it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We have really so enjoyed reconnecting with you through the
podcast and through the rewatch. I know you guys aren't
there with us when we rewatched, but your performances and
your personalities and all of our memories come flooding back.
And really rediscovering you and learning about you as actors
and as those characters has been truly a massive highlight
(34:09):
of doing this podcast. So we just want to thank
you both and not miss another opportunity to tell you
face to face you are freaking glorious. We just have
learned so much from you.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Oh we think you're glorious too.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Yeah, it's our privilege and really we're so proud of you.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Thanks, thank you for Keith. Thanks dinner, Oh my gosh,
anytime let's eat data chips. And this has all been
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Speaker 3 (35:01):
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Speaker 4 (35:05):
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Come on over some merch.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
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Speaker 6 (35:11):
Of at night.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
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Speaker 4 (35:13):
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Speaker 3 (35:19):
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We couldn't be more excited to be taping a very
special episode of Pod Meets World from a very special location,
brought to you by the fully electric Hyundai Ionic five.
We are at the actual Boy Meets World home. Yes,
we are inside the Matthew It is the house you
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saw as the exterior in almost every episode through season four.
We're actually going to be sleeping here tonight, if you
can believe it. D Writer, how did we agree to this?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
This is I think we found out somebody we talked
about doing something with this house because we're actually right
across the street from one of the studios that we
shot at, correct, so we always knew where this house was,
which was just the house for the exterior shots which
they kept coming back every episode, but we never actually.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
First time.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So I know that that can be confusing to some people,
even people that have worked in the industry for years
that but no, we actually have never been here and
the interior looks nothing like much like we've never been
to Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
And the problem I'm starting to realize is when writer,
either you or whoever says any idea, Danielle then googles
it and I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Sure this was a will idea, but then again, who knows.
It was like, let's let's why do we found out.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That it was actually available.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Whoever bought this house most recently knew that it was
the Boy Meets World exterior and decided to rent it out.
And so we we started hearing from our dear listeners
it was probably Melissa. Yeah, Melissa reached out and said,
guess what, I'm staying at the Boy Meets World house.
And we were like, wait a minute, you can do that,
and you know, producer mind Jensen Karp was like, let's
(02:12):
get you guys inside the Boy Meets World House. So anyway,
it's going to be very fun. We are going to
be taping a bunch of fun episodes and content during
our next twenty four hours, but first.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Twenty four we've decided on the full time.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Hours, just checking you decided on the full twenty four.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But now that you guys know that, it is time
to sit down with two true TV legends right here
inside the house they helped make iconic. We have spoken
with them both separately for our pod, but now with
the chance to have them here together, we wanted to
not only learn more about their relationship and experiences on set,
(02:52):
but also give them the flowers they so obviously deserve
thirty years later during our rewatch. So now as a duo,
we are lucky to be sitting with Alan and Amy
Matthews in the flesh, William, Rusty Russ, and Betsy Randall.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, yes, those legends.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Get here.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Let me know.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You're here.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You're here already.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
We didn't either when we were watching this until we
started to get into seasons three and four, and now
we're like, oh my god, we were.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Both so good on the show, and we missed it
because we were your kids and so self involved. Didn't
realize how great you were.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We've talked about it. I think you just assumed everybody
was as good as them, And then you get into
as you grow up and you work with other actors,
you realize how lucky we were to have you guys
just made certainly.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Were yeah, well, and we're lucky that you're still in
our lives. We all kind of reunited recently, we all
went to nineties con. How was that for you? Was
that the first time you had seen each other in
quite a while.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Yeah, I think so yeah, yeah, it was a gas.
It was a total gas.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
That was your first convention ever, wasn't it, Rusty?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, it's a it's a fun world, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Well it's so special and gosh, all the guys on
gals that came out, it was just.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Like so much love.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, big love fest at the conventions.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So before the convention, do you do either of you
remember the last time you had seen each other face
to face?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, I mean we're talking years.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, well, I mean we all did.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
We did Girl Meets World together for the last episode, right.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Would that have been two thousands seventeen? Yeah, okay, so
seven years. How do you guys feel seeing the Boy
Meets World House in the flesh today? Does it? Is
it what you remembered seeing on TV?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
No, I don't remember seeing it. You really.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
The outside looks like I never saw the outside.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Did you ever watch Did you watch the show? Rusty?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You should, it's good. We have a podcast about it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And you came up the front right the driveway and
then sometimes the.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Street, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Rider, and I laughed and felt very much like every
person who's ever come to visit a set and as
we were standing outside, I was sitting there and just
kind of staring at it, and writer goes, it looks
smaller in person, And it is exactly the way you
feel when everyone who's ever come to a set goes, oh,
the set looks so much bigger on TV.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, we look bigger too.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Everyone every time we meet me like you're shorter than
I thought. It's like, hey, it's everyone thinks we're hugely tall.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Do you guys remember, like we we've talked a lot
about as kids, things that we remember from the Boy
Meets World set, like the candy drawer in the kitchen
and the gum wall. Do you remember the disgusting the wall?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Oh yeah, but up up the stairs before we walk on,
where we smashing their gun to.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The kitchen, the kitchen, down the kitchen stairs. I know
you started the Okay, now I'm making that up. Are
there any moments or spots on any of the sets
we worked on over the seven years that you guys
felt more at home that were like your little spots
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on the set you like to hang out.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I'm afraid it was the sink.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Oh really, yes?
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Oh yeah, I was behind the counter.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Doing business constantly mom stuff disciplining you.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I don't know, I don't really, I mean, I love you, frankly,
I loved so much offset Yeah you know, I mean
because you guys was you know your kids?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I still remember, like I said, one of my strongest memories.
It was a Halloween and I remember you guys coming
from school. This was on Disney Lot and walking from
the school, which is about two hundred yards from the stage,
and you all had your little costumes on, and I
remember watching you guys just skipping over to.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Go to work.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I thought, well, I'm gonna remember this, and I had.
It's really one of my fondest memories.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So now that we're in season four, the Wilderness Store
is like a big It gets a big introduction and
then it's only been used a couple of times, but
it's a great set. Do you remember the Wilderness Store?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Do you have?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
I remember it very well.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
All I can remember is the one arm bear train.
We haven't gotten there yet. But do you remember discussions
about like the whole because it's actually Amy Buys the which.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Is one of my favorite episode.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's a great episode. Do you guys remember did Michael
ever talk to you about, like, oh, we're going to
introduce this whole new aspect of the show, or do
you have any No, do.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
You remember a new aspect?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
No, talk to you about any of it. You know,
I don't think so. The bear there is eventually a bear. Yeah,
but we're not getting there now. You guys by the Wilderness,
the Matthews by the Wilderness Store, and Alan goes from
being a grosser to the Wilderness Store owner and works there,
and it becomes mostly a place for the three of you,
(08:34):
mostly Rusty and and Will. And then they introduced a
love interest for Will free episode three episodes.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Remember do you remember Lonnie, the blonde actress who worked
at the store with us.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
She wore a crop top flannel.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
She was but not It was weird.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I have a writer asking about if they kind of
let you in on big changes in the show when
it came to buying the Wilderness Store and stuff like that.
Were there any changes you were letting on? Did you
know they were like, for instance, changing little sisters.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Or Tony Quinn wasn't coming back.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Were you privy to any of that kind of stuff
because we didn't know any of that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
No, I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
No, no, no, it was not just a kid just
being an actor, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I mean it was their show. I mean, you know, no,
I don't, I don't remember. We would talk about stuff
and make jokes and you know, but the writers were
you know, is their show, Michael's show and all that
great bunch of writers. Yea, And they're they're working there,
you know, six months.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Before we show up.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah, they're not calling me up saying what do you
think of this?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Did you ever go to them with any of your
own desires to like do certain things or.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
No, I would.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I was.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
They were great to be open. I say, you know,
this doesn't feel comfortable or what about this? Or you
know it's really I feel you know, this is a
little weird, or why is it like this? And a
lot of times it was just because I didn't see
it clearly, because as I said, they've been living with
the script or an idea for six months, so they've
usually been through all the things. I'm just seeing it.
(10:12):
And I had to give them faith. You know, as
an actor, you got to have a lot of faith.
But they have a vision that I'm not seeing right
at the moment.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Yeah, And it's not like we can improvise. You know,
that's not professional to do that, right, These guys work
hard to come up with these words, so we feel
the challenge to try and make it work.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, I know, Betsy, you were saying, maybe you don't
really remember it very well. But the episode where you
end up buying the Wilderness Store is so wonderful.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Great episode.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's such a great relationship story too. It's it starts
off with you know, Alan saying I'm not doing this anymore.
I don't want to be a grosser. I need a change.
And then Eric and Alan go to this you know
convention where they learn about new jobs, and Alan decides,
you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to
(11:05):
open a convenience store. And I'm going to do that
because I already know being a grosser. And you say
to him, I'm not going to support this, and he
gets a little upset with you, like why can't you
just support me? And you have this beautiful scene in
the backyard where you tell him I'm not going to
support you because I'm not going to support you continuing
to crush your dream. You need, I expect you want
(11:27):
more for yourself. And if you, when you find that thing,
I will support it, but this is the one I can't.
And there's this whole moment too where you say, like,
one of these days I'm going to make a decision
and it's going to affect this fan.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well, quit, he quits. That's why latch of the episode
is that he quits and he comes home says I quit,
and you're like, you can't just do that?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, and you say, I'm basically I'm going to get
you back, and I don't know how when, I don't
know when, but one of these days I'm going to
make a decision that changes the course of this family
and you're not going to know about it. And in
the end it resolves with you buying the Wilderness Store.
And what was extremes come true?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
What was the first possibility that he turned down?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Gone?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Nope, pooy gone?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That was the first thing?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Is a guy trying to sell us on Pooperrie, which
gets rid of all the dog smells, which then Danielle
informed us, became an actual thing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes, you guys could have been multi mis exactly if
we just listened to our gut. But so when you
guys would get those episodes and still in season three
and season four, there are those occasional episodes where you
guys are just handed a beautiful storyline and you execute
it so well. And now as adults, we are recognizing
just how nuanced and incredible you are. When you would
(12:44):
get those episodes and you'd read those scripts, would you
think like, yes, more of this. How did you feel
when you'd see you were going to get to really
shine in an episode?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, more of this, more of this.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
I was so relieved to have something to talk about,
to write that meant something, and.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
So yeah, well, I always give the writers kudos because
they always wrote adults as opposed to merely jokes, you know,
and let us hopefully be you know, some semblance of
real life, as you know, I found out going to
these conventions and all, you know, for the last twenty
(13:27):
years that you know, people you know kind of looked
at us as parents. That's what's the beauty is the writing,
very much, you know, because it all stems from the writing.
Without the writers, you got nothing.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
And it's rare to see a show that the adults
are written as well as the kids, and vice versa.
A lot of times it's a kids show and the
adults are wacky and they're always the kids are always
pulling the wool over their eyes or that kind of thing,
or it's vice versa where the adults are written really
well and the kids or one note. But our show
really does have that writing where the adults were great.
I mean, there was time we just saw an episode
(13:59):
where where it was Ben getting Corey getting his license,
and you know, Alan wakes up in the morning and
just assumes that Corey knows how important it is to him,
so he's gonna spend his whole day with his dad
getting his license. When so Alan doesn't even say to Corey, hey,
we're gonna do this, He just assumes is gonna happen. Well,
Corey of course wants to go be with his friends.
(14:19):
So it's it's really your story, Rusty, about kind of
dealing with your kids growing up. And there's this great
scene where you get a Phoenie scene where it's like
it's Bill coming to teach Alan, like the teacher teaching
one of their kids, and it was just we're watching
that in the justaposition of that with when.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
We normally see Foenie and Cory or Phoenie and Eric
and it was just so good our show sort of.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Like you know, you take like the father knows best
model and it's Feenie knows best right, right, so even
the parents don't know everything and that's.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
So great, you know, like it was very special.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah. And then also you know Phoenie too also is
as much as he's like an omniscion character, there's also
a lot of nuance and struggle him. And like that
episode with you and and and him where he has
like the special Lady friend and oh yeah Boston or whatever,
it's like, oh, there's there's history there, there's he's not
sure about things, he's going to make decisions.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Well, even they were setting it up even in season one,
because there's another great scene where it's you keep being
up late to watch a baseball game and you have
the scene where you go to Bill kind of like
come on, give him a break, and he's like, no,
I'm not going to give it, and it's the two
adults going back and forth, and it was just those
are becoming the adult scenes are becoming my favorite part
of this the show.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Now it's true. I think it's because I'm old.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And what was it like for the two of you
working with Bill Daniels, What was your relationship with him?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
Like he scared me?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
He does.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
He roars like a lion, but Jenna is a lamb,
you know, kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But yeah, I enjoyed working with him.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Oh, I love working I work with him before.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
I had done a couple of episodes saying elsewhere. Actually
the thing that I came off to LA I did
a TV movie where I first met him.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Right, I don't think I knew for Murder really firstal
for Murder.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
The whole cast of that TV movie was spectacular. We're
find that Robert Preston in Redgrave, Oh Jesus, Yeah, and
Bill and Jeff Goldbloom and his whole gang. But yeah, anyway,
I so I loved that Bill was there, I tell
you the truth. And you know, I've we became friends
over the whole course of it, and you know, it
(16:30):
was it was a great relationship. And he was pretty
scared after the first show. I had never done and
I had never done it. The fact is that neither
one of us had ever done a sitcom. I had
never done one before. I didn't understand it, and I
learned really quick because we had good people around us.
But yeah, I thought Bill was just excellent. He loved
(16:52):
you guys. I know that still does.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
We loved him too. I mean I really admired him
so much when he was on Broadway, for God's sake,
so you know, so I just think he was he
was a really dignified being, even though he was grumpy.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
This might be a weird question, but did you guys
know he had been a child actor?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Okay, so no, not before he had read his book,
all right, okay, and I see him doing that to
this day, right, I see this little boy that's doing
the song and dance that I think he was as
you know, as young as.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Five, I know, yeah, ive or six years old.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
That's just in him.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, he's been performing for over ninety years.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
It's in him to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I still can't believe. I feel much better somehow that
the adults also weren't being clued into like massive changes.
It's just really as being an actor.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I thought they were as Bill or Bill, and I
also didn't know anything. Yeah, I feel like that's happened
a lot actually, where what we think of as just
our childish perspective is actually just being an actor or
just not just you know, you just don't know stuff.
It's just work. And half the time, you know, you
don't have an adult you know, you don't have a
(18:08):
full perspective, even if you're an adult, because you're just yeah,
you don't know, or you're just showing up. You do
your scene, you walk away. It's it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
It's a creative process where you don't know it. It
is spontaneous, right, that's the point. That's what's wonderful about it.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Everybody brings their part and they commit to it wholeheartedly.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
And yeah, and you know our audience that sees the
shows who haven't been you know, lucky enough to be
in a live performance, right, you know, don't see all
the changes we went through and the mistakes and the surprises,
and you know, it's it's it's an interesting, interesting process.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Did you guys ever have like adults only boy meets
world cast parties? Like did you did? Did you guys
ever like hey, Friday night, come on over? But we
weren't invited? No, no, I.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Was at all those Sorry, guys, those are the best.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
We would have dinners.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, we would have dinners.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Sometimes we didn't invite you for dinner.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's why. That's what I was. That's what I was
hoping to hear. But was it just like you two
and your significant others or was it all of the adults,
Like did you also have was Tony ever there?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Bill and Bonnie and you and Claire and and you
and Johnny at our house?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well we all lived.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah, it's pretty close to each other.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Have friends or whatever many friends you met. And then
of course we had parties at your house, wild parties.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Out in the hills.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Wow, we really can't go in.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
What about the writers? Did you guys ever intermingle with
the writers or hang out with any of the producers
or Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Sometimes, but not so much because they were very busy writing.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
They were there, you know, weeks before and then until two.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Or three o'clock in the morning. Sometimes you get the script,
you know, you get it the next morning and you know.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
That's something delivered it to your house at four thirty
in the morning kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, I know, Betsy wants to tell me more about
these parties. She was gonna say it was No, I wasn't. Yeah,
it was what Betsy was the best.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
It was fun. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well, I love to entertain, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
And it was fun. I was just thinking my birthday.
But there was a couple of times where I think
you guys all came and we cooked and on the
grill and so on. But I can't remember it was
my birthday or not.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But so, did you guys do like a pot lock?
Did somebody cook?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
I want to know you started talking about food, so, Daniels.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I want to imagine that was whoever's hosting usually does
the grill okay, okay, okay, and then everybody else brings
salads or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Who was in charge of the charcuterie plate?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
You had your own differently than we did.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well, you know what was.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Really special about it, because we're all actors, is that
you don't get that chance. I mean, I actually it's
very emotional for me because in a certain way, because
you know, we go from job to job usually even
if you do one show, two shows, twelve shows, but
to do for those years and to be with the
(21:17):
same group of people, yeah, it's so special to actors. Yeah,
and obviously writers and producers and directors too, But I mean,
I don't know, I've always felt that way.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeaheah.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
To have this group of people even sitting here twenty
whatever years later with you guys, yeah, is quite unusual
and special, and I think we always we all were
grateful for.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That, knowing who we were as kids and then knowing
us now as adults. Are there any do you feel
like there's any surprises or are we as adults the
(22:05):
people you would have imagined we would have grown up
to be.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Oh, I I'm so happy that I like you all.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm so because we did.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
We did go.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Through some growing stages.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Can I say, you know?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I mean my kids are the same age as you are,
and so I had been there, done that. It was like, Okay,
this is my pretend kids, but they're not pretend. They're
and I love them. Oh, they're going through that stage
now and they don't like me, And that was you know.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
They never went through don't like Betsy stage. I don't like.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
I didn't feel like you didn't like me. It wasn't
just It wasn't that. It was just that sometimes I
wasn't given enough to do to be able to get
to play more with you. I wish I could have
played more when we did play, I really enjoyed that. Yeah,
but I'm terribly impressed with how you guys turned out.
I really am.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We just covered the B and B episode where Ben
and I take over, and it's so funny because I
remember we sing a song by the light of the
Silvery Moon, and I just remember you sitting around singing
with it. And then, of course I watched the episode
You're not but you were there, like doing all the music,
all stuff with us and singing. I remember it so vividly.
(23:31):
I was like, oh, but Betsy wasn't even in that
scene for you.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I thought I was.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You helped us. I remember it was so fun Okay.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
You guys, I have to say, I'm not surprised. I mean,
I'm I'm thrilled where you are now and how grown
as adults and parents and and everything else. But you know,
you were there. You're always great, You're always were professional.
You had people around because frankly, the work is too
(24:00):
hard and as we know, when you know you don't
have time to mess around, people don't stay around long.
So no, I'm very fortunate. We're both very fortunate, as
as I think we all are. Yes, we are sitting
here like we now, as I say it's it's very
special and very unique.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, we love you both so much. We want to
play a quick little game of trivia to the.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Death, so this will be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This is a little Boy meets World Matthew's Family Room Trivia,
brought to you by the fully electric Hyundai Ionic five.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The Family Room.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, these questions were written without us, so I I
truthfully have no idea. Really, I don't know what the
answers are.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's going to be.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Get has the answers?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, good, Okay, So let's just find out how much
we know about this place. We're going to be sleeping
in tonight.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
So took place in this house?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think I'm gonna start with this One's pretty easy? Ready?
Who was the guest star in the Grandma was a
Rolling Stone episode where Will got his first huge laugh
from the show. Grandma was a rolling Stone?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Do we get to say, how can we make it
a little easier?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Like?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Who played your mom?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Your mom? Big episode for Betsy?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I know you said that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm sorry, Well, she was a golden girl.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh fairness, you got it after we said golden girl
named Rue mcclan.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
You had after that. It's not it's not you're not.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The answer is, actually Carrie Russell is who will got
the big kiss?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
That's not These are questions Stone also carry Russell, Carrie
Russell was that's.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
The episode where you got Yes, that's where that's where
that's Rat's you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Grandma was a rolling stone. That episode was the episode
Carrie Russell's also in that one.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yes, but who does not remember?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
There's a bigger name Carrie Russe.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
It depends on how old you are exactly, if you're
eighty five or ninety, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Didn't you kiss Carrie Russell?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I did? I remember?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I remember?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
This is really a complicated game, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, okay, oh this is a hard one.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, if a train leaves Philadelphia going five?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
What is the name of the movie Corey and Shawner
watching when mister Foene is babysitting, then that we have
to know. I know it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I think I might know it.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Uh Exploding your Head number five, Stumpy's Revenge something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Stumpy's Revenge is the second part of the title. I
don't know what the first part is.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Your head's exploding or exploding your head?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
You wouldn't have gotten that one.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, it's not for them, You're really really close. The
answer is I'm blowing up your head part six.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Because there's also another horror film that your.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Screen and we get he was in.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, he played something.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yes, Yeah, Okay, here's an here's a good one for you. Okay,
what does Alan first get Amy for their anniversary? In
the season two episode Serah No So Serao is the
episode where Danny McNulty comes to the house. And I
remember that because he talked about it as being one
of his favorite episodes and he got to work with
you and he felt very close to you, Betsy, and
(27:55):
then you invited him to his to your house for Thanksgiving.
Him and his mom.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Did what are we supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
So?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What does Alan?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Do? You know?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
What Alan first got Amy for their anniversary in that episode?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Garbage disposal, idea trash.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Believe that that's so? Then does what does? He goes
out and gets her something else?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah? You get the double right.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I don't remember any of these.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
This is a good one.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
When guest star Room McClanahan entered, I thought that was Grandma,
So I was That was when guest star room. McLanahan
enters the house. How many seconds does the audience clap for?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
To guess?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You think it's six? It was a long time, but
six is a long time. Four you're gonna go with four?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Four seconds?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I would say fifteen. I would say thirty.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Thirty, and you say fifteen eight. I'm gonna go with six.
The answer is thirteen seconds. But anyway, I can't go
over that. Will Wins.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Nice, Okay, these are hard.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
This is like obscure Boy meets t.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Well, you guys are cheating because you're watching the episodes and.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We have watching the episode. You can watch your old
please you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Do you mean to tell me you don't listen to
every episode of our podcast?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
We haven't. We haven't kept up all right, you're.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Home now, though there's a couple of them. I really
want to say, Now.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Do you get this on the radio? You can? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Okay, well I'll get a radio broken.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay. Our final question, what is in the sandwich? Morgan
makes for Alan and I think I know this?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How do you?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Because it's well, I'll tell you why, because it's something
I like to do and I remember then when.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Shopping George George shopping Sandwich Sandwich shopping diamond photo Sandwich.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yes I got it, I got it.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yes, Yes, I knew it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Sandwich air one.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
If you're looking, it's a special four thousand.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Sandwich.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Okay, So what is in the sandwich? Morgan makes for Alan.
I'm gonna say it's potato chips.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And so I was actually, rusty, is putting potatoes and
chips in a sandwich something you did when we watched it,
And it's a thing you guys are doing together. And
I thought someone that I think I do that on
(31:21):
Hamburgers an get that and the salt? I know, And
so I saw because I do it now. And when
we watched the episode, I thought, I wonder if that's
did I learn it from A Boy Meets World?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
A lot of wonderful?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Is that the right answer? It was a wonderbread cheese
was and lucky charms sandwich. Morgan, do you guys have
uh an episode at all that sticks out for you
from the series that feels like something you guys really
(31:58):
remember loving doing, Like whether it's a particular scene or
something you were given as a character that you were
like this. This feels really good. I'm happy I get
to do this. Do you have a memory of one Well, I.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Have a couple, but one of them I think I've
already told you, is that I play the Russian spy
and Corey is having a bad dream and he's in
the jail, and I could come up to him and
we're all dressed up like in the forties.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You'll have the papers. Oh yeah, we actually as as
much as all the flowers.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
We were confused by that episode because your characters speaking
English with a Russian accent. He's supposed to be a
Russian spy. Why are you talking to him?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Because it's a dream.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
That's always the audience to understand what I'm saying, That's
what it is. But I felt like I was more titia.
You know, Yes, though you have the paper, then you can.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Speak with the perfect American accent. Otherwise, of course you
still have the papers.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, that doesn't work. What about you, Rusty?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I don't know. All I remember when I loved was
when we jumped out of the airplane. I mean, there's
so many moments, you know that they were so wondering.
But I do remember that when I flash on that
The excitement of.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
It was really great.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I remember those runters for that episode because that scene
was so funny and you guys were screaming at each other.
Why don't we spend time together?
Speaker 6 (33:33):
And it was and it was It was a time
that as an actor, you just go full throttle. I
just go through you knows nothing subtle hair.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
It was fun to do it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We have really so enjoyed reconnecting with you through the
podcast and through the rewatch. I know you guys aren't
there with us when we rewatched, but your performances and
your personalities and all of our memories come flooding back.
And really rediscovering you and learning about you as actors
and as those characters has been truly a massive highlight
(34:09):
of doing this podcast. So we just want to thank
you both and not miss another opportunity to tell you
face to face you are freaking glorious. We just have
learned so much from you.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Oh we think you're glorious too.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Yeah, it's our privilege and really we're so proud of you.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Thanks, thank you for Keith. Thanks dinner, Oh my gosh,
anytime let's eat data chips. And this has all been
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(34:45):
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Speaker 6 (35:11):
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Speaker 3 (35:12):
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Speaker 4 (35:13):
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Speaker 3 (35:19):
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